💡QuinLED💡Introducing the dig2analog
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- Ever needed some high quality white light or wanted to use some Analog/Dumb LED strips in a spot but you only have a digital controller? No longer a problem! Use a dig2analog to add some analog PWM lighting to your digital controller!
0:00 - Video introduction
0:30 - What does the board do?
1:10 - Use cases and the problem with white LEDs
3:00 - Compatible with the Dig boards!
3:50 - Board connections explained
5:30 - Data side switch
6:05 - More board options
7:10 - Analog/PWM outputs
7:50 - Hooking it up!
9:20 - Configuring WLED
12:00 - PWM pattern
13:25 - Adding a second dig2analog
16:00 - Using segments
17:40 - End conclusion
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If you still have any questions, let me know in the comments or join the Intermittent Technology Discord server here: / discord
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✨ QuinLED pages and buying links: quinled.info/quinled-dig2analog/
✨ Auxmer 16AWG 3-wire cable: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DlV...
✨ Auxmer High quality Single Color LED strip: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Ddc...
✨ Auxmer High quality CCT LED strip: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dmi...
✨ Auxmer High Quality RGB+CCT LED strip: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DEc...
*note the dig2analog only has 4 channels!
✨ BTF 24v COB RGBW LED strip: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dkp...
My custom Addressable LED controllers available for sale!
(All pages have links to WorldWide (Allnet) and US Local (DrZZs))
✨ dig2go dedicated website: dig2go.info
✨ QuinLED-Dig-Uno Pre-Assembled: quinled.info/quinled-dig-uno/
✨ QuinLED-Dig-Quad Pre-Assembled: quinled.info/quinled-dig-quad/
✨ QuinLED-Dig-Octa System: quinled.info/quinled-dig-octa/
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WLED official websites:
Download official builds: wled.me
Web USB programming: install.wled.me
Custom QuinLED builds: install.quinled.info
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This is so cool, great job 🎉 can even be combined with regular SK6812 on a single data pin by of course feeding separate voltages swapping the channel terminals around so that GRBW order ends up being correct :)
Hi there Aircookie, I am a massive fan of your work,
I hope you are well,
I am Just about to update all my quin boards and Quin esp32 boards with the latest wled, first time of doing this, please could you tell me briefly what drivers are and which ones are the best and safest to use with your wled?
Many thanks for any help you can give.
Let me reply here, generally you just need the CH340 and if you see a serial port, you already have it. Otherwise the page on the web installers will recommend one or I have some links on my ESP32 pages!
@@IntermitTech
Excellent, thank you Quin,
Thanks mate literally what I was looking for ...out of the box ....
I accidentally bought some "dumb" leds when I was first getting into WLED. I always wondered about how much better white light would have been able be. I'm excited to now be able to try them out on a shop lighting project and still use WLED. Thank you for all of your hard work.
awesome , and the live demo is very useful and informative
Wow. You’ve just changed the game.. again!!
Fantastic. Thanks for the overview. I built your Decas some years ago along with Dig Unos and have been extremely happy with them. I still haven’t installed my Octas 😮. Now I need these too!!! Thanks for all you do.
It’s all really clever. Very impressed. 👍
This is exactly what I need for my setup. Had to purchase 1.
Love it. Years ago I tried to make something similar (without nearly enough electronics engineering experience) so put under each stair, so I could use cheap PWM LED strips to animate down or up depending on where motion was sensed, going down the stairs, or going up. Well done, as always!
Yup, that's exactly one of the uses cases I had in mind!
Got mine today. Time to learn how to set them up :D
Thx for the great job, great devices.
Good idea, I just ordered a 5-pack.
very nice work 👌
Saw the video thumbnail.. heard an angelchoir!
I just bought my house numbers with warm white LEDs. This board my be useful, if I can figure out how to have IA LEDs in there, too.
I’ve I had of known about these a few months ago I would off bought 20 of them .
I’ll still probably purchase 10 to have on hand for last minute projects …
Excited to try this out thanks for sharing this stuff! What you do seems really well thought out.
Quick question about amperage: I notice a lot of manufacturers list max amps, but the total number of watts depending on what power level you choose can vary wildly (36watts at 12v vs 72 watts at 24v for example) is amperage really the only thing you need to take into consideration? Is heat dissipation for the 36w vs 72w a concern?
Edit: ah man 2khz for pwm is a deal breaker for me 😞
Back when I started on this journey, I didn’t know the difference between digital and analog leds. I bought a bunch of 24v rgbcw cob lights that are 6 wire. Would be nice if this board could control all 5 colors.
Sadly there are not really supported chips out there which enable that digitally. Once there are I'll certainly make a new version!
This would be super easy for doing stairs with effects.
Does WLED allow 2 or more motion sensors? You want a motion sensor at top/bottom and on landings. Would need some stair 'effects' added too
Hi there Quin, I hope you are well,
Just about to update all my quin boards and Quin esp32 boards with the latest wled, first time of doing this, please could you tell me briefly what drivers are and which ones are the best and safest to use?
Many thanks for your help as always.
Does this also work with strips with two different white LEDs (different color temperatures in one strip)? Thanks.
If you use two of the other colors as controls it would, the board has 4 channels just by default it's assumed these are RGBW but you can use them for anything you like, just control wise in the softwares it would look like that.
Sadly there are not supported RGB+CCT chips you there that WLED also supports.
Hi, is it possible to use just one quinled dig uno or quad with two dig2analog modules in order to connect that setup (1x contloller board + 2x dig2analog) to one SK6812 5V rgbww (4m) and two Auxmer 24V dumb led (2m each) via the dig2analogs ? If that setup is possible, do i need two different power supplies like one for 5V and one for 24V? Or I have to use two quinled dig boards with two different (5V, 24V) power supplies?
This would be a nice addition if it could enable to add a high cri CCT strip
Sadly there are no real RGB+CCT chips that WLED also supports. You can however use it as 2x CCT if you want, just software control wise it won't look right since it assumes RGBW for the 4 available channels. Nothing preventing you from using them different though and making presets so you don't have to think about it again!
cool little board. I know you now have dedicated analogue controllers but these you have to build. So, can you use this to control only white leds, with just 2 wires, like your second strip or does it have to have a RGBW first?
Oooooo, interreeting , i think it can still have it's usage when analog is out, would be nice if there would be 5channel addresable chip in the future
Also limit is 24v even if used only as interface to control analog strips?
Sadly no RGB+CCT chips out there that are also supported in WLED. So RGBW for now.
Power runs directly through the MOSFETs for analog so yes, 24v limit in this case.
This is great, do you think i can drive a CCT white strip with it in addition of a RGB Adressable strip if i'm using same voltage strips ? Would sending something between red and blue adjudt the CCT mix ? Thank you and keep up these great products !
Yes for now that's the best way to do CCT on them. If everything is the same voltage it also makes it easy to connect it all, but you can run different voltages of you want.
Quick question. I recently bought a quad and a dig2analog. What really well manufactured hardware! Just incredible.
I'll be using the products on the boat to run 3 24v cob strips. I also need to control the 4-pin RGB LEDs (like 1 in center frame) on four 6.5" Infinity speakers.
I am assuming that's a use case for the dig2analog and my pointed question (finally) is if I'm ok w/ all 4 speakers doing the same thing, can 1 dig2analog control those 4 and how to wire or do I need a dig2analog for each of 4 speakers?
Thanks!
Thnx! Yeah you'd need 4x dig2analog for that, each would act as a single RGBW pixel.
Hi, what happened to differential transmitter/reciver project? I can not find your video about that anymore, looks like it was deleted. Are you still gonna make them? I know you have one on drzzs store but that is quite expensive for single channel
Thanks for the video. I am new at this. So i wonder if i can combine 5v rgb strips with Auxmer 2835 Wwcw 12vor 24v on a dig quad with this dig2analog? And can i use a 12 v or 24v power supply to power all of them. Sorry if this is the most neewby question ever :). I am trying to learn ...
Yes all of those combinations are possible, it's exactly why I developed the board! You can use the same or a different voltage that the Dig-Quad is running. So the Dig-Quad can run 5v and then you can run the dig2analog with 24v. You just need 2 power supplies and between the Dig-Quad and the dig2analog you only connect data+GND
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I'd actually like to see a improved/cheaper version of the analogue string light items. just a relay that goes on and off, most of the ones out there I can never get the wifi to connect to a modern system
I'm confused, what are you looking for? There are plenty of relay boards out there?
Could you use this to control LED down lights (recessed lights) if they are 12v DC?
If they are constant voltage in theory yes!
I have a strip of LEDs that are dual white. One channel is WW and the other is CW. The idea is that you can combine the brightness of both channels to get different Kelvin value of white light. Could I use this with a single board or would I need two? How would WLED be configured then?
You can use it with a single board just WLED won't really understand what's connected. So in the interface you'd have them connected to say Red for WW and blue for CW and then mix those colors to get your desired temperature. That works fine. I'd recommend creating presets for what you use most so the you don't even have to think about it anymore.
which one i need to buy for best result Dig-Quad Antenna or Ethernet but sold out!? can you drop a link for best 12v 5Amps power supply!!?? thank you so much
Worldwide should have everything in stock! Us we try to refill when we can, Dig-Quad with external antenna should be in stock right now!
Best 12v 5A I don't know, but try to get something from meanwell, like an LRS-150-12 for instance, those are good!
Wish it could support WW/CW. I only used RGBWWCW analog strips now.
I do too but sadly there is no good support for RGB+CCT in WLED for instance nor are there any chips available that do this that are supported so RGBW is the best I could do for now!
? @IntermitTech Can it support just a pure white WW/CW without RGB
Asking here in hopes that you answer me since I am lost :D
I have 3 x 5m BTF-Lighting-24V-FCOB-528L-W (14W/M) strips, thus analogue white strips with just 2 wires and want to run all three of them as 'one long strip'. I already bought a dig-quad before knowing they were analogue and really want to use it.
In order to use the dig-quad, I can just buy 3 x dig2analog and connect them as shown at 19:12 (1 power injection at last one, 3 strips in total) correct? Meaning dimming and adding a wiz remote to control all 3 strips at the same time is doable?
Some noob questions if you have time to spare:
I do not have to connect the individial strips to make one long one if I get 3 x dig2analog, right?
Could I alternatively get just 1 dig2analog and connect the strips + do power injection directly onto the strips? If so, would you prefer this or 3 x dig2analog?
If I need 2 power injections (inital one + 2 for the other strips), I do not need to add another wire pair from the power supply to the dig-quad but just use the output of another fuse, right?
I need to run 16 AWG for power injecting the last strip, do you have recommendations for connectors that I need at any point (PSU dig-quad / dig-quad dig2analog / dig2analog strip)? I see a few of them in your videos but don't know the names since this is new to me.
Let's see!
You can wire it both ways really. You could use 1 board and use 3 channels, although you might run into the 3A total limit, you can up that to 6A but then you still might. The second way is using 3 boards then you'd have 3x 3A in total and although these will be treated as separate pixels as long as you have it set to solid for instance they will be treated exactly the same and that would work fine. You'd have to try and see if you can have all the negatives connected or not and you need separate wiring for them, I haven't tested that.
So your questions:
Yes if you all have them individual they will still act as one.
Power injection directly won't work with Analog/PWM strip since the negative/GND is used for the PWM.
Power Injections for Analog always go through the PWM controller, in this case the dig2analog but be mindful of the board and channel limits.
Connectors it's a bit hard to say, WAGOs are often useful or otherwise spade crimp connectors.
@@IntermitTech Thank you so much for taking your time to answer viewer questions and producing those boards :)
Just to omit misunderstandings: Getting 3 x dig2analog and adding power injection from a separate fuse from the dig-quad to each dig2analog is the (safe & sure) way to go?
I don't quite understand what you meant by '[...] if you can have all the negatives connected or not and you need separate wiring for them [...]'.
Connecting the strips to try to make them 'function as one' when wiring 3 x dig2analog? (Apologies, this is my first LED strip project)
@@markusdittmer3402 again you can go both ways, you can either use a single say 10A fuse (if the wiring can support that in a shorted situation) or use 3x 5A fuse for instance, the latter in theory is slightly safer but not by much (as long as the wires are rated to handle the current).
So with Analog strip the brightness is controlled by pulsing the negative side with PWM. Injecting power isn't so much a thing since normally it would have to come from the exact same channel and MOSFET to do so and the dig2analog isn't designed for that with it's 3A limit (per channel). Thus you'd have to use multiple channels and thus also multiple MOSFETs (either on the same board or not) and if their timing doesn't align that could cause weird issues. So the safest way to do it would be to treat each 5m strip as an individual strip and not have their negative sides connected in between each other, the positive side shouldn't be an issue (as long as it's coming from the same PSU). This works very differently vs Digital LED strip hence why I'm trying to explain that. :)
And no worries about being the first project, maybe also come to the Discord server, easier to discuss these kind of things! :)
Is it possible in WLED to have a different led configuration (RGB, BRG, RGBW etc) per segment?
I would want to control RGB strip on segment 1, then on a second board for segment 2 have WW/CW (2 channel strip).
Yes and no. Not in a way WLED will actually understand it at least. Generally I'd advise to use a second data channel for the dig2analog then because otherwise mixing RGB and RGBW for instance would become problematic.
@@IntermitTech hmm ok thanks. May be a bit limited by number of data channels vs 100's of possible analogue boards/segments when chained.
Maybe a good project for someone to add this feature to WLED 😁
Hopefully the all analogue board you are developing could be used (board per dumb strip) then no need for different segments as each strip will be an entire WLED instance right?
@samturner4406 yes correct!
Damn -- nice board but all the digital to analog boards are sold out.
Ah, I just noticed also! We've already started a new batch!