Ninja Heaven: Beating Conquest 17 the Easy Way

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  • @Zoran501
    @Zoran501  4 года назад +41

    Bare-minimum stats to do what Mozu does here, given Bronze Bow +2 (10 might), bow rank E, generic Berserker pair-up (+5 Str, +3 Spd), and +1 Str & Spd meal:
    32 Atk - 10 (Bow) - 5 (Berserker) - 2 (Str tonic) - 1 (Laslow) - 1 (meal) = *13 Str*
    29 Spd - 3 (Berserker) - 3 (Inspiring Song) - 2 (Spd tonic) - 1 (Laslow) - 1 (meal) = *19 Spd*
    You need enough defenses to survive 2x Steel Shuriken MN (22 Atk) + 1x Steel Shuriken ninja (20 Atk), with -4 Def after the first hit. Then you face 2x Steel Shuriken ninja + 1x Silver Shuriken MN (25 Atk); you're at -2 Def for the first hit and -4 thereafter.
    One survival threshold is *31 HP* and *15 Def.* You take 27 at most from the first wave and have to heal it back before turn 4 EP, when you take another 30. Shura meets this threshold at base with a Defense tonic. Every point of Defense counts as three points of HP. If you've got enough Str or Spd, you can pick another pair-up partner that grants more Defense. Just don't go past 21 listed Def.

  • @andrewkos5560
    @andrewkos5560 4 года назад +90

    This madlad says he's gonna take a week off and proceeds to make a Ninja Hell guide on Lunatic. What a god.

    • @Zoran501
      @Zoran501  4 года назад +30

      I might know a lot about Three Houses, but I know this game like the back of my hand

  • @TheLegendaryFUSRODAH
    @TheLegendaryFUSRODAH 4 года назад +39

    local farmhand slaughters entire regiment of ninjas; scientists baffled

  • @atlas9162
    @atlas9162 2 года назад +20

    Coming back to this, I can see the prototype idea for the "Train Everyone" Challenge here. Enjoyed the inspiration on this one!

  • @Arc_ride
    @Arc_ride 4 года назад +19

    Don't have much to say but I want to comment because I feel like you need the buzz. You're severely underrated.
    God I love CQ. I don't think I'll ever get tired of playing it.

  • @eyegnats
    @eyegnats 4 года назад +17

    Petition to give Mozu Annette’s “I’m your girl,” voice lines.

  • @Mekkkah
    @Mekkkah 4 года назад +58

    That is...impressive.
    If you're open to feedback: I notice that you increase and decrease the music volume a lot to accomodate your commentary. That can get a little tiresome to listen to: a consistent volume is a lot more comfortable. Could you try finding one volume that's loud enough to enjoy when you're not commentating but not so loud that it drowns you out when you do talk?

    • @Zoran501
      @Zoran501  4 года назад +40

      I've tried out both styles and prefer the ducking myself, but I think the big problem here is that the combat sound effects in Fates are incredibly loud. I didn’t do a lot of testing with the game's audio levels before slapping this together (and it turns out that Fates's audio as a whole is way louder than 3H by default), but I want to dial that stuff down in the future

  • @CTMFSparky13
    @CTMFSparky13 3 года назад +5

    While I'm personally more of a BLITZ type super attack stance heavy player, your overwhelming understanding of this game and its mechanics is truly inspiring. So many people write this game off or play it like awakening, but your sound strategies and understanding of how to actually PLAY this game...it's magnificent. 10/10 for the first video of yours that came across my feed.
    Your challenge seems very tough to uphold so I'll have to eventually watch more of your videos. I've never tried Merchant Mozu...she's always about to become a Sniper on this map and once she does about halfway through, she then becomes the most reliable boss killer I've found so far for this specific nightmare of a boss. But seeing some units like Laslow and Peri here, who cross my mind as initially subpar choices for this SPECIFIC map, actually coming in clutch is pretty awesome!

  • @zerosknight1022
    @zerosknight1022 4 года назад +11

    Wow, this is super comprehensive and surprisingly consistent! I usually approach this map by reaching OHKO thresholds on Xander, Camilla, and Beruka so I can handle all combat on player phase without taking debuffs, but that requires a fair amount of training and investment.

  • @YamiBlake
    @YamiBlake 3 года назад +6

    And here I was, playing Fire Emblem, thinking I'm good at it. Damn. I was proven wrong. Awesome video!

  • @SorenToKeiran-Murasaki
    @SorenToKeiran-Murasaki 4 года назад +6

    Someone finally said it: WR ELISE IS AMAZING!
    Thank you.

  • @wiicrazy2000
    @wiicrazy2000 4 года назад +12

    Man this makes me want to play conquest AGAIN

    • @Zoran501
      @Zoran501  4 года назад +15

      (palpatine voice) do it

  • @dryiyce5347
    @dryiyce5347 2 года назад +2

    Just discovered your videos. It's inspired me to replay this game. The way you play the game looks way more fun and is way more interesting than how I use to play this game. I feel like your method was how the game was intended to be played. I'll continue to try and watch your other videos and learn all the little tricks I wish I knew back then. Again, your approach to the game is inspiring

  • @sachinchhikara4047
    @sachinchhikara4047 4 года назад +9

    Good video! I like how discussed multiple strategies. I hope you make more chapter strategies for conquest. Also, you could use Benny as the choke point unit as after instant promotion he has 25 defense and his personal skill which gives -15 avoid enemies within two spaces which could help your bow unit have an easier time hitting the Ninjas. Overall, keep up the good work.

    • @Zoran501
      @Zoran501  4 года назад +4

      Benny's Fierce Mien skill is -10 enemy Avoid, but yeah, you're right. I use him in a different spot, as you can see in the video. If you use the Bronze Bow, usually you don't need much help with accuracy-Mozu here has 142 effective Hit (factoring in E rank WTA) against the 40-45 Avoid of the Master Ninjas.

  • @YYY66767
    @YYY66767 3 месяца назад

    this strategy is very nice. I didnt follow it completely but using Xander as a human shield for Bow Knight Niles works wonders, and once I push into the center room it's pretty easy to clear out the rest of the map

  • @Roysanberry
    @Roysanberry 4 года назад +9

    It’s nice to see more conquest content. I was never able to finish my conquest play through but I think I made it pretty far. It’s another Fire Emblem game that I have not experimented enough with. Watching your videos always gives me ideas tho thank you for the video great as always

  • @ebinku
    @ebinku 4 года назад +9

    I feel ashamed that I usually clog Saizo with 7 units and take the rest to play the map slowly. Seeing this completed so fast is really enlightening. Never thought on putting Xander on the frontline so the enemies would only attack your 2 range behind him, might try that.

  • @Khan__98-l4d
    @Khan__98-l4d 3 года назад +4

    I am replaying Conquest Lunatic and tried this method with a Sniper Niles married to Mozu and... it didn´t disappoint at all. Kind of a surprise to be completely honest that taking Niles through the Sniper Tree and then go Kinshi Knight would pay off so well

  • @vishuprathikanti9352
    @vishuprathikanti9352 4 года назад +7

    Yes! I love your conquest videos! Please make more. I've only played hard classic and it's a lot nicer bc I don't think any ninjas have poison strike? The real challenge for me was using dragon veins to block saizo from killing himself.
    Edit: restarted conquest and found in hard mode only master ninjas have poison strike.

  • @kabeermore2501
    @kabeermore2501 4 года назад +2

    Man you know this game in and out. Conquest is a intresting gane', wish there were more guide

  • @kuhmuh2357
    @kuhmuh2357 3 года назад +2

    "The best Fire Emblem game"
    Thats quiet a bold statement.
    Albeit a true one.

  • @LeoWell303
    @LeoWell303 3 года назад +3

    A quick question: When you say that you were doing a challenge run where you recruited and trained every character, did that include training the children characters?
    "The best Fire Emblem Game" Ah, I see you are a man of culture.

    • @Zoran501
      @Zoran501  3 года назад +2

      Yes

    • @LeoWell303
      @LeoWell303 3 года назад

      @@Zoran501 Wow. That's very impressive.

  • @fabioangelini99
    @fabioangelini99 4 года назад +6

    Great video as always!
    I have a question about Selena, i find this way to use her very interesting, her fast support with Beruka and Camilla, her having ok-ish combat for maps that go from 10 to 13, her lack of strenght and she requiring a friendship seal instead of a more contested heart seal are very good reason to go this path.
    How about her hit rate tho? For how fates works having E rank in axe does reduce the hit rates a lot, her best weapon to use, Bronze Axe + 2, has a hit rate of 82. Skill stat doesn't help much in this game and Selena doesn't have stellar skills anyway.
    Personally i find dealing with hit rates too much of an hussle and in the end i never try to change classes too much (Jakob and Corrin are exceptions).
    How are you finding her hit rates as a wyvern rider?

    • @Zoran501
      @Zoran501  4 года назад +6

      Switching to Wyvern at level 15, she has about 23 natural hit, for 105 total. Enemy Avo isn’t too high for a while-the sky knights in 14 only have 26 (minus 5 for weapon triangle), archers have 15, and Oni savages have 17. And Wyvern Selena has enough bulk to operate in attack stance, which gives her at least 10 extra hit, more with certain support partners. At promotion she gains 4 Skl and lance access, so you can give her a forged bronze lance as well (like I have).

  • @ebinku
    @ebinku 4 года назад +5

    Could you make a video of how to train Mozu on the early game and on her chapter? I think a lot of people underate her because they say she is hard to train, but I don't think that is true. Thank you!

    • @Zoran501
      @Zoran501  4 года назад +8

      It's in the pipeline! I starting working on that earlier this week

  • @vishuprathikanti9352
    @vishuprathikanti9352 4 года назад +4

    How early do you usually promote elise to malig knight?

    • @Zoran501
      @Zoran501  4 года назад +5

      Usually at level 20, since I typically do Percy's paralogue after 13, and she can use the Bolt Axe to get a lot of kills there, in 14, and in 16. But anywhere from 17 to 20 is a reasonable time, I think.

  • @fallofmanbrand
    @fallofmanbrand 4 года назад

    amazing video

  • @MegaScytheman
    @MegaScytheman 3 года назад +1

    I didn't think the one shot threshold was reasonable but then sniper Effie was able to do it in my run. If given a speed tonic and meal she could have doubled and one shot them

    • @Zoran501
      @Zoran501  3 года назад +1

      bows are stronk

    • @seasaltsky
      @seasaltsky Год назад

      What weapons and other things did you give her during preparations? Any notable skills from other classes or just Archer and then Sniper?

  • @nathankeel6667
    @nathankeel6667 4 года назад

    I remmber when i played this first try on hard it was not has hard compared to what iv heard I stuggled more on fugas wild ride but im shur i wont feel that way when i play on lunitic mabey it was because i thought things threw in ninja hell and wanted to just get fugas over with

  • @jerry3115
    @jerry3115 3 года назад

    22:53 how would this give me a plan in the back pocket for playing fe12 though?