imagine todays open court to court game for prime Barkley..Zion might have a little better vertical but CB bravado and attitude is unbeatable..man was he savage on the rim and on pizzas!!!
Congrats KM32 of 5yrs on here! I think what may go over most people's heads was how much of a freak Charles was too before his back gave out. Excellent post as usual.
Charles Barkley's fg% and 2pt fg% from 84 to 93 was Shaq like before Shaq. Only difference, Chuck was 6'4" 270. He played bigger than his height. Just imagine if he was a 7 footer. Also, if he was a gunner an attempted 25 shots a game, his average would've been jordan like easily. 60% from the floor and 25 a game in 1990, on only 15 attempts per game. He was different and I loved watching him growing up in Philly. He's my GOAT...
@@powerboatguy2308 He was ultra thick though, w/ an ultra quick 2nd hop like Rodman. When he was motivated, he was better than Karl Malone in his prime. When not (all but 5 seasons), he wasn't.
@@arsonhakobyan I agree with that, he had to rely on athleticism, that is why we was not scoring 20+ in his later career, Zion might be Barkley 2.0, a little taller, better shape
@@powerboatguy2308 Even in Barkley's inspirational season of 93, his 1st w/ Suns, when he was MVP, while his #s across the board improved from 92, when he was disgruntled w/ the 76ers, his efficiency wasn't monstrous anymore at 30, like till 28.
arguably best shooter ever 21/26 (half free throw attemp add to shots taken and made) charles one of highest point per shot ever when u add hafl free hrow to field goal attempts and divde points by real # field goals up there with mchale mullin darryl dawkins and adrian dantley.....both these teams shit coaching.....lew n jordan given all ring by refs, same as kobe n lebron n other diet jordans
The most skilled, versatile, and unique frontcourt player to have ever played basketball. As for the power forward debate: Barkley>Malone>Duncan>McHale
@@arsonhakobyan You don't win 5 championships without Hall of famers to be Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli. Both were top 5 players at their positions...It helped having hall of famer David Robinson's menacing defensive presence in the middle for 2 of those 5 titles.....I watched all their careers. Barkley didn't play with an elite point guard until he was slightly past his athletic peak when he arrived in Phoenix. Chuck, in his prime, would destroy Duncan on any day of the week. He would run the slow-footed Duncan's butt off the court.
@@matthewpersad2431 Tony Parker was a steady-good but not great point guard in my opinion. Did he threaten any assists titles? No. He was what the Spurs needed at that position for the umbrella sets that they run. He was ambidextrous, usually made decent decisions, had an okay shot, but I never felt he was a generational talent like Chris Paul, Rajon Rondo, Steve Nash, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, and that's just from his era. But it wasn't a point guard oriented offense that relied much on that. Manu Ginobili's the greatest Italian player in Spurs history, surpassed what Vinny Del Negro did, arguably the greatest flopper of his era, but he didn't have the fast twitch muscle fibers of a Kobe Bryant, to be able to take a game over. They'll both get in the HOF, but the HOFs kind of become watered down a bit in the NBA. Dennis Rodman made the HOF being statistically totally 1-dimensional. The Bulls & Pistons would have 5 less championships combined w/o him, but to me if Dennis is a HOFer, so is Horace Grant, who was just as important to the 1st 3peat as Rodman was to the 2nd.
unliek todays NBA 80s fun to watch they caled fouls when hacked psot player, they called few cahrges and no kobe bailout shots had to take some abuse if drove to hoop 70s also good call carry n travvel better in 70s bull lakers given all title by refs
Charles was unstoppable back in his sixers days
This is incredible. I always thought Phoenix Barkley was peak. This footage of him is crazy.
Best PF in history. The evaluation is simple: who is the most dominant PF in his prime?...Sir Charles Barkley. Period. Need no rings for that.
charles barkley is a beast back then
The Real Charles Barkley Before Injuries, Was Easily The Best PF That Ever Played The Game!
no such thing as positions
I tell people the same thing all the time...
Charles was so fast for his size not to mention he intimidated most players
Malone was better than Chuck as an older player, but Chuck used to destroy Malone in his prime.
They went back-&-forth at each other in their primes. It wasn't 1-sided.
This game was played on November, 30th, 1987 early 87-88 season.
imagine todays open court to court game for prime Barkley..Zion might have a little better vertical but CB bravado and attitude is unbeatable..man was he savage on the rim and on pizzas!!!
Congrats KM32 of 5yrs on here! I think what may go over most people's heads was how much of a freak Charles was too before his back gave out. Excellent post as usual.
Charles Barkley's fg% and 2pt fg% from 84 to 93 was Shaq like before Shaq. Only difference, Chuck was 6'4" 270. He played bigger than his height. Just imagine if he was a 7 footer. Also, if he was a gunner an attempted 25 shots a game, his average would've been jordan like easily. 60% from the floor and 25 a game in 1990, on only 15 attempts per game. He was different and I loved watching him growing up in Philly. He's my GOAT...
Wilt Chamberlain said that
This was peak Barkley. Not with the Suns, this!
Charles all day
KarlMalowned32 congrats on 5 years. great vid on a great match up.
Barkley is a person 😍🤩
Barkley owed malone this game & every game they played each other.
Check basketball reference head to head stats...Malone got the better of Barkley overall throughout their careers
@@tkim326 Barkley had a greater peak than Malone but Malone was better over a longer period of time.
Charles was a better young/prime PF, Malone was better older PF as Chuck got slowed with injuries.
And laziness, being out of shape & everything.
@@arsonhakobyan You don't become one of the top offensive rebounders of all time at 6'5" being lazy-lol
@@powerboatguy2308 He was ultra thick though, w/ an ultra quick 2nd hop like Rodman. When he was motivated, he was better than Karl Malone in his prime. When not (all but 5 seasons), he wasn't.
@@arsonhakobyan I agree with that, he had to rely on athleticism, that is why we was not scoring 20+ in his later career, Zion might be Barkley 2.0, a little taller, better shape
@@powerboatguy2308 Even in Barkley's inspirational season of 93, his 1st w/ Suns, when he was MVP, while his #s across the board improved from 92, when he was disgruntled w/ the 76ers, his efficiency wasn't monstrous anymore at 30, like till 28.
charles beast mode and most dominant pf ever..up against much taller carl malone and no 53 mark eaton 7.4 and all time best blocker ..
It's Karl w/ a "K."
arguably best shooter ever 21/26 (half free throw attemp add to shots taken and made) charles one of highest point per shot ever when u add hafl free hrow to field goal attempts and divde points by real # field goals up there with mchale mullin darryl dawkins and adrian dantley.....both these teams shit coaching.....lew n jordan given all ring by refs, same as kobe n lebron n other diet jordans
barkley one fo highest point per shot ever, 21-26 shots kobe n jordan nto do this.....he shoudla shot MORE amazined caoch didnt put twin towrs and him
Charles was a better player than Malone. I'll go to the grave with this opinion. Best at the power forward position I've ever seen.
barkly one of highest point per shot ever, only adrian dantley mullin arryl dawkins and mchael come close....maybe greatest shooter ever
Where Dr.j???.. is this 86-87 season? or 87-88 season??
Greg Chan this was 1987-88, this game was played November, 30th 1987
Doc retired at end of 86-87
Sir Charles and the Mailman... The best debate of who is the Best Power Forward !
Charles was better
@@blakespadaro2313 Only at his peak.
John Chester Yu Duncan the best. I’ll take Barkley then Malone . Then Garnett and Dirk
Arson Hakobyan Malone legit had everything Charles never had
Arson Hakobyan that peak was 10 years
unique power and speed and jumping coaches should have gievn him 40 shots a game coulda taken shot at wilts 50/28 season
The most skilled, versatile, and unique frontcourt player to have ever played basketball. As for the power forward debate:
Barkley>Malone>Duncan>McHale
Duncan over all of them. You don't win 5 championships by accident.
@@arsonhakobyan You don't win 5 championships without Hall of famers to be Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli. Both were top 5 players at their positions...It helped having hall of famer David Robinson's menacing defensive presence in the middle for 2 of those 5 titles.....I watched all their careers. Barkley didn't play with an elite point guard until he was slightly past his athletic peak when he arrived in Phoenix. Chuck, in his prime, would destroy Duncan on any day of the week. He would run the slow-footed Duncan's butt off the court.
@@matthewpersad2431 Tony Parker was a steady-good but not great point guard in my opinion. Did he threaten any assists titles? No. He was what the Spurs needed at that position for the umbrella sets that they run. He was ambidextrous, usually made decent decisions, had an okay shot, but I never felt he was a generational talent like Chris Paul, Rajon Rondo, Steve Nash, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, and that's just from his era. But it wasn't a point guard oriented offense that relied much on that.
Manu Ginobili's the greatest Italian player in Spurs history, surpassed what Vinny Del Negro did, arguably the greatest flopper of his era, but he didn't have the fast twitch muscle fibers of a Kobe Bryant, to be able to take a game over. They'll both get in the HOF, but the HOFs kind of become watered down a bit in the NBA. Dennis Rodman made the HOF being statistically totally 1-dimensional. The Bulls & Pistons would have 5 less championships combined w/o him, but to me if Dennis is a HOFer, so is Horace Grant, who was just as important to the 1st 3peat as Rodman was to the 2nd.
@@arsonhakobyan Ginobilli italian?, he is from Argentina
@@saturndual32 And Vinny Del Negro's from the US. I clearly meant in terms of ethnicity.
d of utah pathetic and why karl not guarding charles?
peopel jsut cant get someon huge and jumpy liek charles and darryl dawins and stanley roberts looks liek gravity not exist
unliek todays NBA 80s fun to watch they caled fouls when hacked psot player, they called few cahrges and no kobe bailout shots had to take some abuse if drove to hoop 70s also good call carry n travvel better in 70s bull lakers given all title by refs
eaton coulda been a monster if lifted n did roids n sprints
before he became a sellout,,,