A Scene from MISHIMA
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Paul Schrader’s visually stunning, collagelike portrait of the acclaimed Japanese author and playwright Yukio Mishima (played by Ken Ogata) investigates the inner turmoil and contradictions of a man who attempted the impossible task of finding harmony among self, art, and society.
MISHIMA is available on Criterion Blu-ray 22 May 2018.
the only time a closeup of the ignition turn was not followed by a car bomb
I mean, considering what we know to happen next, it technically was a car bomb; just delayed by an hour and a lot less bits in the deaths.
lmao my first thought when i saw that was "this car bout to blow up"
it's interesting they did that. it's obvious they were trying to trigger the association with a car bomb.
lmao, had me wincing in anticipation of the explosion
Glad I'm not the only one that were expecting the car to explode.
Masterpiece, surely one of the best ten films of the last 50 years. This scene shows how unbelievably good was Ken Ogata's work in this movie: after discussing the details of an inminent ritual suicide and severely giving instructions to his cadets, his frank, affectionate and nonchalant smile shows his serenity and determination before sacrifice. Ogata's acting perfectly embodies the magnetism and power of Mishima's personality.
So true!a great man i feel sad for his tragica ending...unnecessary
Is this depiction faithful to the actual events or is it a crafted depiction of what the author imagined?
I believe this to be a legitimate question of any biographical rendition of actual lives.
Fact or fiction?
Well said! .......R.I.P OGATA KEN - San.... Our respect to you, from Girisha (Greece).... the beloved country of Yukio Mishima, and current country of my old Japanese language teacher, Mrs Motoki (..married to a Greek guy) who was Morita's classmate in the University, back in the late '60s! As for Coppola , and Lucas, who were also, behind this masterpiece, them too, are of partial Greek origins, as well! The world is indeed a small place!
I had no idea there was a biopic about Yukio Mishima. Im gonna watch it now
"Sometimes it's easier to die, than live ".
This is a criminally underrated film.
Ken Ogata is amazing
Underrated masterpiece
movie is good but mishima was fuckin asshole
@@asd-qp4yi >korean
@@asd-qp4yi yeah thats the reason this movie is so interesting
Great movie, needs a lot more love
Love this film but do wish it'd get an updated translation finally that better respected the details of Cheiko Schrader's work (for which she receives far too little credit). All mention of Mishima's aristocratic heritage is dropped in the current translation which makes his turn to the bushido stuff later in life come off as a narcissistic and eccentric move rather than the pursuit of the ideals of his overbearing grandmother. He's already interpreted too often as a vacuous goofball rather than a man twisted by the trauma of the society he grew up in. To me it's pretty clear (maybe less so from the film alone) that Mishima's death was not only artistic spectacle in a shallow, aesthetic sense but the metamorphosis into art of his repayment of a perceived debt to the emperor for dodging the war draft and the time it had granted him. His valorisation of the youthful male form in death was no doubt intensified by the loss of so other young men his age in the war, again to the emperor. It's no wonder he desired for the status of that emperor to mean something after his sacredness was stripped by the occupying western influence. Survivor's guilt, in other words.
Fascinating
@@stevensmith1031 Several of Schrader's films are about men whose misplaced allegiance in an imperial state, usually America, leads to betrayal or causes them trauma. Schrader implies the real-life story of Mishima to be in a similar vein.
i love those uniforms
Yeah they look cool. Like the Nazi’s. It’s a transgression of a sort to admire the aesthetic appeal of Nazi uniforms and memorabilia. Probably deservedly. Such are our mores.
I have that japanese uniforms
Banzai with style.
Looks ridiculous to me. It has the brown color of Imperial Japanese Army of WW1, the front button panel mimicks French grenadier/18th century style uniform commonly used by marching band members, and the peaked cap is obviously US pattern.
He's going to his death in a small Toyota. My mum looked at one like this in 1968 (in Australia) before buying a Mazda 1500.
楯の会の 制服も なかなか凝っている
Great film but Mishima would have HATED this casting, the actor looks older than Mishima did at the time and Mishima was a huge narcisist
He should be, he was nothing but greatness on legs.
@@om3g4z3r0 Went out like a moron though.
@@thetankhunter100 Every lasagna ends in the toilet, it doesn't invalidate its greatness.
@@om3g4z3r0 Just saying.
@@om3g4z3r0 Did you just compare Mishima with a lasagna lmao, anyways no matter how great a person is in reality, nobody should be a narcissist.
Criminally undertaken film
Yukio Mishima,the great pureness on this planet ever existed.
If people had only listened to Mishima, Japan would have a new and more effective Kempetai today, and no democracy at all. Sad.
@@LTrotsky21stCentury democracy are trash after all
Yeah, no
Great writer though
He didn't want them to commit hari-kiri because he didn't want to share the glory with anyone.
There is NO way Jack Nicholson should have gotten best actor over Ken ogata that year!
Strange youtube recommendation but I'll take it, looks like an interesting movie :)
I thought the car gonna go boom
Their uniforms look like five star hotel's lobby employees!
@John Osman Quadrophenia moment
They look like Bellhops
80s Japan was more modern then 2020s world
Mishima was way before the 80s
70s, literally 1970
The Greatest burger-film of the 80s.
When your military LARPing goes way way way too far.
Cope muttblood cope
i must watch this movie.
You should, ignore the crazies in this thread. Also, read Spring Snow before Runaway Horses.
Great score.
I wonder how we would view this film if it was the same story during the same time, but set in Germany.
first choose a german equivalent to yukio mishima.
@@spencerhopkinson9874 Johan Mischiman
well yeah, but if you have to create a fictional equivalent to a real person for a biopic, that defeats the point@@MarkArandjus
@@spencerhopkinson9874 I wasn't being serious, dude xD
But now I will be: obviously Yukio Mishima is a fairly unique individual and Japan is a fairly unique country, so it's not like every country has a Mishima analogue, but that's besides the point. The point is that partially because how good the film is and partially because of the foreign context, a lot of people see the story of Mishima as inspirational and overlook the fact that ultimately he was a fascist dork.
Were we to adapt the story to a setting and cultural context people in the West are familiar with (like Germany) it'd be likely received as a story of a talented artist that went down this path of neofascism and threw his life away. Not as an inspiration. He threw his life away for nothing, failed so miserably that people literally laughed at him. The Jan 6 MAGA morons had more success than he did.
Mishima as a political activist was a far right fanatic trying to restore the emperor. Imagine a British analogue where in England some closeted gay bodybuilder civilian started following the chivalric code then dressed up in a uniform and delivered a speech how we need to restore the British monarch to their former authority as the supreme sovereign anointed by god. We'd all rightfully call that person a nut.
He was a complex and fascinating person that deserves investigation, and his writing was beautiful, but politically he should not be idolized. We should be happy his little cult failed. He wasn't genocidal or anything but that's what empires and authoritarian governments inevitably lead to. Imperial Japan massacred many MILLIONS of people during WW2 and oppressed its own population as well. It was a regime that without exaggeration makes the Nazis look mild.
Sorry for the long reply, but I wanted to make my point and positions clear. Cheers!
If we can stand to admire Che Guevara (for example) in a biopic, than we can do the same for Mishima. If you can agree that neither type should be idolized, then sure. Indeed, evil is what empires and authoritarians do. We see that demonstrated by Imperial Japan, the Soviet Chekists, etc. The truth is they all belong in the same grave. The end.@@MarkArandjus
三上博史と徳井優が若い❗️
I have two key issues with this movie:
1. Ken Otaga did not at all capture the essence of Mishima. I often find myself asking, “where is Mishima?” when watching the movie.
2. The dialogues involving Mishima lacks the fluidity and sense of lyricism mixed with barely disguised pomposity that Mishima naturally exhibits in his speech.
He is true samurai！
Is this depiction faithful to the actual events or is it a crafted depiction of what the author imagined?
I believe this to be a legitimate question of any biographical rendition of actual lives.
Fact or fiction?
This is definitely not a "realistic" biographical movie, but a highly stylized allegorical interpretation of Mishima's life.
ruclips.net/video/eEjnhOsTsMo/видео.html
Sorry bud, Yukio Mishima himself is the embodiment of blurring real life with fiction. Rest assured the film director took a careful and safe approach, adding pretty much nothing excessive to it. You can say it almost feel a carefully thought out tweet to avoid offending anyone type of approach.
@@distinctloafer good point. Mishima was a figment of his own imagination.
The question I have has more to do with the director’s choice to show Mishima sagaciously mentoring school-boyish adherents (scene in the car) that showed a gentle fatherly persona that I doubt very much was anything Mishima would have shown. It’s as if the producers wanted to make the hard-ass, self-engrossed Mishima comport more to the image modern Japanese likes to promote - wishful thinking if you will.
It’s as if a bio of Jeffrey Dahmer has him urging young boys to be good to animals and be vegetarians.
Nah, that Mishima car scene was laughable to the point of absurdity.
@@davidlang1125 Hmm I personally don't see any significance of the car scene, even if it wasn't like that, anything that would work is good in my book, it just need to fill in the gaps between the story. Wishful thinking? Not needed, he is already such a controversial character.. also I don't see anything out of line, he is the leader after all. Those words he said in the car, even isn't spoken on that day, it is surely what the director extracted from the intensive study of Mishima's life and work.
@@davidlang1125 Your likening of Mishima to Jeffrey Dahmer shows how little you know of Mishima. Imagine trying to pigeonhole such a distinguished man.
thumbnail made me think they just had green dog collars on
Superb critically acclaimed crime movie
Boy was he brilliant but at the same time engrossingly delusional at the same time.
Someone gets it
嫁です
緒方拳さん素敵ですね
亡くなられて何年でしょうか
残念です、人間の生命力を恨みたい
(皆順番とはいえ)
Beautified megalomaniac.
Cope harder indoctrinate
Unlike Trump, Mishima had a brain
Long time mishima stay in city of nagasaki
False gods demand human sacrifices.
Farmers of the same race had been competing for rice fields and killed each other in the closed island for 2000 years. It's deeply linked to the religion of sacrificing for false gods.
Maybe true gods too.
Just a regular WW2 Sold-
0:13 Hold on a minute. A Late 1960s car?
The events in this scene took place in November 1970.
2:12何で多摩number❓
The actor in the right back seat ... why in later days he play as shitty character all the time ? ... lol
Who is the actor in the middle?
og cosplayer.
助手席って車の席ではいちばんの末席じゃん。
is this propaganda movie ??
Which Yukio Mishima movie is better to watch ??
Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters 1985 (USA)
or
11:25 The Day He Chose His Own Fate 2012 (Japan)
It's not propaganda, it's just his life
no it doesnt glorify what he did
No, it's pretty accurate. Any Japanese movie wouldn't even admit he was gay.
centuries of militant discipline, strict ethical codes and rampant sexual deviance leads to all kinds of personalities that pop and bang and fizz with bizarre quirks and qualms. Not one ounce of surprise here with a subject who demanded life obey him in every impossible way.
@BADSPOCK Lol, we don't? We surely have a lot of problems in the west, especially the authoritarian way that democracy and free-market individualism should be seen as the pinnacle of society.
@BADSPOCK lol say that to liberals who scream and attack you for not agreeing with them
@BADSPOCK sarcasm doesn't translate well when it's typed.
So a great writer but also a crazy man
Not crazy, Great man
@@alexmag342 crazy
@@alexmag342 Oh he was nuts, maybe you are too
Pools
Nuts.
I agree. No matter how his fans dress it up the fact remains that his death was futile, pointless and absurd.
@@tadghsmith1457 "Futile", we will see
三島由紀夫ってよくこんな恥ずかしい格好してたよね。まあ信念を貫いたけどね。
What is this ?
story of Yukio Mishima, a famous modern writer, after WW2 did not like the direction japan was heading, tried to change it. he was gay, wrote terrific hetero love stories.
He was not gay, he had 2 children. Though not completely straight, either. @@cliffdariff74
He was a crazy man!
Better crazy, then a coward.
He was a king
crazy dude
#KultOfV8
自分が目立ちたい人だったと認識しています。
病気故に出征できなかった先生にとってあの場が戦い死ぬだったのかもしれない。
#hauwech
mmmm they look shirtless
日本！
Tmh
camera work is horrible.
phenomenal camera work
Cool uniforms.Yeah like the Nazi’s. It’s a transgression of a sort to admit the aesthetic appeal of Nazi uniforms and memorabilia. Probably deservedly. Such are our mores.
Perhaps part of the attraction is precisely because it’s considered off-limit.
Praise Prussia's designs, not the NSDAP's.
@@drlca6601 interesting! tell me more!
these look nothing like nazi uniforms. they look like the outfit you put on a pet monkey.
@@glassarthouse it’s not the superficial comparison to Nazi uniforms but rather the aesthetic choices made by right wing Japanese militias during the thirties and forties that glorified militarism.
Your mind has been utterly destroyed it is probably best to just end things...
大日本帝国海軍
1:13 Your girlfriend was ashamed to have a boyfriend like you
Cry harder, soyboy
Lol yeah, gay fascists are such wonderful figures to make movies about
Gay??mishima was married
@@paolotondo2463 in this case, Mishima was indeed known for his homosexual relationship with drag queen Akihiko Maruyama. He also stated that he was enchanted with the men beauty when they danced as women in Kabuki theater.
@@introvertdude842 i don t know this...thanks
As if a great life sacrificed for ideals could be reduced to sexuality, and so should never be portrayed as it was, and in its respectable moments.
Doesn't matter how reprehensible we find their character, if their lives were interesting they should have movies made of them... And Mishima led one hell of an interesting life.
The absurd end of the life of the confused, over rated author and mediocre man Yukio Mishima. Which of the little pretty boys was his homosexual partner or were they all gay artists finding harmony with society too? What utter tosh is spoken about this man's books and plays. A drama queen but not an artist seeking harmony with society.
What a mediocre comment, congratulations. As an artist and as a man, he was an incomparable genius
What a small shrivelled soul. Must be a communist.
Big Cope, shekel indoctrinate
At least that felt honest. The asslickers are worse that the ones that dream of sucking off Elon Musk