This is what I have been waiting for. I can't believe I missed this video! I'm going to buy it right now and make a video about it on my channel. I do have analog strips all around my apartment because the quality of the light is just amazing. I can't go back to digital unless they improve it a lot!
I love your projects. I have a few Unos and Decas around the house, but I have more in storage waiting for a project. I will buy anything and everything you make. Here! Take my 💰💰💰
Oh yes, versus digital it has like 8192 steps available while running at ~10Khz vs 256! That's 32 times as much! So note you'll have to use ESPhome (or something else) since WLED is 8bit based.
Thanks so much for making this, it's exactly what I need! I've got a few home aquariums, and it's been impossible to find a lighting setup that I'm happy with. You can get pretty cheap lights with uselessly dumb controllers on them, or you can get fancy bluetooth/wifi lights that are only controllable through a proprietary (and crappy) app and you'll pay out the nose for the privilege. With An-Penta, I can buy the cheap aquarium lights and replace the dumb controller with this, and I've got full ability to customize it to work exactly how I want. I can even replace this ESP8266 that I've been using for temperature monitoring thanks to the Qwiic port exposing a few GPIO pins!
Awesome to hear it, exactly what I had in mind making them! When buying the strips you can also use some nice high quality ones with high CRI, I have some links on my website but a lot are outdated, I hope to update those soon. Make those fish shine! 🌞
This has been much long awaited for me. Thank you for all the work you've put into this! I'm eager to finally begin my project. It looks like you are already sold out. Hope to see more inventory soon.
Dude, I just want to say thank you for all the work that you've done. I just discovered QuinLED after purchasing a new home and wanting to get away from the traditional lighting style. Just wired up my DigUno-ESP32 and it works flawlessly. Also, I like how you didn't diffuse the LEDs behind you. I ordered the wrong diffuser when I ordered the LEDs and kept looking at the LEDs without it and they still look amazing. I might steal your look. lol
Working on those next, hoping to take them into production next week so then it'll be a month (or so, maybe 2) and then those will come out! Design, testing, etc. is all done! :D
Awesome! I didn't know i needed or want this, I'm excited for drzzz to get stock. We would live to see your front lighting mounting for our own zoom calls or on camera videos. Maybe a stand alone video showing camera lighting tips? Thx
sold out! congrats! so excited... finally prefer matrix but you make me stay logged in in discord from now on 👾 really looking forward to the next batch of the mini, the deca and the plus!🙏
Oh damn, that's a bit quicker then expected! We only had a small batch to start with (if there were issues we could fix them), next batches will be larger!
I have places for some recessed lights in the ceiling, and I was always considering analoge LED strips for it. Unfortunately they are shorter runs with only power cables running to the lights, so a smaller controller with do. I was considering zigbee RGBCCT controller for it, but I would rather give the money to you instead :)
Just bought a bunch. I've made a couple similar DIY controllers based on the ESP32, for the vastly superior PWM at higher frequencies. ESP8266 is total crap in comparison, and begs for coil whine on pretty much any un-potted power supply. The value proposition for this product is exceptional. For example, I could pop a DIN rail mount on the back, and run it in a waterproof outdoor enclosure with antenna bulkhead connectors. Great value.
Penta mini arrived yesterday! Great build quality, love the connectors! WLED connected fine, etc. My initial project uses 24V BTF FCOB strips. IIRC, I saw some examples of settings for WLED but can't seem to find them. The link for examples does not seem to work. Looks promising so far since when I save the config, my strip attached to L3 out flashes when I save a config. Eventually would like to play with 3000K 4000K and 5000K strips attached to L3 L4 L5 for short under counter run. Will experiment when I have more time.
@@IntermitTech I realize the Home Assistant is the best way to get to my ultimate goal (blending / dimming / high resolution) but WLED is already in use. Your HW just keeps getting better!!! Even though I have dig quads, unos, etc. I just love the simplicity of Dig2Go! IMHO, PentaMini is yet another step forward with better HW! Look forward to reading your articles.
@@IntermitTech Your adding buttons livestream has the examples I needed. Three segments L3,L4,L5 with 3000K 4000K and 5000K BTF FCOB strips. All effects work as well. Info shows 42.5 degrees and average fps 111.
Awesome, sounds good! Although the FPS won't matter too much if you are in WLED since it's purely 8bit where ESPhome could do 12bit. Still, it only matters when fading anyway, glad you got it working the way you wanted!
The DrZZs image on your buying page is not in an anchor tag so it cannot be clicked. Just FYI. Though maybe that is intentional since I don't see it listed in his store yet. EDIT: Finally read the text above the buttons, DrZzs will get them next batch. Got it.
Yeah as explained in the video, DrZZs will get a pre-allocated lot from the second batch, sadly we couldn't make it this time. That's why the button isn't working yet (but I get that might be confusing right now, I'll remove it for the time being).
How did you set the lighting to yourself? I'm having issues with either looking to dark in video meetings or blinding myself. Would love to set up some high CRI white with dimming to inversely match incoming sunlight
Ah yeah, I'm basically in a studio so I control all the lighting and also set all the settings manually on my DSLR so that might be a bit different situation, having control over everything basically.
@@IntermitTech how did you "spatially" organise your lights? Ring light, single strip, a "box", ...? Directly towards you, or 45°? Diffusers, I suppose? I'm likely overwhelming you with kinda offtopic questions :P but I feel like you got the lighting figured out quite well for being in what appears to be a room with no direct sunlight?
When do you expect the An-Penta-Deca to be available? I have 4 dual white strips I'd like to connect, I'd prefer one device and the An-Penta-Deca looks like the one to use (right?).
Congratulations! 🎉 Question: What's the best way to pair a rotary dimmer with an ESP-based device like this without having to go through a hub? Bluetooth? Wired? Some other suggestion? It would be great to have a somewhat physical override in addition to the remote capabilities
2 ways you can go about it: 1. Use the 3x button input + GND + 3.3v output, that allows you to run a rotary encoder including push function. 2. Find something I2C, you'll need software support for it but that should also give you some options. Both of those would run locally and if you can configure it software wise in WLED or ESPhome, then you should be set.
@@IntermitTech If I can use those external button inputs for anything, I can use the "platform: rotary_encoder" sensor. But I heard you say the inputs are hardware debounced, and I wasn't sure if that would interfere with their generic use. (?)
Although technically I could make it without too many changes, there would still need to be software support by some project, and I don't know any right now.
I use your An-Penta DIY boards with my white LED strips (CRI >95) and Home Assistant since a couple of months, and they work fine. Apart from the fact that you can buy the new version assembled, is there any big difference between your DIY and assembled boards?
The An-Penta DIY is ahead of this board in some ways (current handling) but behind it in others (48v support for instance). The Mini is also fully designed from the ground up with my custom circuits so itself and your PSU will make less whine/coil noises since I've tried to mitigate that. The DIY is still a current and modern design though and incorporates a lot of the same DNA basically so it's really a toss up in regards to what you need feature wise. If you already have the DIY and are happy with it, no real killer feature to replace it I'd say though.
@@IntermitTech Thanks for the superfast response. I built already 5 of them and have the parts for 5 more. I guess that will be all I need in the moment. I just checked your prices for the new assembled boards. That is less than I expected. If I need more, then I have to think if I want to solder myself for 2h or so, or just buy the readymade product. I guess I would still do them myself, like: look here, I build them myself. ;)
one question: could I configure one port to send out a 0-10V control voltage (that's widely used in the growing community / from LED manufacturers to control fans, lights - but I wouldn't be able to configure one or two outputs to act like that?
Ah no, first the board is 12v-48v compatible so officially not 10v (it'll likely work though). Second, if you then run it at 10v, all ports would do that. I also don't know how a 0v-10v input will react having PWM on it, it might just see the average voltage (like a multimeter for instance). So you could try it and see if it works for that, the board will work, I just don't know if it's the right signal and you would have to dedicated the board as a whole to it.
@@IntermitTech yeah... okay probably not... there's no such device on the market - you could earn quite a bit of money / sell it to growers (it's all 0-10V dimmers ... that we need in HomeAssistant) - the stuff on the market is not really good tbh (bought a Tuya and Shelly .. both mediocre / bad quality)
Question please if I may. I have 2 of these and one setup really easily and I can see it in wled. The other I have added to my wifi in the normal way and changed the name to kitchen.local. However wled will not see it and now WLED-AP is not there either. Is there a way to access this thing. Thakns in advance
For sure, either using built in effects with WLED or they are also very easy to do with ESPhome, I use their "transition length" setting set to 3s often to make it very nice and smooth.
Since the board runs on 3.3v and the buttons terminal is also 3.3v, does this mean a motion sensor cannot be used considering they are usually 5v? I've been trying an AM312 with no luck.
Well it could potentially if you have something else that has 5v on it since the board indeed doesn't expose any 5v (it does have it internally). Are you sure it's still 3.3v GPIO coming from it with 5v in?
@@IntermitTech Good news! I was looking at another motion sensor, the SR501, and found some posts about bypassing the 3.3v regulator. I hooked one up and it indeed works!! I've read this sensor has a lot of false positives and I haven't tried any suggestions about how to deal with that, but this is really just meant as a hardwired backup to some wireless motion sensors for a kitchen where the An-Penta-Mini is going. I also got a POT working with Button 1 for brightness control which was the other critical piece of this setup for hardwired control. I gotta say this thing is beautiful. I was dragging my feet for weeks trying to decide on a controller for a kitchen cabinet install and just happened to see this video drop and managed to quickly snag one. So glad I took my time! The detachable connectors are so incredibly useful and nice to work with. I'm in love with it and almost don't want to have to hide it away.
So with the An-Penta-Mini you'd need multiple but one of the upcoming boards will be a 15 channel version! RGBWW is a bit of a confusing term, you either mean RGBW with warm white or RGBCCT so with dual white. If it's 4 channels (RGBW) then 15 / 4 = 3,75 LED strip you can control individually and for RGBCCT (that's 5 channels) you can control 3 from a single controller individually. I'm hoping to have those controllers out in a month or so!
This is what I have been waiting for. I can't believe I missed this video! I'm going to buy it right now and make a video about it on my channel. I do have analog strips all around my apartment because the quality of the light is just amazing. I can't go back to digital unless they improve it a lot!
Hey that's awesome, always appreciated! Shoot me a message on Discord when you have it up! :)
I love your projects. I have a few Unos and Decas around the house, but I have more in storage waiting for a project. I will buy anything and everything you make. Here! Take my 💰💰💰
That's very kind, thank you, glad you are enjoying the boards!
Just received my first mini. More than live up to my already high expectations. Great job, Quinn.
These are so worth the wait! Can't wait for them to arrive. Well done sir!
I'm so excited for this, and the eventual high-power version! My sunrise light alarm automation will be sooo much smoother.
Oh yes, versus digital it has like 8192 steps available while running at ~10Khz vs 256! That's 32 times as much!
So note you'll have to use ESPhome (or something else) since WLED is 8bit based.
@@IntermitTech ooh very good to know re: wled! I assume zigbee (my current setup) is similar to wled in bit depth
Still using your DIG-Uno and quad analog led boards. Keep up the great work.
Thnx, I try! :D
Thanks so much for making this, it's exactly what I need! I've got a few home aquariums, and it's been impossible to find a lighting setup that I'm happy with. You can get pretty cheap lights with uselessly dumb controllers on them, or you can get fancy bluetooth/wifi lights that are only controllable through a proprietary (and crappy) app and you'll pay out the nose for the privilege. With An-Penta, I can buy the cheap aquarium lights and replace the dumb controller with this, and I've got full ability to customize it to work exactly how I want. I can even replace this ESP8266 that I've been using for temperature monitoring thanks to the Qwiic port exposing a few GPIO pins!
Awesome to hear it, exactly what I had in mind making them! When buying the strips you can also use some nice high quality ones with high CRI, I have some links on my website but a lot are outdated, I hope to update those soon. Make those fish shine! 🌞
This has been much long awaited for me. Thank you for all the work you've put into this! I'm eager to finally begin my project. It looks like you are already sold out. Hope to see more inventory soon.
Yes sorry about that, we ran out quicker then we thought we would, we should be getting new stock in about a month, a bigger batch this time!
The best Dutch led guy out there !
Dude, I just want to say thank you for all the work that you've done. I just discovered QuinLED after purchasing a new home and wanting to get away from the traditional lighting style. Just wired up my DigUno-ESP32 and it works flawlessly.
Also, I like how you didn't diffuse the LEDs behind you. I ordered the wrong diffuser when I ordered the LEDs and kept looking at the LEDs without it and they still look amazing. I might steal your look. lol
man... you solved a problem I had for a long time... thank you so much! Excited!
I already bought one. Waiting for full version with more power!
Working on those next, hoping to take them into production next week so then it'll be a month (or so, maybe 2) and then those will come out! Design, testing, etc. is all done! :D
@@IntermitTechExcellent am very looking forward to get one of those also with the ethernet is very nice.
I've been following your vids on this one. Good luck man!
Awesome! I didn't know i needed or want this, I'm excited for drzzz to get stock. We would live to see your front lighting mounting for our own zoom calls or on camera videos. Maybe a stand alone video showing camera lighting tips? Thx
sold out! congrats! so excited... finally
prefer matrix but you make me stay logged in in discord from now on 👾
really looking forward to the next batch of the mini, the deca and the plus!🙏
Oh damn, that's a bit quicker then expected! We only had a small batch to start with (if there were issues we could fix them), next batches will be larger!
Looking forward to the Penta-Plus. Can we expect it soon?
I have places for some recessed lights in the ceiling, and I was always considering analoge LED strips for it. Unfortunately they are shorter runs with only power cables running to the lights, so a smaller controller with do. I was considering zigbee RGBCCT controller for it, but I would rather give the money to you instead :)
Just bought a bunch. I've made a couple similar DIY controllers based on the ESP32, for the vastly superior PWM at higher frequencies. ESP8266 is total crap in comparison, and begs for coil whine on pretty much any un-potted power supply. The value proposition for this product is exceptional. For example, I could pop a DIN rail mount on the back, and run it in a waterproof outdoor enclosure with antenna bulkhead connectors. Great value.
Thnx, appreciate the comment and glad you like them! More to come!!
Penta mini arrived yesterday! Great build quality, love the connectors! WLED connected fine, etc. My initial project uses 24V BTF FCOB strips. IIRC, I saw some examples of settings for WLED but can't seem to find them. The link for examples does not seem to work. Looks promising so far since when I save the config, my strip attached to L3 out flashes when I save a config. Eventually would like to play with 3000K 4000K and 5000K strips attached to L3 L4 L5 for short under counter run. Will experiment when I have more time.
Some articles are still a bit of a work in progress! I'll try and get them done soon.
Not sure about the flashing output, I'll check that out!
@@IntermitTech I realize the Home Assistant is the best way to get to my ultimate goal (blending / dimming / high resolution) but WLED is already in use. Your HW just keeps getting better!!! Even though I have dig quads, unos, etc. I just love the simplicity of Dig2Go! IMHO, PentaMini is yet another step forward with better HW! Look forward to reading your articles.
Thnx, appreciate that!
@@IntermitTech Your adding buttons livestream has the examples I needed. Three segments L3,L4,L5 with 3000K 4000K and 5000K BTF FCOB strips. All effects work as well. Info shows 42.5 degrees and average fps 111.
Awesome, sounds good! Although the FPS won't matter too much if you are in WLED since it's purely 8bit where ESPhome could do 12bit. Still, it only matters when fading anyway, glad you got it working the way you wanted!
Been waiting for these, but was too slow! Allnet already sold out, my fault,
Ah well I'll wait for next batch,
I hope you are well.
Hoping to have a new batch in about a months time!
@@IntermitTech excellent, can't wait.
The DrZZs image on your buying page is not in an anchor tag so it cannot be clicked. Just FYI. Though maybe that is intentional since I don't see it listed in his store yet. EDIT: Finally read the text above the buttons, DrZzs will get them next batch. Got it.
Yeah as explained in the video, DrZZs will get a pre-allocated lot from the second batch, sadly we couldn't make it this time. That's why the button isn't working yet (but I get that might be confusing right now, I'll remove it for the time being).
@@IntermitTech No problem. Just got excited before the video was over. Don't mind me...
How did you set the lighting to yourself?
I'm having issues with either looking to dark in video meetings or blinding myself.
Would love to set up some high CRI white with dimming to inversely match incoming sunlight
Ah yeah, I'm basically in a studio so I control all the lighting and also set all the settings manually on my DSLR so that might be a bit different situation, having control over everything basically.
@@IntermitTech how did you "spatially" organise your lights? Ring light, single strip, a "box", ...? Directly towards you, or 45°? Diffusers, I suppose?
I'm likely overwhelming you with kinda offtopic questions :P but I feel like you got the lighting figured out quite well for being in what appears to be a room with no direct sunlight?
When do you expect the An-Penta-Deca to be available? I have 4 dual white strips I'd like to connect, I'd prefer one device and the An-Penta-Deca looks like the one to use (right?).
Yes that would be perfect for that! They are currently in assembly but we are facing an issue, if we can resolve that I hope in a few weeks!
Congratulations! 🎉
Question: What's the best way to pair a rotary dimmer with an ESP-based device like this without having to go through a hub?
Bluetooth? Wired? Some other suggestion?
It would be great to have a somewhat physical override in addition to the remote capabilities
2 ways you can go about it:
1. Use the 3x button input + GND + 3.3v output, that allows you to run a rotary encoder including push function.
2. Find something I2C, you'll need software support for it but that should also give you some options.
Both of those would run locally and if you can configure it software wise in WLED or ESPhome, then you should be set.
@@IntermitTech If I can use those external button inputs for anything, I can use the "platform: rotary_encoder" sensor. But I heard you say the inputs are hardware debounced, and I wasn't sure if that would interfere with their generic use. (?)
For normal usage such as buttons, switches or a rotary encoder it's actually a circuit you want, so all good!
Love the board..can't wait till it's available in US. Will future versions have zigbee?
Although technically I could make it without too many changes, there would still need to be software support by some project, and I don't know any right now.
looks awesome !
I use your An-Penta DIY boards with my white LED strips (CRI >95) and Home Assistant since a couple of months, and they work fine. Apart from the fact that you can buy the new version assembled, is there any big difference between your DIY and assembled boards?
The An-Penta DIY is ahead of this board in some ways (current handling) but behind it in others (48v support for instance). The Mini is also fully designed from the ground up with my custom circuits so itself and your PSU will make less whine/coil noises since I've tried to mitigate that. The DIY is still a current and modern design though and incorporates a lot of the same DNA basically so it's really a toss up in regards to what you need feature wise. If you already have the DIY and are happy with it, no real killer feature to replace it I'd say though.
@@IntermitTech Thanks for the superfast response. I built already 5 of them and have the parts for 5 more. I guess that will be all I need in the moment. I just checked your prices for the new assembled boards. That is less than I expected. If I need more, then I have to think if I want to solder myself for 2h or so, or just buy the readymade product. I guess I would still do them myself, like: look here, I build them myself. ;)
Guru!
one question: could I configure one port to send out a 0-10V control voltage (that's widely used in the growing community / from LED manufacturers to control fans, lights - but I wouldn't be able to configure one or two outputs to act like that?
Ah no, first the board is 12v-48v compatible so officially not 10v (it'll likely work though). Second, if you then run it at 10v, all ports would do that. I also don't know how a 0v-10v input will react having PWM on it, it might just see the average voltage (like a multimeter for instance).
So you could try it and see if it works for that, the board will work, I just don't know if it's the right signal and you would have to dedicated the board as a whole to it.
@@IntermitTech yeah... okay probably not... there's no such device on the market - you could earn quite a bit of money / sell it to growers (it's all 0-10V dimmers ... that we need in HomeAssistant) - the stuff on the market is not really good tbh (bought a Tuya and Shelly .. both mediocre / bad quality)
So this replaced the dig2analog when hi refresh rates are needed? I wish there was an Ethernet version
Yes and stay tuned. 😉
Question please if I may. I have 2 of these and one setup really easily and I can see it in wled. The other I have added to my wifi in the normal way and changed the name to kitchen.local. However wled will not see it and now WLED-AP is not there either. Is there a way to access this thing. Thakns in advance
great work thanks
oh sold out
Yes sorry about that, we ran out quicker then we thought we would, we should be getting new stock in about a month, a bigger batch this time!
@@IntermitTech great news thanks
sorry for the noob question, can I use this to do a fade in and fade out on/off ?
For sure, either using built in effects with WLED or they are also very easy to do with ESPhome, I use their "transition length" setting set to 3s often to make it very nice and smooth.
Sorry if I missed it, but I wonder why WiFi instead of Ethernet? Is/will there be an option?
Yes there will be an An-Penta-Plus soon which will have integrated Ethernet!
Since the board runs on 3.3v and the buttons terminal is also 3.3v, does this mean a motion sensor cannot be used considering they are usually 5v? I've been trying an AM312 with no luck.
Well it could potentially if you have something else that has 5v on it since the board indeed doesn't expose any 5v (it does have it internally).
Are you sure it's still 3.3v GPIO coming from it with 5v in?
@@IntermitTech Good news! I was looking at another motion sensor, the SR501, and found some posts about bypassing the 3.3v regulator. I hooked one up and it indeed works!! I've read this sensor has a lot of false positives and I haven't tried any suggestions about how to deal with that, but this is really just meant as a hardwired backup to some wireless motion sensors for a kitchen where the An-Penta-Mini is going. I also got a POT working with Button 1 for brightness control which was the other critical piece of this setup for hardwired control.
I gotta say this thing is beautiful. I was dragging my feet for weeks trying to decide on a controller for a kitchen cabinet install and just happened to see this video drop and managed to quickly snag one. So glad I took my time! The detachable connectors are so incredibly useful and nice to work with. I'm in love with it and almost don't want to have to hide it away.
I have 10 rgbww strips around the house, all routed to the utility room. Would I get 10 controllers, or are there multi strip controllers I could use?
So with the An-Penta-Mini you'd need multiple but one of the upcoming boards will be a 15 channel version! RGBWW is a bit of a confusing term, you either mean RGBW with warm white or RGBCCT so with dual white. If it's 4 channels (RGBW) then 15 / 4 = 3,75 LED strip you can control individually and for RGBCCT (that's 5 channels) you can control 3 from a single controller individually. I'm hoping to have those controllers out in a month or so!
@@IntermitTech cool! And if I were using WS2805 or some other addressable led, could I use 15 of those?
Resolution?
Hope every channel is 16-Bit dimmable.
Depends on the Hz set, check the documentation in my website, it's in there.
Ugh. Waited 1 day before buying and it was a fatal mistake. Hopefully they are back in stock before too long....😢
Yeah they went quick and the first batch wasn't very big. We are re-producing in bigger numbers but it'll take a month or so.
Link to the 3D printer strips?
It was this strip, worked out quite well, nice and even lighting because it's already mostly diffused being COB: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DCY36uF
😭Sold out already