The SAD truth about alcohol markers (that no one talks about)

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  • Alcohol markers are really fun to make art with, until you realize there’s a HUGE downside… 😳
    But don’t despair! Find out how to overcome the biggest issue with using alcohol markers, so that you can enjoy them to the fullest. 💖
    NOTE: The swatches shown at 00:42 are the most extreme examples of how much colors can fade or shift. Don't worry, most colors won't change this much over 2.5 years! The swatches were never kept in direct sunlight; they were only exposed to a moderate amount of ambient indoor lighting as I periodically used the color chart in my art room. 😊
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    01:35 Why alcohol markers fade
    03:44 Does it even matter?
    05:43 How to make alcohol marker art last longer
    08:34 How to make alcohol marker art last FOREVER
    10:09 Selling your alcohol marker art
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  • @thaneeya
    @thaneeya  Месяц назад +69

    Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts about this! 💖 It's certainly producing a lively discussion with various viewpoints - great food for thought for anyone who's still unsure of how they feel about it.
    I'm still an avid alcohol marker fan and won't stop using them anytime soon. 😊
    p.s. If you want to learn all my favorite alcohol marker techniques, check out my Ultimate Guide to Using Alcohol Markers: www.art-is-fun.com/ultimate-guide-to-using-alcohol-markers 😃

    • @forkshifter
      @forkshifter 27 дней назад +3

      Does laminating help any tho?

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  25 дней назад +4

      My understanding is that using a laminate that is UV-resistant may help the artwork last longer when exposed to UV light (and may protect the artwork from water damage), but the alcohol marker dye will still fade over time, due to the innate chemical properties of the dye itself. Lamination isn't considered an archival preservation technique. I'd say it's up to you, if it's something you want to experiment with. 😊

    • @Quickbite2
      @Quickbite2 24 дня назад +3

      😂😂😂 was thinking I didn't ever have that problem then realized I always keep my artwork in sketchbooks portfolios and drawers so I might if I actually had it out

    • @XUtionerx
      @XUtionerx 21 день назад

      put it on a scanner upside down turn it into a jpeg and crop it

    • @anitacrumbly
      @anitacrumbly 19 дней назад +1

      It's sad to see that so many people are discouraged by this news but there is no need. the way I view art is it's alive once it's completed by the artist during the lifetime of the piece it will go through different life stages that's one reason why art restoration is a job. So the fact that these markers aren't permanent and will fade is just part of the medium's personality and something you and should someone want to buy your piece need to know but it's not the end of world it's just a part of the medium. Bonus for being lucky to live 25 years post the invention of a scanner and being able to scan your artwork with your phones if need be that the world will always know what the original colors were supposed to look like.

  • @teentitansrock88
    @teentitansrock88 Месяц назад +506

    Art historians are going to LOVE YOU and this video someday for digitizing the comparison of the markers changes over time. Using it to try and estimate what existing pieces would have looked like originally.

    • @AlexaSmith
      @AlexaSmith 29 дней назад +30

      Assuming those art historians will be able to find this video and play it and understand it 😂

    • @TrashyWaffle
      @TrashyWaffle 27 дней назад +31

      Thats assuming anything digital will survive that long…

    • @reaverkai
      @reaverkai 20 дней назад +8

      Sarah Burns Studio does this kinds of test studies a lot with different brands of gouache (and watercolors maybe too?), she tests lightfastness among many other things, paper tests too. Its greatly informative

    • @aquaintsound
      @aquaintsound 16 дней назад +5

      I'm a library scientist and I'm literally gonna share this video with other librarians including archivists

    • @corriemcginnis4400
      @corriemcginnis4400 15 дней назад +2

      🤦‍♀️

  • @SquirtleHK
    @SquirtleHK 21 день назад +80

    Oh! When storing alcohol marker art, make sure you have a blank paper between each artwork!! My red and brown Shuttle Art alcohol markers bleed yellow onto the paper above and below them in storage!!

    • @user-mv5iv1re2b
      @user-mv5iv1re2b 10 дней назад +3

      That has also happened to me and I was so upset about it. Now I take photos of my art.

    • @danielle-bi3tk
      @danielle-bi3tk 3 дня назад

      i thought i was the only one experiencing this

  • @yuna6705
    @yuna6705 27 дней назад +217

    This is why I usually keep my alcohol marker drawings in my sketchbook, instead of hanging them up, since they won't fade as fast like that

    • @Superdudehatesmilk
      @Superdudehatesmilk 7 дней назад

      I've been doing this as well, but I had no idea they'd fade otherwise. 😂

    • @danielle-bi3tk
      @danielle-bi3tk 3 дня назад

      i do that too but my artwork yellows after a few weeks

  • @Heather2D
    @Heather2D Месяц назад +333

    I don’t care that they fade because I love the process of coloring with them.

    • @saix_unicorn
      @saix_unicorn 28 дней назад +36

      it's more a problem that commissionners will face

    • @botarakutabi1199
      @botarakutabi1199 18 дней назад +20

      Yeah, you shouldn't really care unless you want to sell your pieces. I would still scan your art if you can though, so you at least are able to view the piece with its intended colors.

  • @SquirtleHK
    @SquirtleHK 21 день назад +75

    Yup! I knew before getting alcohol markers that they fade, so I'm diligent to scan scan scan right when I finish the art! I recommend displaying a print of the scan! Try to consider the scan as precious of a version of the artwork as the original is☺

    • @T-Minus10s
      @T-Minus10s 10 дней назад +2

      What is a good scanner that i should get? I’m new to the scanning artwork process and have no idea which one to get lol.

  • @thinkerdreamersketcherspy
    @thinkerdreamersketcherspy Месяц назад +106

    To those who are sad about their art not lasting: please do your own lightfast testing! It's very easy and you get a clear idea which of your colours are the most problematic.
    For example, if you take the advice of using coloured pencils with solvents or watersoluble pencils, you need to figure out how much you can dilute the colours. Watersoluble pencils especially are notoriously prone to fading when used in washes!

    • @nobody-nk8pd
      @nobody-nk8pd Месяц назад +2

      Thanks for this info! Like, I know markers are prone to fading, to the point that lightfast-testing them is pretty pointless, but I never suspected watercolour pencils of doing that.

    • @jwrightgardening
      @jwrightgardening 17 дней назад

      Thanks! I did not know this about watercolor pencils.

  • @lostinwonderart
    @lostinwonderart Месяц назад +820

    Alcohol markers are an illustration medium. They aren’t meant for finished artwork. They’re meant for work that is created for a specific purpose to be reproduced. Such as for book illustrations, prints/posters, advertising, etc…. They should not use markers for finished pieces to sell.

    • @Waspinmymind
      @Waspinmymind Месяц назад +29

      That? Doesn’t? Like don’t the people who buy them as prints want the prints also to last forever?

    • @charou_studio
      @charou_studio Месяц назад +146

      ​@@Waspinmymind Well, it doesn’t matter if the original piece of a print is made with oil paints or alcohol markers since it’s only a reproduction, the lightfastness will depend on the ink use for printing.

    • @supme7558
      @supme7558 29 дней назад +5

      So pointless

    • @Whimsy.viviana
      @Whimsy.viviana 28 дней назад

      Its not pointless, and you can sell it, just give direct instructions on how to store the art piece. Art is fun and its more fun to experience with every meduim. Alcholo marker one of the best and fastest drawing tools. Give it a try 🩷​@supme7558

    • @Fruitflyinurcloset
      @Fruitflyinurcloset 24 дня назад +10

      Idc I will still use😨🤠🤓

  • @SorcierLunaire
    @SorcierLunaire Месяц назад +47

    Weirdly, I have a swatch book that has barely faded, and I filled it well over five years ago. It could be the paper quality or chemical composition, or perhaps it’s the fact that I kepe them completely out of light.

    • @pinkcloud3126
      @pinkcloud3126 18 дней назад +31

      It's because you kept them in the dark

    • @Stroggoii
      @Stroggoii 14 дней назад +4

      Yeah if you just keep your alcohol marker art in archival sleeves on a binder, you could browse through it every day and still the deterioration will slow down over 90%.

  • @wintersprite
    @wintersprite Месяц назад +101

    I learned from a couple of other art RUclipsrs when I found out about alcohol markers that they aren’t lightfast (it might have been from a brand comparison video). They’re mainly used for illustrations that will be reproduced (so could be useful for something you want to sell on Redbubble or a similar site, or an drawing you want to sell prints of but not the original. From what I’ve heard, they’re popular with manga illustrations.
    I also like just playing around with them in my sketchbooks or coloring in a coloring book.
    Many mediums have varying lightfastness, depending on brand, colors/color groups, etc.

    • @magical571
      @magical571 17 дней назад +1

      yes, but non as bad as alcohol markers, by far. the only thing coming close would be, in general, "highlighter" colors in any medium (fluorescent pigments begin fading inmediately)

  • @SunnyCress
    @SunnyCress 23 дня назад +33

    personally i don’t really mind, life is fleeting and i’ll enjoy my art on the wall in a frame for as long as i want, then replace it if it starts looking bad

    • @JJ-el6qx
      @JJ-el6qx 18 дней назад +1

      Make a print of it maybe!

    • @magical571
      @magical571 17 дней назад

      it only matters if you are a proffessional artist, to be fair.

    • @SunnyCress
      @SunnyCress 16 дней назад

      @@magical571 yeah exactly, i personally don’t care about my own art for personal use failing

    • @Knight0fbl00d
      @Knight0fbl00d 12 дней назад

      👏 👏 👏

  • @BabyShenanigans
    @BabyShenanigans Месяц назад +114

    First time viewer here. How do you only have 5200 subs?? The production value of your videos is so high! Very educational too. Last year I painted a stone with sunflowers for my garden using acrylic paints. I used green, yellow, orange, and black. When I was done, I sealed it with a spray-on varnish. So far all the colors look amazing still, except for the orange, which completely disappeared within a couple of months!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад +21

      Thanks so much for your positive feedback on my videos! Glad you found it useful. 😃 Sorry to hear your orange color disappeared from your stone painting. It's a good reminder that acrylics fade at different rates too! I love fluorescent acrylics, but they are definitely not lightfast! 😁

    • @charlottesmom
      @charlottesmom Месяц назад +9

      so agree, she deserves many more subs, I subbed within 5 minutes of watching her first video because it was just that good! 👍🏻

    • @lostinwonderart
      @lostinwonderart Месяц назад +2

      If your rocks are outside, you should use a UV varnish.

    • @BabyShenanigans
      @BabyShenanigans Месяц назад +3

      @@lostinwonderart I used a spray-on varnish that was rated for outside use, so I assumed it would protect from UV.

    • @zaraheart
      @zaraheart 22 дня назад

      Looks like they have only been posting for about a year and they don’t have a lot of videos for that time too

  • @thinkerdreamersketcherspy
    @thinkerdreamersketcherspy Месяц назад +44

    I am mainly a coloured pencil artist but when I use markers I don't care the artwork will fade. Markers are fairly new to my work and I went in with the knowledge they can fade in days. I've been selling my art for nearly 30 years and I choose lightfast materials where possible. When I get new supplies I will immediately separate the non-lightfast colours. That way I can make informed choices and it's easier to inform a buyer about the colours used.

  • @PatriciaPageMosaicArtsCrafts
    @PatriciaPageMosaicArtsCrafts Месяц назад +38

    I dont like alcohol , i cant stand the smell, but i subscribed whithin 30 seconds of your introduction, what a lovely personality. Your art is amazing.

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад +7

      Aww thank you so much for your lovely comment!! 😃 That means a lot to me! 🥰

  • @PartanBree
    @PartanBree 12 дней назад +3

    I didn't know the difference between dye and pigment before - thanks!
    I believe the reason watercolour paintings don't sell for as much as oils is because historically, watercolour paints were very fugitive. We now have the technology to prevent them fading, but the perception of watercolour as a "temporary" medium lives on. The whole business of trying to make colours last in art is really interesting, thousands of years of experimentation.

  • @mad_hatt
    @mad_hatt Месяц назад +51

    I’m gonna get cheaper ones then since it apparently doesn’t matter😅 I still enjoy using the markers so I’m not gonna ditch them entirely. Just gonna start scanning my art to my laptop and avoiding the expensive stuff. Arrtx alcohol markers from now on! Thanks!

    • @charlottesmom
      @charlottesmom Месяц назад +8

      I’m so miffed to find this out after I saved for years for a set of Copics…not that I was ever going to sell the art I made but still. I guess I’ll just use them in sketchbooks and take pictures of the art. 👍🏻🎨
      The scanning idea is great!

    • @sheanartisthunty
      @sheanartisthunty Месяц назад +6

      I’ve been using off brand alcohol markers for awhile and they really are comparable for the most part. I find them at great prices at Ross and TJ Maxx

    • @wintersprite
      @wintersprite Месяц назад +3

      Some brands still blend and are less streaky than others. Also, some are refillable while others are not.

    • @mad_hatt
      @mad_hatt Месяц назад +1

      @@wintersprite true. I liked the artist loft ones when I tried those. They’re pretty cheap too!

    • @claravian
      @claravian Месяц назад +4

      Lol me too. But I must admit, there's still no cheap brand that can match the elasticity and smoothness of Copic's super brush esp for blending :') Ohuhu is close 2nd tho

  • @syzygy4365
    @syzygy4365 24 дня назад +8

    Found this out when I was making resin art. It's one of the reasons I never opened up my own shop. Alcohol ink fades. Podwers shift, resin yellows, flowers wither. It just didn't seem fair to customers. At least I had fun.

  • @LunaLove87
    @LunaLove87 13 дней назад +3

    My mom is a working illustrator and she has Copic marker illustrations from 2001 that are SUPER vibrant and haven’t faded LOL She says you need to color on acid free paper and storie the art work in acid free binders/plastics. Also, keep them away from UV rays and moisture. They’re obviously going to look different in 80 years, but 20+ years later and they look immaculate👍

  • @onozayte8701
    @onozayte8701 15 дней назад +3

    It has become really common for people to use alcohol markers as a base for realistic colored pencil drawings so the artist doesn't have to layer and burnish as much, saving time and hand pain. It's such a shame the nature of dyes isn't talked about enough as it can really be awful for people who spent a lot of time on commissions. Theres reasons some art supplies are labeled with the term archival

  • @thdraws
    @thdraws Месяц назад +30

    Excellent information. The lightfastness of coloured pencils is equally mixed. Faber Castell Polychromos are very good, but many Prismacolor colours are fugitive. There are brands like Derwent Lightfast and Caran D'Ache Luminance that are formulated for maximum lightfastness.

    • @wintersprite
      @wintersprite Месяц назад +4

      I think many mediums vary, especially with certain colors/groups. Paints can vary with how lightfast they are for the different colors.

    • @thdraws
      @thdraws Месяц назад +3

      @@wintersprite For sure. Lightfastness is definitely something to be mindful of in art materials. Good quality brands like Golden and Windsor and Newton make a point of including that in their labelling

    • @dshe8637
      @dshe8637 15 дней назад +1

      Many of the Derwents are not lightfast

    • @thdraws
      @thdraws 14 дней назад

      @@dshe8637 Absolutely. Derwent has a specific line, "Derwent Lightfast" which they claim are all in the 50-year lightfastness range.

    • @tropezando
      @tropezando 8 дней назад +1

      I didn't know about the Derwent lightfast pencil line, but I have been using their Inktense pencils and blocks because their pigments have been mixable with acrylic fabric medium and lightfast (for at least a few years).

  • @wigglyfruit4708
    @wigglyfruit4708 Месяц назад +33

    It really doesn’t matter what happens to the artwork. I’ll only care about my own art as long as I’m alive. That’s why I scan or photograph my art. The physical artwork isn’t too important anyway if I have a digital copy. I’m just gonna have a giant stack of artwork that just builds up around my room and not have any room for more art if I keep holding on to drawings and stuff. The drawings might also get damaged in a disaster if I don’t keep a copy them digitally

    • @magical571
      @magical571 17 дней назад +1

      "I’ll only care about my own art as long as I’m alive", i mean....to be fair, unless you die tomorrow, your alcohol marker art WILL fade faster than any other medium in existance, it doesn't take decades, just 2 years or so. the only worse choice would be to make art with highlighters (fluorescent pigments fade inmediately)

  • @handleiguesss
    @handleiguesss Месяц назад +15

    So, they're probably great for making art you want to scan and make prints of! Thank you for talking about this, had no idea

  • @amateurcolourist
    @amateurcolourist 20 дней назад +8

    I found using alcohol markers to "underpaint" my pictures then use coloured pencils over them - makes the colours look amazing.
    Especially in my colouring books, I would like to see you do a video on that maybe also

  • @TMcocoa
    @TMcocoa Месяц назад +16

    I got my first copics in 2010-2011 and alcohol markers not being lightfast was a huge topic back then but I see it’s not talked about that much anymore. I consider markers as a fun medium that I would use for sketching but not for anything I would sell unless it’s a print. Not sure how nuri durr sells his originals knowing that (love his work )

    • @magical571
      @magical571 17 дней назад

      i think it's mostly because very few people sticked to them beyond quick thumbnails among proffessional artists (or just scanning inmediately and selling prints). for the most part, you see either the hobbists who like either coloring books or manga drawing sticking for this material in any more meaningful degree, so there really is no point on arguing lightfastness there, those are the type of people who, for the most part, won't care about a word regarding lightfastness so long as they find the medium pretty and covenient. and the works for them, for the most part, will remain in a drawer or a book, so it's even less relevant.

    • @TMcocoa
      @TMcocoa 14 дней назад

      @@magical571 honestly I’m not worried about light fast pass 30yrs

  • @charlottesmom
    @charlottesmom Месяц назад +20

    Coming from a watercolor background lightfastness and fugitive are terms I hear a lot! I had zero idea my Copics are not lightfast….BUMMER!! I’ll use them in my sketchbooks though and take it as a quirk of the medium. 🎨
    Your scanner covered with stickers gave me a huge smile! 👍🏻😄

    • @AuroraDeLirio
      @AuroraDeLirio 18 дней назад +2

      I appreciate how colorfastness is even specified by individual color in professional watercolor brands, as well as opacity, granulation and other key characteristics. I wish other mediums were as detailed in their descriptions!

  • @briansmith303
    @briansmith303 29 дней назад +7

    What I find so curious is how fugitive the blue dyes are. I''m so used to seeing that in reds and yellows.

  • @claravian
    @claravian Месяц назад +10

    Yeah I realized this lightfastness problem right after I picked up a bunch of alcohol markers, that's why I prioritize the sensation of using the markers rather than how it looked later lol. That's also why I only bought markers with brush nibs, and after trying a bunch of diffrent brand, either cheap or expensive, now I understood that its not the ink that makes copic expensive, but rather cuz of the quality of their superbrush that made them sooo enjoyable to use :')

    • @magical571
      @magical571 17 дней назад

      yeah, cause when it comes to ink, alcohol ink is actually cheap to make lol. they aren't sticking to any single pigment confections or astm ratings, they can use fluorescent mixtures liberally, multi pigment mixes, etc. it doesn't matter since they are not made to last at all.

    • @AlexaFaie
      @AlexaFaie 14 дней назад +2

      Import costs are what really affect the price point for anyone outside of Japan. They're much cheaper there.

  • @venusalexa7367
    @venusalexa7367 Месяц назад +7

    Mine are 8+ years old, are on a wall in front of a window and are all super vibrant and the same as old footage i have with them in the background. A lot of them are laminated tho

  • @Whimsy.viviana
    @Whimsy.viviana 29 дней назад +7

    Ive been using markers for years it didnt evaporate. Just store it well in a cool place away from sun and should be okay. Yes it does evaporate under certain circumstances. Also great video , giving knowledge to people a lot of people assume they can leave the drawing out and still be the same

  • @ciomaria6137
    @ciomaria6137 13 часов назад +1

    In art history class I had learned that any blue dyes (and even some pigments) are more fugitive than yellows, oranges, and browns. This is why blues, greens, violets and some darker reds/maroons are affected.
    This can be seen in historical pieces of clothing, tapestries, and rugs that degrade/fade.

  • @arte_la_luna4995
    @arte_la_luna4995 Месяц назад +32

    Really useful info here. I had no idea that alcohol makers fade so quickly!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад +4

      Thanks for commenting! I'm so glad my video was helpful to you! 😃

  • @KitsuyuutsuR
    @KitsuyuutsuR 10 дней назад +2

    I started using watercolor pencils about a year ago and I found I enjoyed them so much more than alcohol based markers. I feel I have more control over blending with them and they seem to stay pigmented nicely. I also have watercolor markers which blend even nicer, but you know what will fade. Still makes lovely work, though.

  • @SillyNep
    @SillyNep 25 дней назад +4

    I feel like it depends for me but i mostly wouldn't mind, even just with your own examples, i still like how the art looks even with the faded colours. So i kinda feel like its just letting the art change on its own in a way.

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  24 дня назад +3

      I really like your perspective -- "just letting the art change on its own in a way". That's a nice way of looking at it. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! 😃

  • @bjdollcoloredpencil3273
    @bjdollcoloredpencil3273 Месяц назад +8

    Thank you, that you made this video. There are artist out their using markers for their expensive original comission work, and I like that someone address this issue in a video.

    • @fredericapanon207
      @fredericapanon207 14 дней назад

      The solution to that is for the recipient to scan the original and keep it in the dark, and display a print of the scan.

  • @thatwasverypunny.-.
    @thatwasverypunny.-. 26 дней назад +5

    *me, a strictly digital artist that has no plans of picking up traditional art any time soon, much less has the money to even afford alcohol markers* : ah, yes this is definitely information that I needed to know at this very moment
    lol jokes aside, very insightful video!

  • @lucys1584
    @lucys1584 Месяц назад +7

    Didn't know that expensiv markers would fade too 🫢
    I'm very thankful for this information!
    Good Vid! ☺️💖

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад +1

      So glad it was helpful! Thank you for your comment! 😃

  • @isaacclarke9554
    @isaacclarke9554 Месяц назад +15

    I'm glad you made this video, you're right I rarely ever hear other artists (and YTers) talking about this. I remember the first time I learned this I was soooooo incredibly saddened but relieved since I make it a habit of scanning my traditional artwork!

  • @KittyCraic
    @KittyCraic 14 дней назад +1

    Just unlocked a core memory with this. Wee me being gutted that my refrigerator “art” didn’t look as vibrant as my colouring book “art”. Was on the refrige for YEARS: many of the colours turned almost pastel. Also remember the mothership placing dried out pens in a jar of vinegar to revive them. My colouring books had a weird pickle stenk about them 😅

  • @carmenvogels-aagaard5559
    @carmenvogels-aagaard5559 Месяц назад +6

    I do not worry about fading at all. I usually make photo's of my work, so 1 box ticked off. I normally make cards to send to family and friends. They love my cards, but only for a few weeks. LOL They will not keep it for ever. I know that, so I am not worried. I love my alcoholmarkers!

  • @lambtoon
    @lambtoon 29 дней назад +24

    Maybe it’s the amount of layers I’ve always done but my pieces done over 25 years ago still look vibrant to me.

    • @dshe8637
      @dshe8637 15 дней назад +3

      Because you have nothing to compare them with

    • @Knight0fbl00d
      @Knight0fbl00d 12 дней назад +2

      This video is nuts. Besides, nothing lasts forever and unless you get famous your art will be largely forgotten after a few generations. That's just life.

  • @heartsaliveart
    @heartsaliveart Месяц назад +8

    I use alcohol markers as the base colors for my mixed media pictures. I also photograph my art

  • @MissShembre
    @MissShembre 12 дней назад +2

    That explains why I had to recolor one of my drawings! I thought it had just sun faded

  • @amypanddirtytoo1926
    @amypanddirtytoo1926 Месяц назад +10

    I don't care about my alcohol marker art. Because I already know they're fugitive so when I create something with them it's with the knowledge that it's going to fade in a few days or weeks, whether I leave them in the dark or not. Like in my sketchbook which is just for fun and practice! Or, like you said, if I just plan on scanning the image to post on social media! And if anyone would like a copy, that is exactly what they will get: a copy!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts! That sounds like the right approach! 😃

  • @jpmlna
    @jpmlna Месяц назад +6

    THANK-YOU SO MUCH for the information! I was quite confused as to why some of my swatches from 3 years ago look so different from the fresh colour that comes out from the markers. I honestly thought it was my fault for not doing a proper swatch then. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Anyway to answer your question, I do art for myself only so it doesn't bother me that marker art doesn't last long. However, it does also clear up something else for me - I've been wondering whether to replenish some of my marker colours but now I've decided not to. I'll just continue using the markers until there's no more ink left. Anyway my main art focus has always been watercolour painting.😀Great video!!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад +3

      So glad this info was helpful to you! 😃 It can be quite a shock when you first notice how different your colors look a few years later. I try to redo my color charts every year, so that I can be sure I'm looking at an accurate color chart when I pick my colors! 😁 Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

  • @LeeAnnahsCreations
    @LeeAnnahsCreations Месяц назад +5

    This is why I always apply colored pencil over my marker layer.

  • @syddlinden8966
    @syddlinden8966 5 дней назад +1

    Digital decay is also a thing. Remember to have redundant backups and copy things to updated storage formats every 10 or so years.

  • @fuzzydragons
    @fuzzydragons Месяц назад +5

    I honestly thought this was basic common knowledge about markers, even with copics 😛

  • @coconutdreams1238
    @coconutdreams1238 Месяц назад +9

    I only use alcohol markers in doodles for my journals and I've noticed that they look pretty much the same as they used to years ago :)
    But art that I've made on paper and stored on my desk has notably gotten a little less vibrant.

  • @MinaF99
    @MinaF99 15 дней назад +3

    I believe W&N sell or used to sell ”pigment markers” which are lightfast

  • @Anne_Onymous
    @Anne_Onymous 17 дней назад +2

    So glad this was discussed!
    Kinda sad. I guess one could take high resolution scans of their work for permanent preservation, but it's obviously just not the same as the original.

  • @caustic.caffeine
    @caustic.caffeine 22 дня назад +2

    digital artist here ; i kinda feel like i stumbled into a conversation i wasn’t supposed to listen to xD this is all very interesting though, i’ve been considering practicing traditional art so this is all very cool

  • @CeeC_CeeC
    @CeeC_CeeC 23 дня назад +2

    I haven’t used Copic and other markers in years because I mainly draw on ipad, but i miss using them. Digital art is just cleaner and i can erase and redraw infinitely, and i can adjust the colors until im happy with them.

  • @entercreativename
    @entercreativename Месяц назад +3

    Really glad to have seen this! I've been considering getting a smaller set of alcohol markers, though I usually have been using watercolor and through my life, have not cared much for using markers in general. I think for now I'll save my money and put it back into future supplies when I need more of what I have been using the most.

  • @Buffylove27
    @Buffylove27 Месяц назад +4

    I just ran across this video, and you did an excellent job with explaining, providing options, and a very good pace! I look forward to seeing more of your videos!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад

      Thanks so much for your comment! I'm so glad my video was helpful to you! 😃🎨✨

  • @gemstone108
    @gemstone108 14 дней назад +2

    I just like them because of the texture. You can’t really get the same flat smoothness with a tiny bit of paper texture without brush strokes with something like paint or digital :( (yes, I have used marker-style brushes for procreate but those force you to layer over and over to get the desired saturation and you can’t lift your hand or else it fucks up. I know real markers are kinda the same but it’s DIFFERENT idk…)

  • @JennaGetsCreative
    @JennaGetsCreative 6 дней назад +1

    I scan every alcohol marker piece I create as soon as it's done, and store them in boxes. Anything that's getting displayed gets varnished, but I don't use markers in commissions.

  • @LynMaloney
    @LynMaloney Месяц назад +3

    Another wonderful video, Thaneeya. I had no idea that alcohol markers fade, so this whole video was very helpful. Your knowledge is amazing. Xx🙂👍👏

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks so much for your comment, Lyn! Glad my video was helpful to you! 😃🎨

  • @caitlinn8616
    @caitlinn8616 9 дней назад +1

    So this is why my old art looks worse than I remember it being....
    Thank you!

  • @woolpuppy
    @woolpuppy 17 дней назад +1

    Watercolors have this problem too, but they are made with pigment. It's ultraviolet exposure in the sun from a window.

  • @Lunangel
    @Lunangel Месяц назад +4

    Awww this makes me sad. I recently got into using Ohuhu alcohol markers as they are so fun to color with but it does worry me that the colors will end up fading away. 😢

    • @cgilbert210
      @cgilbert210 Месяц назад +2

      I think they’ll be okay if you’re using a sketchbook where light won’t hit it. You can always photograph your art or scan it when you’re done to preserve it.

    • @Lunangel
      @Lunangel Месяц назад

      @@cgilbert210 ooh. I do try to keep my notebooks away from strong light. And that's a very good idea. Thank you so much! ❤️

  • @sheilacym
    @sheilacym Месяц назад +2

    Great video, Thaneeya ….thank you 🤩💕

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks so much, Sheila! 😃

  • @MajaFredskilde
    @MajaFredskilde День назад +1

    Thank you so much for your videos. You are very good at explaining in human way! ;-)
    I've just started drawing, and I need to understand a bit, mixing the different colors, is it just something you try, or can you explain colors in some way? Hope you understand. Kind regards, Maja from Denmark

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  4 часа назад

      Thanks so much for your lovely comment! 😃💖 I'm happy that you like my videos! When you asked about mixing the different colors, are you referring to alcohol markers specifically? If so, I have a free 90-minute alcohol markers class here: www.art-is-fun.com/free-alcohol-markers-course 🎨

  • @tinyshinyfeathers
    @tinyshinyfeathers Месяц назад +3

    I'm not a marker user, but it'll be good to know that they're so prone to fading if I ever get some. :)

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад +2

      Glad the info was helpful to you in case you ever do use markers! 😃

  • @DazzlingAction
    @DazzlingAction Месяц назад +3

    If you have an inked out line with it. The outlines will keep most of the time...(depends on the ink you've used.)
    If anything after 3 years or so you can reclaim your paper for more marker work.
    Markers more for fun if anything :)

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад +1

      That’s a healthy perspective! Thank you for sharing your thoughts! 😃🎨

  • @veggiestan9500
    @veggiestan9500 Месяц назад +4

    I had no idea this was a thing! Such useful information!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад

      Glad it was helpful! 😊

  • @rufusjune9163
    @rufusjune9163 Месяц назад +4

    I had no idea! Thanks for sharing! 🙂

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад

      Glad the info was useful to you! Thanks for commenting! 😃

  • @sofia_aa
    @sofia_aa 27 дней назад +1

    i did a lightfastness test on a cheap marker set i bought. I wasnt expecting much, but the colors did fairly well after a couple weeks, except the violet lol, that one was completely gone after a few days!

  • @teijaflink2226
    @teijaflink2226 Месяц назад +1

    I haven't noticed this with my alcohol markers, like at all but I only use them on my colouring books that I likely wont save forever but still bit sad about this because I live alcohol markers, they are so easy and comfortable to paint with.

  • @SuperDuckyWho
    @SuperDuckyWho 15 дней назад +1

    Oh wow! I had no idea they did this and I have a feeling a lot of artists don't, so thanks for making this! I'm sure they still have their purpose but for art someone's planning to gift or sell as an original (and not a print) it doesn't seem like a good choice. It does make me a little sad but like you said... all pigments fade eventually. Even my colored pencil art has smeared or faded over the last 10 or 15 years.

  • @alexandraardnaxela6367
    @alexandraardnaxela6367 15 дней назад +1

    I didnt know they fade!! Ty for this cool information omg

  • @fkhan2006
    @fkhan2006 Месяц назад +4

    you are an amazing teacher! you present that information really really well! You speak clearly and give so many options about alternatives and solutions!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад

      Thank you so much! I really appreciate your positive feedback on my video and teaching style! 😃🎨🌟

  • @marcievega7972
    @marcievega7972 Месяц назад +9

    I’m in it for the moment, so I really don’t care about fading. ☺️

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад

      Me too! 😊 It is what it is, and the important thing is to enjoy it in the moment! 🎨💕

    • @BlessedForever888
      @BlessedForever888 Месяц назад +1

      Me too!

    • @charlottesmom
      @charlottesmom Месяц назад +1

      That’s a great attitude! 👍🏻🎨

  • @marnierose7816
    @marnierose7816 20 дней назад +1

    I’m just grateful I found this out now

  • @sunnafae.1886
    @sunnafae.1886 Месяц назад +2

    This is helpful, I actually never knew this!

  • @anrijupiter
    @anrijupiter Месяц назад +2

    I’m surprised that you only got 5.5k subs. This video was so informative. Thank you for the quality content!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks sp much for your comment! 💖 It's really great to hear that my video was useful to you! 😃

  • @MadisonBriggsArtchick
    @MadisonBriggsArtchick 18 дней назад +1

    You are super talented and very good at video creation. I appreciate learning about this situation before I attempt to use any alcohol markers. As a painter and mixed media artist, I have always only used pigment markers. As a graphic designer/art director for print media, I used to use alcohol markers for graphic design color overlays that were not the final art. I think I will probably avoid using these kind of markers on my work as I want my vibrant colors to stay vibrant. Thank you!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  18 дней назад

      Thanks so much for your positive feedback on my videos ~ it means a lot to me! 🥰 Thank you also for sharing your thoughts about alcohol markers!

  • @Mingyu3333
    @Mingyu3333 Месяц назад +17

    quality content 🫰

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks so much! 😃

  • @LocalLooney
    @LocalLooney 27 дней назад +1

    i exist underground and most of my marker art is in stacks or books or something in addition, so unless i used bad paper for it i havent noticed much, but that 2.5 yr difference with regular light is wild

  • @Draconiangem
    @Draconiangem Месяц назад +3

    Scanning them into my computer is my main form of presentation. ;) They stay in protected folders and sketchbooks otherwise.

  • @icannotbeseen
    @icannotbeseen 12 дней назад +1

    I love paint markers. I have a large set of Karin decobrush pens and they are lovely. It’s like a very, very convenient way to paint, once you find a paper that works well with them.

  • @danielle-bi3tk
    @danielle-bi3tk 3 дня назад +2

    omg thank u so much i thought something was wrong with my supplies cause no one talks about it

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  День назад +1

      Glad my video was helpful to you! 😃

  • @ofraar8959
    @ofraar8959 Месяц назад +4

    You are so professional and your material helps me a lot!
    Waiting for more😃

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад

      Thanks so much! I'm so happy my videos are helpful to you! 😃🎨

  • @samexahr3326
    @samexahr3326 17 дней назад +1

    My primary medium is pencil, I also do digital. Ive been using alcohol markers for about 4 years, being introduced with Jazzas Jazzy Art Box. Generally on Printer Paper. My oldest Alcohol marker artworks haven't faided to a notable degree authough I don't display it. Store it in the dark or covered with other pencil artworks & notes.

  • @j.desroches1497
    @j.desroches1497 3 дня назад +1

    Wow, thank you for the useful information!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  3 дня назад

      So glad it was helpful to you! 😃

  • @yasmincheree
    @yasmincheree Месяц назад

    What if you put modge podge would that help the color stay or no?

  • @Doodlebirds1
    @Doodlebirds1 12 дней назад

    I use pencils with marker and that’s probably another reason for less fading on my works.
    Then again I use archival paper, seal the originals in plastic and then store them in a dark folio in a dark place. My stuff hasn’t faded that much at all as a result.
    This is still important information for people to know before hanging up marker art or selling it mind you.

  • @AquaDreiger
    @AquaDreiger Месяц назад +4

    Never knew about this nor ever heard of this so pretty useful, i'm glad now to have this information going forward (have been using alcohol markers for like 2 years)
    also that whole scanning your art you have done with markers was a good idea i should probably do that my self even though i have until now only taken pictures with my phone 😅

    • @fredericapanon207
      @fredericapanon207 14 дней назад +1

      It is hard to be completely perpendicular to the artwork when taking a photo to avoid distortion unless you hang on a wall and use a tripod.

  • @kathylovesmk
    @kathylovesmk 15 дней назад +1

    Opera Pink is my favorite color in any medium, so I'm very familiar with the term "fugitive"!😭 Great information, thank you!!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  15 дней назад

      I know what you mean ~ I LOVE Opera Pink!!! 😭 At least we can enjoy it while it lasts! Thank you for your comment! 💖

  • @etherealdreamerart
    @etherealdreamerart Месяц назад +3

    This video is a joy to watch. Your art is so pretty and vibrant. 😊

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад

      Thank you so much!! 😃🎨💖

  • @crystalfranklin2583
    @crystalfranklin2583 20 дней назад +1

    I've actually thought about this and wondered if there was anything you can do to prevent fading with alcohol markers. I guess it's just fun, fast and most people probably aren't concerned about lightfastness, but if you're a professional artist selling your art, alcohol markers probably aren't the tool to use.

  • @debprado
    @debprado Месяц назад +2

    I love your videos!!! So happy to see a new one 🎉! Great info as always

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад

      Thanks so much, Deb! That means a lot to me! 😃🎨💖

  • @cynax7757
    @cynax7757 19 дней назад +1

    I started using alcohol markers recently and the experience makes me feel humble.

  • @dollyvore
    @dollyvore 21 день назад +1

    Thank you so much for the information and also made in such good way. Your sound is amazing also!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  20 дней назад +1

      Thank you so much! Glad it was helpful! 😃

  • @user-tk1qx
    @user-tk1qx 26 дней назад +1

    Love this video smmn. Im shocked that NO ONE talks about this..

  • @SteenatheCatrobat
    @SteenatheCatrobat 16 дней назад

    Does laminating help preserve it at all?

  • @LeeDee5
    @LeeDee5 22 дня назад +1

    My supply of choice is usually lightfast colored pencils. But alcohol markers are fun too.

  • @iSheree
    @iSheree Месяц назад +3

    Take a photo or scan your artwork. Enjoy the process instead.

  • @Colordripd2217
    @Colordripd2217 Месяц назад +1

    Just found your channel! Love your art. And great video of so many golden nuggets.

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks so much! 😃 That means a lot to me! 🥰🎨

  • @mozzarella_sparklefox
    @mozzarella_sparklefox 17 дней назад

    I made some art with twin markers (a cheap alcohol marker brand sold over here) And after laminating it, it lasted for years, even after hanging on my wall. I still have some pieces from over three years ago that look just like they did when I first made them. I did the first ones on printer paper, the ones I still have are on cheap watercolor paper. I dont know if Im just really lucky or something, but its worth a try

  • @StickySkeletonArt
    @StickySkeletonArt Месяц назад +2

    This was one of the most helpful and clearly explained videos about these markers, thank you!!

    • @thaneeya
      @thaneeya  Месяц назад

      Thanks so much! Glad it was helpful! 😃