I actually got this right the first time I played P5 by just being a smartass. To save you guys the trouble, here are the choices right after Sae attempts to leave the room without you giving up your team mates. 1. I want to make a deal 2. The phone 3. Show it to the culprit 4. Not a team mate Choose these 4 choices, and you're on your way to avoiding death.
"Your time will be cut short." *6 months later* Sae: And what happened after that? Protagonist: ...and then last Thursday, I ate a cheeseburger larger than my head.
Protag: " I actually ate three, I'm pretty sure I have diab-" Sae: "CAN WE PLEASE GET BACK TO THE PHANTOM THIEVES?" Protag: "BITCH LEMME FINISH MY STORY."
@@ArtiDaFool Joker: Every word I say is very important to the context. Without that cheeseburger I would not have gained the guts to ask Makoto out which is integral to getting the exp needed for my persona to get strong enough through fusion to defeat the palace! Sae: Makoto... you mean my sister? Joker: (Shit!) Mako- Ahhh noo. No. Not your sister. Makoto... Smith?
Sae thinks she's built up a steady case, but it doesn't hold water. The leader was caught at a casino, which doesn't exist once you leave the world, he was caught with weapons which are really just toys once you get back to the real world. Komoshida never reported anything stolen, Madarame couldn't report anything stolen because it was already stolen property, Kaneshiro was already a criminal, Medjed was threatening the whole of Japan, there was no real evidence that they killed Okumura, and lets not forget the fact that the Mental Shutdown cases started TWO years before the game began. Two years before the leader of the Phantom Thieves even arrived. So there are many holes on where she wants to step.
Also, the police officially don’t care if criminals run loose as long as they and only they are seen as heroes. Vigilantes are basically freelance policemen who break the rules sometimes to keep peace; the Phantom Thieves accurately fit the vigilante description. True, they were forcing change, but A) it was only on bad people and B) they were bringing light to crimes gone unpunished for too long. After watching gameplay of this game (I don’t have a PS4 lol), if people like the Phantom Thieves ever exist in real life, I’m supporting them all the way.
Shaney Zamora That’s all true, there’s many holes in Sae’s prosecution that doesn’t hold up. But didn’t you hear everyone beforehand? They don’t give a shit if they have evidence or a strong or weak case, they’re going to wring a confession out of anyone and get them sent to jail no matter the cost. Why do you think they were using physical violence and drugs to try and beat a confession out of Joker rather than take him to court and use their so-called “case” to find him guilty?
"Your time will be cut short. His methods are unknown, so it might be dangerous to even speak with him for that long." *Joker literally tells all of the cases from Kamoshida, up to Sae*
Tbf, interrogations often take a few days, they might be referring to how this is the only day she can speak with him, until they have to close and lock up the building. Meaning that the other days she was probably promised were cut off so they can get him in the judicial system quicker. In other words, they’re looking to dispose of him faster then they are allowed to.
Sae: WHY WON'T YOU TALK ABOUT THEM!? Joker: *gets on top of the table* I AIN'T NO SNITCH, I GIVE NO SHITS!!! MY LIFE IS FORFEIT, BUT I WILL NOT SNITCH!!
I died cause in the velvet room the twins said to grasp the truth so and since sae is a confindent i thought telling the truth to her is the way to go Well i never felt so dump Afterwards
Actually if you pick the "Not Akechi" option, Sae questions why you said him specifically before getting a look of realization as she pieces together what you mean. Remember the question she asks is "Was he a part of your group as well?" All the answers except that second one say he wasn't with you which implies loyalty to him. But the second one is worded as such to have an underlying meaning. It's actually fascinating writing by Atlus at this scene.
Persona 4 is probably the hardest one to get to the true ending without cheating on the internet: First, you need to choose all the correct dialogues in the scenario where you must calm your friends Then, you must figure out who the killer is And finally, and the most bizarre of all, you must talk to a gas attendent you never even gave a thought about on the LAST DAY of the game after you thought you’re done with everything.
Tbf the gas station attendant was really suspicious af when they first appeared in the intro, but that was so long ago and the game spent dozens of hours trying to get you focused on something else so it's a pretty cheap reveal...I doubt most people even noticed they only appeared on rainy days.
Not to mention the good ending is already a pretty satisfying conclusion: caught the culprit and saved the town. Players who don’t know about the true ending wouldn’t even think about looking for it
the attendant isnt even the worst part since at that point in the game you already were told by the dojimas about the gas station attentand, the worst part is figuring out that you HAVE to choose not to go home after saying your goodbyes and then going back to the junes food court since at that point in the game you think that everything is done and theres nothing else to do (at least in P4G) (yes, im answering to a two year old comment)
@@YORCHspartan117 np replying to.a 2 year old comment since P4 came out on steam recently and everyone is remembering the true ending route challenge...not to mention you have to check the elevator TWICE and the game will fool you with the "you have no business here" line
I must confess.. I had it wrong the first time, and I truly felt ashamed. I was planing on saying "NO", but then I thought about how Sae cheats (and how apparently her shadow didn't change her ways), so I stupidly trusted her and snitched against my intuition. But, as soon as the bad ending started playing, I restarted the game.. They're right: your gut feeling IS right most of the time.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one would made this mistake. I thought about saying 'no' also then changed my mind. I kinda thought she already knew by the way her social link was playing out and figured if I wasn't fully honest with her I'd be condradicting myself and she wouldn't believe me. But once I saw that was wrong I restarted before the bad end could finish. Felt like such an idiot, I wasn't trying to purposely sell out my friends😓
Honestly, even playing blind if you chose the sell your friends out option theres another prompt saying "Is this really the right choice?" Unless you're completely clueless or you're doing it on purpose its pretty difficult to get the bad ending
I just said the only choice that matters is if you choose to sell out your friends or not. (with sae niijima) Other choices are just replys which only changes one line
basically be a decent human being lol if you snitched, you'd be no better than the corrupt adults in the game also, it doesn't matter, but i didn't rat out my confidants either and it felt good lol I think not snitching gives Joker enough time to remember the whole plan
Hey! For those of you who see the scene after this, no spoilers of course, but I freaked out thinking I had failed lol. Just let it roll. It’s not what you think!
Wait, people actually messed up here? Cause i could have sworn if you try to answer wrong the game stops you and says," hmm I dont think you should say that, you sure you wanna say that?"
It does. Both here and later for the choice between good/true ending, if you choose wrong the game asks you if you are certain about your decision. I honestly don't understand how someone can get it wrong.
The bad ending is really possible to be obtained in a blind run. One can simply go with this deal Sae gave to you and confess, and it's a valid choice from people who simply cannot lie. However, in police interrogations when you're busted, I learned that confessing the truth is exactly what the prosecutors wanted and confessing will end the interrogation right here and there and you will be charged. Nowhere to run. Well, what Sae said would lighten your sentence, yes, but at what cost...? Everyone involved with the crime will get caught too. That's how police cracks down on drug trafficking cases in real life! "Backbone" here means integrity. And police interrogations are meant to crumble that integrity through various mean, whether it through pressure, or understanding. Sae has overestimated your integrity the moment you decide to confess everyone who is involved. You basically... Give up everything. By choosing this option you have been honest for the wrong reasons. You sell out your friends for your own sake.
How I wanted it to go down: Joker: You know your sister, Makoto? Sae: What about her? Joker: *Leans in closer with a whisper* She calls me daddy too... Sae: *Lunges at Joker and beats him up far more than the cops did at the start*
It was weird that they didn't mention Akechi saying something like "seems like everyone's here" during the takoyaki scene. That line was more subtle than they pancakes scene tho, but strange that they didn't bring it up.
There's something I don't get: Hasn't the main character pretty much told her the entire story at this point? Why is revealing your accomplices even a choice then? Like, they even specifically talked about Makoto at one point and I don't imagine a way to tell the story without revealing people...
Evil Ryu he probably used their code names but mentions certain people that helped them and made team mates look like they accidentally helped the thieves. For example for Makoto he could have said that all she did was help a tiny bit without knowing.
Blake chandler well I've recently been replaying the game and he refers to makoto as student council president because when it cuts to the interrogation sae goes "student council president...? Makoto was involved with this?"
remember how he "seems to forget something important" then remembers it, but sae does not react as if she heard him? He tells her a "cut version" of the story while he himself remembers it fully.
She goes from trying to kill you in the medaverse to being the key to saving your life. Sae is an MVP but Futaba is the real hero for making this plan work.
Short answer to video don't rat out your friends 😂 a wise pervert once said those who break the rules are scum ....but those who abandon their friends are worse then scum
When Sae ask if Goro Akechi was a Phantom Thieve say “NOT Akechi” Then Sae will say “So Goro Akechi wasn’t one of you” Then when Sae is asking about who the true culprit is tell her “NOT a teammate” 😏
What I don't understand is why we can't say it was him... Like seriously the dude was never part of a member and he only wanted revenge. I personally would have confessed not snitch but confess the hell out of him knowing he is a freaking murderer. I am not there in the game yet so it's unclear to me if it's just a suspicious or they know it by fact. If is a suspicious then it's considered snitch but if you know by a fact he's the traitor. What's wrong pointing the finger to the right person behind the demise of your entire friends?
@@albertleslieurena2766I think because they wanted proofs against Akechi and a way to get to Shido first. Remember that Akechi was used as a scapegoat for Shido
Thank you soooooo much! I was thinking about just doing it myself (which would have led to the bad ending) and if it weren’t for this video I’d pretty much be in a terrible position right now! So thank you!
Pretty much don’t sell your friends out (Phantom Thieves AND other confidants alike) and use what you learned about Sae in her Palace to make it out alive. Would’ve loved that advice on my very first play through, but that’s what New Game + is for, right?
I actually failed this and died because I assumed that Akira had already told Sae most of everything anyway, considering how the entire game up until this point was a flashback. She was even one of your confidants, and you had just beaten her palace. I thought that there was a twist, like she was going to secretly help you escape if you gave up your friends, showing her that you trusted her. Basically, I over thought it, and I died. Kinda crushed me to be honest. Loaded up my save and continued onward like nothing ever happened. Still wish I would've chosen right though...
WatchingMaster 950 I didn't understand what I did i was like she already fucking knows o already snitch basically the entire game I just have to help her then she'll sneak out I'm an idiot
Same here, man.. I wanted to say NO, but started overthinking shit (Sae's cheating nature, as well as that I've already shared my story about my comrades earlier in the game to her). I did the same thing; restarted the game as soon as I saw the credits. I developed a newfound respect for my/Akira's friends, though.
Well sir you have no reason to feel bad because you also had a geninue way of thinking how things might have gotten. The games just did a plot twist nothing wrong with that. Obviously this game encourages relationship so the higher it is the more we feel at ease being with that person. Works in real life as well and probably in real life it might have worked somehow similar to how you might have imagined it
akechi with white gloves in the anime cutscene: YA DUN F*CKED UP BOI! akechi with black gloves in the anime cutscene: (in sae's mind) YA DUN F*CKED UP BOI!
How to get good endings P3: Don't be an idiot lol P4: Carefully plan your time and select through specific choices even after you think everything is over P5: Don't be an idiot lol
Gaurd:"Your time will be cut short" Sae:"I understand" Minutes later Joker: and then your sister riped a mask off of her face summoning a motorbike Sae:...
Oh my god . I can’t believe that people could spend hours playing this just so that they die because of these few choices . Can you imagine their reaction if they snitched and died and they thought that was the end then looked it up and found out that they lost because they snitched ?
I can see sae being like.. HOW IS YOUR HAIR SO SILKY AND SMOOTH WITH A SHINING TEXTURE, YOU MUST HAVE A HAIR STYLIST FIXING YOUR HAIR WHILE YOUR DOING WHAT YOU DO. dundun dundun i am thou. ETC
Went in blind, and i think i only slipped up near the end. I had read something wrong, and thought Sae was on our side, when she was still in questioning mode. Fun fact; the game will slap you in the face for choosing the wrong answer, so you have to deliberately go for the bad end.
*Sae slams table* 28 STAB WOUNDS!!! Lol just wanted to add that 😂 everytime she slammed the table it reminded me of the interrogation in Detroit becomes human. Also, thanks so much for this video, I watched it before I went ahead with this and selected similar choices. I was an idiot and I thought Sae would’ve helped Joker if I sold out my friends. I’ve seen the bad ending and it looks so depressing 😭 thank god I had 3 saves.
When I chose not to rat out my brus, I thought I got the bad ending when Joker died, and I was even more confused when Ryuji deviously smiled in the animated cutsene.
Someone remind me of the crazy plan this all went through First of all, the group suspected Akechi from the start when they heard him remark something about pancakes being said when Morgana was the only one saying anything (I noticed this and thought this meant he’d become a Thief along with/over Makoto, look how wrong I was) proving he had been to the Metaverse beforehand. After accepting his deal, they planned out everything to happen after Sae got her calling card. They’d steal the treasure as normal, but the actual treasure was replaced by an empty briefcase beforehand to trick Akechi into thinking it was the real thing. Then they knew somehow that Akechi would bring in the police to the Metaverse to catch Joker/the entire crew, so they acted surprised when they saw the army of officers when they in fact had planned out the next bit of text wall, to happen after Joker was caught. So there was a secret cognitive interrogation room and a real room, each with their own copies of Joker inside, because the Thieves somehow figured *that* out too. Sae interrogates the real Joker, and Akechi is tricked into killing the cognitive Joker so that everyone thinks he’s dead. The only thing that could ruin the entire plan is Sae not being convinced, so Joker has to convince Sae that he’s telling the truth and he’s not bad (if he doesn’t, bad ending, if he does, good ending), then tip her off to show Akechi the phone to transport him into the Metaverse so the real Joker wouldn’t die. And *then* after all of this the one person to smuggle Joker out is Sae after she’s convinced, to expose Akechi to the thieves and finally figure out who was behind everything. AND REMEMBER THAT THE THIEVES ARE A BUNCH OF HIGH SCHOOLERS AND AN ANTHROPOMORPHIC CAT, HOW THE HECK DID THEY THINK OF ALL OF THIS JVJKSLDCKJDDNCJCJANSMD
Well, necessity is the mother of invention. Once that slip was caught, they needed to make sure Goro Akechi was a completely known quantity. Hence, the wiretap. And once that wiretap bore fruit (the plot to kill the Theives) plans started getting formulated to work around that. The thing with the duplicate Joker was to get the copy into a place where Akechi would take the bait, tying together the thing about places unrelated to the Shadow's Palace matching how they appeared in reality (How Joker and Ryuji stumbled into this whole mess to begin with) and the thing about how non-threats don't get costumes (as seen in Futaba's Palace). As for how they figured all that shit out, they have a Morgana, a Makoto, and a Futaba. The heists can get pretty impressive with that caliber of tool at their disposal.
I love this was on my recommendation the moment I got this wrong. To be completely honest, I was sick at the time while doing this. I didn't even understand how bad this really is. It, just makes me feel like a garbage person for getting this bad ending. I betrayed my collaborators first. It is such a bad feeling to just, do that. It kinda makes me wonder if I am a bad person or not. Either way, thank you for posting this for the people who need it.
@@X1erra I don't think they betrayed me, I feel like it was more like me betraying them. But if you meant something else then I apologize for not understanding. Edit: I honestly had no intention on ratting out either. Looking back at it now, I seriously question how one can mess this up. To this day I still think that I'm an awful person for choosing this. I just wasn't thinking at all at the time.
The fuzzy effects that happen afterwards; the one where she showed the phone to Akechi, is them both transferring to Sae's Palace unconciously. When she picks up the ringing phone after some time, the same effect happens again, and both are transferred back to the real world. She then warns the same guard that was shot in her palace to go into hiding. Basically that guard never gets shot in the end... And so are you.
me: *accidentally misses a button press and makes the wrong choice* game: boi u sure u want dat, it's like, u rat out ur friends me: eh okay also me: *sees bad ending* also me: *totally selfashamed* also me: ok i made da wrong choice cuz of a button press absent, let's forget it ever happened also me: *will probably never forget because he has such practice in other games* [I mean accidentally getting a bad ending instead of a good one for stupid reasons like this / bad choices] *but his heart is cleaner now cuz he saw dat bad ending*
When she said she would lighten the sentence if we rat out our friends , I was like BAITCH I WOULD RATHER DIE THAN RAT OUT MY FRIENDS also what happens when you rat out your friends?
well, basically you won't get to give your phone which is essential to luring the traitor into shooting your cognitive self and not you. If you rat them out immediately, she'll just finish the interrogtion without further ado so that the traitor gets a clear shot at you.
In the true ending, whatever happened to Joker in the present day? Was he placed in jail? Free to go? Or did he escaped from the police department? I don't have the game and don't have time to watch all the walkthrough videos
I almost snitched because she kept telling me it was the only way out, but when the game asked ARE YOU SURE YOU WANNA DO THAT, YOU FREAKIN' MORON? I realized I wasn't supposed to, lol. In hindsight it was a pretty stupid idea since all Sae ever promised me was to maybe get me out of the death penalty.
This video seems to have confused the majority of people. If you're playing this and decide to sell out your friends then what do you expect? Plus the game basically warns you if you try to do it and it's so blatantly obvious no one should ever accidentally get this.
CK TV same. I don't understand why you would snitch on your friends. I suspected Sae was using a tactical manuver by being friendly so she could trick the MC into snitching.
Aye. Y'all need to watch or read a documentary about police interrogations. You'll understand the tactics they use to drive you into confessing and bargaining a deal is but one of the ways. By confessing, you have been played right into their hands, the police have found their evidence to put you... And your friends, in jail. There's no escape if you confess.
am I the only one who believed that we didn't really need to change Sae's heart? I mean we did need it for her to stop pursuing us but at the same time it was just mostly a trap for Akechi's betrayal, since in the end it was like a "fuck it with the treasure and run!" or maybe it was just my way of interpreting the game, to this day I still play because why not?
I genuinely thought I could not go back and change my options, thanks to you I can reverse my death along with making a previous save. Thank you for making this video, genuinely.
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I actually got this right the first time I played P5 by just being a smartass. To save you guys the trouble, here are the choices right after Sae attempts to leave the room without you giving up your team mates.
1. I want to make a deal
2. The phone
3. Show it to the culprit
4. Not a team mate
Choose these 4 choices, and you're on your way to avoiding death.
Not the hero we wanted
But the here we deserved
Hm weird cause I always thought you weren’t supposed to sell out your teammates
Yeah really just go with what you think is the best idea cus that is it
I got completely nervous when I got here for the first, I don’t know what to say to Sae.
I was so close. I got everything right except the last choice 😭
"Your time will be cut short."
*6 months later*
Sae: And what happened after that?
Protagonist: ...and then last Thursday, I ate a cheeseburger larger than my head.
Protag: " I actually ate three, I'm pretty sure I have diab-"
Sae: "CAN WE PLEASE GET BACK TO THE PHANTOM THIEVES?"
Protag: "BITCH LEMME FINISH MY STORY."
This joke was so funny I almost had a cardiac arrest😂
@@ArtiDaFool this is too damn funny. Lol
We get there, when we get there
@@ArtiDaFool
Joker: Every word I say is very important to the context. Without that cheeseburger I would not have gained the guts to ask Makoto out which is integral to getting the exp needed for my persona to get strong enough through fusion to defeat the palace!
Sae: Makoto... you mean my sister?
Joker: (Shit!) Mako- Ahhh noo. No. Not your sister. Makoto... Smith?
"Your time will be cut short"
"I understand"
Aka I will take more than 60 hours to speak with him
I'm Pretty actually the game... Itself is VERY long, not the interrogation...
@Marik ishtar45 r/woosh
@@TheAnodius The Full Game Is 100 Hours, If U Go Through The True Path, That Is
Pinoy Nightcore r/woosh
U know what AKA means right?
Sae thinks she's built up a steady case, but it doesn't hold water. The leader was caught at a casino, which doesn't exist once you leave the world, he was caught with weapons which are really just toys once you get back to the real world. Komoshida never reported anything stolen, Madarame couldn't report anything stolen because it was already stolen property, Kaneshiro was already a criminal, Medjed was threatening the whole of Japan, there was no real evidence that they killed Okumura, and lets not forget the fact that the Mental Shutdown cases started TWO years before the game began. Two years before the leader of the Phantom Thieves even arrived. So there are many holes on where she wants to step.
Yeah but this is Japan where reasonable doubt isn't a thing, and you'll still go to jail.
Haven't you heard the police don't care if the guns were toys or not
Also, the police officially don’t care if criminals run loose as long as they and only they are seen as heroes. Vigilantes are basically freelance policemen who break the rules sometimes to keep peace; the Phantom Thieves accurately fit the vigilante description. True, they were forcing change, but A) it was only on bad people and B) they were bringing light to crimes gone unpunished for too long. After watching gameplay of this game (I don’t have a PS4 lol), if people like the Phantom Thieves ever exist in real life, I’m supporting them all the way.
@@paperluigi6132
Mwehehehe
Shaney Zamora That’s all true, there’s many holes in Sae’s prosecution that doesn’t hold up. But didn’t you hear everyone beforehand? They don’t give a shit if they have evidence or a strong or weak case, they’re going to wring a confession out of anyone and get them sent to jail no matter the cost. Why do you think they were using physical violence and drugs to try and beat a confession out of Joker rather than take him to court and use their so-called “case” to find him guilty?
Akechi: *kills someone*
Protagonist: _I feel like my bond with akechi is growing deeper_
Akechi: *Tries to kill you*
Joker: *MY BOND WITH AKECHI HAS GROWN DEEPER*
Morgana: When Akechi was trying to kill you in the other world, it seemed that you two have gotten closer!
Akechi: *kills joker, cuts off his limbs, slowly to give him a slow death, other brutal things*
Joker: Our bond has grown deeper :))))
I mean this game is about teen killings hooker
So I'm not surprised
"Your time will be cut short. His methods are unknown, so it might be dangerous to even speak with him for that long."
*Joker literally tells all of the cases from Kamoshida, up to Sae*
@imunderpressure uggjhg idk, we're weird
Damn it somone said the phrase "America fuck yeah" now as a American I have no choice but to say it
MERICA!!!!
Imagine if Joker spoke like John Melany while he explained everything yet nothing at the same time. 😂
Tbf, interrogations often take a few days, they might be referring to how this is the only day she can speak with him, until they have to close and lock up the building. Meaning that the other days she was probably promised were cut off so they can get him in the judicial system quicker. In other words, they’re looking to dispose of him faster then they are allowed to.
Sae: WHY WON'T YOU TALK ABOUT THEM!?
Joker: *gets on top of the table* I AIN'T NO SNITCH, I GIVE NO SHITS!!! MY LIFE IS FORFEIT, BUT I WILL NOT SNITCH!!
This comment is comedy gold.
byonca robinson wow bootyful
I want someone to please make a comic strip of this comment.
S Manly I will ÒwÓ
Seastar- -Chan Would you send me the link?
BASICALLY GUYS DONT SNITCH
Akechi would deserve this, but you can't snitch on him lol
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Snitches get the stiches.
I died cause in the velvet room the twins said to grasp the truth so and since sae is a confindent i thought telling the truth to her is the way to go
Well i never felt so dump Afterwards
MekaniDragon ain’t that right never snitch that’s a one and only rule
Sae:"We need to learn the truth!" Joker:"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"
Haha!!
Yu: HMMM
Y o u w i l l n e v e r r e a c h t h e
T r u t h
Reach out to the truth starts playing
People in charge of the translation really wasted a golden opportunity to make a great reference.
Remain loyal even to the traitor, be straight and ask when you don't know what Morgana is talking about to remember. Simple.
i doesn;t give you an option to rat out akachi anyway
idc as long as i have a reason i want to live
Actually if you pick the "Not Akechi" option, Sae questions why you said him specifically before getting a look of realization as she pieces together what you mean. Remember the question she asks is "Was he a part of your group as well?" All the answers except that second one say he wasn't with you which implies loyalty to him. But the second one is worded as such to have an underlying meaning. It's actually fascinating writing by Atlus at this scene.
@@TheTriad001 for real my 1st play threw I clicked not goro and she hit me with that gotcha Biotch! And I was like ah damnit!
So basically as long as I don't mention my friend in the game I won't get killed
Persona 4 is probably the hardest one to get to the true ending without cheating on the internet:
First, you need to choose all the correct dialogues in the scenario where you must calm your friends
Then, you must figure out who the killer is
And finally, and the most bizarre of all, you must talk to a gas attendent you never even gave a thought about on the LAST DAY of the game after you thought you’re done with everything.
Tbf the gas station attendant was really suspicious af when they first appeared in the intro, but that was so long ago and the game spent dozens of hours trying to get you focused on something else so it's a pretty cheap reveal...I doubt most people even noticed they only appeared on rainy days.
Not to mention the good ending is already a pretty satisfying conclusion: caught the culprit and saved the town. Players who don’t know about the true ending wouldn’t even think about looking for it
All i wanna do is have a "romantic time😏😏😏" with yukiko
the attendant isnt even the worst part since at that point in the game you already were told by the dojimas about the gas station attentand, the worst part is figuring out that you HAVE to choose not to go home after saying your goodbyes and then going back to the junes food court since at that point in the game you think that everything is done and theres nothing else to do (at least in P4G)
(yes, im answering to a two year old comment)
@@YORCHspartan117 np replying to.a 2 year old comment since P4 came out on steam recently and everyone is remembering the true ending route challenge...not to mention you have to check the elevator TWICE and the game will fool you with the "you have no business here" line
I must confess.. I had it wrong the first time, and I truly felt ashamed. I was planing on saying "NO", but then I thought about how Sae cheats (and how apparently her shadow didn't change her ways), so I stupidly trusted her and snitched against my intuition. But, as soon as the bad ending started playing, I restarted the game.. They're right: your gut feeling IS right most of the time.
VenomLeon wait so you actually have to replay the game all over ?
NO, goodness no! I closed the game and restarted it from the last time I saved.
VenomLeon well I’m a complete dumbass haha dam I gotta replay
I'm so glad I'm not the only one would made this mistake. I thought about saying 'no' also then changed my mind. I kinda thought she already knew by the way her social link was playing out and figured if I wasn't fully honest with her I'd be condradicting myself and she wouldn't believe me. But once I saw that was wrong I restarted before the bad end could finish. Felt like such an idiot, I wasn't trying to purposely sell out my friends😓
I made this mistake too, and had to replay
Don't snitch, kids. Stay in school.
Andre Andre SNITCHES GET STITCHES!!! Or bullet holes.
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Sae: "...Then tell me! What is this 'justice' you speak of?"
Joker: "The kind that your daddy died for."
What would she have done if Joker said that?
MAYBE SHE IS GOING TO MARRY HIM
Idk strangle him I guess?
The screen would go gray for a moment and then a narrator (igors voice) would say: "it was at that moment Ren(Joker) knew.... He f**ked up."
Shoot him
*BITCH SLAP*
Honestly, even playing blind if you chose the sell your friends out option theres another prompt saying "Is this really the right choice?"
Unless you're completely clueless or you're doing it on purpose its pretty difficult to get the bad ending
Looks like i was completely clueless...
Nucleor Gaming me too bro 😞 gotta replay the game now
Professor Slyther cant you just reload the save
Noxtrin
That’s what i did.
.................man i feel so dumb now.......
Ain't no way yall played the game all the way up to this point and thought "Selling out my friends is the best option here"
Every choice doesnt matter unless its selling out your friends or not
Leoishere everything is important. If you sell out your friends you're gonna die
I just said the only choice that matters is if you choose to sell out your friends or not. (with sae niijima) Other choices are just replys which only changes one line
basically be a decent human being lol
if you snitched, you'd be no better than the corrupt adults in the game
also, it doesn't matter, but i didn't rat out my confidants either and it felt good lol
I think not snitching gives Joker enough time to remember the whole plan
When 69 played this he died for real and didn’t get to play any more
@Alvaro Sanchez oh no
Alvaro Sanchez it’s a joke because he snitched
Who’s 69?
@@twgbizmarky7753 Takeshi69.
Tatsuki oh ok thanks
Thank God I watched this video. I have this game and my sister was playing it and was about to rat everyone out. I stopped her.
You did a good job stopping her! You just saved lives 😂😂
The Phantom Thieves have a new target
so if u die here is it game over for everyone
No one likes a snitch
Why would you do that
WTF Sae! Pls stop punching the desk
Say that to everyone in Ace Attorney.
That is straight-up desk torture.
They were trained by Pelo himself.
28 STAB WOUNDS
Plot twist: the desk wants Sae to pound it harder
@@chaos_blue1089 yeah, its just tuesday in ace attorney courtroom
Hey! For those of you who see the scene after this, no spoilers of course, but I freaked out thinking I had failed lol. Just let it roll. It’s not what you think!
Yep
Can u actually fail thou?
Yea if you tell sae who helped you
i was stupid and told her who helped me
i think im traeder 😂😂
jetb9444 is that all? Not if you don’t make her your confidant? if I have to, how? Cause I am about to finish the kanashiro case
Wait, people actually messed up here? Cause i could have sworn if you try to answer wrong the game stops you and says," hmm I dont think you should say that, you sure you wanna say that?"
It does. Both here and later for the choice between good/true ending, if you choose wrong the game asks you if you are certain about your decision.
I honestly don't understand how someone can get it wrong.
The bad ending is really possible to be obtained in a blind run. One can simply go with this deal Sae gave to you and confess, and it's a valid choice from people who simply cannot lie. However, in police interrogations when you're busted, I learned that confessing the truth is exactly what the prosecutors wanted and confessing will end the interrogation right here and there and you will be charged. Nowhere to run.
Well, what Sae said would lighten your sentence, yes, but at what cost...? Everyone involved with the crime will get caught too. That's how police cracks down on drug trafficking cases in real life!
"Backbone" here means integrity. And police interrogations are meant to crumble that integrity through various mean, whether it through pressure, or understanding. Sae has overestimated your integrity the moment you decide to confess everyone who is involved. You basically... Give up everything. By choosing this option you have been honest for the wrong reasons. You sell out your friends for your own sake.
Some ppl do it on purpose
How I wanted it to go down:
Joker: You know your sister, Makoto?
Sae: What about her?
Joker: *Leans in closer with a whisper* She calls me daddy too...
Sae: *Lunges at Joker and beats him up far more than the cops did at the start*
mega sean Akechi would have a face telling Jim to live in a better place as he pulls the trigger in honour of putting Joker out of his suffering
@@peynnep6483 Akechi: Uhhhh..... considering that, I think I'll just... uhhh.... keep holding this gun and walk out of here.
"I need answers... bit I don't care if you end up loosing your *D I C K* "
Hoo boi
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Who would snitch on they homies in the first place I got the good ending my first play through
* meeseeks do you mean the true end or the "good" end?
The true ending i went on a road trip with everyone at the end and got the little clip after the credits
* meeseeks ok I was just wondering as the ending where you take the deal is good but very bad for you. I loved the true ending so great.
I didn't consider it snitching.. I was told to rely on my friends and thought it was the right way to tell the truth :(
I did it JUST so I can see what the bad ending is (and I saved first of course)
AHA! SEE I KNEW THE WHOLE PANCAKE CONVERSATION WAS GONNA BE MENTIONED. I THOUGHT AKECHI WAS SUSPICIOUS! LET'S GOO!!!
I thought it meant Akechi was gonna be a Phantom Thief
We all know how that turned out
While playing I noticed the pancake line and then looked at the cover of the game and then i felt a **Oh sheit** moment
@@lucasboi837 better yet it's the teasing with pancakes in Royal in the bonus trimester. Someone doesn't want pancakes for a big time.
I actually went through the chat logs when that first happened and realized that yes Morgana was the only one who actually mentioned the pancakes
It was weird that they didn't mention Akechi saying something like "seems like everyone's here" during the takoyaki scene.
That line was more subtle than they pancakes scene tho, but strange that they didn't bring it up.
Joker: Then I went to fourth base with the female members of the Phantom Thieves
Sae: ...
Joker: ... And with Mako-
Sae: *COCKS GUN*
Joker: She may be pregnant.
Naruto0116 Sae: shoots gun
Akechi: *stops Sae*
Akechi: Don't worry, I got this.
Step 1: Hook up with her
i wish
@@25Pignite same.
@@abrogarreuben hope they change it in R
I liked her before she wore her shadow outfit
Be like " yooo baby how u doin' "
Dont snitch
Shadow I got stitches
Snitches get stitches = bad ending is what im hearin right?
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Niijima
Damn, that's a lot of dots.
Ikr lol
Sae: Looks like my time is up.
Also Sae: Well..there’s also this *one* thing.
Idk why but when Morgana says “the smartphone, duh” it kills me every time
*_This video has been taken down by Atlus_*
FinalHunter rly
oOf
F
TILL THIS DAY!
"Your time will be cut short" Ren spending the next 300 hours explaining how he ran in a circle last Tuesday than played darts for an hour
There's something I don't get: Hasn't the main character pretty much told her the entire story at this point? Why is revealing your accomplices even a choice then? Like, they even specifically talked about Makoto at one point and I don't imagine a way to tell the story without revealing people...
Evil Ryu that’s what I don’t get either.
Maybe he didnt tell the names and number of party members he could tell something like we crushed the kamoshida then we celebrated it with my team
Evil Ryu he probably used their code names but mentions certain people that helped them and made team mates look like they accidentally helped the thieves. For example for Makoto he could have said that all she did was help a tiny bit without knowing.
Blake chandler well I've recently been replaying the game and he refers to makoto as student council president because when it cuts to the interrogation sae goes "student council president...? Makoto was involved with this?"
remember how he "seems to forget something important" then remembers it, but sae does not react as if she heard him?
He tells her a "cut version" of the story while he himself remembers it fully.
"Then on Friday I invited Makoto over to my room and we had.." *Inuadible sounds of someone getting beaten up*
"... So, the game is over".
What a truly foolish end
Lmao I wonder if the protagonist actually does that "thing" the the confidants
Sae's voice acting is on point!
She goes from trying to kill you in the medaverse to being the key to saving your life. Sae is an MVP but Futaba is the real hero for making this plan work.
BEGONE *THOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT*
Short answer to video don't rat out your friends 😂 a wise pervert once said those who break the rules are scum ....but those who abandon their friends are worse then scum
im Goku hmmm Kakashi or Obito 🤔🤔🤔
Miguel Y My boi it’s Kakashi
Caribbean Straw Hat yes but Obito used it as well in the past
im Goku kakashi is not that much a perve hes shy
Jordan Crooks What about Makeout Paradise, his book?
After dying 7 times i finally got it right
Haha atleast ya got it eventually
John Ren Gagan 7 times? holy...
You sure hate your team, eh?
Known_but_unknown Yes
7 Fools failed to reach The World
When Sae ask if Goro Akechi was a Phantom Thieve say “NOT Akechi” Then Sae will say “So Goro Akechi wasn’t one of you” Then when Sae is asking about who the true culprit is tell her “NOT a teammate” 😏
What I don't understand is why we can't say it was him... Like seriously the dude was never part of a member and he only wanted revenge. I personally would have confessed not snitch but confess the hell out of him knowing he is a freaking murderer.
I am not there in the game yet so it's unclear to me if it's just a suspicious or they know it by fact. If is a suspicious then it's considered snitch but if you know by a fact he's the traitor. What's wrong pointing the finger to the right person behind the demise of your entire friends?
@@albertleslieurena2766I think because they wanted proofs against Akechi and a way to get to Shido first. Remember that Akechi was used as a scapegoat for Shido
Our time is up
Still talking
My time has run out
Still talking
Thank you soooooo much! I was thinking about just doing it myself (which would have led to the bad ending) and if it weren’t for this video I’d pretty much be in a terrible position right now! So thank you!
Your welcome!!!
Pretty much don’t sell your friends out (Phantom Thieves AND other confidants alike) and use what you learned about Sae in her Palace to make it out alive.
Would’ve loved that advice on my very first play through, but that’s what New Game + is for, right?
I actually failed this and died because I assumed that Akira had already told Sae most of everything anyway, considering how the entire game up until this point was a flashback. She was even one of your confidants, and you had just beaten her palace. I thought that there was a twist, like she was going to secretly help you escape if you gave up your friends, showing her that you trusted her. Basically, I over thought it, and I died. Kinda crushed me to be honest. Loaded up my save and continued onward like nothing ever happened. Still wish I would've chosen right though...
Same! I still feel guilty though
WatchingMaster 950 I didn't understand what I did i was like she already fucking knows o already snitch basically the entire game I just have to help her then she'll sneak out I'm an idiot
Same here, man.. I wanted to say NO, but started overthinking shit (Sae's cheating nature, as well as that I've already shared my story about my comrades earlier in the game to her). I did the same thing; restarted the game as soon as I saw the credits. I developed a newfound respect for my/Akira's friends, though.
YOU RAT YOU!!! Jk! Lol
Well sir you have no reason to feel bad because you also had a geninue way of thinking how things might have gotten. The games just did a plot twist nothing wrong with that. Obviously this game encourages relationship so the higher it is the more we feel at ease being with that person. Works in real life as well and probably in real life it might have worked somehow similar to how you might have imagined it
akechi with white gloves in the anime cutscene: YA DUN F*CKED UP BOI!
akechi with black gloves in the anime cutscene: (in sae's mind) YA DUN F*CKED UP BOI!
President Gamer ahahhaha YUUUUUP
So basically dont be 6ix9ine
How to survive:
Snitches get stitches.
I got it right on my first try, but it didn't seem like it, so I was fuckin' scared when Joker "died"...
I never saw it coming
Alejandro Moris same, but even so, I would’ve never sold my friends out.
Alejandro Moris same, but even so, I would’ve never sold my friends out.
I still love that P4 were detectives, and P5 was thieves. It's like the Magic Kaito - Detective Conan crossover
How to get good endings
P3: Don't be an idiot lol
P4: Carefully plan your time and select through specific choices even after you think everything is over
P5: Don't be an idiot lol
Gaurd:"Your time will be cut short"
Sae:"I understand"
Minutes later
Joker: and then your sister riped a mask off of her face summoning a motorbike
Sae:...
Oh my god . I can’t believe that people could spend hours playing this just so that they die because of these few choices . Can you imagine their reaction if they snitched and died and they thought that was the end then looked it up and found out that they lost because they snitched ?
Main character:-*breathes*
Sae:-Someone is supplying you with air right?
I can see sae being like.. HOW IS YOUR HAIR SO SILKY AND SMOOTH WITH A SHINING TEXTURE, YOU MUST HAVE A HAIR STYLIST FIXING YOUR HAIR WHILE YOUR DOING WHAT YOU DO. dundun dundun i am thou. ETC
Short answer: Snitches gets stitches and end up in ditches.
Went in blind, and i think i only slipped up near the end.
I had read something wrong, and thought Sae was on our side, when she was still in questioning mode.
Fun fact; the game will slap you in the face for choosing the wrong answer, so you have to deliberately go for the bad end.
*Sae slams table* 28 STAB WOUNDS!!!
Lol just wanted to add that 😂 everytime she slammed the table it reminded me of the interrogation in Detroit becomes human.
Also, thanks so much for this video, I watched it before I went ahead with this and selected similar choices. I was an idiot and I thought Sae would’ve helped Joker if I sold out my friends. I’ve seen the bad ending and it looks so depressing 😭 thank god I had 3 saves.
Hahahha no prob
Sae is punching the table like nothing. Phoenix would be proud
This would theoretically explain why Persona 5: The Royal will be released from 2019 to 2020.
I even tried to intentionally choose different dialogue options on my 2nd playthrough and somehow never knew there was a possibility to die.
When I chose not to rat out my brus, I thought I got the bad ending when Joker died, and I was even more confused when Ryuji deviously smiled in the animated cutsene.
I've got persona 5 and just got to this point in game last night. And mind I that was epic faked death lol.
Someone remind me of the crazy plan this all went through
First of all, the group suspected Akechi from the start when they heard him remark something about pancakes being said when Morgana was the only one saying anything (I noticed this and thought this meant he’d become a Thief along with/over Makoto, look how wrong I was) proving he had been to the Metaverse beforehand. After accepting his deal, they planned out everything to happen after Sae got her calling card. They’d steal the treasure as normal, but the actual treasure was replaced by an empty briefcase beforehand to trick Akechi into thinking it was the real thing. Then they knew somehow that Akechi would bring in the police to the Metaverse to catch Joker/the entire crew, so they acted surprised when they saw the army of officers when they in fact had planned out the next bit of text wall, to happen after Joker was caught.
So there was a secret cognitive interrogation room and a real room, each with their own copies of Joker inside, because the Thieves somehow figured *that* out too. Sae interrogates the real Joker, and Akechi is tricked into killing the cognitive Joker so that everyone thinks he’s dead. The only thing that could ruin the entire plan is Sae not being convinced, so Joker has to convince Sae that he’s telling the truth and he’s not bad (if he doesn’t, bad ending, if he does, good ending), then tip her off to show Akechi the phone to transport him into the Metaverse so the real Joker wouldn’t die. And *then* after all of this the one person to smuggle Joker out is Sae after she’s convinced, to expose Akechi to the thieves and finally figure out who was behind everything.
AND REMEMBER THAT THE THIEVES ARE A BUNCH OF HIGH SCHOOLERS AND AN ANTHROPOMORPHIC CAT, HOW THE HECK DID THEY THINK OF ALL OF THIS JVJKSLDCKJDDNCJCJANSMD
Well, necessity is the mother of invention. Once that slip was caught, they needed to make sure Goro Akechi was a completely known quantity. Hence, the wiretap. And once that wiretap bore fruit (the plot to kill the Theives) plans started getting formulated to work around that. The thing with the duplicate Joker was to get the copy into a place where Akechi would take the bait, tying together the thing about places unrelated to the Shadow's Palace matching how they appeared in reality (How Joker and Ryuji stumbled into this whole mess to begin with) and the thing about how non-threats don't get costumes (as seen in Futaba's Palace).
As for how they figured all that shit out, they have a Morgana, a Makoto, and a Futaba. The heists can get pretty impressive with that caliber of tool at their disposal.
I love this was on my recommendation the moment I got this wrong.
To be completely honest, I was sick at the time while doing this. I didn't even understand how bad this really is. It, just makes me feel like a garbage person for getting this bad ending. I betrayed my collaborators first. It is such a bad feeling to just, do that. It kinda makes me wonder if I am a bad person or not. Either way, thank you for posting this for the people who need it.
Your welcome !
Ratting your way out is bad... Even if it's honest. Unless they really betrayed you.
@@X1erra I don't think they betrayed me, I feel like it was more like me betraying them. But if you meant something else then I apologize for not understanding.
Edit: I honestly had no intention on ratting out either. Looking back at it now, I seriously question how one can mess this up. To this day I still think that I'm an awful person for choosing this. I just wasn't thinking at all at the time.
10:32 *How Bout dat?*
Old memes 2017
When Sae answered phone, was that when she entered her palace and the plan went off?
Yes. They explain it a bit after
The fuzzy effects that happen afterwards; the one where she showed the phone to Akechi, is them both transferring to Sae's Palace unconciously. When she picks up the ringing phone after some time, the same effect happens again, and both are transferred back to the real world. She then warns the same guard that was shot in her palace to go into hiding. Basically that guard never gets shot in the end... And so are you.
Momma didn't raise no snitch
Sae assumes wayyy too much stuff in this scene to save Joker's ass. That's what we call plot convenience. There's a lot of that in this game.
the thumbnail looks like Sae Nijima is trying to sell me some life insurance
So true! 😂
me: *accidentally misses a button press and makes the wrong choice*
game: boi u sure u want dat, it's like, u rat out ur friends
me: eh okay
also me: *sees bad ending*
also me: *totally selfashamed*
also me: ok i made da wrong choice cuz of a button press absent, let's forget it ever happened
also me: *will probably never forget because he has such practice in other games*
[I mean accidentally getting a bad ending instead of a good one for stupid reasons like this / bad choices]
*but his heart is cleaner now cuz he saw dat bad ending*
Glad I picked the right answers so far on accident 😂
Hahahh NICEEEE
who in there right mind would sell out there own friends!
also notice you didn't have an opption to sell out akechi
When she said she would lighten the sentence if we rat out our friends , I was like BAITCH I WOULD RATHER DIE THAN RAT OUT MY FRIENDS also what happens when you rat out your friends?
well, basically you won't get to give your phone which is essential to luring the traitor into shooting your cognitive self and not you. If you rat them out immediately, she'll just finish the interrogtion without further ado so that the traitor gets a clear shot at you.
Well Akechi shoots you in the head and kills you, instead of your cognitive self...I think? I don’t remember the video that well.....
the real you dies instead of the fake you
Right thing to tell her huh?
Will you be my girl?
In the true ending, whatever happened to Joker in the present day? Was he placed in jail? Free to go? Or did he escaped from the police department?
I don't have the game and don't have time to watch all the walkthrough videos
Joker would still be palaced in jail for 2 months, just enough time for sae to took care of things, after that you free. Just mere formality
So is this the interrogation from the start of the game, or the ending? Because if it's the first one, i'm royally boned.
+pizzama2003 its late in the game
jetb9444 Oh thank god, so I don't have to worry about the first interrogation?
+pizzama2003 nah your fine.
Late game. This whole interrogation is segmented from the start of the game... Up to this point.
I almost snitched because she kept telling me it was the only way out, but when the game asked ARE YOU SURE YOU WANNA DO THAT, YOU FREAKIN' MORON? I realized I wasn't supposed to, lol. In hindsight it was a pretty stupid idea since all Sae ever promised me was to maybe get me out of the death penalty.
as the great crendor once said "don't be an ass"
I accidently sold the people out, got the bad ending then over rite my recent wave so im rlly sad now
snitches get stitches
Snitches get a gun to their head.
Thanks dude, I was so confused when Akechi frickin quick scoped me and the credits started rolling lmao
Your a GOAT man 🐐🐐
I find it hilarious how most of the people here also decided to date Makoto and rub it in Sae's face
Joker: do you know your sister Makoto?
Sae: yes, what?
Joker: ya me la culie
Akeria understands but doesn't care friends are what these games are about
Ok for a second there when it started I was thinking WAIT I HAVE TO DO IT ALL AGAIN?
This video seems to have confused the majority of people. If you're playing this and decide to sell out your friends then what do you expect? Plus the game basically warns you if you try to do it and it's so blatantly obvious no one should ever accidentally get this.
Sae just had to look into Akira's phone to know who's working with him and to know how the Metaverse is working
People actually need help on this? The first time I played, I hit it right on the head, no problem.
CK TV same. I don't understand why you would snitch on your friends. I suspected Sae was using a tactical manuver by being friendly so she could trick the MC into snitching.
Blake chandler Wow... I uh... Never thought about it that way
Same mate
Ikr?
The true ending of Persona 4 is way harder to get since you have to gather your friends on the LAST DAY after you’ve just said your goodbyes!
Aye. Y'all need to watch or read a documentary about police interrogations. You'll understand the tactics they use to drive you into confessing and bargaining a deal is but one of the ways. By confessing, you have been played right into their hands, the police have found their evidence to put you... And your friends, in jail. There's no escape if you confess.
Me who kept on dying then finally got it: NOW YOU SHOW UP AFTER I HAD TO WATCH JOKER DIE 15 DIFFERENT TIMES
😅😅😅🤣
am I the only one who believed that we didn't really need to change Sae's heart? I mean we did need it for her to stop pursuing us but at the same time it was just mostly a trap for Akechi's betrayal, since in the end it was like a "fuck it with the treasure and run!" or maybe it was just my way of interpreting the game, to this day I still play because why not?
i just played through this part and i went through some pure ass stress during this scene lmao I hope i said the right stuff
I didn't think it would be more of a task to lose then win, i won
I genuinely thought I could not go back and change my options, thanks to you I can reverse my death along with making a previous save.
Thank you for making this video, genuinely.
Snitches get stitches, especially in this case
Correction. Snitches get puncture wounds and die of blood loss all of which is framed as suicide
The right things to S A E
Im scared of your comment
I’m scared, I think I triggered a bad ending this and I don’t wanna play the whole game again
And in the End, Sae Nijima IS the most important Confidant of them all...
my first playthrough i snitched and it _gave_ me the option to back out, i felt like i fucked up but i went with it. i yelled at my tv when i died.
I knew something was up with Akechi and that pancake conversation!!!! LETS FUCKING GOOOOO!!!!!!