Those seeking wallpapers: I mentioned it in the video, but the app's name is "Live Loop." (And yes, the animations do chug a little on other phones, but not to the extent they do on the Razr.)
Hey Michael! Quick idea for a video? A 'Re-look' at the Lenovo 'Think Phone' seeing that it too is now heavily discounted in price since launch? As 'Tech Odyssey' recently did on his channel, it's shaped up to be a pretty attractive choice for its new low price! 🤔😏👍 😎🇬🇧
It really is this bad. The devices are almost never on the latest security patches and version software updates usually come way after brands like Samsung. It's the same as with any other Chinese brand. You get good hardware for your money, but somewhere these companies have to cut corners and mostly they do it in the software department@@Aves_1
The Razr 5G (2020) was $1400 and only received 2 years software support. Unlike standard handsets the external display requires custom Motorola software and basically makes running a custom ROM impossible. 1st August 2022 is the latest security update. It's pretty pathetic.
It might seem silly, but one of the main reasons I'm interested in the razr is how easily pocketable it is. I'm so tired of having a big slab in my pocket all the time; especially at a time when it's harder to get small smartphones.
The fact that a phone maker was able to make a $699 starting out foldable/flip phone, makes me giddy. Even if I love my Pixel 8 Pro, I have a lot of respect for Motorola for being able to make this a reality.
Most of the compromises mentioned are the ones that have plagued most budget phones, however this is a great effort to get down prices of foldables. Hope it’s not canceled considering the prices.
I’m always happy to see glass alternatives on back of phones. I feel like I’m living in crazy town that majority of people are convinced by marketing that more breakable and heavy glass is “premium”
This! I still miss the stitched leather back of my old LG G4; that truly did feel premium, but was also grippy and aged significantly better than anything glass ever could.
I absolutely LOVE the form factor of the RAZR-. It's exactly the form factor that I want. Yes, even the functionality of the tiny external screen is exactly what I want. Smaller, more durable, and innately more protective than your normal phone, plus fits in your pocket better. This is EXACTLY what I want in a form factor. It's the perfect shape. Hopefully they continue to improve those other details. I'm excited to see the next generation!
It's one phone I considered for my first foldable, but after seeing the camera (which I could never accept when my last phone was a Pixel) I just ended up going for a refurbished flip 4. Pretty happy so far! Just need to get over the anxiety of flipping it open too often and have the screen break.
The performance issue is definitely caused by the software, the CPU is more than capable of smooth experiences on other phones, so hope updates can fix it. I have low hopes since even my Razr+ barely gets updates :(
Can get the Motorola Razr 2023 for as little as $199.99 via Cricket Wireless or Boost Mobile MVNOs. I got my sage green Razr 2023 for $378 plus a trade-in of my iPhone 11. The main display is fantastic. Excellent phone for these low prices. More than enough for most people. Most people don't make phone calls in noisy cities. The call quality, photos/videos and the external display are fine for me. Haven't come across a single (noticeable) bug yet.
Even though the razer 2023 is a bit of a let down, it shows that foldables are starting to become a tad bit cheaper. We’ll see how the quality improves over time.
agreed, this was a huge step in the right direction. And it will keep getting better and better to the point that foldables will also firmly compete in the mid range space
photos are so soft almost unbelievable....sad that $500 doesn't get the quality you deserve for that much hard earned money being spent..Mr Mobile as usual does a fantastic job with his reviews....thank you
@@joelconolly5574I mean - I would at least expect iPhone SE 2020. A device that is 3-4 years old, but uses a camera that's 6 years old - which would basically be budget. And the Moto Razr doesn't even meet that
The samples in GSMArena's review looked fairly acceptable. For a $500 foldable though, what do you expect? It's not the worst thing ever but I'd rather go for last year's Z Flip if I wanted a relatively inexpensive clamshell foldable
I will likely never buy a Moto Razr Flip but I am THRILLED they are expanding in the inexpensive category and lower end more obtainable entry level devices of FOLDING GLASS. It's about getting obtainable devices into peoples hands, the more hands the more folding glass we will see. This is a good start device even if it's not the "best".
The phone being laggy has to be a software thing My Sony Xperia 10 II has a 665 in it and it's not nearly as laggy as the razr in your examples But the 10 II shares the same terrible cameras, or rather the lack of processing power for the cameras causing extremely long shutter times and dodgy focus Edit: 665, not 655
Even Motorola's phones with a Snapdragon 695 in them seem to run Android 13 better than that. Using a G84 right now and was surprised to know it ran terribly on the Razr 40.
I tend to agree, phones with the 600 level chips at these days are not what we would have considered"slow".... In fact frankly when it comes to basic web browsing and just opening and closing apps, you'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference between a mid-range chip from 2019 and a flagship chip from 2024. Obviously some intensive camera features and pushing high frame rates and blah blah blah... But if you're basically for a phone is web browsing and calling then mid-range chips should do the trick. Of course one great flaw of RUclips reviews is that they're almost always done with pre-release software that nobody will use.
@@drachnayeah even the 765 from 2019 is great... I mean I wouldn't want to push 4K video on it for 10 minutes in the sun but for basic web browsing and the kind of stuff you use your phone for most of the.... It's basically indistinguishable from flagship chips. Apps will open a millisecond faster on the newer stuff but that's not really a reason to spend six seven $800 more on a phone unless your hardcore into gaming or photography or you're just an enthusiast of mobile computing
7 gen 1 is actually a good chip for the price, i think it's just the software that made it choppy. Otherwise previous 778g stills holds quite good onto these days
Props to your efforts Michael. The man to turn to for the most pleasing story form reviews on RUclips. You've truly evolved and turned into one of the best tech reviewers.
Something curious about the US market is that very few creators give importance to the pricing as you did which imo can completely change a product from bad to great and I thought this was common sense but people just compare 200$ devices with 1000$ and complain about how bad the cheap one is? I mean no shit sherlock. P.S. great review as always, I love your scripts
The best part about this is that it's being subsidized heavily by prepaid carriers who are offering it for like $200 $250 that is a new situation for the prepaid market, which is sizable in the United States we're very few people actually spend 800 bucks on Android flagships. So sure the enthusiasts who watch this channel would probably spend a few hundred extra dollars and get the eye catching magenta model.... But if you're shoving slick deals and you're seeing that you can get a legitimate brand new flippable for 200 bucks plus maybe a $40 Metro PCS plan (And that's your only financial obligation although it will be unlocked for a few months).... That's a pretty compelling new growth area for flippables
I just buy this phone two weeks ago from metro pcs, the moto razr is really nice and good phone that i really love, plus good price too as it was a good upgrade from my old moto g stylus 2020 to moto razr original is awesome Edit: i love this phone so much, i honestly think the moto razr regular is more repeesent/nostalgic to the original Motorola razr phone (i mean like a modern way, but you know what I mean) is really good while the moto razr plus version has more modern feeling with its external screen
I almost got a Razr 2023. But, I found that you can get a Flip 4 refurb from Amazon for around $350. The Flip 4 is a better phone in ALL ways compared to the Razr 2023. There are 2 things that annoy me about flip phones. The 1st is that they're thick when folded and barely fit in my pants' pockets due to that. 2nd, I use my phone enough to where flipping is becoming a hassle. I thought getting a flip would cause me to use my phone less, but not the case. If when I go to replace my Flip 4 in 2 years or so, I might be willing to try a foldable if I can find an unlocked one at a reasonable price (to me, $599 is the max I spend on a phone unlocked)
Ive had my motorola razr 2023 for a week so far and it's been a great phone, had no problems with it. And its been a very popular phone i have been selling. I had no customer complain about it.
I remember when iPhone 4s was the hotness and it worked smoothly. They are really making us buy their new shit all the time. How are we letting them? All I want is a tough compact phone that does the basics. Yes I use an iPhone SE in an effort to fight screen addiction.
Its the first real budget option in the folding phone market give it one or two generations to get the software and camera in order and that could be a really great option to get the folding phones in the mainstream market.
When I watch a review for a particular product I expect the main focus to be about that particular product I understand about showing differences in phones but I feel like you were just trying to promote me the razor Plus
Not sure why you say transitions stutter and apps take a few seconds more to load .... my phone is so snappy, in fact it is too fast. You just have to touch the phone with an intention to swip up and it does it. It is over responsive and a tad too fast compared to iPhone and other Android phones I have. Apps load super fast. It would have be the snappiest, swiftest phones I've ever uesed. I use Ready For, wirelessly, with my 7 year old Samsung TV and there is no lag whatsoever. It is amazing. Mind blown. I'd heard about Bixby but not about Ready For. What an amazing surprise. Perhaps its your demo device that is slow. And no mention of the 33w fast charger or the frosted clear plastic case or the perfumed box???
I have a Moto Razr. Got it to replace my G8. There are many things I miss about the G8 but I think it's fine. This review is extremely accurate, especially about the camera. It sucks, especially compared to the great camers my LG G8 had. I still just use my LG for most stuff still. I have a DSLR anyway.
Snapdragon 7 Gen 1 is not really a bad chip, but an example like Honor 90 with the accelerated edition might have better optimization all round. Or using dimensity
Razor Minus should be its official name I think it sounds super cute and is a much neeeded counterpart to all these PRO MAX ULTRA nonense - so go "Razor Minus" :D
I like the idea of having a little puck that tells me if I have anything worth looking at (and the time) that I can drop in my pocket. That I can also expand if I want to torture myself with some doom scrolling. But, ueh. The last two phones I have had I had to give up because of durability issues and already I have seen so many images of the screens on these just being completely busted at the fold. It isn't too, too expensive but I don't know if I want to do that again.
We don't all want all of the apps displayed on the outside screen. I've had 2 Samsung Flips (3 and 4) and the outside screen is the same size. I recently bought a Motorola Razr that I am looking forward to using, minus the phatware that always comes with a Samsung phone. Also, the original Motorola Razr was my first phone and so it is neat to buy one 20 something years later when it is improved as a smart device with all the frills.
@@TheMrMobile I agree, however the 7s gen 2 is still a faster chip than the gen 1 and it has shown up in 180 Euro Redmi note 13 pro - therefore definitely not an expensive choice. Perhaps, the next iteration will be that perfect bang for buck foldable the market needs.
I’m almost positive that the Motorola + coming next year might be the best flipping phone of 2024 or the second best cause I’m sure Motorola will address all the compromises like using the latest Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, addressing the hinge and an even better camera, software and IP Rating(Thou not sure of the IP rating) but they’ll likely raise it to IP54 to make it better at least to match up to the industry standard… But that’ll be till we see it
I bought this phone and yeah I can agree with you on the camera and maybe one or two software smoothness issues but hey what can you expect for $500. That being said I don't mind because I bought it specifically to not be on my phone so much. I can't really speak for anyone else.
@@lovescarguitar Yeah, but like I said I bought it so that way there isn't a screen staring at me so I can resist the temptation to just be on my phone all day.
I loved this phone. To one day the screen got a black dot right in fold. Well today the screen went completely black with a line visibly deeper than I've ever seen. Only had the phone 3 months and Motorola wants to much to cover fixing it. Save your money
This phone is king in its own category: flip phone with small outer display. To be fair there is only one competitor: a Flip 4 refurbished (ok Oppo has something too) and this has the better hinge. But this might be a good comparision video: what is better value today? Getting a one year old Samsung or a modern Motorola Basic.
I adore this form factor but as I found out on my flip 5 the cameras are too big a compromise for a dad of two who loves taking photos. So my pixel 8 pro will remain till a folder with a premium camera appears.
It's a little old now but would love to see you do a video on the Motorola Edge+ 2023. That phone is going for $599 with a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 and 512GB. Maybe a combo video with the smaller Edge 2023 selling for $350.
My old phone with SD765G still works just fine (the only apps that lag are the Google's ones). So it must be either a more demanding latest Android version or a bad optimization. P.S. After a second thought, maybe they had to limit the performance due to the thermal footprint. It's rather thin and heat dissipation may not be as good as on a slab.
I'm pretty sure it's not android, I've not noticed any additional load on android itself since android 8, everything since has been incredibly iterative.
ooo, a foldable I'm willing to pay for. But I require a headphone jack. Wouldn't that be awesome? Play music folded up, use the little screen as an MP3 player?
I gotta say, I can drop my cheap regular smartphone on it's screen and not break it. But yours got a black bar when that happened. Makes me still weary of foldables. I'm still interested jut... gotta work up the courage. If they make another cheap foldable, with a headphone jack then I'll go for it.
I haven't watched your videos in a minute and boy do I regret it! Your impeccable attention to detail and incredible ability to orate... One of the greatest reviewers on RUclips
I didnt know you were gonna make a video on this phone. I got this razr about a month ago and its a good phone for the price. Sure it has some flaws like the camera. But honestly for the price this phone is full of features that most phone dont for this price. You cant really hate the phone when for $500 you get a foldable
I still have a Gen 1 Razr flip and its aged bad. I also damaged my front screen but weirdly enough cracked the screen under the protective glass? How does that happen? I made the mistake of having my carrier send me a replacement... Carriers love to send refurbished over new via their insurance agreement and well... its worse than the first one I had with the broken cover screen... much slower, the main camera doesnt even work anymore, the phone shuts down at 20% battery unless battery saver is on... I love the flip... but between my experiences with my carrier and Motorola, I am contemplating Samsungs as my next. Sorry to rant, thanks for your informative videos as usual! Cant wait for the next!
I still stand by saying going to the basic foldable design as a bad decision for the razr because it lost all that made it unique at least to me and tbh the only thing that will get me to consider it over the Samsung alternative would be them adding the headphone jack back into the phone its that much of a selling point to me
I agree at a headphone jack and an SD card. That said I don't blame them for abandoning the nostalgic razor look because it just came to look so dated. Especially on the resale market. But it does suck their phones increasingly look the same. At least they are offered that amazing magenta color and that full screen which was announced long before Samsung was a game changer. And you don't need good lock or anything to open it up to every app. Although it's kind of odd how originally Samsung fans were saying how you wouldn't want to be able to open every app that's not the point.... And then once good lock developers came up with a solution they changed the goal post and was like see Samsung can do it too. I'm generalizing of course, just some of the more egregious Samsung cheerleaders. And I love Samsung I have Galaxy buds and a Galaxy tab and I even have my old Note 9 laying around which I still occasionally use. But second to Apple their fans are the most annoying and sometimes even more so since I only hang out in Android spaces
Hey Michael! Quick idea for a video? A 'Re-look' at the Lenovo 'Think Phone' seeing that it too is now heavily discounted in price since launch? As 'Tech Odyssey' recently did on his channel, it's shaped up to be a pretty attractive choice for its new low price! 🤔😏👍 😎🇬🇧
Finally an honest review. I tested the camera in store and it wasn’t nearly as good as my iPhone 12. I’ll wait till another flip phone comes out with the same price but better cameras.
They had to rebrand rubber as “vegan leather” because of the unfair stigma around having any plastic or polycarbonate on phones, despite its durability
So about as good as a ~$100 phone means the foldable premium is about $400. Not worth it IMO. I know you love foldables Michael so it's good more offerings are entering the space. Top notch review as always. Feel better!
If you're looking for a cheaper flip phone, a refurbished Samsung flip 4 might also be an option. Just picked one up for $300, like new condition. Has the newer gen 8 processor (same as razr+) and better camera. So far, loving it!
3:18 - I absolutely cringed at that and it brought back the time my Z Flip 4 also did a similar drop, with the only difference being it was closed. Never the less, Michael ooooooooooooooouch.
People give mid range phones such a hard time. The camera not galaxy s26 ultra ultra Maxx triple x maxxx capital S galaxy. It's not supposed to lol it's miles better than any budget phone I've used though!
With smartphones becoming way too big and manufacturers no longer producing smaller smartphones with screens between 4,3" and 5", I'd say the flip smartphones are the future, because they accomodate both qualities into 1 device: 1. Having a large screen, and 2. Converting into a small pocketable size when not in use. I'm still waiting for technology to evolve on this category, as these foldable smartphones still suffer from lack of durability and high price tags, not to mention the issue with the lack of software updates across the years compared to what Apple already accustomed us to for 15 years or more.
Honestly, I'd be more than willing to put up with the shortfalls mentioned in the video, unfortunately, the ONLY way to get any Razr here in Ireland is to pay full price in a big box electronics store. None of the major carriers (Eir, Three, Vodafone) even offer it, which is why ended up going for the Z Flip 5 when my contract came up for renewal. I suspect that Samsung's negotiating power with carriers is going to effectively scupper the Razr outside the US, rather than the technical issues.
I love this still of folding phones, much more than the ones that fold like a book. These resemble old flip phones and they fold up smaller, which is nice. I wish Google would make a foldable Pixel like this. I'd be in for sure.
I switched from Android to iPhone 3 years ago and only reason i'd switch back to android is if they make a flip phone really appealing. This Moto Razr really looks good but I wont get a phone slower than my current phone High end Leather Phone please . I'm a no case guy
I would go back to a razr at this price if it just had that classic razr atheistic like it had before. Now it just looks like another foldable. No nostalgia factor. I need that chin!
I love Mr Mobile...best review videos out there...and I love Moto phones...but don't ever, EVER buy direct from Moto...their customer service shows they truly hate their customers...buy from an actual retailer or you'll regret it...keep up the great work Mr Mobile!!!
well, you pay for what you get. You are lucky if you get 1 major update with a phone like this. Dont forget you also pay for the support a company puts in a phone series. If a pixel foldable or samsung foldable is more expensive than a motorola (or Xiaomi, or Oppo) keep in mind, its also 4-6 years of more updates (security counts as well!) they are offering for your phone.
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Those seeking wallpapers: I mentioned it in the video, but the app's name is "Live Loop." (And yes, the animations do chug a little on other phones, but not to the extent they do on the Razr.)
Hey Michael! Quick idea for a video? A 'Re-look' at the Lenovo 'Think Phone' seeing that it too is now heavily discounted in price since launch? As 'Tech Odyssey' recently did on his channel, it's shaped up to be a pretty attractive choice for its new low price! 🤔😏👍
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Thanks for staying honest with your reviews, it might be beneficial in the future to have samples of recorded voice calls maybe, so we can compare :D
Motorola folded the price in half with this one.
I'm a fan of your channel I'm a big fan of your channel your RUclips channel on big fan
@@Beetlejuiidk man, it doesn't look like you like Hugh Jeffreys for real😬
Nice Pun
You should get your hands on this one. Show us what's inside 😊
And now i can finally affold It!
If Motorola had software support for longer than like 20 minutes, I would take their hardware and pretty good pricing MUCH more seriously.
Is it really that bad? Guess I’ll avoid the company’s devices then
It's a little bit work, but use custom ROMs to update the software.
It really is this bad. The devices are almost never on the latest security patches and version software updates usually come way after brands like Samsung. It's the same as with any other Chinese brand. You get good hardware for your money, but somewhere these companies have to cut corners and mostly they do it in the software department@@Aves_1
The Razr 5G (2020) was $1400 and only received 2 years software support. Unlike standard handsets the external display requires custom Motorola software and basically makes running a custom ROM impossible. 1st August 2022 is the latest security update. It's pretty pathetic.
@@sexyscientistnot paying hundreds for a phone and then needing to waste my time on custom roms lol
It might seem silly, but one of the main reasons I'm interested in the razr is how easily pocketable it is. I'm so tired of having a big slab in my pocket all the time; especially at a time when it's harder to get small smartphones.
The fact that a phone maker was able to make a $699 starting out foldable/flip phone, makes me giddy. Even if I love my Pixel 8 Pro, I have a lot of respect for Motorola for being able to make this a reality.
I got both (the plus version), having to open the phone drive me crazy. That phone didn't last me a month.
@@Princeton_JamesSo why did you buy it if opening it was going to be a problem?
@@Princeton_James
>buys a foldable phone
>complains that it folds
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@@ExclamationMarx you fool. You don't know until you use it 🤔
@@v1x4z you fool. You don't know it until you use it 🤔.
Most of the compromises mentioned are the ones that have plagued most budget phones, however this is a great effort to get down prices of foldables. Hope it’s not canceled considering the prices.
I’m always happy to see glass alternatives on back of phones. I feel like I’m living in crazy town that majority of people are convinced by marketing that more breakable and heavy glass is “premium”
It feel Premium but not very durable , i prefer the metal one tho.
I'm OK with plastic back screen, like 2000s phone. Look at Nokia N93i it look very good.
Blame the dumb tech reviewers who ooo and ahh over the build.
This! I still miss the stitched leather back of my old LG G4; that truly did feel premium, but was also grippy and aged significantly better than anything glass ever could.
Ikr. Then they slap a case on it to personalise it
I absolutely LOVE the form factor of the RAZR-. It's exactly the form factor that I want. Yes, even the functionality of the tiny external screen is exactly what I want. Smaller, more durable, and innately more protective than your normal phone, plus fits in your pocket better. This is EXACTLY what I want in a form factor. It's the perfect shape. Hopefully they continue to improve those other details. I'm excited to see the next generation!
Me too, I can't wait for Motorola to make more flip phones in the future, remind me of the good times in the 2000s with flip phones being so popular
It's one phone I considered for my first foldable, but after seeing the camera (which I could never accept when my last phone was a Pixel) I just ended up going for a refurbished flip 4. Pretty happy so far! Just need to get over the anxiety of flipping it open too often and have the screen break.
The performance issue is definitely caused by the software, the CPU is more than capable of smooth experiences on other phones, so hope updates can fix it. I have low hopes since even my Razr+ barely gets updates :(
Can get the Motorola Razr 2023 for as little as $199.99 via Cricket Wireless or Boost Mobile MVNOs.
I got my sage green Razr 2023 for $378 plus a trade-in of my iPhone 11. The main display is fantastic.
Excellent phone for these low prices. More than enough for most people. Most people don't make phone calls in noisy cities.
The call quality, photos/videos and the external display are fine for me. Haven't come across a single (noticeable) bug yet.
I just got an upgrade through boost mobile for $150. Didnt have to trade in my Samsung A20 and sold it for $100. Big W
Even though the razer 2023 is a bit of a let down, it shows that foldables are starting to become a tad bit cheaper. We’ll see how the quality improves over time.
agreed, this was a huge step in the right direction. And it will keep getting better and better to the point that foldables will also firmly compete in the mid range space
photos are so soft almost unbelievable....sad that $500 doesn't get the quality you deserve for that much hard earned money being spent..Mr Mobile as usual does a fantastic job with his reviews....thank you
Photos are fine
What you expect a DSLR? A Pixel? Y'all think you want everything a $1000 flagship can do for $500 and expect miracles too lol
@@joelconolly5574I mean - I would at least expect iPhone SE 2020. A device that is 3-4 years old, but uses a camera that's 6 years old - which would basically be budget. And the Moto Razr doesn't even meet that
The samples in GSMArena's review looked fairly acceptable. For a $500 foldable though, what do you expect? It's not the worst thing ever but I'd rather go for last year's Z Flip if I wanted a relatively inexpensive clamshell foldable
@@someusername1872It's $700 Reduced to $500. Like how the Z Flip 5 is $1000 reduced to $800
I will likely never buy a Moto Razr Flip but I am THRILLED they are expanding in the inexpensive category and lower end more obtainable entry level devices of FOLDING GLASS. It's about getting obtainable devices into peoples hands, the more hands the more folding glass we will see. This is a good start device even if it's not the "best".
The phone being laggy has to be a software thing
My Sony Xperia 10 II has a 665 in it and it's not nearly as laggy as the razr in your examples
But the 10 II shares the same terrible cameras, or rather the lack of processing power for the cameras causing extremely long shutter times and dodgy focus
Edit: 665, not 655
Same, I have a 778G in my phone and it's still quite snappy after two years.
Even Motorola's phones with a Snapdragon 695 in them seem to run Android 13 better than that. Using a G84 right now and was surprised to know it ran terribly on the Razr 40.
I tend to agree, phones with the 600 level chips at these days are not what we would have considered"slow".... In fact frankly when it comes to basic web browsing and just opening and closing apps, you'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference between a mid-range chip from 2019 and a flagship chip from 2024.
Obviously some intensive camera features and pushing high frame rates and blah blah blah... But if you're basically for a phone is web browsing and calling then mid-range chips should do the trick.
Of course one great flaw of RUclips reviews is that they're almost always done with pre-release software that nobody will use.
@@drachnayeah even the 765 from 2019 is great... I mean I wouldn't want to push 4K video on it for 10 minutes in the sun but for basic web browsing and the kind of stuff you use your phone for most of the.... It's basically indistinguishable from flagship chips.
Apps will open a millisecond faster on the newer stuff but that's not really a reason to spend six seven $800 more on a phone unless your hardcore into gaming or photography or you're just an enthusiast of mobile computing
It must be terribly optimized or outright faulty. I have seen reviews of really cheap phones that don't experience such problems.
7 gen 1 is actually a good chip for the price, i think it's just the software that made it choppy. Otherwise previous 778g stills holds quite good onto these days
Props to your efforts Michael. The man to turn to for the most pleasing story form reviews on RUclips. You've truly evolved and turned into one of the best tech reviewers.
Your disliking of this won’t sway me from enjoying the Razr 2023.
Something curious about the US market is that very few creators give importance to the pricing as you did which imo can completely change a product from bad to great and I thought this was common sense but people just compare 200$ devices with 1000$ and complain about how bad the cheap one is? I mean no shit sherlock.
P.S. great review as always, I love your scripts
The best part about this is that it's being subsidized heavily by prepaid carriers who are offering it for like $200 $250 that is a new situation for the prepaid market, which is sizable in the United States we're very few people actually spend 800 bucks on Android flagships. So sure the enthusiasts who watch this channel would probably spend a few hundred extra dollars and get the eye catching magenta model....
But if you're shoving slick deals and you're seeing that you can get a legitimate brand new flippable for 200 bucks plus maybe a $40 Metro PCS plan (And that's your only financial obligation although it will be unlocked for a few months).... That's a pretty compelling new growth area for flippables
I just buy this phone two weeks ago from metro pcs, the moto razr is really nice and good phone that i really love, plus good price too as it was a good upgrade from my old moto g stylus 2020 to moto razr original is awesome
Edit: i love this phone so much, i honestly think the moto razr regular is more repeesent/nostalgic to the original Motorola razr phone (i mean like a modern way, but you know what I mean) is really good while the moto razr plus version has more modern feeling with its external screen
How is the durability today, if you're still using it?
I almost got a Razr 2023. But, I found that you can get a Flip 4 refurb from Amazon for around $350. The Flip 4 is a better phone in ALL ways compared to the Razr 2023. There are 2 things that annoy me about flip phones. The 1st is that they're thick when folded and barely fit in my pants' pockets due to that. 2nd, I use my phone enough to where flipping is becoming a hassle. I thought getting a flip would cause me to use my phone less, but not the case. If when I go to replace my Flip 4 in 2 years or so, I might be willing to try a foldable if I can find an unlocked one at a reasonable price (to me, $599 is the max I spend on a phone unlocked)
Me at the start: “$499 for a foldable! What a time to be alive!”
Me now: “$199 for a foldable! What a freaking time to be alive!!”
Ive had my motorola razr 2023 for a week so far and it's been a great phone, had no problems with it. And its been a very popular phone i have been selling. I had no customer complain about it.
Thinking of getting this phone what are your likes and dislikes?
I remember when iPhone 4s was the hotness and it worked smoothly.
They are really making us buy their new shit all the time.
How are we letting them?
All I want is a tough compact phone that does the basics.
Yes I use an iPhone SE in an effort to fight screen addiction.
Its the first real budget option in the folding phone market give it one or two generations to get the software and camera in order and that could be a really great option to get the folding phones in the mainstream market.
Watching this on my flip . Use it for my work phone but above par for everything . Social media. Email. Etc ...great phone for a great price !
When I watch a review for a particular product I expect the main focus to be about that particular product I understand about showing differences in phones but I feel like you were just trying to promote me the razor Plus
Not sure why you say transitions stutter and apps take a few seconds more to load .... my phone is so snappy, in fact it is too fast. You just have to touch the phone with an intention to swip up and it does it. It is over responsive and a tad too fast compared to iPhone and other Android phones I have. Apps load super fast. It would have be the snappiest, swiftest phones I've ever uesed.
I use Ready For, wirelessly, with my 7 year old Samsung TV and there is no lag whatsoever. It is amazing. Mind blown. I'd heard about Bixby but not about Ready For. What an amazing surprise.
Perhaps its your demo device that is slow.
And no mention of the 33w fast charger or the frosted clear plastic case or the perfumed box???
I have a Moto Razr. Got it to replace my G8. There are many things I miss about the G8 but I think it's fine. This review is extremely accurate, especially about the camera. It sucks, especially compared to the great camers my LG G8 had. I still just use my LG for most stuff still. I have a DSLR anyway.
How about the lagging part.... I dont care about the camera i just want a smooth day2day use... I really like the design so im considering
@@MetapodUsedHarden9 phone performs just fine with no lag to me
@@AveryatTwoohFive alright then thank u
Snapdragon 7 Gen 1 is not really a bad chip, but an example like Honor 90 with the accelerated edition might have better optimization all round. Or using dimensity
Razor Minus should be its official name I think it sounds super cute and is a much neeeded counterpart to all these PRO MAX ULTRA nonense - so go "Razor Minus" :D
I like the idea of having a little puck that tells me if I have anything worth looking at (and the time) that I can drop in my pocket. That I can also expand if I want to torture myself with some doom scrolling. But, ueh. The last two phones I have had I had to give up because of durability issues and already I have seen so many images of the screens on these just being completely busted at the fold. It isn't too, too expensive but I don't know if I want to do that again.
We don't all want all of the apps displayed on the outside screen. I've had 2 Samsung Flips (3 and 4) and the outside screen is the same size. I recently bought a Motorola Razr that I am looking forward to using, minus the phatware that always comes with a Samsung phone. Also, the original Motorola Razr was my first phone and so it is neat to buy one 20 something years later when it is improved as a smart device with all the frills.
Thank you for showing the Menora, Michael. I respect you even more now than before. 👍
Even when i feel it is not mature, i love this folding revolution, nice video Mr. Fisher
Hey Mr. Mobile. Thank you for the great review. I'm hoping you feel better soon!
They could have easily gone with the Snapdragon 7+ Gen 2 on this and made it a much better overall experience.
I'd wager it was all about getting the bill of materials low enough to produce a cheap foldable at scale. 7 Gen 1 has gotta be substantially cheaper.
@@TheMrMobile I agree, however the 7s gen 2 is still a faster chip than the gen 1 and it has shown up in 180 Euro Redmi note 13 pro - therefore definitely not an expensive choice. Perhaps, the next iteration will be that perfect bang for buck foldable the market needs.
@@SMTahmidthe phone was designed and created way before 7s gen 2 came into the picture
Hope you're feeling better, Michael! Do you have any plans to do more long-term-use reviews on the motorola foldables?
I’m almost positive that the Motorola + coming next year might be the best flipping phone of 2024 or the second best cause I’m sure Motorola will address all the compromises like using the latest Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, addressing the hinge and an even better camera, software and IP Rating(Thou not sure of the IP rating) but they’ll likely raise it to IP54 to make it better at least to match up to the industry standard… But that’ll be till we see it
I bought this phone and yeah I can agree with you on the camera and maybe one or two software smoothness issues but hey what can you expect for $500. That being said I don't mind because I bought it specifically to not be on my phone so much. I can't really speak for anyone else.
Pixels use to be at that price point and still did not have those issues.
@@lovescarguitar Yeah, but like I said I bought it so that way there isn't a screen staring at me so I can resist the temptation to just be on my phone all day.
The double tap on the outer screen for the camera doesn't work. Do I have to activate this function? I couldn't find any option in the settings.
I just returned the plus, it had way too many heat issues. Also, an area of the screen that didn't work without any drops.
I wanna see tcl on the tech market i dont feel like im hearing them enough.
Sadly, TCL seems to have abandoned its ambitious high-end efforts in favor of mid-range products. I dig their e-paper competitor though.
I loved this phone. To one day the screen got a black dot right in fold. Well today the screen went completely black with a line visibly deeper than I've ever seen. Only had the phone 3 months and Motorola wants to much to cover fixing it. Save your money
This phone is king in its own category: flip phone with small outer display. To be fair there is only one competitor: a Flip 4 refurbished (ok Oppo has something too) and this has the better hinge. But this might be a good comparision video: what is better value today? Getting a one year old Samsung or a modern Motorola Basic.
I adore this form factor but as I found out on my flip 5 the cameras are too big a compromise for a dad of two who loves taking photos. So my pixel 8 pro will remain till a folder with a premium camera appears.
2:40 did you make those Flight wall pictures yourself? I like the Idea to have it as a memory.
It's a little old now but would love to see you do a video on the Motorola Edge+ 2023. That phone is going for $599 with a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 and 512GB. Maybe a combo video with the smaller Edge 2023 selling for $350.
My old phone with SD765G still works just fine (the only apps that lag are the Google's ones).
So it must be either a more demanding latest Android version or a bad optimization.
P.S. After a second thought, maybe they had to limit the performance due to the thermal footprint. It's rather thin and heat dissipation may not be as good as on a slab.
I'm pretty sure it's not android, I've not noticed any additional load on android itself since android 8, everything since has been incredibly iterative.
I wish the thickness of these things would be as thick as a normal phone while folded. this is what I am waiting for.
I still miss your windows phone reviews!
I was genuinely planning to buy this and was feeling sad that there is no review from you on this. Guess the 1st minute saved me 😂
Please note that the noise reduction setting states that it is for VoIP calls.
ooo, a foldable I'm willing to pay for. But I require a headphone jack.
Wouldn't that be awesome? Play music folded up, use the little screen as an MP3 player?
I got mine for a free upgrade and mine doesn't seem as laggy or as bad. My camera is great... Maybe software update helped??
I gotta say, I can drop my cheap regular smartphone on it's screen and not break it.
But yours got a black bar when that happened. Makes me still weary of foldables.
I'm still interested jut... gotta work up the courage.
If they make another cheap foldable, with a headphone jack then I'll go for it.
He didn't drop his phone, he threw it across the room...
I haven't watched your videos in a minute and boy do I regret it! Your impeccable attention to detail and incredible ability to orate... One of the greatest reviewers on RUclips
I didnt know you were gonna make a video on this phone. I got this razr about a month ago and its a good phone for the price. Sure it has some flaws like the camera. But honestly for the price this phone is full of features that most phone dont for this price. You cant really hate the phone when for $500 you get a foldable
how is it holding up?
I still have a Gen 1 Razr flip and its aged bad. I also damaged my front screen but weirdly enough cracked the screen under the protective glass? How does that happen? I made the mistake of having my carrier send me a replacement... Carriers love to send refurbished over new via their insurance agreement and well... its worse than the first one I had with the broken cover screen... much slower, the main camera doesnt even work anymore, the phone shuts down at 20% battery unless battery saver is on... I love the flip... but between my experiences with my carrier and Motorola, I am contemplating Samsungs as my next.
Sorry to rant, thanks for your informative videos as usual! Cant wait for the next!
I still stand by saying going to the basic foldable design as a bad decision for the razr because it lost all that made it unique at least to me and tbh the only thing that will get me to consider it over the Samsung alternative would be them adding the headphone jack back into the phone its that much of a selling point to me
I agree at a headphone jack and an SD card. That said I don't blame them for abandoning the nostalgic razor look because it just came to look so dated. Especially on the resale market.
But it does suck their phones increasingly look the same. At least they are offered that amazing magenta color and that full screen which was announced long before Samsung was a game changer.
And you don't need good lock or anything to open it up to every app.
Although it's kind of odd how originally Samsung fans were saying how you wouldn't want to be able to open every app that's not the point.... And then once good lock developers came up with a solution they changed the goal post and was like see Samsung can do it too.
I'm generalizing of course, just some of the more egregious Samsung cheerleaders. And I love Samsung I have Galaxy buds and a Galaxy tab and I even have my old Note 9 laying around which I still occasionally use.
But second to Apple their fans are the most annoying and sometimes even more so since I only hang out in Android spaces
Hey Michael! Quick idea for a video? A 'Re-look' at the Lenovo 'Think Phone' seeing that it too is now heavily discounted in price since launch? As 'Tech Odyssey' recently did on his channel, it's shaped up to be a pretty attractive choice for its new low price! 🤔😏👍
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Speedy recovery Michael!
Finally an honest review. I tested the camera in store and it wasn’t nearly as good as my iPhone 12. I’ll wait till another flip phone comes out with the same price but better cameras.
I could tell while watching your video and hearing ur voice that you didn't sound like someone who's feeling well. Wishing you a fast recovery.
I work at a phone store and I actually really like the design of this phone.
Too bad the mini tablet sized foldables aren’t getting price cuts. These flip phones are just a worse regular slab phone that can fold in half.
They had to rebrand rubber as “vegan leather” because of the unfair stigma around having any plastic or polycarbonate on phones, despite its durability
So about as good as a ~$100 phone means the foldable premium is about $400. Not worth it IMO. I know you love foldables Michael so it's good more offerings are entering the space. Top notch review as always. Feel better!
If you're looking for a cheaper flip phone, a refurbished Samsung flip 4 might also be an option. Just picked one up for $300, like new condition. Has the newer gen 8 processor (same as razr+) and better camera. So far, loving it!
That „sharpening“ pun… nice. 😊
Great review, Michael
So glad to hear Mrs Mobile get a mention (Michaels mum) 😊😊 great review as always, thank you ❤❤
this looks like a great entry flip phone for kids in middle school and high school ----- just like when I had an original Razr in HS.
3:18 - I absolutely cringed at that and it brought back the time my Z Flip 4 also did a similar drop, with the only difference being it was closed. Never the less, Michael ooooooooooooooouch.
People give mid range phones such a hard time. The camera not galaxy s26 ultra ultra Maxx triple x maxxx capital S galaxy. It's not supposed to lol it's miles better than any budget phone I've used though!
Michael, AI will not be able to generate script like you do, never! The best-script-tech-youtuber, period!
Would have been really cool if they'd placed a proper qwerty-keyboard on lower half instead of betting on display hinge.
Get well soon Michael, and thanks for another banger.
I was actually waiting for your reviews before deciding on the Razr models... glad I did
With smartphones becoming way too big and manufacturers no longer producing smaller smartphones with screens between 4,3" and 5", I'd say the flip smartphones are the future, because they accomodate both qualities into 1 device: 1. Having a large screen, and 2. Converting into a small pocketable size when not in use. I'm still waiting for technology to evolve on this category, as these foldable smartphones still suffer from lack of durability and high price tags, not to mention the issue with the lack of software updates across the years compared to what Apple already accustomed us to for 15 years or more.
Always enjoy your videos. Thanks for being honest and informative!
Honestly, I'd be more than willing to put up with the shortfalls mentioned in the video, unfortunately, the ONLY way to get any Razr here in Ireland is to pay full price in a big box electronics store. None of the major carriers (Eir, Three, Vodafone) even offer it, which is why ended up going for the Z Flip 5 when my contract came up for renewal. I suspect that Samsung's negotiating power with carriers is going to effectively scupper the Razr outside the US, rather than the technical issues.
Looking at this vid thru my moto razr 2023. I love my phone. Got it for less than 300 😊
I love this still of folding phones, much more than the ones that fold like a book. These resemble old flip phones and they fold up smaller, which is nice. I wish Google would make a foldable Pixel like this. I'd be in for sure.
Any phone that makes LACRS software/Apps slow and glitchy, is out for me. LOL
Thank you for another honest review.
I switched from Android to iPhone 3 years ago and only reason i'd switch back to android is if they make a flip phone really appealing.
This Moto Razr really looks good but I wont get a phone slower than my current phone
High end Leather Phone please . I'm a no case guy
Why can't it have physical keyboard?
I would go back to a razr at this price if it just had that classic razr atheistic like it had before. Now it just looks like another foldable. No nostalgia factor. I need that chin!
I love Mr Mobile...best review videos out there...and I love Moto phones...but don't ever, EVER buy direct from Moto...their customer service shows they truly hate their customers...buy from an actual retailer or you'll regret it...keep up the great work Mr Mobile!!!
I got mine from Cricket for $350....I had the Razr + earlier in the summer...I like the cheaper one better. Build Quality Seems like it's 10x better.
6:22 Wait whoa!!! Where were you around all that eurorack gear???
This is what I call an intro!!
3:20 OUCH! Is that why you started using your Viva Magenta Razr+ over your Glacier Blue one?
IT'S HAPPENING!!
well, you pay for what you get. You are lucky if you get 1 major update with a phone like this. Dont forget you also pay for the support a company puts in a phone series. If a pixel foldable or samsung foldable is more expensive than a motorola (or Xiaomi, or Oppo) keep in mind, its also 4-6 years of more updates (security counts as well!) they are offering for your phone.
3:23 NGL I winced badly at that. Like when you dropped that XPS 13.
Merry Christmas MrMobile 😊
I got one an I think it's fine can't beat 399.99 I sold my s23 ultra an I honestly don't miss it either