Cinematic Excrement: Episode 114 - Star Trek V

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  • Опубликовано: 9 янв 2025
  • In which I explain why Columbus Day is bullsh!t.
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  • @VerdantRange
    @VerdantRange 4 года назад +38

    Hell, the whole transporters plothole could have been solved with one line. "The hostage takers have set-up transport inhibitors." Done.

    • @RichardWatt
      @RichardWatt 4 года назад +7

      Or: Scotty's spilt his whisky over the transporter coils.

  • @dvass7253
    @dvass7253 5 лет назад +152

    "I am never going to finish this project." Well, Sean, if it's any consolation to you, in addition to the Razzie winners of the 80s, you've already covered Battlefield Earth, Catwoman, Revenge of the Fallen, The Last Airbender, Jack and Jill, Breaking Dawn Part 2 (which for some reason is no longer available on Vimeo, you might wanna look into that), Saving Christmas, Fant4stic, Fifty Shades of Grey and Hillary's America. From where I'm standing, you're going at a pretty good pace. Also, I just realized - this year, in November, marks the 10th annivesary of Cinematic Excrement (man, how time flies). Hope you've got something special cooked up.

    • @Betta66
      @Betta66 5 лет назад +6

      I'm curious as to whether he's going to redo some of those reviews, given that some of them were made before Sean got good equipment.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 5 лет назад +3

      @@Betta66 Unlikely, considering, how, many Razzies, are, left.

    • @Betta66
      @Betta66 5 лет назад +3

      @@matthewdaley746 There's a faster way of doing this. Every time there's a tie, he could just review both movies in the same video. He did that with the mid-2000s Fantastic Four movies, after all.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 5 лет назад +1

      @@Betta66 He, "might," want to, at least, minimize the damage to his sanity.

    • @Khaledkhaled1981
      @Khaledkhaled1981 5 лет назад +1

      Vh9bhi u hhiv hv

  • @masonallen3961
    @masonallen3961 5 лет назад +74

    Shatner's original concept sounds very creative. Not the whole Satan and Hell part but the idea of parodying TV televangelism. It sounds like a good idea and would've been highly topical at the time the movie came out as that decade was seeing a rise of christian televangelism. In a better movie that line "What does god need with a starship" would've been a siring indictment of TV televangelists who rob their followers blind to enrich themselves. But a clever concept does not a good movie make. Shatner needed to give this premise to a talented screenwriter who probably could've written turned this concept into a very good story. It's sad when you realize how good this movie could've been.

    • @codeoptimizationware2803
      @codeoptimizationware2803 5 лет назад +8

      @Mason Allen
      :
      Probably true, but also probably not so easy at the time because of the big Writers' Guild Strike that was happening at the time.

    • @JeffreyPiatt
      @JeffreyPiatt Год назад

      Ironically Roddenberry had a similar idea.

  • @gardener68
    @gardener68 4 года назад +35

    To be fair, as far as the erotic dance scene goes, I met Nichelle Nichols around this time, and that girl could still GET IT!

    • @henrygvidonas9573
      @henrygvidonas9573 3 года назад +1

      Her real first name is Grace. What else needs to be said?
      Anybody who publically tells Shatner to make TV history together again and kiss her ass can do no wrong in my world.

  • @michaelstrong5383
    @michaelstrong5383 5 лет назад +95

    "What does God need with the starship?"
    If that's not one of the weirdest lines in the history of film, then I don't know what is.

    • @lastguyminn2324
      @lastguyminn2324 5 лет назад +3

      What does SCIENCE fiction need with a god?

    • @mr.w.146
      @mr.w.146 5 лет назад +2

      I always thought it was "Damned Protestants and their anal lubricants!"

    • @BioGoji-zm5ph
      @BioGoji-zm5ph 4 года назад +4

      Have you ever seen the movie Zardoz? Trust me, Star Trek V has got NOTHING on that movie in terms of weird dialogue.
      "The gun is good! The penis is evil!"

    • @johnpotts8308
      @johnpotts8308 3 года назад +3

      It is one of the more memorable lines in any of the Trek films. Most of the better lines in II and VI are from Moby Dick or Shakespeare (translated from the original Klingon, obviously!).

    • @dragonmaster613
      @dragonmaster613 3 года назад +2

      It's the best line ever!

  • @hillhouseproductions
    @hillhouseproductions 5 лет назад +156

    Let’s celebrate the movie director Chris Columbus on Columbus Day.

    • @littlebugp
      @littlebugp 5 лет назад +8

      This comment

    • @ConnorNotyerbidness
      @ConnorNotyerbidness 5 лет назад +24

      But only for his work in the 90s and early 2000s.
      We must never forget what was done to percy jackson

    • @michaelstrong5383
      @michaelstrong5383 5 лет назад +8

      @@ConnorNotyerbidness Or Pixels.

    • @1997residente
      @1997residente 5 лет назад +4

      @@ConnorNotyerbidness Don´t forget he wrote Gremlins and Goonies in the 80´s

    • @TheFLAMEXD
      @TheFLAMEXD 5 лет назад +4

      Michael Strong I think that’s more the studio than Columbus.

  • @Roserae16
    @Roserae16 4 года назад +15

    There's a long running joke/conspiracy in the Star Trek Fandom that Star Fleet only has like 3 ships operating at any given time spread across the whole dang galaxy, and that's the reason its always the Enterprise that HAS to go on a mission

  • @KingofCrusher
    @KingofCrusher 3 года назад +13

    Dude this movie is still dope if only for the ending where Kirk is like "Excuse me, what would God need with a starship?" Shit is legendary.

  • @davidteer80
    @davidteer80 5 лет назад +16

    I am not sure how the rank structure works in the Klingon empire. But I think it is safe to say an ambassador, even an out of favor ambassador is much higher than a bird of prey commander.

  • @tubian323
    @tubian323 5 лет назад +74

    🎵 Take me down to the Paradise City, where the Klingons are drunk and Romulans are pretty!🎵

    • @deandupont5503
      @deandupont5503 4 года назад +1

      Please, I beg you.
      Never do that again.

    • @JanetDax
      @JanetDax 4 года назад +4

      Paradise City: Where the klingons are drunk and Romulans Ale. Seriously, you wonder what the "ambassadors" did to get shipped to that hell hole.

    • @lanceshadow5582
      @lanceshadow5582 10 месяцев назад

      Why don't you beam me uuuuuuuuuuuuup

  • @MercenaryBlackWaterz
    @MercenaryBlackWaterz 5 лет назад +74

    Cinematic Excrement: "I'm a casual fan, not a trekkie"
    but...
    owns a Star Trek uniform.

    • @LuckyPunkProd
      @LuckyPunkProd 5 лет назад +10

      I think he means the over-obsessive trekkie.

    • @gracekim1998
      @gracekim1998 5 лет назад +12

      Awesomely Sarcastic you can still be a casual fan and cosplay

    • @Dargonhuman
      @Dargonhuman 5 лет назад +3

      I'm a casual fan of Halo but I also have a toy energy sword hanging from my bedroom wall. Replica Trek uniforms aren't expensive, especially the one he's wearing; when it first debuted online it was only about $20.

    • @Dargonhuman
      @Dargonhuman 5 лет назад

      @@matthewdaley746 What, like a fruit punch? Can I have some, I'm feeling parched...

    • @daviddrouant2852
      @daviddrouant2852 4 года назад +1

      maybe he borrowed it

  • @juhaniaho6698
    @juhaniaho6698 5 лет назад +34

    10:34-10:37 Well, according to Linkara's theory, in the Star Trek universe, Starfleet only has TWO ships on active duty at any given time, and Enterprise is always one of them.

    • @leewright1
      @leewright1 Год назад

      Nobody gives a shit about Linkara and his weird, talentless brain.

    • @JeffreyPiatt
      @JeffreyPiatt Год назад +1

      This was also post Whale probe so the Enterprise A was in spacedock. That and the excuse plot that they wanted the Enterprise crew on the mission.

    • @urgon6321
      @urgon6321 Год назад +1

      They actually say in the movie that there are other ships. In the ENTIRE QUADRANT, that is 1/4 of the Milky Way. The problem is that Kirn can't fly any other ship, but Enterprise. And stolen Klingon ship. It's a mental disorder. Of the screenwriters...
      Also, if you stand in front of a Warp core, lit a candle and say "Linkara!" three times, he will show up and nitpick you to death with pointless Star Trek details...

  • @christiegreenwood2642
    @christiegreenwood2642 Год назад +7

    I genuinely love the fact that Sybok had a cameo in Strange New Worlds.

  • @markelijio6012
    @markelijio6012 2 года назад +3

    This was Harve Bennett's final theatrical writing/producing credit for Paramount. After being dropped out of Paramount for 21 years, Harve Bennett went to Warner Bros nearby the Burbank Studios where he was part of the executive producing team in the syndicated sci fi TV series was "Time Trax." Ran from 1992 until 1995 with Dale Midkiff which became an international success and now it shown on the
    Sci Fi Channel.

    • @markelijio6012
      @markelijio6012 2 года назад +1

      It was a financial success at the box office in the 1989-1990 season, despite its negative reviews and so on.

  • @lillabetyoucan
    @lillabetyoucan 5 лет назад +52

    I've literally been watching you since Home On The Range, and honestly, am so proud of the work you are doing. You deserve so many more subscribers.

  • @brevonsflicksgames7450
    @brevonsflicksgames7450 5 лет назад +22

    Reviewing every film that won the Razzie for Worst Picture that’s true dedication and it shows that you’re a hard working person and I respect you for that

    • @christmashake8968
      @christmashake8968 5 лет назад

      I think "Ford Fairlane" is up first, though. Considering Sean's going alphabetically and all. :/

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 5 лет назад +37

    Everyone "Do you have a funny review of Star Trek V?"
    Sean: "Sorry. I just sold my last copy."

  • @jayarby8494
    @jayarby8494 5 лет назад +59

    I think it’s about time to go to bed...
    *New CE*
    Goddamnit

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 5 лет назад +78

    Beam me down to the paradise city. Where the planet is hot and the cat women are pretty. Oh won't you please beam me home.

    • @kimjensen4977
      @kimjensen4977 5 лет назад +1

      But... the beamer is broken!

    • @wstine79
      @wstine79 5 лет назад +3

      Great. Now I evaporated like the Vulcan in the Motion Picture.

    • @kimjensen4977
      @kimjensen4977 5 лет назад +1

      @@wstine79 don't worry - Captain Kirk's got this!

    • @paulheap1982
      @paulheap1982 5 лет назад +4

      'Cat women have three titties' would fit the rhythm better.

  • @starcader9997
    @starcader9997 5 лет назад +16

    Damn time zones. I’m always about to go to bed when a Cinematic Excrement Video pops up. I live on the east coast.

  • @somewittyfella5118
    @somewittyfella5118 5 лет назад +29

    I've always wondered about that mountain climbing scene and what purpose it served. My best guess is Shatner's ego climbing the mountain is racing against Tom Cruise's ego climbing the mountain in Mission Impossible II. Technically they're both Paramount.

    • @romero329
      @romero329 5 лет назад +3

      Everyone talks about Shatner's ego, but Kirk falls off the mountain and Spock has to save him, so Spock is the hero.

    • @hueowen2786
      @hueowen2786 5 лет назад +2

      The reason Kirk was climbing the mountain was explained in the scene by Kirk himself. "Because it's there".

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 5 лет назад +1

      @@hueowen2786 The Joker had a great quote regarding why jokes, are, better, left unexplained.

    • @djackson4657
      @djackson4657 5 лет назад

      This film was awful , it made no sense, no money people had to play several roles.

    • @djackson4657
      @djackson4657 5 лет назад

      Amanda did not give birth to Spock. Spock is a product of Vulcan science. Vulcans and humans are not compatible.

  • @roberttreacy8271
    @roberttreacy8271 10 месяцев назад +4

    14:18 “OMG! Do you realize what this means? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!”
    😂 That should be a reaction GIF!

  • @logruszed
    @logruszed 4 года назад +6

    Klingons do not/have not always viewed the role of diplomat as worthy of respect. Since it demands the Klingon doing the job to 1) interact with inferior species 2) not kill them or conquer them.
    Thus it is likely, or plausible, they would select a Klingon who had no honor to tarnish with such a job. And of course some Klingons are without honor, if they just innately all had natural honor then honor itself would have no real value to them.

  • @CyberKirby
    @CyberKirby 5 лет назад +24

    Star Trek V: The Quest for Peace!

  • @ernestolombardo5811
    @ernestolombardo5811 3 года назад +5

    Fortunately, the next film (The Undiscovered Country) was directed by Nicholas Meyer, a superior installment which really cleansed the palate.

  • @otaking3582
    @otaking3582 5 лет назад +13

    If my AT4W memory serves me right, the deleted scenes were included in the comic adaptation. It was a minimal improvement, but an improvement none the less.

  • @TONYGILLEY
    @TONYGILLEY Год назад +2

    As bad as this movie is, it's a guilty pleasure for me as it's a throwback to the Original Series in a way...specifically the mixed bag of season 3. I definitely agree that there is a story here that desperately needed an overhaul at the writing stage and someone willing to tell Shatner that he needs to understand the franchise outside of himself and his own character; Not just referring to Spock and McCoy potentially turning on Kirk to join with Sybok, but with the rest of the TOS crew who previously sacrificed their careers to help him save Spock.
    I've seen this theory out there that the best way to enjoy this film is that it's Kirk having a fever dream of sorts after feasting on too much Bourbon and Beans, but specifically the alcohol, as it's the only way to explain a lot of the errors in the movie.

  • @angelcastaneda529
    @angelcastaneda529 5 лет назад +30

    Insurrection is still the worst for me.
    Final Frontier at least had that campfire scene talking about mortality and anything with Shatner, Nimoy, and DeKelley is a plus.

    • @juliagoodwin3461
      @juliagoodwin3461 5 лет назад +5

      I particularly detest the obnoxiously pretentious Ba’ku, or aka “those goddamned space elves”.
      Or as another reviewer put it, “Piss off back to your tree and make me some cookies”.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 5 лет назад +2

      @@juliagoodwin3461 Yeah, they really deserved to, lose, so, of course, they didn't.

  • @secondwizardapprentice
    @secondwizardapprentice 5 лет назад +9

    Probably my favorite series on RUclips. Sean you’re hilarious dude, pls never stop

  • @brandonmclendon5368
    @brandonmclendon5368 5 лет назад +57

    Should be asleep, but a new Cinematic Excrement episode is on RUclips. So....

    • @wstine79
      @wstine79 5 лет назад

      Thankfully I work the late shift so I'm watching this on my lunch break.

    • @gracekim1998
      @gracekim1998 5 лет назад

      Brandon McLendon you guys understand the word Timezones right?

    • @brandonmclendon5368
      @brandonmclendon5368 5 лет назад

      Gracekim1 Yes, I am aware.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 5 лет назад

      @@brandonmclendon5368 I'm glad you, are.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 3 года назад

      Not, a hard decision.

  • @nokki25
    @nokki25 5 лет назад +7

    Columbus didn’t turn the natives into slaves, but into christians and subjects of the crown. The idea of importing slaves from Africa and Ireland came later and partly because the citizens of Santo Domingo (whom you called slaves) legally couldn’t be forced to work.
    Learn your history!

    • @MazTheOriginalGod
      @MazTheOriginalGod 5 лет назад

      Well, he told them to give him gold and be christian or to die. That's... not very good case anyway.

    • @Shintigercurl
      @Shintigercurl 5 лет назад +1

      @@MazTheOriginalGod and he also told them if they didn't meet their gold quotas, they would have their hands chopped off.

    • @nokki25
      @nokki25 5 лет назад +2

      This is a bunch of misinformation, to put it mildly. Other than being historically inaccurate and based on 4th party accounts (you quote copies of letters written by people 100 years after Columbus, who never even met him), these lies are very offensive to hispanic and latino people, which could prove to be highly troubling for an Irish boi in California.

    • @nokki25
      @nokki25 5 лет назад

      To clear any misconceptions I recommend watching ruclips.net/video/ZEw8c6TmzGg/видео.html
      That vid is very much in the middle

    • @nokki25
      @nokki25 5 лет назад +1

      Matthew Daley no, it is not. Your comment is akin to saying that US citizenship is just slavery by another name.

  • @lanceshadow5582
    @lanceshadow5582 2 года назад +4

    "An Incompetent, tyrannical, genocidal dickweed..." brilliant, just brilliant. Every time I rewatch this video it's so cathartic to listen to you bash columbus.

  • @dougquaid570
    @dougquaid570 5 лет назад +6

    This was a marginally better cinema experience than Superman IV , a couple of years earlier.

  • @juhaniaho6698
    @juhaniaho6698 5 лет назад +5

    Well, the first -ten- eleven Razzie Worst Picture winners have come and gone. Here’s my list of them from worst (1) to least worst(11). My opinion, you may disagree:
    1. Leonard Part 6
    2. Inchon!
    3. Bolero
    4. Under The Cherry Moon
    5. Can’t Stop The Music
    6. The Lonely Lady
    7. Howard The Duck
    8. Mommie Dearest
    9. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
    10. Cocktail
    11. Rambo: First Blood Part 2

  • @krdragon6950
    @krdragon6950 5 лет назад +7

    5:45 This sounds like the beginning of a joke a Klingon, a Romulan and a human walk into bar.

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot 5 лет назад +7

    Yes this Star Trek movie was so horrible I can't remember having that much fun and still being conscious.

  • @chasehedges6775
    @chasehedges6775 5 лет назад +20

    If people hate Star Trek: Into Darkness, I point to this as the worst. How can that film be any worse than this one?

    • @MrChaotic4
      @MrChaotic4 5 лет назад +2

      If you look at Into Darkness solely as a film, then this, The Motion Picture, Generations and Insurrection are definitely worse. You might even be able to argue that The Search for Spock is worse. But as a Star Trek film, Into Darkness is the worst because it's the only one that doesn't offer any interesting ideas, and it's just a mindless action film.

    • @TheWesLesley
      @TheWesLesley 5 лет назад +1

      the new star treks were awful. this one is pretty okay. ... why would god need a space ship gets me every time. as does 'go to sleep, spock'

    • @Yougotsblounchsked
      @Yougotsblounchsked 5 лет назад

      I think Into Darkness was just forgettable above all else. I didn’t even see the third one.

    • @tristanhartup4936
      @tristanhartup4936 5 лет назад +1

      I like Into Darkness

    • @Dargonhuman
      @Dargonhuman 5 лет назад +1

      Because this one tried to do something new and different, it just failed in every way imaginable, and like Sean said, some parts of it were pretty decent, but at least it tried.
      Into Darkness didn't even try. It was a lazy, nearly identical copy of Wrath of Khan, and the parts that were changed didn't make any sense. Hell, even the parts that were the same didn't make any sense - the reason Wrath of Khan was such a great, powerful and emotionally charged movie was because of Kirk and Khan's history with each other from the TOS episode Space Seed. Since it was Kirk who put Khan's Kooky Khlan on that planet, Khan blames Kirk for everything that happened to them since then, which makes the ensuing conflict far more personal and raises the emotional stakes as well as the political stakes. Adding in Kirk's ex and son turned that up to 11.
      Khan's appearance in Into Darkness lacked all of that emotional tension, so he was relegated to simply Villain of the Week. Carol was there but she and Kirk were far too young to have a grown child together, so that emotional tension was gone, and at that point, they weren't even together long enough to have the same emotional connection that the OG Kirk and Marcus had in Wrath of Khan. Basically, everything that made Wrath of Khan great was gone in Into Darkness, and they made up for it with some really nonsensical action pieces and more "Pewpew 'splosions".
      They're both terrible, no doubt, but this one was at least ambitiously terrible where the other was lazy and terrible, which is worse.

  • @Horrormaster13
    @Horrormaster13 5 лет назад +25

    For me the worst Star Trek Film is always going to be Star Trek IX: Insurrection.
    Star Trek V is bad but at least it is so bad that it's hilarious and entertaining to watch.
    Star Trek IX: Insurrection is just dull, boring and not entertaining at all!

    • @Andrew.quigley
      @Andrew.quigley 3 года назад +4

      There's only one decent Next Generation film and that's First Contact.
      The rest are zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz snore material.

    • @richardenglish2195
      @richardenglish2195 3 года назад +3

      And at least V's 'search for God' concept has some imagination to it, even if the execution is cack-handed. Insurrection's just a joyless, utterly pedestrian journey through a plot that was already old-hat back in the days of pulp sci-fi magazines.

    • @dragonmaster613
      @dragonmaster613 3 года назад

      So Star Trek: Insurrection is the TNG version of Star Trek: The motion picture?

    • @eddieolshefski6467
      @eddieolshefski6467 3 года назад +1

      Also Insurrection pretty much destroys (or tried to) everything the Federation stood for.

  • @visionaryventures12
    @visionaryventures12 5 лет назад +10

    Star Trek’s official Encyclopedia (I believe) reported that Sybok was conceived to be played by Sean Connery, thus the inside joke of the planet being called Sha Ka Ree.

  • @POLE7645
    @POLE7645 5 лет назад +5

    So, let's see what we got for next months:
    - An Andrew Dice Clay vehicle that also was the reason why his career was so short
    - A John Derek movie with a tiny budget and a cameo from Donald Trump
    No wonder it was a tie. I'm honestly not sure which one is worse (though Ghosts Can't Do It has an edge).

    • @POLE7645
      @POLE7645 5 лет назад +2

      @Oriental Studios Well, there's Box Office Mojo.

  • @frankm.2850
    @frankm.2850 Год назад +1

    And now we know that Spock had TWO siblings, neither of which we heard about until the characters were dreamed up unnecessarily. Wonderful!

  • @MedicineMundy
    @MedicineMundy 5 лет назад +36

    He's Done it Again! Good work My Boi! :)

  • @sharnilee6683
    @sharnilee6683 9 месяцев назад +2

    You think this was the lowest point in William Shatner's career? Try American Psycho 2!

  • @cheshirekat3050
    @cheshirekat3050 5 лет назад +4

    I remember reading in one of the ST novels that it was revealed that the entity who was trapped on the planet, was actually imprisoned there by the Q, billions of years prior (hence, the reason for the barrier).

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 5 лет назад +4

    2:00, Star Trek 5 bombed at the box office because it was beat out by Lethal weapon 2, Batman, and Indiana Jones 3.

  • @chaosryans
    @chaosryans 4 года назад +7

    Just to say something fun, columbus actually went not to find a route but actually was following the route that was mapped by the compulsive liar known as marco polo who said there were roads paved in gold and so on. 🤣

  • @jerraldwest2935
    @jerraldwest2935 4 года назад +3

    So Shatner wanted the biblical hell and Satan to be canon in the Star Trek universe? He chose to try and make one of the most scientifically inaccurate religious belief systems there is, canon in the Star trek universe? Wow. I'm actually with the producers on that one. Lol

  • @renegadedjinn5325
    @renegadedjinn5325 5 лет назад +9

    I come online to ask "DO YOU HAVE STAR TREK V?" and to my excitement, Sean delivered.

    • @wstine79
      @wstine79 5 лет назад

      Luckily he sold us his last copy.

  • @reviewman
    @reviewman 5 лет назад +7

    16:49 actually, super easy! Barely an inconvenience! Yeah i like screen rants pitch meetings. But it was fitting for this movie. 🎥

  • @akildukes7499
    @akildukes7499 5 лет назад +4

    General Kord outranks Klaa. The military still has protocol and Klaa might only be a Lieutenant or something way beneath a General. Captain is a rank as well as a title. Kord may show him respect by not assuming command, but Klaa still has to follow his orders.

  • @MisterTutor2010
    @MisterTutor2010 5 лет назад +16

    Mulder and Scully called each other by their last names even after the got into a relationship.

    • @MichaelAarons1701
      @MichaelAarons1701 5 лет назад +3

      Not only that, Uhura having the name Nyota was never canon until Trek 11 decided to use it. So in 1989, nobody knew anything else to call her.

    • @hseile7314
      @hseile7314 5 лет назад +3

      Also in Bones, Dr. Temprence Brennan called Booth, Booth instead of his first name Seeley.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 5 лет назад +2

      @@hseile7314 That's, because, Seeley is, oh, what's the word, stupid?

    • @davincent98
      @davincent98 5 лет назад +1

      Castle and Beckett

    • @Dargonhuman
      @Dargonhuman 5 лет назад

      @@MichaelAarons1701 Star Trek 11? There's not a Star Trek 11. Oh, you mean the 2009 reboot. Yea, still not 11, since it wasn't a continuation from 10; when they rebooted the movie franchise, it reset the counter. That confused me for a bit.

  • @maeghtmaxime
    @maeghtmaxime 5 лет назад +9

    If you hate colombus day i suggest for you to see 1492 conquest of paradise by Ridley scott believe me is horrible.

  • @Margie75
    @Margie75 2 года назад +1

    This film nearly destroyed the Star Trek franchise and it was a vanity project for Bill Shatner.

  • @JenMistress
    @JenMistress 5 лет назад +12

    Well, your joke reminded me of when William Shatner tried to sell women's underwear, but Shatner Panties just wouldn't sell. 😉😂 OK, I'll stop too. And looked up the next year's winner, another tie, and another appearance by Bo I see.

  • @antibishonen
    @antibishonen Год назад +1

    26:30
    Hmmm....two movies to review next time. There's the Diceman trying to transition from Standup to The Big Screen with little success.
    The other.....
    Bo Derek, again?!
    I think I know which one you'll pick first.

  • @antibishonen
    @antibishonen 11 месяцев назад +2

    25:10 Hey Sean, there's one particular stupid comedy movie that was snubbed completely and there are memes around this premise.
    Sadly, I'm that kind of guy who gave this movie a pass.
    Weekend at Bernie's

  • @gametheorymedia
    @gametheorymedia Год назад +2

    I enjoy your reviews, love (early, real) Star Trek in general, and LOATHE this Shat-tastic cinematic misfire in particular--but mostly, I can't take my eyes off what has the be THEE most ill-fitting Starfleet uniform I have ever laid eyes on o_0

  • @trmblingblustar
    @trmblingblustar 4 года назад +2

    This movie, IMO, suffered for several reasons you covered, such as a first-time director, low budget, writer's strike, and poor effects. It also suffered from telling a solo story following three films that were connected in a semi-arc. They tried to continue with Kirk's hatred of Klingons, and ended with "peace" between the Federation and Klingons with the crew drinking with Klingons, but even that was crushed by the next film.

  • @luisperes1894
    @luisperes1894 5 лет назад +5

    I also think shatner directing style is the best of all trek movies. This feels like a cinema movie, it has personality, great interaction between chsracters, the bridge set is awsome and its the only trek with the original series bridge noises. Its by far my favorite trek along with 1.

    • @markelijio6012
      @markelijio6012 Год назад

      That's the only feature which Emmy winning legend William Shatner ever directed for Paramount.

  • @AndrewMiller-yo7bd
    @AndrewMiller-yo7bd 11 месяцев назад +1

    Anybody can captain a Klingon ship. All you have to do is knock the captain out of his chair and take it. Riker even did it once.

  • @IvanovIvanAKrutoi
    @IvanovIvanAKrutoi 2 года назад +2

    Honestly, I think that, out of all the bad movies that were released in 1989, I'm surprised that you didn't mention Wired, a biopic based on John Belushi. In my opinion, that movie makes Star Trek V look like Star Trek II by comparison, and is the worst movie of 1989 for me. If you never heard of Wired, I don't blame you. It's a very, VERY mean-spirited biopic that focuses almost exclusively on John Belushi's drug addiction and makes him out as a stereotypical drug addict, and it was never released on DVD or Blu-ray, only having a brief life on VHS, kinda like Inchon, another movie that you reviewed, except Inchon didn't receive any sort of home video release. It was also notable for being the film debut of Michael Chiklis, who played John Belushi in the film.
    It's incredibly baffling how Wired was completely overlooked by the Razzies, when it should've had at least one nomination. Had Wired been recognized by the Razzies, it probably would've won a few awards, such as Worst Screenplay (Earl Mac Rauch), Worst Director (Larry Peerce), Worst Supporting Actor (Ray Sharkey as "Angel" Velasquez), and a nomination for Worst Picture. It's kinda lucky how there was no Worst New Star award for 1989 movies, because they probably would've given that award to Michael Chiklis, which would've been a bit mean towards him, as Chiklis arguably has the best performance in the film.

  • @ashasaur
    @ashasaur 5 лет назад +3

    CE is legit one of the most undersubbed channels in existence. Been watching for years and always get excited when I see that new upload!

  • @data007studios2
    @data007studios2 2 года назад +2

    Columbus proved it was round.
    WRONG!!!
    I couldn’t stop laughing😂

  • @shmee123ful
    @shmee123ful 5 лет назад +6

    The smeg head in a star fleet uniform. My life is complete

  • @sirtalkalotdoolittle
    @sirtalkalotdoolittle 5 лет назад +3

    I couldn't take all of your shots at something I love. I'll be back for the next one, though.

  • @gageperuti5519
    @gageperuti5519 5 лет назад +2

    20:32 Why do I get the feeling Paul W. S. Anderson was inspired by this when he made Event Horizon?

    • @christmashake8968
      @christmashake8968 5 лет назад

      You know, now that you mention it...that’s a FAR better version of this movie’s script, flawed and somewhat dated though it may be.

    • @christmashake8968
      @christmashake8968 4 года назад

      Look, I’m not defending the Resident Evil movies as ANY kind of art or entertainment (except-debatably-the first installment), and Anderson is quite flawed as a director, but he’s NOT, nor ever WILL be, as bad or cynical a director as Bay is. “Event Horizon,” for all its flaws, still shows off a talent and creative mindset that would have had a lot of potential if he hadn’t gotten bogged down in a dumb franchise at a major studio’s behest. Same with Jovovich-she isn’t the best actress in the world, but she’s shown flashes of talent and brilliance in efforts like “Dazed And Confused” and “The Fifth Element,” and you CAN’T tell me she’s more talentless than Kate Beckinsale or Megan Fox.

  • @alexbogatiryov
    @alexbogatiryov 5 лет назад +3

    A General will always have authority over a captain - even if he has been exiled and put in an Ambassador role

  • @seanmcclure
    @seanmcclure 4 года назад +3

    I don’t care what anybody says this is one of my favorite Star Trek movies.

  • @TommyDeonauthsArchives
    @TommyDeonauthsArchives 5 лет назад +1

    Is there any more sweeter than waking up to a Cinematic Excrement episode in the morning?

  • @BronyDanProductions
    @BronyDanProductions 5 лет назад +2

    Nimoy: When I directed 'Star Trek IV', I got a magnificent performance out of Bill, because I respected him so much'.
    Shatner: And when I directed 'Star Trek V', I got a magnificent performance out of me, because I respected me so much'.

  • @Dargonhuman
    @Dargonhuman 5 лет назад

    One popular theory for how Spock "remembers" his own birth is he and his father shared a mind-meld for some reason (the most likely being part of Spock's re-education and rehabilitation after being resurrected on the Genesis planet) which is why that particular flashback seems to be more from Sarek's perspective than Spock's. That would also explain why Spock never mentioned having a half brother before - he never knew about Sybok or how Sarek banished him until the same moment he learned about his own birth.
    None of which matters, as Roddenberry himself was so disappointed with Star Trek V that he excised it from official canon, the same as The Animated Series.
    EDIT: 19:28, you could even say it was "super easy, barely an inconvenience".

  • @gageperuti5519
    @gageperuti5519 2 года назад +2

    If there's one sequel released that year that probably deserved Worst Picture, but wasn't nominated, it was Friday the 13th Part 8: Jason Takes Manhattan. I re-watched it recently and it's PRETTY bad, though often hilariously so. Personally, I think it's worse than this film. At least this film actually has a story, character development, a director who has SOME idea of basic continuity, a villain that doesn't friggin teleport, and actors who can act.

  • @OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout
    @OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout 4 года назад +1

    Shatner was actually a decent director. George Takei said he did a pretty good job directing this movie given the pressure he was under. And Takei HATES him.

  • @Izhrantih
    @Izhrantih 5 лет назад +5

    That Columbus rant is honestly one of my favorite things to ever appear on this channel, and the reason I will never stop watching it until either I or it die! You, sir, are not only hilarious, but also admirably smart and well imformed - kudos and all the very best from Switzerland!

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 5 лет назад

      @Captain Brandon Horror Film Lover Columbus may have ushered in a, Reign of Terror, but, Cortes, and, Pizarro, REALLY, ratcheted it up to eleven.

    • @charlesvan13
      @charlesvan13 4 года назад

      @@matthewdaley746
      There was already terror in the New World. The Aztecs murdered thousands in what is today Mexico City in human sacrifices in a single month.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 4 года назад

      @@charlesvan13 Yeah, but, apparently, massacres in the name of religion, are, somehow, not, as bad as massacres in pursuit of wealth.

    • @charlesvan13
      @charlesvan13 4 года назад

      @@matthewdaley746
      The Western hemisphere natives weren't killed by a "reign of terror". They died because they had no resistance to diseases brought from the Eastern hemisphere.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 4 года назад

      @@charlesvan13 They died of a lot a things, incurable diseases just happened to be the largest killer out of very many.

  • @JoaoFonseca100
    @JoaoFonseca100 4 года назад +2

    I love the Iron Maiden’s somewhere back in time poster. My favorite album!

  • @BiffGreggle
    @BiffGreggle 3 года назад +1

    The best thing to come out of this movie is that the proposed rock monster fight was eventually used a decade later in Galaxy Quest.

  • @keiththorpe9571
    @keiththorpe9571 3 года назад +1

    Another aspect of the 'Sarek having another son with a Vulcan Princess' that irritated both Roddenberry and fans was the whole Vulcan Princess bit. Vulcan had not had any form of hereditary monarchical government since before the time of the philosopher Surak, the establishment of C'thia (the governing ethic of logic) more than two millennia before.

  • @frankm.2850
    @frankm.2850 Год назад +1

    Yeah, because Kaitlin is DEFINITELY a Romulan name!

  • @otaking3582
    @otaking3582 5 лет назад +5

    In response to Spock remembering his own birth, I'd say that either Vulcans have better memories than humans, or use this exchange from Silent Night Deadly Night Part 2:
    "How could you have possibly remembered that, you were just a baby?"
    "Because...I was there."

    • @oaktree2406
      @oaktree2406 5 лет назад

      Spock is a Vulcan not a Klingon!

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 5 лет назад

      @@oaktree2406 He's actually a half-Vulcan, his mother, was, human, thus, his occasional logical lapses.

    • @oaktree2406
      @oaktree2406 5 лет назад

      @@matthewdaley746 oh yea sure i know, thanks!

    • @oaktree2406
      @oaktree2406 5 лет назад

      The original comment at first said Klingon

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 4 года назад

      @@oaktree2406 So, many alien races.

  • @SlyDante
    @SlyDante 5 лет назад +7

    Ah, another terrific video, Sean! And by god, do the budget and script issues show. This...should not have been,
    Now let's see what you have next time...The Adventures of Ford Fairlane starring Andrew Dice Clay in a starring vehicle, which I have sadly seen & can say is more than deserving of the Golden Raspberry for being a massive, unfunny, poorly-written, tonally confused genre comedy (there were apparently a lot of these at the time, given 1991's winner & another nominee then as well), &...
    ...Ghosts Can't Do It.
    ...The elephant will be firmly in the room. We knew it was coming, but we must question if we are truly prepared. I shall pray for you.

  • @RawbeardX
    @RawbeardX 5 лет назад +5

    you should watch Knowing Better's video on Columbus, the put a retraction in this video

  • @cheshirekat3050
    @cheshirekat3050 5 лет назад

    3:04-3:12
    I've read on Wikipedia that the core of the plot actually was originally Gene's idea; and that "God" was supposed to be the real God; and that he was indeed supposed to be the villain; but that the studio refused such a controversial plot; and decided to give the reins over to Shatner instead.
    Which is why it wound up basically being a love story from Shatner, to himself.
    Like when Kevin Sorbo got the reins to Andromeda, after the death of Majel Roddenberry.
    Except with a three-breasted cat-woman (yes, that part was really Shatner's idea).

  • @louisduarte8763
    @louisduarte8763 4 года назад

    12:46 Well, now I know where that fan dance from the Futurama crossover episode came from.
    20:51 Captain Kirk didn't get to fight The Devil, but The Tenth Doctor on Doctor Who did. And it was awesome.

  • @gdwnet
    @gdwnet 3 года назад +1

    This movie has two good things - the bond between Kirk, Spock and McCoy and the Klingons chasing down the Enterprise.

  • @juhaniaho6698
    @juhaniaho6698 5 лет назад +2

    Next month, we will figure out what ghosts can do...and can't do. That or adventures of a man, who shares his name with his car.

    • @wstine79
      @wstine79 5 лет назад

      Bo Derek and Andrew Dice Clay? Oh boy.

    • @juhaniaho6698
      @juhaniaho6698 5 лет назад

      @@wstine79 Also, the President of the United States.

  • @MaggieOffutt
    @MaggieOffutt 5 лет назад +2

    Excellent work as always Semghead! My question for you is this. Out of the 5 movies that were nominated for worst picture of the decade
    •Mommie Dearest (winner)
    •The Lonely Lady
    •Bolero
    •Howard the Duck
    •Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
    Do you think the Razzie made the right call or not?

    • @1997residente
      @1997residente 5 лет назад

      Mommy is not as bad as Bolero,Lonely and Howard. Leonard and Inchon...ugh. They are "Manos" kind of bad.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 5 лет назад

      Leonard Part 6, also, has gathered a META creepiness.

  • @CableB_
    @CableB_ 5 лет назад +6

    The one thing I want the Razzies to bring back is worst original song

  • @sebastianemond5313
    @sebastianemond5313 5 лет назад +1

    20:07 - 20:40 Oh hey, that's where Doctor Who got the premise for Impossible Planet/Satan Pit!

  • @p.z.arnott2329
    @p.z.arnott2329 4 года назад

    Now realizing so much was cut, I'm wondering what are the deleted scenes look like. Sybok did know about the transporter beams, yet Star Fleet never thought of using them. So it is possible one of the scenes that were cut probably explained it a lot more.

  • @wanderinghistorian
    @wanderinghistorian 5 лет назад +1

    It's worth noting that the events of V are never mentioned in any of the following films or TV series. It may be canon, but it's totally forgotten within the canon.
    Lt. Dax: "Remember that time Kirk fought god?"
    Sisko: "Do with the what now?"

  • @michaelproctor8100
    @michaelproctor8100 5 лет назад +1

    Was "The Great Barrier" in this movie supposed to be the same barrier that was established in the Where No Man Has Gone Before pilot?

  • @Concreteowl
    @Concreteowl 5 лет назад +5

    Star Trek V is okay. It ran out of money. Into Darkness is much much worse.

  • @AmishParadise27
    @AmishParadise27 5 лет назад +5

    "I'm never gonna finish this godforsaken project"
    Good. :)

    • @Dargonhuman
      @Dargonhuman 5 лет назад

      Good, good! Let the hate flow through you!
      (psst, wrong franchise...)
      Oh! Uhh... Resistance is futile?

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 5 лет назад

      @@Dargonhuman Complaining about Picard is futile, it, was, just renewed.

  • @Graytail
    @Graytail 5 лет назад +1

    Another thing about going to the centre of the galaxy - if it would take Voyager 35 years to get there, it'd take a hell of a lot longer for the Connie Enterprise.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 5 лет назад

      They, were, hoping we wouldn't notice.

    • @thomasn3882
      @thomasn3882 5 лет назад

      Exactly. Using the plot hole created by this movie, Starfleet could have rescued Voyager from the Delta Quadrant in mere days or weeks by using the Enterprise route to get to the center of the galaxy, where they could have asked the Cytherians (from TNG) to use their technology to bring Voyager home.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 5 лет назад

      @@thomasn3882 Blame the WGA, for, that one.

  • @tvproductionsltd
    @tvproductionsltd 2 года назад

    When it comes to the Klingon general, while he may have fallen out of favor with the High Command, it doesn't change the fact that he is still a General of the Klingon military, he massively outranks the Captain. So him taking over command of the Bird of Prey, still makes a decent amount of sense.

  • @markshulusky6680
    @markshulusky6680 3 года назад +1

    You've got to admit the lead actors never lost their chemistry, or their ability to get into character convincingly.

  • @kennyfordham6208
    @kennyfordham6208 5 лет назад +5

    I believe that David Warner's character, St. John, is pronounced 'sin-gin'.

  • @akildukes7499
    @akildukes7499 5 лет назад +5

    Dammit! Sleep or Sean? Wait your turn, sleep.

    • @wstine79
      @wstine79 5 лет назад

      You don't need that half hour of sleep.

  • @spiderlime
    @spiderlime 5 лет назад +1

    how exactly did picard get there? that was such a confusing movie.

  • @codeoptimizationware2803
    @codeoptimizationware2803 5 лет назад +1

    Which is worse?
    A) _Star Trek V: The Final Frontier_ ?
    OR
    B) the original series episode "Spock's Brain" (S3E1)?
    Discuss!

    • @mattirealm
      @mattirealm 5 лет назад +1

      Okay I'll bite. I actually find Spock''s Brain to be a lot more unintentionally humorous. While STV was meant to be funny, but didn't come off as funny at all. Shatner and Kelley ham it up so hard in Spock's Brain; I mean, nobody seemed to be trying that hard, and this was the season 3 debut. Seriously, Kelley saying this line so dryly and seriously is hilarious "His brain is gone!" Too bad they didn't use the much better quality The Enterprise Incident for the first episode (it came the next week after this).