I've been seriously thinking a trying a larger predetor engine on a sand rail... I see them cheap all the time because they have no engines... and the Facebook groups are all haters because you are doing something they cant... awesome job!
That is an awesome idea to put a 212 predator on a VW I currently have the 212 predator on a scooter I built that 7 ft long 20 inch tires and it has a 1950 farm tractor seat I can do over 46 mph thanks for the video😊
Somehow just found your page. Liked by 30 seconds, subscribed by 60. And ignore those people! I think that is an awesome idea. While it may not appeal to everyone, there are PLENTY of people that would buy that kit. I would right now! Would love to see you do one with a 670, especially a modded one! Thank you for the intro by the way, didn't know I needed that. Can't wait to watch more! Sure you'll see me in the comment section there too, albeit a shorter message hopefully haha
I am thinking about swapping the 6.5 to a 18hp I have here... Appreciate the comment, put a smile on my face. Let alone they help out with the algorithms, so comment away! Chanel is still small enough I try to respond to comments.
@@worthshop "Redbeard's Garage" just featured 999cc with 58 ft lb torque, would power a bug like it was "factree" (VGG haha). the power and rpm range are so similar to a boxer engine anyway really. electric starter and a charging system that'd likely support LED headlights, turn signals etc too? I get this project is just for giggles and has its quirks+shortcomings, same time it gets the point across pretty well. little old 3 cylinder Geo Metro was 1 liter with a 5 speed giving +55 mpg if you were nice to it, a VW bug could do similarly and look 5 times classier than a bread box Metro any day. if you get a "round tuit".. deal on a clean bug to play with etc, its a project idea I'd love to see realized. no fuss no muss easy replacement, the cooling blower and cylinder head shrouds could be plumbed to existing heater tubes that run up the outer pan floor.. insulating inside body with 1" foam board would be inexpensive+simple too. cables to the factory heater boxes are already there to play with. bugs are such great tinker-toys!
Your right..not much else out there for vw s...I have couple old dune buggies..mite just have to do one close to this...little helper for you...grind the metal clean before welding..much easier after..plus better penatration....as for your long throttle...hardware store..aircraft cable..run it inside break line tubing..my other is getting chevette engine in front..with two four speeds in line....to help gear down when off road crawling...good luck..
Great job champ!! Engineering is fun! I have a 28hp Honda vtwin that’s going into a project soon , something similar to this. You should keep making content !!! Keep up the good work !!
That was a good idea bud some people think just because it a lawn mower engine it not no good but a lawn mower engine can surprise u with the torque and power they have My buddy used to build racing lawn mower a he had some fast one
I have a triumph GT six and I’m gonna be putting a predator 660 cc engine into that car with a homemade frame utilizing the front end of a four wheeler for the steering and a Rear differential driveshaft and transmission from a Toyota 86 and fabricating it all together
The Idea is awesome, but it needs a bigger motor a 625cc 1 cylinder engine would have enough power to push a buggy on a steep gradient and have the torque to run a 1:1 motor to gearbox pulley
Agree it needs a little bigger engine. But I would do a 2:1 reduction with the bigger engine. The reduction would lower top speed but provide more torque and power at the lower speeds. Make it funner to drive off road in my opinion. Thanks for watching.
Since nobody would help you, I would suggest to you to buy your own plasma cutter and learn how to use it. When you have ideas in your head, sometimes it's best to make it happen on your own.
My lessons learned, I would have done a 1" shaft not the 3/4" I used. Would probably go for around 60 tooth sprocket and 10 tooth on the torque converter. I grew bored with the 212 pretty fast and would probably just go for the 420 to start if you can find it in the budget.
You gotta check out the mellow mechanic he attached A 420 to A volkswagen transexual in a golf cart kart using the vw clutch it turned out pretty damn cool
Appreciate the comment. I have looked at some of those videos. Definitely a pretty cool setup. I have some new ideas or a future build. Just always about the time tools and resources to get it done.
Great video brother talk to a truck driver and to have him teach you how to float the gears Your acceleration and get-up-and-go will be a lot better I am a new sub I can't wait to see the rest of your videos
Appreciate the comment. The shifter bushings are completely worn out. Need to replace them, but have other priorities... So it is a major pain to shift under any circumstances...
I love the idea. Where are you located? if you are in Pa maybe we could get together. i just started a small engine/mobile welding business. do you have an email? heck the volkswagen engines were only 30 horsepower.
Yes it would, do a 2 to 1 reduction on the gearing so you get more speed but a decent amount of power. Would be pretty fun. I might build one someday. Thanks for watching.
@@tristanfletcher1363 Ya, I would have worked on upgrading it more... But it just didn't make the cut when I moved almost 6 hours away across the state. I made alot of trips back and forth hauling projects, household stuff, trucks, motorhome, tractor, etc. I would have spent about as much in fuel as it was worth. So just was not worth dragging along. Thanks for watching. I might build a different one in the future with a bigger engine. Just depends on what I come across on marketplace.
@@worthshop I would really like to see another build... Do u think a japanese kei car or kei truck would be light enough an have enough space to do a project like what u did with the bug? Like a suzuki alto or daihatsu hijet mini truck
@@tristanfletcher1363 I am not super experienced with the mini trucks. I am sure it could be done though. Have actually been watching for an affordable one to pop up fir sale, but the prices have gone up more than down... Kinda the story of everything the last few years. Any time I find a budget friendly one it is practically destroyed and not a good candidate for me to repair.
He should win the award for the worst beard ever,😆, listening to this guy talk, you'd think he never worked on his go-cart as a kid, was you forced to hang-out with mommy as a child, or was it by choice?, I'm guessing it was a choice,😉, he's to scared to even do a top-speed run.😂
Wow you so funny! I was locked up at 10 spent over 5 years of my childhood in institutions for attempted murder. I had a step dad that was doing horrible things to my sisters and I, I tried to protect my family the best way I knew how. That choice cost me my childhood, and put me on a horrible path in life. I have no regrets over any of it except the part where he lived.
That kit idea is pretty cool, because there are so many rail buggies and bugs with bad motor on them or no motors at all.👍
Absolutely. I like to see things used not sent to the scrap yard. Appreciate your comments, enjoy your chanel. Thanks for watching.
I've been seriously thinking a trying a larger predetor engine on a sand rail... I see them cheap all the time because they have no engines... and the Facebook groups are all haters because you are doing something they cant... awesome job!
Build one! You will enjoy it. Appreciate the comment.
Gopowersports sells the Tilson 212 go-kart racing engine for less than $250 10000 RPM at 13 HP it is a little badass I have one on my machine
get a predator 420 or 670… they’re beats
beasts* my apologies
Won't have enough power for the sand
You should put the vtwin predator in the bug. I'd love to see that done. Pretty sure it could be a great option over a new 1640cc vw engine.
That is an awesome idea to put a 212 predator on a VW I currently have the 212 predator on a scooter I built that 7 ft long 20 inch tires and it has a 1950 farm tractor seat I can do over 46 mph thanks for the video😊
Sounds like a fun project! Thanks for watching.
@@worthshop thank you for making the time for the video
Nicely done! From a fellow Aspie gearhead...
Thanks!
Awesome thinking dude. Torque converter as a clutch, absolutely brilliant.
Appreciate the comment. Between the torque converter and the 5:1 gear reduction in the chain drive it does pretty well with 6.5hp.
Is that the first time you’ve ever seen that?
Really cool video. I have a Baja bug doing nothing in the garage and a new 420.... Would make for a great project.
I may end up doing a 16hp duromax swap in the future. Have a new one in my garage.
Pretty impressive, especially considering you did it all with the transaxle still bolted into the car
Thanks for watching!
Somehow just found your page. Liked by 30 seconds, subscribed by 60. And ignore those people! I think that is an awesome idea. While it may not appeal to everyone, there are PLENTY of people that would buy that kit. I would right now! Would love to see you do one with a 670, especially a modded one! Thank you for the intro by the way, didn't know I needed that. Can't wait to watch more! Sure you'll see me in the comment section there too, albeit a shorter message hopefully haha
I am thinking about swapping the 6.5 to a 18hp I have here... Appreciate the comment, put a smile on my face. Let alone they help out with the algorithms, so comment away! Chanel is still small enough I try to respond to comments.
@@worthshop That would be awesome! Would love to see it!
COOL idea! thank you sir!
Was any work done to the 212cc when u had it or was it a stock motor?
Stock out of the box from harbor freight.
@@worthshop so there is some good potential for your setup to go faster. Maybe get it up to 25-30mph by derestricting the governor and a billet rod?
@@tristanfletcher1363 Or just swap in a bigger engine. I sold it when I moved across the state though. Might build another one someday.
Does it use the original trans with gear? Top speed? Also will it move up dirt roads
Check out my other videos, still has original transaxle. Does about 15mph. Goes up hills pretty well, just not super fast.
a V-twin Predator just might be perfect to adapt up
Yes, would be a little more power and wheel speed. I have been contemplating it.
@@worthshop "Redbeard's Garage" just featured 999cc with 58 ft lb torque, would power a bug like it was "factree" (VGG haha). the power and rpm range are so similar to a boxer engine anyway really. electric starter and a charging system that'd likely support LED headlights, turn signals etc too? I get this project is just for giggles and has its quirks+shortcomings, same time it gets the point across pretty well. little old 3 cylinder Geo Metro was 1 liter with a 5 speed giving +55 mpg if you were nice to it, a VW bug could do similarly and look 5 times classier than a bread box Metro any day.
if you get a "round tuit".. deal on a clean bug to play with etc, its a project idea I'd love to see realized. no fuss no muss easy replacement, the cooling blower and cylinder head shrouds could be plumbed to existing heater tubes that run up the outer pan floor.. insulating inside body with 1" foam board would be inexpensive+simple too. cables to the factory heater boxes are already there to play with. bugs are such great tinker-toys!
Good idea. I'm about to build something similar using a Ford 8.8 rear, GM manual trans and a side by side go kart.
Awesome, sounds like a fun project. Let me know how it turns out. Thanks for watching.
Your right..not much else out there for vw s...I have couple old dune buggies..mite just have to do one close to this...little helper for you...grind the metal clean before welding..much easier after..plus better penatration....as for your long throttle...hardware store..aircraft cable..run it inside break line tubing..my other is getting chevette engine in front..with two four speeds in line....to help gear down when off road crawling...good luck..
Thanks for the throttle idea. Appreciate you watching and the suggestions.
Great job champ!! Engineering is fun! I have a 28hp Honda vtwin that’s going into a project soon , something similar to this. You should keep making content !!! Keep up the good work !!
28hp will be awesome! Almost as much as a stock vw anyway so should go great. Good luck with your project, thanks for watching!
Love it, the intro was just what I needed. Subscribed!
Appreciate the comment, glad to pass on encouraging words.
awesome idea, carb kit and your good
Thanks for watching.
That was a good idea bud some people think just because it a lawn mower engine it not no good but a lawn mower engine can surprise u with the torque and power they have My buddy used to build racing lawn mower a he had some fast one
Appreciate the comment. Thanks for watching and helping to grow the chanel.
Its not a lawnmower engine its better
I have a triumph GT six and I’m gonna be putting a predator 660 cc engine into that car with a homemade frame utilizing the front end of a four wheeler for the steering and a Rear differential driveshaft and transmission from a Toyota 86 and fabricating it all together
Sounds like a fun build. Good luck with your project. Appreciate the comment and thanks for watching.
If you sneeze does that count as air brakes?
I preferred to use my feet like the flintstones.
Thank you for doing this.
Thanks for watching, appreciate the comment.
Cool, thanks man!
Appreciate all the info you have shared on 212 swapping. I see you are starting a Mazda pickup build now. I will definitely be watching.
The Idea is awesome, but it needs a bigger motor
a 625cc 1 cylinder engine would have enough power to push a buggy on a steep gradient
and have the torque to run a 1:1 motor to gearbox pulley
Agree it needs a little bigger engine. But I would do a 2:1 reduction with the bigger engine. The reduction would lower top speed but provide more torque and power at the lower speeds. Make it funner to drive off road in my opinion. Thanks for watching.
Since nobody would help you, I would suggest to you to buy your own plasma cutter and learn how to use it. When you have ideas in your head, sometimes it's best to make it happen on your own.
Guess I will be saving up for a plasma table or water jet some day... Appreciate the comment. Hope you have a blessed day.
what kind of clutch is that?
Go kart torque converter.
im bulding a subaru brat with a 212 if you have any ideas that would be great
My lessons learned, I would have done a 1" shaft not the 3/4" I used. Would probably go for around 60 tooth sprocket and 10 tooth on the torque converter. I grew bored with the 212 pretty fast and would probably just go for the 420 to start if you can find it in the budget.
@@worthshop so far i havnt spend any money but i wana do a 24 hp engine i have but later down the road
Hello, thats awesome, great job, got to build me one, so much fun, thanks for sharing buddy
Appreciate the comment.
Hello, I forgot to tell you a stage one kit in that motor is like adding a turbo charger making all the differance,
cool
Thanks for watching, was a fun project.
You gotta check out the mellow mechanic he attached A 420 to A volkswagen transexual in a golf cart kart using the vw clutch it turned out pretty damn cool
Appreciate the comment. I have looked at some of those videos. Definitely a pretty cool setup. I have some new ideas or a future build. Just always about the time tools and resources to get it done.
Id do the same but cant get past the pronouns
Man this is a very cool vid...i like you and i like your project..keep it up bud!..
Thank you for the comment and encouragement!
Great video brother talk to a truck driver and to have him teach you how to float the gears Your acceleration and get-up-and-go will be a lot better I am a new sub I can't wait to see the rest of your videos
Appreciate the comment. The shifter bushings are completely worn out. Need to replace them, but have other priorities... So it is a major pain to shift under any circumstances...
what size sprocket on input shaft ? how many teeth ?
10 tooth on my torque converter output, and 50 tooth on the jack shaft connected to the transmission.
@@worthshop ok, thanks, fun times, im going to build me a VW 6.5 you did a great JOB
About time I found this video
Thanks for looking and dropping me a comment!
I love the idea. Where are you located? if you are in Pa maybe we could get together. i just started a small engine/mobile welding business. do you have an email? heck the volkswagen engines were only 30 horsepower.
Washington state, other side of the country.
I've seen little trucks pushed by a predator.
Cool!
Thanks for watching. Appreciate the comment.
I bet the 670cc engine would move that bug real good.
Yes it would, do a 2 to 1 reduction on the gearing so you get more speed but a decent amount of power. Would be pretty fun. I might build one someday. Thanks for watching.
Even a 420cc predator or 440cc duromax would work well. Robot Cantina got some good speed with his 420cc honda insight. Love these builds
@@tristanfletcher1363 Ya, I would have worked on upgrading it more... But it just didn't make the cut when I moved almost 6 hours away across the state. I made alot of trips back and forth hauling projects, household stuff, trucks, motorhome, tractor, etc. I would have spent about as much in fuel as it was worth. So just was not worth dragging along. Thanks for watching. I might build a different one in the future with a bigger engine. Just depends on what I come across on marketplace.
@@worthshop I would really like to see another build... Do u think a japanese kei car or kei truck would be light enough an have enough space to do a project like what u did with the bug? Like a suzuki alto or daihatsu hijet mini truck
@@tristanfletcher1363 I am not super experienced with the mini trucks. I am sure it could be done though. Have actually been watching for an affordable one to pop up fir sale, but the prices have gone up more than down... Kinda the story of everything the last few years. Any time I find a budget friendly one it is practically destroyed and not a good candidate for me to repair.
turbo 670cc would work great
Yes it would, better power, more speed. Thanks for watching. Appreciate the comment.
🤣🤣🤣 snails are faster
But not as much fun! Thanks for watching.
Piss on facebook! Use mewe and rumble.
I think all social media and tech platforms have their faults... Thank you for the comment and suggestion, I will look into them.
He should win the award for the worst beard ever,😆, listening to this guy talk, you'd think he never worked on his go-cart as a kid, was you forced to hang-out with mommy as a child, or was it by choice?, I'm guessing it was a choice,😉, he's to scared to even do a top-speed run.😂
Wow you so funny! I was locked up at 10 spent over 5 years of my childhood in institutions for attempted murder. I had a step dad that was doing horrible things to my sisters and I, I tried to protect my family the best way I knew how. That choice cost me my childhood, and put me on a horrible path in life. I have no regrets over any of it except the part where he lived.
Jerry B123 what an awful thing to say… this young man is clearly doing things … and learning… where’s your RUclips channel???