@@T1mPanda At least in his circumstance, he's a professional RUclipsr who gets paid to make content. One could argue that him purchasing this is a business expense, in a sense. The average gamer like myself though will pass on this unless they have a fair amount of extra money sitting around (and most don't).
If it had a disc drive and was backwards compatible with every generation of PlayStation (PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4) I'd be worth $700 to me... digital and no stand included for $700 is insane..
Yea I was actually on board with buying one, $700 price tag and all, until I saw that there is no disc reader. I have approximately 70 or so PS5 games, i buy physical and digital but a majority of my games are on disc. This is an absolute deal breaker for me. I know you can buy a seperate disc drive, but for the exorbitant price of this console, it absolutely should be included in the price.
@@thetechrealist I already have one, as well as a $30 15 foot hdmi cable when I want to use my tv instead of my monitor, but I still enjoy the simplicity of my ps5 too. I would love a pro, but this is straight up bad value
@@bkn726in europe it was reduced from 699€ to 399 in one year, then to 299 in the third year after release. after 4 years it was cheaper than the wii xD
What everyone needs to remember we do not have to buy this console, send the message loud and clear so that the have it when the time for the ps6 comes around
You think that it will be a ps6? Lol, why do you think there is no new games, only remakes and remasters. Sony is going bankrupt at the end of this generation
@@you393 I feel you on that. it took me over 2 years until I could buy a ps5. and guess what...I was forced to purchase a 900 dollar gamestop bundle (which i had to drive to another state and camp out for) with a bunch of pyhsical games that I didn't want. and wouldn't be able to play with this refresh console. ironic.
@victory7763 I bought mine in 2021 and it wasn't a waste? I've enjoyed plenty of games for hundreds of hours and will continue to do so until the 6 comes out or I swap to PC. Xbox is a dying platform as well so I don't know why you would bother.
They want us to buy into it not knowing what the future holds for us. From next year and onwards they will stop making first party games entirely and they will be like "have fun with it, suckers!"
sony os no different than any governement, if people are retards obedient corporations will take advantage. I will not buy ps5 pro, I can afford it easily but I refuse to condemn other gamers just to be selfish
I don’t care about it being digital. The problem is tgat it shouldn’t cost more than $600… if it included the dual sense edge I wouldn’t mind it being $700 🤷🏾
@@xOriginalGamerOG76xthey gone get it for no reason, nobody finna buy it off them 💀💀 they gotta be tryna lose money, aka an idiots spending spree😂 same thing right?
No 4k gaming at 120fps, No Backwards Compatibility, No UI QoL changes No additional External SSD Port $700 USD And the disk drive is sold separately... This is the biggest scam I've ever seen my God
GameStop give you like 360$ OG Ps5 Store credit then you need like 400$ bucks you can put down 50$ they give you a Pre Order Ticket that way on released you trade OG Ps5 and pay the Rest 😂
Yea if they're gonna try to push all digital, they need to do it when they release a new generation of console. Too many people have tons of PS5 games on disc. Unless they come up with a way to let us download these games we already purchased, many of us wont be on board.
@daystar_exe That's what I was saying too. It's a shame we have to spend the additional $85 including tax to buy the disk drive. But I can wait for the PS5 Pro because my PS5 is still playing very well.
Save your money and put it towards a gaming pc. I also recommend waiting for holiday sales. I purchased my first ever gaming pc last year at BestBuy and I love it! During the holiday black friday sales, the gaming pc went from $2,500 to $1500. There are great prices even under $1,500 that will exceed what a PS5 Pro can do. My next time around, I'm not buying a prebuilt, unless there is a crazy deal during the holidays. Building your own pc will always be cheaper. My biggest tip would be to build your pc around your display. If you're a console gamer, and you've got only a 120Hz refresh rate on your LG C1 OLED TV, like I do, then buying the best of the best computer will still limit you to 120fps. You don't need that much power. If you want an OLED high refresh rate monitor, that monitor is going to cost you more money than 2 PS5 Pro's combined. We're talking $1,500+ for 240z OLED, and is way too expensive for someone just getting into pc gaming. No one needs refresh rates that high. Plus, as a heavy console gamer myself, 120fps is a big deal. It's transformative, and 120fps is all I need. My computer can clock past 120fps, but because my LG is locked to 120Hz, 120fps is all I get, and I'm happy with it. People need to stop thinking about $2,500 - $5,000 gaming pc's when those machines are designed for people who are creating games using Blender. The average consumer should be targeting between 60 to 144fps. I believe LG has a new 144Hz 55" or bigger OLED tv, so you could bump your graphics card a bit to hit that target. Bottom line is this... Save your money and put that money towards a gaming pc, or a Steam Deck. Or, just wait to buy 10x $70 dollar PlayStation exclusives for $700 bucks.
It will cost just over $1000 for a PS5 Pro here in Australia and closer to $1200 for a Pro and disc drive. Most of my games are physical. Sony are making really disappointing decisions lately. Edit* It costs $1199 AUD plus around $160 for the disk drive.
@JamJam0189 Price is actually £699.99 in UK, so the US dollar to UK pound exchange is horrific!! £165 more expensive than the US, and still without a disc drive as an extra. No thanks, Sony!!
It's because you're thinking only of your own situation. Sorry for you, but happy for myself. I'll be getting it, it'll be cheaper than a new phone for me. Also easier to get since y'all won't be getting one lol, make sure you keep it that way too.
@@AI-AITUMgood for you mate, we didn't ask. It's expensive in Oz and that's why they will sit on shelves until a sale comes around so enjoy paying full price for a minor improvement I guess.
@@_sparrowhawkno console will ever compete with PC because PC in not a company..console gamers don't get that. It's just stores and keys. No physical and no locked ecosystem
$1000 (in Australia) for a console would be okay with me, IF said console enticed me enough to buy it. This PS5 Pro just doesn't. No disc drive, no vertical stand (not that I would use it, but can't complain about options), STILL no FULL backwards compatibility, and they want to charge us $1000 for a console? REALLY SONY!!!!!!!!!??????????? Yeah okay it's got a bigger GPU but BIG WHOOPIEDOO!!!!!!!!. The majority of us wouldn't even notice the graphical differences or even care. And for those that are going to pull a Jim Ryan and say 'oh who wants to play old games on a next gen console' look around and READ THE ROOM!!!!. Plenty of us do. And before you THEN say 'oh well then why don't you just get PlayStation Plus or get a PC', firstly nobody wants the hassle of 'building and upgrading a PC' (unless of course that's what you like to do), and secondly, you know just as well as I do that PlayStation Plus is NOWHERE NEAR as good as its competitors. Sure they have a back catalogue of games, but they don't span right back to the PS1 and it's not every single game.
I'm in Adelaide $1199 at EB games with a $300 deposit. I pre ordered only because I'm still on a base ps4. 1tb isn't nearly enough and a 1tb ssd will got you around $200 anyway. It's definitely not worth upgrading from ps5
@@DanDaMaN95cov Keep in mind though you still most likely won't get the full 2TB because a chunk of that space is reserved for the OS. Sony uses the space thing as a marketing tactic to suck you in. It doesn't actually give you that exact amount of space.
@jordanking7711 I regretted buying a ps4. 2 months later they announced the pro. I'm 29 and have the money. It's my tv that the issue. Midrange 2019 sony 4k. No hdmi 2.1, no oled, only 60hz.
@RovixGR Yea... for the price I kinda expected something maybe almost twice as powerful. I am reading with inflation these parts are becoming more expensive which is murdering the price point here.
Even if it had a disc drive and stand $700 is ridiculously expensive. It’s like Sony hasn’t learned anything from the PS3 launch. The economy was better when the PS3 launched too. Hard pass.
@@Philspencerredeemerits more expensive than a more powerful gaming pc... that is not how a console is supposed to be. back then a pc that had more power than the ps3 was double its Price. Now Its around 650-700€ while the ps5 pro is 800€ 😅
@@nicklach1071 that's not what i meant xD I meant that it's more expensive than a more powerful pc. so you get a better pc for less money than the ps5 pro
I must be getting really old. I'm only 35 in these last couple console generations. I haven't been able to tell the difference. Graphically... PS4 to PS5 and now PS5 to PS5 pro. They look the same to me... I didn't buy the PS4 pro. I'm not going to buy the PS5 pro cuz this man right here still loves physical games
I tend to find a lot of physical games on sale and I do like collecting them and seeing them on my stand. buying digital just doesnt feel as satisfying even if its easier to access them. sometimes with digital if you dont have the games downloaded to your library, you forget you have them and you have to dig through your collection or old purchases or the PS store to find them.
Time for boycott. Just like during PS3 era. I expected 600-700€ with disc drive but certainly no 800 without. You can keep this crap sony. Also we in Europe do not want to subsidize cheaper us prices. Enough is enough.
@@testus86 ps3 was quite the concole though, it came with one of the first bluray drives that cost alot by themselves and you could play ps1 ps2 games on it and use it for media with its card reader
This is an absolutely HUGE disappointment and unbelievably the UK $ equivalent is $915. They have made a massive mistake with this pricing and poor marketing
Even for someone who doesnt have a PS5 and somehow Pro got a huge sale (which it isnt going to happen), its not a good offer, like without disk drive is objectively an inferior product to the regular PS5. We also have to see if the games on both systems are going to be properly optimized. I remember some games on the PS4 Pro to actually run worse. And i hope games on the regular PS5 still looks and runs well enough.
No disc no buy. I will be amazed if they sell even half of their projected sales. They're just asking way too much for a console that doesn't have the necessities. Even the big three only work for games that have been upgraded for the PS5 Pro. No thank you!
Let's be honest, people only buy this to brag. If you want graphics just go to PC, if you want PlayStation exclusives just go with base PS5. This only cater to people who are obsessed with owning the latest sh*t.
I don't care about a console with no disk drive. I would consider the upgrade If it had the disc drive and some extra retro-compatibility options run by AI or something.
The lack of disk for the price is the main reason this is a rip of in my eyes having to buy the disc drive separately, as for how games will run in performance just have to wait for digital foundry to see how much of a upgrade it actually is especially performance wise on higher resolution, that what I’m waiting for is those digital boundary video to see how good it actually is
Czerny: The PS5 Pro offers more than a fps or a visual bump in quality. The PS5 Pro: literally offers just a bump in visual quality that you will never notice unless you have both consoles side by side.
They really got out here at 11am, hyped up their overpriced console, threw around a bunch of tech bro terms, gassed up their footage as a huge upgrade to the base PS5, _n then proceeded to show almost just cinematic cutscenes of already released games..._
@@crunchyblend8809 TBH xbox might do better in the midgen release. They now know all they have to do is make a new model under 700 and include disc drive with it, because somehow sony has fumbled so hard.
@N1tr0u5 including disc drive is a dumb move. A massive amount of game revenue are lost from resales of physical games. If the competitor shifts to discless the smart move would be to follow.
Hell yea, such a good game, wasnt heavily hyped up either. And no political bullshit injected in the game. The dev team focused on making a great game and not delivering a message.
REMEMBER we don't have to buy this, in fact I'm wondering if the best thing we could do is NOT to buy it. Perhaps with bombing sales it MIGHT work in our favor after a bit.
Aye. They tried this with PS3 & it blew up in their face so hard we got the PS4 era in the end. Maybe they need this. A right hook to the jaw in sales keeps any company grounded.
If you think $700 is bad, it's 800 euros. To put that in perspective if I bought the US version it would cost me like 650 euro so id probably be able import the US version for cheaper. The other crazy part is that no PS5 game today is using the PS5 to it's full power and yet here we are having this? Keep in mind aside from Sony exclusives Current gen games have to support Series S. It's ridiculous I really hope people don't buy this or the prices are just going to get dearer. Because for those Unaware the PS6 will likely be this same price point whenever it releases
Yes games are using its full power, this is why not all games are able to run at 4k 60fps. Where do people pull this not using full power nonsense from, this may have been applicable to PS3 era where it was a unique architecture that was new to developers but the PS5 is basically an X86 PC with a custom UNIX OS.
@@alanw9620 Right but you specifically mentioned not using full power and this is incorrect. If the console is maxed out out at 1200p 30fps then its full power is been used. If games are cross gen or not if the GPU/CPU is maxed out then it is using its full power regardless. It's not like the old days where you could magically squeeze more performance out by better understanding the architecture, developers know this architecture. PCs have used it for decades and the last gen consoles were also X86 architecture.
@@jspink93 When I say full power I'm referring to what they can actually do for the games so a cross gen game for example is clearly being held back by being cross gen and would be capable of so much using just the PS5. I don't think there are 10 PS5 games that are using it's powers to the max. I'm not just taking resolution and things like that. Like for example when Santa Monica make a new game exclusive to PS5 it's going to be capable of far more than what they did with Ragnarok
@@BlackSkyZ2 Hopefully not as there's still enough people that like physical and digital media. As long as we still have a choice then that should suffice.
@PS3GamingScotland less than 10% of games are sold physically. It's also bad for the revenue of the industry, due to resales and cost of distribution. I am not against fully digital but then the price has to go down to 50-60$ again, with a more controlled market.
Sony they just gave Nintendo a huge leeway to price the switch 2. They could comfortably drop itvat 500 or just to be cruel drop it at 400 to just corner the market.
WTF is wrong with SONY lately? Every direction and decisions they've made seems to be all wrong so far. 700$ for a digital-only console with a small hardware upgrade is absolutely abysmal.
@@mitsuhh Did you even spot any significant difference between the base model and the pro from the comparison clip they showed? It's very subtle honestly.
You can get a pc that way outperforms this for $900. Best Buy puts prebuilds with a 4060 ti on sale for $900 last week. And with that, you don’t have to pay for internet, you get better sales on games, and you have the ability to make incremental upgrades in the future for much cheaper than buying new consoles in the future.
worst GEN ever .. we couldn't get the consoles or any Graphics cards for the first 2 years after 2020, then 80% of the next-gen games are cross-gen games from the PS4 generation. Consoles are more expensive 4 years after they came not more affordable. Prices of PlayStation Plus went up. Price of of the dual sense went up. so we are paying $700 for more shaper trees in the background lol what?
What you're seeing is the goal of capitalism. More and more until the system blows. But until then, the elites will artificially keep the pressure down until the last moment.
Why bother with a digital console at this price tag? The only real benefit of a console besides ease of use is physical media. $700 for what is essentially a mid-tier PC isn't a horrible deal, but you are far better off saving up the extra money and getting something more powerful that will last you for the next 5 to 10 years.
As a PC gamer this is actually affordable, but as a person who also grew up on consoles this is a rip off especially since we aren't sure when the PS 6 is coming out
I wonder if this is meant to appeal more to PC gamers. Console players tend not to notice the extra FPS, but to PC gamers the low frame rates feel heinous. Sony seems determined to convert PC players into console purchases and I wonder if this is their way to do it because even as someone who owns both PC and PS5 the base PS5 isn't very attractive at all to a PC gamer. No disc drive is attractive to PC gamers too.
@@Jay34k Don't be salty. I'm not Playstation. They themselves went on record saying they expect releasing PS games on PC to convert PC gamers to buy units. Obviously no PC gamer wats a PS5 it's a pretty bad experience for them, but a pro would be attractive and still cost less than High end PC gaming. Sony needs money if they are pitching a product that doesn't make sense for console gamers to buy then it's a fair bet to assume it's not meant for console gamers.
I think the money has blinded Sony. Im a huge PS fan, but economically, this was a bad move. People are complaining about food gas housing being way too expensive. Still to this day, none of the current gen consoles have dropped in price. No matter how much people want to buy one, the value is just not there for the average consumer. I have the PS5 and i thought about getting this to put in my living room, but im gonna have to pass. Plus, after Sony realized they messed up again, it will get slashed to 600.
The price tag is such a BIG deal breaker for me but what do YOU think? Thanks for LIKING the video!
An absolute waste of money, especially in an economy (in the U.S.) that is facing hardships. Sticking with my regular PS5 that is more than enough.
I guarantee you will still buy it day one and give the excuse I make content out of PlayStation or some other bs 😴
@@T1mPanda Would not surprise me at all.
Cheaper than iPhone 🌌💟
@@T1mPanda At least in his circumstance, he's a professional RUclipsr who gets paid to make content. One could argue that him purchasing this is a business expense, in a sense. The average gamer like myself though will pass on this unless they have a fair amount of extra money sitting around (and most don't).
If it had a disc drive and was backwards compatible with every generation of PlayStation (PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4) I'd be worth $700 to me... digital and no stand included for $700 is insane..
Yea I was actually on board with buying one, $700 price tag and all, until I saw that there is no disc reader. I have approximately 70 or so PS5 games, i buy physical and digital but a majority of my games are on disc. This is an absolute deal breaker for me. I know you can buy a seperate disc drive, but for the exorbitant price of this console, it absolutely should be included in the price.
You know what’ll play ps1, ps2, & even some ps3 games (depending on the cpu)?
A PC, get one…
@@thetechrealist I already have one, as well as a $30 15 foot hdmi cable when I want to use my tv instead of my monitor, but I still enjoy the simplicity of my ps5 too. I would love a pro, but this is straight up bad value
You can buy a disk drive to it its confirmed but its 80$ more ....
Sony will never do that because they want you to rebuy those games and sell remasters
Dude in Europe, to buy this + a disk drive it’s 900euro. THAT’S $992 US dollars! They can get bent
They won't see a single euro from me
@@RovixGR same
Yeah they're really scamming the europeans
@@RovixGR Same
Don't forget the stand, another + 30€ 🤦♂️
Its literally 2006 all over again when Sony tried to sell the ps3 for $600 and got massive backlash. Now it’s happening again.
Except this is an optional upgrade, PS3 wasnt...
did something happen after the backlash on the ps3?
@@bkn726 Sony made severe cuts to the hardware to try and reduce the cost to make it
@@bkn726in europe it was reduced from 699€ to 399 in one year, then to 299 in the third year after release. after 4 years it was cheaper than the wii xD
Playstation 6 will be 700 dollars more.
Do not purchase a ps5 pro now, let them know to respect the consumers, no disk drive??? Fuck that
$700 and no drive is such a kick to the balls. They didn’t even announce any new games that utilizes all that tech
Exactly 😂 watch the ps6 come out and they still have no games for it..
@@marianmakula1213 yeah, what was that, did I see them showing Borderlands ?! 🥲
50 games at launch to utilize all that tech, sthu fake gamer
@@tyharris856 I hope xbox will cone out with some cool console monster console and huge AAA game…Sony getting too comfy
@@marianmakula1213this year Xbox has closed more studios than they have released games!
This is going to set a precedent on Sony going all digital if this console sells well. People plzzzzzzzz don’t buy this.
I Already Pre order My PlayStation 5 😉😉😉
you can buy the disc drive separately
@@I_Want_Winter_Storm1970Good one bot, preorders don’t go live until the 26th
@@onlydadopest That doesn’t make it better at all
@@onlydadopestit should come with a disk drive and the elite controller for that price. 700 for a console is disgusting
What everyone needs to remember we do not have to buy this console, send the message loud and clear so that the have it when the time for the ps6 comes around
easy, if those cocksuckers see it doesnt sell, they just gonna jack up ps plus subscription fees to adjust
You think that it will be a ps6? Lol, why do you think there is no new games, only remakes and remasters. Sony is going bankrupt at the end of this generation
Please guys dont buy it, because of you i couldnt buy ps5 when it launched, let me buy this in peace, thanks
@@you393 I feel you on that. it took me over 2 years until I could buy a ps5. and guess what...I was forced to purchase a 900 dollar gamestop bundle (which i had to drive to another state and camp out for) with a bunch of pyhsical games that I didn't want. and wouldn't be able to play with this refresh console. ironic.
@@SophieReverbsony is still raking in crazy profit. You're out of touch on business if you think Sony is going anywhere right now.
$700 USD console with _no disc drive_ is absolutely diabolical
Obviously you're not going to buy it full price. Most people with common sense will wait for a price drop.
$700 is a lot, no disc drive is fine.
I’ll stick with the current PS5 and wait til PS6
I will buy PlayStation 5 Pro 🥳🥳
Like the base ps5 price drop😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂which has done nothing but increase in price
they just pissed EVERYONE OFF more than they could ever know. Disc drive sold separately, greedy greedy greedy.
Get a Series S. It's the budget console. Usually only 350. Why worry about this 700 PlayStation, when you can game for much cheaper?
@victory7763 this is targeted at people that already have a PS5, nobody is going to downgrade to a series s.
@incognitobandito244 why did you waste money on PS5? It's 500 dollars you could have saved money with Series S. 500 dollars is greedy
@victory7763 I bought mine in 2021 and it wasn't a waste? I've enjoyed plenty of games for hundreds of hours and will continue to do so until the 6 comes out or I swap to PC. Xbox is a dying platform as well so I don't know why you would bother.
@@incognitobandito244 How are you going to complain about prices and then dunk on Xbox when it's the obvious remedy to your pricing woes? Illogical.
Many people will skip the Pro at this price. I can't believe it's digital only. I think I'll stick with my OG PS5.
This coupled with the statement that Sony don't have enough IP's shows how truly out of touch this company has become
Sony got over 10 IPs the Japanese 🇯🇵 old fart knows nothing about gaming
They want us to buy into it not knowing what the future holds for us. From next year and onwards they will stop making first party games entirely and they will be like "have fun with it, suckers!"
sony os no different than any governement, if people are retards obedient corporations will take advantage. I will not buy ps5 pro, I can afford it easily but I refuse to condemn other gamers just to be selfish
Unfortunately I brought it because of final fantasy rebirth, it exclusively to this console
This is what happens when your only real competitor throws in the towel, thanks xbox.
As a fan boy. I’m not defending this. No disc drive is insane
embarrassing a grown man calls himself a fanboy
@@originalauthor learn sarcasm
@@originalauthor Dont take everything to serious "Alpha sigma" guy
$80 more for Disc Add on 😂such a ripoff
I don’t care about it being digital. The problem is tgat it shouldn’t cost more than $600… if it included the dual sense edge I wouldn’t mind it being $700 🤷🏾
No disk drive. No buy.
They will have an addon when it's ready. Read the playstation blog.
@@dagreatberich1070So they wanna sell me the disc drive rather than just include it? Yeah hard pass.....
@@Sevatarr lol then yall would cry about it being 800. Yall are ridiculous
@@dagreatberich1070lol yea for $80. And $30 for a stand
Why? Who wants a disc anymore man just download the games to the ssd.
Sony better delay this and add the disc drive and stand to this package because the only customers you’re getting are idiots.
You spelt scalpers wrong
@@xOriginalGamerOG76xthey gone get it for no reason, nobody finna buy it off them 💀💀 they gotta be tryna lose money, aka an idiots spending spree😂 same thing right?
Dreamcast guy. I beg you. Please do us regular gamers a favor and dont spend money on this. Itll only make things worse for us in the future. Please.
No 4k gaming at 120fps,
No Backwards Compatibility,
No UI QoL changes
No additional External SSD Port
$700 USD
And the disk drive is sold separately...
This is the biggest scam I've ever seen my God
Is the disc drive even sold separately?
Let’s not get dramatic, just don’t buy it . If it bombs then they’ll get the hint.
Then i guess you've never heard of IPhone
@@ecryptix1010 The comments and dislikes already show that.
Cheaper than iPhone
Thank you PlayStation! Now I can spend the $600 I had set aside for the PS5 Pro and buy more games for my PS5.
Hell it aint like theres a ton of games to buy either. I'll just use this money to buy something worthwhile.
GameStop give you like 360$ OG Ps5 Store credit then you need
like 400$ bucks you can put down 50$ they give you a Pre Order Ticket that way on released you trade OG Ps5 and pay the Rest 😂
You get the Pro and still keep like 200$ 150$ if you got 600$
Get a pc
So you gonna use that to buy Xbox games for PlayStation because of PlayStation have no games
No disk drive!!! Welp not buying it
You got to get it separately for 80 bucks 😂😂
@@Zayco360That’s great, because that raises the overinflated price point even further. Great job Sony 😞
Prices in Europe are even more ridiculous. 800 euros for a console with no disc drive?! WTH are they smoking?!
"The ps5 is trash but i will buy anyway" WTF DUDE
I hate that they want to vanish the physical media I love to have my games physically
Yea if they're gonna try to push all digital, they need to do it when they release a new generation of console. Too many people have tons of PS5 games on disc. Unless they come up with a way to let us download these games we already purchased, many of us wont be on board.
All digital is the future if you don’t want to get on board stay in the past then
@@JAPARICAN50-50LMAO go Shill for corporate greed somewhere else.
@@JAPARICAN50-50What a bad future. Digital means games arent yours and can be removed in any given moment.
@@JAPARICAN50-50 That future sounds like a cyberpunk distopia
Its awful! No discdrive?! “Pro”?! Here in Denmark, The new games are 20% cheeper on disc then digital. It’s a scam.
Its compatible with physical games you just have to buy an additional disc drive to attach it to.
@@x4Minkoh yeah then at that point about $800 plus tax 😂
@daystar_exe That's what I was saying too. It's a shame we have to spend the additional $85 including tax to buy the disk drive. But I can wait for the PS5 Pro because my PS5 is still playing very well.
@@StriclySegaEurope its a scam however we can do something, do not purchase a ps5 pro for now
@@x4Minkwe’ve gathered that, but then that bucks the overinflated price even more. Sony have lost their minds.
Sony be like: "Play Concord on PS5 Pro at $700 for free" 😂😂
Dude, Sony is so out of touch with the customer fanbase😂😂 Truly surprised they didnt use Concord footage to showcase the console.
😂😂😂
We need someone else to take over for new big 3 maybe Samsung console or Apple
Take my money !!!!!
@@emilkozak2646aight
Save your money and put it towards a gaming pc. I also recommend waiting for holiday sales. I purchased my first ever gaming pc last year at BestBuy and I love it! During the holiday black friday sales, the gaming pc went from $2,500 to $1500. There are great prices even under $1,500 that will exceed what a PS5 Pro can do. My next time around, I'm not buying a prebuilt, unless there is a crazy deal during the holidays. Building your own pc will always be cheaper. My biggest tip would be to build your pc around your display. If you're a console gamer, and you've got only a 120Hz refresh rate on your LG C1 OLED TV, like I do, then buying the best of the best computer will still limit you to 120fps. You don't need that much power. If you want an OLED high refresh rate monitor, that monitor is going to cost you more money than 2 PS5 Pro's combined. We're talking $1,500+ for 240z OLED, and is way too expensive for someone just getting into pc gaming. No one needs refresh rates that high. Plus, as a heavy console gamer myself, 120fps is a big deal. It's transformative, and 120fps is all I need. My computer can clock past 120fps, but because my LG is locked to 120Hz, 120fps is all I get, and I'm happy with it. People need to stop thinking about $2,500 - $5,000 gaming pc's when those machines are designed for people who are creating games using Blender. The average consumer should be targeting between 60 to 144fps. I believe LG has a new 144Hz 55" or bigger OLED tv, so you could bump your graphics card a bit to hit that target. Bottom line is this... Save your money and put that money towards a gaming pc, or a Steam Deck. Or, just wait to buy 10x $70 dollar PlayStation exclusives for $700 bucks.
YES PC GAMING FOR THE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
1400$ - official price in Russia )
(middle salary for month - 400$)
Why.....just why
Whatever you do, don’t buy this… they will make this the standard
PS6 will probably cost $900 to $1K after hearing this PS5 Pro news
Wrong, the 3DO was $700 30-years ago and people didn't buy it, and it got down to as low as $399.
It will cost just over $1000 for a PS5 Pro here in Australia and closer to $1200 for a Pro and disc drive. Most of my games are physical.
Sony are making really disappointing decisions lately.
Edit* It costs $1199 AUD plus around $160 for the disk drive.
in europe it is the same scam
@JamJam0189 Price is actually £699.99 in UK, so the US dollar to UK pound exchange is horrific!! £165 more expensive than the US, and still without a disc drive as an extra. No thanks, Sony!!
Well just makes me resolved to stay with the base PS5
It's because you're thinking only of your own situation. Sorry for you, but happy for myself. I'll be getting it, it'll be cheaper than a new phone for me. Also easier to get since y'all won't be getting one lol, make sure you keep it that way too.
@@AI-AITUMgood for you mate, we didn't ask. It's expensive in Oz and that's why they will sit on shelves until a sale comes around so enjoy paying full price for a minor improvement I guess.
Absolute sony greed! This is why we need healthy competition!!
Yeah we can thank Xbox for this haha
here we go with ponies blaming Xbox for all the Sony L s this year
I mean, the competition will never come from Xbox or Nintendo - it'll come from the PC market.
@@_sparrowhawkno console will ever compete with PC because PC in not a company..console gamers don't get that. It's just stores and keys. No physical and no locked ecosystem
And the cheapest and weakest system is the best seller. The Nintendo Switch.
This console generation has just made sure next gen I'm definitely just sticking with PC.
$1000 (in Australia) for a console would be okay with me, IF said console enticed me enough to buy it. This PS5 Pro just doesn't. No disc drive, no vertical stand (not that I would use it, but can't complain about options), STILL no FULL backwards compatibility, and they want to charge us $1000 for a console? REALLY SONY!!!!!!!!!??????????? Yeah okay it's got a bigger GPU but BIG WHOOPIEDOO!!!!!!!!. The majority of us wouldn't even notice the graphical differences or even care. And for those that are going to pull a Jim Ryan and say 'oh who wants to play old games on a next gen console' look around and READ THE ROOM!!!!. Plenty of us do. And before you THEN say 'oh well then why don't you just get PlayStation Plus or get a PC', firstly nobody wants the hassle of 'building and upgrading a PC' (unless of course that's what you like to do), and secondly, you know just as well as I do that PlayStation Plus is NOWHERE NEAR as good as its competitors. Sure they have a back catalogue of games, but they don't span right back to the PS1 and it's not every single game.
I'm in Adelaide $1199 at EB games with a $300 deposit.
I pre ordered only because I'm still on a base ps4. 1tb isn't nearly enough and a 1tb ssd will got you around $200 anyway.
It's definitely not worth upgrading from ps5
@@DanDaMaN95cov Keep in mind though you still most likely won't get the full 2TB because a chunk of that space is reserved for the OS. Sony uses the space thing as a marketing tactic to suck you in. It doesn't actually give you that exact amount of space.
@jordanking7711 I regretted buying a ps4. 2 months later they announced the pro. I'm 29 and have the money. It's my tv that the issue. Midrange 2019 sony 4k. No hdmi 2.1, no oled, only 60hz.
Think I’ll stick with my regular already good ps5. Ide much rather invest that 700 into a pc build…
i know right
Hey you can buy a cpu with that price lol if it doesnt come busted yay new gen
You know when the last time the last time a company tried to sell a console at $700 was? The Panasonic 3D0. In 1993. Guess how that went.
Took panasonic out of the game market COMPLETELY
@N1tr0u5 The Neo Geo had a similar price way back then also. As a kid, I thought only rich people could afford a console priced like that in the 90s.
No disc drive! It costs $1,000 in Canada 💀
Confirmed $959.99cnd. Then you have to add disc drive and stand +tax. You'll be paying $1300 after all set and done.
@@mattyork7625that's crazy considering is just 40% performance increase over the standard model. Like what's the point?
@RovixGR Yea... for the price I kinda expected something maybe almost twice as powerful. I am reading with inflation these parts are becoming more expensive which is murdering the price point here.
It’s more than that . Just the cost before taxes is 956.06
A 4070 Super cost 900$ in Canada...
Usually with an upgrade like this, the original versions drop in price, yet they just raised them. It's a no for me.
It's going to be $810 if you want a vertical stand and a Blu-ray drive... before taxes... WTF.
The no disk drive is massive for me. 800 dollars to play games I bought? No thank you.
Plus sales tax (VAT)!
Even if it had a disc drive and stand $700 is ridiculously expensive. It’s like Sony hasn’t learned anything from the PS3 launch. The economy was better when the PS3 launched too. Hard pass.
It’s an optional purchase a pro version, no one is making you buy this. Doesn’t sound like you are the target audience. Enjoy your McDonald’s
@@Philspencerredeemer wow your so rude and disgusting as a human please report this guy
@@Philspencerredeemerits more expensive than a more powerful gaming pc... that is not how a console is supposed to be. back then a pc that had more power than the ps3 was double its Price. Now Its around 650-700€ while the ps5 pro is 800€ 😅
@@HermesderWetterbotedude it’s not more powerful than a powerful gaming pc lol
@@nicklach1071 that's not what i meant xD I meant that it's more expensive than a more powerful pc. so you get a better pc for less money than the ps5 pro
A console without disk drive is like an imperfect product
No disk, no deal!!
850 Euros in Europe man, don't complain in USA !
Still expensive as hell
I must be getting really old. I'm only 35 in these last couple console generations. I haven't been able to tell the difference. Graphically... PS4 to PS5 and now PS5 to PS5 pro. They look the same to me... I didn't buy the PS4 pro. I'm not going to buy the PS5 pro cuz this man right here still loves physical games
I tend to find a lot of physical games on sale and I do like collecting them and seeing them on my stand. buying digital just doesnt feel as satisfying even if its easier to access them. sometimes with digital if you dont have the games downloaded to your library, you forget you have them and you have to dig through your collection or old purchases or the PS store to find them.
@@Thomas-fb5tfPlus Sony can ban you to access your Games,it has happened before just because someone online complains about you
€800 in europe minus €130 disc drive
with a game that will be €1000
did someone drop sony on their head ?
this is insane
Cheaper than iPhone
no those assholes adjusted for inflation, they forgot that other normal people didnt get their paychecks adjusted
Time for boycott. Just like during PS3 era. I expected 600-700€ with disc drive but certainly no 800 without. You can keep this crap sony. Also we in Europe do not want to subsidize cheaper us prices. Enough is enough.
@@testus86 ps3 was quite the concole though, it came with one of the first bluray drives that cost alot by themselves and you could play ps1 ps2 games on it and use it for media with its card reader
@@votpavel yeah and as a bonus you got a broken Nvidia GPU chip and resulted in YLOD.
This is an absolutely HUGE disappointment and unbelievably the UK $ equivalent is $915. They have made a massive mistake with this pricing and poor marketing
The key phrase here is: vertical stand sold separately 😊😊😊
PS5 Pro is weird because it barely has a disc drive and the price is £700!
Absolute trash. Sony just keeps taking Ls
Absolutely shocking £700 no disc drive. Not enough of a performance boost to justify it.
If Sony announced this on stage to a live audience, you'd bet there would be silence, just pure silence 😂🎉
You just know they are pushing towards digital so you can’t own a game…you have to pay a monthly subscription for games instead
They are preparing for PS6 all digitall
They are preparing for PS6 all digitall
Welcome to the digital era
I bought my digital PS5 for 400 euros and now they ask 800... double the price for a small boost? So dissapointed.
I agree
Normal ps5 is better to run gta 6 tbh
You guys in the US think you got it bad at $699, in the UK £699 is equivalent to $913!
And from what i hear the UK is already too expensive just to live there not to mention to spent £699 on a console!. Sony must be on drugs
MASSIVE L.
no disk
no buy!
Max dont buy it, the upgrades are diminishing returns all over the place. wait for a price drop for Christmas Season!
Playstation making their own company worser
Even for someone who doesnt have a PS5 and somehow Pro got a huge sale (which it isnt going to happen), its not a good offer, like without disk drive is objectively an inferior product to the regular PS5.
We also have to see if the games on both systems are going to be properly optimized. I remember some games on the PS4 Pro to actually run worse. And i hope games on the regular PS5 still looks and runs well enough.
Are they trying to recoup their losses from Concorde?
800€ without disc drive, no thank you!
700 USD? How about 800 EUR? Easiest pass ever.
For that probably you can buy 4070 titanium.
No disc no buy. I will be amazed if they sell even half of their projected sales. They're just asking way too much for a console that doesn't have the necessities. Even the big three only work for games that have been upgraded for the PS5 Pro. No thank you!
Let's be honest, people only buy this to brag. If you want graphics just go to PC, if you want PlayStation exclusives just go with base PS5. This only cater to people who are obsessed with owning the latest sh*t.
Considering that a lot of PlayStation exclusives made their way to PC, this comment reeks LOGIC.
what happened to selling the hardware at a loss and making money from games.
I don't care about a console with no disk drive.
I would consider the upgrade If it had the disc drive and some extra retro-compatibility options run by AI or something.
800 in Portugal 900 if you want to play with de disc , Sony is done this company lost respect for they re costumers
No it hasn't. It will still sell like hot cakes.
The lack of disk for the price is the main reason this is a rip of in my eyes having to buy the disc drive separately, as for how games will run in performance just have to wait for digital foundry to see how much of a upgrade it actually is especially performance wise on higher resolution, that what I’m waiting for is those digital boundary video to see how good it actually is
Does this mean 120fps games will be true 120fps like no frame drops to lets say 90fps?
I already called it .. everyyyyyyone will be on PC soon .. they just dont get it .. console is a safe cheap way to get into gaming that is it
Czerny: The PS5 Pro offers more than a fps or a visual bump in quality.
The PS5 Pro: literally offers just a bump in visual quality that you will never notice unless you have both consoles side by side.
Not to mention unless you have a 2k tv you prob want notice anyeay
even in their side-by-side comparison which probably took the most drastic examples that took forever to find...it was so minor.
So you're saying you don't notice the difference in playing at 4k60fps and 1080@60fps.
Image quality on PS5 and XSX is subpar if you own a big TV.
I mean you don’t notice visual of quality mode versus performance? Like this is running quality mode at 60 and looks even better.
@@claudiovic88 yea I’m on a 65 4k It’s prob middle of the road quality
$700 and no free download game with it NO WAY!!!!
They really got out here at 11am, hyped up their overpriced console, threw around a bunch of tech bro terms, gassed up their footage as a huge upgrade to the base PS5, _n then proceeded to show almost just cinematic cutscenes of already released games..._
Not sonys fault for being #1. Blame the lack of competition from xflop.
@@crunchyblend8809 TBH xbox might do better in the midgen release. They now know all they have to do is make a new model under 700 and include disc drive with it, because somehow sony has fumbled so hard.
@N1tr0u5 including disc drive is a dumb move. A massive amount of game revenue are lost from resales of physical games. If the competitor shifts to discless the smart move would be to follow.
Glad I have my ps4 since 2017 .. still new to me
The ps5 slim disc drive will work in the ps5 pro.
Don't forget if you don't have a fancy TV you're in trouble to
A decent monitor will do.
tv lol monitor is better
Walmart sales cheap tvs that work fine😂
For now I’ll just stick with games like Black Myth Wukong on my PS5! 💯👍
Hell yea, such a good game, wasnt heavily hyped up either. And no political bullshit injected in the game. The dev team focused on making a great game and not delivering a message.
You have to buy the disc drive separately for $80.
PlayStation blog confirmed the $80 disc drive will work with the PS5 pro. But this is BS. $780 plus stand, might is well go PC
Don't forget tax on the whole set up
And in Europe the disc drive costs 120€...
The Blu-ray add on drive is another £99 UK
@@ldyb1712here its 150
*SONY LOST MILLIONS WITH CONCORD BOMBING. SONY WANTS ITS USERS TO PAY FOR THAT BOMB. PS5 CONTROLLERS COST MORE. NOW THIS!*
In the UK, it works out at $914.
Im super HYPE right now! This settles it for me! ❤
800€ = 9196 Swedish crown.
9196 Swedish crown = 886$ (US)
Im building a PC!!🎉🎉
Biggest scam in the history of gaming. I'm done with Sony gaming.
I had a feeling it wasn't gonna be worth it, especially the price.
That's what you get for saying
Xbox is Dead
And
Xbox is going third party
Now, You have NO right to complain
Both are those are true. But don't worrie Sony isn't that far behind. If there 1st party's become year 1 on PC. There dead in the water.
@@zid9611it's getting there. A lot of titles for 2025 had the day 1 for the pc release with them.
Your console war is dumb.
If you cared about Xbox, YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN AGAINST THE MICROSOFT ACQUISITION.
You DreamCast Pro Right Now!!!!
$700 for a pro without a disc drive and no vertical stand , Sony be smoking crack LMAO !!
REMEMBER we don't have to buy this, in fact I'm wondering if the best thing we could do is NOT to buy it.
Perhaps with bombing sales it MIGHT work in our favor after a bit.
How much are they gonna sell the ps6 for?... not buying this garbage would be the best for literally every gamer
Aye.
They tried this with PS3 & it blew up in their face so hard we got the PS4 era in the end.
Maybe they need this. A right hook to the jaw in sales keeps any company grounded.
Exactly. Vote with your wallet
$700 PS5 Pro and Concord within a month, Sony knockin it out of the park lately
sony is over .people get a pc and online multiplayer is free
Oh AngryJoe is gonna have a FIELD DAY with this!!
Oh he's gonna love this 😂
I don't know. The dude is not funny anymore and he's a huge Sony shill.
If you think $700 is bad, it's 800 euros. To put that in perspective if I bought the US version it would cost me like 650 euro so id probably be able import the US version for cheaper.
The other crazy part is that no PS5 game today is using the PS5 to it's full power and yet here we are having this? Keep in mind aside from Sony exclusives Current gen games have to support Series S. It's ridiculous
I really hope people don't buy this or the prices are just going to get dearer. Because for those Unaware the PS6 will likely be this same price point whenever it releases
Yes games are using its full power, this is why not all games are able to run at 4k 60fps. Where do people pull this not using full power nonsense from, this may have been applicable to PS3 era where it was a unique architecture that was new to developers but the PS5 is basically an X86 PC with a custom UNIX OS.
@@jspink93 There's more to games than just graphics I hope you know. Half the current gen games right now are cross gen.
@@alanw9620 Right but you specifically mentioned not using full power and this is incorrect. If the console is maxed out out at 1200p 30fps then its full power is been used. If games are cross gen or not if the GPU/CPU is maxed out then it is using its full power regardless. It's not like the old days where you could magically squeeze more performance out by better understanding the architecture, developers know this architecture. PCs have used it for decades and the last gen consoles were also X86 architecture.
@@jspink93 When I say full power I'm referring to what they can actually do for the games so a cross gen game for example is clearly being held back by being cross gen and would be capable of so much using just the PS5. I don't think there are 10 PS5 games that are using it's powers to the max. I'm not just taking resolution and things like that. Like for example when Santa Monica make a new game exclusive to PS5 it's going to be capable of far more than what they did with Ragnarok
We don't need a PS5 Pro especially at £700 and with the PS6 probably releasing in a few years. I hope a potential PS6 will still have a disk drive.
Ps6 = all digital
@@BlackSkyZ2 Hopefully not as there's still enough people that like physical and digital media. As long as we still have a choice then that should suffice.
@PS3GamingScotland less than 10% of games are sold physically. It's also bad for the revenue of the industry, due to resales and cost of distribution. I am not against fully digital but then the price has to go down to 50-60$ again, with a more controlled market.
@chasejackson7248 yea. They might even increase it. If they do I just go full PC and pirate all Sony games
the base PS5 should drop to $299 and the Pro should go to $499-$549, but $699 without a disc drive is crazy
Staying on ps4 pro and original ps5 is the best option 700 for no disk drive not cool sony 🗿
They could at least include the stand and detachable disk drive in the box for that price.
Sony they just gave Nintendo a huge leeway to price the switch 2. They could comfortably drop itvat 500 or just to be cruel drop it at 400 to just corner the market.
agree
WTF is wrong with SONY lately? Every direction and decisions they've made seems to be all wrong so far. 700$ for a digital-only console with a small hardware upgrade is absolutely abysmal.
Small upgrade? 3x RT is not small
@@mitsuhh Did you even spot any significant difference between the base model and the pro from the comparison clip they showed? It's very subtle honestly.
@@LilBurdJJ It's a noticeable difference in person.
@@mitsuhhOh look, things in the distance are a little clearer. 🤦🏻♂️
@@nickxcore74 Your loss
800euros and no disc drive....this is insane. No thanks.
i will stay with the PS5 and wait for the PS6......
You can get a pc that way outperforms this for $900. Best Buy puts prebuilds with a 4060 ti on sale for $900 last week. And with that, you don’t have to pay for internet, you get better sales on games, and you have the ability to make incremental upgrades in the future for much cheaper than buying new consoles in the future.
With used parts maybe.
@@pb2325 no. You can buy a new prebuilt at Best Buy on sale for $900. I saw it last week.
worst GEN ever ..
we couldn't get the consoles or any Graphics cards for the first 2 years after 2020,
then 80% of the next-gen games are cross-gen games from the PS4 generation.
Consoles are more expensive 4 years after they came not more affordable.
Prices of PlayStation Plus went up.
Price of of the dual sense went up.
so we are paying $700 for more shaper trees in the background lol what?
What you're seeing is the goal of capitalism. More and more until the system blows. But until then, the elites will artificially keep the pressure down until the last moment.
Exactly 😂 800 € for more sharp trees is crazy
Why bother with a digital console at this price tag? The only real benefit of a console besides ease of use is physical media. $700 for what is essentially a mid-tier PC isn't a horrible deal, but you are far better off saving up the extra money and getting something more powerful that will last you for the next 5 to 10 years.
As a PC gamer this is actually affordable, but as a person who also grew up on consoles this is a rip off especially since we aren't sure when the PS 6 is coming out
Ps6 will come out in late 2027
I wonder if this is meant to appeal more to PC gamers. Console players tend not to notice the extra FPS, but to PC gamers the low frame rates feel heinous. Sony seems determined to convert PC players into console purchases and I wonder if this is their way to do it because even as someone who owns both PC and PS5 the base PS5 isn't very attractive at all to a PC gamer.
No disc drive is attractive to PC gamers too.
@@iwouldntlikemeeither then there's no point in the pro after all
@@rankcolour8780that's the stxpidest thing thing I've ever heard
@@Jay34k Don't be salty. I'm not Playstation. They themselves went on record saying they expect releasing PS games on PC to convert PC gamers to buy units.
Obviously no PC gamer wats a PS5 it's a pretty bad experience for them, but a pro would be attractive and still cost less than High end PC gaming.
Sony needs money if they are pitching a product that doesn't make sense for console gamers to buy then it's a fair bet to assume it's not meant for console gamers.
I don't agree with the price but it will sell out and Sony know that. This is what happens when Twitter has spent years destroying the Xbox systems.
Yeay they sell it out but not that much, Sony did a Risky move
I think the money has blinded Sony. Im a huge PS fan, but economically, this was a bad move.
People are complaining about food gas housing being way too expensive. Still to this day, none of the current gen consoles have dropped in price. No matter how much people want to buy one, the value is just not there for the average consumer.
I have the PS5 and i thought about getting this to put in my living room, but im gonna have to pass. Plus, after Sony realized they messed up again, it will get slashed to 600.
The Sony you once knew has been long dead. Markets change, companies get greedier and greedier