@@ReversibleraincoatNevermind 2:35 in and it’s a very poor start… How can you be a Sam Harris listener and write an email that starts that way… I don’t understand.
Sam is one of few truly independent thinkers/voices. He cannot and wil not be audience captured because he doesn’t need that as he has enough resources to live from and because he is so principled. We should cherish voices like him! Love u sam
@@karagi101 How could you possibly ascertain that? He’s a moral relativist, his “morals” boil down to his preferences. Don’t Sam Harris viewers see themselves as enlightened intellectuals? But your response was something a 12 year old would say.
@@sixpackchad Really? All you said is he has no morals. You didn’t offer anything to back your claim. Morals aren’t based on his preferences. They are based on what we’ve learned brings the most common good to humanity. They are not absolute. They change over time as we learn what is more beneficial to humanity. At one time a lot of things were considered objective morals which we now would consider anything but moral. They also are relative due to particular situations. For example, almost all of us believe it is morally wrong to kill an innocent person. What if there was a scenario where if you didn’t kill one innocent person then 20 other innocent people would die? What’s the moral thing to do? Stick to the objective moral of never killing?
@@karagi101 “They(morals) are not absolute.” Why? Because you and Sam Harris say so? You’re literally making my argument for me in your attempt at a counter argument.
27:46 I think Sam may be underestimating just how much the GOP can bend reality for their followers….expecting them to take accountability for the whatever may happen over the next 4 years is fairly bold imo.
Agreed. They will manage to blame any problem or catastrophe that results directly from their policies and behavior on the Dems/ libs. No matter how patently absurd it might be, they’ll contrive a narrative to place blame and we the sane will all watch in amazement as the media promulgates and amplifies and it becomes the conventional wisdom.
It has to be longer. Likely, nothing horrible will happen in the span of four years. All the repercussions will be further down the line. If Democrats win the next election, they will be blamed for anything that goes wrong.
He was wearing it during the Club Random podcast with Bill Maher, which I believe is more recent than this interview. Also, at the end of the Club Random, Sam revealed it to be an Oura ring; I would guess he is using Oura ring as a substitute for his wedding ring.
@@yevmestennis Hey, thanks for that, nice bit of detective work. And I didn't realise Sam had done a more recent Club Random with Bill Maher, so that gives me something else to watch. Thanks again.
Not deleting your account is the equivalent of hopes and prayers. You need to make them feel it by deleting your account. Advertisers will see this bleeding of users and start to move away from the platform but if you dont delete your account its just hopes and prayers and we all know how much good that does.
Great interview, but why on earth was the QnA omitted? I, for one, was very much looking forward to hearing from the "very smart audience". Otherwise a good conversation, and also: I'd highly recommend that you isolate/export/post in a separate shorter clip the bit where Sam talks about Rogan, as he hasn't quite been as comprehensive elsewhere as he is here regarding his opinion, and it's something I'm sure many would be interested to hear/see, ie would go viral.
Thanks for your tips. For the Q&A the reason is to keep the privacy of the audience members asking. Lunch With Jamie is a membership community that has existed for a few years that we have recently decided to share the conversations publicly. The audience members in person and on zoom are the only ones to be able to participate in the Q & A, so for the time being those will stay private. That might change in the future. And than you for the suggestion on the shorter clips. I will release the Rogan one asap. Please keep the comments coming.
@with-jamie thanks for the reply and explanation - makes sense, and glad to get a context. S'great you decided to otherwise share the conversations publicly. Very pleased you'll post the Rogan clip separately and'll be most curious to follow its journey through the tube'd universe.
Economic and historical justice is not "unfair in a new way" as Sam says here - 5:20 I usually agree with Sam and feel like I always at least see his point, but I don't understand what he is thinking here, except that I do agree that the current methods of being "unfair in a new way" have gotten corrupted and do not serve the purpose they were intended for. I think the solution involved a hybrid between actually enforcing the real rule of law fairly, and a new social contract because at some point soon the people who own the so-called "means of production", which means the capitalists who own factories, farms and rent producing businesses will own everything and labor rates will be so low as to impoverish 99% of the population and constantly squeezing them and dehumanizing them towards a civilization of dehumanizing abomination.
Great points, I would only object to one thing by saying that the real rule of law cannot be enforce fairly because it isn't fair and the institutions are corrupt. I'm not sure what fair would look like, but more and more I'm coming to the sense that you can't take down the master's house by using the master's tools, whether that's capital or legislation.
i think another silver lining to Trump being elected is that we aren’t stuck with Kamala Harris running for 8 years, and the democrats will have to come up with a good candidate in three years time
I really like Sam, but he is plain wrong on this belief that Tr💩🍊p didn’t say, “there were very fine ppl.. on many sides, on many sides” in the 50:30 part of the video. Second time I’ve heard Sam be confidently wrong about this.
@@hopechangesht6020 This is old debunked news. And most of the country is aware of this... The constant lies about trump really did the dems in at the end. They'll continue to lose with that method. It just doesn't work anymore.
“Benefits of more women in executive positions “. They are…outside if the equity equation? Are such companies more successful and, if so, under what metrics? I don’t know and am merely asking. I presume getting to pick from the other 50% has its benefits and advantages. Provided it is merit based and not a DEI numbers game. But the mere statement does not of itself mean it’s a plus on. The success measure.
i like Sam but he has some holes in his thinking. The whole issue for the hard left is that racism (which is just one issue) is institutionalized - and people themselves may not be racist - but they are blind to the remaining institutional racism - just like they are blind to their "priviledge". Now I don't believe this - or rather think it explains at most 10-20% of what is going on. That is just one critique. Sam - like a lot of people like Peterson and others - is very knowledge in his core areas - but not in others.
Where is the racism? Hiring people and promoting based on competency and merit? Where’s the evidence for systemic racism? If anything, there is reverse racism where people are hired based on race. And what about privilege? We are all born with strengths and weaknesses. Some of it is hereditary. Some is based on where you are born. Who your parents are. The quality of your schooling… etc. That will always be true. As long as the opportunities are fair and people are treated equal in terms of character and abilities there’s nothing else needed other than some social programs and wealth redistribution via our tax system.
This might be my favorite comment. I host a bi weekly members only online conversation. This was a live in person event and it was held at Genghis Cohen in Los Angeles. No more to it.
Sam Harris, one of the only truly public intellectuals who call out the insanity of identity politics, without becoming a raving right-wing lunatic (aka Jordan Peterson)
❤I love the SH school for reminding us of the intractable value of 'how to think' (as opposed to the moralizing dems who would tell us what to think). His intelligence is incorruptible, even if I disagree with many opinions. The tech going to DJT phenomena seems analogous to the Dem's current "blanket pardons in advance" quandary. Both sides show terrible fear of DJT's rabidness. Still, it sometimes almost seems to surprise DJT that he's having this impact - the anticipatory anxiety is probably making things worse than they need to be. SH is asked to do too much of the same intellectual labour on his political stance. It would be great to ask him to reflect on his thoughts on Tucker Carlson, Vought, the rise of Christian Nationalism into the authoritarian conversation, etc., to advance the ideas to the reasonable intuitions of where we are now. I strongly, strongly, strongly disagree that Shapiro is a future for the Democrats. Quite recently, he committed political suicide. This may be spun for and within the party and wealthy donors, but it would be a mistake-the people won't forget it-and neither will the opposition, which is far more comfortable with the ruthless.
I agree. I've read all of Sam's books and seen him speak several times, but his politics are nostalgic, status quo, neo-liberal hogwash. I'm not surprised he's a fan of Shapiro.
@@thainesmith Ya, I'm so off Shapiro. The dems were handed an opportunity to remind us who they're for but in that moment his portfolio showed us who he is for. I doubt SH is a Sanders or AOC person, but if he is a Shapiro person, I might want to feign blindness/deafness for the sake of honouring a thoughtful hero. lol.
Identity politics being such a factor is idiotic. What really makes a difference in your life? Identity politics or health care costs, salary, environmental, etc.?
Liz Cheney is not a hero. What her father did in Iraq was utterly horrific. If these are your hero's, your villains will always seem rational and charming by comparison.
Sam says "there's an appetite for populism", which is a strange near miss from somebody who used to be sort of an iconoclast. The appetite on the right and the left is not for populism per se, it is for representation and a shot at a decent life in the face of the increasing corporatization of what was already, since its inception, an oligarchy of the ultra-wealthy.
I totally disagree with Sam on the Subway guy ... at least for me - the skin color of either side makes absolutely no difference. I am classic FDR Liberal.
@@magicalfrijoles6766 Why do you ask? What difference does that make? Some do, and some don't. There is nothing that agrees with me or disagrees with me 100%. What bothers me is the failure for people to differentiate and the preference for taking sides which I think leads to the wide statistical tails and the lunacy on both sides - and usually over trivial issues. The world and our country is in real problems - whether or not our economy is doing well - according to Democrats, or poorly according to Republicans. But at least currently it is Republicans that fail to accept real numbers and make real arguments on that issue.
@@stephenschneider4221 Wait for what? There are times that skin color or historic injustice matters and there are times it does not. By ignoring it Sam misses the point. I get that he is trying to still fit with the anti-woke crowd, which I do to, but I think sometimes he gets to doctrinaire about it and goes too far or does not consider his analogies enough.
Nonsense. Martin Luther King's mantra, that we judge people on their actions and not their skin colour, is as great a repudiation of identity politics as there could be
@ MLK was against racism and politics based solely on racial identity, but all people’s interests arise from the way they (and society) identify themselves. Race, religion, nationality, socioeconomic class, gender, sexual preference, age, geographical location, etc It’s more complex than right wingers have the capacity to understand.
@@godisbollocksMLK advocated for affirmative action. A policy which Sam Harris uses as an example of why it would be acceptable to discriminate against a Black surgeon
@jmc5335 Seriously? You think Harris is a conservative? You're talking to someone who has been a fan of his since 2006 and has read and re-read 5 of his books. Watched countless lectures, podcast episodes, and political debates over nearly two decades. Harris has slammed Trump and the MAGA movement harder than virtually any public figure of renown. Your flawed fly-by-night evaluation of his political leanings won't wash here. Basic-b***h political musings at their most rococo.
fine people hoax hoax. nooooooooo sam. one or two mentions are forgivable. the fact that you keep bringing it up without reading about it is lazy at best
The Democrats never found themselves a leader they'd follow over a cliff with cult-like servility. The Republicans are there, and have been there for going on 9 years.
Trump is an unprecedented threat to the nation and republicans pretend he isn’t so they can retain power. If Biden pulled Jan 6 or refused to invite Trump to the white house you people would start a war. You use kid gloves for Trump. The Republican Party is the party of the unsophisticated and the uneducated 😊
Sam Harris blames cultural issues and weird academic anecdotes for Trump’s victory. He is basically saying Trump is right about his fear mongering of “the left”. His thoughts on this are incoherent and unhelpful. I wish he would exit the discourse and vote republican in private. Trump is a far right character who people cheer for because of how extreme his rhetoric is. We need the same energy on the left to fight back. A loud and proud progressive and populist who stands up to power
Sam conflates race with skin colour. People don’t treat racial differences like hair colour differences because race isn’t simply an aesthetic feature.
@ skin colour is superficial, but race (or more accurately ethnicity) is far too highly correlated with culture to be superficial, and culture is behavioural.
@@joelharvey I think race is only circumstantially correlated with culture. Hence why a child born of ethnic Nigerians who grows up in a British culture via adoption is 100% Indistinguishable from a generational Briton.
@@DrewdrewdrewdrIt can be a deep fundamental difference. Isn't that how some diseases are more prominent in different races and not others? Races have different skeletal and muscular differences. If those things can be different, do we think the brain was exempt from these evolutionary differences?
Why don't you point out examples where Sam blamed Trump for things that he had nothing to do with? I'm sure people would be receptive if you gave an example.
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Sam is the most consistent public intellectual in the last 10 years
💯
25 years
Consistent TDS.
Consistently wrong that’s true.
@@nikola920you’re in a cult
love Sam Harris!
you cannot compel me to.
@ 😂
Me too.
@@jamesthecatyou can lead a horse to water but....
Love that Trump ate his Brain.
Great job getting Sam Harris on your show!
ALWAYS, the smartest guy in the room. Love Sam.
He needs to go into some different rooms, I don't think he's left his house that frequently since covid😊
What a great guest! Huge props for getting one of the biggest fishes
Fantastic conversation thanks guys.
Sam is simply fantastic! Love this guy!! Democrats - listen to Sam!!
Yet so many 'progressives' hate him. They're triggered by logic and clear thinking.
If only all thinkers had the clarity of mind and eloquence that Sam had.
Thanks man. Chapters would be awesome.
Thank you for the suggestion. We will work on that.
@@with-jamie lack of wokery would also be appreciated
@@Reversibleraincoatwhat wokery ?
@@ReversibleraincoatNevermind 2:35 in and it’s a very poor start… How can you be a Sam Harris listener and write an email that starts that way… I don’t understand.
Sam Harris gets a lot of heat for telling the truth. He has resilience.
He was smart enough to be independently funded. Doesn’t need a huge number of followers or the need to please anyone.
Sam is one of few truly independent thinkers/voices. He cannot and wil not be audience captured because he doesn’t need that as he has enough resources to live from and because he is so principled. We should cherish voices like him! Love u sam
Can we get the q&a part?
Sam Harris is common sense. Very rarely do I agree with every issue that a person presents. Sam is one.
That comparison he made of the Democratic Party using identity politics to play the most depressing version of Dungeons and Dragons was so good haha
The #1 public intellectual. His level headed logic and morals are a breath of fresh air in this dystopian world of misinformation and bs.
He doesn’t have morals though.
@ He has more morals in his pinky than you have in your entirety.
@@karagi101 How could you possibly ascertain that? He’s a moral relativist, his “morals” boil down to his preferences. Don’t Sam Harris viewers see themselves as enlightened intellectuals? But your response was something a 12 year old would say.
@@sixpackchad Really? All you said is he has no morals. You didn’t offer anything to back your claim.
Morals aren’t based on his preferences. They are based on what we’ve learned brings the most common good to humanity.
They are not absolute. They change over time as we learn what is more beneficial to humanity.
At one time a lot of things were considered objective morals which we now would consider anything but moral.
They also are relative due to particular situations.
For example, almost all of us believe it is morally wrong to kill an innocent person.
What if there was a scenario where if you didn’t kill one innocent person then 20 other innocent people would die?
What’s the moral thing to do? Stick to the objective moral of never killing?
@@karagi101 “They(morals) are not absolute.” Why? Because you and Sam Harris say so? You’re literally making my argument for me in your attempt at a counter argument.
27:46 I think Sam may be underestimating just how much the GOP can bend reality for their followers….expecting them to take accountability for the whatever may happen over the next 4 years is fairly bold imo.
Donald Trump increased the debt faster than any President in history and they've all conveniently forgotten about it when looking at inflation.
Agreed. They will manage to blame any problem or catastrophe that results directly from their policies and behavior on the Dems/ libs. No matter how patently absurd it might be, they’ll contrive a narrative to place blame and we the sane will all watch in amazement as the media promulgates and amplifies and it becomes the conventional wisdom.
Exactly right, Allen!
@magicalfrijoles6766 What is the link between debt and inflation?
It has to be longer. Likely, nothing horrible will happen in the span of four years. All the repercussions will be further down the line.
If Democrats win the next election, they will be blamed for anything that goes wrong.
Anybody else notice that Sam isn't wearing his wedding ring? Is there information about that?
He doesn't want to be identified as married. 😂
@philipk9783 Sam's wedding ring (a rather unusual black band) has been visible on his finger for years. But on this video, it's missing.
sam i live in the netherlands and am dtf
He was wearing it during the Club Random podcast with Bill Maher, which I believe is more recent than this interview. Also, at the end of the Club Random, Sam revealed it to be an Oura ring; I would guess he is using Oura ring as a substitute for his wedding ring.
@@yevmestennis Hey, thanks for that, nice bit of detective work. And I didn't realise Sam had done a more recent Club Random with Bill Maher, so that gives me something else to watch. Thanks again.
Bad algorithm for not showing this to me! Bad!
Right! I watch all Sam does on RUclips and this didn’t come up.
Go Sam 💪👏
Sam as usual always on target live in the present.
I’d campaign for Mitt Romney at this point….hilarious!
Sammy!! ❤❤
Not deleting your account is the equivalent of hopes and prayers. You need to make them feel it by deleting your account. Advertisers will see this bleeding of users and start to move away from the platform but if you dont delete your account its just hopes and prayers and we all know how much good that does.
Great interview, but why on earth was the QnA omitted? I, for one, was very much looking forward to hearing from the "very smart audience". Otherwise a good conversation, and also: I'd highly recommend that you isolate/export/post in a separate shorter clip the bit where Sam talks about Rogan, as he hasn't quite been as comprehensive elsewhere as he is here regarding his opinion, and it's something I'm sure many would be interested to hear/see, ie would go viral.
Agreed! And it seems like having a clip go viral is like the lifeblood of any new channel
@@XinwylFumudaiski hear hear!
@@PhenomenalWorld most likely behind a pay wall like most other podcasts but idk for sure
Thanks for your tips. For the Q&A the reason is to keep the privacy of the audience members asking. Lunch With Jamie is a membership community that has existed for a few years that we have recently decided to share the conversations publicly. The audience members in person and on zoom are the only ones to be able to participate in the Q & A, so for the time being those will stay private. That might change in the future. And than you for the suggestion on the shorter clips. I will release the Rogan one asap. Please keep the comments coming.
@with-jamie thanks for the reply and explanation - makes sense, and glad to get a context. S'great you decided to otherwise share the conversations publicly. Very pleased you'll post the Rogan clip separately and'll be most curious to follow its journey through the tube'd universe.
were the questions so dumb that you cut that part out?
*For someone who so strongly feels society should stop talking about identity politics, Sam sure seems to talk about it a lot.*
Can't escape it
Sam is my guru 🫶
He doesn’t want to be your (or anyone’s) guru.
As long as you don’t believe everything blindly. That’s the last thing Sam would want from anyone.
Economic and historical justice is not "unfair in a new way" as Sam says here - 5:20
I usually agree with Sam and feel like I always at least see his point, but I don't understand what he is thinking here, except that I do agree that the current methods of being "unfair in a new way" have gotten corrupted and do not serve the purpose they were intended for.
I think the solution involved a hybrid between actually enforcing the real rule of law fairly, and a new social contract because at some point soon the people who own the so-called "means of production", which means the capitalists who own factories, farms and rent producing businesses will own everything and labor rates will be so low as to impoverish 99% of the population and constantly squeezing them and dehumanizing them towards a civilization of dehumanizing abomination.
Great points, I would only object to one thing by saying that the real rule of law cannot be enforce fairly because it isn't fair and the institutions are corrupt. I'm not sure what fair would look like, but more and more I'm coming to the sense that you can't take down the master's house by using the master's tools, whether that's capital or legislation.
I love Ben Stiller!
How does a person with 207 subscribers get Sam Harris, damn
New channel. That’s why. He now had another heavy weight on: Jonathon Haidt!
Must be a well known guy outside RUclips.
Is that Jamie? Joe Rogans minion? Good to see him take centre stage
i think another silver lining to Trump being elected is that we aren’t stuck with Kamala Harris running for 8 years, and the democrats will have to come up with a good candidate in three years time
I really like Sam, but he is plain wrong on this belief that Tr💩🍊p didn’t say, “there were very fine ppl.. on many sides, on many sides” in the 50:30 part of the video.
Second time I’ve heard Sam be confidently wrong about this.
Please watch the video of Trump again. You are incorrect.
@@hopechangesht6020 This is old debunked news. And most of the country is aware of this... The constant lies about trump really did the dems in at the end. They'll continue to lose with that method. It just doesn't work anymore.
“Benefits of more women in executive positions “. They are…outside if the equity equation? Are such companies more successful and, if so, under what metrics? I don’t know and am merely asking. I presume getting to pick from the other 50% has its benefits and advantages. Provided it is merit based and not a DEI numbers game. But the mere statement does not of itself mean it’s a plus on. The success measure.
Practice of neurological relativism can help understand paradoxes inherent in identity, race, and gender. My 5c.
i like Sam but he has some holes in his thinking. The whole issue for the hard left is that racism (which is just one issue) is institutionalized - and people themselves may not be racist - but they are blind to the remaining institutional racism - just like they are blind to their "priviledge". Now I don't believe this - or rather think it explains at most 10-20% of what is going on. That is just one critique. Sam - like a lot of people like Peterson and others - is very knowledge in his core areas - but not in others.
Where is the racism? Hiring people and promoting based on competency and merit? Where’s the evidence for systemic racism? If anything, there is reverse racism where people are hired based on race.
And what about privilege? We are all born with strengths and weaknesses. Some of it is hereditary. Some is based on where you are born. Who your parents are. The quality of your schooling… etc. That will always be true. As long as the opportunities are fair and people are treated equal in terms of character and abilities there’s nothing else needed other than some social programs and wealth redistribution via our tax system.
Being a free critical thinker means you will offend everyone in some way…
I'm confused... why is Sam Harris sitting in a Chinese restauant on a podcast? How does this happen?
This might be my favorite comment. I host a bi weekly members only online conversation. This was a live in person event and it was held at Genghis Cohen in Los Angeles. No more to it.
❤
Chapters please
Just added them
A 1% margin in winning is NOT a decisive win! WTH?😮
Two pseudo intellectuals.
Sam Harris, one of the only truly public intellectuals who call out the insanity of identity politics, without becoming a raving right-wing lunatic (aka Jordan Peterson)
❤I love the SH school for reminding us of the intractable value of 'how to think' (as opposed to the moralizing dems who would tell us what to think). His intelligence is incorruptible, even if I disagree with many opinions. The tech going to DJT phenomena seems analogous to the Dem's current "blanket pardons in advance" quandary. Both sides show terrible fear of DJT's rabidness. Still, it sometimes almost seems to surprise DJT that he's having this impact - the anticipatory anxiety is probably making things worse than they need to be.
SH is asked to do too much of the same intellectual labour on his political stance. It would be great to ask him to reflect on his thoughts on Tucker Carlson, Vought, the rise of Christian Nationalism into the authoritarian conversation, etc., to advance the ideas to the reasonable intuitions of where we are now.
I strongly, strongly, strongly disagree that Shapiro is a future for the Democrats. Quite recently, he committed political suicide. This may be spun for and within the party and wealthy donors, but it would be a mistake-the people won't forget it-and neither will the opposition, which is far more comfortable with the ruthless.
I agree. I've read all of Sam's books and seen him speak several times, but his politics are nostalgic, status quo, neo-liberal hogwash. I'm not surprised he's a fan of Shapiro.
@@thainesmith Is SH a Shapiro fan? I didn't pick that up...
@@thecommongood3914 Sorry, my mistake. Sam didn't mention him--the host, Jamie, said at 29:00 that he had Shapiro on the show.
@@thainesmith Ya, I'm so off Shapiro. The dems were handed an opportunity to remind us who they're for but in that moment his portfolio showed us who he is for. I doubt SH is a Sanders or AOC person, but if he is a Shapiro person, I might want to feign blindness/deafness for the sake of honouring a thoughtful hero. lol.
@@thecommongood3914 100% agree.
Identity politics being such a factor is idiotic. What really makes a difference in your life? Identity politics or health care costs, salary, environmental, etc.?
Liz Cheney is not a hero. What her father did in Iraq was utterly horrific. If these are your hero's, your villains will always seem rational and charming by comparison.
Liz paying for the actions of her previous generation is peak far left ideology
Sam says "there's an appetite for populism", which is a strange near miss from somebody who used to be sort of an iconoclast. The appetite on the right and the left is not for populism per se, it is for representation and a shot at a decent life in the face of the increasing corporatization of what was already, since its inception, an oligarchy of the ultra-wealthy.
It’s a bit shallow, but it’s a point.
sam is manna from heaven.
Common sense can be pleasant.
The worst thing that could of happened. happened.
As someone who loves Sam Harris… this must be the worst *LIVE* show- well, ever :|
I totally disagree with Sam on the Subway guy ... at least for me - the skin color of either side makes absolutely no difference. I am classic FDR Liberal.
Do you think the far Left and legacy media agree with you?
@@magicalfrijoles6766
Why do you ask?
What difference does that make? Some do, and some don't.
There is nothing that agrees with me or disagrees with me 100%.
What bothers me is the failure for people to differentiate and the preference for taking sides which I think leads to the wide statistical tails and the lunacy on both sides - and usually over trivial issues. The world and our country is in real problems - whether or not our economy is doing well - according to Democrats, or poorly according to Republicans. But at least currently it is Republicans that fail to accept real numbers and make real arguments on that issue.
Wait… Sam’s whole point was that people who need to know the skin color of everyone involved before they can form an opinion are delusional.
@@stephenschneider4221
Wait for what?
There are times that skin color or historic injustice matters and there are times it does not. By ignoring it Sam misses the point. I get that he is trying to still fit with the anti-woke crowd, which I do to, but I think sometimes he gets to doctrinaire about it and goes too far or does not consider his analogies enough.
Sam said that this is a problem "increasingly as you move left of center". He didn't claim that everyone on the left, including you, has this problem.
The democrats lost due to grocery prices and rent prices. The social stuff is not relevant.
The social stuff was relevant to me. I voted Biden in 2020, but then he brought woke lunatics into the White House
It's very relevant
All Dems have too do is vote. Trump got the number of votes as 4 yr ago
So true, so annoying.
harris is a rouge intellectual
He doesn’t look that red to me
Rogue?
All politics is identity politics, but sure let’s blindly accept the right’s framing of this issue and see where it leads 👀
Nonsense. Martin Luther King's mantra, that we judge people on their actions and not their skin colour, is as great a repudiation of identity politics as there could be
@ MLK was against racism and politics based solely on racial identity, but all people’s interests arise from the way they (and society) identify themselves. Race, religion, nationality, socioeconomic class, gender, sexual preference, age, geographical location, etc It’s more complex than right wingers have the capacity to understand.
@@godisbollocksMLK advocated for affirmative action. A policy which Sam Harris uses as an example of why it would be acceptable to discriminate against a Black surgeon
@@godisbollocks Conservatives like Sam Harris cite that MLK passage to justify their racism
@jmc5335 Seriously? You think Harris is a conservative? You're talking to someone who has been a fan of his since 2006 and has read and re-read 5 of his books. Watched countless lectures, podcast episodes, and political debates over nearly two decades.
Harris has slammed Trump and the MAGA movement harder than virtually any public figure of renown. Your flawed fly-by-night evaluation of his political leanings won't wash here. Basic-b***h political musings at their most rococo.
28:28 Huge blind spot for Harris.
If you blindly follow a staffers advice, maybe you shouldn't be Prez huh
Stick to Engineering folks.
fine people hoax hoax. nooooooooo sam. one or two mentions are forgivable. the fact that you keep bringing it up without reading about it is lazy at best
Sam Harris doesn't laugh and it's weird.
The REPUBLICANS are so far gone? How about the Democrats? Lol. "Wake up," Sam.
The Democrats never found themselves a leader they'd follow over a cliff with cult-like servility. The Republicans are there, and have been there for going on 9 years.
Trump is an unprecedented threat to the nation and republicans pretend he isn’t so they can retain power.
If Biden pulled Jan 6 or refused to invite Trump to the white house you people would start a war. You use kid gloves for Trump. The Republican Party is the party of the unsophisticated and the uneducated 😊
Epic slam! You even managed to get his book and app title in! 🙄
For the amount of time he spends deriding the left it’s hard to even understand this comment
The interviewer is terrible
Sam Harris blames cultural issues and weird academic anecdotes for Trump’s victory. He is basically saying Trump is right about his fear mongering of “the left”. His thoughts on this are incoherent and unhelpful. I wish he would exit the discourse and vote republican in private.
Trump is a far right character who people cheer for because of how extreme his rhetoric is. We need the same energy on the left to fight back. A loud and proud progressive and populist who stands up to power
This just dawned on me as well. Harris is a plain Republican. Just not the religious kind.
Sam seems confused and politically lost
He does. Just though the same. He is a Repulican without a home. Not MAGA but deeply anti-Democrat.
Sam conflates race with skin colour. People don’t treat racial differences like hair colour differences because race isn’t simply an aesthetic feature.
What is it then if not superficial? Does it indicate deep fundamental differences? And if so what are those differences?
@ skin colour is superficial, but race (or more accurately ethnicity) is far too highly correlated with culture to be superficial, and culture is behavioural.
@@joelharvey I think race is only circumstantially correlated with culture. Hence why a child born of ethnic Nigerians who grows up in a British culture via adoption is 100% Indistinguishable from a generational Briton.
@@DrewdrewdrewdrIt can be a deep fundamental difference. Isn't that how some diseases are more prominent in different races and not others? Races have different skeletal and muscular differences. If those things can be different, do we think the brain was exempt from these evolutionary differences?
Science would tell us that race is about as superficial a human distinction as there can be.
Poor Sam, he is so sane and together until you bring up his kryptonite......Trump.
This was such an embarrassing conversation. TDS is real y’all.
how was it embarrassing ? made sense to me .
a guy called Super Mayhem thinks Trump makes more sense than Sam Harris. no surprises there
Why don't you point out examples where Sam blamed Trump for things that he had nothing to do with? I'm sure people would be receptive if you gave an example.
@@magicalfrijoles6766 yeah, liberals are so receptive
TDSS: A syndrome wherein every critique of trmp can be hand waved as a psychological disease or social contagion. Ie: a defense of a cult
Gotta tap out, TDS too strong
Good time to look inward if that’s the case