Van Helsing - First Viewing

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  • Nostalgia Critic was pretty harsh in his review, did Doug and Rob think the same thing when watching Van Helsing?
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    Van Helsing is a 2004 American horror film written and directed by Stephen Sommers. It stars Hugh Jackman as vigilante monster hunter Van Helsing, and Kate Beckinsale as Anna Valerious.
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Комментарии • 975

  • @velociraptor4you3291
    @velociraptor4you3291 6 лет назад +510

    Personally, out of all of Universal's modern day attempts to reinvent Frankenstein's Monster, Dracula, and the Wolfman for this generation, I say "Van Helsing" had a *lot* more genuine effort behind it than the two "Dark Universe" films.

    • @samuelbrasher5677
      @samuelbrasher5677 5 лет назад +17

      Yeah there was Dracula: Untold back in 2013 I wanna say

    • @normora877
      @normora877 4 года назад +24

      The 2010 Wolfman was the best and most respectful to the classics in that it was an atmospheric HORROR film and not popcorn movie schlock. The werewolf design by Rick Baker is amazing. At least it’s real practical effects and not CGI overload. I disagree that there was “genuine effort” by Van Helsing to do the monsters justice. Van Helsing was just cartoony action schlock with little to no plot and weak characters. Great if you love it, but the Universal Monsters deserve better.

    • @velociraptor4you3291
      @velociraptor4you3291 4 года назад +2

      @@samuelbrasher5677 OK, there was that. I thought that was a fine film, too, but I didn't exactly come out of the theater 'loving' it. I would put it as 'good, but not great.'

    • @velociraptor4you3291
      @velociraptor4you3291 4 года назад +10

      @@normora877 OK, I'll give the 2010 "Wolfman" props for those, too. But I personally found *its* story and characters weak; I also didn't buy into the angle they were playing up with regard to Lawrence's father (a.k.a. Anthony Hopkins), nor did I feel that sense of 'tragedy' to Lawrence's character once he started becoming the Wolfman.
      I didn't find anything 'weak' or 'schlocky' about "Van Helsing's" story, characters, or action/effects. How exactly were the effects 'cartoony?' Sure, they don't look or move exactly like CGI today, but they didn't come across as 'cartoony' to me. I've seen it so many times that i for one don't see how the characters or plot of it are 'weak' either. I for one buy into the development of Van Helsing, his allies, and his enemies: Richard Roxburgh goes over the top as Dracula, sure. But I believe that's the angle Stephen Sommers WANTED for that specific incarnation of the character. And it's not like he's 100% one-note: he emotes, and he seems to genuinely enjoying herself in the role.
      There's no tragedy to Shuler Hensley's Frankenstein's Monster? I for one say there is. They kept the 'misunderstood' aspect of that character: he didn't want to be a pawn, all he wanted was to be allowed to live, to find his place in the world...and I like that he got that in the end.
      It's also not like the entire film was action. There were PLENTY of scenes in "Van Helsing" where action wasn't necessary and that were dedicated to exploring the characters, presenting the plot, world-building, and such.
      I could go on and on, but I *respectfully disagree* that "Van Helsing" is just 'schlock with no story and weak characters.' Please don't get offended, this is just me expressing MY personal opinion and MY personal opinion alone.
      People nowadays get unnecessarily offended whenever someone else has an opinion of a certain film that is outside the "norm." And I find it really irritating.

    • @RVered
      @RVered 4 года назад +2

      1. That's a REALLY low bar.
      2. Even that low bar is debatable. At least The Mummy had some practical stunts like that airplane thing. This is an ugly CGI slog. As Doug pointed out, they CGI'd that mouth thing instead of going practical like Blade II. If that's not lazy, I don't know what is. It's also by far the longest and most boring.

  • @TheIrelander95
    @TheIrelander95 6 лет назад +627

    I gotta be honest this movie is a major guilty pleasure to me. It's basically a weird movie version of Castlevania which I find really enjoyable.

    • @NightLight9595
      @NightLight9595 6 лет назад +18

      I'm with ya on that

    • @dreamlandnightmare
      @dreamlandnightmare 6 лет назад +37

      Sadly, as bad as this movie is, it's still probably better than any actual live-action Castlevania adaption that would ever be made.

    • @DancinDane
      @DancinDane 6 лет назад +14

      And the soundtrack is awesome!

    • @dreamlandnightmare
      @dreamlandnightmare 6 лет назад +11

      @William Slattery
      Like Doug pointed out, Dracula and all the bells and whistles are fun.What sinks the movie is the dull, undevloped, one-dimensional characterizations of the leads, with whom we spend the vast majority of time.

    • @gregorywalter2540
      @gregorywalter2540 6 лет назад +5

      I agree. I liken it to a Gothic swashbuckler movie.

  • @ceruleanwalker1069
    @ceruleanwalker1069 6 лет назад +395

    If you read the book, Jekyl was evil. Hyde isn't another personality, he's Jekyl with all the brakes off and he does it because he likes it.

    • @stephenmarco2927
      @stephenmarco2927 6 лет назад +66

      Well, in the book Jekyll wanted to do evil but his conscience wouldn’t allow it. The point of the formula was to theoretically split his personalities into a bad side and a good side but it didn’t work because Jekyll was not all good unlike what most adaptations tell you. He continued to drink the formula even after murdering a child as Hyde for example.

    • @77yvurc
      @77yvurc 6 лет назад +17

      Regardless of the origins, in the movie we agree that Jekyll was still at fault. Or at the very least Hellsing was trying to kill Hyde and he turned back at a bad time.....wait he woulda have killed Jekyll anyway since they are the same person.....and he killed over a dozen people....how was he innocent? Kinda screwed the review comment here and on the nostalgia episode on that bit.
      Jekyll=guilty

    • @fabiovarra3698
      @fabiovarra3698 6 лет назад +9

      In the book the formula act as powerful drug for Jekyl, he can't bring himself to stop after the euphoria he enjoy when turned in Hyde

    • @fungusonus
      @fungusonus 6 лет назад +2

      Fabio Varrà he does stop in the end by killing himself, i think

    • @maxreardon1149
      @maxreardon1149 6 лет назад +5

      Regardless of any of that both the review and first watch kinda imply that Helsing should have saved him as he was already falling. That’s how I’ve heard them argue letting jekyl die. The monster is at the very least evil, they even tell us how many people and animals he’s killed just cause he can and that’s who Helsing faces. Idk if the movie though is saying the monster just returned to normal form so he would die and potentially get Helsing in trouble or if that was what was going to happen when he died anyway, no matter how he died.
      In the end isn’t death better anyway? Probably would have been tortured by the priests and then tried to separate the consciousness’ and weaponize the monster

  • @bobdole4916
    @bobdole4916 6 лет назад +306

    In the book, yes - Jekyll is evil.
    He knows that his potion turns him into a monster, but he keeps taking it anyway. He gives into the worst part of himself.

    • @stephenmarco2927
      @stephenmarco2927 6 лет назад +22

      Well he intentionally created it to turn him into a monster or to separate his good and evil halves. He kept on taking it even after he learned Hyde murdered a child

    • @ringostingo5892
      @ringostingo5892 4 года назад +6

      No, he starts changing unwillingly and then removes Hyde from the world at the expense of his own life.....

    • @RVered
      @RVered 4 года назад +3

      The fact that you reduced one of the most complex and timeless character's morality to "evil" shows you have either never read the book or are too dumb to understand anything beyond this movie. Go all the way and just call him "bad dude."

    • @bobdole4916
      @bobdole4916 4 года назад +6

      @@RVered Dude, the guy made a potion so he could do the things he *wanted* to do without anybody knowing it was him.
      He's not some noble or tragic character, he's a brilliant mind giving into his basest and evilest desires - which include murder.
      That's pretty much the textbook definition of evil and his suicide and confession doesn't change that - it's him avoiding having to face anyone he's wronged just like he did with the creation of the potion in the beginning.

    • @RVered
      @RVered 4 года назад +2

      @@bobdole4916 Even if you never read it, a quick Wikipedia search would reveal the leading motif of the book:
      "The novella is frequently interpreted as an examination of the duality of human nature, usually expressed as an inner struggle between good and evil"

  • @dicio4001
    @dicio4001 6 лет назад +162

    They managed to make a unique take on the old Dracula formula. Not simply upper class snob or an ultimately evil monster but something in between.
    What we got was a middle aged actually charismatic, sensibly yet royal'i dressed believable Dracula. Obviously wonderfully camp yet not totally over the top. I mean he is probably one of the most "reasonable" looking and talking Draculas out of them all.
    He still had class and tried to "present" himself even in stupid combat scenarios and obviously again, wonderfully seasoned campiness.

    • @ObsidianNightFury
      @ObsidianNightFury 2 года назад +2

      I like this portrayal of Dracula cause he can pass as a normal person and no one would know

  • @AxeKick80
    @AxeKick80 6 лет назад +342

    That werewolf design...best werewolf ever. Hugh’s black one especially.

    • @bookwormgamer3924
      @bookwormgamer3924 4 года назад +17

      It was one of the better designs for a werewolf to be seen in a movie. And Hugh Jackman's character's werewolf form was pretty awesome in the way he looked very intimidating.

    • @markusforsberg6741
      @markusforsberg6741 4 года назад +8

      Then you havent seen a lot of werewolfs movies for exp 80s werewolf movies.

    • @goji253
      @goji253 4 года назад +10

      @@markusforsberg6741 Mate most werewolf designs in live-action media are horrendous.
      They all either look too human, are just straight-up normal wolves or they basically evoke the feeling of shaved, inbred dogs.
      It's like moviemakers love to conveniently ignore all the amazing art from comics, books or random artists you can find on the internet, depicting visually pleasing yet intimidating werewolves and just go "let us do none of that"
      Hell, some of the movies that are being praised for their good designs like Howl, Dog Soldiers or Ginger Snaps aren't anything to shake a stick at if you ask me.

    • @V4Now
      @V4Now 3 года назад +1

      Nah, underworld win just be virtue of being a practical effect.💁🏾‍♂️

    • @jlogan2228
      @jlogan2228 3 года назад +1

      Fun part was each werewolf had different features like different snout or ear shape

  • @justinmcinnis8153
    @justinmcinnis8153 6 лет назад +226

    "Have you no heart?"
    "NO!!!!!!!!!" 😂😂😂

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb 6 лет назад +11

      "Have you no acting lessons?"
      "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

    • @SynthApprentice
      @SynthApprentice 6 лет назад +8

      "I HAVE NO HEART!"

    • @Sonichero151
      @Sonichero151 6 лет назад +13

      "NO!!! For God's sake we've been fucking married for eternity and you just not fucking realized this? Jeez you're dumb!!!"

    • @bromodragone8405
      @bromodragone8405 6 лет назад +2

      @@ThreadBomb Have you no agent?

    • @lolohets6467
      @lolohets6467 4 года назад +7

      I FEEL NO LOVE
      NO FEAR
      NO JOY
      NO SORROOOH
      I AM HOLOOOOOOOOH

  • @fredarok579
    @fredarok579 6 лет назад +191

    Fun “Fact”: the first person in film to say “I can handle myself.” was Olive Oyl. The first in video games was Princess Peach.

  • @phatman8986
    @phatman8986 6 лет назад +280

    This movie is my guilty pleasure

    • @jamesfitzgerald1021
      @jamesfitzgerald1021 6 лет назад +29

      Mine too i rather enjoy the campy silly nature of the film. Much more fun than the mummy. Your not ment to take it seriously.Also the ladies are rather hot.

    • @Ellthom
      @Ellthom 6 лет назад +3

      I do admit I do enjoy this movie too :P

    • @KitasuArano
      @KitasuArano 6 лет назад +2

      Same

    • @Nagarath16
      @Nagarath16 6 лет назад +18

      I actually like this movie without it being guilty pleasure. I can't give good reason for it. I just like it.
      It's not the best movie ever made but still.. I really enjoy it. Without laughing at it.

    • @LostieTrekieTechie
      @LostieTrekieTechie 6 лет назад +4

      It's well aged cheese

  • @queenlover007
    @queenlover007 6 лет назад +110

    I never watched this movie for Helsing or Anna (I mean Hugh Jackman is great don't get me wrong) but I seriously always watched it for Dracula. Like Doug mentions in the film, I wanted the movie to be just about Drac. He was so over the top and dramatic but that was why he was so great!

    • @SynthApprentice
      @SynthApprentice 6 лет назад +8

      NO! I HAVE NO HEART!

    • @PassTheMarmalade1957
      @PassTheMarmalade1957 6 лет назад +18

      He CARRIES this movie. It also makes the weirdness of the typical Dracula's Bride - the elaborate, flowing costumes, the constant wailing and hissing, the fact that they move in interpretative dance - actually make sense. Usually, Dracula is either really monstrous or really regal, making the behaviour of his Brides look like he's firing duds and making broken vampires. Here, he's just as fantastically corny as they are!
      Honestly, why did they get Hugh Jackman and Kate Beckinsale to play their roles straight when they're up against cartoon characters?! It makes them look boring.

  • @cheezemonkeyeater
    @cheezemonkeyeater 6 лет назад +165

    "The Care Bears meet Dracula."
    There was an episode of the show that was basically that. Only Dracula ran a circus for some reason.

    • @L337playing
      @L337playing 6 лет назад +3

      @Musical Equality Sounds like the Hollow Knight DLC.

    • @FIRSTNAMELASTNAME-zt4kf
      @FIRSTNAMELASTNAME-zt4kf 6 лет назад +1

      Sounds like the perfect trap for Dracula to get blood.

  • @chaseendricks2981
    @chaseendricks2981 6 лет назад +222

    I'm still waiting on the movie starring Hannibal, The girl from Ring, Jason and Jigsaw. With extra accounting from the Accountant, the REAL star. GET ON IT HOLLYWOOD!

    • @SigfriedBigcheeseVanMemelordII
      @SigfriedBigcheeseVanMemelordII 6 лет назад +6

      This is bullshit

    • @aidoomcgoo7916
      @aidoomcgoo7916 6 лет назад +7

      Then have Freddy Krueger's glove in a case, an mp4 with Pinhead showing up and some casual conversation about some killer from Texas with a chainsaw who went on a massacre.
      It's a smart and creative way to set up the Dark'er Cinematic Universe

    • @CanadianBaconPwnage
      @CanadianBaconPwnage 6 лет назад +5

      You forgot the Invisible Man.

    • @andrewyp6724
      @andrewyp6724 6 лет назад +6

      Sounds like the next Scary Movie material.

    • @zachsutton9866
      @zachsutton9866 6 лет назад +2

      I think her name is Samara

  • @NovelTeaOne
    @NovelTeaOne 6 лет назад +86

    This movie is a guilty pleasure for me. I love it despite how dated it is.

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo 6 лет назад +226

    You guys need to Stop promising you won't see a movie. It pretty much guarantees you're going to Have to watch it.

    • @anthonyrodriguez8788
      @anthonyrodriguez8788 6 лет назад +18

      I can take care of myself.
      Translation: I'm gonna be kidnapped.

    • @keriezy
      @keriezy 6 лет назад +8

      Well.... it's been 25 years and I still haven't seen "The Nightmare Before Christmas".

    • @gamersinacontainer
      @gamersinacontainer 6 лет назад +2

      keriezy That’s a mistake you must rectify.

  • @anonymousgoblin792
    @anonymousgoblin792 6 лет назад +94

    And of course they don’t mention how cool that Werewolf vs Dracula fight scene was.

  • @fredarok579
    @fredarok579 6 лет назад +128

    I think she’s saying “Do you like to fly, Anna.”

    • @lego4virgo
      @lego4virgo 6 лет назад +17

      Yes, she is. Don't know how Doug didn't get that.

    • @Nagarath16
      @Nagarath16 6 лет назад +15

      Yes she does and they just totally missed it.

    • @skylx0812
      @skylx0812 6 лет назад +4

      Sounds like a vampiress drug dealer.

    • @bromodragone8405
      @bromodragone8405 4 года назад +1

      @@Mr.DiughGames WHAT!? And he calls himself a professional critic.

    • @LeeroyTheWrathBear
      @LeeroyTheWrathBear 4 года назад +1

      @@bromodragone8405 Not really. He acknowledges he makes mistakes cuz he’s human like all of us.

  • @willowleaves2008
    @willowleaves2008 6 лет назад +121

    Say what you want, but the aesthetics of this movie is pretty good. Especially the design of the 3 wives and the heavy backgrounds. Not bad at all.

    • @CLB872
      @CLB872 6 лет назад +11

      I mean, it is a pretty movie, the problem the two had were the main characters, they weren't bad, just, boring, which can be the worst sin of it. You don't get invested in the characters.
      Music is fun, visuals of the monsters and scenes are cool.
      I feel if the main charscters were a bit more campy it'd be more fun, or at least make them less woosen.

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb 6 лет назад +1

      I think it looks bad. The high contrast makes it look ugly. Look at Coppola's Dracula for this style done right.

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 6 лет назад +1

      The CGI is just bad even for its time.

    • @Peanutbutt101
      @Peanutbutt101 2 года назад

      @@Clay3613 it's actually really good good it's time

  • @superkeaton9912
    @superkeaton9912 6 лет назад +14

    Convinced a group of co-workers to get together, drink, and watch Van Helsing. We had a great time.

  • @Lishadra
    @Lishadra 6 лет назад +27

    The music kicked in and I started bopping my head right away, and then it cut to Rob and Doug doing the exact same thing

  • @MrGBH
    @MrGBH 6 лет назад +81

    "Was Jekyll really evil?"
    Yeah! That was the entire point of the book.

    • @averongodoffire8098
      @averongodoffire8098 3 года назад +10

      The point was there is evil in everyone even in a otherwise respected man of the community
      And how they hide in plain sight
      So yeah, he was evil but it was an interesting evilness

    • @Dim4323
      @Dim4323 3 года назад

      Dr Jekyle and mr hide are the same person.
      Even bbc Jeklye delt it

  • @PhoeniksStorm
    @PhoeniksStorm 6 лет назад +212

    Honestly i prefer the First Viewing videos over Nostalgia Critic videos

    • @gernandthegreat8839
      @gernandthegreat8839 6 лет назад +5

      You and me both

    • @HurricaneDDragon
      @HurricaneDDragon 6 лет назад +4

      PhoeniksoftheStorm Ooooh, what a rebel!

    • @Grenadreams
      @Grenadreams 6 лет назад +17

      I love these because we see the jokes being brought up like the riffs people often do on youtube

    • @Cass99k
      @Cass99k 6 лет назад +3

      sometimes are better

    • @moontowhee
      @moontowhee 6 лет назад +1

      Then you haven't been here sinds the beginning

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga 6 лет назад +279

    How could you possibly make Wolverine going up against the universal monsters not work ???

    • @dreamlandnightmare
      @dreamlandnightmare 6 лет назад +20

      It's the miracle of bad scripting and directing.

    • @seabashboy
      @seabashboy 6 лет назад +4

      That's universal for you, when you want dark and edgy you get the bad scriptwriters and poor directing

    • @tarmaque
      @tarmaque 6 лет назад +8

      How could you possibly make a movie with Kate Beckinsale that I completely wasn't interested in?

    • @andrewortiz6430
      @andrewortiz6430 6 лет назад +4

      Roger Ebert seemed to like the movie he gave it a 3/4 said it was silly but spectacular and fun

    • @RedShirtRemyStarship
      @RedShirtRemyStarship 6 лет назад

      I believe they explained this was Steve Sommers there.

  • @magmablock
    @magmablock 6 лет назад +49

    I saw this movie on TV in a hotel after a 20 mile hike with some friends. Just the stupid awesome movie we needed to unwind.

  • @harmlessratz7151
    @harmlessratz7151 5 лет назад +19

    best looking werewolf/transformation imo, also love how the actor portraying Dracula just lets loose and overact, he clearly enjoy it

  • @ZeroApostle4Ever
    @ZeroApostle4Ever 6 лет назад +26

    Y'all missed an obvious joke opportunity when the Universal logo at the beginning gets set on fire.

  • @TechnocraticDreadnought
    @TechnocraticDreadnought 6 лет назад +33

    @Channel Awesome
    5:35 That is Not a cane. It is a war-hammer, in the form of a hand holding a spike/stake, showing that a good sense of humour existed in the medieval period; it has been produced in real life as a weapon against armoured targets.

    • @0816M3RC
      @0816M3RC 6 лет назад +2

      TechnocraticDreadnought The way he holds makes it look like a cane. Like he is about to go out for a night on the town. xD

    • @calamusgladiofortior2814
      @calamusgladiofortior2814 6 лет назад

      I saw that too. But apparently this movie is supposed to be set in 1887, so more than a little anachronistic for him to be carrying a late-medieval warhammer and a silly repeating crossbow (I know, vampires, but still). A double-barrelled big game rifle would have made his life much easier.

    • @TechnocraticDreadnought
      @TechnocraticDreadnought 6 лет назад +1

      @@calamusgladiofortior2814 or a girardoni air rifle, like the one that that lewis and clark used. it can shoot around several dozen deadly shots with one air tank, and it had amagazine with ca. 27 bullets in the magazine.

    • @calamusgladiofortior2814
      @calamusgladiofortior2814 6 лет назад

      TechnocraticDreadnought the Giarodini air rifles were pretty low velocity, only about as powerful as a modern .22 plinking rifle despite shooting a much bigger slug. Sure a .22 can kill you, but do you want to try stopping a werewolf with it? By comparison, something like a Winchester Model 1886 would give him 9 rounds of .45-70, a full-power military and hunting rifle cartridge. And the French were introducing the first bolt-action, smokeless powder rifle that year. Heck, the Maxim machine gun existed by then. And Carl Benz had already built a gasoline-powered car by 1886. If the Vatican had really wanted to give him a secret, high-tech weapon they could have mounted a machine gun on an early car for him and had the sidekick be his driver...

    • @ZombieWilfred
      @ZombieWilfred 6 лет назад +1

      @@0816M3RC In the movie they show Anna pick it up by the actual handle, which is why Van Hellsing isn't holding it by the handle after taking it from her...

  • @SerenityM16
    @SerenityM16 6 лет назад +14

    “What kind of castle has a bar?!” A GOOD castle! Lol

  • @KombatGod
    @KombatGod 6 лет назад +59

    I hate to disappoint you, Doug, but I'm pretty sure she's saying "Do you like to fly, ANNA?"
    I mean, it's still silly, but it's not a random noise, it's a word.

    • @lego4virgo
      @lego4virgo 6 лет назад +3

      She is, you're right.

    • @Nagarath16
      @Nagarath16 6 лет назад +5

      It's even more disappointing that they both were watching and missed it.

    • @carlotta4th
      @carlotta4th 6 лет назад +2

      It's silly no matter what she's saying, but I'd actually find it more believable as a harpy-esque scream (fits how she looks in that form) than one of Dracula's wives just HAPPENS to know this random woman's name.

    • @0816M3RC
      @0816M3RC 6 лет назад +2

      Mr. Diugh People have different opinions then you. Let it go.

    • @KombatGod
      @KombatGod 6 лет назад +10

      @@carlotta4th she does know her. In that scene later she calls her "princess"

  • @Changeling9000
    @Changeling9000 6 лет назад +108

    This looks like a fun movie to watch.

    • @s36430
      @s36430 6 лет назад +19

      Its not that shitty tbh 6/10

    • @theprophecy11
      @theprophecy11 6 лет назад +27

      I totally advise you to watch this movie.

    • @thechevyferrari9559
      @thechevyferrari9559 6 лет назад +2

      Watch it, know it’ll be a bit disappointing, enjoy the good bits of acting and music.

    • @andrewortiz6430
      @andrewortiz6430 6 лет назад +4

      Roger Ebert gave the movie a 3/4 and said it was silly but spectacular and fun

    • @andrewortiz6430
      @andrewortiz6430 6 лет назад

      @keller blair except I didn't get it from you lol

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 6 лет назад +90

    Stephen Sommers still has a better grasp of the Universal monsters than Tom Cruise ever will

    • @scrrin
      @scrrin 6 лет назад +7

      Tom Cruise didn't write and direct the movie

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb 6 лет назад +6

      Yeah, it's a dumb comment, like saying Matthew McConaughey did a great job directing Interstellar.

    • @alexandergapour1253
      @alexandergapour1253 5 лет назад

      Nolan What are you talking about he made you that precious brendan fraser mummy of course he does

    • @johnweber4577
      @johnweber4577 3 года назад +3

      Actually guys, Tom Cruise apparently forewent some of his usual massive salary in exchange for ridiculous creative control over the project to the point that he had power over director Alex Kurtzman and might have directed a fair amount of it himself. So the OP isn’t completely off base. Lol

  • @ronathan7827
    @ronathan7827 6 лет назад +62

    I don't know why you guys are so bored by this movie. I honestly like it. It's not good, but it's just silly, campy fun. It's not meant to be taken too seriously.
    Also, let's not pretend that the acting in the original Universal Monster movies of the 1920's, '30's, and 40's that you guys seem to idolize was all that much better. Maybe you need to go back and rewatch those without the nostalgia goggles on. If you view Van Helsing as a spiritual successor to those films, you'd realize that the acting and dialogue are pretty on par with the originals.

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb 6 лет назад +5

      The classic Universal horror films are way better than Helsing. They had wit, taste and real atmosphere.

    • @THEremiXFACTOR
      @THEremiXFACTOR 6 лет назад +6

      But the original Universal monster movies were slow-burn, atmospheric and suspenseful. They excelled in creating a creepy atmosphere and were very effective by the standards of the day. Van Helsing is a dumb action movie, with no atmosphere and cartoonish CGI.
      It's like what happened with the Tom Cruise Mummy movie. They don't seem to understand their own movies. The classic monster movies were actually very restrained and definitely weren't action-packed. So I don't know why Universal thinks turning them into effects-laden, brainless summer blockbusters is appropriate.

    • @ronathan7827
      @ronathan7827 6 лет назад +12

      I'm not disagreeing with any of your points about Van Helsing. But the fact of the matter is that there were over 150 Universal Horror movies between 1920 and 1960, and no, most of them were NOT good movies. After all, the studio was churning out horror movies in this period like there were made on an assembly line. How could it POSSIBLY be true that most of them had good "slow-burn, atmosphere, and were suspenseful" when they were being made like a cheap mass produced product? And I mean literally cheap: these things were made on shoestring budgets.
      Here, take a look at this list. It's pretty comprehensive. Sure, there are a few gems in there that are legitimately good films. But the VAST majority of them are schlock that were so forgettable, you probably haven't even heard of most of them, or knew that most of them had ever been made in the first place.
      www.imdb.com/list/ls000493268/

    • @anti-venom2036
      @anti-venom2036 5 лет назад

      Agreed how can you be bored of this movie the designs are awesome and the fight scenes badass dont know what these guys were watching but it weren't van helsing.

    • @Hardcandydandydaddy1
      @Hardcandydandydaddy1 4 года назад

      Ron Yahil it’s good to me

  • @123rockfan
    @123rockfan 6 лет назад +7

    I remember when I was younger I was so impressed with the special effects in the last fight scene that I watched it over and over before going to school in the morning lol

  • @Tjax514
    @Tjax514 6 лет назад +19

    Dracula was literally the best part of this movie. So entertaining and over the top

  • @fireblast8972
    @fireblast8972 6 лет назад +76

    Ok, I don't understand the complaint of unrealistic CGI. It shouldn't matter if it's real or not, what matters is that it's fun to look at

    • @DragonslayerProd
      @DragonslayerProd 6 лет назад +25

      Imagine him watching the end of Toy Story 3 when they're going into the incinerator "Oh yeah, wow, those toys are so real. I totally imagine this is actually happening."

    • @therandomartist3201
      @therandomartist3201 6 лет назад +6

      I kinda agree except when in a movie there’s so much CGI that it should be all CGI and not parts live action, it’s like having majority of the movie drawn in the old fashion but then have live action characters suddenly in it.

    • @juantheenchilada4528
      @juantheenchilada4528 6 лет назад +9

      The thing with the unrealistic CGI is that it doesn't look as good as real stuff, like compare the OG Jurassic Park to Jurassic World. One had dinosaurs crafted by man while the other had them made by a computer and visually the OG jurassic park looks better because it DOES look real not fake

    • @NathanSherwood114
      @NathanSherwood114 6 лет назад +4

      @@juantheenchilada4528 damn we have computers capable of creating all the models and textures and rigging from scratch all on their own?
      I had no idea

    • @thehorrorhound6575
      @thehorrorhound6575 6 лет назад +7

      Joe Scirrotto the original nightmare on elm street the effect of Freddy coming out of the wall and then disappearing was created by cutting a hole in the wall covering it with plastic wrap and a white sheet that was in 1984. And it looked REAL AF. The remake in 2010 used cgi. And it looked fake and cheep as fuck. And probably cost a ton more to make. Makes you wonder why use cgi if you don’t need it

  • @camilogarciaylasaari1857
    @camilogarciaylasaari1857 5 лет назад +8

    I don't know why but Rob dramatically yelling BOOBERRY is hilarious to me

  • @Darek_B52
    @Darek_B52 6 лет назад +14

    You guys keep skipping over the fact that the princess and her family couldn't get into heaven until dracula was killed. Thats why the ending is bittersweet.

    • @0816M3RC
      @0816M3RC 3 года назад +3

      Even though that doesn't make much sense and is a severely fucked up thing to do to your descendants.

    • @Darek_B52
      @Darek_B52 3 года назад

      @@0816M3RC Did they explain how it came to be? or are you just assuming they did it on purpose?

    • @0816M3RC
      @0816M3RC 3 года назад +1

      @@Darek_B52 From the wikipedia plot synopsis of Van Helsing:
      "At the Order's Vatican City headquarters, Cardinal Jinette gives Van Helsing a mission: Go to Transylvania, destroy Dracula and protect the two survivors of an ancient Romanian family, the Valerious. Their ancestor vowed that his descendants would kill Dracula, or spend eternity in Purgatory."
      So it sounds like the ancestor cursed his family into having to kill Dracula.
      Which is pretty messed up.
      EDIT: Apparently there is two versions of the Valerious Family's predicament regarding the salvation of their souls.
      From a citation on the wiki page regarding this:
      "The film does not remark on or explain the fact that the Cardinal and Carl give very different descriptions of Anna's family's predicament. The Cardinal says that her ancestor gambled with his family's salvation, staking their places in Heaven on their ability to kill Dracula. Carl says that Valerious was offered a very special benefit, a spiritual get-out-of-jail-free card: Kill Dracula, and the whole family gets to go to Heaven, without having to stop in Purgatory."

  • @seannotshawn3521
    @seannotshawn3521 6 лет назад +16

    Van Hellsing was like if you took the script for X2 and Underworld and shuffled them together like a pack of cards and then tried to make sense of the results.

  • @grimgor07
    @grimgor07 6 лет назад +23

    You both should take a look of "Hazbin Hotel". It's an upcoming 2019 comedy/musical adult animated series with its own style and very good animations.

    • @mckenzie.latham91
      @mckenzie.latham91 6 лет назад +2

      I know the Viziepop the head animator/creator of the show's work as a animation class of mine used her animation thesis "Timber" as a teaching tool.

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga 6 лет назад +267

    Van helsing , Yet another one of universal's failed attempts to create a monster cinematic universe.

    • @domidium
      @domidium 6 лет назад +25

      Maybe, but its a better crossover then we're getting now.

    • @LegendPurpleDragon152
      @LegendPurpleDragon152 6 лет назад +26

      Nathaniel Foga Least this one had effort behind it

    • @KeybladeMasterAndy
      @KeybladeMasterAndy 6 лет назад +20

      This one didn't sequel-bait for half its runtime.

    • @galahad5658
      @galahad5658 6 лет назад +7

      It had an animated prequel that wasn't half bad.

    • @skylx0812
      @skylx0812 6 лет назад +2

      The leads are primarily Australian with a couple of Brits. And not a single Cruise or Brendan Fraser. So this isn't North America's fault. ....for once

  • @hunterrobinson2360
    @hunterrobinson2360 6 лет назад +21

    I actually liked this movie.

    • @jamiemarshall6832
      @jamiemarshall6832 4 года назад +1

      Fun story, so I was meant to watch this and Beowulf in year 7, I didnt watch either, two reasons, the volume was far too loud for me and would hurt my ears, and two, I wasnt a big movie fan. So instead I would be in a different room doing something else, a few years ago I watched both movies, because I wanted to see what they were like. I didnt mind Beowulf, but I enjoyed this one a little more. I dont think it's perfect but I do like it.

  • @LowBudget2018
    @LowBudget2018 6 лет назад +8

    This is my favorite First Viewing from you guys. I can watch it over and over and it's still hilarious. Really captures the fun of watching a bad movie with friends.

  • @TheKingRobot
    @TheKingRobot 6 лет назад +8

    Please don't criticize me too much! But....The KING is back!

  • @proboy2372
    @proboy2372 5 лет назад +5

    Wife: Have you no heart?!
    Dracula: Noooo!!!
    Classic lol

  • @wingedmirage4226
    @wingedmirage4226 6 лет назад +22

    Speaking of mindless monster killing, you should do Hansel and Gretel Witch Hunters :P

  • @maiamaola6143
    @maiamaola6143 5 лет назад +8

    This film is a guilty pleasure for me. I love the vampires and Dracula's actor. They are hilarious. And Alan Silvestri's score is badass.

  • @KatieVanHelsing
    @KatieVanHelsing 6 лет назад +4

    “They do have a better relationship than him and the woman (Anna).”
    Oh... wait till I show you my fanfic collection.

  • @dragonheart2272
    @dragonheart2272 6 лет назад +4

    This is one of those movies that I still love just as much as an adult as when I was a kid. I don't take it seriously, but I still have fun with it.

  • @plutossky7534
    @plutossky7534 4 года назад +6

    Damn now I want a romance between Dracula and Van Helsing WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

  • @noah1cares
    @noah1cares 6 лет назад +5

    This is honestly one of the few childhood movies I get nostalgic for. As a kid this movie was never boring to me. I used to watch it so many times that I would recite the dialogue. This movie got me into Universal Monsters. All my friends loved it as well and whenever we had sleepovers we would watch it. I saw it when it came out on DVD and I never knew that it wasn't received well. I always wished this movie got a sequel. Its one of my childhood wishes that never happened. Sure this movie sucks but its just fun as hell. Cool action sequences and Hugh Jackman's charm carries the movie. I just have a blast with it, even if it kinda does get boring now that I'm an adult. It's also crazy to me that the dude who made the Brendan Frasier Mummy movies made this. If this was up to the standards of the first Mummy it would be a different story for this movie.

  • @MythicSuns
    @MythicSuns 6 лет назад +1

    4:56 I see those clothes and all that springs to mind is ♬I'm the hitcher, lemme put ya in the picture, creepin in ya room in the dead of night with my solo polo vision (that's right)♬

  • @rebajoe
    @rebajoe 6 лет назад +6

    7:09 I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed.

  • @louisduarte8763
    @louisduarte8763 6 лет назад +8

    "What kind of castle has a bar?" I would think it's every castle, or to be fancy, it's a wine cellar.
    Oh, and pretty please review Blade 2 and Blade Trinity.

    • @ninjabluefyre3815
      @ninjabluefyre3815 5 лет назад

      I said "The best ones! The castle I wanna live in!"

    • @randalgraves6979
      @randalgraves6979 3 года назад

      😐 they filmed in a house basement with a bar in the Wicker Man review.

  • @humm96
    @humm96 6 лет назад +32

    This film is great though! And as for “oh no a monster that isn’t really there!” What did you expect? An actual werewolf?
    Also skipped over some of the really good bits, like the mirror shot at Dracula’s ball showing only Anna
    This film is great, I suggest doing the opposite of what they said and watch it

    • @JageshemashFTW
      @JageshemashFTW 5 лет назад +2

      Ollie Humm
      It’s more the fact that Doug just has really high expectations for CGI. He’s of the ‘Do it right, or don’t do it at all’ mindset.

  • @siphons92
    @siphons92 6 лет назад +12

    The Red Headed vampire was the only reason I needed to watch this movie lol

    • @skyluc77
      @skyluc77 6 лет назад +3

      Elena Anaya, also dr Poison in WW

    • @siphons92
      @siphons92 6 лет назад +5

      @@skyluc77 She was Doc Poison in WW?! No fuckin way lol

    • @skyluc77
      @skyluc77 6 лет назад +1

      Yes, my reaction exactly when I found out

  • @fairytailgirl123
    @fairytailgirl123 6 лет назад +56

    I think she says anna at the end 4:23

    • @sirensong7956
      @sirensong7956 6 лет назад +3

      If she did say anna it doesn't sound like it.

    • @genomcyber7731
      @genomcyber7731 6 лет назад

      Yes she does say that.

    • @FarseerOfCearath
      @FarseerOfCearath 6 лет назад +4

      AAANNAAAAAAAAAA!

    • @MandleRoss
      @MandleRoss 6 лет назад +3

      Yeah, she says "Aaaanna". They even made a big joke about the "Aaaaaaa" in the NC review and I'm sitting there thinking "But she said "Aaaanna", not "Aaaaaaaaa". Obviously "Aaaaaaaaaa" is more hilarious but it's not what she said."

    • @RedaFox1
      @RedaFox1 6 лет назад +2

      I hear Anna too..but when I was watching the movie with subtitles. it just said "Would you like to fly?"

  • @thetommytrontommyrose6497
    @thetommytrontommyrose6497 6 лет назад +2

    11:21 “Does this bother you? I’m not touching you!!!”
    XD

  • @Achillez098
    @Achillez098 6 лет назад +26

    According to RUclips, this video has NO VIEWS, and there are 0 likes and 0 dislikes.
    But the comments section is full. WHAT SORCERY IS THIS??!!!

    • @DragonslayerProd
      @DragonslayerProd 6 лет назад +4

      Seriously? Are we still doing "WHY DOES THIS VIDEO HAVE 0 VIEWS AND A MILLION COMMANEYTS>!?" in 2018?

    • @Targisvear
      @Targisvear 6 лет назад

      Use refresh?

    • @TheOneLichemperor
      @TheOneLichemperor 6 лет назад +1

      *Hit F5*

    • @TheRealBot001
      @TheRealBot001 6 лет назад +1

      Well youtube doesn't count the view until the person clicks off the video, now you know.

    • @meamishere1166
      @meamishere1166 6 лет назад

      @@TheRealBot001
      And knowing is half the battle.

  • @ntcnetwork9934
    @ntcnetwork9934 4 года назад +2

    It’s weird that this movie is so colorless when Sommers’ other Universal Monster movie, The Mummy, was so beautiful!

  • @BigJackFilms
    @BigJackFilms 6 лет назад +5

    Actually it was No Hearts Castle in the original Care Bears series, not Cold Heart and they actually DID meet a Dracula esc character named Dr. Fright, an ally to No Heart.

    • @jugsyarts
      @jugsyarts 5 лет назад

      Before the series, there was a special called The Care Bears in the Land Without Feelings that had a villain called Cold Heart. That's what Critic was refrencing

  • @nicole.z.624
    @nicole.z.624 6 лет назад +2

    “That wonderful night in Barcelona” I’m dead😂

  • @darimamitypova6964
    @darimamitypova6964 11 месяцев назад +3

    I hate how people shitting this movie calling it stupid trash. The movie is a masterpiece! It's spectacle, over the top, with amazing gothic visuals, consistent story with tragedy in it, mindblowing steampunk weapon design, great actors and beautiful-beautiful music! Even cheesiness works for film. It reminds me greek tragedy in theatre. You have to be indulgent to some movie cliche to get the full joy. I think Van Helsing is one of the greatest dark-fantasy movies of all time.

  • @moviemaniac9034
    @moviemaniac9034 5 лет назад +1

    After hearing Doug make that joke about Frankenstein's monster saying, "The sea is calling to me," now I'm just thinking about the monster singing, "How Far I'll Go".

  • @olessiatchijova8605
    @olessiatchijova8605 6 лет назад +3

    Nitpick, But Origins came out 5 years after Van Helsing did. This was around the same time as X2, which is why Hugh does still have a lot of similar facial expressions and mannerisms as Wolverine, but not (if that makes any sense) this movie is a guilty pleasure for me. Hugh’s in it and that brightens up my day a little.

  • @Talesfromtheshelf
    @Talesfromtheshelf 5 лет назад +4

    Stephen Sommers is criminally underrated

  • @mariah1skw2
    @mariah1skw2 6 лет назад +2

    You can't deny what an excellent Dracula that is

  • @heresfrankbetches921
    @heresfrankbetches921 6 лет назад +5

    About your words about the Dracula's party:
    The intention was to make the party look HUMAN for Van Helsing. So no blood drinking from the fountains was intended

  • @lightningrodstudios2441
    @lightningrodstudios2441 2 года назад +4

    Doug throughout this entire movie: Oh yeah he’s so really there oh yeah that’s so totally happening man this looks so real 🙄
    Doug watching the same thing happen with the MCU: I gotta be honest, the effects are impressive

    • @thelamergamer1894
      @thelamergamer1894 4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, I hate the shameless double standard.

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro 6 лет назад +1

    the chemistry between Van Helsing and Drac was too funny and I loved that fish face joke

  • @kevinboudreaux7860
    @kevinboudreaux7860 4 года назад +4

    this one is a guilty pleasure for me. I loved the guy who played Dracula. he had a lot of fun energy for the role. The werewolves were awesome! id totally go for a movie just about a few of those!

  • @sebastianemond5313
    @sebastianemond5313 6 лет назад +1

    8:41 Frankenstein Monster: "Burn, Jackman! I will stop you from making the London Assignment prequel!"

  • @LightningNerd
    @LightningNerd 6 лет назад +10

    For some reason, I actually really love this movie. It's not phenomenal, but I think the style and action make up for some of the bad writing and effects.

  • @BobMcBobJr
    @BobMcBobJr 6 лет назад +2

    They could have gone with the classic
    "You have been disarmed, surrender"
    Gets arm chopped off
    "And, now you have"

  • @robertparker6280
    @robertparker6280 4 года назад +1

    5:04 Ok I have to admit Dracula (or whatever the Vamp's name is) waking up from is coffin that effect was pretty cool.

  • @darkieanimations3640
    @darkieanimations3640 5 лет назад +9

    7:19
    ANOTHER GAY SHIP TO ADD TO THE PILE
    .....
    ....
    ..
    .
    I ship it thx guys

  • @kat8295
    @kat8295 4 года назад +1

    Just found out Dracula is played by the same actor who was the Duke in Moulin Rouge. MIND. BLOWN.

  • @ryanjodonoghue9340
    @ryanjodonoghue9340 6 лет назад +16

    I'll Choose My Own Destiny, FIGHT

    • @keafoleafo8368
      @keafoleafo8368 6 лет назад

      Pick a destiny

    • @Sonichero151
      @Sonichero151 6 лет назад

      Do you believe in Destiny?
      .....if you got that reference...... I am so fucking sorry the wounds have not healed for me either

  • @ButrzV2
    @ButrzV2 5 лет назад +1

    Every time i watch these First Viewings i just realize u guys need ur own Mystery Science Theater 3000

  • @Grenadreams
    @Grenadreams 6 лет назад +5

    When I saw this when I was younger, i actually liked the idea of all these horror monsters coming together in a sort of marvel cinematic universe.. but looking at it now, i feel like this was taken in the wrong direction.

  • @yenkojeff8725
    @yenkojeff8725 6 лет назад +3

    This movie is definitely a guilty pleasure and i now have the biggest crush on Kate Beckinsale because of this and Underworld.

  • @TheOneLichemperor
    @TheOneLichemperor 6 лет назад +11

    Whilst their criticism is just - I still adore this movie.
    I particularly like Roxburgh's Dracula...
    .. and the soundtrack... the soundtrack is indeed good.

  • @MrKaywyn
    @MrKaywyn 5 лет назад +2

    The Care Bears Meet Dracula sounds truly excellent.

  • @TheTitandog70
    @TheTitandog70 6 лет назад +2

    Love the First Viewing. Enjoy watching you unfiltered reactions to movies. When comes to Van Hellsing the movie , it can be some up as a lot of style but little substance in it. It is enjoyable movie...but best to be viewed with buddies and some brews.
    Keep up the great work

  • @ryanelliott1907
    @ryanelliott1907 4 года назад +1

    At 4:24 when the vampire says, "Do you like to fly" she actually says Anna. She doesnt screech. Just thought i would point that out.

  • @Gusterson98
    @Gusterson98 6 лет назад +7

    11:49 that part made me laugh too hard.

  • @briandaaranda9735
    @briandaaranda9735 6 лет назад +7

    I know it's a "bad movie" but it's legitimately entertaining, I think. It knew it was silly, it knew it was an excuse to eat popcorn, and it had fun with it. IDK, I legit like this movie.

    • @SynthApprentice
      @SynthApprentice 6 лет назад

      I recently watched it for the first time, and this is pretty much how I see it. I was a bit surprised, really, because I was kinda expecting something genuinely bad.

  • @pizzaman1891
    @pizzaman1891 6 лет назад +6

    This along with the mummy is my guilty pleasure

  • @RedWolf-7203
    @RedWolf-7203 2 года назад

    I have such a deep connection to this movie, my grandpa and me watched this and Peterjackson King Kong over and over had the discs and have such good chats while watching them, like how you two are doing its such good memories

  • @scottbuckley823
    @scottbuckley823 6 лет назад +11

    A reason i like this movie, the mummy, league of extraoridinary gentlemen and even fantastic 4 2005 was that this movies used cgi only when needed i miss movies that used practical sets, effects and make up with cgi only as a last resort anyone know what i mean? like the lost world they used dinosaurs there on set while in jurrassic world they over did the cgi. true this movie may have dated and misused cgi but great pratical effects

  • @Rosh4D
    @Rosh4D 2 года назад +2

    10:05 he does have a name
    It's Adam .

  • @joshuaclayburn8350
    @joshuaclayburn8350 6 лет назад +5

    These vids might be my favorites now.

  • @Davidofthelost
    @Davidofthelost 6 лет назад +3

    I loved this movie as a kid, still do. Cgi might not hold up now. But I enjoy it.

  • @BlueWoWTaylan
    @BlueWoWTaylan 6 лет назад +3

    Wait, if Van Helsing was Gabriel....and Dracula was son of Lucifer....doesn't that make them Uncle and nephew ?

  • @Brogox
    @Brogox 6 лет назад

    Thank you for making these First Viewing videos. It's like alternate version for Nostalgia Critic video.

  • @thomasferraro479
    @thomasferraro479 6 лет назад +22

    All this did is make me wanna watch it again, this movie is awesome

  • @bobo577
    @bobo577 7 дней назад

    You guys inspired me to look for that song where Doug was bopping his head. It is a banging tune.

  • @bikosaurusrex2264
    @bikosaurusrex2264 6 лет назад +4

    I love Channel Awesome, but I think this review is kinda unfair considering this film came out more than 14 years ago (4 years before iorn man). Especially when compared to mummy 2018, this movie is a gem.

    • @xBloodxFangx
      @xBloodxFangx 5 лет назад

      @casey they didnt mean the brendan fraser movie, they meant the horrible tom cruise one which didn't even try to have practical effects.

  • @Symbolic-Sky
    @Symbolic-Sky 4 года назад +1

    The movie may be wierd but my uncle Rodger loved it so much I sorta grew a soft spot for it.

  • @kevintravers3988
    @kevintravers3988 3 года назад +3

    I honestly really like this movie. I find it so fun. Dumb, but fun.

  • @bertimusprime7900
    @bertimusprime7900 6 лет назад +1

    For the love of Lugosi, she’s saying “do you like to fly, Anna?!” She’s not just shrieking.

  • @majestydream5
    @majestydream5 6 лет назад +10

    The castlevania series is a better vampire hunter show

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb 6 лет назад

      Hellsing is a much better vampire hunting show.