Very informative. Great video. I have a Hippo, a Chocolate Tang and a TwoBar Rabbit in my QT now. They were in for a week before I added any meds to make sure they were eating. I started PraziPro and dosed twice over 2 weeks. Once that was done, I went to copper using Cooper Power. During my ramp up to 2.5ppm I noted the Blue Tang started breaking out. Looks like Ich but hard to tell. I have heard they break out for no reason sometimes. Have you seen this before? Copper is currently at about 2.4. Should be at 2.5 tomorrow. That will be a one week ramp up. Then I will keep it there for 30 days.
Great tips Travis. I’m a complete beginner on salt water and you’ve convinced me to not start a tank til I can get both the tank and a QT system setup and running. To expensive a hobby to take chances not doing it. Thanks for the great info!
I totally agree on the quarantine of fish. I have learned this from you Travis, and I THANK YOU for that!!! You remember all of the fish I lost with my last system. I now have Two clowns, a mimic tang, a yellow tang, a lawn mower blenny, a coral beauty, (who may be evicted) 2 pajama cardinals, a yellow goby, a green goby, a watchman goby and a solon fairy wrasse who are all fat and happy in my system I have now and they all did very well in QT. I did it in stages.....no worries My pajama cardinals are actually having babies in my tank which is awesome and very cool to watch. Thanks again
Thanks man, this is the best explanation on "how to" regarding quarantine... it always seemed mysterious, but you hae definitely clarified a lot of questions I had. Thanks for sharing your knowledge Travis :-)
Interesting info on the online fish acclimation. I'm going to try and find more information on it now. I only use divers den when ordering fish and they have their acclimation protocol included (standard, sure you've seen it). I've always followed it and haven't lost a fish yet (from divers den). Now I'm wondering if I should switch to the other method. The thing popping into my head though is 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' so we'll see.
I hear some people use a fresh water dip, using just RO/DI water to get rid of parasites. What do you think about this procedure? Is it really toxic to the fish?
Great video and I qt because as you said I played Russian roulette and caught the bullet. That taught me a valuable lesson. I love seeing Ocean in your videos..lol.. Keep up the great work.
My qt tank and display salinity and temperature is the same what’s your method for introducing that fish to the display drip acclimate or just put him in from a separate net because I have a qt&a display net
I have heard of acclimating them that way from the fresh water side , I believe it was from Joey. He floats them and then put some right in the tank due to the ammonia. Not sure if he was the original author, Great tip didn’t know it would work for salt water as well
Hi love ur fish but I have a question I had a 55 gal to start and a fish got ich on there so I then got a 90 gal then I decided to set up a 180 g but with the knowledge of taking down the 55 so after I moved all the coral out of there I treated the tank with copper safe about the last 2 months now I have a sand bed in there and I really don’t want to introduce ich into my 180 so do I have to requarentine my yellow tang or can I add him to the new build since he has been in the 55 with coppersafe for 2 months and he has never shown signs of ich ever but my rabbit fish that’s the only fish in the 180due to having ich really bad but I quarantined him for months and cured him ?
Good idea on half dose will it hurt fish long term? Bad case of ick, got qt tanks everywhere and a long term qt for after fallow period. I'm worried about not going away.
Great watch, only thing i can think of for the "Hippo Tang" is you might not of had the copper at Therapeutic levels for the copper, however you should try hypo with copper. It works big time, try Copper Power too. Copper Power is great for Wrasses and Angels, it's a lot safer than Cupramine on safety levels of the copper it's self (I am a big fan of Cupramine though to be fair.)
I didn't quarantine everything was wonderful, until I added my last fish a blue throat trigger, he had velvet, wiped out most of my fish.after that I quarantine everything snails, crabs Everything That was a hard lesson, hopefully people will listen to your good advice
Great info as always. Would be good as a follow up to discuss which fish are difficult to acclimate and if you do any thing different with them. I just killed a cleaner wrasse one day into qt.
Based on your tips, it sounds like you recycle water in your QT once a round of fish has been completed, is this correct? What copper do you use? What therapeutic dose do you aim for? What are you using for testing?
hi Travis , I had a tank crash of my 100G saltwater tank. it wiped out my damsels, clowns, and butterflies. Only the skunk shrimp, a camel shrimp, and two anemones survived. I was doing a reboot and currently am cycling it after replacing all the water. What do I need to do , to ensure that whatever killed the stock isn't around anymore?
Hi! We started a quarantine two weeks ago with a tang and a foxface. We used copper and follow the treatment as describe in the manual. Today was the last day with a copper dosis and our tang is full of marine ich, but still swimming well and eating well. The foxface doesnt show any signs of ich. We did the mistake (well I guess thats why it dint work...) having filtermedia (some kind of ceramics balls from eheim) in the filter... this probably absorbed too much copper, if what we read is true. What should we do? Start the treatment with copper again? Thanks for your help! Cheers, A.
So I’m not sure if u will ever see this Travis but you’ve helped me out a lot with my whole setup so thanks for that. Also I’ve heard from some of my lfs that sponge filters cannot hold enough bioload to support a 20 gallon tank is that true or should I just be doing more water changes
@@FishOfHex thank you so much for the reply i have a couple of quarntine tanks in my garage and i can't keep a naso tang in there everything else does good
Good info im about to setup my own quarantine tank and was wondering on the best filter setup but the same stock audio has been used by tech moans and that shook me 😂
How often are you doing water changes in your quarantine tanks? I heard you say you waited two weeks before beginning a series of water changes? Will that take care of the build up of ammonia and nitrates? I was thinking of doing weekly water changes to keep the ammonia and nitrates down but didn't want to do it too soon or wait too long. Thanks!
im a fan. very well explained quaratine tank tips. i am onthe process of research of putting up a tank and im kinda on the limit of my budget to put up a QT. I know its a MUST but does a reputable online fish store is a way of not doing QT? if yes, do you know any online store that quaratine its fish so i skip that process? thanks.
I'm using a 5 gallon tank with a heater,and a sponge filter. Keep an extra sponge in your main tank for bacteria for the quarentine tank,or add live bacteria like fluval. You'll know when to change the water depending on your test parameters. High nitrates equal water change. I try and do half of the water in the tank as a change. In my main tank I do a 25% water change once every week,depending on what my test kit says. Get and API saltwater test kit. Good luck and happy reefing.
Travis, not sure if you're aware but as a copper user, the Hanna HI-702 HR Copper checker has just recently been validated by Hanna for use in marine water. www.reef2reef.com/threads/coppersafe-warning-along-with-research-on-hanna-instruments-high-range-copper-checker.368943/page-49#post-4692650 We finally have a far superior option for testing both methods (Ionic - Cupramine & Chelated - Coppersafe/ Copperpower) versus the visual kits for accurate dosing and achieving constant therapeutic levels. Hopefully this leads to less qt "failures" and more importantly, less fish losses from copper over-dosing.
I agree about quarantining fish. I can't believe it but years ago when I had a FOWLR (Fish Only With Live Rock) tank, I wouldn't quarantine my fish and never had a problem. I just couldn't see continuing that practice now. It's too risky.
Great vid Travis. Has anyone done any testing regarding the ammonia spike that Happens when you open a bag with fish after 24 hours or so? I have always heard this and wondered what it actually went up to. Also, many top internet sellers of fish use pure oxygen when bagging the fish. How much value does this have after 24 hours? Hopefully we can get more science behind this which will lead to better care of the fish we keep.
Thank you for having this helpful video I last 7 tangs in my RedSea tank now I have a yellow tang his doing ok I am not sure what to do with my RedSea tang should I change the hole water or should I leave it running for 2 months I am using my old 32 bio cube for quarantining the new fish that I am going to bring in the future main while I am dealing with 130 gallon tank I put a copper in my tank called fritz coppersafe my clownfish and strip tang
Ah just when i was about to give up and not qt. Good thing i kept them in! Its a real bummer when ich breaks out twice in a row. I thought 6 weeks was enough time. But maybe they got stressed from the new stuff i put in or something.
He i like your vids but disagree a little with you on this one. First you have mostly easy to keep fish except the blue tang you have in qt now. For harder fish its often very dangerous to qt them, and its better to give them a fresh water dip and do them in the tank or a box in the tank. I get that they can threat all your fish then, but healthy fish can easely battle ich and most other parasites even more the easyer fish most people get. I hope I havent offended you and you try to tell the people this side as well next time :)
Iv quarantined a thousand fish this way and if a fish is to sensitive that it can't be QT it shouldn't be in our aquariums. It's not worth risking an entire tank
WOW! I never inew about the ammonia in the bag this is incredible. Im going to do this when receiving shipped fish!
Very informative. Great video. I have a Hippo, a Chocolate Tang and a TwoBar Rabbit in my QT now. They were in for a week before I added any meds to make sure they were eating. I started PraziPro and dosed twice over 2 weeks. Once that was done, I went to copper using Cooper Power. During my ramp up to 2.5ppm I noted the Blue Tang started breaking out. Looks like Ich but hard to tell. I have heard they break out for no reason sometimes. Have you seen this before? Copper is currently at about 2.4. Should be at 2.5 tomorrow. That will be a one week ramp up. Then I will keep it there for 30 days.
Yep. Been there , done that. Didn’t quarantine and payed the price. Learned my lesson . A very expensive lesson
Great tips Travis. I’m a complete beginner on salt water and you’ve convinced me to not start a tank til I can get both the tank and a QT system setup and running. To expensive a hobby to take chances not doing it. Thanks for the great info!
that what i am thinking of doing as well
Is that a convict tang or Atlantic Blue Tang @1:11 on the left side with the stripes going down the side vertically?
I totally agree on the quarantine of fish. I have learned this from you Travis, and I THANK YOU for that!!! You remember all of the fish I lost with my last system. I now have Two clowns, a mimic tang, a yellow tang, a lawn mower blenny, a coral beauty, (who may be evicted) 2 pajama cardinals, a yellow goby, a green goby, a watchman goby and a solon fairy wrasse who are all fat and happy in my system I have now and they all did very well in QT. I did it in stages.....no worries My pajama cardinals are actually having babies in my tank which is awesome and very cool to watch. Thanks again
Perfect timing. I just put two juvenile ocelaris clowns in my first quarantine tank. I have set mine up almost identical to your setup.
Great video. Thanks!
Thanks man, this is the best explanation on "how to" regarding quarantine... it always seemed mysterious, but you hae definitely clarified a lot of questions I had. Thanks for sharing your knowledge Travis :-)
Interesting info on the online fish acclimation. I'm going to try and find more information on it now. I only use divers den when ordering fish and they have their acclimation protocol included (standard, sure you've seen it). I've always followed it and haven't lost a fish yet (from divers den). Now I'm wondering if I should switch to the other method. The thing popping into my head though is 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' so we'll see.
I hear some people use a fresh water dip, using just RO/DI water to get rid of parasites. What do you think about this procedure? Is it really toxic to the fish?
Thank You! I’m in the process of getting a quarantine tank after losing 4 fish due to parasites. 💔 This was helpful.
Great video and I qt because as you said I played Russian roulette and caught the bullet. That taught me a valuable lesson. I love seeing Ocean in your videos..lol.. Keep up the great work.
My qt tank and display salinity and temperature is the same what’s your method for introducing that fish to the display drip acclimate or just put him in from a separate net because I have a qt&a display net
I have heard of acclimating them that way from the fresh water side , I believe it was from Joey. He floats them and then put some right in the tank due to the ammonia. Not sure if he was the original author, Great tip didn’t know it would work for salt water as well
This
What copper levels do you maintain
Great info. Thank you for a great video!!!!
Hi love ur fish but I have a question I had a 55 gal to start and a fish got ich on there so I then got a 90 gal then I decided to set up a 180 g but with the knowledge of taking down the 55 so after I moved all the coral out of there I treated the tank with copper safe about the last 2 months now I have a sand bed in there and I really don’t want to introduce ich into my 180 so do I have to requarentine my yellow tang or can I add him to the new build since he has been in the 55 with coppersafe for 2 months and he has never shown signs of ich ever but my rabbit fish that’s the only fish in the 180due to having ich really bad but I quarantined him for months and cured him ?
Good idea on half dose will it hurt fish long term? Bad case of ick, got qt tanks everywhere and a long term qt for after fallow period. I'm worried about not going away.
Great watch, only thing i can think of for the "Hippo Tang" is you might not of had the copper at Therapeutic levels for the copper, however you should try hypo with copper. It works big time, try Copper Power too. Copper Power is great for Wrasses and Angels, it's a lot safer than Cupramine on safety levels of the copper it's self (I am a big fan of Cupramine though to be fair.)
I didn't quarantine everything was wonderful, until I added my last fish a blue throat trigger, he had velvet, wiped out most of my fish.after that I quarantine everything snails, crabs Everything That was a hard lesson, hopefully people will listen to your good advice
Nice video, Travis! Everything you said was spot on. Especially the Russian roulette comment.
Great info as always. Would be good as a follow up to discuss which fish are difficult to acclimate and if you do any thing different with them. I just killed a cleaner wrasse one day into qt.
Based on your tips, it sounds like you recycle water in your QT once a round of fish has been completed, is this correct?
What copper do you use? What therapeutic dose do you aim for? What are you using for testing?
hi Travis , I had a tank crash of my 100G saltwater tank. it wiped out my damsels, clowns, and butterflies. Only the skunk shrimp, a camel shrimp, and two anemones survived. I was doing a reboot and currently am cycling it after replacing all the water. What do I need to do , to ensure that whatever killed the stock isn't around anymore?
Hi! We started a quarantine two weeks ago with a tang and a foxface. We used copper and follow the treatment as describe in the manual. Today was the last day with a copper dosis and our tang is full of marine ich, but still swimming well and eating well. The foxface doesnt show any signs of ich. We did the mistake (well I guess thats why it dint work...) having filtermedia (some kind of ceramics balls from eheim) in the filter... this probably absorbed too much copper, if what we read is true. What should we do? Start the treatment with copper again? Thanks for your help! Cheers, A.
So I’m not sure if u will ever see this Travis but you’ve helped me out a lot with my whole setup so thanks for that. Also I’ve heard from some of my lfs that sponge filters cannot hold enough bioload to support a 20 gallon tank is that true or should I just be doing more water changes
One sponge filter is plenty for a 20 gallon tank but you should be doing weekly water changes once you're done with medications
@@FishOfHex thank you so much for the reply i have a couple of quarntine tanks in my garage and i can't keep a naso tang in there everything else does good
Good info im about to setup my own quarantine tank and was wondering on the best filter setup but the same stock audio has been used by tech moans and that shook me 😂
How about quarantine, and treating, clams, fan worms, sponges, starfish, shrimp/hermits/snails & macro algae/sea grasses?
I also think ich feed on nitrate to survive and I can see them covering a fish when my nitrate was 50-65ppm via nyos test kits
How often are you doing water changes in your quarantine tanks? I heard you say you waited two weeks before beginning a series of water changes? Will that take care of the build up of ammonia and nitrates? I was thinking of doing weekly water changes to keep the ammonia and nitrates down but didn't want to do it too soon or wait too long. Thanks!
im a fan. very well explained quaratine tank tips. i am onthe process of research of putting up a tank and im kinda on the limit of my budget to put up a QT. I know its a MUST but does a reputable online fish store is a way of not doing QT? if yes, do you know any online store that quaratine its fish so i skip that process? thanks.
Sponge filters. But how are you keeping the biological filtration up? PVC pipes are note going to help that.
Do you have your apex set up to all these quarantine tanks? I just don't trust heaters without a controller
nice video as always. what if the quarantine process. hypo 1month then half dose copper for 2weeks then full dose copper? tq sir
great video one question what salinity level do you run in your quarantine tank ? Also the temp ??? im setting up a new one thank you bill
great video quality, thanks for the info
Great tips. Thanks for sharing!
what is the normal quarantine time like 4 weeks or 8 weeks just wondering thanks
What sizes for quarantine tanks? What equipment? How quickly can you get them up and running? How often do you drain them or do water changes?
I'm using a 5 gallon tank with a heater,and a sponge filter. Keep an extra sponge in your main tank for bacteria for the quarentine tank,or add live bacteria like fluval. You'll know when to change the water depending on your test parameters. High nitrates equal water change. I try and do half of the water in the tank as a change. In my main tank I do a 25% water change once every week,depending on what my test kit says. Get and API saltwater test kit. Good luck and happy reefing.
He has a great playlist on his own quarantine setup and a ton of info that will answer all of your questions and more!
ruclips.net/p/PLlyrWzDlRs-p7OZoT5Sicbs3GvYDk4hpT
What is the fish at 8:02 (not the scopas tang)
Brandon Cleaver Flame Fin Tomini Tang
How often do you dose the copper???
Great tips
You say exposing the water in a transport bag makes the ammonia toxic…. But most transport bags are sealed with pure oxygen?
what is the air bubble device in your QT?
Hey when I make a water cahnge in my quarantine tank do I use my display tank water or do I make a new salt water
What do you use to test copper? I’ve read conflicting information about different test kits and the Hanna checker is outside of my budget.
a hanna checker costs $50 and about $10 for 20 more reagents, what fish are you even trying to buy if you can't spend $60 on test kit?
You said you put Reef Plus in your food but it looks like you freeze your food. Doesn't this ruin the amino acids?
Wow great information I never knew why fish would die in QT
Much props!
Travis, not sure if you're aware but as a copper user, the Hanna HI-702 HR Copper checker has just recently been validated by Hanna for use in marine water.
www.reef2reef.com/threads/coppersafe-warning-along-with-research-on-hanna-instruments-high-range-copper-checker.368943/page-49#post-4692650
We finally have a far superior option for testing both methods (Ionic - Cupramine & Chelated - Coppersafe/ Copperpower) versus the visual kits for accurate dosing and achieving constant therapeutic levels.
Hopefully this leads to less qt "failures" and more importantly, less fish losses from copper over-dosing.
Your acclimation technique of drain and drop is the only way to go in fish that are in low pH water!
Gah
Can u dose prazi pro and cupramine at same time?
Yes i have several times
Is something wrong with the yellow tangs stomach? It's so lumpy.
He just got done stuffing his face
Do you quarantine corals and invertebrates?
ruclips.net/video/JsWKz0PbeVk/видео.html
I agree about quarantining fish. I can't believe it but years ago when I had a FOWLR (Fish Only With Live Rock) tank, I wouldn't quarantine my fish and never had a problem. I just couldn't see continuing that practice now. It's too risky.
I'm scribbling notes during your entire video. Thanks so much for the great info. Really helps out a new reefer.
Great vid Travis. Has anyone done any testing regarding the ammonia spike that Happens when you open a bag with fish after 24 hours or so? I have always heard this and wondered what it actually went up to. Also, many top internet sellers of fish use pure oxygen when bagging the fish. How much value does this have after 24 hours? Hopefully we can get more science behind this which will lead to better care of the fish we keep.
If I had an accurate ammonia test I would be more than happy to do it.
FishOfHex do you think adding pure oxygen makes a difference in shipping?
Thank you for having this helpful video
I last 7 tangs in my RedSea tank now I have a yellow tang his doing ok I am not sure what to do with my RedSea tang should I change the hole water or should I leave it running for 2 months I am using my old 32 bio cube for quarantining the new fish that I am going to bring in the future main while I am dealing with 130 gallon tank
I put a copper in my tank called fritz coppersafe my clownfish and strip tang
I asked 2 questions in 2 different videos but you haven't replied.
yea so didnt 50 other people every day.. it takes a lot of time to get to questions.
Mate i didn't mean to offend you, that was just my side of the story. Take it easy, take your time
Regards
not offended it takes a lot to get that way im simply stating why i cant get back to you. Cheers
I found your comment and replied regarding the ABCD dosing have a good one.
Ah just when i was about to give up and not qt. Good thing i kept them in! Its a real bummer when ich breaks out twice in a row. I thought 6 weeks was enough time. But maybe they got stressed from the new stuff i put in or something.
He i like your vids but disagree a little with you on this one. First you have mostly easy to keep fish except the blue tang you have in qt now. For harder fish its often very dangerous to qt them, and its better to give them a fresh water dip and do them in the tank or a box in the tank. I get that they can threat all your fish then, but healthy fish can easely battle ich and most other parasites even more the easyer fish most people get. I hope I havent offended you and you try to tell the people this side as well next time :)
Iv quarantined a thousand fish this way and if a fish is to sensitive that it can't be QT it shouldn't be in our aquariums. It's not worth risking an entire tank
Can I use live rocks while dosing copper in QT? Coz I'm not a fan of sponge filter
Live rock will absorb copper.