How Genshin Impact's Ascension System Could Ruin Its Future

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  • Опубликовано: 20 июн 2022
  • Hoyoverse has had the same system to ascend characters since they launched Genshin Impact. While fine at first, I believe this will cause players issues down the line, especially newer players. What annoys me about this is, is that I think Hoyoverse can EASILY fix this issue and already have the solution in the palm of their hand...they just don't seem to know it! Let me know if you think my solution makes sense, or if my solution has some glaring issues as well! I'd love to have a discussion!
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  • @toucane2124
    @toucane2124 Год назад +727

    honestly, for the local specialties, I would love to see like a market once a week in the 3 main cities. on different days of course, but I think that would also be the most realistic way for this

    • @phoenyck
      @phoenyck  Год назад +93

      Definitely! And since there's seven nations they could maybe have all of them on Sunday as Genshin already has a tendency to allow everything on Sunday

    • @faanvugeincynicalassassin
      @faanvugeincynicalassassin Год назад +5

      @Phoenyck Makes sense. Also could do something like for one day a week you have specialities for one nation only?

    • @notacasual5593
      @notacasual5593 Год назад

      @@Ssuwudhjs OKAY OKAY relax

    • @crownedking_cj8890
      @crownedking_cj8890 Год назад +3

      I think artifact farming needs to be changed the most, change the giblets to elemental dmg bonus instead of a specific elements, and secondly let us choose what set from the domain we wanna farm for, imagine if we had that terrible rng for talent books and weapon materials

    • @faanvugeincynicalassassin
      @faanvugeincynicalassassin Год назад +1

      @@crownedking_cj8890 Trust me, if it was that way for weapons, unless maybe for very powerful ones that you'd be good for having any of them, but still guaranteed one, I wouldn't play.

  • @EUCLlD
    @EUCLlD Год назад +482

    If they remove the cooldown in changing world level. New players can ask higher AR players to lower their world level so they could join and help them get ascension materials there. This would encourage people to use co-op more often as well.

    • @phoenyck
      @phoenyck  Год назад +82

      Anything to incentivise co-op is a plus in my book! It's so underutilised 😭

    • @BadgerOff32
      @BadgerOff32 Год назад +32

      Nah that wouldn't work unfortunately. Even with removing the cooldown, you can only drop your World Level by one. I'm World Level 8. If a new player wanted to join my world they'd have to be at least World Level 7. If I *could* drop my World Level all the way down to 1 or 2, my characters would be so ludicrously overpowered it would probably break the game in many unforeseen ways lol

    • @mwuahugz1115
      @mwuahugz1115 Год назад +22

      @@BadgerOff32 but that's the players choice noh? Play at lower world levels, get fewer drops. For me, I'd like to test some new characters to play before levelling them up without them dying in my current world

    • @juseongpark4272
      @juseongpark4272 Год назад +5

      or instead, just rather make it so that you can just co op with higher ar people by itself. when lower wl people join your co op world, the world level will automatically decrease to match theirs while still keeping the 24 hour cd for single player
      this would discourage people cheesing bosses in single player and rather make both parties want to play multiplayer.
      not sure how this would work if you already got one person in then a second person joined with even lower wl

    • @Powtato2724
      @Powtato2724 Год назад +2

      The problem with this is new players will get spoiled if they haven't unlocked it yet. say for example they are still in mondstadt and they need ascension all the way from snezhnaya. The feeling of discovering the nation for the first time from the archon quest will be gone. That's why I think a shop with nation's specialties will be more ideal (e.g. traveling salesman)

  • @meikyowo
    @meikyowo Год назад +202

    this is especially bad when it comes to regions like inazuma where you literally can't even enter without having to glitch there. at least in sumeru you can walk over there and farm even at ar 10.

    • @gl1tchspectre_
      @gl1tchspectre_ Год назад +14

      Speaking as someone who carried a useless Thoma around for about a month, I can attest. Not only did I have to wait for Inazuma, I also had to unlock Tsurumi Island just for his mats. At least he's the only one to use them iirc.
      I'm working on my new Miko now and I think anyone who pulls for her before Inazuma is even worse, because they also have to do Enkanomiya. Same with anyone else who uses those mats. The only upside here is that at least 5 stars can be relatively strong even when unbuilt, at least for a while. 4 stars are the real tragedy I think, made worse because they're easier to get for new players.

    • @repingtonthethird
      @repingtonthethird Год назад +24

      The fact that Yae Miko’s ascension materials require a boss you encounter late into fucking *Enkanomiya,* which isn’t even accessible until you finish a good portion of Inazuma’s questline on top of a roundabout side quest the game makes zero effort to direct you towards is absolutely criminal. I get a character needed Enkanomiya materials to level at some point and the boss down there needed some use; however, there’s also the issue of a new player pulling for one of the most attractive and endearing characters in the game only to realize they need to get to the latest point of the entire game to even make her playable.

    • @delighyt
      @delighyt Год назад +7

      I unfortunately got a Yae Miko early. I didn't even have Inazuma unlocked. I decided to finish the whole Inazuma archon quest in about a day, got to Enkanomiya, did the story, and swept the Coral Defenders just for her ascension material. I was AR 35 at the time, and Yae Miko was my strongest character. It would take forever to do things if I didn't have her on my teams because she was my only invested character (in terms of weapon and artifacts)

    • @soumavasanyal7007
      @soumavasanyal7007 Год назад +2

      @@gl1tchspectre_ same shit, but with itto, but now, itto is broken

    • @mieeuhh
      @mieeuhh Год назад

      @@repingtonthethird i’m a newer player and i spent hoursss getting through that story line so i could unlock her ascension materials. i actually didn’t even know there was a separate quest that i needed to find myself so i wasted a bit of time on the main quests. that was just plain bad game design tbh

  • @aethereum2439
    @aethereum2439 Год назад +59

    There is an NPC in Liyue Harbor named Ivanovich who is from Snezhnaya and sells Snezhnayan goods. However, he says he is currently out of stock. Most likely down the line, when Snezhnaya gets released, he’ll start selling Snezhnayan specialities. I hope that more NPCs similar to him get released, as well.

  • @sohailape
    @sohailape Год назад +78

    Best thing they can do is add a shop that allows you to buy future region mats but once u unlock the new region they can disable the shop

  • @EponineReads
    @EponineReads Год назад +267

    Sumeru is not locked like Inazuma is. You can kill that electro vine and open a domain. You can get dendro traveler and those green pods allow your archer to project dendro arrows. The Aranara quest is a little shaky cause you tell the kids stories that haven’t happened yet. I haven’t got too far into Sumeru. I did get to Port Orthmos. One statue of the seven left.
    By the way; no glitches were used. I haven’t passed the rite of passing yet.

    • @HappyXID
      @HappyXID Год назад +66

      Every other nation shouldn't be locked up like inazuma, so in theory this will only be a problem for new characters trying to use inazuman characters. Every other character from the other 6 nations should be fine

    • @yumirow7487
      @yumirow7487 Год назад +2

      @@HappyXID except for the 5h ig running session

    • @HappyXID
      @HappyXID Год назад

      @@yumirow7487 and Sayu dodging your wishes

    • @yumirow7487
      @yumirow7487 Год назад

      @@HappyXID lol, the story my life

    • @sand6419
      @sand6419 Год назад +8

      @@yumirow7487 sayu, yelan, ayaka, kazoo is the best for mobility. but theres one problem. i dont have 3 of these :(

  • @krispypcl
    @krispypcl Год назад +197

    Hopefully they fix it by having an alternative to the dust of azoth but for boss ascension mats, and travelling merchants for the local specialties.

    • @phoenyck
      @phoenyck  Год назад +19

      Yeah that'd also be a good way to make the boss materials accessible, my only qualm with it over the portal idea is that it would make doing the bosses so much more repetitive as you'd be limited to the ones in the beginning areas. But it'd also mean you could just fight bosses that are quick to kill like regisvines and get mats more quickly while avoiding a boss you may dislike so that'd actually be a plus, good idea!

    • @krispypcl
      @krispypcl Год назад +8

      @@phoenyck Based on the 3.0 version update stream, they're already doing the same thing with artifacts with the expansion of the artifact strongboxes which render doing some domains useless compared to just farming domains that aren't currently convertible. I would imagine them doing the same for boss ascension mats with a bit of tweaking on how much you can convert, or maybe using stardust to acquire them, but that's only pure speculation.

    • @muhammadfaiq9266
      @muhammadfaiq9266 Год назад

      that is so perfect holy shit

    • @chaon93
      @chaon93 Год назад

      @@phoenyck Solution: make the conversion material for boss mats more time gated (like 6 to 14 per month) and give them expiration. To a new player a this is all they need until they actually get to the region, and to a vet you are fully incentivized to kill the actual boss.
      Alternate solution: add a resin cost to the boss mat conversion recipe. Vets wont touch it with a 10 foot pole. but new players with no other option will gladly make the trade.

  • @shio5234
    @shio5234 Год назад +84

    I started playing like one two months ago, I got a lot of new really cool characters but I can’t do anything with them, I find myself rushing the story so I can catch up but that’s what I love about the game. The characters. I just want to play as yoimiya and heizo but it’s not really as fun to play others and if I want to play the characters I really like then I can’t level them up. So it’s a loop of kind of hell. I’m trying to just calm and go slow but I don’t want to go play as all starter characters just so i can fight the bosses to one day play the one I like.

    • @phoenyck
      @phoenyck  Год назад +13

      That's such a shame to hear! It just seems like such a weird oversight on Hoyoverse's part, like with most other decisions that put the player at a disadvantage there is like a clear benefit Hoyoverse get (mainly monetary), but locking people out of playing a character just seems bizarre.

    • @deftonesFTW
      @deftonesFTW Год назад +3

      Yeah I started to play 3 months ago and I couldn't resist. I spent all my fragile resin :((((

    • @shio5234
      @shio5234 Год назад

      @@deftonesFTW ah me too, as soon as i figured it out lately it has gone like the wind 😥

  • @RaidenKaiser
    @RaidenKaiser Год назад +53

    Personally I find the new player experience to be overwhelming but that's better than feeling hollow from only being allowed to drop 8 artifacts a day as the end game lol. I wouldn't mind resin if it was a progression that wasn't tied to rng I wouldn't mind taking months to make shit I'd rather take 3 months gathering resources to craft gear than spend a random amount of time with disappointment trying to get a piece I actually want.

  • @joaopedrobmenezes2977
    @joaopedrobmenezes2977 Год назад +32

    This actually happend to me. My first five star was raiden, and i loved her gameplay. However, since i was just finishing monstad, i couldnt level her up. To solve this i had to use co-op and enter others people worlds that had inazuma unlocked and beg them to let me farm the necessary materials. Cant say it was an enjoyable experience

    • @phoenyck
      @phoenyck  Год назад +10

      That does suck to hear and in a sad way seems like the only productive use of co-op haha

    • @navalhabr
      @navalhabr Год назад +2

      You can unlock the ENTIRE MAP, after the Archon quest (A new star approaches).
      New players only need to Beat Oziel and complete the Beidou quest to reach Inazuma.
      Everything else is locked behind World quests that you can google to know how to unlock.
      I'm my secondary account, i didn't meet Ayaka yet... but i have ALL Inazuma (except Enkanomiya) and Sumeru + Desert with all bosses unlocked (except the Weekly bosses).
      I did this to get the Coop Archievements in my main account.

    • @nikk-named
      @nikk-named Год назад +2

      My first 5star character was Itto. My second Ayato.
      I had Inazuma locked for a long time, ar45 plus a bit more, probably.
      It's... Annoying. To say the least.
      I eventually got around to finishing the liyue quest. But then I had to also upgrade the characters fully until I could use them.
      I remember joining a lower ar player once and being so happy I could actually use Itto in their world. We even fought the boss for him.
      It's definitely annoying. I'm glad that Sumeru isn't locked like Inazuma is.

  • @jajathenewking6131
    @jajathenewking6131 Год назад +39

    Or they can just make a new npc that is close to where you started and sells everything, it could be cheap expensive, I'll let Hoyoverse decide that.
    Oh but the good thing is 3.0 doesn't lock players AR 10 and above from sumuru unlike Inazuma, they just lock story and world quest for lower players below 20.

    • @phoenyck
      @phoenyck  Год назад +9

      Yeah it's definitely great Sumeru isn't locked like Inazuma. I can maybe see them doing it with places like Snezhnaya or Khaenri'ah, but that's a long way off and now that there's a precedent with Sumeru that should mean most other regions will work the same.

  • @wolflover306
    @wolflover306 Год назад +78

    RIp for the early gamers who have pulled for Collei, Tighnari and the other chick that can't use them at all until they have finished the Chasm main quest to go to Sumeru 💔

    • @joyfull4499
      @joyfull4499 Год назад +31

      The Chasm quest isnt even that long. Im just happy for them that they dont have to do the whole Archon quest like Inazuma cuase theyre being gatekept by the game. Hopefully you dont have to do Inamzuma,..,...,... quest to enter Shneznaya.

    • @sakuyayamada8858
      @sakuyayamada8858 Год назад +47

      They don't have to do the Chasm quest to enter Sumeru, I have another account that hasn't finished Liyue's story but I was still able to enter Sumeru after it came out. The only thing that's bared from new players is the boss material they need for talents since Tighnari and Collei take the Radien Shogun.

    • @Rapiers-and-flowers
      @Rapiers-and-flowers Год назад +5

      Not really. Sumeru is right beside Liyue so they can easily get the materials for Tighnari and Collei. The only problem would be with their talents since both of them needs drops from Raiden while Dori needs things from Azdaha.

    • @sakuyayamada8858
      @sakuyayamada8858 Год назад

      @@Rapiers-and-flowers That's what I said XD

    • @AttackOnToast
      @AttackOnToast Год назад +4

      @@Rapiers-and-flowers lmao I got tighnari when I started 1 month ago which resulted to me exploring the entire Genshin map to find that half mold half kfc lookin boss. At ar
      15. With level 20 characters. Against level 40 enemies. I had to basically just get carried in coop

  • @RainyFun
    @RainyFun Год назад +21

    Imagine being new and pulling a snezniyan character

    • @phoenyck
      @phoenyck  Год назад +8

      Childe havers be like 👁👄👁

  • @atriyakoller136
    @atriyakoller136 Год назад +6

    As of 3.3 being 4 days ahead, the story lock seems to mainly be applicable to Inazuma and Scaramouche being locked behind Sumeru storyline. World bosses in Sumeru are totally available even to new players, and Inazuma only opening through the story makes sense in the lore.

  • @gl1tchspectre_
    @gl1tchspectre_ Год назад +5

    It makes me feel like a grizzled war vet or smth reading all the new players talking about pulling Thoma and not being able to ascend him. I've been maining him since I pulled him in 2.5, back when I was new too. It's like painful nostalgia lol

  • @tunerani2101
    @tunerani2101 Год назад +6

    Totally agree! I started about a year ago now. It sucked that I couldn't build Yunjin, while she was one of my best supports back then. You know... It totally makes sense that you don't get the materials for a character from the region that they are from??

  • @user-op1pz8tl4v
    @user-op1pz8tl4v Год назад +5

    I was worried about this issue as well, but I realized you can't enter Inazuma because of the vision hunt decree. Raiden shogun locks the player out, but this isnt the same as sumeru. In my alt account i went straight to Sumeru at AR 16. So, As long as there isn't a quest related issue that prevents you from entering like inazuma, I'm pretty sure you can explore almost the entire map without needing to do all quests first. On top of that, Genshin does provide you with pretty good starter characters like Kaeya and Xiangling. So, really there isn't much to complain about here, but we'll have to wait for hoyoverse's updates when fontaine comes out. Tbh i think the wishing system should be fixed more than this issue.

  • @itsZoe.
    @itsZoe. Год назад +2

    I think I like the idea of selling local specialties but my suggestion will be that instead of a shop, there will be a travelling merchant that will visit to mondstant and like for the domains, the merchant's goods will change daily

  • @Tanuki-Sama
    @Tanuki-Sama Год назад +9

    Travelling merchants would also add so much life into the game. They could even give you small tokens and gifts from far away places (like cooked dishes and such) or tell you stories from future quests from the region. They could even implement them into the "story" by having travelling merchants relate events happening in the archon quest or even sneak in future content that hasn't been released yet.

  • @Kam1_9
    @Kam1_9 Год назад +1

    luckily we got this in sumeru, there's a vendor in port ormos that sells local specalties from a variety of regions, including inazuma

  • @The_Harsh_Truth
    @The_Harsh_Truth Год назад +3

    When the world will needed him the most, he came back : Liben the travelling marchent

  • @aicurrentlyonline
    @aicurrentlyonline Год назад +4

    They solved the problem in a minor way with local specialties with Sumeru which isn't locked like inazuma

  • @Kirii_ii
    @Kirii_ii Год назад +1

    Imagine a new player gets diansleif on their first ten pull and can’t use him until 10 years of diaugle later

  • @rhuooh
    @rhuooh Год назад +1

    thing is, only inazuma, enkanomiya, and chasm are locked like this
    but still there are a lot of ascension materials, the flowers being locked only in inazuma, and the boss materials being locked in all of them
    its pretty annoying, imagine if u get any inazuma character while still being on the mondstadt/liyue archon thingy
    its even more annoying to get yae while being lower ar, cause then you have to not only get to inazuma, but also get to enkanomiya, do the main uest there, and unlock the boss

  • @muhstello
    @muhstello Год назад +2

    The thing you aren't taking into consideration is that they give you the mats to get to lvl 40 for free even if you don't have access to the region and a level 40 character can easily make it to ar 30 with no problem which is when you unlock the region quests. Thats why the trials exist. As someone who's first character was ayaka i can say will full certainty that this isn't an issue.

  • @Hatsun3_M1ku
    @Hatsun3_M1ku Год назад +1

    The new regions have been quite annoying for me, i just finished inazuma's archon quest and earlier today, i pulled wanderer, which is great, but some of my sumeru exploration which i need to use him is locked for me because i have to do the chasm quests before i start on sumeru

  • @nagyluca1379
    @nagyluca1379 Год назад +1

    My friend started playing when Raiden got her rerun, he got lucky and got her on his first few pulls, needless to say, he couldn’t really use her, and poor guy farmed electro hypostasis for her…

  • @adrianlewis2536
    @adrianlewis2536 Год назад +1

    I got yae miko before i reached inazuma and i couldnt even upgrade anything on her until a buddy of mine lowered his world and i got to get the water fruit and ascend her ONLY ONCE.

  • @zukitung2510
    @zukitung2510 Год назад +4

    One way Hoyov trying to tell you "go, make friends and visit their worlds" - just make sure your circle of friends have what you need. 🤔😗

  • @luciferfallen1005
    @luciferfallen1005 Год назад +1

    Only Inazuma will be ar locked due to lightning and being an island nation, I don't think other nations will be locked to farm for materials

  • @hender4160
    @hender4160 Год назад

    What i think of potencial fixes is that:
    1) boss assention materials reqiers resin to be collected. Keeping that in mind we can add an npc that will sell "damaged" versions of that materials so we can later use alchemy table to fix them, with use of some resin, of course(40 for piece seems like the fairest price to me)
    Once region where these materials is unlocked(or AR of this region started) npc will no longer be selling those materials.
    2) local specialties can bought the same way, but without any resin spending and alcemy.
    3) for mob materials even if there is already a somewhat raw solution(which is paimon store), i think some kinf of "colloseum" can be added(as a new gamemode for the abyss for example).
    There is how i see it will work:
    First, you will need an entrance fee, it could be resin or some special tokens that could be used limited times in a week. Then, you can choose which enemy you wand to fight. After choise is done, will start a fight based on both your choise and WL. After the fight, you will be rewarded with mob materials accordinly to factors above. I think this "colloseum" will even fit as permanent feature.

    • @hender4160
      @hender4160 Год назад

      There is also dendro cristals, but can be bought the same way as the local specialties.
      Also sorry for bad grammar.

  • @yaroslavyevsieiev5890
    @yaroslavyevsieiev5890 Год назад +1

    This problem already here. I pulled C3 Toma when was in Monshtad. WHERE I SUPPOSE TO GET THIS MUSHROOMS?????

  • @Brenilla
    @Brenilla Год назад +1

    Another solution for local specialties could be adding a traveling merchant of sorts, every so often they change what reigion your in (based on unlocked commission areas).but otherwise you put in an order for a certain specialty, in exchange they ask you for a certain specialty(s) from the current reigion. Then insert time it takes (1 to some amount Irl Days?) and he brings the items. As a bonus they could add alternate items, or change the amount certain specialties are worth. (IE a scarab would be worth more than one of those pomegranate things)
    That’s my idea, but ye ye. I enjoy your boss idea, could be cool.

  • @yuarentlucky
    @yuarentlucky Год назад +5

    Not only that but the rewards are too little. I fought a pyro regsivine FIVE TIMES and ended up with only ten of those flower things

    • @deftonesFTW
      @deftonesFTW Год назад +1

      And you can only play it 4 times per day lol

    • @wooshbait6023
      @wooshbait6023 Год назад +1

      @@deftonesFTW where did u get that? Bosses respawn every 5 minutes

    • @yuarentlucky
      @yuarentlucky Год назад

      @@wooshbait6023From experience, yeah

    • @yeepicowo3461
      @yeepicowo3461 Год назад +1

      @@wooshbait6023 resin cap

    • @gl1tchspectre_
      @gl1tchspectre_ Год назад

      And that would be more bearable if we actually had more than a crumb of resin every day... or even if they scaled better. But nah, you only get 3 drops if you make daily sacrifices to RNGesus, and even then only sometimes, for basically all WLs except the first ones. Thanks hyv, very cool

  • @DemiseDarling
    @DemiseDarling Год назад

    it would be cool to have a wandering merchant in like mondstat who resets each week and sells regional specialties- like enough to help but not enough to just do things for you like 10 every week and each week it cyles through randomly

  • @wahzawahzo2949
    @wahzawahzo2949 Год назад +1

    I just realised this today after unlocking faruzan. I have not wished yet, and I am at the chasm I thought hey this character is cool lets do a single 10 pull for her and if I dont get her fine I wont wish more. I got her and tried to level her a little bit. It did not go well xd

  • @notme8652
    @notme8652 Год назад +1

    They should have something like a monster hunter Shop guy that has boss material you can buy 2 a week

  • @fifiplayz6723
    @fifiplayz6723 Год назад

    This actually happened to me, when I started I got Sara, Gorou, Kuki Shinobu AND Itto and I was AR 20-25 at the time and didn't have Inazuma, even now at AR 53 they still are under leveled

  • @Lordoftheapes79
    @Lordoftheapes79 Год назад +3

    It's not quite as bad as it seems in some places. I just came back after over a year away and got some Sumeru characters. Turns out, Sumeru becomes available to go to after you finish the first act in Inazuma and a lot of Sumeru remained locked behind story. I have a feeling future content will open at the same time. So, once you get past that, the whole world will be open to you.

  • @Mari-sq6cx
    @Mari-sq6cx Год назад +1

    Us starter mains are really lucky. I can't imaginr not being able to play or even meet the character I love for days or weeks or months on end

  • @blebleble9624
    @blebleble9624 Год назад

    I got Yelan on release and had to complete the chasm quests, they were pain, but hey, I can now upgrade my own character. My friends pulled itto and shes just in lyue and cant use him. Also, when I got itto I had to farm the wolf, which is a pain without geo, but I, ya know, had only a lvl 20 itto.

  • @deancamba2820
    @deancamba2820 Год назад

    please help. i have a problem i just started playing genshin impact a week ago and im just AR20 now when i got Tighnari from a wish. I can't ascend him past level 20, seeing this vids enemies are level 80+ for his materials. What should I do?

    • @phoenyck
      @phoenyck  Год назад

      That won't be a problem! Since you're a new player your "world level" will be lower than mine, it's a way that (tries to) scale enemies to your characters. So if you go to Sumeru the enemies/bosses there will be a lower level than they are in this video so you shouldn't have a problem farming :)

  • @salr7727
    @salr7727 Год назад +3

    Thankfully this problem has been fixed with the release of sumeru because unlike inazuma sumeru is land locked and is completely able to be walked to from lyue

  • @miniburger9323
    @miniburger9323 Год назад +1

    All char can go to lvl 40 by their free trial stuff, and by playing normally ppl can reach inazuma without having to reach high AR level & doesnt need to ascend their char over lvl 40 (World level is parallel with the time u spent on genshin so u wont struggle facing any enemy, and by the time the enemy is overpowered ur char, u already reach inazuma & could gather ascencion stuff). Btw now ppl can reach sumeru without going througth inazuma first

  • @pucca-san
    @pucca-san Год назад +1

    instead of having boss teleports its better to have dream solvents work on daily bosses and increase solvent drops

  • @Spirit-mg3lt
    @Spirit-mg3lt Год назад +1

    I think you've overlooked the fact that this isn't a game you grind but a game you play at your own pace.

  • @beifang4389
    @beifang4389 Год назад

    It worked perfectly!!! Thank you so much

  • @lian7092
    @lian7092 Год назад

    they sell them at a shop in port Ormos

  • @kikherne739
    @kikherne739 Год назад +1

    This is now pretty much an inzuma problem. Sumeru materials are difficult to get, but certainly possible

  • @deadmia
    @deadmia Год назад

    you can go to sumeru without doing any quests though..? i went to sumeru not long after beginning the liyue archon quest, this was a little over a month ago and i’m a new player. i was hearing so much about sumeru i just spent a little while running over there as i new where it was on the map. of course, if other regions turn out to be like inazuma, this it will be an issue but it seems highly unlikely.
    edit: i just made a spelling mistake lmao

  • @justrad7637
    @justrad7637 Год назад +1

    yes , because geshin isnt all about characters and dmg , its about the story that has rewards ( primogems most importantly) and quests which are important to the story or have charactrs in them

  • @marquoío
    @marquoío Год назад

    Actually it’s only inazuma chasm and enka bc it’s let’s you get to Sumeru when u start the game

  • @KodyKodzter
    @KodyKodzter Год назад

    i remember getting kazuha on the second day i started playing and realizing i couldnt level him anymore unless i unlocked inazuma, then i spent the next month rushing through the story

  • @saf9543
    @saf9543 Год назад

    I started playing in January and pulled Thomas but I couldn’t level him until inasmuch so I just never used him

  • @lottery248
    @lottery248 Год назад +10

    and they still are aiming for higher profits, no wonder there are private servers.

    • @phoenyck
      @phoenyck  Год назад +3

      Gacha is love, gacha is life

  • @aloevera7104
    @aloevera7104 Год назад

    I still think they should add some sort of trading system. It could work like the strongbox, so you have to give more than you get (which would stop high AR players from abusing it) but at least it would give new players SOME way to level their characters.

  • @kawaiipieceofshit8965
    @kawaiipieceofshit8965 2 года назад +19

    That would be a cool idea, wish mihoyoverse would listen

    • @phoenyck
      @phoenyck  2 года назад +2

      Thank you so much! Part of me was thinking the entire time making this "Have I missed something completely obvious?" 🤣

  • @happyavocado7179
    @happyavocado7179 Год назад

    track, but the problem is I don't know how to do tNice tutorials, it only goes to the setuper as the whole track...can you help with tNice tutorials?

  • @pb.....
    @pb..... Год назад +1

    I ran into that Problem recently. I got Thoma while i still hadn't even complete the Mondstadt Archon quest. And now im getting to a point where He just isn't really usable anymore, which is sad, because I really like his moveset

    • @phoenyck
      @phoenyck  Год назад

      That's such a shame! I hope you get another character you really like! Also Thoma is apparently much better than he used to be now the dendro element exists, so maybe you could build a dendro character now so when you can finally ascend Thoma you can have a team ready for him :)

    • @pb.....
      @pb..... Год назад

      @@phoenyck thanks for the advice. I also did get another character I like with Fischl

    • @DamonsMistrisVampire
      @DamonsMistrisVampire Год назад

      @@pb..... I used thoma nd yae with whoever from monstad to luyie, at ar 30 went to inazuma. From there I picked up the serai storm chasers quest then the tsurumi island quest. So I could farm for him. Then went to watasumi island nd found the quest by accident to ekanomia nd did that. Then I think I went down the chasm nd then back to the inazuma archon quest lol

  • @diamondseraph9369
    @diamondseraph9369 Год назад

    On one of my side accounts my first (well, technically second but I don't care about Mona) 5 star was Yoimiya and I also decided to pull for her bow (and actually got it) and before _THAT_ I had pulled Heizou during Kazuha's banner and was using him because Anemo boy supremacy.
    The problem is...on this account I hadn't even finished the last act of the Liyue Archon quest....
    My godbrother (the only person who I co-op with since I'm too antisocial to play with strangers) had access to Inazuma but since I didn't play on this account very much (in fact before Kazuha's re-run (I wanted to ensure I got him on at least 1 account so I was playing on my main and both side accounts) I hadn't even finished the Mondstadt Archon quest) I was a few world levels below him so I couldn't join. And _THEN_ by the time I was a high enough world level to join his world he wasn't allowed to play on his PS4 for two months so I couldn't gather materials from his world...
    Granted I had to unlock Inazuma in order to get the island event anyway but it was still a pain to grind especially since both of my main damage dealers were permanently locked at level 40.

  • @nathanthomas5249
    @nathanthomas5249 Год назад

    Its really only a problem for inazuma since sumeru can be visited as soon as you unlock the map

  • @abz7800
    @abz7800 Год назад +1

    this video did not age well Inazuma is the only land restricted by adventure rank all other lands are predicted to be conected to the main land

  • @Abcia2
    @Abcia2 Год назад

    my yae miko has been at level 40 for 5 months because I hadn't unlocked enkanomia

  • @amos8977
    @amos8977 Год назад +1

    inazuma is the only AR locked area

  • @ashton114
    @ashton114 Год назад

    I actually encounter the problem with not being able to get ascension
    materials and so I spent 2 hours trying to get to inuzuma or trying to find a place to buy the materials and the. Finally I just grinded my at rank to unlock inuzuma and by the time I got it it did not matter anymore because I found out the character wasn’t going to be that useful to me 💀💀

  • @bluerie287
    @bluerie287 Год назад

    I still remember how happy I was once I got to all regions so I can level whoever I want and when I want, as someone with two Inazuma characters in my party...

  • @LanxerVA
    @LanxerVA Год назад

    i hope they just continue like they did with sumeru, i have an AR12 side account and i was able to walk to sumeru for mats (w/o finishing the mondstadt story) but inazuma still needs solved..

  • @johhada9304
    @johhada9304 Год назад +1

    I think it would be pretty cool to just restrict players from getting characters from nations they haven't unlocked yet (with the exception of Tartaglia of course). This solves all the issues and also adds a sense of continuity to playing through the game once it's finished.

  • @talen8152
    @talen8152 Год назад +1

    Could just have a vendor that lets you trade unneeded ascension mats and boss mats for ones that you need. Could call it an exotic materials vendor. Problem solved a lot easier.

  • @yqisq6966
    @yqisq6966 Год назад +2

    Yeah it's a flaw inherited from the gacha genre. Ideally, one should be able to use the said character during leveling and farming, but in this game you spend most time using other characters to farm matz for the new character.

  • @Klatatata
    @Klatatata Год назад

    I think a cool idea would be to have a trade harbor, where you can trade local specialties for others.

  • @chowmiing
    @chowmiing Год назад

    I got gorou on my AR 5 account, I can't even use him since I can't ascend him..

  • @jakubkoondrus9062
    @jakubkoondrus9062 Год назад

    How can I add the navigation bar you are using?

    • @phoenyck
      @phoenyck  Год назад

      I'm not sure what I know what you mean sorry. Do you mean the quest markers? Having a quest selected will have the marker appear on your map and in the overworld, and you can press V (I don't know the button for the other platforms) to refresh the location.

  • @enxi_
    @enxi_ Год назад

    the local specialties are true, one of my alt has Candice, and it hasn't unlocked Sumeru and inazuma most of it's character is already at level 40 while Candice is still stuck at 20

  • @louisem7900
    @louisem7900 Год назад

    My dillema right now. I’m new and has ayaka. I don’t have a choice but to go with the characters that I have (all of them 4 stars). So now I’m playing nonstop to unlock inazuma. Hopefully, I can unlock it at ar30z
    Ps. I’m at ar26 now.

  • @nyoon690
    @nyoon690 Год назад

    I rememebr thoma being in my first 10-pull and finding out I had to get to Inazuma...

  • @m0ee
    @m0ee Год назад

    “purple zit in the sky” is probably the best thing i’ve ever heard

  • @pc49.
    @pc49. Год назад +1

    this could potentially ruin the games future but we can take this as a business strat that this is how they keep players play the game rather than just easily grind through it and its probably why genshin mostly keeps their players intact for simple reasons like that.

  • @fable7372
    @fable7372 Год назад

    I got yoimiya when i was at28 so i grinded as fast as i could to get to Inazuma if i was any lower i woulda lost my sanity doing 100 damage

  • @trash_bin_ishome4150
    @trash_bin_ishome4150 Год назад +1

    Why is no one talking about player exchange system. Just make it possible to exchange all farmable materials and we're good. Imagine selling a good artifact for primos XD

  • @flyingcow5235
    @flyingcow5235 Год назад +1

    imagine a new player getting dainsleif and having to beat the entire game to ascend him

  • @bakunm
    @bakunm Год назад +1

    or even a simpler answer : crafting table conversion 4

  • @matheusgoncalves7282
    @matheusgoncalves7282 Год назад

    resin till today is the real genshin killer. Wishes are already ultra expensive, the resin refill is this much profitable to keep it as it is?

  • @puddingg7861
    @puddingg7861 Год назад

    pretty late to this but i completely agree !! already feeling sorry for new players who get characters from ex patch 7.3 w ascension materials locked behind 5 years worth of content

  • @humantacos9800
    @humantacos9800 Год назад

    It’s funny, my son wants characters from regions he hasn’t progressed to yet, so it’s impossible to level passed like 20.

  • @Leokawai82
    @Leokawai82 Год назад

    200 hrs to play
    Approximate 15 to 20 day
    It take 1.5 month include break time and sleeping time.

  • @azurclerx951
    @azurclerx951 Год назад

    I remember getting Kujou Sarah first and not being able to use her because I haven’t finished Liyue nor Mondstad.

    • @phoenyck
      @phoenyck  Год назад

      Yeah seems to be more common than I actually realised! Hopefully Hoyoverse will one day do something about it

  • @ahmadmohamad4061
    @ahmadmohamad4061 Год назад

    i remember my first week playing genshin and how happy i was when i pulled raiden shogun.

    • @goji-0045
      @goji-0045 Год назад

      And here i am in my 1st week in genshin, grinding my ass off to get raiden

    • @sweetserenity4145
      @sweetserenity4145 Год назад

      @@goji-0045 you can get around 90 pulls just from liyue and mondstadt plus the abyss

  • @kori228
    @kori228 Год назад

    I just wish they stopped slowly scaling the difficulty. The artifact grind is too insane and yet the enemies keep getting stronger even if I keep the WR the same

  • @smug_homura4596
    @smug_homura4596 Год назад

    Since the game can be completed without using the gatcha sistem i don't think that the ascension thing Is a problem

  • @terraguy6282
    @terraguy6282 Год назад

    i mean the stardust exchange exists-

  • @najmaht.a.1314
    @najmaht.a.1314 Год назад

    why can't they get gigachad liben to appear in random cities selling random ascension mats like the man's been traveling 'round the world anyways

  • @KuanLiwat
    @KuanLiwat Год назад

    keyboard instead of the draw tool

  • @undeniablySomeGuy
    @undeniablySomeGuy Год назад

    Imagine patch 9.0 when dainslef drops. A new player thinks that guy is hot and spends 200 dollars to get him. Now, all you have to do to build him is beat stormterror, finish the osial and childe quest, kill raiden, do the raiden side story, beat sumeru to find out how to get to fontaine, finish the fontaine legal debacle, sail to the pyro archon's continent and help them, go to the abyss and fight your twin in abyss war. Then you can farm his material you get from the boss.

  • @Angeruboy
    @Angeruboy Год назад

    Imagine not knowing you can simply go to another player world and farm all the items you need there, I do it all the time even with items on regions I've already unlocked.. players I've met always are friendly and helpful too

  • @NaeemShah01
    @NaeemShah01 Год назад

    Thankyou that was ready helpful.

  • @takik.2220
    @takik.2220 Год назад

    Hey, you do realize the only place in the game that's cockblocked from new players is Inazuma, this is only a problem for Inazuman characters, sure they'll save to go halfway across the map to get it, but we had to do that too. That being said, it is a bit of dilemma and I would like to see regional specialty shops

  • @XiaZ
    @XiaZ Год назад +1

    This is not even an issue. it's like what, 5 hours to get to the required quest?

    • @Toqrainbow
      @Toqrainbow Год назад +2

      It's always been wildly exaggerated. People act like you need lvl 90 triple crowned characters at AR35 when in reality your characters will be like lvl 40 on all fronts

  • @JV-yq4tz
    @JV-yq4tz Год назад

    well, it only took me 150 hrs to get into inazuma

    • @phoenyck
      @phoenyck  Год назад

      Damn you right I'll take down the video 😔

  • @aarohijadhav4830
    @aarohijadhav4830 Год назад

    help, I'm definitely starting to get the hang of it. Just thought I'd share.