You're not selling out if you genuinely believe in the product, the company/brand, and use it all the time. If I was all of sudden promoting Garmin power pedals, I would agree with you. But that's not the case. Cam
Rock solid endorsement! These pedals rock. My only negative is the battery last way longer than you expect. It is easy to forget them. On the plus side my Garmin reminds me that the battery level is getting low
I have been using Assioma for over three years and love them. I have never had an issue with them. The cleats have not been an issue for me coming from Shimano pedals.
Just got some Assioma Pro MX pedals -- they're great on and off-road! At the moment, I can't see ANY good reason for buying any other brand of PM pedals. Cheers
I’ve got the Assioma Duo recently and I have to say it’s really great. I also got used to the Look Keo system very quickly and like it more than Shimano SPD-SL.
Was just looking at the website and wondering how it would feel switching from the KEO max which ive used for over 40,000KM and love. Thank you! Might get a pair of sensors for next season - having issues with my stages PM
You know something is good when testers are using it to verify other systems. Assiama is the one people seem to use for that. I've been riding mine for years and they've been rock solid. Also, you can replace the pedal body and bearings in about ten minutes if you get everything ready before you start. If you live somewhere parts are not readily available I'd suggest buying a spare set of bearings to have on hand. Mine went three years before I changed them but I just did it, not because they failed.
I run assioma duo-shi on two bikes. Most people apart from fairly small people can do with a wider q-factor, for me the wider q-factor is an added bonus as opposed to running PM cranks with wider spindles and spacers, assioma remedies this with a single solution
I love the pedals just not the Look system. I cycle in a city and those with Look style seem to struggle into the pedals as I have as well. Once clipped in I am fine with thd Look system. It may be because of a 47 shoe and the shimano's wider clip, either way its a great pedal and they have options.
Had Stages……became unreliable, went to Assioma and never looked back! Awesome product, never let me down. In addition, I was always a Speedplay guy but found no issues with going to this type of pedal with the max float cleat. I also don’t miss the exorbitant price of replacing Speedplay cleats either - outrageous!
Interesting I have had the dura ace stages dual PM and they are so unreliable its ridiculous for $1500 CAD youd think they would be good. I often have to update and calibrate them every 2/3 weeks.
@@zacharyerskine4277 sorry to hear that. My Stages for some reason began to chew through batteries and even when the battery was new, it would just drop out sometimes never to return. I also really like the ease of transferring the pedals between bikes, no hassle or complications.
I still have plenty of years left in my spider based power meter. Maybe by the time it becomes obsolete in about 7 years, Assioma will finally upgrade USB-C and it will be 2030.
USB-C would be downgrade. A port for dirt to get into isn't something you want on a pedal. The chargers connect to metal contacts and are held in place by a magnet. A simple and elegant way of doing it.
I love my assioma pm pedals. Its just a pitty that there is not a solution for spd-sl cleats whic ar far better than the xpedo or looks. I know there is a Shi Version of the assioma. But the Q factor is just to big 😞
2 min for a power meter to connnect at the beginning of a 4 hr ride is nothing. I do like that I can use different pedal systems on my crank power meter. I dont like that my crank needs a magnet that will keep the chain hostage if its dropped. But power at the pedal is pretty sweet. I wonder how well these take a pedal clip during cornering in a race? It's cold where I live so for 7 months out of the year I ride winter boots on a SPD mtn system. Then when it warms up I switch back to my shimano road pedals.
Funny enough I did order my assiomas duo for shimano just yesterday. I hope to take advantage from extended Q factor as well cause ima big boi and wide on hips. Was even recommended longer axels on pedals from my bike fitter. Thanks Cam for making me sure that it was a right decision. I have been using two different crank based power meters on my road and cx bike. One I am really happy with the other not so much, so I just sell away the worse one and stick my assiomas on my road bike 😊
Doesnt Assioma make pedals for walkable offroad shoes? If I get powermeterpedals thay have to be offroad spd-pedals. I use XTR SPD-pedals on both my gravel and my roadbike.
Had the DUO's for a couple years, then the batteries wouldn't charge after the warranty expired. The after warranty support options suck and require you to purchase new spindles. Do yourself a favor and get Garmin pedals because batteries can be replaced and the Garmin after warranty support options are unbeatable.
Planning to buy Assioma pedals in the next couple of months. Can anyone please tell me the power measurements difference between Assioma Uno and Duo? Due to the price discrepancy, I'm considering the Uno, but do not know if it's less accurate and precise. I just know that with the Duo it's possible to know L/R ratio. Can you guys help? Thanks a lot!!
awesome video I am a big fan of speedplay but I can't justify paying for wahoo powrlink duo. I am really considering this power meter but how easy is it to clip in and unclipping on this pedal?
I use Assiomas but what cleat should I use when I need to replace, as it isn't actually a look keo cleat? This is the one major drawback on these pedals. (I know they sell spare cleats but don't want to order from Italy all the time)
I have these pedals and I am pleased with them. However, how do they compensate for the fact that they don't have Power Center Offset? Seems to me like that would be a factor for the data not being as accurate as it could be. I think I've read somewhere that they use an alternative technology, but I don't recall where that was.
I have them and they are the easiest and most convenient pedals around.They are quick to charge and are very accurate very similar to my watt bike .I have Garmin vector 3 before these are they were absolute rubbish and high maintenance.
yes, is very correct. But, baterry life time is very bad, very, very bad. Today, after sold my assiona duo, buyed 4III only side cranck. The 4iii is very cheap and poor, but, have an long, long baterry time life. Just a consideration on the best upgrade. I am consider the Di2 - Shimano 105 di2, also because it has an longer battery life than the sram, and is much lighter amount the Rival. I am use the R7000 crankset, Shimano HG Hub and which saved a lot of money. And really di2 is an evolution, my training is easier. click and change.
I am looking to buy these pedals, but the price that you showed on the video is not the right one, I just searched and the dual side is retailing for $770 USD :((
Instead of moving from my narrow-ish Q factor Sram crankset to a more preferred wider crankset, I’m just switching pedals to the duo-shi system to get roughly the same effect - wins all around!
Love my Assioma pedals, so easy to use & swap between bikes. only one complaint - i wish they would offer a mountain sytle peddle. road shoes for ultra bike packing whilst work are the best shoes for off bike activites.
They kinda/sorta do, although it is unsupported by Favero. There are plenty of RUclips videos out there about how to swap out the road body to a mtb body.
@@jackliang6061 I added Xpedo M Force 8 Ti pedals which work well with SPD cleats (my current favourites are the Silca Ti cleats which don’t wear as quickly as brass). The swop of pedal bodies is super easy and GP Lama has a video on it. I am very happy with the Assioma Duo/ M Force 8 combo.
I just bought my second set - they are top units. However, I wouldn't use them on gravel. My first set died after getting cracks in the resin, and water getting into the innards after some gravel rides.
@James - I am using them on gravel and I notice the rock strikes wearing at the pod. Was that your experience and did you try adding a crank arm boot like MTB’s sometimes add?
I'm seeing $767 (USD) for the Duo model - do you have a discount code plugged in already? Would love to know how you go the $570 price tag for the duo haha
Setting the shipping location to Australia I got $571. When I switched it to US I got $767 (both were still in USD). Perhaps it has something to do with EU VAT or import tariffs between the different countries?
@@Skamhes Very well could be. I was going to wait til Christmas to buy the pedals but the price in the video made me want to buy now haha. Thanks for checking.
Any idea how the power is measured with a pedal-power-meter? The system measures the Force over the spindle. But how does the system know the Lever Arm? When the force is perpendicular to the crank, at that point, the crank length is the same as the lever arm. That is one spot only. What about the other degrees of the turning crank, when the lever arm gets all the time a different length? So, how does the system know these parameters for getting the Lever Arm? - the DIRECTION of the force over the spindle; - the POSITION of the crank; - the ANGLE between the two. Only by knowing all these parameters the system can calculate the Lever Arm. (then, along with the Force, comes the Torque; and then, finally, along with the RPM, comes the Power) If you measure the power the other way, force * speed, the force has to be measured tangential to the circle, meaning all the time perpendicular to the crank. Does the system read the tangential force? If so, yep, the power can be read in both ways: force * speed or torque * rpm. If not, i don't understand how the system, measuring only the force over the spindle, can read the power. Any idea? Thank you & best regards! Mircea
Love my Assioma pedals! Easy, accurate, and very helpful in my case for the increased q-factor. It feels wrong to ride without them.
This is just an advert for a product. Sell out
You're not selling out if you genuinely believe in the product, the company/brand, and use it all the time. If I was all of sudden promoting Garmin power pedals, I would agree with you. But that's not the case. Cam
Rock solid endorsement! These pedals rock. My only negative is the battery last way longer than you expect. It is easy to forget them. On the plus side my Garmin reminds me that the battery level is getting low
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I have been using Assioma for over three years and love them. I have never had an issue with them. The cleats have not been an issue for me coming from Shimano pedals.
Thanks for sharing on the thread Dale! Cam
Just got some Assioma Pro MX pedals -- they're great on and off-road!
At the moment, I can't see ANY good reason for buying any other brand of PM pedals.
Cheers
I’ve got the Assioma Duo recently and I have to say it’s really great. I also got used to the Look Keo system very quickly and like it more than Shimano SPD-SL.
Thanks for sharing on the thread Jacky! Cam
prices are getting ridiculous. They are now 200 dollars more expensive.
I use the Duo’s with the Look keo grey cleat. They work really well. I don’t notice any difference clipping in from Look keo max pedals.
Was just looking at the website and wondering how it would feel switching from the KEO max which ive used for over 40,000KM and love. Thank you! Might get a pair of sensors for next season - having issues with my stages PM
You know something is good when testers are using it to verify other systems. Assiama is the one people seem to use for that. I've been riding mine for years and they've been rock solid. Also, you can replace the pedal body and bearings in about ten minutes if you get everything ready before you start. If you live somewhere parts are not readily available I'd suggest buying a spare set of bearings to have on hand. Mine went three years before I changed them but I just did it, not because they failed.
Thanks for sharing on the thread Robert.
I run assioma duo-shi on two bikes. Most people apart from fairly small people can do with a wider q-factor, for me the wider q-factor is an added bonus as opposed to running PM cranks with wider spindles and spacers, assioma remedies this with a single solution
I love the pedals just not the Look system. I cycle in a city and those with Look style seem to struggle into the pedals as I have as well. Once clipped in I am fine with thd Look system. It may be because of a 47 shoe and the shimano's wider clip, either way its a great pedal and they have options.
Had Stages……became unreliable, went to Assioma and never looked back! Awesome product, never let me down. In addition, I was always a Speedplay guy but found no issues with going to this type of pedal with the max float cleat. I also don’t miss the exorbitant price of replacing Speedplay cleats either - outrageous!
Thanks for sharing on the thread Greg! Interesting to hear. Cam
Interesting I have had the dura ace stages dual PM and they are so unreliable its ridiculous for $1500 CAD youd think they would be good. I often have to update and calibrate them every 2/3 weeks.
@@zacharyerskine4277 sorry to hear that. My Stages for some reason began to chew through batteries and even when the battery was new, it would just drop out sometimes never to return. I also really like the ease of transferring the pedals between bikes, no hassle or complications.
Love my Assioma Duos too! Glad to hear they’re the official pedal of the RCA 🎉
Good to hear Mitch! I've seriously never heard a bad thing about their pedals! Cam
I got a power meter this week, instead of the carbon wheels but already seen a change in how I ride much more convenient.
I still have plenty of years left in my spider based power meter. Maybe by the time it becomes obsolete in about 7 years, Assioma will finally upgrade USB-C and it will be 2030.
USB-C would be downgrade. A port for dirt to get into isn't something you want on a pedal. The chargers connect to metal contacts and are held in place by a magnet. A simple and elegant way of doing it.
I have been using the PowerTap P1 Dual Power pedals - can't fault them for ease of use and accuracy.
Interesting to hear, thanks for sharing on the thread Ross.
I love my assioma pm pedals. Its just a pitty that there is not a solution for spd-sl cleats whic ar far better than the xpedo or looks. I know there is a Shi Version of the assioma. But the Q factor is just to big 😞
Thanks for sharing Alain. Look Keo I assume doesn’t work for you then? Cam
Did you use the single sided or double sided ?
2 min for a power meter to connnect at the beginning of a 4 hr ride is nothing. I do like that I can use different pedal systems on my crank power meter. I dont like that my crank needs a magnet that will keep the chain hostage if its dropped. But power at the pedal is pretty sweet. I wonder how well these take a pedal clip during cornering in a race? It's cold where I live so for 7 months out of the year I ride winter boots on a SPD mtn system. Then when it warms up I switch back to my shimano road pedals.
Funny enough I did order my assiomas duo for shimano just yesterday. I hope to take advantage from extended Q factor as well cause ima big boi and wide on hips. Was even recommended longer axels on pedals from my bike fitter. Thanks Cam for making me sure that it was a right decision. I have been using two different crank based power meters on my road and cx bike. One I am really happy with the other not so much, so I just sell away the worse one and stick my assiomas on my road bike 😊
Never had any issues with my Garmin Rally pedals, they are great and accurate
Interesting to hear, thanks for sharing on the thread Keith.
+1, never have had an issue with my rally pedals
Doesnt Assioma make pedals for walkable offroad shoes? If I get powermeterpedals thay have to be offroad spd-pedals. I use XTR SPD-pedals on both my gravel and my roadbike.
Had the DUO's for a couple years, then the batteries wouldn't charge after the warranty expired. The after warranty support options suck and require you to purchase new spindles. Do yourself a favor and get Garmin pedals because batteries can be replaced and the Garmin after warranty support options are unbeatable.
Planning to buy Assioma pedals in the next couple of months. Can anyone please tell me the power measurements difference between Assioma Uno and Duo? Due to the price discrepancy, I'm considering the Uno, but do not know if it's less accurate and precise. I just know that with the Duo it's possible to know L/R ratio. Can you guys help? Thanks a lot!!
Has anyone in Australia ordered it directly from the Favero website? Do I have to pay the import tax if I purchase from an oversea website?
8 months later, and the price increase by 200USD more..
awesome video I am a big fan of speedplay but I can't justify paying for wahoo powrlink duo. I am really considering this power meter but how easy is it to clip in and unclipping on this pedal?
I use Assiomas but what cleat should I use when I need to replace, as it isn't actually a look keo cleat? This is the one major drawback on these pedals.
(I know they sell spare cleats but don't want to order from Italy all the time)
I have these pedals and I am pleased with them. However, how do they compensate for the fact that they don't have Power Center Offset? Seems to me like that would be a factor for the data not being as accurate as it could be.
I think I've read somewhere that they use an alternative technology, but I don't recall where that was.
I have my duo’s for three years, I love them, accurate consistent and can switch to other bikes. Never put a foot wrong!
I have them and they are the easiest and most convenient pedals around.They are quick to charge and are very accurate very similar to my watt bike .I have Garmin vector 3 before these are they were absolute rubbish and high maintenance.
Is the battery replaceable on the assiomapromx2?
This is all good but how would you deal with the increase in q factor by +65mm?
the shoes I"m looking at have a 9deg delta cleat, is that what I need for these pedals?
Once again Cam, you’ve delivered. I’d be interested to hear you thoughts on Assioma PM system V’s Wahoo Powerlink. Cheers🤙🚴
yes, is very correct. But, baterry life time is very bad, very, very bad. Today, after sold my assiona duo, buyed 4III only side cranck. The 4iii is very cheap and poor, but, have an long, long baterry time life. Just a consideration on the best upgrade. I am consider the Di2 - Shimano 105 di2, also because it has an longer battery life than the sram, and is much lighter amount the Rival. I am use the R7000 crankset, Shimano HG Hub and which saved a lot of money. And really di2 is an evolution, my training is easier. click and change.
I am looking to buy these pedals, but the price that you showed on the video is not the right one, I just searched and the dual side is retailing for $770 USD :((
Not sure why they were coming up as that for me when recording the screen! Apologies. Cam
@@roadcyclingacademy Thats fine! Would you have an discount code for us to buy these pedals?
@@luismarques5714 Where are you based?
@@roadcyclingacademy USA
Instead of moving from my narrow-ish Q factor Sram crankset to a more preferred wider crankset, I’m just switching pedals to the duo-shi system to get roughly the same effect - wins all around!
Would these work with my shimano cleats ?
They are „the best” because they are our sponsor and pay us money.
I have the Assioma Duos. They are awesome. I just switched my bike, and changing them to the new bike was super easy
for me for the Duo it's 800$ CAD before tax and shipping. It's too expensive.
yeah, that's more than I want to spend too, but it's still significantly less than competing dual sided power meters.
Any recommendations for uno Vs duo?
Recharging with a cable is a lot easier than replacing batteries etc
Love my Assioma pedals, so easy to use & swap between bikes.
only one complaint - i wish they would offer a mountain sytle peddle.
road shoes for ultra bike packing whilst work are the best shoes for off bike activites.
ruclips.net/video/ybAFIhKahnM/видео.html
love my pedals. Cam what's going on with the budget build?
Hopefully you've seen by now Terrill. Another few weeks away now.
Totally agree Cam, Love them!!! ❤📈💪
I spy Ascent Polaris
They need to offer spd mtb pedals.
They kinda/sorta do, although it is unsupported by Favero. There are plenty of RUclips videos out there about how to swap out the road body to a mtb body.
Yes I’ve seen this too. Looks like a good solution too
@@davekashuba4730 sure there would be a hack to make it work. But I would prefer it without the fuss
@@jackliang6061 I added Xpedo M Force 8 Ti pedals which work well with SPD cleats (my current favourites are the Silca Ti cleats which don’t wear as quickly as brass). The swop of pedal bodies is super easy and GP Lama has a video on it. I am very happy with the Assioma Duo/ M Force 8 combo.
wow that's very nice
I just bought my second set - they are top units. However, I wouldn't use them on gravel. My first set died after getting cracks in the resin, and water getting into the innards after some gravel rides.
Interesting to hear, thanks for sharing on the thread James
@James - I am using them on gravel and I notice the rock strikes wearing at the pod. Was that your experience and did you try adding a crank arm boot like MTB’s sometimes add?
Stick to Speedplays, they have power pedals now. This video is definitely a bit too much of an advert for my liking 🥴
He literally says in the first 30s that Favero are a new sponsor so what do you expect
Speedplay is now owned by Wahoo. On their website dual sided pedals are US$1000. Dual sided Assiomas are US$561 today. Price is a significant feature.
I'm seeing $767 (USD) for the Duo model - do you have a discount code plugged in already? Would love to know how you go the $570 price tag for the duo haha
Go the uno
@@jfreck I want the duo… just very interested to see how he got that price pulled up haha
Go to the Assioma website direct, that’s what was showing at my end.
Setting the shipping location to Australia I got $571. When I switched it to US I got $767 (both were still in USD). Perhaps it has something to do with EU VAT or import tariffs between the different countries?
@@Skamhes Very well could be. I was going to wait til Christmas to buy the pedals but the price in the video made me want to buy now haha. Thanks for checking.
Any idea how the power is measured with a pedal-power-meter? The system measures the Force over the spindle. But how does the system know the Lever Arm?
When the force is perpendicular to the crank, at that point, the crank length is the same as the lever arm. That is one spot only. What about the other degrees of the turning crank, when the lever arm gets all the time a different length?
So, how does the system know these parameters for getting the Lever Arm?
- the DIRECTION of the force over the spindle;
- the POSITION of the crank;
- the ANGLE between the two.
Only by knowing all these parameters the system can calculate the Lever Arm.
(then, along with the Force, comes the Torque; and then, finally, along with the RPM, comes the Power)
If you measure the power the other way, force * speed, the force has to be measured tangential to the circle, meaning all the time perpendicular to the crank. Does the system read the tangential force?
If so, yep, the power can be read in both ways: force * speed or torque * rpm.
If not, i don't understand how the system, measuring only the force over the spindle, can read the power.
Any idea?
Thank you & best regards!
Mircea
3 axis accelerometer
Terrible pedals, non-existent warranty, terrible customer service from Favero.
I would love to see an SPD version.
You can put the duo shi on shimano spds. Check the trainer road forum
They look weak