The Hi.X55 is just an super precise Mixing tool its not necessarly the most enjoyable listening Headphone, but if you wanna hear real High defenition Sound and want to find failures then the X55 is on the top of the list. The magic lies in the Driver, when all Headphonecompany went big with their drivers resulting in getting muddy, AA went smaller and getting cuttingly precise,
Although Austrian Audio is new in terms of the longevity of the their company they actually have their roots in AKG. not really new comers when it comes to putting out quality gear. I have the Hi-X55's ...game changers If you're looking to use them for critical listening applications.
I have the 65s and although open back they have cleaner bass and less of a presence dip so they're worth the extra cost. I can agree very much that they are game changers. I often see very critical comments but it seems to me they focus to much on a 'flat' response rather than detail reproduction and separation at which they seem to rival planars beyond the 1k mark.
I just wish they included the shorter cable option, as the 3m is a tad long for my use. If they considered re-introducing a coiled 4 wire cable similar to the AKG K340, they would be amazing. However, I've only had mine for a few days and I have noticed that the foam padding does 'crackle' when first used/beginning of each listening session, which was a little worrying, however, I am happy with how they 'sound'.
pretty descriptive explanations of both headphones. But when you said something about moving marbles.. I am at a loss of how a headphone can change how a recording works and has been presented. I believe they can be muffled. But how can the marbles only stay centered and not move from one side to the other, like you said... That is the recording no headphone can change how the recording is being played from a left to right standpoint.. the way something sounds sonically, tonely yes, but if the song is mixed to go from left to right or vice versa no, that is baked in....
You bring up a very good point. When a sound pans from one side to another, a headphone should simply recreate that. But the transience, clarity, and detail all contribute to whether that panning is perceptible. If the panning effect is slight, then it'll be harder to hear with some headphones. Two headphones that make this effect absolutely clear are the Hi-X55 and Avantone Planar.
This is one of the best, if not THE best, and most comprehensive headphone evaluations that I've ever seen! Your video is giving more support for seriously considering the Hi-X55 headphones. Do you know how the Hi-X55's compare to the Audio Technica ATH-M50X? Thank you!!!
Did anyone here get the Austrian audios? Have the plastics above the earcups cracked or broken on any of you? I have seen some brutal cracking pictures and feedback considering build defects with those plastic parts.
Tuning. I was surprised by the Phoenix’s fast transience too, about on par with some planars. The damping material in the housing, the housing material, tuning, and diaphragm material all contributes to this.
@@NoThemeReviews It's nice to see companies bring competition around that price (300)$. Also another proof that just by being a planar does't mean it's better than a dynamic .
LCD-1 roast continues lol. I have no Idea why Metal was hyping those. I really wished you reviewed the k712 pro. All the hype mans are saying super wide soundstage, but I just don't believe it. 320$ on amazon seems too much for such cheaply made Slovakian headphones.
I heard them, their soundstage was a bit wider than average, but I bought them on the spot, because it had my favourite sound signature ever, and it had a freakish ability to transfer vibrations without vibrating itself.
@@depauwgerlings I agree. The K712 pro delivers a bit bigger soundstage then average. My pair tends to slide down while gaming and talk in discord - annoying. The self adjusting headband is not good enought in my opinion. Some people don´t have this problem, some do.
I had the 712 Pro for about 2 years before I started my channel. I was not a fan. Soundstage was above average and I never had reason to gripe about that; comfort was quite good because of the light weight and large earpads; but the sound was annoying. The treble spike was too harsh for me and some vocals sounded shouty. Of course, my music preferences have changed over time and maybe the 712 would not appear as bad now. But I don’t understand the constant hype over them.
@@NoThemeReviews Thanks for the input. I'm glad reviewers still do this. I believe the hype is about them being excellent for gaming which what u just described is what they're good for.
@@NoThemeReviews Sorry for asking, but you said in your first Video about the X 55 that you will do also an Comparison with the Yamaha (MT 8?). I am really looking forward to that. THX. Greetings !
hi! you own the GSP 600 headphones, are they a good deal? I am considering those or gsp 670 for use on telework, movies, music, and casual gaming. Live in a city, next to a military airport, isolation is important...Aside from that, any words about panda? again, isolation, bluetooth is convenient too, that price though...
I don't have the Panda, and initial impressions from others is not as glowing as Drop/Zeos would like you to think. I don't know if the 670 has the same driver and tuning as the 600, so I can't talk about the 670. The 600 is a fairly neutral headphone; it's very comfortable. Soundstage is above average; detail, placement, separation, is all average. The microphone is okay, though nothing impressive. As gaming headphones go, the 600 is among the best I have used. But that's a very low bar. Depending on the amount of money you want to spend, you may be better off with another bluetooth headphone. The B&W PX7 and Beyerdynamic Amiron Wireless are excellent alternatives, though clearly much more expensive than the gaming headphones. Plus, you'll need to get a mic.
VMODA Crossfade wireless 2 with the boompro Mic. Right now while they have specials running, the headphones and mic are $235 combined. You can use the headphones wired or charge them up and use them wirelessly via bluetooth. For what they are, the sennheisers GSP line is actually quite.. meh in sound presence and staging. Its lacking the Sennheiser sound. There are reasons why anyone looking at the gsp line just goes for Sennheiser 6xx or 58x and use a dedicated USB or XLR mic. The sound is better and the staging is far wider.
Hi, I had a question about your statements regarding these headphones' distance from "neutrality". How are you measuring neutrality? Do you have access to a measurement rig, or are your impressions entirely subjective?
No my impressions are not entirely subjective. I use graphs from third parties, graphs from the manufacturer (if they are available), and compare against headphones that are generally considered neutral, such as the OLLO S4 series, and the Avantone headphones.
@@NoThemeReviews Alright, thanks for the response. By the way, would you mind reviewing the Shure SRH1840 headphones? I've been considering them for mixing, and there's a shortage of existing reviews of them on RUclips.
ffplease my friend can you compare me in terms of detail the audeze lcd-1 with the ollo audio s4x? I can't try any of these headphone. I need a detailed headphone open back for my mixes. Thank you !!
I don’t think there’s an end game product. But my favorite gear so far this year are the Sivga Phoenix, AK 100 Mk2 (outdated and discontinued but as I’ll explain in a video, it’s one of the cheapest AK DAPs you can find now and is as good as the new stuff), and M1570.
@@NoThemeReviews have you tried out the vmoda m100? I've been going back to them lately and while they're not a sony z1r or a hd800s they're pretty flippin sweet for modern music.
@@TheFijianGuy What? They are absolutely unlistenable to my ears! In my Opinion the most Overhyped Headphones ever. The are not comfortable as well. The only good thing about them is the cable but the orange Color is mähh.
Vastly different headphones. The Sundara is not made for critical listening or for professional use. It has slightly above-average detail and soundstage, and a fairly balanced sound signature. The x55 provides a tremendous amount of detail and clarity at the cost of bass and mids presence.
They’re not the same. The x55 has less bass than the NAD, and the NAD has more natural sounding mids. The treble is probably similar. The overall tonality of the x55 is vastly different and you may be in for a shock if compare to the NAD. Have you considered the 1990 or T60rp? The latter will require a lot of power.
@@NoThemeReviews im afraid im looking for closed portable options im considering the k371 but im worried about how hard the treble seems to fall off. msr7b seems to be ideal but im wondering about other, maybe cheaper, options
@@jayjaygolden5123 This may sound a bit crazy, but take a look at the Rane Commercial RH50. That is closed-back and may have the type of treble you're looking for. It's under $100. If I can think of something else, I'll let you know.
Hey, actually i have both and the only thing i share with you is that the overall quality of the Audezes sucks but other than that the sound is very good. You can't compare it with the Austrian Audio (i love them too) because they are different headphones (dynamic, magnetic planar) I think is a good thing to have boths. The Austrian works like a kind of NS10 and the Audeze more like Adam 7X. As i said, in terms of build quality the Austrian wins over the Audeze, thats for sure! But are things that the LCD-1 reveals and the Austrian not and viceversa. Cheers
I would not call it an issue! It is just an unique Sound! But for sure not everybody will like that and I understand totally what you mean! But Overall it,s for me the Best Headphone that Ive ever heard up to hmm.. about 600$.
The LCD-1 sounds lovely though very gentle with almost no bass at all like these, but I just tested these and they sounded so bad I wonder if they're broken, but two reviewers said the same so either serious quality issues or plenty of bs reviews going around.
Yeah, who gives a fuck about that. They're damn resiliant, people throw them, toss them, make 'em fall, and they still last for YEARS. They're one of the most modular and resiliant headphones you can buy I have a pair of HD600, you can build shit out of metal, titanium, fucking machined aluminum, I don't care as long as it stands the testament of time. Holy shit these kind of comments make me so mad.
@@ludwigflatscher2057 Agreed just for the fact that they're not very universal and damn proprietary, but at the same time they haven't shown any sign of loosening up, breaking, opening, cracking Anything.
The Hi.X55 is just an super precise Mixing tool its not necessarly the most enjoyable listening Headphone, but if you wanna hear real High defenition Sound and want to find failures then the X55 is on the top of the list. The magic lies in the Driver, when all Headphonecompany went big with their drivers resulting in getting muddy, AA went smaller and getting cuttingly precise,
Although Austrian Audio is new in terms of the longevity of the their company they actually have their roots in AKG. not really new comers when it comes to putting out quality gear. I have the Hi-X55's ...game changers If you're looking to use them for critical
listening applications.
I have the 65s and although open back they have cleaner bass and less of a presence dip so they're worth the extra cost. I can agree very much that they are game changers. I often see very critical comments but it seems to me they focus to much on a 'flat' response rather than detail reproduction and separation at which they seem to rival planars beyond the 1k mark.
I just wish they included the shorter cable option, as the 3m is a tad long for my use. If they considered re-introducing a coiled 4 wire cable similar to the AKG K340, they would be amazing. However, I've only had mine for a few days and I have noticed that the foam padding does 'crackle' when first used/beginning of each listening session, which was a little worrying, however, I am happy with how they 'sound'.
pretty descriptive explanations of both headphones. But when you said something about moving marbles.. I am at a loss of how a headphone can change how a recording works and has been presented. I believe they can be muffled. But how can the marbles only stay centered and not move from one side to the other, like you said... That is the recording no headphone can change how the recording is being played from a left to right standpoint.. the way something sounds sonically, tonely yes, but if the song is mixed to go from left to right or vice versa no, that is baked in....
You bring up a very good point. When a sound pans from one side to another, a headphone should simply recreate that. But the transience, clarity, and detail all contribute to whether that panning is perceptible. If the panning effect is slight, then it'll be harder to hear with some headphones. Two headphones that make this effect absolutely clear are the Hi-X55 and Avantone Planar.
@@NoThemeReviews Interested if your thoughts would change if you tried the song Tool - [-] ions
would love some X55 if they are available here in the country
You can go to the austrian audio webpage, or call the hotline! 8)
Very informative review
This is one of the best, if not THE best, and most comprehensive headphone evaluations that I've ever seen! Your video is giving more support for seriously considering the Hi-X55 headphones. Do you know how the Hi-X55's compare to the Audio Technica ATH-M50X? Thank you!!!
I’ve never heard the M50x but I’ve read from many sources it is V-shaped. If true, then it’s a huge difference from the x55.
@@NoThemeReviews Thank you. I'm using the ATH-M50X for voice-overs and music and like them a lot. Do you mean a V-shaped EQ curve?
Essentially yes. The x55 has a very particular use-for extreme detail retrieval and clarity it definitely is not the most natural sound signature
@@NoThemeReviews Thank you. That's good to know.
In fact, the LCD1s are consistently behind in build and thus performance per this reviewer's opinion, in fact.
In fact, the LCD1's build AND performance are average at best.
Did anyone here get the Austrian audios? Have the plastics above the earcups cracked or broken on any of you?
I have seen some brutal cracking pictures and feedback considering build defects with those plastic parts.
It's interesting how a cheaper dynamic manage to be faster in the bass frequency than a planar
Tuning. I was surprised by the Phoenix’s fast transience too, about on par with some planars. The damping material in the housing, the housing material, tuning, and diaphragm material all contributes to this.
@@NoThemeReviews It's nice to see companies bring competition around that price (300)$. Also another proof that just by being a planar does't mean it's better than a dynamic .
LCD-1 roast continues lol. I have no Idea why Metal was hyping those. I really wished you reviewed the k712 pro. All the hype mans are saying super wide soundstage, but I just don't believe it. 320$ on amazon seems too much for such cheaply made Slovakian headphones.
I heard them, their soundstage was a bit wider than average, but I bought them on the spot, because it had my favourite sound signature ever, and it had a freakish ability to transfer vibrations without vibrating itself.
@@depauwgerlings I agree. The K712 pro delivers a bit bigger soundstage then average. My pair tends to slide down while gaming and talk in discord - annoying.
The self adjusting headband is not good enought in my opinion. Some people don´t have this problem, some do.
I had the 712 Pro for about 2 years before I started my channel. I was not a fan. Soundstage was above average and I never had reason to gripe about that; comfort was quite good because of the light weight and large earpads; but the sound was annoying. The treble spike was too harsh for me and some vocals sounded shouty. Of course, my music preferences have changed over time and maybe the 712 would not appear as bad now. But I don’t understand the constant hype over them.
@@NoThemeReviews Thanks for the input. I'm glad reviewers still do this. I believe the hype is about them being excellent for gaming which what u just described is what they're good for.
@@NoThemeReviews Sorry for asking, but you said in your first Video about the X 55 that you will do also an Comparison with the Yamaha (MT 8?). I am really looking forward to that. THX. Greetings !
Hi there!
im hoping you will compare the X55 vs OLLO S4 (openback) ....
thank you
@Petrus Camacho Hi Petrus Camacho , Thank You for your suggestion.
hi! you own the GSP 600 headphones, are they a good deal? I am considering those or gsp 670 for use on telework, movies, music, and casual gaming. Live in a city, next to a military airport, isolation is important...Aside from that, any words about panda? again, isolation, bluetooth is convenient too, that price though...
I don't have the Panda, and initial impressions from others is not as glowing as Drop/Zeos would like you to think. I don't know if the 670 has the same driver and tuning as the 600, so I can't talk about the 670. The 600 is a fairly neutral headphone; it's very comfortable. Soundstage is above average; detail, placement, separation, is all average. The microphone is okay, though nothing impressive. As gaming headphones go, the 600 is among the best I have used. But that's a very low bar. Depending on the amount of money you want to spend, you may be better off with another bluetooth headphone. The B&W PX7 and Beyerdynamic Amiron Wireless are excellent alternatives, though clearly much more expensive than the gaming headphones. Plus, you'll need to get a mic.
VMODA Crossfade wireless 2 with the boompro Mic. Right now while they have specials running, the headphones and mic are $235 combined. You can use the headphones wired or charge them up and use them wirelessly via bluetooth. For what they are, the sennheisers GSP line is actually quite.. meh in sound presence and staging. Its lacking the Sennheiser sound. There are reasons why anyone looking at the gsp line just goes for Sennheiser 6xx or 58x and use a dedicated USB or XLR mic. The sound is better and the staging is far wider.
Hi, I had a question about your statements regarding these headphones' distance from "neutrality". How are you measuring neutrality? Do you have access to a measurement rig, or are your impressions entirely subjective?
No my impressions are not entirely subjective. I use graphs from third parties, graphs from the manufacturer (if they are available), and compare against headphones that are generally considered neutral, such as the OLLO S4 series, and the Avantone headphones.
@@NoThemeReviews Alright, thanks for the response. By the way, would you mind reviewing the Shure SRH1840 headphones? I've been considering them for mixing, and there's a shortage of existing reviews of them on RUclips.
ffplease my friend can you compare me in terms of detail the audeze lcd-1 with the ollo audio s4x? I can't try any of these headphone. I need a detailed headphone open back for my mixes. Thank you !!
Idk why but I want you to review the gl400/gl400c or the jazz r7.8
What's your 2020 end game so far? :)
I don’t think there’s an end game product. But my favorite gear so far this year are the Sivga Phoenix, AK 100 Mk2 (outdated and discontinued but as I’ll explain in a video, it’s one of the cheapest AK DAPs you can find now and is as good as the new stuff), and M1570.
@@NoThemeReviews have you tried out the vmoda m100? I've been going back to them lately and while they're not a sony z1r or a hd800s they're pretty flippin sweet for modern music.
@@TheFijianGuy Nope, never tried a V-Moda headphone.
@@NoThemeReviews go with the m100 get it used you can probably score one for less than a $100 I think you'll enjoy 'em
@@TheFijianGuy What? They are absolutely unlistenable to my ears! In my Opinion the most Overhyped Headphones ever. The are not comfortable as well. The only good thing about them is the cable but the orange Color is mähh.
how would you compare these austrians to the sundara? They are exactly the same price.
Vastly different headphones. The Sundara is not made for critical listening or for professional use. It has slightly above-average detail and soundstage, and a fairly balanced sound signature. The x55 provides a tremendous amount of detail and clarity at the cost of bass and mids presence.
how does the x55 compare to nad hp50? my nads recently broke and i want tofind a similar or more treble heavy replacement.
They’re not the same. The x55 has less bass than the NAD, and the NAD has more natural sounding mids. The treble is probably similar. The overall tonality of the x55 is vastly different and you may be in for a shock if compare to the NAD. Have you considered the 1990 or T60rp? The latter will require a lot of power.
@@NoThemeReviews im afraid im looking for closed portable options
im considering the k371 but im worried about how hard the treble seems to fall off.
msr7b seems to be ideal but im wondering about other, maybe cheaper, options
@@jayjaygolden5123 This may sound a bit crazy, but take a look at the Rane Commercial RH50. That is closed-back and may have the type of treble you're looking for. It's under $100. If I can think of something else, I'll let you know.
@@NoThemeReviews awesome thabk you :)
@@NoThemeReviews cant find the ranes at a store in my country
edit: found one for 180 euros :(
A comparison of x55 with Focal Elegia would be very interesting! Do you think the Elegia is far better than the x55 in sound? or you can't tell?
I don't have the Elegia
elegia is price x3 so if x55 r better thats miracle
@@soulfulfool In sound details, It may be. I have x55 and they're very detailed sounding.
Hey, actually i have both and the only thing i share with you is that the overall quality of the Audezes sucks but other than that the sound is very good. You can't compare it with the Austrian Audio (i love them too) because they are different headphones (dynamic, magnetic planar) I think is a good thing to have boths. The Austrian works like a kind of NS10 and the Audeze more like Adam 7X. As i said, in terms of build quality the Austrian wins over the Audeze, thats for sure! But are things that the LCD-1 reveals and the Austrian not and viceversa. Cheers
Hello, what about the x65?
how detailed is the HD 579 compared to these? how many footsteps in that song can you hear with them?
The 579 is about average in detail retrieval. I just did the New Light test. I heard about 7-8 footsteps.
@@NoThemeReviews how about the 600, 58x or 6xx?
I do t have the 600 or 58x. The 6xx had 6-7. I compared the 6xx to the LCD1 several months ago.
@@NoThemeReviews because i always thought going from the 599/579 to the 600 series would be a big upgrade in terms of resolution
I got the M70X. IMO X55 has a midrange issue.
I would not call it an issue! It is just an unique Sound! But for sure not everybody will like that and I understand totally what you mean! But Overall it,s for me the Best Headphone that Ive ever heard up to hmm.. about 600$.
I beg you!!! please compare Austrian Audio Hi-"X65" and Audeze LCD-1
The LCD-1 sounds lovely though very gentle with almost no bass at all like these, but I just tested these and they sounded so bad I wonder if they're broken, but two reviewers said the same so either serious quality issues or plenty of bs reviews going around.
The hd6xx series is all plastic...
ya but they have a very robust plastic
Yeah, who gives a fuck about that.
They're damn resiliant, people throw them, toss them, make 'em fall, and they still last for YEARS.
They're one of the most modular and resiliant headphones you can buy
I have a pair of HD600, you can build shit out of metal, titanium, fucking machined aluminum, I don't care as long as it stands the testament of time.
Holy shit these kind of comments make me so mad.
@@mattialemboluscari8774 But the cable System is pretty shitty!
@@ludwigflatscher2057 Agreed just for the fact that they're not very universal and damn proprietary, but at the same time they haven't shown any sign of loosening up, breaking, opening, cracking
Anything.
@@mattialemboluscari8774 So true!