Defeating console security gets harder every generation. Meanwhile at Nintendo: WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY BROKE IN THROUGH THE JOYCON PORTS?? Oh and don't even get me started on their web browsers :)
@DAudIcI I mean, smart TV vulnerabilities probably wouldn't get anyone's attention but an Android tablet it still an Android device. I wouldn't be happy if I found out there were security issues with my tablet just because of its hardware...
@DAudIcI I wasn't thinking about it in those terms, I was imagining exploits that could be done through software *due* to some kind of hardware vulnerability. Yeah, anything requiring physical access isn't too big of a deal (imo) as long as it's not as simple as "plug in this USB cable and everything is stolen".
I love every MVG video but the mistakes were made ones always interest me the most tbh. One of my favorites was also the Xbox 360 PartnerNet one too even tho that wasn’t a mistakes were made video lol
"Sony likes to issue firmware updates long after the hardware's end of life" Definitely true for the PSP and its 2015 6.61 Update haha (which got hacked the next day btw.).
While it's not that surprising since PS4 is essentially a x86 PC, I still find it fascinating to discover that it's able to run linux, install steam and have access to your steam library from PS4
It's not an x86 PC, it's just an x86 device, but it is not a PC as we know them. Porting Linux to the PS4 was actually a daunting task and required heavy modifications to the Linux kernel (even if it's x86, that's just the only similarity it has with PCs, everything else is completely different). There's a nice video of fail0verflow explaining this in much more detail.
Its not quite the same as a pc... if you watch fail0verflow's breakdown video, they explain how it is different! ruclips.net/video/VpB49dhk2uQ/видео.html
Check out an old video about PS4 hacking from CCC. PS4 is an x86 device with all usual legacy PC stuff removed. That's why Linux required major modifications to run on the PS4. Interestingly, the chipset is an Marvell Armada ARM SoC running it's own custom OS.
I’d suppose you were trying to be sarcastic since he hasn’t yet reached that amount now, let alone four months ago. In that case, that was pretty lame, not to say obviously disrespectful.
But not by Sony this time. All these exploits were public exploits in the open-source code that Sony used. Of course, the active security research scene around open-source gave Sony the ability to respond before an actual working exploit for their product was made. By the time the working exploit had been made, most of the consoles with the exploitable firmware had been sold to non-techie owners, and most of these owners had upgraded them as prompted, so good luck finding one.
You need people to test security on systems.. EULA licensing should be considered illegal to enforce by most standards of property law anyhow.. so the researchers are testing the security of felony/copyright crossover and are winning
I never understood homebrew when you have a pc that could do it all so much better. I always looked at homebrew as an excuse for running pirated games.
Sharing Lungs you can do all things in pc but that shit aint fun cuz u know pc can do everything but the console cannot do everything thinking it only makes me excited the fucking posibilities
And these videos are the reason why MVG is my favorite retro gaming channel. It's so well documented and put together, I really enjoy them a lot. Thanks a lot sir MVG !
I wish console manufacturers would release the "keys" to the console 5 years or so after, production, and support has officially ended Like, they pushed one final update that turned it into a developer unit.
But then it would be very hard to make consoles backwards compatible with those consoles, since they could put fucked up data on the old console's disk/cart and do stuff with the new console.
@@Brick_Eater_ I guess they could. From a surface level, I can see how this would make sense. But a developer unit is only for developing. When pressing a disc, or manufacturing a cartridge, there is a whole process. So when a console is made backwards compatible, theoretically it could run the program made on the post console death developer unit. But if there's no physical media for it to be drawn from with the new console, then what you have just listed is something that won't really be an issue. Also, almost every console that has had disc based backwards compatibility (at least to my knowledge) has ran the previous gen software disc in a kind of sandbox mode. The Wii ran Gamecube games in a sandbox mode. The Wii U ran Wii games in a sandbox mode. The Xbox 360 runs Xbox games in a sandbox mode. You get the point. The only one I can think of that I'm not sure about it running in sandbox mode was the PS2 for PS1 discs. And I just don't know if it did or not, because I haven't looked into it enough.
@@Brick_Eater_ That's fair. Lol. I've watched that video myself, but I totally forgot about that MSET exploit. That being said though. I feel that would be patched pretty quick. Much like how it was with the 3DS.
Really love these series of yours MVG. It is easy to understand and interesting. I’ve used lots of custom firmware in the 2000s and these vids of yours help me understand how it works.
I hope there will be more videos about PS4's Linux capability. I imagine as it gets phased out with the release of the PS5 more PS4s will be moded and Linux community around it will have a chance to grow. I like the idea of turning older hardware into useful mini PCs that can still do a decent amount of computing on the cheap for people who cant afford it.
Love your videos man! You have the right knowledge base to explain and allow a deeper view into the hardware / software that is showcased in each video. Liked & Shared
9:55 That means ps4 gpu is capable of vulkan and drivers are in place. Then what about DXVK? Looks like you could launch ANY non-dx12 title on that little box
DXVK works just fine, and compatibility is quite high. I played a bunch of D3D11 games on my PS4 Pro, including Prey 2017 (ruclips.net/video/ITWMnxO0dKE/видео.html ) and Shadow Warrior 2. The biggest issue is slow CPU and 8GiB of shared RAM. I mostly used 5 GiB as main RAM and 3 GiB for graphics. Even more interesting you can use PSVR with SteamVR on PS4, because it is supported by OpenHMD.
@@gustavgurke9665 That being said the same games that have terrible native ports are original to Windows and also run just fine on there, without all the BS that comes with trying to make most Linux distros do anything useful
Small correction,with "steam play/proton" enabled you CAN run directX games,just remember that anticheat may flag you in some cases. (And a bit of config may be needed) But after that,its great for gaming,i use it on my gaming PC so i dont need to use windows (dont like the OS) Also if you use lutris,you can even play games like overwatch and epic game store games (just keep anticheat in mind)
This video goes someway to explain why when selling my PS4 on eBay, I was getting questions about firmware versions. As I connected it for online services, I always kept it up to date.
This video should probably be added to your "Console Security" playlist. I just watched the whole playlist, and this one only came up in the 'recommended' video list, not in the playlist itself. Great content, btw!
@@just-fun-stuff6753 I bought a ps4 mainly because of games like God Of War and Ghost Of Tsushima but I don't think the Xbox is as bad as some fanboys make it seem, matter of fact I think Xbox is pushing forward in every aspect of Gaming while Sony is being lazy and relying solely on Exclusives to keep their fans happy.
Imagine both Series X security & PS5 security are exploited? A power house PC for just $399 & $499. There will be huge home brew scene for the next generation of consoles because the hard ware is tempting.
I guess you could say that _mistakes were made._ Also there is a high chance Sony will try to take this video down, so don't be intimidated by them. Even if you get a strike, you can fight it. Mankalor, a Mario Kart RUclipsr, made a fantastic video about the process because Nintendo is doing the same thing.
it won't matter.. one ps4 market are going down... and you can still not able to play the game without bug... and alot ps4 need update... so what you going to get is so so game....
Sony don't care. They let the 6.72 exploit go public. I think their new way of dealing with exploits is much better than before. Patch and forget. Only new exploits that are under nda will get taken down (which he didn't display any so will be fine).
My favourite series 🙂 Like PS3 HEN, and it's advancements, I never really thought there would be a way to exploit the later revisions of the console, it's amazing what time and persistence can do, thanks MVG great as always
@@OscarOlim Which is part of the reason why it hasn't been hacked (in addition to the investment in making it impossible to hack for less than 600 dollars in gear per console), you can already do homebrew on it
In my country, all modded versions of PS except PS5 are available. Bless those pirates. It must have saved me $1500+ in gaming. I thing it serves greedy behemoths right for overpricing their games. $60 for just 8-9 hour of a game is extreme of greediness.
Oblivian Andy you’d be surprised how useful it was since the PSP days... without it, it will make modding more tedious since most exploits are made through the internet browser.
You know, the really great part about Linux is that it's open source. If there's something you don't like about it, then change it. There's no excuse to dislike Linux when you have total control over it.
You mentioned "Ring oh mode" you've always been good about differentiating zero from oh (O). And while I feel like I'm nitpicking and while I still do the same thing myself. I feel it must be pointed out.
Likely the first time many are finding out that the PS4 has been exploited. Great video, Will be waiting for your Xbox One Mistakes Were Made (MWM) video.
Awesome coverage as always, never owned a ps4 but I love the production quality here 😅 , can’t wait to see more coverage of the ps5 now that we’ve seen some real hardware shots (but no UI) . I’m still rooting for stadia lol they’ve got a lot to prove from where I’m standing now haha
I like this very much and your research is awesome. Could you make some more "how security was defeated" of retro consoles? Im rly interested in retro console hacking and liked all your retro console documentaries
I just discovery last week that ps4 was quite hackable, when I was scrolling around youtube and Shesez started making videos of out of bounds PS4 exclusives. So I did my 3 minutes googling and your videos just came about to fullfil the gaps. I am impressed at how long this has being under the radar for most commonfolk like me. Great video all the best. I wonder if mistakes were made on XOne too... Maybe hackers are happy enough with how easy and supported by microsoft to make any machine as a dev mode console.
@@BigPandaGamer just wait until the PS4 become EOL. From what I've noticed on the last years hackers are waiting for that before releasing their exploits.
@@andremalerba5281 The current kernel exploit was supposed to be the EOL exploit, but theFlow disclosed it early. There was a group that knew about it for a few years. Now we just have to hope they were sitting on more than one kexploit or that someone can find another needle in the haystack.
Gunna take a guess, and say not good the PS4/Pro are like mid tier 2014 PC's using custom hardware so probably not very good I wonder what games would detect the specs as though...
@@0Synergy If my trashy Intel UHD 620 PC runs Proton/Wine really well then I believe the PS4 would run really damn good with some optimizations then even better
All I can say is it will run very well, considering how well Portal 2 ran on a OG PS4 hacked by fail0verflow at Console Hacking 2016, while it was on Gentoo Linux.
It took Sony until June 2020 to get a public facing bug bounty program put together for the Playstation. If Sony takes it serious which I think they will, future exploits for the PS4 and PS5 being released to the public will be scarce since getting paid will be more enticing.
This is all interesting, but could you do a video on Commodore 64 copy protection please? You covered a lot of systems so far, but the 8 bit computer legend wasn't on the list yet. Let's change that (-; - Wide head protection - Track synchronisation - Sync Counting - Special formatting (Custom Formats) e.g. using tracks with a non-standard header - Intentional Disk Errors - Track Skew - Fat Tracks - Half Tracks - Extra Tracks - Changed Bitrates - "Signatures" in the Header, Sector, or Tail gaps - Long Sectors - Long Tracks - Bad GCR/Unformatted/"Weak Bits" - Signature (Key) Tracks - No SYNC - "SpiraDisc" - Rapidlock pick one, or some, or all (: Let's do a poll, how many of your viewers would be interested in that kind of stuff? (my guess, the majority)
You have such awesome content i could and probably have watched everything you've made so far. I remember you back from the Xbox homebrew scene dude you are a freakin legend. Keep up the good work,
I think the Steam games aspect can be quite attractive. Sure you're probably better off getting either the official PS4 ports or getting a proper PC, but for those people out there who may not want to all out on a gaming pc this might be interesting. Maybe an in-depth video about it? Compatibility and what not.
Ah, yes. Please. Someone figure out how to get this console perma-jailbroken so we can use the built-in PS2 for emulation, considering Sony couldn't be fucking bothered to put any PSX, PS2, and PS3 onto their consoles, even though it is clear as day that they've already figured it out. It's built-in, but was never enabled by any update. All of these sequels and absolutely no way to play the originals because Sony doesn't give a shit about the ones who made them what they are today. That's why Microsoft is going to whip their ass this generation. Edit: Fastest I've ever made it to one of your videos @MVG. The algorithm is working properly today.
it was always mystery to me why people wanna emulators on weak devices, if you have best emulator of PS 2 on PC. why wasting time on inferior emulators
Honestly, I see a lot of the same mistakes being made by M$ as last gen. The games just aren't there. Halo looks like ass. And with ps4 backwards compatibility, a lot of people will go with ps5 simply because they can play their existing library of games.
@@ultimatehistoryofvideogame4160 I currently use a PC with an R5 2600 and an RX5600XT with an overclocked BIOS. I just like the versatility of jailbreaks and what they can do. I *rarely* ever use my PS4 anymore, save for streaming Netflix, Hulu, RUclips, etc. I have a jailbroken PS3 Slim and tbh I love it. I also have a jailbroken Rev-001 Nintendo Wii from '06. I also have a jailbroken PSP. It's not that I need to play on inferior devices, it's that I want to still use the old devices instead of having them gather dust all sad in a corner while my PC is fine. I want to get more than my money's worth out of the devices that were at one point a great love of mine, y'know? There's a decade of memories between all those devices. I have had this PSP since middle school, and I'm in my fifth year of college now. Without a jailbreak, the console would be virtually useless... And that's honestly depressing. Sony is just being ridiculous about it because they're not allowing an end-of-life cycle for the PS4 just yet because some titles will be available on PS5. It's ridiculous that you cannot roll back firmware on a PS4 to a jailbreak-capable firmware. I have zero-use for the PS4 other than streaming. This is preemptively making a current-gen console obsolete to me, and that's honestly killing Sony in a way because of console sales dwindling as people see the potential of other devices. I've played maybe five games on PS4. I cannot tell you the amount of games I played on PS2 and PS3. I'd be here for three and a half hours listing off *memorable* titles. That's the kicker for me.
I think i used something like this in a security class to in order to pass the class with a solid A+ (was a linux kernel exploit that gave me root which i launched as a binary payload file which was executed from a class provided program that had a buffer overflow)
found it i think it was the one containing the substring `Ubuntu 16.04 local root exploit - netfilter target_offset OOB` its still not the exact one but i know it involved the netfilter
I’d love to see Sony release a PS1/2 emulator with as many enhancements as possible, that can install games from disk. I think a good chunk of us would actually pay for it (since it would be from Sony). Sure that OS Now stuff seems to exist, but for some of us it’s, well, not as interesting :)
I believe a lot of the people capable and willing to hack the ps4 like other consoles didn't even know there was a scene behind it, and you might be the person who singlehandidly starts a PS4 Homebrew renaissance
I was surprised to see you didn't mention that PS4 was technically fully owned at the SAMU level a while back, too. The people behind Save Wizard pretty much has to have SAMU Keys to do what they do. It's obviously not public but it's been done. Yeah, the PS4 scene is relatively weak but I think it has to do with more than piracy concerns. Honestly? This gen of consoles just aren't that interesting from a hacking and homebrew standpoint. PS3 can do almost everything PS4 does with homebrew, as well as WiiU. The device isn't a handheld and it's just not so powerful as to warrant deep interest, IMO. Handhelds and power bring interest and that's where I think the coming gen may shine. You get linux on a PS5 and you basically have a powerful PC to work with. Emulators up to Switch (Yuzu) will run on PS5 hardware. Steam will have no problem running just about any PC game it CAN run. Etc.
Security researcher is a deceiving name. Aren't these people more pirates and hackers than "researchers"? Love the vids, this is all interesting stuff.
I suppose with proper code signing crypto, the days of "clever subverting the security mechanism itself" are over, and it's now more of the accessory code providing the way around the security. Thanks for the vid!
I think it would have taken longer if PT hadn't been taken down.
Whats PT?
Ya whats pt
@@AMalas silent hill player teaser
@@MoldyMcdonut silent hill player teaser
I’m still depressed that Silent Hill got cancelled, especially after playing P.T and loving it
I am not much of a gamer, but I love these video's on defeating the security.
Defeating console security gets harder every generation.
Meanwhile at Nintendo: WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY BROKE IN THROUGH THE JOYCON PORTS??
Oh and don't even get me started on their web browsers :)
@@AndrewKennethColborn *sweats in switch lite*
oHh nOoOOoOo
@DAudIcI I mean, smart TV vulnerabilities probably wouldn't get anyone's attention but an Android tablet it still an Android device. I wouldn't be happy if I found out there were security issues with my tablet just because of its hardware...
@@owowowdhxbxgakwlcybwxsimcwx first step? I don't want a first step, I hope systems keep having browser exploits :)
@DAudIcI I wasn't thinking about it in those terms, I was imagining exploits that could be done through software *due* to some kind of hardware vulnerability. Yeah, anything requiring physical access isn't too big of a deal (imo) as long as it's not as simple as "plug in this USB cable and everything is stolen".
Please never change the intro bgm. It's too iconic. Your videos don't have the same feeling without the classic intro bgm.
This. Never change the feel. Keep it grounded.
Also the ending
What's the name?
k0ujPhwlymk or modernvintagegamer.bandcamp.com/track/pacific-drive
True and True
Sony Logic: You can't jailbreak the PS5 if you can't get one.
*[STONKS]*
LOL...then how do they sell consoles?
Lol smort.
*PLAISTAYTCHUN*
@@Matanumi they are selling consoles, without having them
M I S T A K E S W E R E M A D E !
This!
The 'Mistakes were made'-series is the reason i subbed. Its awesome, and im looking forward to more videos!
Mistakes were made is lastly back, thank you
was going to say that too
That intro music too haha
I love every MVG video but the mistakes were made ones always interest me the most tbh. One of my favorites was also the Xbox 360 PartnerNet one too even tho that wasn’t a mistakes were made video lol
Remember, check your PS4 firmware version before updating. It's likely a hack for 7.02 will be found too
I'd like to see some on older consoles.
"Sony likes to issue firmware updates long after the hardware's end of life"
Definitely true for the PSP and its 2015 6.61 Update haha (which got hacked the next day btw.).
yea and ps3 is getting updates in 2020
This is why i love playstation and the homebrew/jailbreak community.
Still better love story than twilight.
and the fact that the PS3 got a update in 2019
@@eepymeowers and 2020
@@morganpg i have one and it still gets updates to this day
While it's not that surprising since PS4 is essentially a x86 PC, I still find it fascinating to discover that it's able to run linux, install steam and have access to your steam library from PS4
It's not an x86 PC, it's just an x86 device, but it is not a PC as we know them. Porting Linux to the PS4 was actually a daunting task and required heavy modifications to the Linux kernel (even if it's x86, that's just the only similarity it has with PCs, everything else is completely different). There's a nice video of fail0verflow explaining this in much more detail.
@referral madness Much like PS5, PS4 is a x86 PC just really low end. $300 Compaq Presario shit that they trick the masses into buying.
Many Steam and Windows games runs natively on PS4 running Linux.
Its not quite the same as a pc... if you watch fail0verflow's breakdown video, they explain how it is different!
ruclips.net/video/VpB49dhk2uQ/видео.html
Check out an old video about PS4 hacking from CCC. PS4 is an x86 device with all usual legacy PC stuff removed. That's why Linux required major modifications to run on the PS4.
Interestingly, the chipset is an Marvell Armada ARM SoC running it's own custom OS.
Congrats on 500k!!!
I’ve your content man!
@hi there u dropped this: 🧂
@@androidmaster3369 lol yeah.
I’d suppose you were trying to be sarcastic since he hasn’t yet reached that amount now, let alone four months ago. In that case, that was pretty lame, not to say obviously disrespectful.
LoL meanwhile you haven't got over 11k views in 7 months😂😂 while he's now well over 500k subs
Ahh yeah, mistakes were made
I know
Barely.
But not by Sony this time. All these exploits were public exploits in the open-source code that Sony used. Of course, the active security research scene around open-source gave Sony the ability to respond before an actual working exploit for their product was made. By the time the working exploit had been made, most of the consoles with the exploitable firmware had been sold to non-techie owners, and most of these owners had upgraded them as prompted, so good luck finding one.
yeah. i was made
People just can't get enough of "mistakes were made"
My favorite thing is that everyone is a "security researcher". No one is a hacker.
It's like a bank robber is actually a "bank security researcher" :p
Kevin Mitnick, anyone?
Carlos Oyuela the art of deception...
Security researcher and hacker aren't mutually exclusive, one is more of a job-title
You need people to test security on systems..
EULA licensing should be considered illegal to enforce by most standards of property law anyhow..
so the researchers are testing the security of felony/copyright crossover and are winning
Hacker utillize security exploits, Security Researcher find those exploits
With the rise of consoles becoming more like PC's, its surprising that homebrew isn't as popular.
@Easy Boost nope
@Easy Boost true but consoles are more popular...the scene is always big ( and lately filled with unnecessary drama) for Nintendo systems
I never understood homebrew when you have a pc that could do it all so much better. I always looked at homebrew as an excuse for running pirated games.
@@sharinglungs3226
Because it's fun.
Sharing Lungs you can do all things in pc but that shit aint fun cuz u know pc can do everything but the console cannot do everything thinking it only makes me excited the fucking posibilities
Love these console security videos. You always explain things in a way that even a simpleton like me can follow.
Ah, perfect timing for my lunch break!
Good stuff man, always informative and good content!
Cheers
What are you having for lunch?
And these videos are the reason why MVG is my favorite retro gaming channel. It's so well documented and put together, I really enjoy them a lot. Thanks a lot sir MVG !
If only Sony spent as much time & effort in keeping their customer's financial data secured.
that was 10 years ago.....
@@andrew6978 And?
@@utubepunk means your comment is irrelevant
@@andrew6978 Shit, man. Ya got me. I'm in shambles. It's so irrelevant... yet here you are.
@Can a swallow swallow? 👍🏼
5:00 "Don not turn off the PS4"
🍩 turn off the PS4
How the sony playstation 5 security was defeated - 2028
i give it 2, 3 years tops...
the day after its launch....
That would be funny though :D
@NbAlIvEr100 What have preoders anything to do with a console security ?
2025**
@@A.Froster lol
I wish console manufacturers would release the "keys" to the console 5 years or so after, production, and support has officially ended Like, they pushed one final update that turned it into a developer unit.
Be pretty cool but as long as these old consoles have access to the companies' stores, there's no way it'll ever happen.
But then it would be very hard to make consoles backwards compatible with those consoles, since they could put fucked up data on the old console's disk/cart and do stuff with the new console.
@@Brick_Eater_ I guess they could. From a surface level, I can see how this would make sense.
But a developer unit is only for developing. When pressing a disc, or manufacturing a cartridge, there is a whole process. So when a console is made backwards compatible, theoretically it could run the program made on the post console death developer unit. But if there's no physical media for it to be drawn from with the new console, then what you have just listed is something that won't really be an issue.
Also, almost every console that has had disc based backwards compatibility (at least to my knowledge) has ran the previous gen software disc in a kind of sandbox mode. The Wii ran Gamecube games in a sandbox mode. The Wii U ran Wii games in a sandbox mode. The Xbox 360 runs Xbox games in a sandbox mode. You get the point. The only one I can think of that I'm not sure about it running in sandbox mode was the PS2 for PS1 discs. And I just don't know if it did or not, because I haven't looked into it enough.
@@RobertSeeJen yeah but the 3DS got hacked through the DS mode, albeit a little long after release. ruclips.net/video/ImR-TdDAIJE/видео.html
@@Brick_Eater_ That's fair. Lol. I've watched that video myself, but I totally forgot about that MSET exploit. That being said though. I feel that would be patched pretty quick. Much like how it was with the 3DS.
Really love these series of yours MVG. It is easy to understand and interesting. I’ve used lots of custom firmware in the 2000s and these vids of yours help me understand how it works.
No matter how much they try, it is almost impossible to stop people from getting what they want
and i love that
I hope there will be more videos about PS4's Linux capability. I imagine as it gets phased out with the release of the PS5 more PS4s will be moded and Linux community around it will have a chance to grow. I like the idea of turning older hardware into useful mini PCs that can still do a decent amount of computing on the cheap for people who cant afford it.
MVG: “The PlayStation 4 WAS a very secure piece of hardware”
Me: I like that
Love your detective work on these MVG! Fascinating part of consumer tech history and ingenuity of the hacking community
Ive waited forever for this episode!
My PS4 Pro is on 7.55 and will be staying there waiting for an exploit.
You got the exploit yet? Or upgrade to 11.00
Waited long for a new video like this! Stay awesome MVG :)
Love your videos man! You have the right knowledge base to explain and allow a deeper view into the hardware / software that is showcased in each video.
Liked & Shared
9:55
That means ps4 gpu is capable of vulkan and drivers are in place.
Then what about DXVK? Looks like you could launch ANY non-dx12 title on that little box
that's exactly what I thought. would be interesting, especially considering how good has Lutris/DXVK got in the near past.
DXVK works just fine, and compatibility is quite high. I played a bunch of D3D11 games on my PS4 Pro, including Prey 2017 (ruclips.net/video/ITWMnxO0dKE/видео.html ) and Shadow Warrior 2. The biggest issue is slow CPU and 8GiB of shared RAM. I mostly used 5 GiB as main RAM and 3 GiB for graphics. Even more interesting you can use PSVR with SteamVR on PS4, because it is supported by OpenHMD.
Works.
ruclips.net/video/hhc9pBHjyf8/видео.html
@@gustavgurke9665 Probably because most of Linux gaming is half baked ports from other platforms and WINE.
@@gustavgurke9665 That being said the same games that have terrible native ports are original to Windows and also run just fine on there, without all the BS that comes with trying to make most Linux distros do anything useful
Love these security-defeated videos, Thanks for making them
its always a good day when MVG releases a video about security
Small correction,with "steam play/proton" enabled you CAN run directX games,just remember that anticheat may flag you in some cases. (And a bit of config may be needed)
But after that,its great for gaming,i use it on my gaming PC so i dont need to use windows (dont like the OS)
Also if you use lutris,you can even play games like overwatch and epic game store games (just keep anticheat in mind)
Why you use cheats? To prove yourselfs re cobards?
@@Niñoratapuntapie Linux has no cheats, but anticheat flags it cause it's different than windows.
Someday they'll be able to crack all firmware versions...
...Someday
Probably in 5 or 6 years, just like the PS3
It will eventually happen , as it has been done for literally every sony console
@@striga314 how very correct you are, I've lost more than a couple ps3's. Now I tear down and clean out all my consoles every year.
@Locke der Boss that is not true.
Someday. Anything can be hacked with enough time and effort.
Love these videos. Hoping to hear more about homebrew on all consoles!
This video goes someway to explain why when selling my PS4 on eBay, I was getting questions about firmware versions.
As I connected it for online services, I always kept it up to date.
Been waiting for this one 😁
Wasn't expecting this video, it's a beautiful day
Yeah me too, i just opened youtube, scrolled down and saw this, i this PS5 will be next.
This video should probably be added to your "Console Security" playlist. I just watched the whole playlist, and this one only came up in the 'recommended' video list, not in the playlist itself. Great content, btw!
Ps5 after 2 weeks of launching
MVG: Mistakes were made
Edit: Ps5 was a mistake
I hope so
@@TombstoneChris that would probably kill the ps5, but as an Xbox Nintendo Fanboy i couldnt Care less
@@just-fun-stuff6753 I'm the same. I haven't been a PlayStation guy since the PlayStation 2.
@@just-fun-stuff6753
I bought a ps4 mainly because of games like God Of War and Ghost Of Tsushima but I don't think the Xbox is as bad as some fanboys make it seem, matter of fact I think Xbox is pushing forward in every aspect of Gaming while Sony is being lazy and relying solely on Exclusives to keep their fans happy.
@@HandheldGamingHQ exactly, I think they got comfortable with the ps4
Imagine both Series X security & PS5 security are exploited? A power house PC for just $399 & $499. There will be huge home brew scene for the next generation of consoles because the hard ware is tempting.
Finally RUclips recommends newly posted videos rather than 5 years old ones.
I LIKE that it didn't use fuses that would blow... means USERS have more control over the hardware they bought.
I guess you could say that _mistakes were made._
Also there is a high chance Sony will try to take this video down, so don't be intimidated by them. Even if you get a strike, you can fight it. Mankalor, a Mario Kart RUclipsr, made a fantastic video about the process because Nintendo is doing the same thing.
@D. Claiming false DMCA - which would be the case here - is a *criminal* federal offense. Just saying...
it won't matter.. one ps4 market are going down... and you can still not able to play the game without bug... and alot ps4 need update... so what you going to get is so so game....
Sony don't care. They let the 6.72 exploit go public.
I think their new way of dealing with exploits is much better than before. Patch and forget. Only new exploits that are under nda will get taken down (which he didn't display any so will be fine).
@@whuzzzup claiming one in bad faith is .
Yes! Been waiting for this video!
My favourite series 🙂
Like PS3 HEN, and it's advancements, I never really thought there would be a way to exploit the later revisions of the console, it's amazing what time and persistence can do, thanks MVG great as always
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"How the Xbox One security was defeated"
Probably never. Never seen system so resilient before
They designed it so thst it couldn't be hacked for less than $600
Actually Xbox One supports homebrew in a way. Anyway can set their console to develop mode and install unsigned apps.
@@OscarOlim Which is part of the reason why it hasn't been hacked (in addition to the investment in making it impossible to hack for less than 600 dollars in gear per console), you can already do homebrew on it
@@sundhaug92 yeah no need to hack something that supports home-brew out of the box
@@sundhaug92 What tool that lets you hack it costs $600?
Im not even into coding and stuff like that but you make it interesting to me, love your vids man.
In my country, all modded versions of PS except PS5 are available. Bless those pirates. It must have saved me $1500+ in gaming. I thing it serves greedy behemoths right for overpricing their games. $60 for just 8-9 hour of a game is extreme of greediness.
God I love the underline beat you are using on your channel. I wish there is a whole song of it haha
The thumbnail should say “MISTAKES WERE MADE” to carry on tradition
Finally, I was waiting for this video for so long. Thanks MVG❤️❤️
That makes me scared that Sony might remove the browser altogether in PS5.
@Oblivian Andy are you new here
Oblivian Andy you’d be surprised how useful it was since the PSP days... without it, it will make modding more tedious since most exploits are made through the internet browser.
Maybe they'll use internet explorer instead. Lmao
@@GoTeamScotch now that would be amazing
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they did, I mean the Switch *still* doesn't have a general purpose web browser for what I assume is that very reason.
I love this intro music. Sometimes I re-watch random MVG videos bc of the mood that music sets.
You know, the really great part about Linux is that it's open source. If there's something you don't like about it, then change it. There's no excuse to dislike Linux when you have total control over it.
Thanks for the interesting content, I usually skip commercials but with these vids I don't hope it helps.
You mentioned "Ring oh mode" you've always been good about differentiating zero from oh (O). And while I feel like I'm nitpicking and while I still do the same thing myself. I feel it must be pointed out.
Likely the first time many are finding out that the PS4 has been exploited.
Great video, Will be waiting for your Xbox One Mistakes Were Made (MWM) video.
He wrote an exploit for the ps4 5.05 update called "the ps4 5.05 exploit."
I see what he had in hacking skills he lacked in creativity.
Dude, I've been waiting for another episode for ages. LOVE THE CONTENT MAN!
Awesome coverage as always, never owned a ps4 but I love the production quality here 😅 , can’t wait to see more coverage of the ps5 now that we’ve seen some real hardware shots (but no UI) . I’m still rooting for stadia lol they’ve got a lot to prove from where I’m standing now haha
Ive been hoping for a video on this subject. Your security videos are my favorite
I like this very much and your research is awesome. Could you make some more "how security was defeated" of retro consoles? Im rly interested in retro console hacking and liked all your retro console documentaries
I just discovery last week that ps4 was quite hackable, when I was scrolling around youtube and Shesez started making videos of out of bounds PS4 exclusives. So I did my 3 minutes googling and your videos just came about to fullfil the gaps. I am impressed at how long this has being under the radar for most commonfolk like me. Great video all the best. I wonder if mistakes were made on XOne too... Maybe hackers are happy enough with how easy and supported by microsoft to make any machine as a dev mode console.
7.02 soon™
Just waiting on a userland exploit.
It very likely 7.02 will be hacked. Don't firmware update! Just be patient folks.
Any hope for 7.50? I kinda remember updating to play BB with a friend, after holding out for a looong time, and instantly regretting
there will always be hope, just need to wait
@@BigPandaGamer just wait until the PS4 become EOL.
From what I've noticed on the last years hackers are waiting for that before releasing their exploits.
@@andremalerba5281
The current kernel exploit was supposed to be the EOL exploit, but theFlow disclosed it early. There was a group that knew about it for a few years. Now we just have to hope they were sitting on more than one kexploit or that someone can find another needle in the haystack.
Nice coverage, MUG ! 👍
Soon: “How the PS5 security was defeated by a small plastic fork”
"How the PS6 security was defeated with a 20-sided die"
i am waiting for that video
@@supernintendo182 "A Nat 20! Now play this cracked *insert crappy AAA game series title here* for me"
When I hear that music hit, I know something's about to go down lol. Oh btw, congrats on being soooo close to 500k! Well deserved!
2027: How the Sony Playstation 5 Security Was Defeated
*2021
Thank you for this video! I had no idea the PS4 had been able to run homebrew and its security was broken, and i've had the system since launch day.
Am I the only one congratulating him on 500k? 🤔
so close to 500k! 1 Mil is right around the corner MVG, well done.
I wonder how Proton/Wine runs on that.
Gunna take a guess, and say not good the PS4/Pro are like mid tier 2014 PC's using custom hardware so probably not very good I wonder what games would detect the specs as though...
@@0Synergy If my trashy Intel UHD 620 PC runs Proton/Wine really well then I believe the PS4 would run really damn good with some optimizations then even better
he showed linux gaming in use, dont know if he ran any winblows only games though, i mostly play older stuff on my aging hardware.
I thought the steamplay thingy he showed was basically just that
All I can say is it will run very well, considering how well Portal 2 ran on a OG PS4 hacked by fail0verflow at Console Hacking 2016, while it was on Gentoo Linux.
Another amazing video. 499K subscribers going onwards to 500k soon! Best of luck!
It took Sony until June 2020 to get a public facing bug bounty program put together for the Playstation. If Sony takes it serious which I think they will, future exploits for the PS4 and PS5 being released to the public will be scarce since getting paid will be more enticing.
This is all interesting, but could you do a video on Commodore 64 copy protection please? You covered a lot of systems so far, but the 8 bit computer legend wasn't on the list yet. Let's change that (-;
- Wide head protection
- Track synchronisation
- Sync Counting
- Special formatting (Custom Formats) e.g. using tracks with a non-standard header
- Intentional Disk Errors
- Track Skew
- Fat Tracks
- Half Tracks
- Extra Tracks
- Changed Bitrates
- "Signatures" in the Header, Sector, or Tail gaps
- Long Sectors
- Long Tracks
- Bad GCR/Unformatted/"Weak Bits"
- Signature (Key) Tracks
- No SYNC
- "SpiraDisc"
- Rapidlock
pick one, or some, or all (:
Let's do a poll,
how many of your viewers would be interested in that kind of stuff?
(my guess, the majority)
9:47 Games using DirectX still may work under x86 Linux, using Steam's compatibility tool. GTA V is one of them.
You have such awesome content i could and probably have watched everything you've made so far. I remember you back from the Xbox homebrew scene dude you are a freakin legend. Keep up the good work,
I think the Steam games aspect can be quite attractive. Sure you're probably better off getting either the official PS4 ports or getting a proper PC, but for those people out there who may not want to all out on a gaming pc this might be interesting.
Maybe an in-depth video about it? Compatibility and what not.
"Exploit by Al Azif" can't say I expected to see a Demonbane reference here of all scenes.
Ah, yes. Please.
Someone figure out how to get this console perma-jailbroken so we can use the built-in PS2 for emulation, considering Sony couldn't be fucking bothered to put any PSX, PS2, and PS3 onto their consoles, even though it is clear as day that they've already figured it out.
It's built-in, but was never enabled by any update.
All of these sequels and absolutely no way to play the originals because Sony doesn't give a shit about the ones who made them what they are today. That's why Microsoft is going to whip their ass this generation.
Edit: Fastest I've ever made it to one of your videos @MVG. The algorithm is working properly today.
it was always mystery to me why people wanna emulators on weak devices, if you have best emulator of PS 2 on PC. why wasting time on inferior emulators
@@ultimatehistoryofvideogame4160 cause a lot of people already own PSs and this breathes a whole new world into them without spending any extra $
Honestly, I see a lot of the same mistakes being made by M$ as last gen. The games just aren't there. Halo looks like ass. And with ps4 backwards compatibility, a lot of people will go with ps5 simply because they can play their existing library of games.
@@ultimatehistoryofvideogame4160 I currently use a PC with an R5 2600 and an RX5600XT with an overclocked BIOS.
I just like the versatility of jailbreaks and what they can do. I *rarely* ever use my PS4 anymore, save for streaming Netflix, Hulu, RUclips, etc.
I have a jailbroken PS3 Slim and tbh I love it.
I also have a jailbroken Rev-001 Nintendo Wii from '06.
I also have a jailbroken PSP.
It's not that I need to play on inferior devices, it's that I want to still use the old devices instead of having them gather dust all sad in a corner while my PC is fine.
I want to get more than my money's worth out of the devices that were at one point a great love of mine, y'know? There's a decade of memories between all those devices.
I have had this PSP since middle school, and I'm in my fifth year of college now.
Without a jailbreak, the console would be virtually useless... And that's honestly depressing.
Sony is just being ridiculous about it because they're not allowing an end-of-life cycle for the PS4 just yet because some titles will be available on PS5. It's ridiculous that you cannot roll back firmware on a PS4 to a jailbreak-capable firmware.
I have zero-use for the PS4 other than streaming. This is preemptively making a current-gen console obsolete to me, and that's honestly killing Sony in a way because of console sales dwindling as people see the potential of other devices.
I've played maybe five games on PS4.
I cannot tell you the amount of games I played on PS2 and PS3. I'd be here for three and a half hours listing off *memorable* titles.
That's the kicker for me.
@Uncle Ho You nailed it right on the money, dude. Well said.
You are amazing man, Just dont stop. Please
Weirdly enough, I literally just sold my PS4 today to make way for the PS5. I miss my buddy already. That's all I have to add to this discussion.
Same here. Sold my slim ps4
Help me sell my Slim too🙏😅
My PS4 has a defective eject disc button so I'll be keeping it.
Why would you do that shit? I always keep my tech instead of selling it. Smh.
Been waiting for this for a long time, my friend.
I think i used something like this in a security class to in order to pass the class with a solid A+ (was a linux kernel exploit that gave me root which i launched as a binary payload file which was executed from a class provided program that had a buffer overflow)
That is awesome dude! I'm a Linux fan myself, and that sort of thing just makes me so happy! Really wanna see your work some day
i know it was when exploit db looked like this web.archive.org/web/20181004151223/www.exploit-db.com/
found it i think it was the one containing the substring `Ubuntu 16.04 local root exploit - netfilter target_offset OOB` its still not the exact one but i know it involved the netfilter
@@ViZageFader well i try to keep it off the radar if i can because I no pro im mainly good at doing research based upon info i can gather from a host.
It gets even better, when searching gbatemp and github you'll find ways of running GB GBC and GBA games natively without the use for emulation
I’d love to see Sony release a PS1/2 emulator with as many enhancements as possible, that can install games from disk. I think a good chunk of us would actually pay for it (since it would be from Sony). Sure that OS Now stuff seems to exist, but for some of us it’s, well, not as interesting :)
I'd rather have the emulator build in the console but that you can put your ps1/ps2 discs in a ps5 and just play it
Honestly. The PS5 could definitely emulate PS1 games and has the power to run PCSX2 for example, don’t see why they don’t
@@3jake5mee cuz their idiots they would rather charge you for PS2 games like they did on the PS4
Why wud anyone buy that shit
I believe a lot of the people capable and willing to hack the ps4 like other consoles didn't even know there was a scene behind it, and you might be the person who singlehandidly starts a PS4 Homebrew renaissance
microsoft "we have made an unhackable system"
"uhhmm. buckle up boys"
More like not as desirable for hackers
Great video. Up until watching this I didn't even know that any current gen consoles aside from the switch had been hacked. The more you know.
Whenever I hear this music I know that it's the sound of a hardware manufacturer's heart breaking.
This is the video I’ve been waiting for thanks.
I was surprised to see you didn't mention that PS4 was technically fully owned at the SAMU level a while back, too.
The people behind Save Wizard pretty much has to have SAMU Keys to do what they do. It's obviously not public but it's been done.
Yeah, the PS4 scene is relatively weak but I think it has to do with more than piracy concerns. Honestly? This gen of consoles just aren't that interesting from a hacking and homebrew standpoint. PS3 can do almost everything PS4 does with homebrew, as well as WiiU.
The device isn't a handheld and it's just not so powerful as to warrant deep interest, IMO.
Handhelds and power bring interest and that's where I think the coming gen may shine. You get linux on a PS5 and you basically have a powerful PC to work with. Emulators up to Switch (Yuzu) will run on PS5 hardware. Steam will have no problem running just about any PC game it CAN run. Etc.
Yeah, hope the next gen gets hacked soon..
I always find this kind of topic interesting and the main reason I subbed to you!
To play the latest games you need to update to the latest firmware which is then not jail breakable. It's far from being defeated.
yep, clickbait title, smh.
Security researcher is a deceiving name. Aren't these people more pirates and hackers than "researchers"? Love the vids, this is all interesting stuff.
Hackers yes, but most of them don't want piracy. When hackers are largely uninterested (see PS3 before Linux was removed), not much happens
The issue of DirectX compatibility could be solved using DXVK, DirectX to Vulkan compatibility layer 9:50
Don't forget the one model with 2TB storage (the 500 Million edition). Great vid; thanks!!! And don't forget about backporting!
apparently you can install homebrew apps on the XBOX ONE via "Dev Mode"
Yeah you can, its pretty simple - just pay for the dev mode
I suppose with proper code signing crypto, the days of "clever subverting the security mechanism itself" are over, and it's now more of the accessory code providing the way around the security. Thanks for the vid!