The 2011 PlayStation Network PSN Hack - What Really Happened? | MVG

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  • The Sony PlayStation Network hack of 2011 was the worst 30 days of the history of the company. In this episode we take a look at the timeline of events, understand the motives, assess who was responsible and how the hack actually occurred.
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  • @WaysideWade
    @WaysideWade 4 года назад +2426

    You have earned a trophy: "Public Private Keys"
    Brilliant!

    • @xflarearcadia1766
      @xflarearcadia1766 4 года назад +36

      Yeah, he nailed it with that one.

    • @littlenyancat5754
      @littlenyancat5754 4 года назад +62

      I simply love the humor hackers use in their powerpoints, the irony is just the best

    • @IngwiePhoenix
      @IngwiePhoenix 4 года назад +32

      That is a slide from the Chaos Computer Club presentation about the PS3 hacks. You can find the talk still on youtube, its brilliant. ^-^

    • @xflarearcadia1766
      @xflarearcadia1766 4 года назад +6

      @@IngwiePhoenix
      Thanks Phoenix! I think it's always important to give credit. 🧐✨

    • @xureality
      @xureality 4 года назад +9

      @@xflarearcadia1766 you want to particularly search for "27c3 console hacking" (without quotes)

  • @MrMario2011
    @MrMario2011 4 года назад +629

    I worked at a game shop around the time this happened, about a week into the outage people started trading in their PS3s for Xbox 360s. By the end of it all we had stacks of PS3s, discounted them, and could barely move them for a few months. Meanwhile we couldn't keep an Xbox 360 around for any significant amount of time due to so many people switching over. A lot of trust was eroded and people didn't want to wait for PSN to come back online!

    • @eddie947
      @eddie947 4 года назад +22

      I sold my ps3 and got a 360 but a week later psn was back online

    • @overlordalfredo
      @overlordalfredo 4 года назад +50

      People are just inherently dumb...

    • @Whep
      @Whep 4 года назад +3

      BFRIEND IMAA. FRAKAINING DAGGY AND IF YOU WNANA APAISJS STUENE FIGTH ME B FRIEND

    • @jillhopkins4842
      @jillhopkins4842 4 года назад +8

      Were the customers confident to purchase a monthly subscription for Online Multiplayer on Xbox 360?

    • @shatterz5120
      @shatterz5120 3 года назад +3

      @Bakamalian nobody asked

  • @sgtbaa
    @sgtbaa 4 года назад +1075

    This happened when I was 8 years old. I remember at my church I asked my youth group leader if we could pray for the servers to come back online even though I was an Xbox player. He told me that it would be inappropriate to pray for something like that.

    • @Petitephysiquebarre
      @Petitephysiquebarre 4 года назад +128

      That's an amazing story, haha. Maybe gamers do need some sort of patron saint to pray to when the servers go down. Thanks for a good chuckle!

    • @summersky77
      @summersky77 4 года назад +113

      You were an 8-year old gamer...it was TOTALLY appropriate to pray for something like that! I would have gone straight to the pastor to complain about your youth group leader. 😂

    • @MrMaikiu
      @MrMaikiu 4 года назад +54

      What a boomer

    • @xbon1
      @xbon1 4 года назад +68

      now you see why religion is BS.

    • @Goat0423
      @Goat0423 4 года назад +21

      As if there isn’t other things that do, gotta love hating gays because our book says so!

  • @jangelelcangry
    @jangelelcangry 4 года назад +690

    Imagine an attack in times like this where a lot of games requires internet connection and most people buys premium subscriptions.

    • @MLWJ1993
      @MLWJ1993 4 года назад +33

      You're probably out of business pretty soon after when everyone goes to the competition. 🤔

    • @Sgt-Wolf
      @Sgt-Wolf 4 года назад +31

      "the nerds shall inherit the earth"

    • @GeddyRC
      @GeddyRC 4 года назад +37

      People were really pissed off. Iirc this happened right around Christmas and nobody could use their brand new playstations.

    • @shawnpitman876
      @shawnpitman876 4 года назад +49

      @@GeddyRC No, it wasn't at Christmas. That was a completely different hack. You'd know that if you had even bothered to watch the video, moron.
      That attack was also perpetrated by the Lizard Squad, not Anonymous.

    • @happyguy5025
      @happyguy5025 4 года назад +9

      Yeah funny how they want all your infomation yet always end up getting leaks, privacy is important to everyone as all it takes is one leak and it can and will screw your life. (Ironic I'm saying this on RUclips, a subsidiary of Google).
      I ended up getting an Xbox 360 because of the outage and enjoyed many of the exclusives before finally getting a PC in 2012 and haven't looked back since, bought a used PS4 a few years back for £100 that still works just for the likes of The Last Of Us, God Of War, Uncharted although haven't really gotten around to playing any of them because of all the games PC has.

  • @einsteinx2
    @einsteinx2 4 года назад +758

    “We’re not aware of any unpatched servers” exactly, that’s why you got hacked hahaha

  • @JasonPullara
    @JasonPullara 4 года назад +831

    "There was nothing on this scale since, and hopefully there never will be"
    Equifax: hold my beer

    • @DumStrung
      @DumStrung 4 года назад +37

      You might also have heard but here in Canada, very recently Desjardins bank just got most of their customers' info leaked. Although it wasn't an hack per say it was still crazy. Some ex employee or current employee back then actually had access to that somehow and stole everything. I'm almost positive everyone's info got leaked because all my family and myself were affected by this, Also I haven't seen anyone that I know that wasn't affected lol. This is so terrible that they most likely have all our Social Insurance Numbers and could just fake our identity at any time.

    • @FBicoolshaman
      @FBicoolshaman 4 года назад +5

      World of Warcraft and League of Legends servers were hacked too

    • @ganondalf8090
      @ganondalf8090 4 года назад +18

      mfw he probably said that as the nintendo network id hacks were happening

    • @Bewefau
      @Bewefau 4 года назад +2

      @@DumStrung nope didn't hear about it its Canada nobody care's lol

    • @DumStrung
      @DumStrung 4 года назад +22

      @@Bewefau Figured as much. Most Americans (not all) have their heads in their own asses which is why you have people like Trump as president.

  • @twocows360
    @twocows360 4 года назад +544

    I remember thinking "ha, serves them right" at the time. After watching this, my immediate reaction was "ha, serves them right."

    • @GreenSwede
      @GreenSwede 4 года назад +51

      @@cosmicluna5783 he meant the damage caused for sony served them right, not the customers

    • @Ealdor-Bana
      @Ealdor-Bana 4 года назад +15

      I think this is small minded but i do respect it and i do think sony made mistakes that could of easily be avoided.
      Personally you have zero right to hack software regardless of changes that stop previous features. Especially during the live service trend we have now games like F76 & anthem have miss-sold but does that give anyone he right to illegally hack?? No, no one has any legal right to hack under any circumstances.

    • @SpankyJ
      @SpankyJ 4 года назад +74

      @@Ealdor-Bana if I buy a thing, I should be able to do with that thing as I want. If I buy a lightbulb and want to throw it down and smash it I can. If i buy your console that can play mp3 mp4 and DVDs but you dont allow it in your software, I should be able to add the feature myself for MY item.
      The "internet of things" is a thing because manufactures know putting software on their hardware means they get to have proprietary rights that keep consumers from having access to everything. It is why you cant get your fridge fixed by a repairman because it's an issue related to the motherboard and has to be a technician that works for the official company, etc etc etc.
      Apple is the WORST with this, and John Deer shit. Farmers get fucked the hardest. 65 thousand dollar piece of equipment stops working and they cant do shit until some tech nerd from john Deer comes in and flashes the bios on the motherboard of the tractor. Real shit, look it up. Its fucking disgusting

    • @TheDemocrab
      @TheDemocrab 4 года назад +30

      @@Ealdor-Bana Sometimes the laws are incorrect and they should damn well be stopping the companies from taking advantage so hard before they stop consumers making them eff off and fixing their problems.

    • @SyphistPrime
      @SyphistPrime 4 года назад +21

      Imo the damage to Sony as a company feels like they deserved it. They removed a feature that was a selling point, then arrested 2 people who didn't even do anything wrong yet. They were just discovering a way to modify their own hardware. Not to mention that if the accusations for Sony's security back then were true, then holy shit they deserved a kick in the pants for handling that poorly.

  • @MrMysterious420
    @MrMysterious420 4 года назад +99

    I remember this like it was yesterday, I must have blinked and now it's almost 10 years later.

    • @Honeypot-x9s
      @Honeypot-x9s 4 года назад +8

      Ya I know right, same remember it like it was yesterday and Makes me feel so damn old ;_;

    • @Themunit1
      @Themunit1 4 года назад +7

      wait what, ps3 is not nextgen anymore?

    • @Khaelopr
      @Khaelopr 4 года назад +3

      The good old days

    • @luigi95-
      @luigi95- 3 года назад

      ..

  • @StephanieHua
    @StephanieHua 4 года назад +243

    As an “IT Guy”, I use Qualys to scan all of of my clients’ infrastructure and tell them.. “hey, your switches use old ass OpenSSH, and your webservers use old freakin’s Apache running on Windows Server 2003. It’s gonna cost xxx amount to upgrade”.
    They just ignore and say upgrade the firewalls.
    Now I can show them this video because video games seems to be the easiest language to convey “technical jargon” and possibly even scare people to sign our quotes!
    edit: I get it, a lot of these businesses (especially small ones) can’t afford to invest in their IT structure. Heck, even some of them say their business is “insignificant” and has “nothing to steal”. What’s good for me is that some of my financial clients have a “Compliance Officer” who can help push for better security. In the end, it’s just business and no hard feelings. the “Computer guys” give the suggestion and It’s up to the businesses to decide if they will sign the quotes.

    • @TN_AU
      @TN_AU 4 года назад +6

      Or you should have just hacked their servers and put hello world and say see, how easy was that.

    • @manhandstv1022
      @manhandstv1022 4 года назад +9

      @@TN_AU The C level guys would argue that the message is infact a feature and try to sell it.

    • @johnsimon8457
      @johnsimon8457 4 года назад +10

      lots of places run their IT like the worst slumlords, just putting drywall over the sewer water stains running through the ceiling and walls.
      Anything goes wrong: "Well that's a matter for the courts."

    • @nightbirdds
      @nightbirdds 4 года назад +18

      So much this. It's even worse if you're a CISO and trying to do the right thing, but the suits only see dollars and cents and won't invest the resources to get up to a reasonable level of security. Then when inevitably someone gets in, guess who gets blamed and fired?

    • @berryquick6224
      @berryquick6224 4 года назад +1

      many firms treat IT as a cost center, even though their main services requires IT..

  • @xxElyonxx
    @xxElyonxx 4 года назад +66

    i was in high school when this happened and let me just say that hell hath no fury like an upper-middle-class teenage jock unable to get virtual headshots on strangers.

  • @GolDGreg
    @GolDGreg 4 года назад +69

    Here’s the information the hackers may have obtained:
    Literally everything besides your social security number

    • @Furzkampfbomber
      @Furzkampfbomber 4 года назад +6

      So, is playing on PSN everything you've hoped for? _Yes._
      And what did it cost you? _Everything._

    • @euvo_sound
      @euvo_sound 3 года назад +5

      Tiktok does the same on its cringe-fueling users without their consent lol

  • @symol30872
    @symol30872 4 года назад +831

    "MISTAKES WERE MADE!"

    • @Locutus
      @Locutus 4 года назад

      There were no mistakes made.

    • @adamsaintgermain6622
      @adamsaintgermain6622 4 года назад +12

      Mistakes are always made, according to mvg :)

    • @picc9000
      @picc9000 4 года назад +3

      Favorite theme song on RUclips

    • @zackrosado3749
      @zackrosado3749 4 года назад +17

      @@Locutus mistakes were definetly made bro.

    • @Lewis360
      @Lewis360 4 года назад +6

      Yeah Sony made a huge u turn on their commitment to allow Linux on the PS3.

  • @ProtosMerkabah
    @ProtosMerkabah 4 года назад +210

    I remember I had recently gotten a PS3 when this happened (It came free with my parent's TV). I was honestly worried that hackers got my Debit Card details and were going to empty my account.
    To be fair, I was a poor Uni student at the time XD.

    • @schemar17
      @schemar17 4 года назад +9

      A free PS3?

    • @RiccardoMontefusco97
      @RiccardoMontefusco97 4 года назад +4

      Same here, I bought a PS3 a month before this happened...

    • @julianx2rl
      @julianx2rl 4 года назад +11

      @@schemar17 - Well... it was probably "Free" as in, not really due to the TV's price.

    • @DJCosmicLatte
      @DJCosmicLatte 4 года назад +11

      @@schemar17 Probably something like Aaron's or Rent-A-Center where you lease a big ticket item and they throw in a "free" bonus item because you're actually paying way more than both items would cost up front for the convenience of making payments.

    • @magsec5
      @magsec5 4 года назад

      That’s the only way they could inflate their console numbers against Xbox lol.

  • @xtalviper
    @xtalviper 4 года назад +70

    That intro music is now the "Unsolved Mysteries" intro for video games.

    • @jillhopkins4842
      @jillhopkins4842 4 года назад +1

      Laughing Out Loud! Both instrumentals sounds similar.

  • @Throggy
    @Throggy 4 года назад +6

    I remember when this happened. I was super big into Call of Duty and a lot of people who played Call of Duty on the PS3 went out and bought Xbox 360’s just so they could continue to play Call of Duty. A lot of RUclipsrs who played COD specifically on the PS3 pretty much had to go out and buy a 360 as well so they could upload videos. It was definitely a strange time for Sony, and I’m glad I watched this video because I only knew some bits and pieces of information. This video was really well done MVG!

    • @rmaaniii
      @rmaaniii 2 года назад +1

      No wonder a lot of good memory videos of cod are on 360

  • @manhandstv1022
    @manhandstv1022 4 года назад +63

    Aww man, Im getting old. This feels like yesterday.

    • @Furzkampfbomber
      @Furzkampfbomber 4 года назад

      Wasn't that the day after the Titanic sunk?

    • @dr.samsung_8855
      @dr.samsung_8855 4 года назад

      @@Furzkampfbomber yeah, and that was after the day John Wilkes Booth shot president Lincoln.

    • @luigi95-
      @luigi95- 3 года назад

      Me too..

  • @shrodeseva
    @shrodeseva 4 года назад +169

    13:37, I see what you did there

    • @Lukexxxxxx
      @Lukexxxxxx 4 года назад +5

      Came here to say this, you earned your upvoted

    • @ntodek
      @ntodek 4 года назад +1

      What am I missing?

    • @recklesflam1ngo968
      @recklesflam1ngo968 4 года назад +1

      @@ntodek leet speeak

    • @erikheijden9828
      @erikheijden9828 4 года назад +14

      It's only 13:36 when you play the video

    • @nathanddrews
      @nathanddrews 4 года назад +3

      1337 hax, brah.

  • @ZeroHourProductions407
    @ZeroHourProductions407 4 года назад +169

    Sony's arrogance just screams "look how many ways I can eff up and STILL make money hand over fist."

    • @trinidad17
      @trinidad17 4 года назад +8

      Well that's why they target kids I guess.

    • @diarykeeper
      @diarykeeper 4 года назад +14

      You should hear the story of how they turned the guy with the wiimote idea down...
      Then he went to Nintendo...

    • @lra1095
      @lra1095 4 года назад +1

      @@diarykeeper Or how they turned down The Beatles saying 'rock music is dead it's all motion controls now'

  • @WrestlingWithGaming
    @WrestlingWithGaming 4 года назад +8

    Great video. I remember the uproar when this all went down but didn't know all of these details. Seeing the entire story laid out like this was really cool. I may be remembering things incorrectly but I don't even remember there being too much of a backlash against Sony over this. I mostly just remember my circle of friends being mad that PSN was down. Maybe they all just had bad credit and little to worry about lol.
    I'd like to add that the CD-I's online system never had a security breach 😑

  • @john_john_john
    @john_john_john 4 года назад +217

    6:25 wait, a year of FREE identity theft protection? That sounds like the thing they should be giving everyone for free, forever, by default, always, to everyone.
    Also, their free games were bugged: I remember picking some twin stick shooter I can't remember the name and maybe Infamous, and only the twin stick shooter went through. It burned the 2 free games and only credited one. lolsony...

    • @Reydriel
      @Reydriel 4 года назад +15

      RIP. I had two accounts so I managed to get all 4, and all worked perfectly fine. In fact, those games made up half my game library back then lmao

    • @MisterJayTwitch
      @MisterJayTwitch 4 года назад +5

      Dead Nation I'm sure was the name of the twin stick shooter that was given out after the hack. According to a search; inFamous, Little Big Planet, Wipeout HD and Ratchet and Clank: Quest for Booty were the other games given as options to download.
      I'm form the UK and I'm sure we only had a choice of 4 games, Ratchet and Clank wasn't an option for us. I remember it wasn't very clear at all that you could only select 2 of the games (out of the available 4) and assuming I'd get all 4 I ended claiming the first two which was Dead Nation and inFamous. If I knew you could only select 2 games then I wouldn't have picked Dead Nation for sure!

    • @TheRetrostorian
      @TheRetrostorian 4 года назад +4

      Yeah I remember them giving us free games and home items and everything worked perfectly for me and most people. Sucks to be you. Microsoft was just like, whoops.

    • @svenbtb
      @svenbtb 4 года назад +1

      Ohhhh right that's why I have Stardust HD, haha

    • @maggiejetson7904
      @maggiejetson7904 4 года назад +2

      It is just a check off item to avoid class action lawyers demanding another extra billion dollars.

  • @evertonc1448
    @evertonc1448 4 года назад +151

    The fact my home server had better security than PSN still cracks me up to this day. Who the hell uses outdated server software, lol.

    • @SyphistPrime
      @SyphistPrime 4 года назад +16

      Sony, that's who.

    • @ThatsPety
      @ThatsPety 4 года назад +24

      honestly, its just hilariously bad. when you use such big software, the entire world is constantly pushing to see if they can break it, so pretty much certain that any fairly out of date version will have well known vulnerabilities. Yet they still kept it out of date...with millions and millions of users' personal data on it...with non-salted passwords and identifiable data in plaintext....and lied about the outdated software when they were warned LMFAO

    • @thiefrules
      @thiefrules 4 года назад +19

      "if it works, don't fix it"
      but mainly it's managers and higher ups who refuse to pay for licenses or hardware to newer stuff. if everything works fine, why do we need IT. if something breaks, why do we have IT.

    • @KiRaShiKReaTiVe
      @KiRaShiKReaTiVe 4 года назад +4

      Literally every company traded on the stock market uses outdated software. Why? _STOCKHOLDERS_

    • @Executivebird
      @Executivebird 4 года назад +2

      Everton C they got a server from wish lol but Sony was good until the hackers didn’t get their free 2k

  • @DerindenTeknoloji
    @DerindenTeknoloji 4 года назад +8

    "System currently undergoing maintenance"

  • @andrewpiroli482
    @andrewpiroli482 4 года назад +23

    The welcome back package introduced me to the Little Big Planet and Infamous franchises, so that was a nice bright side.

  • @havens1515
    @havens1515 4 года назад +6

    One of my friends from college was hired by Sony in information security shortly after this happened. He said that the state of things when he arrived was beyond terrible. He helped them secure things quite a bit, though, and was still working for them the last time I talked to him (about 6 months ago.)

    • @Andre217
      @Andre217 4 года назад +1

      Awesome did he say things are looking better now?

  • @iMagic16
    @iMagic16 4 года назад +171

    I remember this event vividly... Back when Anonymous was something to be feared :)

    • @PicturesqueGames
      @PicturesqueGames 4 года назад +57

      Anonymous got infested by soyfaced cucks, so much so that all the fun people and the core just switched the titles to disassociate from the cringe. Lizard squad to example.

    • @Lock2002ful
      @Lock2002ful 4 года назад +26

      “cucks”? lol
      Ok, Trumptard. You obviously know nothing about (activist) hackers if you think that they’re leaning left or right.

    • @Thicc_Boyo
      @Thicc_Boyo 4 года назад +52

      Anonymous was a joke back then and still is.

    • @NobleRaider2747
      @NobleRaider2747 4 года назад +7

      @@Thicc_Boyo not really

    • @jp3354
      @jp3354 4 года назад +10

      No one ever feared anonymous lol

  • @Americandude1994
    @Americandude1994 4 года назад +3

    I was pretty young when all of this happened and I had no clue what was going on. Thanks for explaining it all, it's interesting to know the story behind it.

    • @luigi95-
      @luigi95- 3 года назад

      How many years old were you

  • @Eighty_Eight88
    @Eighty_Eight88 4 года назад +3

    I was 16 years old in 2011, and playing CoD on PS3 was the main way I hung out with my closest friends-All of whom lived in different states (USA). I didn't understand all the specifics at the time other than "Sony got hacked" but I just remember being completely baffled at how long the PSN was down, and it just sucking so much that I couldn't hang with my friends online.

  • @angrythomas6954
    @angrythomas6954 4 года назад +362

    We're stopping all people from trying to edit our software..
    Anonymous: "So you have chosen death"

    • @knightninja8714
      @knightninja8714 4 года назад +3

      What happened to Anonymous?

    • @angrythomas6954
      @angrythomas6954 4 года назад +9

      @@knightninja8714 nothing they allegedly hacked Sony for stoping the tampering of sonys software

    • @knightninja8714
      @knightninja8714 4 года назад +8

      @@angrythomas6954 I mean, I haven't heard anything from anonymous in awhile.

    • @TVIDS123
      @TVIDS123 4 года назад +35

      KNightNinja87 anonymous isn’t one entity. It’s 99% script kiddies thinking they’re cool.

    • @ceejayszee
      @ceejayszee 4 года назад +11

      @@TVIDS123 It's 100% Script Kiddies

  • @fpscanada3862
    @fpscanada3862 4 года назад +24

    man, i remember my friends older brother was having a mental breakdown when he couldnt play mw2 and every day i would ask my friend if the network was back up... I played on PC

    • @epicbread1310
      @epicbread1310 4 года назад +8

      i knew i would find a comment with someone raging over mw2

    • @luigi95-
      @luigi95- 3 года назад

      Lool

  • @miguelcf2506
    @miguelcf2506 4 года назад +4

    This was almost 10 years ago and I still think about this and how we are not 100% secure. Great content and video very informative. Keep the good work

    • @trevtheimposter2255
      @trevtheimposter2255 4 года назад +1

      We never really will be tbh, like theres always someone who can get your info. Really makes you think about what we put online 🤔

    • @tnaplastic2182
      @tnaplastic2182 Год назад +1

      @@trevtheimposter2255 That was one of the reasons for the hack... Awareness...

  • @mirage809
    @mirage809 4 года назад +8

    Oh man, I remember this one. Was in highschool when it happened. I remember it being on the local news quite regularly and so many people were suddenly all talking about internet security as if they understood any of it. Some talking head in my country called a DDOS attack a very advanced form of hacking. Biggest laugh I've ever had while watching the news.

  • @marscaleb
    @marscaleb 4 года назад +4

    I really appreciate this; there was a LOT of misinformation about this event and it is a service to the community - even the world - to lay out the details correctly. There was a lot here that I had wrong information about.

  • @therealsunnyk
    @therealsunnyk 4 года назад +3

    Much appreciated. I've got to say your videos are becoming an authoritative resource on a lot of these matters, similar to how Techmoan is sometimes referred to by Wikipedia. You simplify them so anyone can understand, but have the technical depth to avoid making serious errors, or skipping vital information.

  • @DrDemoman74
    @DrDemoman74 4 года назад +7

    such a great video, no random opinions, just the facts- absolutely love your vids.

  • @jesusleal6262
    @jesusleal6262 4 года назад +5

    This breach helped me choose my major in cyber security. Great video!

  • @reecerox2
    @reecerox2 4 года назад +84

    I remember not being able to play Black Ops with my mates from school and it was a terrible time. To be greeted with the choice of some relatively mediocre games upon PSN's return was a bit of a slap in the face, too. Wipeout HD was the only good game of the lot.

    • @JuicyPlayer
      @JuicyPlayer 4 года назад +15

      Infamous was pretty good too , I didn’t really care about the series until I tried it for free.

    • @genericjosh96
      @genericjosh96 4 года назад +6

      Infamous was a pretty good game as well

    • @DJCosmicLatte
      @DJCosmicLatte 4 года назад +6

      I was very much interested in LittleBigPlanet and thrilled that it was one of the games available. I picked Wipeout for the second because I didn't know anything about any of the other games available and racing was up my alley 🤷

    • @the_fluffinator
      @the_fluffinator 4 года назад +2

      LittleBigPlanet was awesome!

    • @thaiboypsp3000
      @thaiboypsp3000 4 года назад +3

      You just don't have the taste in game it seems.

  • @Chrisboy265
    @Chrisboy265 4 года назад +52

    Anonymous to players when they brought down PSN: “Some of you will have your personal information stolen, but that is the sacrifice I’m willing to make.”

  • @xirtus
    @xirtus 4 года назад

    Fascinating digging. You've done a good thing with sharing this documentary here. We remember.

  • @komplex8091
    @komplex8091 4 года назад +1

    I remember play Gran Turismo 5 back in the day and using the share car feature to allow my friends online to borrow my vehicles to use for events. Sadly, you have to be online in order to take the cars back off and while they were shareable, the owner couldn't use them. All of my best cars from the game were locked off for a month and i remember coming home from school everyday and being sad when I couldnt get them back. At least in the end I got Infamous out of it which is now one of my favorite PS3 games ever.

  • @stz03
    @stz03 4 года назад +19

    Damn, this just reminds me how feared the Anonymous were at the time. #Rip

    • @shmookins
      @shmookins 3 года назад +2

      They are a joke. Even in this video it is stated they aren't skilled enough for such an attack, Just a bunch of emo teens in their desperate attempt to try and look 'coolz1!1' because they have nothing going on for them.
      The real hackers to be worried about are the state operated ones you don't hear about. Check how the US power grid is hacked, for instance.

  • @snoopii11
    @snoopii11 4 года назад +26

    Honestly was waiting for the segway into a VPN sponsorship lol

  • @offthecameraroll
    @offthecameraroll 4 года назад +16

    the only channel I watch immediately when I see the notification

  • @ThAlEdison
    @ThAlEdison 4 года назад +1

    So I never really played PS3 games online, but I remember this because the latest SSX, which I had received as a gift, required PSN access in order to start (I couldn't even pay the single-player campaign while this happened). It was one of the first games to do this.

  • @facundofortes7912
    @facundofortes7912 4 года назад +1

    I'm really liking this modern modern vintage gamer topics lately

  • @dodopoopinpoop
    @dodopoopinpoop 3 года назад +21

    I thought Sony would've never recovered from this. It's honestly amazing how they managed to bounce back.

    • @GGigabiteM
      @GGigabiteM 2 года назад +1

      ​@Diogo Had the RRoD been at any other point in time, and been an exclusive problem only to Microsoft, it may have well sank the Xbox. But the Xbox 360 was released right in the middle of the ROHS solder debacle and capacitor plague, it affected virtually every industry across the world and bankrupted hundreds of companies. It's a big reason why so many PC motherboard companies from the 90s crashed and burned in the mid 2000s, and why we only have a handful today compared to the dozens 20+ years ago.
      Even Sony had to contend with the RLoD/YLoD on the PS3 for the exact same ROHS solder issue and lost a ton of money. Between MS and Sony, they lost billions of dollars on warranty repair of failed consoles.

  • @AltimaNEO
    @AltimaNEO 4 года назад +3

    Man, I really forgot about this already. At the time, I wasnt as invested in PS3 as I was with my 360, but I did have a PSN account but no credit card linked. So crazy it even happened in the first place.

  • @wd6358
    @wd6358 4 года назад +4

    I remember checking multiple times every day to see if it was back up

  • @gizmo6518
    @gizmo6518 4 года назад +1

    I only had a psp during this period as a kid. I was just upset I couldn't download anymore demos for what felt like forever. I had no idea this was going on.

  • @Celcius1
    @Celcius1 4 года назад +43

    I was playing Killzone 3 at the time, and my game just dropped out, was upset about it, but I managed with playing some Ratchet and Clank
    Have not powered on my PS3 since 2015 think I will tho, I miss playing Ratchet and Clank

    • @BaconTopHat45
      @BaconTopHat45 4 года назад +2

      @D. Your PS3 firmware hasn't really mattered in a while. All firmware have been hackable for years now.

    • @Loukoumakias
      @Loukoumakias 4 года назад +2

      @@BaconTopHat45, yeah exactly. Even the one that was released on March 31st is hackable. Why did they release an update in 2020? No idea.

    • @Khaelopr
      @Khaelopr 4 года назад

      I was playing black ops 1 multiplayer on summit then got kicked out

  • @VarHyid
    @VarHyid 4 года назад +15

    I've been there. I played a lot on my PS3 at that time and when it went offline, I started playing a fully offline single-player game I picked up earlier, but never got to it yet. It was called "Resonance of fate". It was awesome and I'm planning to replay it on my PC in the future, now that it's also available on Steam.

  • @Vanessaira-Retro
    @Vanessaira-Retro 4 года назад +25

    I remembered getting a ton of PSN Plus for free after this.

  • @TheSSJSnoop
    @TheSSJSnoop 4 года назад +1

    I'll never forget it. I had started working with my Dad in January that year 2011, doing construction work on our properties. He loved working 12hr days, 9am-9pm like a madman so weekdays I'd be too tired to do anything else besides eat and play videogames.
    I had a backwards compatible PS3 at the time. In 2010 I played and beat many games but nothing more than MW2. I played that to such a ridiculous extent I made a New Yr's resolution to take a break and play my small backlog.
    From Jan-April 2011 I did not touch MW2 once. I told myself it'll be there when you need it, it's not going anywhere. Forget about online and focus on single player.
    I beat 4 games during those 4 months: Mass Effect 2, Manhunt 2, Dead Space 2, and FFX. All these games are excellent and top tier(maybe not Manhunt) but towards the end in the back of my head I was itching and excited as all hell to play MW2 again.
    4/20 arrived and I had planned, and told me friends so that special day, to finally return to the game tomorrow 4/21 and start playing with them again. I was so hyped to play I had popped in MW2 for a couple minutes earlier that day before they came over.
    So they left slightly before midnight and I decided to play a match or two. I had already been signed into PSN the whole day while me and my friends played local multiplayer games. So there I go to start the game from the XMB, literally 12:01am, and it happened:
    PSN WENT DOWN. FOR THE NEXT 23 DAYS.
    This can easily sound like a 1st world problem that i don't expect people to understand but I felt betrayed by Sony.
    That they could allow this to happen on their expensive high-tech machine, that they could tout free online as being so great, and that as a cruel joke it happens when I absolutely needed it. Sony pushed the hackers to get revenge for removing Linux support.
    I did not want to play anything offline, I was doing that for 15 weeks straight, and I really didn't have anything else since i beat those 4 games. I wanted to do nothing else videogame-wise than play MW2 online and they wouldn't let me.
    Every weeknight coming home dead tired for over 2 weeks with nothing to play was "torture". Of course I watched more movies & tv and listened to more music instead but i still simply want to play online.
    I had heard so much about Xbox 360 for yrs with it being cheaper, better multi-plats, and the fabled safer & more secure paid online.
    This was the last straw. After PSN came back online in May I decided I would sell my PS3 and switch to Xbox. And that's what I did 2 months later.
    The 2011 PSN hack made me switch to Xbox. That's how bad it was.
    I'm not going to say I never looked back because I did eventually get a PS3 again, the GTAV Super Slim in Nov 2013 and a PS4 a yr later Aug 2014 but that event is forever burned into my brain.
    Great Video @ Modern Vintage Gamer!

  • @dreammjpr
    @dreammjpr 4 года назад +1

    I remember it like it was yesterday. I was already developing for Nintendo DS and Wii and we were slated to start our exploration of the PS3 and Xbox 360 SDK's (that was delayed a year though). In the meanwhile I tried the PS3 public key hack (you needed an Android phone so I managed to install android on a first generation iphone and pulled it off). My interest was in developing for the PS3, I could care less about pirating software. At a conference I told aspiring indie developers to go ahead and jailbreak their PS3's to learn as much so that we could potentially hire them in the future.
    Safe to say, Sony responded by patching their system and blocking from the PSN network whoever didn't. I relented and went ahead to update mine. Gone were the days of the Other OS and now the ability to develop for the PS3 independently of Sony.
    On the other hand I was already getting a dev account and reading the myriad documentation (and actually I still have that somewhere) so I never followed up on the PSN debacle (online gaming was never that important to me, only for downloading games)...so I never noticed an outage.
    These days I still don't care about online gaming (on ocassion I try to log on to some Minecraft server), but I knew that online gaming was a battlefield of security. I know how difficult it is to cipher communications and what not, so I really don't want to develop games with security in mind.
    A toy is meant to be taken apart and rebuilt (and learning to repair it in case we break something), same goes for videogames...

  • @wickedgrinaz
    @wickedgrinaz 4 года назад +13

    I sold my PS3 during the outage, and it was the last Sony system I owned. My debit card was compromised and it was being used in person in Chicago, while I live in Arizona.

    • @Goliath1337
      @Goliath1337 4 года назад +9

      LMAO, same here, I was fed up. Went to pc and didn't regret it.

    • @Sharpless2
      @Sharpless2 4 года назад +6

      @@Goliath1337 very wise choice.

  • @yeti4269
    @yeti4269 4 года назад +12

    Honestly this whole situation used to make me mad as a kid, but now hearing that the hackers stopped because they were interfering with the gamers themselves is wholesome af

    • @echangwang1821
      @echangwang1821 4 года назад +1

      @TheDragonSsJ Until they leaked everybody's information.

  • @justingoers
    @justingoers 4 года назад +7

    This all want down at the moment I got my PS3. I was so confused at first. I had a X-Box 360 and just assumed its online functionality was better.

  • @BobBobOnYouTube
    @BobBobOnYouTube 4 года назад +1

    I remember this happening. I had to cancel the card I used for PSN. Back then, I used the same password for everything so I had to change a lot of passwords, too. The PSN being down didn't bother me too much because I had other consoles that I could play online with. It just bothered me that my personal information was taken. When PSN came back, I removed my real name and address from my account and, to this day, I haven't added a new payment card to my account. I use prepaid wallet top up cards if I want to buy anything on PSN.

  • @koivids_
    @koivids_ 4 года назад +2

    This happened during the first summer I had my PS3 back when I was 13. Imagine the heartbreak I went through when I realized there would be no MW2 online for me for a month...

  • @hanselmanryanjames
    @hanselmanryanjames 4 года назад +8

    Awww, MVG is too innocent to say the word "penis". I was really looking forward to it!

  • @lra1095
    @lra1095 4 года назад +69

    "Yeah we are gonna take down Sony!"
    Proceeds to cut off a service for customers, leave the door open for their info to get stolen, and making Sony spend 0.00001% of profits on damage control all while letting people forget it happened a year later.

    • @jordanb3641
      @jordanb3641 4 года назад +27

      The point was to make customers angry at Sony, and it absolutely worked. Ever since then I and I'm sure many others have refused to give Sony credit card info or money.

    • @GameZard
      @GameZard 4 года назад +3

      This greatly damaged Sony.

    • @lra1095
      @lra1095 4 года назад +13

      @@GameZard They are still doing fine and most people forgot it happened, I doubt any higher ups lost their job, but I bet some low level employees got thrown under the bus.

    • @lra1095
      @lra1095 4 года назад

      @@jordanb3641 It's good you are sticking to your morals and not supporting them if you feel you should not.
      But realistically prob under 1% of customers are sticking to that, especialy since the PS4 won over a ton of Xbox players who prob paid no attention to this.
      PS4 is selling really well and that means people are buying a ton of games for it.

    • @Gabo-wg3dv
      @Gabo-wg3dv 4 года назад

      @@jordanb3641 that's stupid

  • @LunaTuna
    @LunaTuna 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for this in-depth short documentary on this! I’ve always wanted to know what happened. ❤️

  • @caffeinepizza
    @caffeinepizza 4 года назад

    MVG is the only thing about Mondays that I look forward to.

  • @MythicSuns
    @MythicSuns 4 года назад +6

    I remember the outage almost like it was yesterday, naturally I was concerned that hackers had my card info (not that they would have found much on the card since idiot me had wasted most of my money on PlayStation Home) but at the same time I found myself laughing at some of the gullible parents who genuinely seemed to think their kid's PS3 couldn't function without a connection to the PSN servers. Meanwhile I was using a shitty capture card to record myself flying around a city on Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction.

  • @unexpecteditem7919
    @unexpecteditem7919 4 года назад +2

    Hi MVG
    I was around and really into the scene at this time.
    I theorise from the IRC logs on efnet back then, that Rebug was actually used to do this, but as you say in combination with the outdated software.
    I understood that connecting to the SCEI dev net allowed the “debug” PS3 units to tunnel the private network ranges of the dev net and that potentially a massively outdated MySQL instance, with the precious booty, was compromised via vulnerable SSH authentication.

    • @tnaplastic2182
      @tnaplastic2182 Год назад

      Rebug was not used for this...
      The vulnerability was on SSH on the Red Hat Enterprise 8 Server. No SQL injection, etc.
      ...and the entire SONY-Network got compromised... Not only PSN...

  • @bluekewne
    @bluekewne 4 года назад +2

    I also remember it happened shortly after the PSP GO was released, which has no UMD drive & relied 100% on the PSN store - & seeing as custom firmware for the GO was in it's early stages, it meant it was a brick during that outage

  • @defb4dishonor211
    @defb4dishonor211 4 года назад +31

    I remember running home from middle school everyday hoping that it’d finally come back online. I got really interested in anonymous and I even started to get into computing and built my first pc because of them

    • @luigi95-
      @luigi95- 3 года назад +1

      Me too everyday i would come home from school and check if the servers were backup

  • @yurriaanvanduyn
    @yurriaanvanduyn 4 года назад +4

    From time to time, about 3-4 times a year, I still get an e-mail with my exact, back then uniquely for PSN randomly generated, PSN password as subject (by means of threat that "they" know my password and I should pay up), so I guess a full database of info is somewhere still actively exploited.

  • @kp3760
    @kp3760 2 года назад +1

    An exceptionally well-composed video, very thorough, and very informative. Thank you.

  • @murrij
    @murrij 4 года назад

    Dude this is awesome. Very thorough. Even nmap scan and wireshark output. Thanks man.

  • @dancoulson6579
    @dancoulson6579 4 года назад +7

    I respect Ananymous for stopping their attack when they realized it was affecting innocent people. Good on them, it shows morals, and speaks a thousand words on what they're all about.

    • @fpscanada3862
      @fpscanada3862 4 года назад +1

      your talking like they are an organized crew or something.. its just a title that people put on themselves when they want to sound cooler than they actually are..

    • @Dumb_Killjoy
      @Dumb_Killjoy 4 года назад

      @@fpscanada3862 People turned it into that. Anonymous was originally a hacktivist group.

    • @_PatrickO
      @_PatrickO 4 года назад

      @@Dumb_Killjoy It was never a group. It is just a moniker you can use for anything. The media pretends it's a group because they are too stupid to report on it correctly.

  • @R3APER50
    @R3APER50 2 года назад +2

    I was in high school when this happened, I remembered the 1st couple of days thinking something was wrong with my internet, then I found out later about the hack, I was a bit of a bummer as me and a friend at school played online heavily. Once it got fixed I remember the free games they offered. I think one of then was infamous

  • @bxtz9800
    @bxtz9800 4 года назад +1

    I was a senior in high school when this happened. My friends and I were bummed by how we couldn't play online that month but I was also worried about my account getting stolen. As soon as they gave us the option to reset our password I was relieved.

  • @3hero_
    @3hero_ 4 года назад +3

    Yes, I remember this hack well. Our family had a PS3 at the time, and my dad ended up having to change all of our credit and debit cards.
    But hey, Sony gave us free games. So 7 year old me was happy.

  • @d9zirable
    @d9zirable 4 года назад +29

    6:24
    30 days of free ps plus? damn if only benry took advantage of this

    • @Stefan54
      @Stefan54 4 года назад +8

      Remember when PS+ was not necessary to have to play game online?

    • @PowerUpT
      @PowerUpT 4 года назад +2

      @D_r__n Y Do you even have your passport?

    • @animehatchetman
      @animehatchetman 4 года назад +1

      Pepperidge farms remembers

    • @SeriousPotatoBot
      @SeriousPotatoBot 4 года назад +2

      Sunkist is the most perfect dog in the world.

  • @steventouchton2508
    @steventouchton2508 4 года назад

    Never knew any real details about the hack. Just that it happened, and what was taken. Very interesting. Keep up the great work MVG!!

  • @Dasher_The_Viral
    @Dasher_The_Viral Месяц назад +1

    All I remember is logging in to my PS3 and seeing that I got 2 free games.
    Fell in love with LBP ever since.

  • @jatigre1
    @jatigre1 4 года назад +10

    You'd be surprised when you go to the headquarters of these big corporations and almost all of the servers and associates are running windows XP (they probably upgraded to Windows 8 by now)

    • @trinidad17
      @trinidad17 4 года назад +1

      I still run Win 8, don't taze me bro.

    • @0xbenedikt
      @0xbenedikt 4 года назад

      @@trinidad17 So do I

    • @nashismox3
      @nashismox3 4 года назад

      @@trinidad17 Win 7 is better, faster and no spyware from Microsoft.

    • @Dumb_Killjoy
      @Dumb_Killjoy 4 года назад +1

      @@nashismox3 Actually it has an NSA backdoor, which existed from Windows 95 to Windows 8

    • @yanikkunitsin1466
      @yanikkunitsin1466 4 года назад

      @@Dumb_Killjoy it's an exploit not a backdoor, it existed only since Vista SP2, and it was patched on all of them.

  • @KomradeMikhail
    @KomradeMikhail 4 года назад +5

    Should have mentioned that PSN was still in it's infancy at the time.
    PS2 had online games, but did not have a unified PSN with any personal information to get hacked.

  • @realtundratrash
    @realtundratrash 4 года назад +4

    "Could have been anyone..." ;) mhmmmm. yeah we read you MVG.

  • @acciid
    @acciid 4 года назад

    I work in the business side of IT and have seen the workings of many global organisations. It doesn't surprise me at all that there was out-of-date software and I can guarantee that this is still the case in most places.
    IT departments are petrified of change, and for good reason; outages usually occur when someone changes something and this is also the time when bugs are most likely to appear. The underlying issue is culpability - IT managers don't want their name on it if something goes wrong so they take the "if it ain't broke" approach.
    I have seen (and rectified) some horrific upgrades over my career. Big names, which I'm afraid I can't mention. Which is why upgrades get pushed back or ignored altogether. Cue the hackers.
    A lot of it is crappy architecture or penny pinching though. Having an SSH server downlevel is inexcusable really as it's a simple patch which needs no reboot. Apache shouldn't be difficult either - flip the DNS to an alternative server with the same backend and then do your upgrade once all clients are disconnected.

  • @MoeAji
    @MoeAji 4 года назад +1

    I remember how annoying it was. My PS3 became a paper weight for months. Not even Netflix and other streaming services would work. The experience made me lose faith in gaming consoles, and I never bought another since then. At least you can still play other games on PC if one game servers were down.

  • @fv457
    @fv457 4 года назад +6

    I do remember making fun of my friends who had PS3 at the time cause of this lol I was on 360 at the time. I was shocked seeing this on numerous headlines tho

    • @Hysteria98
      @Hysteria98 4 года назад

      The hypocritical irony being Xbox online had been hacked and downed numerous times before this time, so many Xbox fans who laughed were utterly full of shit.

  • @frenchpet
    @frenchpet 4 года назад +4

    I was interested in OtherOS and thought "eh, why not" so I went to bestbuy and picked up the latest/last phat model. I bought a flat screen TV just for this as well. I had installed Yellow Dog Linux on the machine and was having a fun time programming on the thing. Believe it or not I had a LAMP stack running on the thing to help me make FACEBOOK APPS (remember those? haha). I also had DosBox running FastTracker 2 and I made a song on it (hard panned my fake guitars so I can take one of the RCA audio channels and using an RCA to 1/4 adapter plug it into my Line 6 Guitar amp emulator. Why? Because I thought it would be fun!) Anyway, around this time I was working one of my first programming jobs out of school for a shady start up in a major city I just moved too. The short story is the guys Facebook clone didn't work out so for 1 month I didn't get paid. It really sucked. He closed down around the same time a big telecom giant laid off a few thousand of it's engineers so I was competing for jobs as a newbie against guys who invented internet protocols for the last 30 years.
    So what's the point? WELL, one day while looking for work when I ran out of the library in a hurry I didn't close my laptop correctly. Turns out it overheated in the carrying case and the GPU melted right off of the board (this is what the guy on ebay I sold it to told me anyway). So I was ROYALLY screwed. No money, No computer to find a new job. My goose was cooked as they say. WELL guess what?
    OTHER OS
    I installed open office and some other stuff (I think at this point I had installed some Debian variant if I recall correctly because I distinctly remember using gnome during this period and not enlighten which YDL used). It was my saving grace, I was able to look for new places to live, jobs, send out resumes, and of course, program and improve my skills. Anyway I survived it all and am now working for big company you probably have heard of.
    By the way, here's that song :P PS3 running FastTracker2 in Dosbox hard panned into a Line 6 pocket
    oxygenfad.bandcamp.com/track/fake-guitars-through-real-guitar-amps

    • @alhuno1
      @alhuno1 4 года назад +1

      Wow, that's an insane story.

    • @frenchpet
      @frenchpet 4 года назад

      @@alhuno1 it's true. All of it!

    • @frenchpet
      @frenchpet 4 года назад

      @@alhuno1 I'm surprised people trust this company.

  • @thecanucklehead3034
    @thecanucklehead3034 4 года назад +18

    “Sony bad, Sony sue hackers, anonymous come to rescue”
    *compromises thousands of users personal details just to make a point.

    • @cin2110
      @cin2110 4 года назад +3

      Did you even watch the video all they did was point out Sony’s incompitence some other malicious group probably did it imagine having passwords sit in a text file on a server

  • @alexkodyna
    @alexkodyna 4 года назад

    Infinite thanks! This was an impressive investigation work.
    I've been working on IT for the last decade and it's a tale that gets told to the newbies that that if you don't want a surprise like Sony's you better keep your systems updated.
    And we have to be thankful because it's those things that have pushed the security budget and investment a lot. If it wasn't for the public shame things would still be the same.

  • @cantbehelped
    @cantbehelped 4 года назад

    I got inFamous and Wipeout HD from this and played neither. Great video MVG, reminded me of the days of frantically trying to change all my login info

    • @cantbehelped
      @cantbehelped 4 года назад

      @referral madness yeah I just never installed either one

  • @tuffman187
    @tuffman187 4 года назад +12

    7:02 It's Planetside 2 not planetfall.

  • @TheBeastUponTheLolz
    @TheBeastUponTheLolz 4 года назад +7

    I remember this well. Took me a long time before I trusted Sony with any of my personal information after this.

    • @ezcompane
      @ezcompane 4 года назад +1

      Same for me and today I still don't trust them (or any online merchants) with my credit cards. If possible I much prefer to purchase pre-paid cards to use for PSN services.

    • @chrisrichfield8906
      @chrisrichfield8906 4 года назад

      I actually never bought a ps4 because my ps3 account was hacked and used to buy every ubisoft game and dlc on the store, but Sony wouldnt refund me even though I told them I was hacked because the transaction was over 50$. So I had my bank refund me and then Sony banned my ps3 account

    • @Deutschehordenelite
      @Deutschehordenelite 4 года назад

      @@ezcompane Best Buy gift cards for Microsoft tech support? ;)

  • @Mathwuz
    @Mathwuz 4 года назад

    This has finally pushed me to stop using my own passwords and start generating them in the password manager I had started using a few months beforehand. It also started me turning on multi-factor everywhere I could.

  • @napynap
    @napynap 4 года назад

    Thank you for this, I always wondered what really happened? I remember getting hyped for SOCOM 4 and then being crushed by this outage. The game never recovered, and not long after that Zipper was gone.

  • @pyromcr
    @pyromcr 4 года назад +6

    I loved when this happened. It needs to happen more often.

  • @MVrockersPS3
    @MVrockersPS3 4 года назад +1

    I remember this happened during spring break so no online COD :( I was so mad. They kept saying "it will be up in like a day"

  • @BromellFilmCorp
    @BromellFilmCorp 4 года назад

    Inconvienced but appreciated shutting down the severs to address the issues and actually tell customers of a breach. Normally companies don't disclose any breach

  • @marquiis
    @marquiis 4 года назад +2

    MVG: *talks about Anonymous in a video
    Anonymous: *revives

  • @frostbite1991
    @frostbite1991 4 года назад +2

    ughh these were dark times. I was 19, living on my own, broke and PSN was the only thing I could do to pass the time in the winter. I miss free PSN. But the downtime made life boring as hell lol.

  • @chrisg828
    @chrisg828 4 года назад

    Awesome video MVG, very interesting and very informative👍

  • @dearhorse085
    @dearhorse085 2 года назад

    you know it's gonna be a juicy exploit when MVG uploads it

  • @XDLugia
    @XDLugia 4 года назад +1

    I remember this time really well, and it was really interesting. As a 360 player, it didn't bug me much, but there was so much frustration everywhere.

    • @Stuart267
      @Stuart267 4 года назад

      This is what led me to 360 exclusively as I owned both back then but was a Sony fanboy until I saw how little they cared about their customers privacy & lost £1700 in the process. I get what you mean about frustration 1 kid crippled his mother all because he couldn't get online

  • @positive.feedback.loop1
    @positive.feedback.loop1 4 года назад

    Almost no MVG Video without a Date in the First Sentence. I love it. ♥

  • @ReptilianRichardRamirez
    @ReptilianRichardRamirez 4 года назад

    I remember this hack.. I still have the package of free games on my account we got to select after the servers came back. Excellent video brother