I mean, he is kinda right... Taking the Konpeki job was stupid. Even V admits that several times during main story and the DLC. V and Jackie were two inconsequential klepto-punks that thought they could take on the world. Everyone involved in that Heist was doomed even if it had gone according to the plan.
@Vipus2501 Well, rubbing that in V's face was uncalled for, but you are right. Anyone with a brain shouldn't go head first into a gig where you steal expensive, prized, one of a kind technology from the world's most infamous and biggest megacorp. In a way it's Jackie's fault. He was desperate to reach the "big leagues" but didn't stop and think about how some fixer who disappeared for two years and is shady as fuck wasn't odd to him. Not to mention Dex took a large portion of the cut. And V, gullible guy he is, followed his best friend and even shared some of his dreams.
@@Vipus2501explains why V was low key irritable during that Delamaine ride. Jackie’s go-lucky attitude battling the gut instinct that it’s all gonna go to sh*t. Who could steal a prized tech from Saburo and get away with it? Chances were slim, bar none.
@@johnny4221 You hear Reed slipping in dialogue several times, usually when V is not doing what he wants, then he tries the next angle. For the three professional agents V is just an asset to be recruited. All three (four with Myers) of them constantly try to push Vs buttons, to get her as an asset on their side. Songbird with the "Cure"-Carrot and later with the Brooklyn-Sob-Story. That is what even Alex is doing with the dance, too. As Myers is doing with behaving like a war buddy, when they are on the run. Strong "Homeland" vibes. As Johnny says in the beginning: "You are up against seasoned players. Just don't get played." Superb writing.
That minor league merc remark is what sealed his fate. My 60 level full chromed out V who had solo raided Arasaka 5 times by then took this very personal!
V might be a badass in combat due to having the Chip and Johnny in their heads, but they are still just a "merc in diapers" as they Rockerboy puts it. Doesn't have the contacts and influence as someone in Rogue's level. Even at the top of their game, V still ends up being Blue Eyes pawn, willing to do anything in hope of a cure that might not even exist.
@@Vipus2501After the Sun ending V is pretty much the new Rogue for starters. And what make you think they end up as Blue Eyes pawn? He had a job and V accepted textbook solo behavior. The difference is that they got that job to begin with because no one else besides them would have even the slightest chance to pull it off. And that alone makes them the best in the business at that point. And it’s a stupid comment from Reed regardless. He calls V a middle tier merc when he relied on their connections to get them into the Black Sapphire or breach Maxtac ICE. Whilst him and Myers took the backseat as always.
@@Vipus2501 I disagree, V prior to solo mission against Arasaka, can be considered to be the most skillfull merc out there when working alone. Rogue even backs this up as while V's reputation is questionable due to DeShawn's failed plans, she admits that V is better off working alone, and even fixers around NC praise V's work with the upmost respect, so they definitely have contacts. That "Rocker-boy" isn't the most reliable source, as his own ego overestimates the events he has. Not to mention, in terms of feats, Silverhand is arguably rustier than V, and often relies on Rogue to get plans done smoothly. Hell, Mr. Hands, one of the most eloquent fixers can be influenced by V's work, that he manages to get blueprints of the Black Sapphire, something that not even Reed or any NUSA agent(apart from V) could ever get their hands on.
If this is how he patronized Song and Alex after everytime they didn’t do something according to his liking no wonder they wanna run as far as possible from him now.
Reed means well, but he had his head up his ass. He cares about So Mi and Alex but he takes it upon himself to think what is best for them. It only gets worse because it didn't take much for Myers to drag Reed into the game. Reed will whine how Myers fucked him, but at the end of the day, Reed still ends up following her anyway because he is a tin soldier who is all about 'for my country'.
@@korawitbuttramee618Facts, I loved when Johnny and V were having the debate about ideals. Working in defense/government you have to adopt a strong conviction in order to remain sane while doing degenerate activities. “I’ll do anything for my country” will have you back stabbing, setting up team mates, “necessary” civilian casualties etc. Without that strong ideal they could never last because you begin to wonder if it’s worth it. Really shows how strong convictions/ideals can only get you so far. Maybe you need to break away from it sometimes but if done so, it’s no longer a conviction.
I wish there was a dialogue option to say "Bitch, I'm from Night City, I'm not an NUSA citizen, get yourself fucked like militech did when they tried to invade." click.
At this point Reed is pretty much threatening a T-800. You don't threaten a T-800 unless you know without a shadow of a doubt that you can take it down.
I would consider him a bad man. The guy either KNEW or LEARNS that Myers is behind So Mi being "entangled" with the Blackwall AI protocols. YET he treats her, according to Myers wishes. That's not only a betrayal - but it's evil! So Mi - if taken alive will be left off to "a fate worse than death" according to her own words. And Reed practically verifies it if you take her in alive. He tells you that the blackwall has destroyed so much of her neural network AND that the AI neural matrix that she got - couldn't save her - so YOU get the option to have it save YOU. But he tells you that she's alive and might even return to active duty... That means she becomes a PAWN... That is the actions of a bad man....
@@williammoutchia9292 Reed has been a in the spy game longer... V however at this point is the single most lethal cybernetically advanced killing machine in night city, possibly the entire world, who can eat maxtac like tictacs and murder Adam Smasher and a legion of arasaka's finest.
1:49 The way V calmly interrupts Reed's threatening to kill a few scavs, then casually calls back to let him finish like it's a friendly conversation. Edit: Just to say f you and hang up a few seconds later.
I roleplay my V as a survivor's guilt bearer, feeling deeply guilty about Jackie's demise and trying to make up for it. And this, this was when Reed sealed his fate of being served a handful of hot lead.
I knew right from the get go what kind of man Reed was as I have come across so many people like him and I'm only 23 years old but I decided to give him a chance because especially finding out corrupted Myers was but as soon as he fucking mentioned Jackie in a attempt to Manipulate me i realized how much of a fucking user, manipulator, and Hypocrite he was and it was right then automatically I knew i made the Right decision sideing with Songbird and when the final confrontation between the 2 and I pulled the trigger.....I muted my controller so V couldnt say anything because when I killed Reed i felt absolutely nothing but satisfaction I've never hated a fictional character with a passion since Homelander and every time I play the Dlc I always go for reeds Head and that's what I look for in a antagonist especially in a Rpg game like this to feel hate for the antagonist and it's this type of interaction in this that makes this my all time favorite Video game and I can't wait for Cyberpunk Orion and where they take this world next
My 1st play through siding with Song Bird and using that same response. When he mentioned Jackie like that I was like: "You just signed your own death warrant. I hope you find me now."
@@d00dh_wala17killing so mi is the best option, neither AIs/myers could abuse her anymore, reed will no longer have his dumbass stockholm syndrome but ofc alex and song dies so theres that
Yeah agreed.. You don't really get to explore different personalities, you're unfortunately locked in pretty deep into CD Project Red's V :/ One of the games downsides...
does the D stand for dick in your "smh" modification? lmao if that is the case, unironically very creative and funny. audibly laughed at the idea, which is a very rare occassion for youtube comments. kudos homie
The minor league merc helped him out with getting into the black sapphire, saved his loathsome president asses, escaped from Hansen soldiers, and so on. On top of that, despite being naive (and may be an airhead), he underestimated V who ended up eliminating FIA soldiers. He definitely didn't know V.
I loved how these calls confirmed to me I was doing the right choice. He seemed more upset over the fact So-Mi got away with betraying NUSA/Myers than So-Mi herself. Proved he was still a loyal dog even after all that had happened. I still really liked Reed as a character but can't help but side with So-Mi everytime.
@@mencobasukses97Desperately trying to survive, just like V. Never understood why so many people try to take digs at Songbird as if V is a saint his or herself, lol. They'd lie to and use anyone in a heartbeat if it meant ridding themselves of the Relic and getting their lives back.
@@mencobasukses97 I can’t agree with that in good conscience, as Ultimately So-Mi trusted V by telling them the truth just before getting to the rocket, and literally leaving her fate in V’s hands, knowing there was a good chance V would ditch her because of that betrayal. For me, that ultimate display of trust, I just can’t let her down. As for Reed… that line about growing up and taking responsibility, V should have rebuttaled with Reed’s own failings with Alex, how Reed left her in Dogtown. The Jackie line really did seal Reed’s fate for me, not a chance I’m letting that slide, not after the Offerenda we gave Jackie. (I apologise to any Latin Americans if I butchered the name of that ceremony)
@@mencobasukses97 It's not saving V either in that case I'm afraid. They're down a weapon so they use you as a sleeper agent and remove your ability to use cyberwear afterwards. That and literally all your friends have moved on. That ain't worth it imo.
Take in mind this is before V storming 'saka's tower. And by that moment V's biggest score (Konpeki Plaza) was a fiasco. So Reed has reason while saying V's a sorta small fry, he hasn't shown any big feat before Arasaka Tower.
@@notthedeadweight Reed still ignored dozens of cyberpsychos taken alive, gigs from all big fixers, crime scenes cleared and a few hundred gang members killed 3:25 by that one single little merc.
@@Kosogoat First off, the Psychos thing is something that only Regina and her crew should know. And second of all, Reed works for the government and the government works along with Militech, so it doesn't matter what amount of work or for who you worked, someone with the help of a big corpo and the government is more than enough. I don't mean that they together would stand against V, but from Reed's perspective, V is no rival for such power.
@@notthedeadweight I am more than certain that a word of a merc causing "mayhem" across the city spreads fast, besides that the psycho cases are well known with barricades, witnesees and dozens of victims on scene. I still think that V with enough motivation (Happy Vergil) coulnd't be stopped with anything short of a saturaion bombardment or an ICBM so Mayer's authority means nothing if not to authorize such a response to V and Dogtown exists...her Myersty coulnd't do sht bout it.
"Is that what you told Welles in Konpeki Plaza too?" I wish you could come back to that with a list of all the big things you've done, and basically just go "If the corps can't do it, you think the NUSA can get me? Who do you think your bosses work for?" Something cool and edgy like that. Soon as Reed mentioned Jackie, I knew I was going to side with SoMi Fully. What's crazy is Reed took two revolver shots to the head on that final mission segment so who's laughing now Reed?
Reed singing that same manipulative song. Like he did to So Mi at 19, to Slider when he forced him to connect to the Blackwall, and to V. He blackmails so well, he even got himself to believe he’s doing it for the good of his country. Even then… I still side with Reed during Firestarter. Neither Myers nor Mr. Blue Eyes will get to keep Songbird as their Blackwall experiment project. Best way for her to be free is death… and all V can do in those few months left, learn all the dets on Project Cynosure and the secret battle against rogue AIs.
Preach, brotha. So Mi will be looking down on us from the other side, thanking us for finally granting her the best freedom we could give her. Even if it isn’t the one she hoped for…
My friend took that end on his playthrough, got the jackie quote. I heard him do the end he yelled down the mic "KEEP JACKIES NAME OUT YO F###IN MOUTH" it was one of the most random but also funniest things ive ever heard.
Same lol. Shot bro in the face expeditiously and sent that bitch to the moon. I saw it as a "no hard feelings" option that felt legit and the guy gives the most dickhead response possible.
"Minor league merc" Excuse me Solomon, who was it that saved the President again? Who was your entire plan built around? Who was responsible for every success you've had so far? Who was that again Solomon?
Threatening V has gotta be the dumbest way to try to persuade him. V doesn't negotiate to save his own skin. He negotiates to potentially avoid a slaughter. When you threaten him you give him all the justification he needs to flatline you and your entire crew. This dude knows nothing about persuasion tactics and it shows. You can't win over someone with V's personality through intimidation.
2:50 "jackie welles" "take responsibility for you and for others" a man like reed thought long and hard about saying that, knowing V attended Jackie's ofrenda, the remorse he shares with others on T-bug, the anxiety he had in the elevator to Hansen's party. Out of all the people who wronged V, this no doubt was the single worst thing anyone has ever said to him and it only here during the entire convo and for almost 99% of the game where V has nothing left to say to him, sad
When he killed the Twin Netrunners when it wasn't necessary (he could have hidden them somewhere, kept them drugged, etc.), I knew right then and there that siding with Reed wasn't going to be a good idea, so I sided with Songbird. "Is that what you told Welles at Konpeki Plaza, too?" When I got that response, that further gave me proof that Reed is not mine or Songbird's friend.
As Reed was being thrown into the void, a warrior of true strength exclaims his goodbyes "bum bum be-dum bum bum be-dum bum" the warrior said as Reeds body was thrown off the bridge
Low blow Reed. But Idris Elba made a awesome job voicing. You can really feel the pain coming through. He knows it's wrong but he still can't say no to NUSA. It's really a shame that the only way to send Songbird to the Moon is through him but after that train ride I just couldn't say no to So Mi. Of course sending her to meet with another likely AI might not be the best thing for her...
My greatest regret with PL was that we didn't get a proper bossfight with Reed. Shooting him in a QTE was nowhere as satisfying. edit: to clarify, I'm not saying I'd like to have a boss fight exactly in place of the QTE, it indeed wouldn't work in that context, I'm saying Reed could have been placed elsewhere. Maybe there could have been a bossfight instead of that segment when V and Songbird use Blackwall to defeat NUSA troops?
Completely disagreed having a boss fight would have utterly taken away from the intensity of the moment. This isn't some generic badguy boss to fight this was a guy you worked with since damn near the beginning and now you have to make the choice between him or Songbird. A bossfight would have completely ruined the highly intense emotional standoff during Killing Moon.
You can kill Reed and Myers in the safehouse just as they are making their escape from Dogtown. So Mi would presumably either die in Hansen's tender care (I don't know if it's weird or not that of the four I kinda like Hansen the most) or from her condition and not being able to get the cure on her own.
If you ignore the president's downed plane and never go to save Myers, you can leave her to die and Songbird angry at you. It skips most of PL's main story but it leaves Myers dead, Reed living his crappy life under cover, and Songbird still in a bind probably to die without your help.
I was just gonna let the threats slide since Reed seemed to still be a chill character but when he mentioned what happened in konpeki I TOOK THAT SHIT PERSONALLY
I feel like Jackie would’ve turned on us after the heist, because of Dexter and all that stuff, wouldn’t want to risk moms, or misty, and he was too ambitious, nothing would stand in his way to becoming a night city legend
Remember that time when V can absolutely scare the tar out of some scavs to help Aldecado homies? Bet they looked more pissed at that moment - I just love the headcanon that V can go from nice to threatening in a second. Homie walking around more chromed up than Smasher, on god.
i reckon johnny listened to that and instantly took everything he said about reed n him being one in the same back and now wanted to instead of storming arasaka storm reed 💀
I love in the ending where you side first with him but then kill So Mi you get a call from him to meet up at the court. V can be like "So came to finish me or what?" (Because he killed Songbird and didnt turn her in alive.) He says pretty much "V if I wanted you dead you would be dead you aint Morgan Blackhand." Id wish you could have responded to that "No I aint. Im better then him." They kinda nerfed V here bit probably thought "Nah we cant make Idris a wimp."
Of course, a Merc in the circuit since few month, unable to finish their first big Job (Yes the Konpeki was a failure, the objectives weren't accomplished) and having all their crew being killed is more legendary, experienced, able and credible than the best Merc ever known in existance, the one who basically became the most legendary of all during a period where being great wasn't even enough to survive as a Merc: AKA the 4th Corpo War, this exact same war where Smasher became a Legend
Bro...V is a big deal, there is no denying that. But Morgan Blackhand is literally the protagonist of the cyberpunk world. He is already very powerful and he doesn't have that much cyberware on him.
i think the nearest possible outcome for that is to not go to the myers' crash site. It will end myers, save reed but angers songbird. not sure what hansen will do to her though.
Skippy saved V from making the decision, instead of V killing reed, He can can blame it on skippy as a technical malfunction. Skippy: are you happy with the autonomous shooting function? Please jump to confirm
I was considering allying with Reed on my second playthrough but after hearing him Mention Jackie like that I think I might have reservations about that. Maybe this time I'll aim for the torso instead so he has a few seconds to think about how he failed before he dies.
“You would have been wise to keep Jackie’s name out of your mouth. You just crossed a line you’re going to wish you hadn’t Reed. Run back to Rosalind before I send you back to your maker.”
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The silence from V after Reed had the audacity to mention Jackie...
I can just imagine V thinking of 1,000 ways to kill Reed after that.
i didnt like reed before but i didnt see that line in my playthrough, now i like him even less
I mean, he is kinda right... Taking the Konpeki job was stupid. Even V admits that several times during main story and the DLC.
V and Jackie were two inconsequential klepto-punks that thought they could take on the world. Everyone involved in that Heist was doomed even if it had gone according to the plan.
@Vipus2501 Well, rubbing that in V's face was uncalled for, but you are right.
Anyone with a brain shouldn't go head first into a gig where you steal expensive, prized, one of a kind technology from the world's most infamous and biggest megacorp.
In a way it's Jackie's fault. He was desperate to reach the "big leagues" but didn't stop and think about how some fixer who disappeared for two years and is shady as fuck wasn't odd to him. Not to mention Dex took a large portion of the cut.
And V, gullible guy he is, followed his best friend and even shared some of his dreams.
@@Vipus2501explains why V was low key irritable during that Delamaine ride. Jackie’s go-lucky attitude battling the gut instinct that it’s all gonna go to sh*t. Who could steal a prized tech from Saburo and get away with it? Chances were slim, bar none.
@@johnny4221 You hear Reed slipping in dialogue several times, usually when V is not doing what he wants, then he tries the next angle. For the three professional agents V is just an asset to be recruited. All three (four with Myers) of them constantly try to push Vs buttons, to get her as an asset on their side. Songbird with the "Cure"-Carrot and later with the Brooklyn-Sob-Story. That is what even Alex is doing with the dance, too. As Myers is doing with behaving like a war buddy, when they are on the run. Strong "Homeland" vibes. As Johnny says in the beginning: "You are up against seasoned players. Just don't get played." Superb writing.
That minor league merc remark is what sealed his fate. My 60 level full chromed out V who had solo raided Arasaka 5 times by then took this very personal!
V might be a badass in combat due to having the Chip and Johnny in their heads, but they are still just a "merc in diapers" as they Rockerboy puts it. Doesn't have the contacts and influence as someone in Rogue's level. Even at the top of their game, V still ends up being Blue Eyes pawn, willing to do anything in hope of a cure that might not even exist.
@@Vipus2501After the Sun ending V is pretty much the new Rogue for starters.
And what make you think they end up as Blue Eyes pawn? He had a job and V accepted textbook solo behavior. The difference is that they got that job to begin with because no one else besides them would have even the slightest chance to pull it off. And that alone makes them the best in the business at that point. And it’s a stupid comment from Reed regardless. He calls V a middle tier merc when he relied on their connections to get them into the Black Sapphire or breach Maxtac ICE. Whilst him and Myers took the backseat as always.
@@Vipus2501 I disagree, V prior to solo mission against Arasaka, can be considered to be the most skillfull merc out there when working alone. Rogue even backs this up as while V's reputation is questionable due to DeShawn's failed plans, she admits that V is better off working alone, and even fixers around NC praise V's work with the upmost respect, so they definitely have contacts. That "Rocker-boy" isn't the most reliable source, as his own ego overestimates the events he has. Not to mention, in terms of feats, Silverhand is arguably rustier than V, and often relies on Rogue to get plans done smoothly.
Hell, Mr. Hands, one of the most eloquent fixers can be influenced by V's work, that he manages to get blueprints of the Black Sapphire, something that not even Reed or any NUSA agent(apart from V) could ever get their hands on.
AIIIIEEEEEE CERBERUS-SAMA PLEASE DON'T PENETRATE ME
@@cock9149 Lol with a comment like that your name fits you
The Skippy voicelines keep killing me man. That shit's too funny.
*Reed threatening V*
“Gotta delta, later.”
“As you were saying?”
Bro really just hung up on the guy threatening V and Songbird because he could
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Took a break to kill some Scavs, way more important
"Is that what you told Welles at Konpeki?"
I like Reed but holy fuck even if this wasn't my playthrough my rage genuinely spiked hearing that
I didn't know he said this and now I don't even feel a little bit bad for killing him, keep Jackie's name out of your fucking mouth.
might just start the game over just to fuck reed up over this
I know this is overused a lot but I wanted to shout “KEEP MY CHOOM’S NAME OUT YOUR F***ING MOUTH!!!”
That was a low blow. For that alone, V should flatline Reed.
Man. What a great game, great writing and world building that they could make us feel so strongly about these characters.
If this is how he patronized Song and Alex after everytime they didn’t do something according to his liking no wonder they wanna run as far as possible from him now.
Right especially the comment about jackie i shot him on that playthrough cause of those words alone
Right? He acts chummy only as far enough to let him fulfill his obligations to the NUSA. The moment you don't bend, he shows his self.
Reed means well, but he had his head up his ass. He cares about So Mi and Alex but he takes it upon himself to think what is best for them. It only gets worse because it didn't take much for Myers to drag Reed into the game. Reed will whine how Myers fucked him, but at the end of the day, Reed still ends up following her anyway because he is a tin soldier who is all about 'for my country'.
@@korawitbuttramee618Facts, I loved when Johnny and V were having the debate about ideals. Working in defense/government you have to adopt a strong conviction in order to remain sane while doing degenerate activities. “I’ll do anything for my country” will have you back stabbing,
setting up team mates, “necessary” civilian casualties etc. Without that strong ideal they could never last because you begin to wonder if it’s worth it.
Really shows how strong convictions/ideals can only get you so far. Maybe you need to break away from it sometimes but if done so, it’s no longer a conviction.
I wish there was a dialogue option to say "Bitch, I'm from Night City, I'm not an NUSA citizen, get yourself fucked like militech did when they tried to invade." click.
Reed's not a bad man, but damn is he a vicious dog of one. Unfortunately for him, V is probably more terrifying than he could ever imagine.
At this point Reed is pretty much threatening a T-800. You don't threaten a T-800 unless you know without a shadow of a doubt that you can take it down.
@@MR.LMR1996Why would Reed back down from V? He’s been in the game way longer than them
@@williammoutchia9292 Aye. Yet V has no chill and a body count to match Reed's experience.
I would consider him a bad man. The guy either KNEW or LEARNS that Myers is behind So Mi being "entangled" with the Blackwall AI protocols. YET he treats her, according to Myers wishes.
That's not only a betrayal - but it's evil! So Mi - if taken alive will be left off to "a fate worse than death" according to her own words.
And Reed practically verifies it if you take her in alive. He tells you that the blackwall has destroyed so much of her neural network AND that the AI neural matrix that she got - couldn't save her - so YOU get the option to have it save YOU. But he tells you that she's alive and might even return to active duty...
That means she becomes a PAWN... That is the actions of a bad man....
@@williammoutchia9292 Reed has been a in the spy game longer... V however at this point is the single most lethal cybernetically advanced killing machine in night city, possibly the entire world, who can eat maxtac like tictacs and murder Adam Smasher and a legion of arasaka's finest.
1:49 The way V calmly interrupts Reed's threatening to kill a few scavs, then casually calls back to let him finish like it's a friendly conversation.
Edit: Just to say f you and hang up a few seconds later.
That was funny as shit 😂
2:53 the silence was loud on this one
Oh im sure V would kill Reed for this.
I roleplay my V as a survivor's guilt bearer, feeling deeply guilty about Jackie's demise and trying to make up for it. And this, this was when Reed sealed his fate of being served a handful of hot lead.
That’s how I do my V who’s a nomad since Jackie and mama wells were the only family he had when he came to night city
I knew right from the get go what kind of man Reed was as I have come across so many people like him and I'm only 23 years old but I decided to give him a chance because especially finding out corrupted Myers was but as soon as he fucking mentioned Jackie in a attempt to Manipulate me i realized how much of a fucking user, manipulator, and Hypocrite he was and it was right then automatically I knew i made the Right decision sideing with Songbird and when the final confrontation between the 2 and I pulled the trigger.....I muted my controller so V couldnt say anything because when I killed Reed i felt absolutely nothing but satisfaction I've never hated a fictional character with a passion since Homelander and every time I play the Dlc I always go for reeds Head and that's what I look for in a antagonist especially in a Rpg game like this to feel hate for the antagonist and it's this type of interaction in this that makes this my all time favorite Video game and I can't wait for Cyberpunk Orion and where they take this world next
I jizzed😊
My 1st play through siding with Song Bird and using that same response. When he mentioned Jackie like that I was like: "You just signed your own death warrant. I hope you find me now."
“Arrogance can be blinding” couldn’t agree more.
Your arrogance BLINDS you
@@LaCokaNostra_ i find your lack of faith... *disturbing*
"We could have helped her..." Yeah, giving her to Myers until she dies as a weapon is really helping her, Captain Deluded.
Reeds deluded but so is V. Sending a free will nuke to the moon is the dumbest shit imaginable.
Meh, we will see that in the sequel for sure
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@@brodygray744 yea i played for multiple endings and wasnt satisfied with any of them. Guess thats how life in NC works
@@d00dh_wala17killing so mi is the best option, neither AIs/myers could abuse her anymore, reed will no longer have his dumbass stockholm syndrome but ofc alex and song dies so theres that
@@slizika3245 letting myers die at the beginning of phatom liberty is definitely the best thing you can do - for everyone
I just wish v had more chances to flex how strong he is in conversations because reed was talking too spicy this expansión
I think so too.
V is already cocky enough💀
Yeah agreed.. You don't really get to explore different personalities, you're unfortunately locked in pretty deep into CD Project Red's V :/ One of the games downsides...
Forreal, lol. Bro was talking too reckless. They should've let us cook.
In a thousand playthroughs, I would f*ck Reed up in every single of them in a heart beat
2:23 A minor league merc huh? Bro did more for NUSA in like 2 weeks than the entire FIA combined, smd :D
Calm down man💀💀
Now that's a low blow😂😂
Just like helping river finding peter pans "farm"
does the D stand for dick in your "smh" modification? lmao
if that is the case, unironically very creative and funny. audibly laughed at the idea, which is a very rare occassion for youtube comments. kudos homie
Sleeper agent?? Now stay asleep
The minor league merc helped him out with getting into the black sapphire, saved his loathsome president asses, escaped from Hansen soldiers, and so on. On top of that, despite being naive (and may be an airhead), he underestimated V who ended up eliminating FIA soldiers. He definitely didn't know V.
V is also capable of a 1v1 with Arasaka on their home turf.
The Fia really didn't have chance with V *_and_* So mi
Just skippy singing when V throws reed is everything
bringing up Jackie was a low blow
I loved how these calls confirmed to me I was doing the right choice. He seemed more upset over the fact So-Mi got away with betraying NUSA/Myers than So-Mi herself. Proved he was still a loyal dog even after all that had happened. I still really liked Reed as a character but can't help but side with So-Mi everytime.
in the end, So-Mi used you
@@mencobasukses97Desperately trying to survive, just like V. Never understood why so many people try to take digs at Songbird as if V is a saint his or herself, lol. They'd lie to and use anyone in a heartbeat if it meant ridding themselves of the Relic and getting their lives back.
@@FALpacino exactly, to me, it's either her or my V, and since it's very clear what her intention was, might as well save my V, it always comes first
@@mencobasukses97 I can’t agree with that in good conscience, as Ultimately So-Mi trusted V by telling them the truth just before getting to the rocket, and literally leaving her fate in V’s hands, knowing there was a good chance V would ditch her because of that betrayal. For me, that ultimate display of trust, I just can’t let her down. As for Reed… that line about growing up and taking responsibility, V should have rebuttaled with Reed’s own failings with Alex, how Reed left her in Dogtown. The Jackie line really did seal Reed’s fate for me, not a chance I’m letting that slide, not after the Offerenda we gave Jackie.
(I apologise to any Latin Americans if I butchered the name of that ceremony)
@@mencobasukses97 It's not saving V either in that case I'm afraid. They're down a weapon so they use you as a sleeper agent and remove your ability to use cyberwear afterwards.
That and literally all your friends have moved on. That ain't worth it imo.
2:52 - after that line I finished the bastard in the End with zero hesitation.
2:52 Too soon Reed. That had to have been a week ago lol.
Another clown that believes the game happened in 2 weeks😂 Y'all seriously need to stop believing your ridiculous theories
Try 2 to 3 weeks, possibly longer. I believe Robert Wilson even mentions this very early in the story once you go see him for the first time in Act 2.
@@FALpacinostill too soon.
He was dead to me the moment he mentioned Jackie
Exactly my thought.
damn i just wanted to save alex not to shoot up the entire air port
Same, I wish that we didn’t have to do that
@@williammoutchia9292myers shot up the airport
To be fair, our Vs didn't go "no Russian" on the airport, Myers' soldiers did.
@@huyhuy3837 it was also a foreseeable act V should have expected of her. Not that there was much choice in it, but 🤷
Reed deadass waited for you to kill those guys to keep to telling off!🤣
That last touch was gold man. Tossing him into the abyss below like so much trash. RIH Reed. Enjoy retirement.....in hell.
Also with Skippy reciting "Bum bum be dum bum bum be dum bum"
If Blackhand waa the solo of solos 50 years ago, V is the cyberpsycho of cyberpsychos in 2077. What does Reed think he can even do?
Take in mind this is before V storming 'saka's tower. And by that moment V's biggest score (Konpeki Plaza) was a fiasco.
So Reed has reason while saying V's a sorta small fry, he hasn't shown any big feat before Arasaka Tower.
@@notthedeadweight Reed still ignored dozens of cyberpsychos taken alive, gigs from all big fixers, crime scenes cleared and a few hundred gang members killed 3:25 by that one single little merc.
@@Kosogoat First off, the Psychos thing is something that only Regina and her crew should know. And second of all, Reed works for the government and the government works along with Militech, so it doesn't matter what amount of work or for who you worked, someone with the help of a big corpo and the government is more than enough.
I don't mean that they together would stand against V, but from Reed's perspective, V is no rival for such power.
@@notthedeadweight I am more than certain that a word of a merc causing "mayhem" across the city spreads fast, besides that the psycho cases are well known with barricades, witnesees and dozens of victims on scene.
I still think that V with enough motivation (Happy Vergil) coulnd't be stopped with anything short of a saturaion bombardment or an ICBM so Mayer's authority means nothing if not to authorize such a response to V and Dogtown exists...her Myersty coulnd't do sht bout it.
@@notthedeadweight I simply mean for players not to understate V's achievments before the ending.
Edit: Anglisz
When Dum Dum mentions Jackie in the Club later V threatens him
"Is that what you told Welles in Konpeki Plaza too?"
I wish you could come back to that with a list of all the big things you've done, and basically just go "If the corps can't do it, you think the NUSA can get me? Who do you think your bosses work for?" Something cool and edgy like that. Soon as Reed mentioned Jackie, I knew I was going to side with SoMi Fully. What's crazy is Reed took two revolver shots to the head on that final mission segment so who's laughing now Reed?
I like to imagine this V was thinking "Keep Jackie's name out ya' f***in' mouth!" when he tossed him.
2:51 Ahh so you have chosen *death*
when i heard this dialogue my hands gripped so tight on my controller i heard it crunching 😭. I already didn't trust the FIA but damn
Love the disrespect of his corpse yeeting him into oblivion 😂
He just yet him oh you’ll find him decked out in so much Chiron bro
3:17 😂 Skippy got no clue 🤣🤣😭
Reed singing that same manipulative song. Like he did to So Mi at 19, to Slider when he forced him to connect to the Blackwall, and to V. He blackmails so well, he even got himself to believe he’s doing it for the good of his country. Even then… I still side with Reed during Firestarter. Neither Myers nor Mr. Blue Eyes will get to keep Songbird as their Blackwall experiment project. Best way for her to be free is death… and all V can do in those few months left, learn all the dets on Project Cynosure and the secret battle against rogue AIs.
we dont even know what blue eyes wants with songbird
@@rangopistacho6928 but we can guess. Cannot be anything good.
Preach, brotha. So Mi will be looking down on us from the other side, thanking us for finally granting her the best freedom we could give her. Even if it isn’t the one she hoped for…
This was how I played the dlc.
you are not wrong but siding with so mi is better then nothing because she wont feel that she didnt got any chance for living
V: Man this Konpeki Plaza thing really messed me up
Songbird: Don't worry it's not gonna happen again :)
Reed: lmao your friend is dead
that throw was personal
My friend took that end on his playthrough, got the jackie quote. I heard him do the end he yelled down the mic "KEEP JACKIES NAME OUT YO F###IN MOUTH" it was one of the most random but also funniest things ive ever heard.
I got the Welles lines my first playthrough and although I love Reed, I can’t get over that… such a dirty thing to say.
Same lol. Shot bro in the face expeditiously and sent that bitch to the moon. I saw it as a "no hard feelings" option that felt legit and the guy gives the most dickhead response possible.
Throw Reed off the airport roof had me cracking up lol
As soon as Reed said that he sealed his fate in my eyes. Low blow dude
"Minor league merc"
Excuse me Solomon, who was it that saved the President again? Who was your entire plan built around? Who was responsible for every success you've had so far? Who was that again Solomon?
Just saw another vid where V punches Reed with the Gorilla Arms and he dramatically dies like he got shot as well. LOL
You would probably die like you got shot if somebody imploded your chest cavity with big mechanical arms too.
@@highadmiralbittenfield9689True
Skippy is wilding 😭
Threatening V has gotta be the dumbest way to try to persuade him. V doesn't negotiate to save his own skin. He negotiates to potentially avoid a slaughter. When you threaten him you give him all the justification he needs to flatline you and your entire crew. This dude knows nothing about persuasion tactics and it shows. You can't win over someone with V's personality through intimidation.
Skippy at the end, lmao.
LMAO The skippy Bum Bum Be dum was icing on the cake LOL
love how he called back just to say f you and hang up on him
Ok, that throw at the end was personal :D
The moment Reed dared mention Jackie here was the moment I decided that whatever happened he wouldn't be walking away next time he and V met.
2:50 "jackie welles" "take responsibility for you and for others"
a man like reed thought long and hard about saying that, knowing V attended Jackie's ofrenda, the remorse he shares with others on T-bug, the anxiety he had in the elevator to Hansen's party.
Out of all the people who wronged V, this no doubt was the single worst thing anyone has ever said to him and it only here during the entire convo and for almost 99% of the game where V has nothing left to say to him, sad
Shouldnt have mentioned Jackie, Reed is about to eat chrome mark my words
When he killed the Twin Netrunners when it wasn't necessary (he could have hidden them somewhere, kept them drugged, etc.), I knew right then and there that siding with Reed wasn't going to be a good idea, so I sided with Songbird.
"Is that what you told Welles at Konpeki Plaza, too?"
When I got that response, that further gave me proof that Reed is not mine or Songbird's friend.
That throw was definitely personal.
skippy at the end was hilariuos
NGL I was going back and forth during that call. When Reed said that line, he was a dead man on borrowed time.
"Keep my choom's name out your god damned mouth!"
~V
As Reed was being thrown into the void, a warrior of true strength exclaims his goodbyes "bum bum be-dum bum bum be-dum bum" the warrior said as Reeds body was thrown off the bridge
Rich of Reed to lecture V on responsibility when he's the one who left Alex in the dirt and made So Mi the FIA's plaything.
i love skippy
Low blow Reed. But Idris Elba made a awesome job voicing. You can really feel the pain coming through. He knows it's wrong but he still can't say no to NUSA. It's really a shame that the only way to send Songbird to the Moon is through him but after that train ride I just couldn't say no to So Mi.
Of course sending her to meet with another likely AI might not be the best thing for her...
My greatest regret with PL was that we didn't get a proper bossfight with Reed. Shooting him in a QTE was nowhere as satisfying.
edit: to clarify, I'm not saying I'd like to have a boss fight exactly in place of the QTE, it indeed wouldn't work in that context, I'm saying Reed could have been placed elsewhere. Maybe there could have been a bossfight instead of that segment when V and Songbird use Blackwall to defeat NUSA troops?
Completely disagreed having a boss fight would have utterly taken away from the intensity of the moment. This isn't some generic badguy boss to fight this was a guy you worked with since damn near the beginning and now you have to make the choice between him or Songbird. A bossfight would have completely ruined the highly intense emotional standoff during Killing Moon.
Imagine hating on one of the most deep moments of cyberpunk because it wasn't a boss fight 💀
@@AnEruditeWolf Agreed. The tension of that moment would have been deeply watered down by stretching it out into a boss fight.
Disagree. I think Reed was the scout, and the brains of the Operation, but Alex and Song were the ones who actually got things done.
2:49 Reed has sealed his fate when he said that. No one talks about my dead chooms like that and gets away with it.
I wish there was a way to cap Reed, Myers, and Songbird. Fuckers were all psychopaths.
You can kill Reed and Myers in the safehouse just as they are making their escape from Dogtown. So Mi would presumably either die in Hansen's tender care (I don't know if it's weird or not that of the four I kinda like Hansen the most) or from her condition and not being able to get the cure on her own.
Welcome to the world of spywork.
Remember what Jhonny said. These are career psychopaths, make a living being friends with people they plan to betray.
If you ignore the president's downed plane and never go to save Myers, you can leave her to die and Songbird angry at you. It skips most of PL's main story but it leaves Myers dead, Reed living his crappy life under cover, and Songbird still in a bind probably to die without your help.
I understood his side but that one just killed all sympathy I had for reed
"You two are enemies of the NUSA."
He should remember two things.
1) Night City won its war with the NUSA
2) V is the guy who can own Night City.
Whatever you choose, Reed was always untrustworthy asshole that tried to manipulate in every sentence. Never trusted him.
I was just gonna let the threats slide since Reed seemed to still be a chill character but when he mentioned what happened in konpeki I TOOK THAT SHIT PERSONALLY
Reed: You're an enemy of the NUSA!
V: Sorry. Fighting Scavs. Gotta call you back.
Came in expecting to love Reed cause of Idris Elba but I came out loving So Mi and Alex more.
Scene : Sad ending when you must kill a friend
Skippy : BAM-BAM-DI-BAM
Bro, the way you yeeted Reed 💀💀💀
You see Reed that was always the difference between you and me. You were only ever loyal to a flag, I was loyal to people
Skippy singing Rhianna while you yeeted Reed at the end was fucking crazy lmfao
Bro came in out of nowhere thinking we are bros hoping we i will side with him instead of helping a trapped soul find peace
V just straight up YEETs his corpse like trash!
nah, aint no way Reed is gonna slide after talking like that about the choom, Jackie.
In the Orbital Station, Here Lies Reed, A Lousy Partner and the Loyal Dog of Myers.
I feel like Jackie would’ve turned on us after the heist, because of Dexter and all that stuff, wouldn’t want to risk moms, or misty, and he was too ambitious, nothing would stand in his way to becoming a night city legend
The more times I play through the DLC, the more I am re-affirmed in my decision of siding with Song.
In my first playthrough I got the other ending and after I met the Cerberus I would shoot Reed anytime even if he was the nicest guy in NC.
Remember that time when V can absolutely scare the tar out of some scavs to help Aldecado homies? Bet they looked more pissed at that moment - I just love the headcanon that V can go from nice to threatening in a second. Homie walking around more chromed up than Smasher, on god.
Mean Reeds right song is a nuke bomb which could destroy the Blackwall
Oh my gosh skippy at the end LOLL
Ya that shit was uncalled for lol
LMFAOOOO the ending plsssssss
i reckon johnny listened to that and instantly took everything he said about reed n him being one in the same back and now wanted to instead of storming arasaka storm reed 💀
Those last few seconds were completely unexpected and extremely hilarious.
I love in the ending where you side first with him but then kill So Mi you get a call from him to meet up at the court.
V can be like "So came to finish me or what?" (Because he killed Songbird and didnt turn her in alive.)
He says pretty much "V if I wanted you dead you would be dead you aint Morgan Blackhand."
Id wish you could have responded to that "No I aint. Im better then him." They kinda nerfed V here bit probably thought "Nah we cant make Idris a wimp."
Of course, a Merc in the circuit since few month, unable to finish their first big Job (Yes the Konpeki was a failure, the objectives weren't accomplished) and having all their crew being killed is more legendary, experienced, able and credible than the best Merc ever known in existance, the one who basically became the most legendary of all during a period where being great wasn't even enough to survive as a Merc: AKA the 4th Corpo War, this exact same war where Smasher became a Legend
Bro...V is a big deal, there is no denying that. But Morgan Blackhand is literally the protagonist of the cyberpunk world. He is already very powerful and he doesn't have that much cyberware on him.
Honestly wish there was a way to help Songbird and not have to kill Reed. If it meant storming through an army of guards to kill Myers, then so be it.
i think the nearest possible outcome for that is to not go to the myers' crash site. It will end myers, save reed but angers songbird. not sure what hansen will do to her though.
Mentioning Jackie was a low blow.
Skippy saved V from making the decision, instead of V killing reed, He can can blame it on skippy as a technical malfunction.
Skippy: are you happy with the autonomous shooting function? Please jump to confirm
Love how V stopped moving after Jackie being mentioned.
got a bit surprised of Reed's low blow. lol
Felt much less bad about ending Reed after he tried to play down my capabilities and mocked the death of my best friend .
I was considering allying with Reed on my second playthrough but after hearing him Mention Jackie like that I think I might have reservations about that. Maybe this time I'll aim for the torso instead so he has a few seconds to think about how he failed before he dies.
Only thing that they should afraid of V is when V has nothing to lose.
I was foolish enough to watch this before i reached this point in the story but I know what I'm going to do
LOL the interrupted call was great.
"Minor League Merc" me with my Apogee Sandy, Chitin and Projectile System with Relic skill tree given to me by Songbird:
“You would have been wise to keep Jackie’s name out of your mouth. You just crossed a line you’re going to wish you hadn’t Reed. Run back to Rosalind before I send you back to your maker.”
I’m so invested in this game I actually felt offended by you throwing reed’s body 🤣
I didn’t even know that his body could be picked up😭
Pretty sure that only works with the gorilla arms cyberware
The moment he said that, no fucking mercy the instant I saw him after Contra La Luna.
man i love male V’s voice acting