How Powerful is Nightwing?
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Richard John Grayson is a fictional superhero appearing in American comic books published by DC Comics, commonly in association with Batman. Created by writer Bill Finger and artist Bob Kane, he first appeared in Detective Comics #38 in April 1940 as the original and most popular incarnation of Robin, partner to the superhero Batman forming the iconic Dynamic Duo team. In Tales of the Teen Titans #44 (July 1984) the character after becoming a young adult and in an effort to make himself a separate independent hero from Batman retires his role as Robin and assumes the superhero persona of Nightwing (created by Marv Wolfman and artist George Pérez).
The youngest in a family of acrobats known as the "Flying Graysons", Grayson witnesses a mafia boss named Tony Zucco kill his parents in order to extort money from the circus that employed them. After the tragic murder, Batman (Bruce Wayne) takes Grayson in as his legal ward (retconned as an adopted son in some cases) and trains him to become his crime-fighting partner Robin. He is written by many authors as the first son of Batman. As well as being Batman's crime-fighting partner, Grayson establishes himself as the leader of the Teen Titans, a team of teenage superheroes. As a young man, he retires as Robin and takes on his own superhero identity to assert his independence, becoming Nightwing. As Nightwing, he continues to lead the Teen Titans and later the Outsiders. In the first volume of his eponymous series (1996-2009), he becomes the protector of Blüdhaven, Gotham's economically troubled neighboring city, the locale the character is most closely associated with. He has also been depicted as protecting the streets of New York, Chicago, and Gotham City over the years.
Grayson has also taken on the identity of Batman on a few occasions. In the aftermath of "Batman: Knightfall", he was not offered the role of Batman while Wayne was recovering from a broken back, as he felt that Nightwing was a hero in his own right and not Batman's understudy, but after the events of the Zero Hour miniseries later that year, Grayson temporarily fills in as Batman, beginning in Robin #0 (1994) and extending throughout the Batman: Prodigal storyline in 1995. Grayson again assumes the mantle following the events of "Batman R.I.P." (2008) and Final Crisis (2008-2009). As Batman, he moves to Gotham City following his mentor's apparent death and partners with the fifth Robin, Damian Wayne. Following Wayne's return, both men maintained the Batman identity until 2011, when Grayson returned to the Nightwing identity with DC's The New 52 continuity reboot. In a 2014 comic story, he is forced to abandon the Nightwing identity after being unmasked on TV and faking his death, setting up Tim Seeley's Grayson comic book, Dick becomes Agent 37, Batman's mole in the nefarious spy organization Spyral. Following the conclusion of the Grayson series, and the restoration of his secret identity in the series' final issue,[3] he returns to being Nightwing as part of the DC Rebirth relaunch in 2016. During the Tom King's Batman run and after the frustrated marriage between Wayne and Selina Kyle, Grayson is also seen taking the mantle during the first part of the "Cold Days" arc, as Wayne is confined in a jury while Mr. Freeze is on trial. 
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GREAT CRISIS DC COMICS POWER SCALING ON NIGHTWING.
People forget the fact that Dick is basically Bruce if he was training ever since he was 9, being taught by the best of the best for so many years, as well as racking up experience as a sidekick, stand alone crime fighter, and leader of both the titans and the justice league. He’s batman if he wasn’t so dark, and didn’t spend most of his life sulking, and instead training
@@heisenberg2712 batman didn’t train like dick until he was 18 when he traveled the world that’s what he’s saying.
@@heisenberg2712 nice reply. Theres no way dick and really beat batman. All batman did for almost 2 decades was train and alot of that was dedicated in martial arts. Also idgaf if u call batman a master, he cant train 1 person (dick) better than the MULTIPLE martial arts teachers SEASONED IN THAT SPECIFIC FIELD can. Tldr. No way irl dick would be able to beat batman. Batman stomps 8/10 times
@@heisenberg2712 now as cool of a boyscout badge knot tying he doesn't have big stick
@@heisenberg2712 Batman didn't start physical training until he was 16.
@@tijjy327 I hate Batman fanboys. 😂
Love this! Batman is so hyped but people underestimate just how incredible Nightwing is nowadays (personality to feats and storylines, he's just a great character and it's a shame nobody dives deep into his comics).
Nobody but me 😡
Same here man I love this guy I have major respect for the guy he's batman greatest success.
@@CRISIS_COMICS is nightwing as physically strong as batman. Also can you do a respect catwoman and lady shiva and bronze tiger and cheshire videos I would really appreciate it and I think they are criminally underrated I don't think many people realize just how strong they are physically and stuff.
Legit. I’ve recently been trying to read Nightwing comics but haven’t gotten that many, but from what I have they’re very good. I have his Rebirth vol. 1, Grayson Legacy story, 2 issues from New 52, a Rebirth issue, & another one but not sure what continuity it’s from.
@@keetinlong6330 New 52 is the soft-reboot of DC comics back in 2011, but Rebirth combined the old mainstream with New 52 so most of everyone and everything is together. Nightwing's comics didn't change too much outside his startup as Robin and first few years as Nightwing in the New 52, but Rebirth fixed that while keeping the likeable parts of New 52.
As far as Nightwing himself is going, I'm loving his title right now! Writer Tom Taylor is arguably the best person to handle Dick Grayson since Chuck Dixon's run.
I think Nightwings accomplishments are even more impressive due to his youth, dude was leading a full squad as a teenager…. Like that’s crazy, and it’s even more crazy as he was an actual good leader
and his teammates were teenagers with powers lol
EXCELLENT WORK. CRISIS
And Nightwing does it all white still being a nicer, more upbeat, and generally less brooding guy. Fav hero.
I genuinely believe that nightwing could’ve been DCs Spider-Man but they just never gave him the push he needed as a solo act
Nightwing could never be on Spider-Man's level writing and popularity wise maybe if he was a completely original character with no connection to Batman but the one thing that doomed him from getting the respect and popularity he deserves is that Dick Grayson will always be more iconic as Robin then as Nightwing
@@solen5529 no I’m my opinion the characters are very similar. Nightwing is my favorite superhero
@@chandlercarr4527 When did I ever say the characters aren't similar? Clearly Nightwing has been inspired a lot by Spider-Man, Everything Nightwing does Spider-Man simply does better 🤷♂
I think a major reason is that he's never really been given his own rouges gallery or a main villaim. The closet would probably be Deathstroke as he's a major Teen Titans villain but never really solo with nightwing. They tried with Raptor but that shit crashed and burned.
@@damianlopez9855 yep. He needs more villains. Blockbuster is cool and all but it doesn’t feel right. Personally, I think it’s because Blockbuster is a symbol for the corruption in Bludhaven, but that means that Nightwing is actually just fighting corruption. This is cool and all, but he really needs a villain to drive it forward. Take The Batman movie for example. The overarching conflict is Man vs Corruption, but the story is still so compelling due to Man vs Man (Batman vs Riddler), as it gives a very human touch to the overarching objective conflict that is corruption, which does not care for feelings. Nightwing’s foil (Batman’s villains) cannot just be corruption, because it isn’t human enough for us or Dick to connect with them. The human interactions in Nightwing have so far purely been carried by Dick and Barbara.
I loved how you acknowledged Detective Chimp as the best detective in the DC universe.
Isn’t Bruce second?
@@sheepdog5799 No, he’s the fucking first
@@ironbackplays7861 That's just a title given to him by notoriety alone. Tim Drake is already stated to be superior at Batman as a detective but Detective Chimp is undeniably #1.
@@drianb2989 I’m pretty sure Tim is only smarter
@@ironbackplays7861 Aye. Calm down. Detective Chimp is obviously superior
Nightwing is like the best well rounded character ever. He’s badass like Batman but jokes around like Spider-Man. He may not be the most skilled fighter, but he’s up there, he’s not the smartest, but he’s not an idiot, and he may not be better than Batman, but he can be just as good on occasions. And while Bruce Wayne struggles with relationships, Dick seems to excel at them for the most part. He’s a hero who loves to fight crime, but he desires a personal life as well, unlike Bruce who would be Batman 24/7 the rest of his life if he could. Nightwing is everything I want to be: strong, skilled, smart, dedicated, loyal, caring, and handsome.
Nightwing is as skilled as Batman, more intuitive than Batman, a better acrobat, and a better leader.
@@CRISIS_COMICS He is not a better leader. Batman literally leads the justice league and the bat family which includes Nightwing
@@CRISIS_COMICS Secondly, there is a reason Tom King is considered a shitty batman writer
@@brucew565 Doesn’t make a difference if it’s canon and consistent; which it is. Many other writers respect Nightwing.
@@brucew565 Why does that contradict Batman’s own statements about Nightwing’s leadership? Nightwing can just respect Batman as his former mentor even if he is a better leader himself, which is what’s been shown. We can debate here in a Voice Chat if you’re interested, otherwise I don’t care about text: discord.gg/NFD8TsvC
Just a quick reminder that Nightwing is basically Batmans greatest success and his vision of a “perfect” version of him.
Dick Grayson was always my favorite Robin and member of the Bat family, aside from Batman himself. As a hero, he managed to surpass his mentor as a leader and was able to carve out his own identity
Whilst Grayson Robin /NightWing was a great leader...the one with the most potential was Jason Todd/Red Hood. You gotta admit that Jason Todd was Brucie Boy's favourite sidekick....and he was clearly the most talented I mean he left NightWing gasping for breath and and a sprained ankle after on foot chase through the city alongside Batman who barley kept up.
And? He's Still part of the Bat-Family
In BATMAN : GOTHAM KNIGHTS
FYI any BATMAN game that has been made within the last decade and is going to be made within the next few years is cannon. Red Hood was a playable character with a story in Arkham Knight DLC he also is one of the GOTHAM KNIGHTS.
Every Robin should make his own identity
Never said to the Arkhamverse
It will be cannon though.... certified and approved by DC Comics and Warner Bros as is everything BATMAN related
Wally West thinks Nightwing is fast? If a speedster thinks that a normal human is fast then you better take that word as truth.
He's definitely underrated. He's the first side kick. He's been a hero since he was 8. He's on up par with batman honestly He's really strong. Which is the reason why he's my favorite in dc.
I feel like everyone underestimates Nightwing because of his Arkham Knight and the DCAU adaptations... they basically nerf him for the sake of not making Batman look less powerful, which is bullshit to me. Nightwing has been around long enough to learn everything and even more than Bruce. Because that is what students are supposed to do... they are supposed to surpass their masters overtime and who other than Dick To make that possible. Nightwing is on the same level and sometimes even better than Bruce. We have to remember that Dick not only has been training hard since he was a flying Grayson but also his full on 6 years as Robin. He literally took everything he learned and made it his own strong essence. I’m glad people like you are recognizing the true power of Dick Grayson. Everybody talks about waisted potential but nobody remembers Nightwing is the total opposite, he is an expanded potential and will ever be.
I’ve always hated the way the DCAU adaptions of multiple characters and honestly for me DCs better but Marvel r better at presenting there characters
Wally west is never presented as the fastest man alive, nightwing is always getting his bones broken by the likes of Harley quinn. Characters like: Martian manhunter, Dr fate, Captain Atom, Firestorm, Red robin, black lightning, static shock etc, just don’t exist. This is why marvel will never have the same media success because there shit at showing there characters in a likeable way
Yeah agreed. As a Batman fan, I don't see why some Batman fans feel like Dick having Batman-levels of skill is somehow disrespecting Batman ... especially when Bruce was the one who taught Dick everything he knew. Dick surpassing Batman in skill is actually an accomplishment for Bruce, probably one of the things he's most proud of.
@@critical_thinker0668 Nightwing is a clearer vision of what batman was meant to be batman's greatest success and his equal. I agree.
@@Bijuu223 The fact that I don't recognize several of those names just proves your point.
I think it’s a shame not to mention that Dick also has an extensive knowledge of most DC superheroes’ secret identity, which often makes him a bit of a target as Nightwing, and at the same time, he’s a good friend to almost every other hero.
I think the main reason Nightwing surpasses Batman, by his own admission, is that Nightwing can be what Batman can't. He's a well adjusted force for good. While batman is crippled by the loss of his parents, forever traumatized and broken, fighting crime as a way to atone and take revenge for his parents, Nightwing is none of those things. He lost his parents too, but unlike Batman, he was able to move past it, to grow from it. Where batman is cruel Grayson can be kind. Where batman is vengeful Grayson can be mercyful. Rather than vengeance, Grayson fights for justice, not as a way to cope, but because it's the right thing to do. When Wonder Woman asks Batman why he took Grayson under his wing, she says "why, so that he'll turn out like you?" To which Batman replies, "no, so that he doesn't." That's why Grayson can be the hero that Batman never could be, and why he's the perfect successor to take on the cowl.
“Wally West thinks this dude’s fast.”
That’s all I needed to hear I’m sold 🙌
Nightwing is hands down my favorite Bat Family member besides Batman himself. He’s easily the finest hand to hand fighter in comics.
he's not even top 20 lmao
He is not even close to being the finest hand to hand fighter
Nightwing kinda ballin out of control.
I absolutely love nightwing. It's such a shame that DC high ups seem to want to kill him off every other year. It feels like they are so afraid of him making Bruce look less impressive because Dick is just better. DC has really pressed in recent years on each sidekick having only 1 thing they can rival batman in. Jason has the brute strength and rage, Tim has the detective mindset, Damian has the lethal training and technique, and Dick has the battle tactician and corridination. But this is a super reductive mindset to see them all through because it inherently takes from their individuality. The core character ark of Dick is he doesn't want to be judged by the metric of batman, but be his own man. And that should go for all the others too!
This was so well-written!! I completely agree!!!
@@MYVOICESHALLBEHEARD lol. Thank you. It's something I remembered coming up in detective comics a lot with Tim and it has always made me mad
Nightwing can squat open an orcas mount mid close, and every single feat he has as batman were him limited because he had to fight like Bruce with the Cape(ie not actually going on instinct )
Dick Grayson has always been my favorite member of the bat family. I’ve also always thought he was the best agile fighter, combining his training as a flying Grayson with his training with Bruce. I also thought he was a better Batman for Damien, being the older brother Damien needed while not putting him on a pedestal like Bruce does with all members of the bat family
you should have a chat with the directors of the different DC tv shows and cartoons who for some reason always make Nightwing much weaker than he should be
Thank you for doing Nightwing some justice
Nightwing is the de facto leader of the superhero community in the DC universe
I feel so bad for Kyle Rayner. He was just asking such an innocent “would you rather” question, and Batman’s just like “Oh, you wouldn’t be able to use your power ring without your eyes you say? *Pulls out notepad*”
@@lolstalgic9602 I could be wrong but it would make the most sense if it was from JLA Tower of Babel
See, this is Nightwing. I really hate how weak they made him in the Son of Batman movie universe
Just saying, if the presence is omnipresent, nightwing can’t miss.
I just love how freaking high and far he can jump. Imagine him in the NBA.
this man broke this down at a ridiculous level. big props.
its kinda sad they dont show Nightwings true skill in beating serious villains such as DeathStroke and etc instead of showing him getting capped by those people. Also the fact that he can only take on goons and not actual villains, which hed normally need help with. I feel like in actuality Nightwing would dominate more people in a TV series which is more realistic, than people owning him in a fight or via intellect. Would be awesome to see a TV series dedicated to nightwing and Bloodhaven.
Where does he get capped by super villains or only beat regular goons?
@@CRISIS_COMICS any movie that has night wing in it. latest one i remember was a teen titans one with deathstroke having tera as a spy, don’t remember the name. deathstroke bullied nightwing and called him overrated
@@Kyouki353 you’re thinking about The Judas Contract. That’s the only one I can think of that has him as a primary character. I do like the Titans TV series, Dick is kind of the default lead but my gripe is he isn’t Nightwing enough or in costume enough. He’s also not quite as quippy in Titans.
I'm glad I found this channel and this video. Nightwing is hands-down my all-time favourite character and I ahve been looking for a proper analysis about him.
We gotta look back at bludhaven, and Dick Grayson's rivalry with Blockbuster. He showed his abilities to go solo, be agile, be a detective, know when to call for help, and work on his alter ego as a cop to further his abilities of a crime fighter. That was the best version in my humble opinion 😌. This is a sweet take to and I agree with what u said. Batman was a father figure for Nightwing so he always has that mental advantage as long as Nightwing allows it. I actually think Nightwing is less jaded and inherently smarter, but his confidence holds him back
Great work! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Completely agree with your analysis. Thanks for the comprehensive work. :)
You gotta remember, Batman was a regular person that essentially WILLED himself to become all the things he's achieved. Grayson, Jason, Tim, Damien, Cassie, Babs, Steph etc; were all chosen and trained by a person that through trial and error created the best possible path to becoming Batman or at least someone who rivals him.
Remember when Superman was talking about robins and he was smiling super big while talking about Dick but just sorta went “oh yeah, he’s good too” when he was talking about Jason?
"The kid pulled a ME." That is golden.
Love your style of content brother
One of the things I've come to like about the relationship between Bruce Wayne and Richard John Grayson is Bruce's realistic realization that Dick IS what Bruce would LIKE to be. Bruce has been neither fully sane nor fully functional since the night he lost his parents, whereas Dick somehow has managed to fight his way back to full functionality. He didn't close himself off from others to nearly the degree that Bruce has done, and has derived benefits from these relationships that have brought him forward in ways that Bruce has foregone. Add that to his clear physical superiority and it seems inevitable that he would one day outstrip his mentor. Indeed, I would say that the Batman has been looking forward to seeing this potential realized. He could take down Ra's al Ghul, Darkseid of Apokolips and Vandal Savage by himself in one day, and still say that his greatest accomplishment was not that but rearing and training Dick Grayson.
There was a crossover between the Teen Titans and the first iteration of the Batman's Outsiders where the two teams faced down the gathered-together Masters of Disaster and the Fatal Five. When it came down to make the final plan, the Batman started issuing orders, but Dick -- still Robin at this point -- shut the Batman down post-haste and made and implemented his OWN plan. His plan went off like clockwork in the manner that the Batman's so often did when it was just himself and Dick. I think that was the first time that the Batman got to see REALLY who he'd reared. I always thought that he might have been miffed at first, but came around when he saw and heard Robin getting to work. If Robin had made mistakes, the Batman could have said something, but he held his tongue; the plan had no flaws to talk about. He was probably very gratified at seeing how well his own people responded to the orders given by his oldest son.
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I think in order for him to really become a popular hero, he needs a really memorable rogues gallery
Batman’s death opens up that possibility. I’ve always liked nightwing and deathstoke being opposites. Like joker and Batman. Dick Grayson is the perfect Batman. I hope he’s the kid in the Batman movie and by the 3rd film becoming robin.
He has so much potential, he can become Gotham’s best hero and leader of the justice league
he already has some good ones but yeah he needs to get more villains that aren’t some one off gimmicks or hand me downs from gotham.
concerning Nichgtwings danger sense and stealth, there is a good explanation for why he has it in a way barbara or the flash would not have it. Batsy is an abusive parent and his several stalkers do not improve the situation. He learned very early that he always needs to wait for the other shoe to drop, when to interwene to shield his siblings from Batsy, when he needs to be quiet or act as a distraction . . . he was more of an emotional support to batsy growing up, than batsy was one for him
batman isn’t abusive. he may have been blunt or harsh but was never outright abusive to his robins/children.
Young Justice made me really like Nightwing.
I'm laughing because Dick has straight up beat Bruce in combat. He has also been canonically called "the better Batman" because he is actually willing to cooperate and to listen to people.
Dick >>>> Bruce
Great video
Amazing video!!!!.. Nightwing is very underrated. Glad you analyzed and highlighted how great of a character and hero he really is for sure.. Nightwing!!!!.. 🙏🏽🦁☀️🔥
14:52 okay, Dick with the blue bat is awesome!
It is utterly Depressing that Nightwing is essentially one of the Most Beloved and Successful Comic Book Characters....
Yet still in that Sweet Spot where he's somehow never been done right in an Adaptation or had a show of his own.
Nice one man, please do legends luke
Great vid. Nightwing is underrated.
15:06 this reminds me of the young justice scenes where the guy disappeared
Deatstroke once said that dickens skills were near meta human…
You are a respectful man thank you.
Pin me never mind
You literally caught me saying Detective Chimp!
Great video.
You should definitely do one of these for Jason Todd! I think he’s been under Nightwings shadow for a bit and been looked down on because of that
I have a video regarding Red Hood VS Nightwing on this channel
Your videos are always so good! I love Nightwing as a character and appreciate your detailed breakdown. It helps make the DC universe more cohesive as I read more and more comics!
There are a few holes in this argument, mostly in terms of narrative statements. That being said any real Batman fan has nothing but the utmost respect for nightwing and they know just how much of an equal Bruce considers him and that he has earned every ounce of recognition and praise he has been given.
Awesome. Now do one for Tim Drake!
Love you bruh
I love how the show "titans" portrays nightwings weapons having the electrocution tips on the end of his batons! Nightwing is such an underrated character and deserves more love! The show does an amazing job of showing him being a great detective too...idk if you can tell but I really like the "titans" show!
How old are you
@@joemomma5016 .....um.....35.....why?....
@@nickwierenga987 I don’t know I’ve heard a lot of bad things about the show Never watched it myself but just figured I would get your age
@@nickwierenga987 ruclips.net/video/okS3niy02zA/видео.html here’s a video explaining why it’s the worse show ever lol
@@joemomma5016 ah...people hate on the show because it's not the "teen titans" cartoon and it's not exactly what happens in the comics...yes nightwing murders criminals but no one ever mentions that it's part of his character arc to grow and realize what being Batmans side kick can do to someone especially starting as a child...there are obviously little things that could be better the finally of season 1 isn't until the beginning of season 2 which was a dumb choice, I don't like how starfire is portrayed as this Mary sue, I am women hear me roar type character, but again those are personal issues but over all I would say check out first season if your not into it by the end of episode 3 ur probably not going to like it
Fucking THANK YOU! More TV and movie writers need to put more respect on my man Grayson's name!
It might be neat to get a video like this for Joker.
Awesome video can you do one for red hood
I agree with ur points stated in the video, but I don’t think it’s worth arguing about who’s better. I’ve always respected nightwing and batman respectably for they offer. Both characters have things that make them amazing and pop culture icons while still being very similar yet different. Batman is my favorite superhero btw, but I enjoy the different perspective all together.
Yooo I loved it
Richard has always been a protégé as well great leader, brother, friend an all out leader
4:54 is from Superman: Lois and Clark issue #5. Post crisis superman is not talking about Nightwing but new 52 Superman.
Yes. That's what I said. The point is that N52 Batman = PC Batman and N52 Nightwing scales to N52 Batman.
Shouldve put some game clips from the arkham series or from the titans tv show. But great video though, loved it
I did use clips from Titans…
I absolutely love Dick Grayson. Any version of him is fantastic (not counting Rick Grayson) as an agent of spiral he absolutely could embarrass Batman in a fight. Batman struggles fighting Helena Wayne and so does Grayson at first but by the end he matches maybe even out matches even her.
Nightwing in very good and for a long time was one of my favorite characters in all of DC but in most iterations of both Nightwing and batman; Nightwing is not coming out on top especially if both were fighting with everything they had. Nightwing is very close to Batman in certain catagories and surpasses him in others but for the most part Batman especially in terms of Skill and sheer technique is the superior. Nightwing is faster and more agile in certain areas but compared to Batman that isn't enough. In certain iterations Lady Shivs herself comments she wouldn't want to fight him. Deathstroke at times says the same. Not once have I read something that lady Shiva especially says that about Nightwing. The list goes on and on but I'm honestly a fan of both and love both characters.
Characters improve over time, and right now Nightwing is equal to Batman.
I'm aware that's for almost anything but equals no. Nightwing is near equal to Batman yes but if they fought all out Batman taking most wins of them wins in most iterations of them even in the video games. Like I said Nightwing is superior in certain things or more well versed but overall I don't think so.
Deathstroke>Batman. Nightwing beat deathstroke, therefore Nightwing>batman
@@kuzuriagatsu1907by all means they’re equals now, i don’t think dc would be pushing him so much if that weren’t the case.
Awesome video nightwing is the best 💯👍
It makes so much sense that night wing is an improved Batman basically
Nightwing is Batmans contingency plan for himself, if he even needs to be taken out!
PLEASE DO JASON TODD ‼️
I'm curious about your thoughts on Dick Grayson's relationship with his Robin brothers.
"the kid pulled a ME" i fucking love that sentence
I would like to dive deeper into the comics of Nightwing, are there any suggestions on how to approach everything Dicl Grayson?
Tom taylor run, batman eternal, dixon run
I’d suggest reading the original 1980’s run of Titans, that’s where Dick becomes Nightwing.
Imo nightwing is a better fighter than batman. He’s not stronger, he’s not smarter, he’s not got better gadgets. But he is a better fighter
Can't really be an opinion if it's just outright wrong Bruce is more skilled the Nightwing but he isn't that far behind
We need some Nightwing animated series man
The fact he pulled a Batman on Batman is the moment I considered him worthy of the cowl.
When Gotham Knights comes out I'll probably play as nightwing the most out of the four characters
Going to have to read the new52 now
Nightwing is definitely one of the best DC characters and Bruce’s superior, hope he gets a big shine one day and even a good solo movie. I also really do wanna see him in a live action movie with Batman as well one day. A live action batfamily movie would be so cool tbh
Imagine a standalone nightwing game taking place in bloodhaven in the Arkham verse between the events of city and knight
Would you ever do a “how powerful is Delsin Rowe?”
That'd be so good
Nightwing is just straight up a better hand to hand combatant than Batman. He's an Olympic level athlete. He's younger, faster, more skilled. Dick beats Bruce had to hand every time. Bruce's gadgets is what would give him an edge in an actual fight.
He's only beaten Bruce 1 time every single time they have fought Bruce has won
@@solen5529 Every single other time they were sparring while Dick was Robin. That fight is important because it was the first time they fought eachother to the end. And Dick won. Because he's a better fighter.
@@solen5529 thank you for saying this.
This guy is my absolute favorite from all of the DC vigilantes , I love how acrobatic and fast he is , dick Grayson is absolute favorite , I like him more than Batman by far
Nightwing has uni+ scaling from Red Hood who tanked full power sword swings from Supergirl using Wonderwoman’s sword
Can WE have this kind of vidéo but with deathstroke ? Because he IS Kinda inconsistant
When you said "Detective Chimp" was like "SORCERY!!"
Is it just me or do I fangirl for Nightwing?
I fanboy a lil bit
for context, when nightwing beat batman, he started from an increadable disadvantage with just haing woken up from a coma, not wanting that fight, being compleatly of balance due to the trauma of his last memory being dying only to wake up to his father figure attacking him verbally and physically and in addition Batsy wears his gloves! if they started that on an even playfield . . . .nothing was fair about that fight and nightwing won anyway.
Do one on red hood
I think trying to give martial artists in DC a concrete rating is pointless, since who can beat whom is entirely up to the needs of the plot and the writer's favourite characters. I think it's much more useful to group them in tiers, where characters in one tier will nearly always beat characters in a lower tier, but within a tier there's no way to really rank them.
So, top tier in DC would be the best of the best, which would include Bronze Tiger, O Sensei, Cassandra Cain, Richard Dragon, Lady Shiva, and Karate Kid. They have levels of martial arts which are effectively superpowers; Karate Kid beat Silver Age Superboy, for example, at a time when Kryptonians could blow stars around with their _breath,_ and he could go toe to toe with Validus, who could take on multiple Kryptonian-strength heroes like Ultra Boy and Mon-El at the same time.
The next tier down would be the Batman-class martial artists, whose abilities put them at the very peak of human ability, but whose skills aren't on the level of superpowers which lets them beat up Kryptonians with their bare hands. This would include Nightwing, Damian, Black Canary, Deathstroke, Bane, Kobra, Prometheus, Wildcat, and of course Batman himself.
Below that you have slightly less skilled martial artists who might take a Batman-class martial artist on a good day, with the right plot armour, but aren't really up to performing regularly on that level, although they're still immensely more skilled than even world class MMA fighters in the real world. There's a lot more of these guys, and include characters like Green Arrow, Mr. Terrific, Ra's Al-Ghul and his daughter Talia, Catwoman, Jason Todd, Red Robin, Harley Quinn, Timber Wolf, Guy Gardner, The Question, and many more.
Richard dragon 🐉 bronze tiger 🐅 and karate kid are the most underused characters in dc comics.
Great video, while I don't agree with everything you said. I still think Nightwing is the strongest Robin and could definitely contend with or even beat somebody like Batman, Captain America, Deathstroke, or Wolverine. If you wouldn't mind, please do how powerful is Legends Grandmaster Luke Skywalker.
You should know Nightwing has never beaten Deathstroke on his own one on one I love Nightwing he’s my favorite dc character all time but this is a fact ion wanna argue but it’s true just look it up drathstrokes stats considering he’s a super soldier as skilled as Nightwing is Even Batman can just barely if not rarely beat him on his own but honestly he’s a titans villain if Dick could one shot him then it would diminish DS rep and he wouldn’t really be a titans villain if one of them can take him instead of as a team
@@kordellpurnell6207 That makes 0 sense since most of the titans are less intelligent, less skilled, less strategical superheroes, not weak by any means but they just lack.
Nightwing and Deathstroke are basically one of the same, powerless but they make up for it through sheer hard work and determination, intelligence and their skills.
I’m no writer but from a great story’s pov, I’d say it makes sense if the others hold him back and he’s the only one who could match him alone, at least when he’s supposed to be Nightwing, the evolved leader of the teen titans, Robin.
Maybe not as Robin though…
Not to bring up a dead beauty, but the 2004 teen Titans show did their power scaling too well…
He’s lost all his fights with him until the team came and out-powered DS, but it’s implied they’re definitely equals when he becomes Nightwing.
@@Artryom I wanna believe tht truly but thy won’t show it in the comics especially since it would have to be circumstance for NW to win since Deathstroke always completes his contracts never failed a single one he can use 20% of his brain power not to mention this guy took on the entire JLA like I said I love NW but DC always makes him OP especially scaled to NW teen Titans did him right so did Young Justice other than tht other animated iterations treat our boi like trash when this guy is supposed to be Batman’s golden boy the heir to the mantle Batman’s equal if not better
this dude spitting but its sad red hood slaps you love to see it
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though tim drake is my favorite Robin, I think everybody has to but see respect on the OG 🤘🏻
The point of slade beating batman was that he was advanced, Bruce had just preformed something that would fuck up a normal human guaranteed, slade even said it was impressive how dangerous Bruce still was without enhancements
Literally my favorite hero
I was with him through new 52, I stuck with him through that whole spiral phase and kept up on rebirth. I was livid when they turned him into "Ric"
Infact I have most of the Nightwing comics from New 52 up to the beginning of rebirth even got rebirth issue #14 signed by one of the artists.
Really cool, bro!