Video was definitely not boring, I appreciate the discussion of features. I recently bought the Dig-Octa Brainboard and a Octa Power-5 to drive some small, in length, RGB strips. This, from my research, is best suited for my needs, A well thought out design and that I am also currently using ESP32 modules to study control of RGB strips. The power side has been a concern, but I believe the Octa Power-5 solves this issue.
You are paving the way for my artistic career. I cannot thank you enough for creating this system. I will most certianly be investing in this and continuing to donate to WLED
Quite stoked for these boards. I recognise what you mean about the brain board limitations for a huge project but I like them over alternative big board options because the modularity means more choice and scalability, rather than having to go all-in.
Bravo! Ive been looking at making my own controller board because I like using din rail mounted fuse/terminals instead of PCB ones....for $32.50 its hard to justify doing it myself, too bad shipping to Canada is half the price of the board. I guess I'll just have to make my order worth while than :)
Yup, then just the brainboard should work perfectly fine for you! Can do power distribution and fusing using other Din rail stuff. Just make sure all GND is connected if you use multiple PSU. But the brainboard has several GND output terminals too. Shipping can be tough sometimes.
Yes when and can you please get a Canadian distributor, maybe I should talk my wife into being one up here in the great white north, well it's green right now but anyway should I ?
Impressive design. I do wish someone would come up with something to turn off the wifi chip/antenna (this one oes have the ethernet switch/jump) With WLED having the option to be controlled by hardware switches, the wifi module shut down might increase safety (I do not think the ESP platform has a very robust safety design, hacking wise) And having to use guest-like wlan might work, but its also just extra work.
Just got the Brainboard and a PowerBoard! Thank you for making these! Is there a way to connect the Brainboard to sensors like light or motion sensor? If so, is it possible to make a tutorial video?
It would be awesome to add a board to mount a raspberry pi compute module 4, or something similar, that way you could have xlights running in the same stack... The only problem is actually getting your hands on a raspberry pi...
Oh no worries, lots more videos coming up and I am already working on the articles for the board, very much a work in progress though! quinled.info/quinled-dig-octa/
Another great board , thank you for another great option. May I ask will this become as a DIY version, second query on your next live stream would you mind going over the temperature sensor. Can this be programmed to shut everything down if it sees a temperature or control a fan speed for fan in a control box. I'm assuming this can be set up in WLED also. Thank you
First, this looks awesome! Second, would someone be able clarify for me about the relay (I understand the function of a relay). Does this mean that the brainboard can turn on/off the power boards to power the LEDs when I do/dont need the power? For instance, it would be smart enough to not have the LED's turned on until I want my light show on, turn on during the light show, and then turn off after it is complete. Is that what it is for?
Yes that is exactly the idea! So in WLED you can configure a GPIO pin which will trigger the relay on and off depending on if you turn the LEDs on/off in WLED. If you then connect a little relay board on the AC side of your big 5v/12v LED power supply and keep the brainboard alive using a separate USB adapter for instance, the brainboard will always stay online and the LEDs and it's big power supply will only turn on when needed and turn off again when not. :)
You are right about the “If you can find them” Love your other products, can’t wait to get this one, especially at this price! When will they be able to be purchased?
Hey @Quindor, Thanks for the great walk-through of the Dig-Octa BrainBoard! I have one question though, at the 1:55 mark, you say the input power for the orange connector is compatible with 5v to 32v, but the board shows 5v-24v, and the rest of the time you talk about 24v. Does it really allow up to 32v input?
I have no idea what this is for exactly, I don’t do much with LED’s, some basic stuff with Home Assistant and no clue why YT said I should watch this. But, wow, YT was right, this has piqued my interest to fiddle with LED’s now. So where do we get it?
Question on mixing LED types. Would I be able to run 3 channels of SK6812 (260,260,380 LEDS) and a single strip of PWM RGB lights off the same controller (using outputs 4-6 per example for the 5050 LEDs. There are only 60 LEDs total on this strip). I am using a separate power structure to power all of them, I am just confirming if you can use a single ESP to control both types of lights with different segments. Thank you. This is an awesome idea BTW!
Discussing this with a few people, the only xLIghts related issues seems to be running a single prop that takes more than 8 channels to run. Ex. A mega tree that takes 16 ports doesn't divide nicely in the xLights visualizer, xLights would require some type of custom model, or shadow model. Please let me know if this is incorrect.
From what I have heard this might indeed be correct, I'm not xLights wizard myself but if true, hopefully they can program some kind of workaround or fix for that in the future.
Looking forward to buying these for use with XLights for my Christmas show. Will enclosures and mounting plates be available? Keeping water away would be good. Sized enclosures / mounting as part of the system would be great as it would already be ready to upgrade. Much like a HolidayCoro controller system.
Awesome! I generally don't like doing pre-orders though, especially on a first run, let's first see I can truly deliver. And I'll use my previous profits to pay for that. I think it's a more honest method then all the random kickstarter and such now a days. Make sure you are on the Discord server though, I generally notify there first, then RUclips. :)
Great work!! I’m about to start my LED project on my food trailer and wasn’t sure whether to wait for this product to be released or to purchase the Quad.. I’ve decided to purchase the double row 24v WS2811 120/m leds I’ve got approximately 66 meters of led to run (2x15m - 2x10m 2x6m 1x4m) “question” will the quad run this many leds and handle the power input or would I need 2x quads or should I just wait until the Octa comes out?
From a quick calculation a single Dig-Quad would be able to handle that if we use the 50% RGB white maximum values from the power sheet but it's right on the edge. I'd feel more comfortable having a Dig-Octa or 2x Dig-Quad handling that kind of power.
Newbie here, making a spreadsheet of what it would take to outline my house with strips in diffuser tracks. Looks like it will be easy to hit 6000 LEDs - are 3+ brainboards my best option or is there something I don't know yet?
That's a lot of LEDs but yes, sadly the ESP32 has limits in that sense. Using external LED data like from xLights you can make act like a whole though.
@@IntermitTech Thanks for the reply and answer. is 6k a lot? (I'm really worried it's a lot, it's like 300 amps @ 5V). I know the LED count shoots up if you decide strips instead of strings, and then again when you say "may as well do 60 per meter!". a few hundred ft around the roof, trim, garage, etc, the number goes way up. I know I don't have to outline everything - I could probably cut that in half but then I'll probably want to add wreaths/trees/etc, so it'll probably climb again even if 6k was too high an estimate for just the house... However I'm waffling on every single decision (maybe I will do strings at more like 15 per meter, I have no idea ). Choice paralysis.
It supports 5v up to 3Amps and will negotiate that but the powerboard itself has no facilities to drive LEDs so it's not really too useful in that regard it uses way way less power then that. :)
hello i updated to wled 13.3 and cannot use pin 5 for led channel 6, you mention changing the ethernet profile to use pin -1. does this has to be done pre compile or is there an option in the config to do this? thx
5v, 12v or 24v led strips or pixels, all good. You can also directly give it that voltage and it auto converts it onboard to what it needs. It doesn't do any power distribution to the LEDs though, just data. For that there are powerboards (check out the first video mentioned in the beginning).
The terminals that come with the device, are these rising clamp style terminals or are they the cheaper, less reliable, direct compression type with that never clamp properly?
All rising clamp for brainboards and powerboards, even the 7.62mm terminals. Also all with + or Philips head screw. On the previous Dig boards those where inpractical in regards to size but for this new system I reevaluated everything and went with what would be the best fit for that!
Ouch, yeah, I checked and for me to NL it's $21,55 in tax and $35,15 in shipping. The tax we can't do much about but the shipping costs we are working on but it's hard when you can't use Aliexpress shipping and such, especially for the Dig-Octa System it being heavy and fairly big it's certainly not cheap. We are looking into various other ways to lower these costs, be that lower shipping costs or local EU sales in the future, apologies for that!
@@IntermitTech thanks for your reply, I hope you can find another way to deliver because your product seems really amazing. I will try to find some alternative to dig-octa system but if I don't i will pay...
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong; To be able to play a light show sync'ed with audio, using the Dig-Octa, I will need... A) To use xLight to created the show B) save the show to a SBC like the Raspberry Pi C) connect the Pi to the Dig-Octa via Ethernet D) connect audio out from the Pi to a PA and/or FM transmitter E) Launch the show on the PI I am sure I am oversimplifying this but do I have the basics? what app/s do I need loaded on the Pi? What else am I missing?
It doesn't have any native capabilities such as a microphone (or pins available to hook it up) so in that sense no. But since it has Ethernet it is ideal to receive real-time LED data from LEDfx for instance! That would work fine.
@@IntermitTech Thank you for the quick response. I am a complete noob when it comes to pixels but want to jump into the hobby. I have minimal experience with the Arduino using it to control my food dehydrator, as well as a Pi using it as a retro arcade. My coding skills are very weak but want to learn. At this point I am just doing some research. My hope is to have a modest show ready for Christmas 2023. But also wanting to expand quickly after that. Sound reactive is cool and I am sure I would use it in some applications but I really want the capability of syncing a predefined show (like from xLights), to music. Would this be possible with the Dig-Octa and say a Pi? any input and/or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Not at all? It's been fully released in DIY form! I have plans for a pre-assembled version too but that's basically a full redesign to make it ready for manufacturing, but I have started work on it!
@@IntermitTech put me down for at least 20. I have a RUclips channel under a different name, and each of my projects with your dig uno and quad have around 50k views. I love your stuff and I will keep doing my best to spread the word! Keep it up 👍
Video was definitely not boring, I appreciate the discussion of features. I recently bought the Dig-Octa Brainboard and a Octa Power-5 to drive some small, in length, RGB strips. This, from my research, is best suited for my needs, A well thought out design and that I am also currently using ESP32 modules to study control of RGB strips. The power side has been a concern, but I believe the Octa Power-5 solves this issue.
I don't know why you don't have more likes this thing is awesome
Thanks Quindor to the all hard work, I hop in the future we see more and more advance and creative idea like this 👌🏻
awesome work as allways, keep it up. Ive never considered a led project this size, but you got me wondering if i shouldn't.
You are paving the way for my artistic career. I cannot thank you enough for creating this system. I will most certianly be investing in this and continuing to donate to WLED
Looking forward to this. It will make a great addition for my LED holiday decorations
Looking forward to when this all becomes available. Thanks for your hard work. Thanks.
Quite stoked for these boards. I recognise what you mean about the brain board limitations for a huge project but I like them over alternative big board options because the modularity means more choice and scalability, rather than having to go all-in.
Not many of us can afford to build a set up in one go , that and the time it takes to plan, buy and build everything in one go .
Exactly my thinking in creating this, it can easily scale while you grow.
Thank you very much, again this will be glorious.
I might end up cheery linking them closer to each idea I have but this is 2 years away as we just buy a new house, busy reno for months now.
Bravo! Ive been looking at making my own controller board because I like using din rail mounted fuse/terminals instead of PCB ones....for $32.50 its hard to justify doing it myself, too bad shipping to Canada is half the price of the board. I guess I'll just have to make my order worth while than :)
Yup, then just the brainboard should work perfectly fine for you! Can do power distribution and fusing using other Din rail stuff. Just make sure all GND is connected if you use multiple PSU. But the brainboard has several GND output terminals too.
Shipping can be tough sometimes.
Quindor is a genius
This going to be a game changer. When will be available?
Yes when and can you please get a Canadian distributor, maybe I should talk my wife into being one up here in the great white north, well it's green right now but anyway should I ?
Impressive design.
I do wish someone would come up with something to turn off the wifi chip/antenna (this one oes have the ethernet switch/jump)
With WLED having the option to be controlled by hardware switches, the wifi module shut down might increase safety (I do not think the ESP platform has a very robust safety design, hacking wise)
And having to use guest-like wlan might work, but its also just extra work.
Just got the Brainboard and a PowerBoard! Thank you for making these!
Is there a way to connect the Brainboard to sensors like light or motion sensor? If so, is it possible to make a tutorial video?
The board has an I2C port and dedicated button inputs, I'll consider a video for in the future!
@@IntermitTech I would also be interested in a way to add a motion sensor or remote control :)
It would be awesome to add a board to mount a raspberry pi compute module 4, or something similar, that way you could have xlights running in the same stack... The only problem is actually getting your hands on a raspberry pi...
This is absolutely fantastic! Any possibility of adding 4 +12v triggers ?
you should after explain everything, do a lot of demos showing the full option of the dig-octa! teach how to use for xlights... and so on!
Oh no worries, lots more videos coming up and I am already working on the articles for the board, very much a work in progress though! quinled.info/quinled-dig-octa/
Another great board , thank you for another great option. May I ask will this become as a DIY version, second query on your next live stream would you mind going over the temperature sensor. Can this be programmed to shut everything down if it sees a temperature or control a fan speed for fan in a control box. I'm assuming this can be set up in WLED also. Thank you
First, this looks awesome! Second, would someone be able clarify for me about the relay (I understand the function of a relay). Does this mean that the brainboard can turn on/off the power boards to power the LEDs when I do/dont need the power?
For instance, it would be smart enough to not have the LED's turned on until I want my light show on, turn on during the light show, and then turn off after it is complete. Is that what it is for?
Yes that is exactly the idea! So in WLED you can configure a GPIO pin which will trigger the relay on and off depending on if you turn the LEDs on/off in WLED. If you then connect a little relay board on the AC side of your big 5v/12v LED power supply and keep the brainboard alive using a separate USB adapter for instance, the brainboard will always stay online and the LEDs and it's big power supply will only turn on when needed and turn off again when not. :)
You are right about the “If you can find them” Love your other products, can’t wait to get this one, especially at this price! When will they be able to be purchased?
Target is end of Sept or maybe begin of Oct!
Hey @Quindor, Thanks for the great walk-through of the Dig-Octa BrainBoard! I have one question though, at the 1:55 mark, you say the input power for the orange connector is compatible with 5v to 32v, but the board shows 5v-24v, and the rest of the time you talk about 24v. Does it really allow up to 32v input?
Wait did I say 32v? That really should be max 24v! So it's rated and tested for 5v - 24v, 32v will cause issues!
@@IntermitTech Yeah, I watched a couple times to make sure I heard it right.
I have no idea what this is for exactly, I don’t do much with LED’s, some basic stuff with Home Assistant and no clue why YT said I should watch this. But, wow, YT was right, this has piqued my interest to fiddle with LED’s now.
So where do we get it?
Question on mixing LED types. Would I be able to run 3 channels of SK6812 (260,260,380 LEDS) and a single strip of PWM RGB lights off the same controller (using outputs 4-6 per example for the 5050 LEDs. There are only 60 LEDs total on this strip). I am using a separate power structure to power all of them, I am just confirming if you can use a single ESP to control both types of lights with different segments. Thank you. This is an awesome idea BTW!
Where can I find info on the dip switches? Why would I choose one over the other? Thank.
Will this work with Art-Net? I’m working with Resolume and would love to use this controller. Great design!
Yes WLED can receive Art-Net and WLED and ESPixelstick can also receive E1.31 and DDP
sotNice tutorialng either - I assu that works with Edison too) and I never thought about after that. Now, at tNice tutorials mont, I am inspired! I am
I would like to order, my question is whether this can also be ordered in the Netherlands, such a pity that it first has to go around the world twice.
Discussing this with a few people, the only xLIghts related issues seems to be running a single prop that takes more than 8 channels to run. Ex. A mega tree that takes 16 ports doesn't divide nicely in the xLights visualizer, xLights would require some type of custom model, or shadow model. Please let me know if this is incorrect.
From what I have heard this might indeed be correct, I'm not xLights wizard myself but if true, hopefully they can program some kind of workaround or fix for that in the future.
Looking forward to buying these for use with XLights for my Christmas show.
Will enclosures and mounting plates be available? Keeping water away would be good.
Sized enclosures / mounting as part of the system would be great as it would already be ready to upgrade. Much like a HolidayCoro controller system.
want these too
Eventually we are looking into making such things available but for this initial launch they will not yet be.
Very excited for these boards exactly what I need to consolidate and expand holiday lights. Any way to pre order a couple?
Awesome! I generally don't like doing pre-orders though, especially on a first run, let's first see I can truly deliver. And I'll use my previous profits to pay for that. I think it's a more honest method then all the random kickstarter and such now a days. Make sure you are on the Discord server though, I generally notify there first, then RUclips. :)
Nice! When will it be available in global stores?
Great work!! I’m about to start my LED project on my food trailer and wasn’t sure whether to wait for this product to be released or to purchase the Quad.. I’ve decided to purchase the double row 24v WS2811 120/m leds I’ve got approximately 66 meters of led to run (2x15m - 2x10m 2x6m 1x4m) “question” will the quad run this many leds and handle the power input or would I need 2x quads or should I just wait until the Octa comes out?
From a quick calculation a single Dig-Quad would be able to handle that if we use the 50% RGB white maximum values from the power sheet but it's right on the edge. I'd feel more comfortable having a Dig-Octa or 2x Dig-Quad handling that kind of power.
@@IntermitTech Awesome thanks so much for you’re recommendation! Any news when the dig-Octa will hit the market?
Still the same, hopefully somewhere next week!
@@IntermitTech I’ll hold off and purchase the Octa!
Newbie here, making a spreadsheet of what it would take to outline my house with strips in diffuser tracks. Looks like it will be easy to hit 6000 LEDs - are 3+ brainboards my best option or is there something I don't know yet?
That's a lot of LEDs but yes, sadly the ESP32 has limits in that sense. Using external LED data like from xLights you can make act like a whole though.
@@IntermitTech Thanks for the reply and answer.
is 6k a lot? (I'm really worried it's a lot, it's like 300 amps @ 5V). I know the LED count shoots up if you decide strips instead of strings, and then again when you say "may as well do 60 per meter!". a few hundred ft around the roof, trim, garage, etc, the number goes way up. I know I don't have to outline everything - I could probably cut that in half but then I'll probably want to add wreaths/trees/etc, so it'll probably climb again even if 6k was too high an estimate for just the house... However I'm waffling on every single decision (maybe I will do strings at more like 15 per meter, I have no idea ). Choice paralysis.
Curious... Since you used a USB-C, can that port take the higher power inputs of USB-C-PD?
It supports 5v up to 3Amps and will negotiate that but the powerboard itself has no facilities to drive LEDs so it's not really too useful in that regard it uses way way less power then that. :)
hello i updated to wled 13.3 and cannot use pin 5 for led channel 6, you mention changing the ethernet profile to use pin -1. does this has to be done pre compile or is there an option in the config to do this?
thx
Will this be compatible with the XLights software?
Can this be used for 12v pixels or only 5v? Many thanks looks great 👍
5v, 12v or 24v led strips or pixels, all good. You can also directly give it that voltage and it auto converts it onboard to what it needs. It doesn't do any power distribution to the LEDs though, just data. For that there are powerboards (check out the first video mentioned in the beginning).
The terminals that come with the device, are these rising clamp style terminals or are they the cheaper, less reliable, direct compression type with that never clamp properly?
All rising clamp for brainboards and powerboards, even the 7.62mm terminals. Also all with + or Philips head screw. On the previous Dig boards those where inpractical in regards to size but for this new system I reevaluated everything and went with what would be the best fit for that!
54.9$ to ship to france 😅(brainboard + power 7 TTC : 122.39$). I pay little less than 50% of the total price into taxes/ shipping 😥
Ouch, yeah, I checked and for me to NL it's $21,55 in tax and $35,15 in shipping. The tax we can't do much about but the shipping costs we are working on but it's hard when you can't use Aliexpress shipping and such, especially for the Dig-Octa System it being heavy and fairly big it's certainly not cheap. We are looking into various other ways to lower these costs, be that lower shipping costs or local EU sales in the future, apologies for that!
@@IntermitTech thanks for your reply, I hope you can find another way to deliver because your product seems really amazing. I will try to find some alternative to dig-octa system but if I don't i will pay...
Somebody please correct me if I am wrong; To be able to play a light show sync'ed with audio, using the Dig-Octa, I will need...
A) To use xLight to created the show
B) save the show to a SBC like the Raspberry Pi
C) connect the Pi to the Dig-Octa via Ethernet
D) connect audio out from the Pi to a PA and/or FM transmitter
E) Launch the show on the PI
I am sure I am oversimplifying this but do I have the basics?
what app/s do I need loaded on the Pi?
What else am I missing?
ruclips.net/user/liveBRDc4eD7QAc?feature=share
@@stephenmurdoch5291 I believe the part (xlights) that will be of most interest in your linked video will be from 1:35:00 onwards
Could this essentially replace a holiday coro setup?
It's a different approach to it but yes for a lot of the pixel driving duties it could.
Can I use this bords for Light spot?
Errr, will need a bit more information then that. It's meant to control addressable LED strip or strings.
does the Dig-Octa Brainboard-32-8L support music sync
It doesn't have any native capabilities such as a microphone (or pins available to hook it up) so in that sense no. But since it has Ethernet it is ideal to receive real-time LED data from LEDfx for instance! That would work fine.
@@IntermitTech Thank you for the quick response. I am a complete noob when it comes to pixels but want to jump into the hobby. I have minimal experience with the Arduino using it to control my food dehydrator, as well as a Pi using it as a retro arcade. My coding skills are very weak but want to learn. At this point I am just doing some research. My hope is to have a modest show ready for Christmas 2023. But also wanting to expand quickly after that. Sound reactive is cool and I am sure I would use it in some applications but I really want the capability of syncing a predefined show (like from xLights), to music. Would this be possible with the Dig-Octa and say a Pi? any input and/or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Oooh yes for sure, the Dig-Octa is great combined with xLights! No worries there.
Where can I get one to buy?
They'll be available end of Sept (or slightly beyond that)
Did you abandon the an-penta?
Not at all? It's been fully released in DIY form! I have plans for a pre-assembled version too but that's basically a full redesign to make it ready for manufacturing, but I have started work on it!
@@IntermitTech put me down for at least 20. I have a RUclips channel under a different name, and each of my projects with your dig uno and quad have around 50k views. I love your stuff and I will keep doing my best to spread the word! Keep it up 👍
Oh hey that awesome to hear! If you are in the Discord, shoot me a PM with the name sometime (if you are willing to share it) , always love to see! :)