Bouncers - Are They REALLY Violent Thugs? | Retired Police Interceptor Tells All!
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I've been a door supervisor for 12 years and would just like to say thank you for your kind words about our profession, we do try our best to keep people safe.
Unfortunately, there's a small amount of door supervisors out there who think they're SIA approved Stone Cold Steve Austin which overshadows the good work we do.
Good work you do lol
@@tomdawson1285 What do you know?
I went on ferry from newcastle to amsterdam two years ago, the `security staff` were huge...and everyone of them were polite and helpful and more than happy to chat.
I’m a doorman and I can’t speak for every doorman in the country but I can speak for our company and in our area we cover most of the doors and get so much stick off customers eventhough we’re looking after them. We want to work well with police but they still don’t like us because we’re doorman so now I’m in a position where I try to rebuild relationships between our company and the police so when we need each other, we’re there for each other. It’s getting better but we still face struggles. If we have a serious situation we all go to it so we always work as a team. We don’t brawl like everyone thinks we do and each member of our team has their own skill set that works differently in every situation. But like I say I can’t talk for every company or every doorman
When I used to work in bars the bouncers are lovely people , always protected an basically cared for , women were worst for me, wed have to restock the bar 2 or 3 times a night an id be carrying 2 or 3 crates an id just get groped like fuck an where people will look at me like wat u on about a grown bloke been touched by women but ya at work an u just want to get through it an ur on a diff level, big salute to u mate
Fair play to you mate. Keep doing what you’re doing and stay safe yourself!
Well said,my other half has been a doorman for 20yrs & is exactly the same as you said. He says he never tells people he is a doorman as they think negative stuff straight away. There is good & bad in any profession. Best wishes
I’m in Nottm and back in the 90’s at a certain bar, the doormen were steroid raging f’ing assholes that looked for throwing people out and smacking em. Far too much heavy handedness. It only changed when the laws did so lets face it, back here, they would still be there but for the law changes. To balance that out, of course there were loads of real nice blokes on the doors of many pubs and clubs and at that time I was grateful for them being there as well. 👊🏻🙂
@@Richard_Barnes RC by any chance?
I live in Newcastle and I've honestly never had a bad night, felt unsafe or had a problem with bouncers. Best city in the world! Never went to Buffalo Joe's, been closed down for ages.
Only bad experience I’ve had with bouncers is at tup tup
Can we pls get a video about the importance of 999 call operators and the job as a whole
One of our sons lost a friend due to a single punch, he was a lovely lad in his twenties and he wasn't even involved with the dispute... Such a sad waste of a young life.
Genuine question though. How as a police officer do you ever trueley relax when out having a drink or meal with family. Theirs always a winner wanting to get a name for themselves etc
I guess the answer to that would be they can't ever _"truly relax"_ or let their guard down in public. Never get too drunk and always have your wits about you. Comes with the job I guess, unfortunately. 🤷🏼♂️
Most fellas prefer a quiet night in the house anyways 😅 Too much drama when out mingling.
Work in a different town. Socialise in a different town. Go nice places less likely to bump into the normal clientele.
Simple answer. You don't!
You don't
The only way I tend to relax more is when I'm out on a works do as I know weve got each othwrs backs. If it's just my wife and I or non work mates, my eyes are constantly scanning the room and spotting those that are likely to cause issues. That also comes from being former door staff though.
I'd be much happier if the police actually prosecuted the scummier bouncers. An SIA licence and a cheap suit doesn't mean you can just commit assault and false imprisonment, or simply serve as the club owner's preferred dealer while ensuring the others are panned in.
My extremely violent ex (also charged with Rape while I was pregnant) is a security guard and does door work; I don’t understand how this is possible given his record???
I hope you're approaching being in a better place now.
I'd suggest contacting the SIA and letting them know. Could have slipped through on vetting. However, if he wasn't found guilty of the rape or any violent offences then unfortunately accusations are just that and in the eyes of the law he's innocent until proven guilty.
@@timothydraper6626 That sounds... ominous.
@@BaldMancTwat It could sound other things too, depending on how one interprets the written word, which doesn't have tone of voice to accompany it.
You shouldn't be allowed an SIA licence with any kind of criminal record for assault ABH/GBH etc. If you are, then that's a problem right there.
That pub story was really good job well done to those doormen. Gives you faith in humanity
Hi Ben, Awesome to see and hear from you again, love your stories you share with us, through your life experiences. Always so genuine, today is a good day for you Ben, you are coming across with good vibes, well done 🥰💖🌺
The last statement about People dieing from one punch is too true and a real eye opener when in a heated situation when out out
A good video to watch Ben, a lot of good points throughout the video. I have to say it's great to see the progression of people throughout the years we grow, at the end of the day life is to important! We live it to the best of our ability and celebrate(responsibly) the good times to create memories that last a lifetime.
P.s. love your videos Ben keep up awesome work, I hope your enjoying yourself
Loved the vid Ben absolutely brilliant, loving your content mate and the variety of content you put out. Another brilliant vid keep it up you're doing a fantastic job as always 👊🇬🇧
The bar in Newcastle you talk of “Buffalo Joes”, I was there around the time you say, back in the day. It was wild, extreme violence & then back to normal, then while later kick off again, would happen umpteen times a night. Number of years later I was a door steward in Edinburgh in a club. For 13 months, seen a lot in that short time. There was at least 1-3 fights a night, mostly between 1am-3am. I couldn’t relax after working the doors if I was on a night out, really opened my eyes, I used to say, 90% of the time you are doing very little but it’s a very busy 10%.
I really appreciate the view on doorman, I was a doorman in Middlesbrough for years. All we did and was try our best to look after people especially in a town where if we searched everyone they'd be no punters. Too many drugs are the problem, especially in the north east like you said.
Tough love. If a doorman gives you a hiding, then you are far more likely to wind your neck in and quickly realise that you're a million miles away from being hard. On the flip side, the same people will keep on pushing it if they don't get dealt with. And the police won't deal with them. So who does? Other customers? That's a recipe for a massive brawl.
Sadly I witnessed the direct aftermath of a one punch death just the other week in our local town.
I was driving and arrived just as the police did and was trapped by their cars for around 20 minutes as they worked on him.
One punch, fell hit his head and went into cardiac arrest.
A 50 year old dead and a 22 year old screwed his life up.
Peace
Charlie 🇬🇧
Really sad man
Where abouts did this happen?
@@jxckcufc8307 Huntingdon Cambridgeshire
My god I'm 50 , that is sad as bro
There was a thing on the news a few years ago where a guy wanted a fight. He was following this guy around, followed him out of the pub and up the street and started attacking him. Eventually the victim hit him back and sent him crashing to the floor. He hit his head and died.
Apparently he was an otherwise nice lad, but got drunk, upset and wanted to fight this guy. Ended up losing his life instead.
Your video always make me laugh Ben ,thanks for cheering me up today as I'm feeling a bit meh
I’ve done doors in some rough areas still active every weekend and I’ve always used the term be nice until it’s time not to be.
I always use body cam now to justify shit should I need to.
Some door staff are there for the girls in the clubs, fights, want to look hard, extra income a whole variety of reasons but for me it’s about a social life as I was a victim of bullying that left me without education and friends, so I enjoy the Friday and Saturday night antics..
I’m there to earn money but ultimately it’s me having fun also and meeting new people.
There are regular staff (not security) in my local Sainsbury's wearing bodycams these days. Even the LNER ticket inspectors had bodyworn last time I was on a train.
It's mad that this is required.
I think a really important part of alcohol education that is often left out is there is still a point that you are still in control, once you make the choice to go past that, regardless of what you think you'll do, you can't ever be sure of what you will do or what the results will be. Go out, have fun, have a few drinks, but it's possible to do that without going past a point of no return. If you know you've had 2 drinks and the 3rd will make you tipsy, slow down and wait a while before having that third one because it's a quick down hill slide after that. Even when you think 'nah it's alright I've got a taxi booked home, im out with mates so they'll keep me safe, and I don't fight with people', that night could be the night you get in a fight with someone, go home, get riled up, get in your car, go back alone to the pub (if you make it there) and cause massive problems. Drinking responsibly doesn't just mean don't drink and drive. It means don't get to a point that you are unable to make well informed choices for the entirety of your night.
Personally I think it depends on the area like you said. I've been out in Leigh and the bouncers just haymaker people and you see 10+ fights every night along with being known for selling drugs in certain clubs but then you go 20 minutes down the road into Manchester and I don't think I've ever seen a fight or "bad" door staff. Generally friendly and there to keep an eye on the people who are out to ruin someone's evening.
The particular security company employed is the factor not being mentioned 🙄!
I have been a pub landlord on and off for the last 5 years and Iv met loads of door staff and I can say yes some are over the top with force but I’d rather have them . Over a relaxed light handed staff
Mr Ben, I was out in Newcastle very recently.
Proper rough event on, plenty of idiots getting thrown out forcefully (and rightly so) no bloody noses and I have no complaints about the bouncers, full metals check and pat down for all entrants.
They have some job to do, always ahead of the ball and still polite with me 🤷♂️
Hi Ben!
The Walking Dead Season 11 is split into 3 sections, one is out now, one releases February 20th and the last 6 I believe are in October.
Next year there’s a movie too! I’ve been watching for ten years!
Someone I know is a Special & they had an op on for an A - Level Results party at a notorious night club. Initially 12 in the team, that was whittled down to 3 a kick out time. Now, not many 18yos can drink sensibly and control themselves. A couple of minor scraps broke out before a big melee. He says had not the door staff weighed in it would have been a red button moment. The only urgent call he ever put out, & he heard nothing back; his earpiece had been knocked out.
Thankyou for giving us door staff a good name and sticking up for us, to most we are ‘dickheads’, if you ever find yourself in bath your always welcome to my venue!
As someone who was battered within an inch of my life by 6 SIA ticketted bouncers for no reason and then had a dressing down with threat of arrest by police when reporting it.
It's of no surprise i'm of the thinking that reform is needed all round. Frankly all those in so-called authority positions should have their 'qualified immunity' revoked.
You were beaten within an inch of your life for no reason and the police did nothing...your status says everything I need to know about you.
i went through the same as you Schrody, see my post now lost all my respect and trust in the Police,
Maybe you don't realize this but that's actually the point of the SIA, before the SIA the same thing was happening but you'd have zero accountability, the point of the badges is that in theory they're identifiable, in practice it may not always work out like that but there are more people being barred from door work these days than before the SIA was introduced because it provides at least some regulation.
I'm sure there are many great door staff, but speaking from experience, it's always the bad ones that stand out which is why they get a bad rep. I've been kicked out a club I think because I spoke to someone who was a known trouble causer. I say I think because the door staff wouldn't tell me why I was kicked out. I was assaulted by a group of travellers, and told "you shouldn't be here". The travellers stayed and I was kicked out. And my friend was accused of dealing coke (he wasn't), got cornered by a doorman and told he had to cut the doorman in on what he made or the doorman would beat the crap out of him. I bet most people have a negative doorman story but few have a positive one.
A pub in Aberdeen that my other half used to go into (this was back before bouncers needed licensing) had an old bloke who used to keep order, he must have been in hiis 60's, but he was a big heavy set bloke. He just used to sit at one of the tables drinking coffee, and one day these two lads started arguing and getting ready to have a proper scrap. This guy (let's call him Jim) levered himself up from his seat, went over and grabbed hold of these two lads by the scruff of their necks (one in each hand..!) marched them to the door, threw them across the street and uttered the immortal words "The winner can come back in..!" Strangely enough, neither of them were ever seen again 🤣
Thanks for the vid Ben.
My other half appreciates your honest opinion
Hi Ben, What are your thoughts on spiking and how it is dealt with within the police. I was out with my GF this weekend and she was spiked and police to us to hospital until we late found out that the hospital didn’t have spiking test kits but the police station did. (We went to the station next morning)
I lived in Bradford for years loved the place
In the days where I was out on the town every weekend the pubs would usually have the same doormen each week. Therefore we avoided the pubs that had dickheads on the door. 95% of them were fine and I always felt safer knowing they were around. Did have a few issues at night clubs, once I stumbled coming down the stairs and had to grab the bannister to stop myself falling over. Without saying a word a doorman came up to me, grabbed me and threw me through the fire escape into a dark alley in the middle of winter when it was pissing down with rain. Complete prick!!
I once got assaulted by a doorman in a pub I don't wish to name the venue though
When you taking over Jamie Theakstons job as you’d be brilliant he’s so boring and you know the job backwards, forwards inside and out Channel 5 need to make this happen .. as always Ben & boys another great upload 🤙🏻
That’s such a good shout
I bounced in Bradford in the mid 90’s. Before they handed out door staff vetting. I was one of the first to get my door staff pass in Leeds in 95-96. I think I was no12. Long time ago now. Couldn’t do it now.
Most of my clubbing and nightclub visits took place when I was 14 - 15 and never had any problems - On the few occasions I have been since then over the last 35+ years I have seen a mixed bunch - professional on the door but dodgy as **** when no ones looking at times but I have to admit where as in the past you would see them lay someone out and drag em outside now they seem more restrained but who know's is that because they are more professional / better trained or just aware everything they do will be caught on camera. At the end of the day it is not a job I would do but I have seen them come to the aid of the Police a couple of times saving them from a kick in.
I live in Tokyo and don't really enjoy clubs, but there are a few owners who set the tone for the whole bar. The staff are friendly, the other patrons are having fun, and I always feel safe. I've only visited one club where they had thugs, and they were not from Japan. I've only been to one club where the security staff acted like thugs. I never went back.
Had afew nights in buffalo joes.. around 2008-2010 don't recall any tension from the staff I wonder if there was something going off the evening ben visited... good night's though
I used to work in a wine shop that was next to a few bars and clubs.
The door staff were great with helping us dealing with drunks and aggro people and we gave them staff discounts for energy drinks etc while they were on the job, or if they were getting stuff for a family meal and the like. It was a win win situation for all of us :)
My most negative experience with doormen was in London, they tried to get me to kick off by initially having a go at me for wearing a hat for being a "gang member" so I took it off. They then kept harassing me due to my clothing (jeans, shirt, jacket, boots) until my friend who I was visiting spoke to the bar manager and got them to knock it off. This would have been about 2015.
It is a world of contrasts.
Maestros..... I'm not from Bradford HOWEVER, friends used to go when it was Dollars & Dimes, back in the 80's. Cheers Mr Pearson.
"NUT-JOBS" ..."HEADBANGERS" I know what wavelength you're on with that.
Not a lad called MO in leeds who does doors , he used to do store security in leeds , i think floating security and i saw him in H @ m store .
He's trouble .
But i remember the 90's door staff in leeds were bad talkimg drunk people out and robbing them of money.
How do you feel about the trust between the police and public being at such a low?
The perception is that cops are arrogant, never on the beat and almost forgotten that they are in a position of service to the public.
It almost comes across as contempt for the public.
How is it fixed?
Re train the police
@@connect4glyn It's almost engrained in the culture though.
They are public servants, try telling them that ,
@@connect4glyn Have you seen the amount of videos on youpube of them abusing the laws like section 50. These robots need deprogramming. It's in the training and the culture
Any news on the Hotel tango 23 audio book?
Buffalo Joes has been closed down for years! It's actually in Gateshead (technically), but Gateshead Quayside. I'm a bit young to have went myself but I've heard it use to be belta!
As early 30s, I've been on the receiving end of arsehole bouncers, deserving and undeserving. But I've also spoken to and engaged with very good, friendly, caring door lads. It's hit and miss, I'd still generally have an opinion that most are dickheads. Wrongly or rightly
100% this. I have seen some bouncers who are awsome at their jobs and want to make sure everyone is having a good time, and then some who are power tripped and need removing or re-training. Really hope the goverment gives the SIA more teeth to make this a reality!
@@tvandbeermakehomergo I think it's tough where the SIA are concerned where training, etc is at. I don't feel it's the lack of training that's the problem. I think for the ones that are dickheads, the power trip they get once the control they have takes over. I'm not sure how the training can change that. It's a mentality of some people. I've been around many that are just itching to fight, that's a dangerous game to be playing as a doorman.
@@Ryan-py9lj The police need to grow a pair. Any doorman who assaults a punter and oversteps their authority should be in a cell, end of. That currently doesn't really happen and the police generally side with the doorman while someone is on the pavement covered in the red stuff.
@@mxbx307 Fully agree mate. Seems like the Police will take a negative view of someone that's out having a drink, regardless of them being innocent. I've had a bouncer come into a bar, crack me and threw me out for standing talking to someone. Then proceeding to want a fight behind the club away from cameras. Needless to say I was up for it but group I was with wouldn't let it happen lol
Yeah it depends on the company and the venue that's hiring them. Good place, good contractor, good outcome. Some companies are filled with a bunch of pricks though, so you only need 2 of them in a town and then, well there you go - they'd only be stopped by the police or business reasons so.
I’d like to get you a drink if you’re ever in Bingley Ben. You sound a good man mate.
I’m in Nottm and back in the 90’s at a certain bar, the doormen were steroid raging f’ing assholes that looked for throwing people out and smacking em. Far too much heavy handedness. It only changed when the laws did so lets face it, back here, they would still be there but for the law changes. To balance that out, of course there were loads of real nice blokes on the doors of many pubs and clubs and at that time I was grateful for them being there as well. 👊🏻🙂
RC by any chance?
I got hit in the face with a glass bottle and cut below eye just as I walked through the front door, door staff couldn’t have done enough to try and get it sorted and proved first aid. They advised I went to hospital but I wanted to stay, which they advised against but if I did I wasn’t going to be served alcohol cos I had a head injury.
I've had similar experiences with college security! Where they just speak to students like crap and go care how they make them feel!
Defo intrested in 1965 hoodie
Never used to be, but I reckon with the changes the last 15 years, they have
I had the unfortunate hell of going to college with one of the steroid freaks. Most of them go into these jobs as their personality types are the same. He was obsessed with getting people in trouble for drugs but took them himself. Ridiculous. Riddled with issues. Awful human being.
My interview went up yesterday at Real Porridge Podcast (lee Marvin & ciara) thanks buddy x 💯❤️👁🗨😊
Buffalo Joe's! Classic! Where you'd go before Baja!🤣
The answer is short and simple, yes.
Would be so interesting to see a collaboration with Larry Lawton!
My boy is a doorman he's 6/8 and about 20st lives in gym but still has people having a pop i don't think many play up for long though
6’8? Wtf you been feeding him
Boy is a freak I'm 5/8 his mother 5/0 his siblings are all normal sizes was a very energetic kid and liked his grub I should have had a DNA test done 😊
@@sean-wh3it was gonna say dna test may have to be done 🤣
At end of the day though, if it's a rough door you need rough lads working on it...
Nights out in Bingley. Good times. Bring back Porky's!
Genuine question though. How as a police officer do you ever trueley relax whe out having a drink or meal with family. Theirs always a winner wanting to get a name for themselves etc
I agree back in day violence now much better wasn’t allowed in few place as landlord use too get attacked often back in-day so ,many issues(punches)
Been punched once in Australia once 9 years later in rehab in London can’t talk just about walk wrecked my life my TBI now
Doorman or bouncers as they are called are not like that in Australia from my experience. 90% arnt there to look after the patrons... It's always to late.
I’m from Newcastle and I rarely go to clubs there anymore cause the bouncers are just mugs I’d much rather go to Tynemouth or Jesmond much calmer and much nicer doormen so if you’re thinking of going to Newcastle I’d recommend them two places than the town centre
What was tour best time in the police and what was the positive times of the job 👍👍
Back in the 90's and also from hearing off older friends who talked about nights out in the 1970's. In the 90's one security firm covered the pubs in my town (ran by some drug dealing steroid taking arse hole). All his staff were roid boys who were just looking from trouble and would quite happily drag you out, and give you a punch or two down the side of the pub.
From friends who told me about nights out in the 1970's with bouncers. They told me that pub goers had a healthy respect for bouncers, as they knew that they could drag you out, fling you down the stairs, or give you a good kicking in the alleyway. Much as the door security has been more regulated in recent years, there's more and more people giving the bouncers loads of shit and hassle as a result of this, as they know that they can hardly lift a hand to them nowadays.
Dunno about nowadays, but back in the early 2000s round these parts, if you wanted some drugs, the door staff that worked for a certain company (which no longer exists thankfully) would happilly sell you whatever you wanted. Said company only really had the doors on the more "chavvy" type places, which i rarely went in, esp after one of my mates went in one and was dragged out back and beaten up by the shaved gorillas because apparently he was "lookin at our lass" or some shit.
Welcome back Ben. Keep laughing.
I'll answer that. Yes they are!
Ben you can watch the Walking Dead on Disney + as all the seasons are on the uk Version 🤣
"Life's too important for shit like that."
Yes
Buffalo Joe's it was called, opposite Barha night club but they both closed years ago
Hold up... binley.....binley..... oh yes i remember... BINLEY MEGA CHIPPY BINLEY MEGA CHIPPPY BINLEY MEGA CHIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPY
Well I worked the doors for 13 years in that time I never hit punch or even open palm.
Don’t get me wrong choke outs, there fine. But if your getting some punter in your face it’s because you’ve upset them.
My reputation was upheld on my ability to listen and talk to people.
If you cause the situation then you shouldn’t be working the doors.
Use the words duty of care, when you’ve got someone to drink to come in, not F%#K OFF!
that creates a reaction.
Good advice, when people have been drinking they can take anything you say to them the wrong way and then think you have mugged them off in front of their mates, I find a friendly attitude and smile diffuses it 99% of the time but there is always the 1% who will switch and put a glass in somebody's face, I would want a lot of money to do that job.
@@mikehunt8823 I used to to explain to new door supervisors. When someone approaches the door who you can clearly tell have had to much.
Before opening your mouth, take these things into consideration.
Are they a regular?
If not you have no idea what they might be going through personally.
Could of had a break up, family death, lost there job, the list is endless.
So be polite. Just say as we have a duty of care, I can’t let you in that drunk sir/madam.
Then you offer them a deal, if you pop over there mate, grab some food have some water. Pop back in about half hour see how you feel.
I 100% guarantee they’ll forget where they were going.
Then call cctv just tell the other venues not to let them, and just to monitor them. If there really drunk.
The job doesn’t involve been hard as fuck, that’s old school unfortunately it doesn’t work, if you don’t want to follow the stigma of the job. Don’t play up to it. Same applies to females flirting with you.
I did non of that never once abused my position, I loved the job. And I was very good at it to.
Some guys just get the badge think there’s gods gift and there he-man.
But I stuck to my morals for the hole 13 years I did the doors. I ran festivals, head doorman on many venues. Was head hunted for other companies.
Respect you have to earn it on the doors like anywhere
You would have to be really careful with women coming onto you, some really enjoy making their boyfriend jealous. I wouldn't get to pally with regulars either, in my experiance that makes people think you will back them up in a fight.
@@mikehunt8823 yes, never treated anyone differently.
I’ve worked venues, where I’ve had some guy roll up, ignore the queue.
Expecting to bypass the other people waiting patiently.
You get the words, do you no who I am?
No but I’m James, pleased to meet you, now if you’d like to joint the queue like everyone else. You’ll be in in no time.
Yes you get the threats the abuse, off one person for hurting there ego.
But I’m not letting someone jump the queue then have 20-40 people fuming asking you why.
Never be intimidated ever! You show your weak you’ll be out of the job by the following weekend.
It’s a difficult job, I went into the job not expecting anything, I got made redundant in the recession. Looked at trades people need. Security.
It turned into the best job I’ve ever had. Learned many universal skills that you can adapt to any job.
Unfortunately I had a breakdown and never recovered myself back enough. Now I hardly leave my house due to my mental health issues.
Nothing to do with the job, personal traumas
@@mikehunt8823 and if you daft enough to take a girl home and she cries rape. It’s your own doing. You shouldn’t take advantage of your job, or drunk females or males.
You’d be surprised at the amount of male door supervisors will shag literally anything
I was a door man most of the people I worked with where amazing people met some of the most genuine people on the doors that would always have your back if and when u needed it but then u got the odd miserable twat that looked like he didn’t want to be there like all places of work 🤣 but yeah i stopped it’s getting crazy now with these young ones carrying knifes they don’t think before they act
Not even watched the video yet, but yes they're. Ben, you're a bradford lad. Go for a night out in Acca and then you'll realise 🤣 the staircase of death behind the building.
What happened to the guy in the van who hit the cyclist
Id say they used to be but its dll regulated now
Yes. Yes they are.
@Non-Stick Pan hahaha, oh to be fair I’ve never actually had a bad experience with a bouncer. Only time I’d even got on their bad side was when we had this genius idea of sneaking into a Glasgow nightclub via the exit doors. Absolute criminal masterminds so we were.
However there’s professionals doing a hard job in many cases, but have seen others in the past who really did seem eager to have a fight. This was, admittedly, almost two decades ago.
@Non-Stick Pan yeah I genuinely saw a huuuge difference once people started having licenses on their sleeves etc.
It’s been so long since I was ever “out drinking” (I think last time that was the case would be a trip to St Albans to meet up with friends in 2018)… it’s just not something that appeals to me any more.
Some are some aren't, there's the short answer.
I remember mistros I went under 18s lol
You can get a SIA licence in a lucky bag.
You will be glad to hear no the door staff are professional now 99% of the time in Newcastle that night on your visit who knows that is the staff that might of been needed if football game on
I’ve seen a bouncer punch someone who was really drunk but wasn’t doing anything wrong and he Knocked him out surely that’s illegal
Some bouncers are complete thugs though that intimidate the public and turn violent without the ptrons even showing any or little aggression to them, they might just have a disagreement with something. I myself have been twice assaulted by bouncers, however this was going back 15 years. On one occasion, I was waiting for my friend to use the toliet as the nightclub was closing and people were making there way out as we were also about to do. As I waited at the top of the stairs for him to come out as this was where we arranged to meet. I explained this to the bouncer a couple of times in a calm civil manner and then he came up to me, grabbed hold of my neck and threw me down 2 sets of stairs. Absolutely disgusting behavior and should never be allowed to be a nightclub bouncer. Before this the bouncers had also come from behind me and my friend and attempted to physically pick us up by our shoulders without warning as we finished our pints quickly before going into the foyer area. Most bouncers are ok but there are some terrible ones as well!
There profiling you down down the road walking to the venue,and conflict management skills 👍🏻😂 control and restraints 👍🏻🤫
I’d say yes they was until they had to get badges any old gangster or hard man could be on the door of a club in the 90s “ BEN TELL THEM WHO SPONSORS THIS VID “👍🏻👍🏻🇬🇧
The Queen hotel. 1997-99
Mid 90's back when you had to wear shirt and ties to get in to clubs me and my wife at the time was out and a girl smacked hell into my missus and the other girl stabbed me in the hand but me and my missus came off worse because the head doorman had a crush on the bird with the knife 🤔. So my wife was dragged out by 2 doormen and I was put into a headlock with the bouncer saying " move and i will break your f**king neck ).
And it was all because we was married at a local church before the girl who kicked crap out of my missus was?😆. When we got outside the bouncers had called the police and told them I threatened one of the girls with a bottle ?........police did'nt want to know about my knife wound. But as far as the police go these days cops were better back then because when they showed up you behaved but these days the police don't seem to have the power no more and they are the ones that could end up in trouble.
Buffalo bills - shut down about 10 years ago I reckon.
Some bouncers are decent but a lot of them are as*holes who think they are hard pushing around teen drunks.
My opinion of doormen/bouncers is this: I have never had a problem with any of them.
Now, I know quite a few people who say "the bouncers at xyz are absolute dickheads." Without fail, those people that say that are renowned for being total nightmare twats when drunk.
The only exception is the Wetherspoons near me. They have so-called bouncers, who are just not proper bouncers in any sense of the word. They fail to deal with fights and overly-rowdy drunks. They pick on younger drinkers and harass them for ID after they've already checked it multiple times. And they have a bee in their bonnet over trying to get people out the second last orders is called. I'm quite friendly with the bar staff there and none of them like the "bouncers".
Aside from at gay bars those latter bouncers are the only ones I've ever witnessed :/
All the doormen that I've came I contact with have been professional and some of them are keen to crack a joke or two. Not saying that all of them are like that, of course some are dicks, but in what profession are people not like that? Imagine the shit that those doormen have to put up with by drunken twats. They don't have CS spray, batons or tasers. They have to deal with drunks, people scrapping, people with broken bottles. As long as you don't come up to them like "how mates, fookin let is in now" you'll be fine. Get your ID checked and get on with it. 99% of the time I've heard about 'bad bouncers' have been from people who actually turned out to have been drunk and belligerent towards the doorstaff.
if its cosy joe its good, well at least it isnt fighty
Is he on about cosy Joe's in Bigg market?? Not quayside like but hope you enjoyed the toon best city in the world ♥️
It was Buffalo Joe's, it's just across the swing bridge on the Gateshead side. Looks like it's been closed down for ages.
As an young Asian male, I've faced like 75-80% discrimination from door staff. Countless times in random venues I've never been to before they will give you any reason to not let you in. Especially the 'you were fighting here last week' line to a place you've never been before. And then the ones you do get into, you're always made out to be the trouble maker if there's an altercation. Even if you were the victim.
Buffalo joes shut down years ago, michelle heaton from liberty ex was one of the dolly bird bar staff there, it was rough but not as bad as the Bigg Market, i did 7 years as a black cab driver bang in the middle, i also taught Thai Kickboxing so you can imagine what it was like, had my car windows punched out the lot. Its full of students now who think they have rights over everyone and easily offended, better night drinking down the gay scene, no hassle, everybody's nice, cheesy music and a laugh.
There were probably more nice friendly bouncers in my time going out than there were real knobheads. The only place I experienced terrible bouncers was certainly places around London. Apart from homophonic, sexist and even racist abuse I’d witness often from them when I’d visit these places.
The worst that happened to me was, while making my way through the dance floor to my mates I squeezed passed a bouncer I guess in the process of kicking someone out? In a fit of roid rage he turned to me grabbed me by the throat and marched to the stairs. About to walk down he kicked me in the back and I went flying. I don’t believe these bouncers worked for an agency (no high vis vent, ID card on the arm or anything, just all wearing the same short sleeve black shirt and trousers).
Some bars have had “security” from who knows where, these days local authorities are very hot on security in relation to licensing so it’s very rare now but I’ve attended a bar where we actually arrested a bouncer for similar, he kicked a female and broke one of her ribs watched the CCTV and had to report it for licensing officers to follow up on. These days the vast majority of food staff actually help us in our jobs and actively inform CCTV of potential troublemakers and also run out to help detain people who get violent. Makes town centre patrols on a Friday and Saturday night feel a lot safer when you know that door staff from all the local bars are happy and able to help of it gets out of hand