Yea. You have been getting quite a lot of press vehicles lately. But we appreciate everything we've learned from you and the brz. It's a perfect sports car completely stock and its reliable. Thanks Subaru BRZ. We will miss you.
Just want to say, I've been following your channel for about a year now. Ever since I got my first good paying job last fall, I began gearing up to get my own BRZ and watching your POV drive videos of yours (and the 2018 tS too) was some excellent motivation and eye/ear candy for me. It also feels good watching someone who understands why these cars are so good. Now I've had my 2020 BRZ Limited-PP for 2 months and I know what it's like (exactly as good as I was expecting, fantastic car). Almost never thought I'd see you selling your BRZ but I know how you feel. But with your POV videos being so awesome, I'm super excited to see what you replace it with, since that'll make for some lovely POV drive content. Keep turning and burning!
You will surely miss it, I left and came back. I agree with your comments about these cars, people who haven’t driven them long term don’t really understand just how great they are!
Thank you so much for sharing your time with the BRZ over the years! You convinced me to get one, convinced me to convert to 2017 suspension, and taught me so much about driving manual. Really sad you’re selling it but good luck with whatever comes next! Will stay tuned!
Agreed, I've had a 987.1 Boxster for 3.5 years now and its an absolute joy to drive. I think it has about 158k miles on it right now and its been more reliable than I originally thought. The only things I've had to do to it besides routine maintenance are replace the transmission mounts, top, and head unit. The gears are pretty spaced out in the base model but I don't think this is as much of an issue with the 6-speed in the S model. All this being said, I would definitely look into the Alfa 4c and F-Type V8S right now. Those F-Type V8S are going for low 30s with
Your videos were what convinced me to end up learning stick, buying a BRZ, and falling in love with it (and probably why I'll end up putting a Corsa catback on mine). Your BRZ will be missed!
I also hate having too many cars. I'd rather maintain and use a few cars thoroughly than have cars sit there and collect dust. Ironically, that is exactly what the BRZ was designed for! Lighweight RWD sports car that is fun at the track, comfortable for DD and long road trips, and can carry 4 if necessary. It's meant to replace two cars in your garage (daily driver and weekend sports car) with one. But I also know that feeling of wanting to try something new/different. Personally for me, having driven a few S2000 AP2's and ridden in some AP1's at the track, I feel they are too similar to the BRZ (especially if you have access to e85) to make that trade. Plus the prices are insane. I'd definitely consider an ND2 Miata. Haven't driven one, but being 400 lbs lighter than then BRZ and with the 90" wheelbase and open top, it's tempting. I'd also consider a Viper (2nd gen for me) or C6-Z since they'd be fun in a different way than the BRZ. Interested in seeing what you end up getting!
@@TheTopher Yeah funny how just about every man who has a car like this or a Mustang or a Camaro as soon as they get married the car is always the first to go. Why is that? Never understood it
@@richardbutton1179 A lot of moms don't like the idea of letting their child in a sports car. They usually buy a monstrously large SUV because they feel safer. Anything and everything is a threat to the child and must be dealt with and protected from. "Dylan, I know you served three years but the death trap Camaro's gotta go I'm buying a Suburban" Exact thing happened to my good friend's older brother. The wife made him sell his STI and that's four door family usable car. I'm walking if my girl ends up like that.
I dunno how you feel about nissan, but even the 370Zs can be had for pretty cheap, new ones are only $30K. Not to mention a wonderful V6. But whatever you purchase in the future I cant wait to see it!
I got my FRS for the same reason - to learn RWD. I've had it just over a year now and I'm really starting to come into my own with this car. It's always been fun, but now I feel like the bond is starting to form. I'm getting the Berk high flow catted front pipe and their axle back at my door soon. Wanted something that sounds totally stock while highway cruising but kicks things up a notch when things get spirited. After that is the OFT, but I'm taking my time to get the most out of each smile. .
The S2000 would be the next logical step if you want to continue the same driving experience as the BRZ but with the figurative volume turned up a few level. As the owner of both, the BRZ serves as a "training wheel" to the S2000. I learn the fundamentals of RWD driving and handling through the safety net of the BRZ to prepare myself to feel comfortable pushing my S2000 further. Without any driving aid, the S2000's character needs to be respected and handled with finesse at the limit of both the car and the driver... but it looks like you are well at really good level to enjoy the S to the fullest :). Good luck with sale and look forward to watching you downshift and heeltoe in your next car!
It’s scary how much of what you’re saying are my thoughts exactly. I just sold my 2014 BRZ, always wanted an S2K. Have you considered the 987 cayman? Edit: mentions the cayman at 21:30 Edit 2: lmao I also don’t want to spend more than 30. And I always am curious to wait and see what the GR86 turns out to be.
have an immaculate s2k. will be selling it soon and getting toyota version of the BRZ... curious about the new GR86/BRZ, but might not wait. was considering Porsche as well, Cayman and 997, but not willing to pay Porsche tax even I could...
Very sad for sure..... but understandable. Lovely that you even owned the car in the first place. Someone is going to be getting a very well sorted out 86👍
But if you're going to go second hand. I'd like to request a video of explaining what you do before buying the vehicle in terms of checkups and test drives...like a how to video.
Thank Corona that your used vehicle value just dropped 15%. On the plus side, any vehicle you want to replace it with will also be reduced in value 15%. If the new vehicle is more expensive than the old one, you can still make out with the crazy car pricing right now. Buddy just bought a 51K diesel loaded truck for 31K out the door after all taxes and fees... he couldn't believe a dealer accepted his offer, but they are desperate for cash.
There are some crazy deals to be had right now! Also a pretty good time to put money into the market while things are low. In 10 years I could get a GT3 😄
I think you might be making a mistake man... Just when you found the sweet spot with all the mods. Why not try to get the Estate V70R AWD for daily and keeping the BRZ for track days? Lexus is just... an SUV.
Its a wild card but I’d give the Miata a good look as well besides the S2K its probably even cheaper to maintain than the S2K since that bad boy is out of production.
Have you heard anything about longevity with uel and tune? They say keep it stock for it to not blow up, haven’t seen any vids on that. Great vids thanks!
Cheers again for the great impressions I’m looking forward to getting GT86 in Jan torn between Face lift and non Facelift, but upgrade stuff does seem minimal from 2013 compared to 2017. S2000 seems like a good choice after BRZ. I’m going Celica 7th gen-GT86-GR Supra then if funds allow R34 Skyline.
Best of luck with the new car. Do you always drive like that on a day to day basis? How much mileage? Just want to know how well the engine holds up. I know you track but what kind of oil/weight and OCI are you running in this this car?
It’s funny, my parents aren’t really car enthusiasts at all, but my dad had a red Karmann Ghia coupe when I was a kid and that’s what got me into it at an early age. After that was a string of Volvo’s, and now they have a better garage than I do 😂 minus the 850 R of course
hi, Kind of off topic but i wondered: Could you review a frs/gt86/brz Auto ? i know it's no "enthusiast" gearbox but i wondered what were your feelings about it, how it differed from the manual, the pros and cons that you would come with. Great to hear about your next car plans ! i still don't own any car but once i do, i'd probably go for a mx5 or a twin =)
How was the maintenance on when you had it? Heard boxer motors not really that reliable and not some what tough to work on. Thinking about getting one of the early year models.
If you are looking for a fun sports car that you can also daily these are one of the best options. The only thing I don't like about them is the boxer engine, I wish they just had I4.
Were you able to sell it? Do you miss it and is there a replacement coming up? I’m sure you already saw that the 2022 BRZ is awesome with that 2.4 liter. I wonder if it’s better than the nd2 Mx-5.
Unpopular opinion: I think supercars are overrated. I’d rather drive something I don’t have to worry as much about. I’ve been relieved to hand back the keys to every supercar I’ve driven for that reason lol. The only exception I’ll make is a 997.2 GT3!
@@jtland4842 If you want one new you better do it now. Japan stopped production on these babies in March apparently and not doing anymore until 2021 mid year.
Ill give you an xbox one, a ps4, and a 12 pc. Mcnugget for it
Make it a 20ct mcnugget and some szechuan sauce and you've got a deal
Facebook Marketplace in a nutshell
🙌 now we’re talking! Got any Lysol to throw in there too?
@@TheTopher Will Bounty do?
Baller
We all know how much you love the type R, go and get her lmao.
1000x this
I’m surprised he talked about the s2000 first... which is absolute awesome. Yeah we all know he loves the type r 🤩
It sounds like he is prioritizing rwd as all his suggesting were rwd
Yea. You have been getting quite a lot of press vehicles lately. But we appreciate everything we've learned from you and the brz. It's a perfect sports car completely stock and its reliable. Thanks Subaru BRZ. We will miss you.
why miss you? In 2021 or 2022 the next gen is coming out.
Just want to say, I've been following your channel for about a year now. Ever since I got my first good paying job last fall, I began gearing up to get my own BRZ and watching your POV drive videos of yours (and the 2018 tS too) was some excellent motivation and eye/ear candy for me. It also feels good watching someone who understands why these cars are so good. Now I've had my 2020 BRZ Limited-PP for 2 months and I know what it's like (exactly as good as I was expecting, fantastic car). Almost never thought I'd see you selling your BRZ but I know how you feel. But with your POV videos being so awesome, I'm super excited to see what you replace it with, since that'll make for some lovely POV drive content. Keep turning and burning!
Picking up my ice silver pp today
Nooooo nooo noooo not the brz!!! On a side note , I bought my 2017 gt86 mostly because of you..
You will surely miss it, I left and came back. I agree with your comments about these cars, people who haven’t driven them long term don’t really understand just how great they are!
Thank you so much for sharing your time with the BRZ over the years! You convinced me to get one, convinced me to convert to 2017 suspension, and taught me so much about driving manual. Really sad you’re selling it but good luck with whatever comes next! Will stay tuned!
H4WKE I’m still convinced it’s the best all-round driver’s car on the market. May get back into another one someday! A 2017+ would be sweet
@@TheTopher I'd get a 13-16 just to avoid getting that hideous new steering wheel lol
It's like saying goodbye to your good buddy. You're gonna miss him and wish him well in the future from the bottom of your heart.
Really gonna miss the BRZ! I've been wanting to save up for one for a long time. Hopefully this one goes out to a good owner :)
Can’t recommend a Cayman highly enough!
Agreed, I've had a 987.1 Boxster for 3.5 years now and its an absolute joy to drive. I think it has about 158k miles on it right now and its been more reliable than I originally thought. The only things I've had to do to it besides routine maintenance are replace the transmission mounts, top, and head unit. The gears are pretty spaced out in the base model but I don't think this is as much of an issue with the 6-speed in the S model.
All this being said, I would definitely look into the Alfa 4c and F-Type V8S right now. Those F-Type V8S are going for low 30s with
Dude great driving as always notice his downshifts and all
Your videos were what convinced me to end up learning stick, buying a BRZ, and falling in love with it (and probably why I'll end up putting a Corsa catback on mine). Your BRZ will be missed!
Sad to see the BRZ go. You and this car was one of the reasons why I fell in love with the twins before I even owned one.
Man I wish I had the money for this thing. It's spectacular and you know exactly how the previous owner drove it haha
Hilton Schliemann sideways!
I also hate having too many cars. I'd rather maintain and use a few cars thoroughly than have cars sit there and collect dust. Ironically, that is exactly what the BRZ was designed for! Lighweight RWD sports car that is fun at the track, comfortable for DD and long road trips, and can carry 4 if necessary. It's meant to replace two cars in your garage (daily driver and weekend sports car) with one.
But I also know that feeling of wanting to try something new/different. Personally for me, having driven a few S2000 AP2's and ridden in some AP1's at the track, I feel they are too similar to the BRZ (especially if you have access to e85) to make that trade. Plus the prices are insane. I'd definitely consider an ND2 Miata. Haven't driven one, but being 400 lbs lighter than then BRZ and with the 90" wheelbase and open top, it's tempting. I'd also consider a Viper (2nd gen for me) or C6-Z since they'd be fun in a different way than the BRZ. Interested in seeing what you end up getting!
first marriage victim: the brz! 😂
😂😂😂
@@TheTopher Yeah funny how just about every man who has a car like this or a Mustang or a Camaro as soon as they get married the car is always the first to go. Why is that? Never understood it
@@richardbutton1179 I'm never gonna marry lmao
@@richardbutton1179 A lot of moms don't like the idea of letting their child in a sports car. They usually buy a monstrously large SUV because they feel safer. Anything and everything is a threat to the child and must be dealt with and protected from. "Dylan, I know you served three years but the death trap Camaro's gotta go I'm buying a Suburban" Exact thing happened to my good friend's older brother. The wife made him sell his STI and that's four door family usable car. I'm walking if my girl ends up like that.
@@flashfilibuster5382 i'll probably get myself V6 Toyota Alphard, it's a minivan with 300hp stock, it goes
Heck yeah S2000
Oh no, it will be remembered! What a great ride.
I dunno how you feel about nissan, but even the 370Zs can be had for pretty cheap, new ones are only $30K. Not to mention a wonderful V6. But whatever you purchase in the future I cant wait to see it!
I'm not sure about TheTopher, but I wouldn't trade my BRZ for a 370z. They are just very different cars.
I got my FRS for the same reason - to learn RWD. I've had it just over a year now and I'm really starting to come into my own with this car. It's always been fun, but now I feel like the bond is starting to form. I'm getting the Berk high flow catted front pipe and their axle back at my door soon. Wanted something that sounds totally stock while highway cruising but kicks things up a notch when things get spirited. After that is the OFT, but I'm taking my time to get the most out of each smile. .
The S2000 would be the next logical step if you want to continue the same driving experience as the BRZ but with the figurative volume turned up a few level. As the owner of both, the BRZ serves as a "training wheel" to the S2000. I learn the fundamentals of RWD driving and handling through the safety net of the BRZ to prepare myself to feel comfortable pushing my S2000 further. Without any driving aid, the S2000's character needs to be respected and handled with finesse at the limit of both the car and the driver... but it looks like you are well at really good level to enjoy the S to the fullest :).
Good luck with sale and look forward to watching you downshift and heeltoe in your next car!
It’s scary how much of what you’re saying are my thoughts exactly. I just sold my 2014 BRZ, always wanted an S2K. Have you considered the 987 cayman?
Edit: mentions the cayman at 21:30
Edit 2: lmao I also don’t want to spend more than 30. And I always am curious to wait and see what the GR86 turns out to be.
waiting for that also or the supra or the cayman/boxter
Welp just bought an AP1 and I can highly recommend it!
You've convinced me to buy an OFT and Headers for my 15' WRB. love your videos! very insightful good sir!
have an immaculate s2k. will be selling it soon and getting toyota version of the BRZ... curious about the new GR86/BRZ, but might not wait. was considering Porsche as well, Cayman and 997, but not willing to pay Porsche tax even I could...
send it I have a 2017 86 and it’s an epic car, bought in new in late 2016 - full bolts ons with flex Fuel is the way to go! Awesome power all round
What’s up with that S2k sale man?
Could probably find a nice, used C7 Stingray for a good price.
C7s arent as pure of a driving experience as a brz/s2000 is
Ew. Stop.
nick ishizaki how is it not though?
Nice ad as well. I real serious buyer will appreciated all your efforts
Joe's Golden Garage I found you again! It has been proven that me and you watch the same channels! That's cool!
Very sad for sure..... but understandable. Lovely that you even owned the car in the first place. Someone is going to be getting a very well sorted out 86👍
2.4 turbocharged boxer, 258hp, RWD, MT - the next GT86 (GR86) and BRZ - 2021 as they say (hope they are right!)
I can definitely recommend an s2000
But if you're going to go second hand. I'd like to request a video of explaining what you do before buying the vehicle in terms of checkups and test drives...like a how to video.
ND2?
Any interest in something older?
AE86 hatch with the right mods from Cali? Older Elise/Exige with a blower?
I want to sell my BRZ but every time I drive I'm like "but do I really want to?"
Same here. 2016 owner. I'm waiting on the new 2022 one and see if I'll take the leap of faith myself.
Own a 2019 RAV4, and considering a cheap frs as a build, mainly to learn stick and rwd control.
frs couldn’t be a more perfect car to learn manual
still enjoying this...💯 better than a Volt!
Thank Corona that your used vehicle value just dropped 15%. On the plus side, any vehicle you want to replace it with will also be reduced in value 15%. If the new vehicle is more expensive than the old one, you can still make out with the crazy car pricing right now. Buddy just bought a 51K diesel loaded truck for 31K out the door after all taxes and fees... he couldn't believe a dealer accepted his offer, but they are desperate for cash.
There are some crazy deals to be had right now! Also a pretty good time to put money into the market while things are low. In 10 years I could get a GT3 😄
Oh the irony
This was a great video. Really makes me consider making a brz my new daily.
Totally understandable. The brz & frs/86 are great but they're entry level.
I think you might be making a mistake man... Just when you found the sweet spot with all the mods. Why not try to get the Estate V70R AWD for daily and keeping the BRZ for track days? Lexus is just... an SUV.
I vote either s2000 or cayman
You know what's really nice the Ford Taurus sho.
No way you're selling that for 15.9.
Sad to see her go :(
Not sure it's been said yet so....Veloster N!
Cayman 987, now is the time. 4C would be great too
What about something like a Z as a replacement? Which isn’t to say all the cars you mentioned wouldn’t be great next steps!
Saw those vids you made of it, looks like it was driven pretty hard.
S2000 please!
This is most likely
Keep the BRZ sell another one of your cars. Still a fun car especially for the money of a used one now.
Hell no, the 850R he has is more special than the frs
Wow! Are you becoming a minimalist?
Totally
I would love to get a used one as a weekend vehicle.
Its a wild card but I’d give the Miata a good look as well besides the S2K its probably even cheaper to maintain than the S2K since that bad boy is out of production.
I think the Lexus would get you more money for the space. Save this and trade it towards the next 86, It’s too much enjoyment. :)
Can I vote twice for you buying a 2022brz?
Would you consider Veloster N? or are you looking for RWD sportscar?
Ken_T we might try to snag a long-term Veloster N from Hyundai this next year or so...a lot of fun things we could do with it between the channels. 🤞
TheTopher I hope you get the new one! It’s gonna come with new N sports seats.
By the way, I love your content!
Prediction: you end up with the new brz
My Miata I had years ago was so fun on winter tires. Felt like I added 80 hp
Have you heard anything about longevity with uel and tune? They say keep it stock for it to not blow up, haven’t seen any vids on that. Great vids thanks!
Cheers again for the great impressions I’m looking forward to getting GT86 in Jan torn between Face lift and non Facelift, but upgrade stuff does seem minimal from 2013 compared to 2017. S2000 seems like a good choice after BRZ. I’m going Celica 7th gen-GT86-GR Supra then if funds allow R34 Skyline.
Best of luck with the new car. Do you always drive like that on a day to day basis? How much mileage? Just want to know how well the engine holds up. I know you track but what kind of oil/weight and OCI are you running in this this car?
Damn I'll miss the BRZ but you should get a Volvo 240!
Grew up in a 91 240 Sedan!
No waaay! Man your whole family has some good taste in cars!
It’s funny, my parents aren’t really car enthusiasts at all, but my dad had a red Karmann Ghia coupe when I was a kid and that’s what got me into it at an early age. After that was a string of Volvo’s, and now they have a better garage than I do 😂 minus the 850 R of course
Get a Genesis Coupe BK2 3.8. Now that a drift monster
hi,
Kind of off topic but i wondered:
Could you review a frs/gt86/brz Auto ? i know it's no "enthusiast" gearbox but i wondered what were your feelings about it, how it differed from the manual, the pros and cons that you would come with.
Great to hear about your next car plans ! i still don't own any car but once i do, i'd probably go for a mx5 or a twin =)
How about that widebody Scatpack? You seemed to speak well of it in your review.
Get an S2000!!!
How was the maintenance on when you had it? Heard boxer motors not really that reliable and not some what tough to work on. Thinking about getting one of the early year models.
The FA20s in these (2014+) seem to be pretty stout, never had any issues in 60k miles and after I sold it’s still going strong.
If you are looking for a fun sports car that you can also daily these are one of the best options. The only thing I don't like about them is the boxer engine, I wish they just had I4.
16:16
A Honda Civic isn’t a bad shout I think
Trying to buy a 2020 brz or 86 i can;t wait damn
Were you able to sell it? Do you miss it and is there a replacement coming up? I’m sure you already saw that the 2022 BRZ is awesome with that 2.4 liter. I wonder if it’s better than the nd2 Mx-5.
Ford Focus RS maybe?
Yep that will be s2000
Are you running the stock breaks? If so what break pads would you recommend?
What phone mount is that that you’re using topher?
Damn...its foreal. I guess it might be for the best.
Keep the Lexus! Heck
Get an MR2 or a cayman!
Very impressive.
Which cars do you have right now?
Is it time for a supercar? First-gen R8?
Unpopular opinion: I think supercars are overrated. I’d rather drive something I don’t have to worry as much about. I’ve been relieved to hand back the keys to every supercar I’ve driven for that reason lol. The only exception I’ll make is a 997.2 GT3!
Lexus and Volvo stay. Do you need the plexus is a tow vehicle and just all-around travel vehicle
Exactly, I’m anticipating a lot of cross-country trips in the Lexus these next couple years! Might have to finally swing for a rooftop tent too 👍
Since you got a Volvo, why not a Saab 9-3??🤷🏼♂️
Are you getting rid of your FT86SF header? I'd be interested if you are willing to ship.
Ok but for real a good upgrade would be a 370Z
I have a G37 coupe (I prefer it’s looks more) and a BRZ, and I still prefer to drive the BRZ like 8 out of 10 times.
Nooooo!!!
Did you end up selling it?
Would you recommend a brz to a college student?
Absolutely.
TheTopher right on!
I know the BRZ and the Toyota 86 are the same but does one have an option the other doesnt? Can you you get android auto/ Apple car play in either?
Richard Button on the newer BRZs you can get sachs dampers and brembo brakes
Buy a sukuzi cappuccino or ae86
Get a type r!!!
I want to sell my stock '16 FRS...but covid
Did your family get the Rav 4?
Which radar detector are you using ? model?
Passport 9500ix
TheTopher thank you
I want one of these cars SO BAD. The main problem is that I am 6'5" so I can't fit in many sports cars.
Have you sat in one? My buddy George is 6’3 and fits in his FR-S great. You’d be surprised!
@@TheTopher I'm surprised. I thought it was not much bigger than the Miata. I will definitely consider it for my next car.
@@jtland4842 If you want one new you better do it now. Japan stopped production on these babies in March apparently and not doing anymore until 2021 mid year.
awesome 👍👍👍
Have you considered an Audi TT?
TTRS with the 5 cylinder would be sweet.
if you really wana minimize, get a sportsbike. any 600cc should be adequate.
How much?
How abt GTI mk7 manual or maybe S3?
GTI has tons of moding capabilities / show car/daily car /track car/ sleeper super car500hp / or maybe stock!
$750 for plugs!!!