Good video James. Looks like my pressie will turn up too late 🤦♀️ also really goodnto see you collecting the scrapings etc off the roof to put in the rubbish, not like the twozzok across from me in Wolves the other week that swept the lot into the canal 😡
Re the Roof, looks like you haven't had the Centre Line Eyelet installed as of yet, that's why your Hand Rail was bent they would have used that for Centre line beforehand.😎😉👍👌
Bent handrail was probably a rope tied to a fender being caught on the side or a rope attached to the bank and the boat moved. I would say either live with it (please dont) or cut it out and replace with fresh straight. Its stretched and I doubt it would ever be straight again. The front of your boat is an addition. The new roof section probably wasnt degreased or had a thin oxide layer on it and wasnt properly preped. Only thing you can do is what you are doing and taking it back to bare metal. Keep up the great work James, the boat is looking great.
Very picturesque shot there at the end. A bit of the sky, candlelight, light reflection in the water, fairy lights. Yup, if your aim was to create an atmosphere, James, you succeeded.☕️
If you can bear the removal of the old paint you will be rewarded with a pleasing, to the eye, smooth finish. Sanding and feathering the old paint will create unsightly layering. All professional (decent) painters start from bare metal. I remember using a wood chisel on my previous narrowboat to remove all of the old paint. It took an age but the resulting paint finish was fantastic, made the boat look almost new.
Slide hammer with a hook attachment for the roof rail. The non-adhered paint looks like it’s on the front cabin extension that looks like it’s been added to the boat at some point. Prob bad paint prep and applied in a hurry. I’d give it a good key with the sander, then degrease / panel wipe it off and spray some etch primer on (get a couple of cans from Halfords) before the red oxide. Looking really good 👍🏻👍🏻
That rail will definitely need to be heated up. Probably a two man job. Maybe Paul or some one from the yard will help you. Once hot it could do with straightening using some kind of home made lever. Something that had a long handle and an L shaped piece at 90 degrees to put some weight behind it and pull it back in to shape. Might take a few goes and it won’t be perfect but should be good enough.
Great intro and night shots James, looks great. I do however need to keep the TV remote to hand to keep altering the volume 😁 As far as the roof rail is concerned either cut out a section and have a replacement bit welded in or just leave it. It's "character" on a 50 year old boat. 😍
Use x2 off sections of sturdy wood of equal lengths, suitable to wedge themselves between the 2 roof rails (layed port to starboard), spaced just either side of the damaged section of rail. Brace the good roof rail by placing a suitable steel bar, of length longer than the distance between the x2 wooden wedges fitted above and ideally of diameter greater than the gap under the rail (to roof). This steel brace should be placed on the outside (water side) of the good rail. Use a large ratchet strap wrapped around good rail & steel brace, across roof (parallel with wood wedges) and over centre of damaged rail. Tighten ratchet strap until damaged rail is just past straight to allow for flex back after its released. Move wooden wedges (when strap not tensioned) closer together, either side of damaged rail to help focus load onto a specific point, when strap re-tensioned to get rail aligned better. As rail will have stretched when initially bent, its unlikely to recover 100% parallel /straight. Good luck
James when paint comes off easily like on your roof it’s usually due to someone giving the roof a quick coat of finish with no under coats and without degreasing. Bernie painter/Dec
You could try borrowing some ratchet straps and pull the bend out.make sure you brace the other rail with a hefty steel bar so you don't end up bending that as well.probably a good idea to get one of the lads from the yard to give you a hand
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt apparently it was a tip from a great guy on a ship! Can't remember the entire story from last night but apparently the crew were using needle hammers and the chain works much better.
To straighten the rail jam two lengths of timber between the roof rails either side of the bend then use some sort of hand winch to pull the bend out..you'll need to make sure you fix the other end of the winch to where the rail is attached to the boat so you don't bend the other rail inwards. . In fact best try to fix the winch near to the wood you have jammed in
Hi James, re the bent roof bar, heat it up mate then pull it off the opposite side with a ratchet strap, you will need to get a lot of heat into it right at the bent bit.
Don't forget to get your narrowboat centre line attachment (or 2 if you have one to starboard and one to port) sorted out? Might be easier before the roof is repainted? Your roof rail wobble looks like someone had a makeshift centre line attached to it ?
Awesome work, clever film shots James. Out of interest when do you expect to head south. I'm on my shared boat in June out of Dunchurch pools marina for a trip to Milton Keynes. It would be great to meet up.
Attempts to straighten that rail will always look wonky so cut it out have a new bit welded on internally sleeved onto the existing rail. I expect it was bent by mooring lines.
Once you bend a pipe like that (or is it solid bar?) it tends to stretch and will never go back to its original position. You could be lucky and it may go back into place using a pipe bender. You would likely have to re-align the lengths fore and aft of the kink as well. From what i know about boats, it may have had something heavy fall onto it, or a heavy rope was used improperly. Be sure the rail mounts are also in proper condition, or it may decide to break at the weld when you try to straighten the rail. Good luck!
You could use a ratchet strap to pull the rail straight it shouldn't mark the bar. You could anchor it to a welded pin on the opposite side of the boat.
Heat that bent bar up with a blow torch then twat it with a lump hammer. failing that reinforce the bar on the other side with a post or similar , then use a ratchet strap around both to pull the other one straight
Hey, great to see Sloe Patrol from the canal bank, love your twilight set up. Take care. The bent bar could be cut and a straight one put on in its place?
A long piece of rigid steel with a short chain around each end, then wrap those chains around the bar,, and a hydrolic jack on its side in the middle as a fulcrum pushing against the bar . right at the point of the bend... RE-SPECT
Cut out the length of bent rail (some tool used it as center line anchor?) and either machine shop straighten it OR better yet and cheaply replace it with a new length of pipe (welded back in).
Hi it looks like its been painted over the mill scale on the steel , need to put a sanding pad on a grinder and key it in , or use a etch primer it all needs to come of , the bars bent because its had a rope on it to pull it in , use the grinder flat guard off dont dig in
Hey james. Great video series. I myself have been renovating a dutch barge and wish I had started a series like yours. But that in itself is a ton of work. Hats off. I had a tip for you and a question. The tip is a paint system. You probably made your choice but if not this maybe of interest. Brantho korrux 3-1. German paint. Brilliant. The 3 parts refers to 1)anti rust 2)primer 3) top coat. I used it and highly like the simplicity. My question for you. I have to insulate one room and was thinkimg of spray foam like you did. Its behind my tophouse, stuurhut in dutch. The motor room seperates this room from the rest and i need extra room as baby on the way. I have been discussing spray foam with people and some are for and some against. Those that are against say that future welding work is complicated by spray foam, not being able to remove it. I wonder what considerations you had when deciding to go with spray foam? Love to hear what your thoughts are on it. As for that bent rail. If you are able to fill with water or sand. And heat it you maybe can straighten it. But maybe faster and simplier to cut out and replace with straight part. Thats if you know how to weld or have a friend who can help. All the best to you. Keep up the good work and hard work
James you’re an old romantic 🕯 At least getting off the roof paint is relatively easy compared with some you’ve done- and thank god for that (!). . ..... Heading for London will be a special day 🐍
It looks like somebody painted the roof with latex paint! Latex-based paint and oil-based paints won't stick to each other at all. Hopefully it was just someone's touchup of that one area!
you would be better off cutting that bent bar out and welding in a new peice, you could heat it and try to straighten it but it will hever look as good as a new peice. any chance of turning up your mic up a bit?
that bar "should" be able to be safely heat up with out actually having to worry about the heat continuing and damaging the interior of the boat. You will only have to heat a small part.
I might be wrong but I think that your roof needs to be chemically stripped right down to the metal. Start totally anew. Then you’ll know that your paint will stick.
Your gold windows I suspect are aluminium, anodised. I would consider living with them as they are and possibly use some yellow /gold coach lines to frame any signage / patterns on the side of the boat to bring it all together. Paint does not like adhering to aluminium. You could remove the windows frames and get them professionally re-anodized a different colour or plastic coated, else you would need to primer-etch them yourself before hand painting. I fear that with the intricate slots in the frames, your paint won't conceal all of the gold and constant use of your windows (opening & closing etc) will chip off/wear through your paint, exposing more gold, and will look worse. Why create so much work?
Looks like the bar was bent by someone tieing ropes off to it. To be honest, your easiest is to cut out that section and weld in a new piece. You'll never get the bent bit fully straight. Pipe should be cheap enough. Do the prep work yourself and keep the welder's work to the minimum.
Please be aware that when you look away from the camera like down the side of the boat we can't hear a word you're saying! Still issues on your sound which is a shame as we do want to hear you it's a good channel just a pain having to keep turning volume up and down!
You really can't point out certain spots where things will be done in the dark. Some light would have been nice, of video from within the boat where some things were pointed out. And, please work on the audio. The audio levels are so 'all over the place' that it is becomeing extremely annoying. On the plus side, I'm happy to hear the good news about the roof. Well done.
Good video James. Looks like my pressie will turn up too late 🤦♀️ also really goodnto see you collecting the scrapings etc off the roof to put in the rubbish, not like the twozzok across from me in Wolves the other week that swept the lot into the canal 😡
Glad you mentioned the windows. I had been quietly praying you'd sort them out. Well done fellah.
Your boat looks lovely with fairy lights and stove in the dark. So peaceful x
thanks Judith - it feels very peaceful and tranquil on board now
James you should use a Scabbler on the roof without the paint will never last
Re the Roof, looks like you haven't had the Centre Line Eyelet installed as of yet, that's why your Hand Rail was bent they would have used that for Centre line beforehand.😎😉👍👌
Your boat looks magical at night , love the trail of small lights on the rear and the two candles on the edge.
Great vlog at night with the lights.
The outside of the boat is really beginning to shape up. Love the lights at night
Bent handrail was probably a rope tied to a fender being caught on the side or a rope attached to the bank and the boat moved. I would say either live with it (please dont) or cut it out and replace with fresh straight. Its stretched and I doubt it would ever be straight again. The front of your boat is an addition. The new roof section probably wasnt degreased or had a thin oxide layer on it and wasnt properly preped. Only thing you can do is what you are doing and taking it back to bare metal. Keep up the great work James, the boat is looking great.
Hope and gravity (Lovely night time shot James with the lights on board and the reflections in the water.)
Cool shots, I like that you're trying creative ideas with the camera.
You are doing a wonderful job!
Very picturesque shot there at the end. A bit of the sky, candlelight, light reflection in the water, fairy lights. Yup, if your aim was to create an atmosphere, James, you succeeded.☕️
thanks - i was hoping it was going to be brighter on screen. in real life it looked lovely.
looking good keep up the work on the boat looking good
If you can bear the removal of the old paint you will be rewarded with a pleasing, to the eye, smooth finish. Sanding and feathering the old paint will create unsightly layering. All professional (decent) painters start from bare metal. I remember using a wood chisel on my previous narrowboat to remove all of the old paint. It took an age but the resulting paint finish was fantastic, made the boat look almost new.
That paint looks like it was put on without having the surface keyed first!!! See if the boat yard has a scabbler! 👍👍
That paint area with the problem of previous coating adhesion just had to go!! I like how it is working out.
Yes it had to go - thanks mate
Well done mate really starting to come together
Slide hammer with a hook attachment for the roof rail. The non-adhered paint looks like it’s on the front cabin extension that looks like it’s been added to the boat at some point. Prob bad paint prep and applied in a hurry. I’d give it a good key with the sander, then degrease / panel wipe it off and spray some etch primer on (get a couple of cans from Halfords) before the red oxide. Looking really good 👍🏻👍🏻
If you can borrow a pipe bending tool with a long handle you can gradually work the bend out. Ratchet straps might bend whatever you anchor to.
That rail will definitely need to be heated up. Probably a two man job. Maybe Paul or some one from the yard will help you. Once hot it could do with straightening using some kind of home made lever. Something that had a long handle and an L shaped piece at 90 degrees to put some weight behind it and pull it back in to shape. Might take a few goes and it won’t be perfect but should be good enough.
Looking forward to the top coat going on. Put some thinners in it otherwise it goes off real quick. I know because I did it today lol.
what top coat did you go for? gloss ? brand ?
Re handrail
Angle iron or similar fastened to outside of opposite rail. Load strap across to bent rail, tighten.
Great sound microphone working wonderfully
Great intro and night shots James, looks great. I do however need to keep the TV remote to hand to keep altering the volume 😁
As far as the roof rail is concerned either cut out a section and have a replacement bit welded in or just leave it. It's "character" on a 50 year old boat. 😍
Use x2 off sections of sturdy wood of equal lengths, suitable to wedge themselves between the 2 roof rails (layed port to starboard), spaced just either side of the damaged section of rail. Brace the good roof rail by placing a suitable steel bar, of length longer than the distance between the x2 wooden wedges fitted above and ideally of diameter greater than the gap under the rail (to roof). This steel brace should be placed on the outside (water side) of the good rail. Use a large ratchet strap wrapped around good rail & steel brace, across roof (parallel with wood wedges) and over centre of damaged rail. Tighten ratchet strap until damaged rail is just past straight to allow for flex back after its released. Move wooden wedges (when strap not tensioned) closer together, either side of damaged rail to help focus load onto a specific point, when strap re-tensioned to get rail aligned better. As rail will have stretched when initially bent, its unlikely to recover 100% parallel /straight. Good luck
James when paint comes off easily like on your roof it’s usually due to someone giving the roof a quick coat of finish with no under coats and without degreasing. Bernie painter/Dec
Sound James!
You could try borrowing some ratchet straps and pull the bend out.make sure you brace the other rail with a hefty steel bar so you don't end up bending that as well.probably a good idea to get one of the lads from the yard to give you a hand
Or use a tree along the towpath
James to do the handrail wrap an old chain around two or three times and then pull one way and the other working your way along the rail.
im trying to smooth it out - that sounds like it would rough it up
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt apparently it was a tip from a great guy on a ship! Can't remember the entire story from last night but apparently the crew were using needle hammers and the chain works much better.
never even thought to use amulti tool on paint layers. i was dreading using a sander etc.
Use a Block & Tackle to remove the bend in the rail - works a treat
Sounds about right. I bet the lads have done this before and have the proper block and tackle to pull it out, to make it look a lot better.
To straighten the rail jam two lengths of timber between the roof rails either side of the bend then use some sort of hand winch to pull the bend out..you'll need to make sure you fix the other end of the winch to where the rail is attached to the boat so you don't bend the other rail inwards. . In fact best try to fix the winch near to the wood you have jammed in
The most common reason for paint failures is improper prep work. ;-)
Hi James, re the bent roof bar, heat it up mate then pull it off the opposite side with a ratchet strap, you will need to get a lot of heat into it right at the bent bit.
Use a wider scraper to take the paint off, it will be a lot quicker when it is that loose.
Don't forget to get your narrowboat centre line attachment (or 2 if you have one to starboard and one to port) sorted out? Might be easier before the roof is repainted? Your roof rail wobble looks like someone had a makeshift centre line attached to it ?
thought about that today actually - ill try to get that done before painting
Get narrow boat hands to cut out the bent piece of tube and weld a new bit in.
Just what I was thinking. Getting that bend out _in-situ_ would be a pain in the arse.
@@sarkybugger5009 hadnt even thought about cutting out and replacing. Done.
Awesome work, clever film shots James. Out of interest when do you expect to head south. I'm on my shared boat in June out of Dunchurch pools marina for a trip to Milton Keynes. It would be great to meet up.
i reckon I'll be near MK in June. I'm aiming to leave her mid May and yeah meeting up would be great
Would it be worth chopping out the bent section and welding in a replacement straight section ? it might be less effort than trying to straighten it.
Hi james looking good mate. Nice to see it from another angle. What colour do you think you'll paint the window frames?
Attempts to straighten that rail will always look wonky so cut it out have a new bit welded on internally sleeved onto the existing rail. I expect it was bent by mooring lines.
Once you bend a pipe like that (or is it solid bar?) it tends to stretch and will never go back to its original position. You could be lucky and it may go back into place using a pipe bender. You would likely have to re-align the lengths fore and aft of the kink as well. From what i know about boats, it may have had something heavy fall onto it, or a heavy rope was used improperly. Be sure the rail mounts are also in proper condition, or it may decide to break at the weld when you try to straighten the rail. Good luck!
You could use a ratchet strap to pull the rail straight it shouldn't mark the bar. You could anchor it to a welded pin on the opposite side of the boat.
maybe clamp a long piece of angle iron to the bent hand rail then heat up and using more clamps pull back into shape
Sloe patrol looks great all lit up like that ... beers and jamming night soon then? 😁
Cut tube and replace with straight section.
Heat that bent bar up with a blow torch then twat it with a lump hammer. failing that reinforce the bar on the other side with a post or similar , then use a ratchet strap around both to pull the other one straight
Hey, great to see Sloe Patrol from the canal bank, love your twilight set up. Take care. The bent bar could be cut and a straight one put on in its place?
A long piece of rigid steel with a short chain around each end, then wrap those chains around the bar,, and a hydrolic jack on its side in the middle as a fulcrum pushing against the bar . right at the point of the bend... RE-SPECT
Add heat like you said but with the fulcrum bits.
The boats looking great, youve gone all arty farty with your video angles.
And they’re great!
Cut out the length of bent rail (some tool used it as center line anchor?) and either machine shop straighten it OR better yet and cheaply replace it with a new length of pipe (welded back in).
Hi it looks like its been painted over the mill scale on the steel , need to put a sanding pad on a grinder and key it in , or use a etch primer it all needs to come of , the bars bent because its had a rope on it to pull it in , use the grinder flat guard off dont dig in
Hey james. Great video series. I myself have been renovating a dutch barge and wish I had started a series like yours. But that in itself is a ton of work. Hats off.
I had a tip for you and a question.
The tip is a paint system. You probably made your choice but if not this maybe of interest.
Brantho korrux 3-1. German paint. Brilliant. The 3 parts refers to 1)anti rust 2)primer 3) top coat. I used it and highly like the simplicity.
My question for you.
I have to insulate one room and was thinkimg of spray foam like you did. Its behind my tophouse, stuurhut in dutch. The motor room seperates this room from the rest and i need extra room as baby on the way.
I have been discussing spray foam with people and some are for and some against. Those that are against say that future welding work is complicated by spray foam, not being able to remove it. I wonder what considerations you had when deciding to go with spray foam?
Love to hear what your thoughts are on it.
As for that bent rail.
If you are able to fill with water or sand. And heat it you maybe can straighten it. But maybe faster and simplier to cut out and replace with straight part. Thats if you know how to weld or have a friend who can help.
All the best to you. Keep up the good work and hard work
James you’re an old romantic 🕯
At least getting off the roof paint is relatively easy compared with some you’ve done- and thank god for that (!). .
..... Heading for London will be a special day 🐍
Ratchet straps for the rail?
are you getting one of those tankless water heaters you see mounted in other narrowboat galleys with the hood/chimney?
What about the bit that you have already painted?
that bits ok too - just like all the bits. It was just that front one was easy to take up.
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt 👍
cut out the dented pipe and inner sleeve the two ends so the inner pipe fits inside the original pipe, then weld to-gether....
Heating it up then hammer will work no prob on that rail mate
Top Stripping Young James :-)
as always.... ta
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt Haha!
It looks like somebody painted the roof with latex paint! Latex-based paint and oil-based paints won't stick to each other at all. Hopefully it was just someone's touchup of that one area!
you would be better off cutting that bent bar out and welding in a new peice, you could heat it and try to straighten it but it will hever look as good as a new peice. any chance of turning up your mic up a bit?
that bar "should" be able to be safely heat up with out actually having to worry about the heat continuing and damaging the interior of the boat. You will only have to heat a small part.
I might be wrong but I think that your roof needs to be chemically stripped right down to the metal. Start totally anew. Then you’ll know that your paint will stick.
Maybe pull IT trom the other side?
With roof bar you want to drink a lot of sloe Gin and voila looks straightish or you stop caring about it one of two :)
From the condition of that roof metal, i'd say the wrong undercoat was applied.
Your gold windows I suspect are aluminium, anodised. I would consider living with them as they are and possibly use some yellow /gold coach lines to frame any signage / patterns on the side of the boat to bring it all together. Paint does not like adhering to aluminium. You could remove the windows frames and get them professionally re-anodized a different colour or plastic coated, else you would need to primer-etch them yourself before hand painting. I fear that with the intricate slots in the frames, your paint won't conceal all of the gold and constant use of your windows (opening & closing etc) will chip off/wear through your paint, exposing more gold, and will look worse. Why create so much work?
Looks like the bar was bent by someone tieing ropes off to it.
To be honest, your easiest is to cut out that section and weld in a new piece. You'll never get the bent bit fully straight. Pipe should be cheap enough. Do the prep work yourself and keep the welder's work to the minimum.
Please be aware that when you look away from the camera like down the side of the boat we can't hear a word you're saying! Still issues on your sound which is a shame as we do want to hear you it's a good channel just a pain having to keep turning volume up and down!
You really can't point out certain spots where things will be done in the dark. Some light would have been nice, of video from within the boat where some things were pointed out. And, please work on the audio. The audio levels are so 'all over the place' that it is becomeing extremely annoying.
On the plus side, I'm happy to hear the good news about the roof. Well done.
The bent handrail.... judicial use of a pipe bender... you need controlled hydraulic pressure...
You're getting a bit gung ho with that multitool. They don't grow back you know! Be safe. (Also great work, I watch every vid.)
cheers pal -
Get red hot and a big mallet.
Two tite ropes iderside of the bent, and wack it out?
could hardly hear you on this one