Actually I think this is way more "green" than building all new cars. The positioning and use of existing structure, cutting no new holes etc and compartments is amazing.
Just seeing this video now, but just wanted to say. This is my dream hobbyist project. Specifically an ev conversion of a classic porsche 911/912 I want to build Johnny Silverhand's Porsche from Cyberpunk 2077. But as an EV, instead of the "future biofuel scifi weirdness". The design, paint, futuristic touches on a classic design, simply perfect. Hopefully i can start it in the next 10 years. Im starting as an electrician soon so ill definitely have the skills and training to approach doing to project diy. I know im a weirdo, but same reason i want to be an electrician, i find electricity fascinating. I find EVs cooler than ICE vehicles but i love a lot about classic cars. EDIT: I know some may dislike the idea of "defacing" or "ruining" a classic car, but honestly, its a never been done before project creating something from a popular piece of fiction. I think its worth it. And even though theyre collectible and "rare", theyre not that rare. Id attempt to get a salvage title so itd already be a "ruined" porsche.
@@msw7021 Shifting gears and revving an engine to maintain an ideal RPM is not what defines the driving experience. A transmission is a necessary evil because internal combustion engines are incredibly inefficient and have a very narrow power band. The driving experience comes from becoming one with the car, using a deft touch on the wheel to ease into turns and then nudge the pedal to accelerate through the apex, launching out of the curve like a shot. Having to dick around with shifting, even with an automatic actually takes away from the experience. There has never been a more pure driving experience than having a single speed with maximum torque available at all times.
At a constant 100mph and assuming no pee-stops, and the same route as the Millennium Falcon, you should get there in about 265,763,014 years, give or take.
The traditional Kessel Run is measured in Parsecs - a unit of distance. I’m assuming this is because the run is time limited and the distance one travels in the allotted time is one’s “score”.
@@bobbarker14 I remember hearing once that George Lucas assumed that a major part of the Falcon's ability to go from world to world in the shortest time was related to the ability of its navigation computer to figure out the shortest way to fly between two worlds. That is supposedly why he originally the boast that the Falcon could make the run in less than 12 parsecs. In later stories (which Disney now calls "Legends", it was noted that the area around the planet Kessel was surrounded by several black holes, which cast gravity shadows into hyperspace. Ships need to travel a distance from these shadows to keep from being pulled out of hyperspace. Smuggling ships, with powerful hyperdrives can travel closer to these black holes and their gravity shadows and say in hyperspace. Thus Han was bragging that his hyperdrive was so fast that he could make the Kessel run very close to the black holes.
Great kit and no doubt a useful. Quite exciting to think that as battery energy density continues to improve the options for an even more compact kit will arise. However as a 911 owner I am a bit conflicted, on one hand the small slippery shape of the 912 / 911 make them perfect for conversions, but the loss of the boxer engines is hard to take. Perhaps the engines could be made into a display piece?
I'll stand to be corrected by Richard and his ECC Team, but I would imagine the car's original engine and componentry gets boxed up (no pun intended...! 🙄) and handed back over to the owner - that way, the car can be retro-converted back to ICE spec if required.
Aren't the interiors supposed to be a less luxurious, cloth vs leather seats, radio specification, etc, to save a bit more mass? There's a couple of videos showing them getting more modern boxster engines.
You guys are so far ahead of the curve. I suspect there will be a lot of businesses starting up in the retrofit/EV conversion space, even for less than classic cars and trucks! It's an exciting and innovative time :)
There are already such shops sustained by subsidies by government in France. Those are specialized in conversions costing less than 10000 Euros suitable for cars which regular commoners can afford. This channel is dedicated to classical expensive cars conversions. I am not so sure why those generic car conversions shops do not develop yet in the UK or the USA. Maybe the difference is in lack of subsidies or need for higher market penetration of EVs in general to prove the commercial viability of those shops.
@@nevco8774 I'm sure we will see them popping up all over the place, even here in Canada. It's so cool these fellows are showing what can, and should, be done going forward :)
This is the type of conversion I want for my 1975 Ford Granada Mk1. The electric motor drives the wheels directly and not inefficently via the old transmission path. One day there will be the possibility to fit a complete drivetrain and axle in the rear of my Granada and some batteries below the car.
Beautiful doesnt do it justice. Be interesting to see one of those high end Speedster kits as an EV. Would handle and drive far better than the old 50's beauts.
Jesus Christ ... this is precisely what I need and want, I don't want a Tesla (though they are great cars) or any other EV, I can do my own driving, I don't need all their extra FSD etc, I just need my car to be electric. No one sees the engine anyhow... I want my car to look like my car, but the advantage of EV... without the typical Tesla sameness. Love this channel.
This channel brought the EV conversion from a business to a form of art. It makes sense considering that classic cars have the shape and design entirely perceived as moving artistic sculptures. Nice job!
reply: and that's Shawn's opinion - thank you Shawn. Anyone that is going to do this, such as myself for example, doesn't give a flying fu*k what the market wants. My cars are to drive, not as part of my portfolio. Thus the chasm appears to widen between opinions and...well opinions... something of note Shawn, you are aware than on a 911 nothing is added, cut or removed - so if anyone is "worried" they should just place their golden egg of a winterized numbers matching engine on a pallet covered up in the corner of the garage and use the car as an e911 and enjoy - time to sell? Sell the pallet with the car. EVERYONE IS HAPPY!! problem/concern solved.
Compliments of the season. Another great conversion, top quality, but for those of us who do not have 100k to give you, we need the 12k kit delivered from China to convert our Ford Focus 🤔
Brother, beautiful job as always. You used the keys words-experience and engineering. A winning combo. I'm sure you noticed I put experience before engineering. Your moto is definitely not-WHAT WE WIRE, TURNS TO FIRE!!! Cable management is key and keeping the high and low voltage separate is key. We deal with that for fire alarm life safety systems with high-low and power limited circuits. A lot easier to run wires than cables and convert everything to electro-mechanical systems with control and verification. Still looking forward to the Volvo 240 conversion you hopefully will do one of these years. Happy Holidays Bill Compton
Just waiting for your before and after comparative data: weight, speed, handling, estimated range, sound? ride characteristics, rim/tire size sound/wear. Such a clean car. Well organized rebuild.
Took me a while to get to this, hope you all had a great Christmas. Very nice kit, I bet that gives quite a kick up the backside. The cable mounts (3D printed?) look particularly nice.
Hey Richard - fabulous EV conversion of a fabulous-looking 912, too...! And thank you for making a point of highlighting how you ensure the gauge cluster reflects the heritage of the original design, but confers all the essential EV information required - exquisite attention to detail, fella 😎
Well i had one 911-T 2.2Ltr in the early 80's but seriousley... I won't have a car like this without sound !!! Classic car has to be a stinky classical car.
In 1969 Porsche extended the chassis 6 to 7 cm longer for handling so if your 912 is a 68 then it has the shorter chassis. In fact I'm not sure they extended the 912 chassis as the engine was lighter although I think the 912 handled better because during the early years Germany didn't allow different width tires on the front and back. Remember the 912 was the first iteration after the 365's which were all fours.
@@eljimberinoq5518 I always thought the 912 was underrated, it got shadowed by the 911. BTW the 911 was originally designated 904 but Peugeot already patented the number.
I think this is such a beautiful car to be converted to an EV. Classic lines and heritage not spoilt by this conversion. Another masterpiece by ECC Richard 👍🏴😎
Nooooo, not a 911! 😢 I 100% get it in other cars, nothing against electric cars, have an i3 for daily use and I’d definitely consider it for a couple of my other older cars, but the pleasure of driving the 911 is 50% in that amazing flat 6 engine.
@@spudproductions7606 still a lovely engine with a unique sound. As I said, I’m not anti-EV at all, just certain cars deserve to keep their original platform. Plenty of crap engines around in cars that would definitely benefit from this technology. Looking forward to seeing this sort of thing develop over the next few years.
Wish you guys had another contract with Moto trend here in the USA. While I can find season two on the webz, it was nice to see it on Motor trend some years ago.
Not really ... you have the option of retaining the original engine/transmission so it can go back to how it was. Nothing structural is cut or changed.
I owned a ‘69 912 Targa and still have a 73 911. The 912 had a single battery in the front, but still had two battery boxes. They put weights in the empty box to balance the car. My 912 had a 5 speed 901 gearbox and steel wheels with moon hubcaps (Fuchs wheels were an option). Also I don’t recall an oil tank in the 912 like the 911 has for the dry sump.
I ran across an 81 911 a few weeks ago the car was in great shape paint and interior was almost perfect. The price was really good. It was missing the engine and transmission. I was so tempted, but I do not have any more room for another classic car. I would have had to sell my 914 which I know I would regret in no time. Who knows maybe it will pop back again when I have room. Fantastic kit guys.
Copied from 912BBS: base 911 and the base 912 were identical except the engine (and engine components like fuel pump, voltage regulator, generator/alternator etc), the gears in the transmission, torsion bar size, and sway bar size (note 1968 912 didnt have any sway bars standard, and other years did)) and gauges to match the engine type and set up.
There are times when the Solex carbs on my 912 are giving me a headache that I’d love to go electric! 912’s has silver badging instead of gold and different numbers on the tach along with a different temp/oil gauge.
My first Porsche was a 912. Loved that car. I would love to convert my 2000 Land Rover Disco 2 to electric but the bespoke costs are too high. Love your conversion for the 911/912. Brilliant design as usual!
I love this way of bringing classic shapes to the electric age and you are definietly on the right road. Unfortunately I am very sure that german legislation will not allow such substantial mods of cars. Seems I have to apply for a british passport ;-). Good luck for your endeavour.
I can't wait for the day that Diyers get a crack at electric "off the shelf" parts ... I have 87' Suburban of Mom's and a 67' El Camino that was Grandpa's, that I want to electrify and make right hand drive with su*c*de doors" ..I'm disabled and cant bend my leg enough to get in the car as left hand drive .I started restoring it, then I messed up and bought a house and land so now it sits :( BTW my lil town here has what's called the Texas Mile "One mile no limit" 2x a year and a few other shorter races .. so can we get some 200 mph race EV's please :)
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Are a lot of these conversions for London city residents? Having a classic is nice to own. But with London restrictions it’s not practical to use one of these gas guzzling beasts on the streets anymore in the City. Would this be a cheaper option if they already own the donor vehicle than having to purchase a standard EV.
There are many more cost effective solutions for people who live in London. These are expensive classic cars with a bespoke professional conversion... so if you are already using the expression "cheaper option" I would say you are barking up the wrong tree! There are many alternative EV options for everyday transport.
I've got a long term (Bought as a Californian import around 2001 ! ) 912 project, so the idea of an EV conversion is something I might consider. As for the differences, as well as the 4 speed gearbox, I know you could get the 912 with 3 dials on the dash - was this also a lower spec option on the 911s?
Eek - I hope you’re changing out the torsion bars for larger diameter units. As the 912 engine was lighter than the 911 engine the torsion bars were different. If the mass of all your electrical stuff in back rivals that of the 911 engine then I suspect the torsion bars will be rather undersized. Similar for the front torsion bars if the front batteries weigh more than a full tank of fuel.
Is there regen with this kit? Or is regen/OPD and braking somehow combined like in modern EVs? Or just coasting once gas pedal is lifted and then normal brake system behind brake pedal?
Being in the EV - PHEV, full electric and hydrogen industry. I would just say watch your protection circuits are correctly dailed in for failure mode current draw. .... a fire is not what you want. Look for your wire traps, where the narrow gauge wires are going and what threats they're under. In contact with abrasive surfaces and vibration, humidity (forming of Algae and other microbiologics), insulation weakening due to thermal cycling, material ingestion etc. Do these cars go through FUSA- even just basic safety inspection, REG85, REG100, VCA etc? .... its a nice idea ... but you do run risk of a crispy 912.
@@ElectricClassicCars You got a sub, happy new year 🎉🎊... glad you're looking into safe systems... so many forget to examine "fail states" . Some systems dont cut circuits in these modes because designers design under a falsehood that their stuff will never go wrong. So fail states can draw less current than what the protection has been set to (but enough to cause consequential damage) .... hence bad happens .
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Actually I think this is way more "green" than building all new cars. The positioning and use of existing structure, cutting no new holes etc and compartments is amazing.
1:28 you even colour coordinated your wooly hat with the EV drivetrain. That's next level detail 👍
Just seeing this video now, but just wanted to say. This is my dream hobbyist project. Specifically an ev conversion of a classic porsche 911/912
I want to build Johnny Silverhand's Porsche from Cyberpunk 2077. But as an EV, instead of the "future biofuel scifi weirdness". The design, paint, futuristic touches on a classic design, simply perfect.
Hopefully i can start it in the next 10 years. Im starting as an electrician soon so ill definitely have the skills and training to approach doing to project diy.
I know im a weirdo, but same reason i want to be an electrician, i find electricity fascinating. I find EVs cooler than ICE vehicles but i love a lot about classic cars.
EDIT: I know some may dislike the idea of "defacing" or "ruining" a classic car, but honestly, its a never been done before project creating something from a popular piece of fiction. I think its worth it. And even though theyre collectible and "rare", theyre not that rare. Id attempt to get a salvage title so itd already be a "ruined" porsche.
Dude….we need you across the pond to make kits for our oversized gas guzzlers
Such an elegant conversion to preserve and improve classic cars.
Thanks 👍😀😀
Improve? seems all the driving enjoyment was removed
@@msw7021
Shifting gears and revving an engine to maintain an ideal RPM is not what defines the driving experience. A transmission is a necessary evil because internal combustion engines are incredibly inefficient and have a very narrow power band.
The driving experience comes from becoming one with the car, using a deft touch on the wheel to ease into turns and then nudge the pedal to accelerate through the apex, launching out of the curve like a shot.
Having to dick around with shifting, even with an automatic actually takes away from the experience. There has never been a more pure driving experience than having a single speed with maximum torque available at all times.
@@msw7021 Totally agree! Might as well stay home and use a "play station", which any numpty can do!!!
Your kits are so cleanly designed and constructed
Thanks 👍👍
Thanks
What!? The 911 has a "smugglers box"??? How long does it take for a 911 to do the Kessel Run?
I for one would not be happy placing my pet kestrel in that or any type of box! Kevin gets very claustrophobic.
At a constant 100mph and assuming no pee-stops, and the same route as the Millennium Falcon, you should get there in about 265,763,014 years, give or take.
Well, 14 parsecs, of course. 😉
The traditional Kessel Run is measured in Parsecs - a unit of distance. I’m assuming this is because the run is time limited and the distance one travels in the allotted time is one’s “score”.
@@bobbarker14 I remember hearing once that George Lucas assumed that a major part of the Falcon's ability to go from world to world in the shortest time was related to the ability of its navigation computer to figure out the shortest way to fly between two worlds. That is supposedly why he originally the boast that the Falcon could make the run in less than 12 parsecs.
In later stories (which Disney now calls "Legends", it was noted that the area around the planet Kessel was surrounded by several black holes, which cast gravity shadows into hyperspace. Ships need to travel a distance from these shadows to keep from being pulled out of hyperspace. Smuggling ships, with powerful hyperdrives can travel closer to these black holes and their gravity shadows and say in hyperspace. Thus Han was bragging that his hyperdrive was so fast that he could make the Kessel run very close to the black holes.
Plug and play! Turn it all the way up to 12. 😁👍
Beautiful looking car, yep on my list
Great kit and no doubt a useful. Quite exciting to think that as battery energy density continues to improve the options for an even more compact kit will arise. However as a 911 owner I am a bit conflicted, on one hand the small slippery shape of the 912 / 911 make them perfect for conversions, but the loss of the boxer engines is hard to take. Perhaps the engines could be made into a display piece?
I'll stand to be corrected by Richard and his ECC Team, but I would imagine the car's original engine and componentry gets boxed up (no pun intended...! 🙄) and handed back over to the owner - that way, the car can be retro-converted back to ICE spec if required.
Thank you Richard.
The only real differences between the 911 & 912 were engine type, performance, and the price.
Thanks for confirming. 👍
Would that give the 912 better handling due to the reduced rear overhang and less weight swinging about at the rear?
Aren't the interiors supposed to be a less luxurious, cloth vs leather seats, radio specification, etc, to save a bit more mass?
There's a couple of videos showing them getting more modern boxster engines.
Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along.
You guys are so far ahead of the curve. I suspect there will be a lot of businesses starting up in the retrofit/EV conversion space, even for less than classic cars and trucks! It's an exciting and innovative time :)
There are already such shops sustained by subsidies by government in France. Those are specialized in conversions costing less than 10000 Euros suitable for cars which regular commoners can afford.
This channel is dedicated to classical expensive cars conversions.
I am not so sure why those generic car conversions shops do not develop yet in the UK or the USA. Maybe the difference is in lack of subsidies or need for higher market penetration of EVs in general to prove the commercial viability of those shops.
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@@nevco8774 I'm sure we will see them popping up all over the place, even here in Canada. It's so cool these fellows are showing what can, and should, be done going forward :)
good to know; which department of France? I am really interested, if you know any name don’t forget to mention
The quality of the installation is so impressive If I was in the market for a electric conversion would be beating a path to your door.
👍👍
This is the type of conversion I want for my 1975 Ford Granada Mk1. The electric motor drives the wheels directly and not inefficently via the old transmission path. One day there will be the possibility to fit a complete drivetrain and axle in the rear of my Granada and some batteries below the car.
Still hoping to one day see a Porsche 928 Electric conversion. 😁 Love your work. :)
Maybe one day!
Beautiful doesnt do it justice. Be interesting to see one of those high end Speedster kits as an EV. Would handle and drive far better than the old 50's beauts.
but, but, but, but ... that 914 in the frame in your office - DROOL 🤤 Waiting to find a good donor car for a conversion.
That 914 in the pic was our old rally car. 👍😀
Lovely bit of kit and I think perhaps one of the most elegant of all your conversion designs. Well done!
Thanks 👍😀
Many thanks!
Beautiful work 😊
Thank you 👍👍😀
Jesus Christ ...
this is precisely what I need and want, I don't want a Tesla (though they are great cars) or any other EV, I can do my own driving, I don't need all their extra FSD etc, I just need my car to be electric. No one sees the engine anyhow... I want my car to look like my car, but the advantage of EV... without the typical Tesla sameness.
Love this channel.
You know it makes sense. 👍👍😀
Thanks
Hopping catfish! A fellow Brit that knows how to pronounce Porsche!!!
This channel brought the EV conversion from a business to a form of art.
It makes sense considering that classic cars have the shape and design entirely perceived as moving artistic sculptures.
Nice job!
Thanks 👍👍😀
Thanks. If a jobs not done properly don’t bother doing it, in my opinion. 👍
Hey Richard, love your work
Thanks 👍👍😀
Thanks
reply: and that's Shawn's opinion - thank you Shawn. Anyone that is going to do this, such as myself for example, doesn't give a flying fu*k what the market wants. My cars are to drive, not as part of my portfolio. Thus the chasm appears to widen between opinions and...well opinions... something of note Shawn, you are aware than on a 911 nothing is added, cut or removed - so if anyone is "worried" they should just place their golden egg of a winterized numbers matching engine on a pallet covered up in the corner of the garage and use the car as an e911 and enjoy - time to sell? Sell the pallet with the car. EVERYONE IS HAPPY!! problem/concern solved.
You have a great job Richard
Thank you for another excellent vid. Hope your sore throat gets sorted quickly. Seasons best wishes from the Isle of Man.
Thanks 👍👍
912 test data soon. Thks.
My dream project would/will be a Karmann Ghia TC converted to EV, with CCS and bidirectional charge, so I could use it as home battery...
The perfect car 👌
Hard is to find a TC that didn't rust away... Apparently Brazilian steel was water soluble... @@ElectricClassicCars
Anyone that is a cable-management geek just spaffed over the screen when the bend radius' were mentioned. 😅
All geeks welcome 👍👍😀
Compliments of the season. Another great conversion, top quality, but for those of us who do not have 100k to give you, we need the 12k kit delivered from China to convert our Ford Focus 🤔
Brother, beautiful job as always.
You used the keys words-experience and engineering. A winning combo.
I'm sure you noticed I put experience before engineering.
Your moto is definitely not-WHAT WE WIRE, TURNS TO FIRE!!!
Cable management is key and keeping the high and low voltage separate is key.
We deal with that for fire alarm life safety systems with high-low and power limited circuits.
A lot easier to run wires than cables and convert everything to electro-mechanical systems with control and verification.
Still looking forward to the Volvo 240 conversion you hopefully will do one of these years.
Happy Holidays
Bill Compton
If I was a Welsh Dragon I would invest and back you all day long. Excellence in engineering (or should that be motorering!)
Thanks 👍👍👍👍
Welsh Dragons are real? 😉👍🏴
As in Dragons from the Den of Investors@@ElectricClassicCars
Incredible job! Congrats.
Cheers 👍👍
Thanks a lot!
I just sit in front of these videos smiling, these cars will carry on for a long time with the expertise of Richard and the team!
Outstanding Moggy, my 69 911t will be heading over to you very soon. In touch with Jon
Fantastic. Can’t wait. 😎👍
Just waiting for your before and after comparative data: weight, speed, handling, estimated range, sound? ride characteristics, rim/tire size sound/wear.
Such a clean car. Well organized rebuild.
I'm pretty sure they have past videos with all those details.
Test drive episode coming soon 👍👍😀
We’ll cover that in the up coming test drive episode. Stay tuned. 👍
Took me a while to get to this, hope you all had a great Christmas. Very nice kit, I bet that gives quite a kick up the backside. The cable mounts (3D printed?) look particularly nice.
Happy Christmas and a Very Properous New Year Moggy and Team!
You too thanks for watching 👍👍
Fascinating stuff! The electric conversion resolves SOME of the noise issues with these machines. One still has the suspension noises.
@jamessellsworth9673 "Some of the noise issues"......... 😀😃😄😆😅😂🤣 What a numpty!!!
Hey Richard - fabulous EV conversion of a fabulous-looking 912, too...!
And thank you for making a point of highlighting how you ensure the gauge cluster reflects the heritage of the original design, but confers all the essential EV information required - exquisite attention to detail, fella 😎
Many thanks!
Now it's a 91E
Well i had one 911-T 2.2Ltr in the early 80's but seriousley... I won't have a car like this without sound !!! Classic car has to be a stinky classical car.
Just add an electronic sound box and speakets enclosed in the exhaust pipes.
The Race formally known as Buffy made a Appearance, not enough it wasn't drifting sideways ....
Wait another week or so and a first test drive episode will appear 👍👍😀😀
Damn that is such a clean bit of kit, your shop alone is really advancing electrification of classic cars
62 kWh battery, nice for a car that size!
Such a clean installation, well done! 👍
Thanks 👍😀
Such a beautiful thing ,breathing electrons back into an old girl and giving her another chance to show off her class 🤠🤟🇬🇧🐑 👍🙏
In 1969 Porsche extended the chassis 6 to 7 cm longer for handling so if your 912 is a 68 then it has the shorter chassis. In fact I'm not sure they extended the 912 chassis as the engine was lighter although I think the 912 handled better because during the early years Germany didn't allow different width tires on the front and back. Remember the 912 was the first iteration after the 365's which were all fours.
Interesting 👍
the 69 912 was LWB as well... with a 5 speed as standard. 5 gauges too.
@@eljimberinoq5518 I always thought the 912 was underrated, it got shadowed by the 911. BTW the 911 was originally designated 904 but Peugeot already patented the number.
Cheers guys
I think this is such a beautiful car to be converted to an EV. Classic lines and heritage not spoilt by this conversion. Another masterpiece by ECC Richard 👍🏴😎
Thanks 👍👍
Thanks
It's great to see so many conversions available for such classics.
I'll be hitting you up soon in regards to the dials. They look factory! 👍
Nooooo, not a 911! 😢 I 100% get it in other cars, nothing against electric cars, have an i3 for daily use and I’d definitely consider it for a couple of my other older cars, but the pleasure of driving the 911 is 50% in that amazing flat 6 engine.
This car had a flat 4 engine. 👍👍
@@spudproductions7606 still a lovely engine with a unique sound. As I said, I’m not anti-EV at all, just certain cars deserve to keep their original platform. Plenty of crap engines around in cars that would definitely benefit from this technology. Looking forward to seeing this sort of thing develop over the next few years.
Wish you guys had another contract with Moto trend here in the USA. While I can find season two on the webz, it was nice to see it on Motor trend some years ago.
Nice looking set. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, will do!
I wonder what is the easiest classic car to convert to electric, and why?
That’s a good question for our next Q&A session. 👍
Thanks. I will look out for your answer.@@ElectricClassicCars
How to instantly devalue a beautiful classic in 1 easy step...
Agreed.
Not really ... you have the option of retaining the original engine/transmission so it can go back to how it was. Nothing structural is cut or changed.
I owned a ‘69 912 Targa and still have a 73 911. The 912 had a single battery in the front, but still had two battery boxes. They put weights in the empty box to balance the car. My 912 had a 5 speed 901 gearbox and steel wheels with moon hubcaps (Fuchs wheels were an option). Also I don’t recall an oil tank in the 912 like the 911 has for the dry sump.
I ran across an 81 911 a few weeks ago the car was in great shape paint and interior was almost perfect. The price was really good. It was missing the engine and transmission. I was so tempted, but I do not have any more room for another classic car. I would have had to sell my 914 which I know I would regret in no time. Who knows maybe it will pop back again when I have room. Fantastic kit guys.
Get it bought 👍😀
Never sell the 914. 👌
You remind me so much of David Bellamy 😄
Wonderful looking Porsche that colour really stands out .What’s the new stats for the conversion 0 60 to top end ?
Keep your eyes peeled for the test drive episode. Coming up. 👍👍😀
Next 10 year, convertion like this to any vehicle are normal.
Copied from 912BBS: base 911 and the base 912 were identical except the engine (and engine components like fuel pump, voltage regulator, generator/alternator etc), the gears in the transmission, torsion bar size, and sway bar size (note 1968 912 didnt have any sway bars standard, and other years did)) and gauges to match the engine type and set up.
Thanks 👍👍
Good info. Thanks
There are times when the Solex carbs on my 912 are giving me a headache that I’d love to go electric!
912’s has silver badging instead of gold and different numbers on the tach along with a different temp/oil gauge.
Interesting info. Thanks
So brilliant. I'd LOVE to own that car. Bravo.
My first Porsche was a 912. Loved that car.
I would love to convert my 2000 Land Rover Disco 2 to electric but the bespoke costs are too high.
Love your conversion for the 911/912. Brilliant design as usual!
A (Mouser) commercial in a commercial.
Wow nice work 😮😮😎😎😎👍👍
Nice work, you think you will ever offer a solution for a complete DIY?
Eventually yes, that’s the plan. 👍
Tell us a little bit more about the electric motor and the battery pack. Is it Tesla and a LiFePO4 pack?
Fantastico 👍👏👍👏👍👏👍👏
You can't do anything for the ugly looks of the car, but that restoration and electrical conversion is first rate. Thanks Richard. 🙂👍
Interesting. Although was waiting for the finished product and testing. Is that happening in the next episode?
Soon. 😉👍
What motor was that? Awesome job as normal.
No gear box anymore? Does the power go directly to the wheels? Great. Any approved partner in Switzerland?
Yes, the power goes directly to the wheels. No Swiss partners yet.
Brilliant. Where can I find more information (including costs) on these conversions please? Many thanks
Thoughts on Edison Motor's electric retrofits for Semi trucks and pickups?
Awesome! Meery Xmas
Merry Xmas to you too. 👍👍
Same to you!
Naw, a 912 is basically a 911, but this one goes to eleven!
Great job! Imagine those 911 from the late 70s, 80s and early 90s converted to EV! I hope to see it one day! Keep pushing!
I love this way of bringing classic shapes to the electric age and you are definietly on the right road. Unfortunately I am very sure that german legislation will not allow such substantial mods of cars. Seems I have to apply for a british passport ;-). Good luck for your endeavour.
Thanks 👍😀
Not true. TuV approved electric conversions of classic cars are a thing in Germany. 👍
love your videos
Thanks for watching 👍👍😀
Thanks
So this is the equivalent to adding the 6 cylinder engine to the 912 ‘back in the day’.
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Not an expert, but I think there were some minor interior differences. Don't shoot me if I am wrong.
You going to do a boxster bolt in? Just asking for a friend 😁 Merry Christmas Team! 🎄🎅🏻
Not got one planned yet. Merry Christmas. 👍
can you convert honda integra DC5 to elektric car???
That will fit in the back of my 98 Maxima.. with a little love from a hammer.. right?
The difference between 911 and 912 is 1, if my man maths is correct?
Well done 👍👍
I can't wait for the day that Diyers get a crack at electric "off the shelf" parts ... I have 87' Suburban of Mom's and a 67' El Camino that was Grandpa's, that I want to electrify and make right hand drive with su*c*de doors" ..I'm disabled and cant bend my leg enough to get in the car as left hand drive .I started restoring it, then I messed up and bought a house and land so now it sits :( BTW my lil town here has what's called the Texas Mile "One mile no limit" 2x a year and a few other shorter races .. so can we get some 200 mph race EV's please :)
This is very nice! Please do a Lancia Stratos if you can get one!
Ooh, yes please. 😉👍
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Correct, best to not confuse the two 😂😂
This in a KAMM 912
Are a lot of these conversions for London city residents?
Having a classic is nice to own.
But with London restrictions it’s not practical to use one of these gas guzzling beasts on the streets anymore in the City.
Would this be a cheaper option if they already own the donor vehicle than having to purchase a standard EV.
Most of our customers don’t live in London. 👍
There are many more cost effective solutions for people who live in London. These are expensive classic cars with a bespoke professional conversion... so if you are already using the expression "cheaper option" I would say you are barking up the wrong tree! There are many alternative EV options for everyday transport.
How many horses 🐎 does this give it roughly?
Australia ?
I've got a long term (Bought as a Californian import around 2001 ! ) 912 project, so the idea of an EV conversion is something I might consider. As for the differences, as well as the 4 speed gearbox, I know you could get the 912 with 3 dials on the dash - was this also a lower spec option on the 911s?
Interesting 👍
Eek - I hope you’re changing out the torsion bars for larger diameter units. As the 912 engine was lighter than the 911 engine the torsion bars were different. If the mass of all your electrical stuff in back rivals that of the 911 engine then I suspect the torsion bars will be rather undersized. Similar for the front torsion bars if the front batteries weigh more than a full tank of fuel.
Yep, new hollow torsion bars and shocks fitted front and rear according to the new corner weights. 👍
whatabout the 356...
Is there regen with this kit? Or is regen/OPD and braking somehow combined like in modern EVs? Or just coasting once gas pedal is lifted and then normal brake system behind brake pedal?
Yes it has regen. 👍
Being in the EV - PHEV, full electric and hydrogen industry. I would just say watch your protection circuits are correctly dailed in for failure mode current draw. .... a fire is not what you want. Look for your wire traps, where the narrow gauge wires are going and what threats they're under. In contact with abrasive surfaces and vibration, humidity (forming of Algae and other microbiologics), insulation weakening due to thermal cycling, material ingestion etc. Do these cars go through FUSA- even just basic safety inspection, REG85, REG100, VCA etc? .... its a nice idea ... but you do run risk of a crispy 912.
Yep, protection circuits are correctly ‘dialed in’ as you call it. 😉👍 All is tested to Reg100 by VCA. 😆👌
@@ElectricClassicCars You got a sub, happy new year 🎉🎊... glad you're looking into safe systems... so many forget to examine "fail states" . Some systems dont cut circuits in these modes because designers design under a falsehood that their stuff will never go wrong. So fail states can draw less current than what the protection has been set to (but enough to cause consequential damage) .... hence bad happens .