Browning T-Bolt .17HMR video review and improvements

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  • Опубликовано: 8 окт 2024
  • After owning the Browning T-Bolt .17HMR for quite awhile it was time to improve it or move it on. I show how I believe you can make a good rifle far better

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  • @bro031
    @bro031 7 лет назад +3

    I loved the 17hmr that I had years ago is was the Ruger 96 lever action 17hmr with the rotary magazine a good reliable rifle never let me down great on rabbits and alike and I mainly used the hornady and federal ammo.

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  7 лет назад

      Yes mate they are a great little caliber when you have some good ammo.

  • @chrisjohnson38
    @chrisjohnson38 7 лет назад +1

    I love my 17 hmr, I bought just a cheap little set-up, a savage 93 with a 3_9 x40 nikko nighteater, used with the hornady 17 grain ballistic tips it's a tack driver, absolute medicine on bunnies and foxes.

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  7 лет назад

      If it works for you that is all that matters.

    • @timhickey9898
      @timhickey9898 7 лет назад +1

      I have the same rifle and I have had a lot of issues with misfires and sometimes not extracting spent shells.Have you had any of these problems?

  • @Dwyer88
    @Dwyer88 Год назад +1

    Great review my friend. I have both the 22 LR & Mag both in the high grade maple. I love them but I do agree with you on the trigger. I recently purchased a 20oz Jard trigger but haven’t had time to install yet. With that being said I am a bit of browning guy myself mainly bought the pair cause they were unique to me. I haven’t shot them much I mainly use my SA22 that I got in 22LR it’s a little easier for me to scratch and not be upset lol.

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  Год назад +1

      Cheers mate. Sounds like you have some nice bang sticks there. The Jard trigger is a bit fiddly to fit so take your time and be in the right frame of mind when doing it. Thanks for watching.

    • @Dwyer88
      @Dwyer88 Год назад

      @@BoltActionProductions will do my friend thanks for the advice!

  • @leboucdetrambly
    @leboucdetrambly 5 лет назад +1

    Good review thanks. I have a Sako Quad in 22lr - I tried the 17hmr but just find them too wind prone and too expensive. I chose a 204 Ruger as a replacement. That is a flat trajectory round.
    Like what you did with the oil finish. I could never do a quality rubber pad finish like you did so well done there.
    Yes I like your rifle but that trigger group upgrade makes the rifle expensive.
    On my Quad I replaced the plastic trigger guard for a metal one.

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  5 лет назад

      What you say has a lot of merit. I have a love hate relationship with the .17HMR. A lot of that is because of how much I had to do to my T-Bolt to get it where it suited me. I have a Sako 85 in a .204 and I certainly enjoy that caliber. Thanks for watching mate

    • @leboucdetrambly
      @leboucdetrambly 5 лет назад +1

      @@BoltActionProductions Sako 85 and 204 Ruger then I think you are suitably kitted up for most things and the 85 has a great operating bolt. Good hunting.

  • @dps6198
    @dps6198 5 лет назад +1

    I ordered one in .22WMR that I'll take delivery tomorrow. it'll have a 3-9x40 Leupold Rimffire MOA reticle with Talley Manufacturing mounts.

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  5 лет назад

      Should be a good rig mate. Enjoy👍. One bit of advise. Avoid dry firing them.

    • @LVang152
      @LVang152 5 лет назад

      I shoot Leupold VX II 3-9x40 with my 22lr. At the range or small hunting is right on target. I set to shoot at 25 yard. If I need to shoot 50 yard, I just hold 2 moa above (without hold left or right).

  • @LVang152
    @LVang152 5 лет назад +1

    I don't have issue with both 22lr and 17hmr. I do small game hunting in the middle of winter and shoot great. I set to shoot about 25 yards and if I need to shoot farther then just hold 2 moa high for 50 yard. I don't need to hold left or right with the current ammo I'm using to shoot further.

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  5 лет назад

      Great to hear that they are working well for you mate. Thanks for watching

  • @johnrudd9212
    @johnrudd9212 4 года назад +1

    Hi,
    Love your videos and banter the clarity and presentation are first class. Was wondering what oil you use to maintained the appearance of your wooden stock rifles etc. Am thinking of getting a tikka with a wooden stock but have seen a few where the stock has deteriorated quite markedly. Your thoughts would be appreciated.

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  4 года назад

      Cheers John. Glad you enjoy our videos. Majority of my rifles are workhorses so I keep the exterior maintenance to a minimum. Simple and practical has always worked for me. After cleaning my rifle barrels I usually give the stocks a wipe down with an oily rag before storage. Using something that you always have on hand is the key for me. Nothing wrong with a bit of WD40 or anything similar, as long as it is done regularly. Of late I have been putting all my rifles in silicon socks. I often give these socks a light spray of WD40 and turn them inside out every few months.

  • @tedbower685
    @tedbower685 7 лет назад +1

    I tried the 17hmr wasn't impressed ammo is expensive. So i went for a 17hornady hornet way better and reloadable.
    great videos very entertaining

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  7 лет назад

      Cheers mate. I too have a little bit of a love hate relationship with the HMR and probably more so with the ammo. Especially early on when I first bought the rifle.

    • @jarrodhartley9575
      @jarrodhartley9575 7 лет назад +1

      ted bower the prices of 17hmr can be a hit and miss depending on where you are, my local shop is selling Winchester VMAX for $20 a box at the moment and around $22 for Hornady VMAX. If you compare to 22lr it seems pretty expensive. Although compared to some Rimfires and most centrefires it's still relativity cheap shooting.

    • @tedbower685
      @tedbower685 7 лет назад

      I have a .17hornady much better and i can reload it

    • @bonnivilleblackcherry9745
      @bonnivilleblackcherry9745 7 лет назад

      but your comparing a 17 cal centrefire with a rimfire. apples and oranges. like comparing a 17 cal pellet gun to a 17 centrefire

  • @thomascarpenter7415
    @thomascarpenter7415 4 года назад +2

    Nice looking rifle !

  • @ukwan
    @ukwan 3 года назад +1

    Interesting you've modified your Browning T Bolt in 17HMR to an oil finish, longer length of pull and a jard trigger I am in the exact same process with mine, these faults are screamingly obvious with this rifle. If it came with those things sorted it would be an absolute gem. Living in the UK it's not easy to change a rifle once you've bought it so I'm working on mine currently to improve it.

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  3 года назад +1

      G'day James. For me it is not worth owning a rifle if it has flaws and doesn't function how I require it to. So the trigger and length of pull were a given with the change from a lacquered finish to oil not a necessity but something I prefer. If the positives didn't outweigh the negatives I wouldn't have spent the time on the rifle and I would have moved it on. It is a supremely accurate little rifle with selected ammo and bolt/magazine system works flawlessly fast. So it was worth spending the time on it. The cost of the trigger was the only thing I pondered for some time. I hope yours works out well. Thanks for watching mate.

  • @TheKlixer
    @TheKlixer 6 лет назад +3

    For those complaining about the trigger, it really is not that bad, just needs getting used to. Its a little heavy but there is absolutely nothing wrong with that when your hunting, and it breaks cleanly. I purchased this rifle in the Target Varmint in WMR mainly to hunt. Its accurate, light, dependable, fast, beautifully engineered and if you really, really need to have a lighter trigger, then buy a J.A.R.D drop in. Nobody complains about having to totally revamp the Ruger 10/22, but everyone owns one and everyone mods them. Simply put if your deciding factor on buying this rifle is the trigger? Then I'm afraid you missed out on a fabulous rifle.

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  6 лет назад

      The T-Bolt is a very nice little rifle but if like myself you have fired thousands of rounds through it you will start to see areas in which it lacks. Trigger reliability will become one of these issues. IMO and experience there are certain parts on a rifle that should really never have plastic or composite components. The trigger is especially one of these. Yes the standard trigger is reasonably heavy but fairly crisp as you mention. This is how they start off and many will be fine. Never dry fire these little rifles as that will also lead to issues as it can often do with many rimfires. Overall as I mentioned they are a good rifle but the trigger is where they are let down. Many rifles have triggers that can easily be modified to vastly improve them. Sadly the T-Bolt is not one of these which makes it an expensive upgrade if and when you want to improve the trigger long term reliability and performance. Getting use to a trigger is ok for some but adjusting your trigger to your individual shooting requirements usually has far better results. I am glad you are happy with yours and hopefully with many thousands of rounds down the barrel it will still be going strong. The new Tikka T1X is an example of how a trigger system is far superior, consistent and reliable in comparison. As is the Sako Quad that I mentioned.
      Add all this to a sporter stock that is really designed for a kids or smaller adults this rifle will not suit majority. To get the best out of any gun you should never get used to it but preferably adjust it to suit your needs. Adjustment of this rifle to get the best from it is far more expensive than the others I mentioned.
      Thanks for your input as I do appreciate all feedback.

    • @Tilpants
      @Tilpants 6 лет назад

      Bolt-Action Productions have put hands on a T1x?

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  6 лет назад

      No. Not as yet

    • @Tilpants
      @Tilpants 6 лет назад

      Bolt-Action Productions No worries. I'm keen to get my hands on one as they seem like theh could be a great thing. I've been told they could be 1 or 2 months away in .17hmr and maybe not til next year on the 22lr. Might have to get a cz if I can't wait that long.

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  6 лет назад

      Clayton Tilbrook. I would be very surprised if they are not a good thing. Looking forward to getting my hands on one to have a play.

  • @GdaySport
    @GdaySport 6 лет назад +1

    I went for the CZ455 over this rifle just because of the trigger. Shame, because I really liked the straight pull bolt.

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  6 лет назад

      Very understandable and good decision. A couple of the boys have the CZ in .17HMR and they shoot well and function just as good. Trigger is also very easy to improve with minor modifications and adjustments. It should serve you well.

  • @chenderson4969
    @chenderson4969 4 года назад +1

    Looking at doing a bit of a stock resto on an old 22 I own robbo, how did you go about stripping the varnish out of the chequering mate? That’s the only part I’m most concerned about! Hope you’re well and can get out up the high country soon.

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  4 года назад +1

      I just used conventional paint stripper for the whole stock using a stiff tooth brush in the checkering. In some parts of the checkering I had to use a small wire bronze brush about the size of a toothbrush. Just don't be in a hurry and let the stripper do its job.

    • @chenderson4969
      @chenderson4969 4 года назад +1

      Bolt-Action Productions cheers robbo!

  • @TOECUTTER876
    @TOECUTTER876 8 лет назад +1

    Absolutely love the 17hmr caliber ,the ballistic hornady bullets are devastating on rabbits and pretty handy on foxes also. I looked at alot of 17hmr before purchasing the weihrauch ,now I have 3 weihrauchs all fitted with zeiss scopes,a beautiful combination.My only disappointment is they only make them to 222 ,for the price very well made but a little heavy due to the Turkish walnut stocks, any good review.

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  8 лет назад

      They do make nice rifles. I have a HW97 which is a bit of fun albeit a bit heavy.

    • @jamo78s3
      @jamo78s3 4 года назад

      I have the hw60 .22lr with a 14 inch barrel I don't find all that accurate I've tried loads of different ammo. Which ammo do you find works well for you?

    • @TOECUTTER876
      @TOECUTTER876 4 года назад

      @@jamo78s3 hi Jamo ,I dont have a 22, I've got the 17hmr ,22 hornet and the 222 but it should shoot any commercial rim fire bullets .I would check the clearance under barrel ,make sure when its getting warm through use ,you have clearance ,not binding ,check the action bolts are to right torque .Sorry cant remember what it supposed to be ,I think its on the website .
      Hope it helps .

    • @jamo78s3
      @jamo78s3 4 года назад

      Thanks toe I will check it when I receive it back. I sent it to a gun Smith to have the crown checked. According to hull cartridge they never sold any under 16 inch barrel and screw cut. A well known company bought a lot of them for a good price and did the work. So hull suggested getting the crown checked first.

  • @wildmanjeff42
    @wildmanjeff42 3 года назад +1

    very nice

  • @bonnivilleblackcherry9745
    @bonnivilleblackcherry9745 7 лет назад

    the sporter does have a shoter lop..i have been researching .22lr/17hmr now for awhile and its come down to the t-bolt and a ruger 10/22. talking to people on fb pages the fine line between the better of the two becomes muddled so im starting to believe brand bias is a part of it. I shot a savage axis in 243 owned by a friend of a friend if i based my opinion on that experience it was a pos...several mths later i shot the same model owned by a friend of the same friend and id buy one once I fulfill my other caliber needs first...the first one I shot was not looked after at all. left in the bed of his truck for days...run a wire brush through it was his idea of cleaning it...thought stainless would not corrode. lol

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  7 лет назад

      Very true mate. I have access to both the Heavy Barrel Varmint version of the T-Bolt and my Sporter weight of the same rifle and I would say the stock design is better on the Heavy Barrel version. The raised comb is better and the overall weight of the heavy barrel version is not what I would class as a heavy rifle. As I mentioned the trigger is where the T-Bolt is let down IMO but if you are happy with a crisp but heavier trigger then the rifle will do everything you want it to do and accurately. As mentioned in the video I do know of a few people that have owned the T-Bolt in 22 caliber and have had some issues with the magazine feed. I am not sure whether this is an isolated issue but it could be of concern.

  • @kanemallia536
    @kanemallia536 3 года назад +1

    Hi Robbo what ammo do you use through your tbolt I just bought one and any advice we’re to start would be appreciated

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  3 года назад

      I now use the Hornady 17gr ammo. It seems accurate enough but we have had quite a variety of velocity variations between batches of ammo.

  • @user-mt4vo4ey5n
    @user-mt4vo4ey5n 6 лет назад +1

    This rifle needs a grind to fit recoil pad. The oil finish does look good.

  • @ErwannIV
    @ErwannIV Год назад +1

    I just got one, i try to set the optic but keep shooting left

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  Год назад

      I’m sure you’ll work it out and get it shooting well in no time👌. Enjoy 👍👍

    • @ErwannIV
      @ErwannIV Год назад

      i guess i need to set the optic correctly. How did you settle it because it is hard to see impacts on targets?@@BoltActionProductions

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  Год назад

      @@ErwannIV have a break and walk up and check where you are hitting on your target. Adjust accordingly and repeat the process until you get it zeroed 👌👌

    • @ErwannIV
      @ErwannIV Год назад +1

      yes plus i will try very close then put more distance, usually i set my optics quickly@@BoltActionProductions

  • @lmj2783
    @lmj2783 7 лет назад +1

    fantastic little gun and calibre but you are right the length of pull is rubbish

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  7 лет назад

      By the time you change the pad and replace the trigger they are a good rifle but the cost associated with this makes them not the best option IMO.

  • @jasonoconnor9446
    @jasonoconnor9446 4 года назад +1

    Thoughts on the Lithgow 101?

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  4 года назад

      Jason I wish I could help you but I have had no first hand experience with this rifle. It may pay to check out these videos on Ozzie Reviews if you haven't seen them already. Have a great Xmas.
      ruclips.net/video/rjUOnwq9viM/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/ltuituy2ttU/видео.html

  • @timhickey9898
    @timhickey9898 7 лет назад

    What are the problems with the ammo that you mentioned.I have the savage varmint and it has misfired since new and I am very unimpressed with it and want to sell it for a better rifle.Any suggestions?

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  7 лет назад +1

      Early Winchester Supremes were misfiring and some would half fire and stick in the rifling near the chamber. Many had split necks and we still get the odd one of these but not as many since we swapped to Hornady. Many misfires with any rifle are often associated with the cleanliness of the rifles bolt. It is worth stripping the bolt and using a solvent to clean it out completely. Also worth cleaning the rear of the chamber where the bolt face makes contact/ headspace. As I mentioned in the video if I were to buy again I would probably buy the Sako Quad synthetic blued sporter.

    • @timhickey9898
      @timhickey9898 7 лет назад +1

      Bolt-Action Productions Thank you very much for your reply. Very helpful

  • @kanemallia536
    @kanemallia536 3 года назад +1

    We’re did you get your trigger from

  • @dannywarren1549
    @dannywarren1549 5 лет назад +1

    I have the same gun in 22 mag,,, and the trigger is a bitch,,, hence why im looking and found your video,,,, im thinking about the trigger upgrade as well,,,, are you happy with the rifles performance now after the new trigger install ?.

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  5 лет назад

      The replacement trigger by Jard is very good but also a bit tricky to setup. The T-Bolt has always been extremely accurate with the magazine system functioning flawlessly. One thing to note: Avoid dry firing as this will lead to trigger issues

    • @dannywarren1549
      @dannywarren1549 5 лет назад

      @@BoltActionProductions so dont dry fire with the jard trigger or the original trigger ?

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  5 лет назад

      Both. Keep a few spent cases to use while adjusting

    • @dannywarren1549
      @dannywarren1549 5 лет назад

      @@BoltActionProductions do what draw oz trigger did you go for

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  5 лет назад

      Danny Warren. I am pretty sure it was the 16

  • @bassiclogic
    @bassiclogic 5 лет назад +1

    Anyone who needs a lighter trigger you described is not a serious shooter! If you can not shoot with a 3-4 pound trigger, you aren't a good shooter! Don't blame the trigger, just blame yourself! I have the same firearm and with the stock trigger I can hit a target quarter at hundred yards! I don't know what your problem is. That's your problem and not mine! This firearm is not designed for a 200 yard range! I can not believe you would customize the rifle pad ! What did it hurt your shoulder firing this small caliber .17? You are really starting to amuse me!

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  5 лет назад +5

      Thanks for your input Michael, we aim to amuse or be amused. One of the two and sometimes both. Your input is valued for what it is. Triggers are a personal thing and if you are happy with a heavier trigger that is fine. I don't believe I am the first to suggest the trigger is the weak link on this rifle. I personally like to keep my trigger weights similar on all my rifles and in this case it was heavier than the average of the majority. The pad was changed on the rifle purely to increase the overall length of pull and obviously not for recoil. I think I mentioned this in the video. IMO the .17HMR is quite capable on rabbit size targets out to 200yds if you know how to use it correctly. Thanks for watching. Hopefully we can continue to give you a chuckle.

  • @daveb6345
    @daveb6345 8 лет назад

    Nice review. Sako are way overpriced and are hit and miss with accuracy.

    • @BoltActionProductions
      @BoltActionProductions  8 лет назад +3

      Price difference isn't that great between the T-bolt and the Quad. The synthetic sporter Sako Quads that I have used have been extremely accurate. The Sako trigger is also far superior