Why I Chose to Fedora As My Daily Driver
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Today I talk about why I chose Fedora as my new Linux Distro
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I 100% agree with this, as we get older, we don't have time to tinker around. Those days were great, but when you need a new stable home, it'sa must!
My tinkerer days are definitely over as I have more and more stuff that just needs to be done 💪😌
@@ArniesTech how do you guys accept that you don't have time for such things I just can't get over it
@@小鳥ちゃん Its all about priorities. Its not that I dont HAVE time for that. Its that I dont WANT to MAKE time for that as I have so many amazing things going which deserve my attention. ☺
@@小鳥ちゃん each person has their own schedules, their own priorities. Yes, you can still spend your time tinker around your system, but it's not the priority. You can tinker it on your spare time. In the meantime, most of people only want their system to work and run well.
I think we all reach a point of burnout when we have to tinker when we don't want to. Tinkering is fun, but I don't want to be doing that when I have other things I need to get done.
Switched from Arch to Fedora myself. I build from scratch my system based on Fedora 36. I can easly say Fedora is the most stable bleeding-edge distro. Super happy with it.
i started using linux as daily driver 6-7 months ago with Arch but tried fedora on VMs also
and it's actually an awesome distro.I think i would try it as daily driver later on this year .Although fedora is called "leading edge" as opposed to Arch "bleeding edge"
I would say cutting edge
Fedora is a good choice for stability, whether your new, experienced or old, young, Fedora may get to be the new Linux Mint.
It indeed is. I am totally happy with 36 Workststion 😎🙏
I always end up back with Fedora, although I use a KDE spin. It just works and is a nice reliable system for my production machine and serious work.
Thats the spirit. We all have stuff to be done. Preferably without any headache. 💪😅
Fedora is so good it made me a GNOME 3 user.
I personally use openSUSE tumbelweed it's pretty similar to fedora (stable and secure out of the box) but for kde
@@ioneocla6577 On openSuse i find myself way too often choosing between adding someone`s anonymous repository or building software from sources like it is 1990s again. Not everything is in flatpaks, you know.
Best computer game of all time: Linux🎉.
You'll never finish it. And there's always something to do😉
I installed Fedora 36 and my plan was to try and install the newest Manjaro. I download the newest Manjaro iso, created a Flash Drive, booted, tried a little bit, then thought to myself "you know what, fedora is running so well and smoothly, why hop?" I'm really, really enjoying my Fedora installation! I wanted to try Arch, but gonna take some time now. Don't fix it if it ain't broken, right?
This is a very healthy mindset. And still sometimes the temptation to distro hop is overwhelming 🤣
Manjaro is really great, it is as stable as Ubuntu but with the AUR
@@zeocamo I tend to end up breaking Manjaro whenever I set it up for daily use. Lol.
@@bcsr4ever Exactly... I have had more problems with manjaro than vanilla arch
If you are going to try Arch, I'd say EndeavourOS or ArcoLinux would be a better choice compared to Manjaro.
Im totally with you on this one. I run my business, and for a while I was using arch, but it was just too unreliable as a daily driver. Fedora is leading edge enough to make ensure I have everything I need, but I also have way more confidence in my system.
Same story. I installed arch at first on my work laptop, but was so scared when running every update, its just not for an important laptop. Btw what kind of bussiness are u running if u wanna share?
@@echoptic775 you are spot on. Basically just a simple SaaS business. I actually still use arch on many servers, but only light-weight stuff where the process is isolated and I have full control. Do you still use Arch though? Because now that I have fedora I feel less and less inclined to use Arch on any machine. In the past I used PopOS and so moving to Arch was great with the AUR etc.
Good luck with Fedora. I think it's a great middle ground between Debian and Arch ( stability yet up to date packages ).
I was wondering when this would happen. I had a similar experience and I’ve been watching your journey and laughing to myself as you do the same things I did.
I like watching you and listening to you work through challenges. It's refreshing, as opposed to other channels where everything is always a beautiful rose garden of distros. You keep is real and I want you to know that it's truly appreciated!
Back in December, my hard drive went bad in my everyday browsing computer. I upgraded to an SSD, and installed Linux Mint Cinnamon. I had been thinking about trying Linux for awhile. Now, I really don't see myself going back to Windows--at least for my everyday browsing. I chose Cinnamon because of its popularity and stability. I really don't have time right now to learn Linux. I did learn enough to install a few programs via Terminal. Pretty much operating like usual--with Microsoft.
Linux Mint Cinnamon does behave a lot lot like Windows out of the box. (Much more than Fedora, IMHO). Because Ubuntu has been so popular for so long, and because Linux Mint is a fork of Ubuntu, you will find a lot of software that works on Mint.
What was the point of changing if you mainly use your computer for browsing?
@@CasinoWoyale privacy, lack of forced updates, better hardware perfomance (windows is a bloat)
LM is superior in usability to many distros. I can't live without the startup applications menu that cinnamon has anymore.
Fedora fails to properly blend with the cinnamon environment.
MX linux has some nice things I wish LM had, like being able to config 2 mice separarately.
All distros lack a mouse wheel scroll speed selector. It can be built in later, but that sucks.
Fedora is my favorite distro, I like the dnf ecosystem more than the apt one and never got errors with it.
Also I feel like Fedora is extremely stable at its core, of cours it has some bugs because it uses the latest tehnologies like Wayland, pipewire, latest versions of DEs, but didn't have major problems.
I was using mint and tried to update. You know "sudo apt update" then it spat out an error. Apt does not exist on your system. Immediately was done with it and hopped to fedora 34. Now using fedora 35 and waiting for 37 cause 36 has some issues with my specific Nvidia gpu
@@John_Kap having an Nvidia GPU on Linux it's pain.
I am using an AMD GPU on Linux and couldn't be more happy. It just works perfectly without any tuning or fixes. It's truly a plug and play experience.
@@luckyowl10 Yeah I know. I wish I had picked an Rx 6700xt or smth
@@luckyowl10 I wish I could just get an and gpu... People are talking about fedora like it's the most incredible distro and I can't even try it...
Great video as always! This is pretty much my exact experience too, I daily drove Endeavour for a good while but one day nvidia caused something to break and I was too tired of it happening on my desktop I use for studying, so switched to Fedora 36. So far, so good for sure. I agree with pretty much everything you said, especially that Fedora strikes a great balance between stability and being up to date and not far behind.
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Pretty much my experience as well. Glad you enjoy fedora! I’ve been a pretty big fan of it since I moved like 6 or so months back.
I always use Fedora as my main machine for work and stuff. I don't haven much patience now to tinker my whole desktop every 3 months or so, I think the wonder got old on me knowing how much time I lose just doing that. Just wanted something stable, functional and safe for the everyday use.
Hello, Matt;
I use MX.
IMO, it has a great package manager (MX calls it "MX Package Installer").
When I click the "Stable Repo" tab I get a screen w/ a "Also Install "Recommended" Packages" option.
I know it's not perfect & eventually anyone will have an issue w/ it.
But when I tried linux before I ran into the dependency issues, & it was terrible.
You may or may not get an error mess. RE: the dependency you needed to fix.
If you don't know what's wrong it's almost impossible to fix it.
So getting some needed dependencies w/ the package is real helpful.
MX comes w/ Catfish File Search, it's ok, nothing to brag about.
So I used the "Package Installer" to install fsearch, which I really like, it's pretty quick.
I'm 67 so I just
Have a GREAT day, Neighbor!
One package that I have on all my Linux installs is Topgrade. It keeps your system up to date no matter the package management systems you have installed. So it will keep the basic system up to date, and also snaps and flatpaks too if you have those installed. Your mileage will vary of course but it's one I do recommend.
That looks awesome. Thanks for the future video idea :)
@@TheLinuxCast Hey no problem.
As my "Just works" distro I use Void Linux, I had an arch installation back then, but sometimes think just would end up broken. Void despite being rolling release never broke on me, and package availability is honestly great, if something isn't in the repositories it probably is in the void src repositories, I only use flatpak as my last resort. So if you want minimalistic distro like arch but with stability (in my opinion) void is great choice. Also it's free of systemd if you care about that
what are these src repositories ?
@@SansDev basically collection of packages that you can compile from source or just download using xbps-src utility, they are mostly non-free packages such as IntellJ, Discord and stuff.
@@artei7879 got it! thanks for the explanation, and I may switch to Void cuz I've got some dependency issues with arch lately.
Same.
I use Fedora 36 myself too, use a programme called Fredy to get some stuff that I wanted, never used it before but when I recently installed Fedora found it useful! Still a bit of a noob to Fedora myself but I tried Debian based systems and they're great but I find Fedora easier to keep up to date as you said. Not trying to come off as a show off but I have recent hardware that works on stuff like Ubuntu but I am not the biggest fan of Snap. It works fine just but... I dunno... Fedora 36 all the way love it!
You finally saw the light
I just found your channel. I have to say that before I made the full switch to Linux on my desktop hardware, I used to distrohop. I found reviews on one and then gave it a try or borked up the one I was using and decided to give a different distro a go. It wasnt until I started truly implementing it in my server environment where I was then starting to realise that I should pick a distro or lineage and stick with it. That mindset was carried over to desktop platform. I must say that I made the full time conversion to Fedora a couple years ago and frankly could not be any more thrilled. I absolutely love Fedora.
That isnt to say that I dont play around with other distros. I just wont be changing my daily driver anytime soon.
Fedora is great. I personally really like the recent releases of gnome & it feels really nice / clean. Everything works & supports some of the work programs I couldn't get on Debian. Has a superb balance of stability & bleeding edge.
Many might soon consider dual booting distros on separate SSDs or maybe just one SSD and one VM whereas you will always have a stable system at hand while also having your dream car project in the garage to mechanic on I mean your arch distro to configure.
I'm thinking that now, I use fedora 40 as my stable main OS and have arch as a VM, I don't want it to mess up with the grub loader.
I dd Fedora as well, a great experience thus far, it's been a couple of months.
Same here. I've hopped around several distros recently and fedora just works for me out of the box with very little tinkering around. I just don't have the time to customize everything like how I used to back then, I just want a system that works as quickly as possible.
I am a new Linux user and went from Ubuntu to Fedora. Having a lot of fun with it and vanilla Gnome. It's a really powerful and stable OS that can look as beautiful or simple as you want it to. Takes a few minutes to remember to use dnf over apt and boom good to go. sudo works like normal.
I really like Fedora because it is up to date (more than Ubuntu and Debian) but you aren't as much "on your own" as with arch. I can be quite confident that I can just update my system, even without reading all the changelogs and it will still work as well as before or better afterwards (unless it's a manual version upgrade, in which case you should probably find some time in the 7 months you have to see what's different).
I have been quite excited for bcachefs and feel like Fedora is a nice platform to not have to wait 2-8 extra months (like on Ubuntu) without risking too many issues.
I've been using Fedora for the last month, so far it has been awesome!. Everything has been working great, seems to have great stability, and is getting constant updates that haven't messed anything up.....yet.
consider COPR to be a temp solution, for example, qtile doesn't have an official package, so someone compiled one in COPR, but it's always better to have packages within official repositories. COPR maintainers could decide that one working version is good enough and don't compile the latest one.
Way back in the day, before Fedora existed, I tried out Red Hat. Other than Slackware, it was probably the most stable distro I used. Only reason why I used it over Slackware at that time was because it had drivers to support my odd hardware that no other distro had. Now days, that's definitely not the case and I know how to convert rpm and deb packages to something Slackware can use, but as far as I've seen, Red Hat and its various forks are definitely amongst the best. As good of package management as any other distro that actually has a package manager and stable. I would be curious to see your setup too, like which WM or DE do you use and did you setup a color scheme and cursors or just go with a standard option and either way, which?
Have you ever try Mandrake.
@@andibensisva2155 Yeah, a long time ago. I think they renamed it, I want to say to Mandriva, but I'm not 100% sure of that.
Funny how this video came out on my recommended right when I am making a bootable fedora installer from my arch install
My favorite distros are Fedora, Arch, and openSuse tumbleweed. Great choice!
Matt, I'm counting the days for you to come back to Arch... 10, 9, ... Who am I to correct you, but you should take a better backup/restore approach. My 0.01:
1. BTRFS Assistant & Snapper for the root partition
2. Snapper for the separate home partition
3. Backup of .config (and other relevant files)
4. Postscript installation where you could aggregate all your tweak knowledge
Like you, I also do s*it. But I take 1 minute if it could be solved by step 1; 2 minutes if it is a home partition issue (step 2); 5 minutes to pick/restore isolated configs; 20-30 minutes for my all Arcolinux to be up again.
You'll miss Arch...
True, I have been using Arch for 6 months and I learned a lot. I'm on ZFS and I have a script that snapshots my root dataset and my home dataset once I day. I also have a cron job that backups my dotfiles. Fedora is a good distro, but it is not better than Arch imo. I came from Fedora and I do prefer Arch.
I hopped for a long time and never thought to try Fedora. After installing, I never felt like trying another distro. It's probably because it's been more hassle-free than anything else, despite being a pain occasionally.
I'm rocking Fedora 37 Gnome with X1Carbon Gen6.
Omg I really love it, so stable nothing fails, everything except the Webcam worked out of the box.
I'm a backend developer, and I'm much more productive with Fedora's stability❤❤❤
I like fedora. I use opensuse tumbleweed because fedora does a weird thing whenever it suspends on my laptop.
Now I know why I missed your videos,
I forget to subscribe last time xD
I hope that you have rectified this egregious mistake. (Either way, thanks for the comment!)
Welcome Matt! This was my path in linux as well. From Ubuntu to Arch and then to Fedora with tiling WMs. Do not forget to subscribe to askfedora mailing list!
I tested all the Linux distros arch debian/Ubuntu and red hat. The only one I have not tried is Slackware. And to be honest I want something that is new enough that it would be stable. at the same time I don't want anything to new enough I have to update it constantly. Keep in mind arch is a rolling realase. You update it as you go. Vs fedora is a fixed release that gets updated every 6 months. That's way better then Ubuntu because that means you get 2 new fedora versions each year. Meaning for each new Ubuntu release fedora will be ahead by 4 new versions. Also I am a Linux user that has switched from Windows in fedora. Let's just say I am the what you would call middle Linux user. You have the Linux users that want everything to be easy. meaning the whole os gets served to them on a silver plater. However this end up in using a Linux distro that might not be set up the way you like and or be blooted. Vs me I want a simi complex Linux distro. I want it to be customizable. Meaning I want to be able to change the way the os looks. However I don't wanna do alot to change it. I only want to put a medium amount of work for the distro. The con is it might still have things I don't like. And then you have someone like an arch Linux user. These are the type of Linux users that want to build everything from the ground up. The con is you have to do all the work to get a working os. However you do get to control everything in the distro. And since you only put what you want it's not going to be blooted.
I want to use a stable and up-to-date distro as you do. So I switched to Fedora around ten years ago. Until my computer was silent after upgrading it to Fedora 35, I switched to openSUSE. 🤔
Would you recommend someone who is choosing fedora as their first distro- but isn't necessarily new to Linux to go with vanilla out of the box fedora experience or go with the i3 spin?
I just want to use it for programming & developement mostly. And a good WM is what I need
I don't think it matters. If you want gnome to fall back in go with vanilla and install i3. That's what I did.
@@TheLinuxCast I see. Thanks for the input!
If you know how to use i3, fedora is not going to get in your way.
I was on Arch for about 6 years and a few weeks ago I hopped to Fedora after seeing a few videos praising it...and, I have been very happy with it. I have older GPUs, and everything just works right out of the box. And so far nothing has made say "hey I could do this on Arch"... so, until that happens I think Fedora is my home.
Any of the aforementioned " hey I could do this on Arch" moments appear since then?
Fedora would definitely be my next choice if I ended up having major issues on EndeavourOS, though I know I would sorely miss the AUR.
I'm curious to know if the issues you had could have been solved with Timeshift and just reverting the system back to a snapshot a few days ago?
Not that I'm questioning your decision to move to Fedora, whatever works best for you, but if Timeshift has limitations in some situations, it's really good for folks to be aware of what those situations are. Might save people some pain in the future.
He noted in the comments of that other video that he wasn't able to mount a hard drive and therefore reverting didn't work.
Timeshift follows ubuntu style btrfs subvolume like @,@home and so on. Fedora doesn't use that. So you need to do manual btrfs subvolume with that specific way. Then it should work under Fedora.
Good choice Matt! I'm waiting for some Fedora videos coming soon 💪
You could have given openSUSE Tumbleweed a try as an Arch replacement. 🙂
This x1000. As great as Fedora is, I feel like Tumbleweed is criminally underrated, or at least under-covered by most YT channels. Super stable despite being rolling, virtually any desktop you want, and once you get used to YaST for system maintenance and administration, googling for the right terminal command or config file tweak to do relatively simple things seems completely obsolete and amateurish.
@@stephenwilson0386 I agree, do you think the reason it never seems to get much attention from youtubers is because openSUSE is European and most Linux youtubers seem to be American?
I also recently switched to Fedora, even going all the way to a Fedora rpm-ostree spin, Kinoite. I would recommend you look into using Distrobox. Distrobox will let you keep your stable Fedora base and run any Arch package you want from a container. It is extremely low overhead, and integrates seamlessly into the desktop.
Same here. I am using silverblue though. There are handy features ostree and flatpak have that is difficult to achieve in normal version of Fedora, Arch and Ubuntu.
If PipeWire isn't working for you in Fedora it's easy to switch back to pulseaudio. Its just 'dnf swap --allowerasing pipewire-pulseaudio pulseaudio' then reboot.
I have been using Arch for half a year now coming from Fedora and I would not switch back. I've had problems but the problems I had were due to the zfs filesystem with newest kernel versions and an issue I had with nvidia driver once, but now I know how to workaround these issues and it's been a long time since the last one. I had some minor issues finding packages while in Fedora, but it is a good distro. I like it, but Arch suits me better. Btw, I have been using pipewire since I switched to Fedora and kept using it in Arch with no issues. You just install pipewire, pipewire-alsa, pipewire-pulse and pipewire-jack and start the service as a user and sound works perfectly. I'm also using dracut instead of mkinitcpio (another thing that I kept from Fedora) and ZFS is similar to btrfs in some ways.
You will miss rolling release, when I tried to upgrade from Fedora 34 to Fedora 35 it said some of my packages were not available in the new version and I could not upgrade lol. I hate dealing with distro versions and since then I became a huge rolling release fan.
Maybe straying mildly off-topic, but, there's this thing.
Pretty much all Linux installers, when you get to the 'partition my drive' bit, have a "Nuke everything and install just this" option. Which is good, don't get me wrong. But then, you (normally) get a swap partition and a "/" partition and that's it (or on a more recent machine you'll get an EFI partition and the rest.
Just *once* Cinnamon Mint installer asked me if I wanted a separate /home partition which was brilliant but then every reinstall after that on the same machine it never asks, which is odd. I'm going to guess that perhaps the first time I had a clean wiped drive so it asked and after that it chose not to ask but use what was there. But that is not what it tells you in the installer, in my experience, unless I'm reading it wrong. I want it my way, but without having to read all the manuals; I guess is what this lazy git is saying. It surely should not be hard to segue from the "nuke everything and here's our partition layout" to "...and here's what you can change" and then make that menu clear.
Also it seems to be quite hard (not obvious) how to use 'swap file on root' rather than 'swap partition'. Not obviously part of most regular installers. I would guess most that I see are Calimari, but how would I know?
Just a thought, or my 2 micro-euros-worth!
Another issue which might merit a vid is that I would love to big up this old laptop machine properly (slowish i5 with 8GRAM) , but at the moment I'm 'stuck in the middle' with heavyweight desktops that do everything but are *so* slow, or lightweight desktops which lack most of the config I've grown used to.
Am I just shouting "I want it all and I want it now!"?
My first Linux was in college in 1998. I ran Red Hat 5.2 and I've been running Red Hat and now Fedora for years. I did us ubuntu and also Linux Mint on and off, but for the last few years Fedora has been my main go to. Some things did take a little bit more work then on Linux Mint. I run a Minecraft Bedrock server on Fedora, and on Linux Mint it ran right out of the box, on Fedora I had to look at the log and see that there was a missing dependency. Once that was installed everything worked fine. I have a MySQL server running on Fedora, and all my development tools are running fine in Fedora. I still have a few other Linux VMs that I run from time to time, but my main two systems are Fedora and unless something really ugly happens it looks like it is going to stay that way.
The problems you face with arch or anyone with any distro will help people now and in the future if they face the same problems. Fedora is great and the Fedora does a great job of listening to the community and fixing problems pretty quick something that the likes of Manjaro and other distros could learn from.
Welcome to the world of Fedora! You're gonna love it Matt. LOVE IT!!
Have you tried Void Linux? If not, try it it's pretty cool, but kind of a pain in the ass to install and set up tbh. But after it's installed it's a joy to use, imo.
I am forced to switch to pipewire from pulseadio due to random crackling/popping sounds when playing media. I have to replace everything to do with pulseaudio. Even pulseaudio-qt has to replaced even though it's a dependency of KDE connect. I just got rid of KDE connect too since I don't use it anyway. But another thing that made a huge difference on my Linux system running much smoother is replacing the kernel with the latest linux-zen kernel. I did other things and now my Linux PC is running like a dream! 😁
Yeah, Fedora just kind of works. The other distro I considered was OpenSUSE. I have MX on a old T500 and that also works great but on my main desktop I do need latest(ish) kernel.
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed in my opinion is the Arch replacement of choice. Rolling AND stable 💪😌
@@ArniesTech I totally agree on this. Rock stable. The latest packages.
@@ArniesTech Tumbleweed is better than Fedora in many ways, but I feel support for Fedora is better (docs, tutorials, ect). Both Fedora and Tumbleweed work great and if Fedora ever breaks on me I will probably install Tumbleweed.
Good choice! I run silverblue on my work computer and its been rock solid.
I've been using arch since August last year. I've been seeing a couple of RUclipsrs recommending fedora now. I might just try switching to it just to see if Wayland works well and if I can learn to use gnome.
It works well so far, after a month or so. Dunno if nvidia would work well there, haven't tested it yet.
I am still a noob (big time) but was able to get my RTX 2060 super working on Fedora 36 with Wayland using the Nvidia proprietary drivers. My understanding (and I could be seriously wrong), is to enable the RPM non-free repos, but not the RPM non-free Nvidia repos.
@@marinrealestatephotography That not 100% correct. When you install the RPMFusion Non-Free Repos, RPMFusion Non-Free - NVIDIA and Steam also get enabled. At least it was the case for me every time I installed it. Still using my Fedora install daily and I love it. I don't need Arch anymore. It just was too much of a headache for me after some time.
Hi Matt, great video! I use both Arch and Fedora. Although I tend to lean more Arch because you know its all about the AUR. :) I thought you were a dwm user, did you switch back to i3 ? If so, I'd love to hear more on why you switched.
Not a fedora user myself. It came pre-installed on my desktop which I was initially happy about (I was expecting ubuntu) and happily started playing around with fedora, unfortunately, it had an irritating downside of freezing every 20 minutes. I knew that I wasn't the problem as all I had done was run an update with the official repos, a little light web browsing, and some writing. After a day it got worse as the entire OS completely bricked itself, refusing to even boot up despite being a completely stock install with the only added packages being official updates.
My understanding is that this is a very uncommon occurrence with fedora and it is usually much, much more stable than that, but still, I now have opensuse leap on my desktop and RHEL 9 on my laptop, both of which are performing extremely well.
Fedora is so good. There are some specific things you will have to look up, but things that should work will work. I think you will enjoy it.. I'm thinking about hopping back to Arch Linux cause I don't have much to do with my personal machine now that I've started a software engineering job (and need a hobby). But Fedora has served me extremely well during the last year of school for comp sci degree by providing a truly modern experience where I can use it alongside with people who use proprietary OSes without having to get sidetracked with fixing stuff. We had a group project for SW Design where we made a mobile app and it didn't matter that they were on Windows and I could show them a solid Linux experience for development without too much compromise (though I occasionally had to switch to X11 when Discord wouldn't share the screen from Wayland lol)
fedora is a good choice. they are the leading edge in linux technoloogy.
When I last tried Fedora 34, I couldn't get openconnect to work. It's a must-have for me
I use fedora plus nix package manager. Some programs (like alacritty, ueberzug) are not easily available on fedora so I use nix for those
Installed Fedora Jam last night. Seems to run much smoother than Neon + the Ubuntu Studio packages which I've been on for quite a while.
I just hopped over from Fedora 36 to Manjaro. I missed the AUR so much. I have used Fedora for almost 4 years on my work laptop, but now it was time to reinstall it with Manjaro, because of specific AUR packages.
I am using Fedora Silverblue 36. I use flatpak for most of the apps. I can boot into 35 or KDE version without damaging my main OS image. If something doesn't work I can rollback to previous working version. It's great.
Give Fedora a chance. With rpmfusion and flatpak you have all the packages you need.
Went from arch to void and now to fedora over the last year and have had maybe a 1/4 of the general issues on fedora as I've had with the other distributions. I do miss the aur from time to time however, the aur and some of the package wonkyness was some of my original woes to begin with on arch. Been on i3 for all of them and got to say im really pleased with how stable and polished fedora feels out of the box in comparison.
I use Arch on my desktop for gaming, but Fedora for my production laptop. Since I have an Ubuntu system at work (so the Windows techs can have training wheels), my Surface Go runs Ubuntu as well. Finally stopped playing the one DRM ridden shooter game that had me still running Windows in dual boot, so Linux is all I use anymore.
I chose Fedora Fxce as my daily driver because of stability and (b)leading edge software and kernel. My distro-hopping days are over too, though i've still have to check out about every new distro that comes up... ;-)
I have been using Fedora for the past 2 weeks and it works great when I am playing cyberpunk 2077 on steam and is really stable when I doing video conference and when i am doing programming with Visual code.....
There is so many bugs when i play cyberpunk 2077 and counter strike on steam with Linux Mint and connecting my Xbox controller is a nightmare
A time ago, when i switched to linux in my study/work machine, i fall in love with Manjaro and Arch. But with the time running, i got tired of problems. I tried Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint, etc... Now im on Zorin and it works perfect for now.
I disagree that Fedora is the new Arch. I'd rather see Tumbleweed there. But I agree that Fedora is an awesome candidate for a daily driver distro to simply get stuff done without headache 💪😌
@Mateo OpenSUSE is not without its bloat either, my friend 😅😉
@Mateo True that 🙏
@@ArniesTech On an openSUSE install you can actually pick and choose exactly what you want to install, you can choose a full desktop, or a minimal desktop, or just a window manager, or no desktop at all, you can even choose not to install recommended packages leaving you with a very slim system, for example I use LXQt with Kwin and I don't have any GTK libraries install on my system at all.
@@benjy288 this is true indeed. But if you uncheck certain components like App Armor the installer will not let you continue ☺
Welcome home :)
If you end up using sway on Fedora, I would love a video on your set up process
I love Arch and I'm especially fond of the AUR. I was using Endeavour for the better part of a year along with always trying the new shiny things that came out. I installed Fedora shortly before 36 came out and something about it just stuck. Enabling RPM fusion and Flathub are the next best thing to the AUR in my opinion. Extremely stable. Everything just works
If you still get that Arch itching, install Arch through distrobox. You will get AUR without worrying about the main system.
@@JahidulIslam salaam, never used distrobox before. Always been a bare metal guy but distrobox seems really interesting
@@Blessed2bFresh it's similar to toolbox included with Fedora. It gives you option to run various Linux distro inside a podman container with GUI app support.
@@JahidulIslam appreciate that. I've used boxes for a virtual machine 2 or 3 times but when I get to my laptop I'll give toolboxes a search
I switched from Arch to Fedora Silverblue, which is pretty much the complete opposite of Arch.
Arch was great, but at some point I needed to reinstall it - not because of stability reasons, I just switched from Intel to AMD.
I thought about the install process, spending days scrolling through the (still amazing) arch wiki to figure out what packages I need for all the hardware to work correctly, then rummaging through /etc to tie all of it together... it just felt like a chore.
I gave fedora a shot and never looked back. It has fresh enough packages, sane defaults, cool new tech like pipewire and ostree, focuses on flatpaks and in the silverblue spin it's pretty much unbreakable. I tried distrohopping since switching to fedora but I always came back.
I use Garuda. It's stable and includes pipewire out of the box
Fedora is great. Rock solid and bleeding edge. Years will go by as you enjoy your distro in peace.
Copr (Cool Other Package Repo) is a Fedora project to help make building and managing third party package repositories easy.
Add that COPR also is a good place to improve the packaging process with its review feature should a maintainer wish to include their package in the main Fedora repository.
I bet you're gonna be back on Arch in a month. Just my guess.
I wouldn't take that bet. 😂
Your perfect linux distribution would be one that boots directly into Krusader with some weird Krusader plugin that allowed you to record videos directly from it.
Brilliant. I'd so use that.
Thanks brotatochip.
I've had both the pacman and systemd break on arch to the point that they could no longer be recovered.
I've noticed on the past that fedora prefers to use stale web stack components, only for major version shifts though. Something about not breaking the internet.
Idk, I have been using Arch Linux for 2 months and it has not broken… yet. I am using a tactic to not break my system and that is. I use a virtual machine (virtual box) and then I install arch linux and I also install everything I have on my main arch. Now my daily driver has an identical clone on a virtual machine. So if I want to install a package, I first do it on my virtual machine, then I reboot it. If it doesn’t break, I will do the same on my main arch. And that’s how you should manage your Arch Linux.
KDE Fedora had problems with a game I was playing, I switched back to Kubuntu.
The only thing I find strange is that you're using Fedora when you could possibly use opensuse Tumbleweed and it's exactly the same. Nothing bad it's just I would prefer it
Yes, tumbleweed is the logical choice as its a rolling release, but easier and more stable than Arch in my experience.
openSUSE TW is an alternativ. i chamged from arch to openSUSE TW. i had tried fedore. it was to stressfull for me. and YAST ist realy awsome
Tumbleweed is great and I don't even have Yast installed.
I been on fedora since the core days I never had any desire to leave. If I want to distro hop I just do it in a VM. Make sure you add the RPMFussion repository the only programe I ever build is OBS and that's because I don't like the one in flathub
I installed Arch Linux with KDE on Wayland in my laptop with Intel 11gen CPU, and for the most part it works for me as daily driver except when it comes to playing RUclips videos with HW GPU acceleration, it's just unreliable and has many issues. I wasted a lot of time trying to fix it. Unfortunately only works with workarounds if I disable HW decoding, which uses more CPU which is fine at docked setup with external power supply or relogin into X11/Xorg session. Pipewire works for me just fine but don't do any music mixing/editing, just listening.
COPR isn't a great repo for what you're looking for. You should check out RPM fusion instead, and there's always flatpaks and flathub too which have improved significantly lately.
While the AUR is substantial and awesome, COPR Repository is also real good. Why Fedora 34 though instead of 36? 36 is good bro.
Did he say he installed 34? That would seem strange. if 34 is not EOL, it is weeks or a month or 2 away at most. Fedora supports 2.x versions at a time, and 34 is 3 versions old. Which really makes me wonder, what happens with old unsupported OSes. Like does someone maintain archives that would allow someone to see what fedora 10 looked like?
I may give Fedora a go again, been about 10 years. That being said; I REALLY appreciate rolling distros and while updates on arch can occasionally break stuff, the fact that Im still running images of the original arch install I did in 2015 on all my systems simply blows my mind. I used to spend so much time reinstalling OS's or distro hopping that I wasn't getting work done.
These days I may spend an hour a month correcting something that broke through an update, but no longer do I spend a week updating or reinstalling to the latest release across all my systems when releases drop.
I am using Fedora 31 since 2019 and now running 36(same installation, 2 different PC and GPU) I only need to uninstall proton vpn rpm package once during all this major version upgrade.
I am also using silverblue on a secondary ssd. If it become more user friendly, I don't have to worry that much during major upgrade.
Love Fedora 36 one of the best I've experienced
I use pipewire and after the initial tinkering for 20 minutes it works pretty well
Did you ever try slackware? If you did, plz let me know what you think of it?
I recently moved from Manjaro to Pure Arch with i3gaps. Yes, it was painful, but I learned a great deal more, as Each package depends on something (esp yay, we need to check "yay -Si" before we even want to install that package.) Red Hat... Fedora, well, they now owned by Big Blue, right? Anyway, each his own.
I like things that work. That's why Arch btw was never an option for me.
Realistically, we dare a distro to give us a reason to dump their ass for Arch.
I can't stand being without Arch. Arch made me lazy & rusty too and looking back can safely agree with you that AUR is a contributing factor in my dust collection, but by no means will blame the AUR as the personal dependency on its services is voluntary and will definitely continue.
ATM I am also trying Fedora Workstation (tried out SilverBlue yesterday, but glitches). So far, FW is running and handling everything remarkably well. Red Hat Home Edition was my first ever installed Linux distro 20+ years ago - kind of like coming home. I want SilverBlue to come around because it has some seriously awesome potential, but for now Workstation has the lead.
Good vid.