Centre not fair to South? Tharoor and Thiagarajan discuss
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- Опубликовано: 26 фев 2023
- South India contributing more to GDP, but getting less share of taxes? Two leading politicians from the South, both opposed to the governing BJP, spoke on federalism at the Mathrubhumi International Festival of Letters.
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South is being punished for progress while North remains busy in Hindu-Muslim.
Just stop playing the victim card. Even states like Maharastra and Gujrat pays more taxs and get less in return. They are not crying here. The fact is, This happens in every democratic country where poor states get more. And if you are still not happy then let me remain you that, this is not permanent it is temporary. One day those states will develop and sustain itself
Didn’t change in 75 yrs !! People in hindi heartland love hindi muslim caste over education industry obviously it is not fair.
@@vanithav7339 Who TF are u to split lol???
U don't represent entire South India
And if u want to split, u can try it😁
@@byron2477 There is a beginning to all good things & somebody must start talking about it. If majority of the people also have the same intention, things will fall in place brother. There will be no going back. 😊
@@vanithav7339 Yeah sure keep thinking that majority has the same views lol
And talking about freedom u should ask Kashmir how it feels, they are quite enjoying that
This is how educated, well mannered, leaders communicate!
No not educated
He is misleading people
This is taxation we are talking about
Not about reward or punishment system
Cinemas and IT can yield you more money than agriculture but one is essential of survival and one is for quality of survival
Things are not as black and white as this gentleman wants to portray
@@hobbithallowsdo you think tamilnadu not doing agriculture? 😂. Still many districts in tamilnadu revenues majorly depends on agri. Our question is why they can't bring industry/education/IT/Cinemas to their poor states? Let me know if you have answer
Be frank , don’t say anything to North Indians they are blind !
@@surenthramm1158 😀okay Since you wanted let it me give it to you but please don't spam illogical thing my this account is purely for my study purpose...
1.Why Industry are established- to produce goods?? & But why industry-- because of large scale production and this is all part of Capitalism.... INDUSTRY & CAPITALISM is important here note it ..
2.Basic of Capitalism- maximise Profit..
( Requires low Price Raw materials, cheap labour (eg industry avg is around 12% of Cost price)....
Point to note two-
2.1. Low cost raw materials
2.2. Cheap labour
3. I had marked two things in point 1&2
@1.CAPITALISM's basic rule - areas rich in resources are genuinely kept poor to maximize profit...
Biggest Eg {Half Africa exports oil half exports gold and diamond}...
@2Industry -requires coals to operate (also the basic cause of global warming, from USA- to China all Industry runs on Coal)..... Where is coal found in India ????
#Chota-Nagpur Plateau... Jharkhand (then Bihar) has the biggest Coal mine of India..
#Bihar- Is the source of highest Gold reserves in India accounting for 48%
These areas are manipulated for Raw materials & minerals,
opening industry will get High labour cost In turn making Material coastly.. since they are victims of Capitalism Maoist &Naxals are found in these areas Tirupati Temple (Andhra) in South to Pashupati temple in North(Nepal)...
Conclusion of story- (a)don't showoff Industry to those people whose Raw materials are soul to these...
it just spread hatred and provides loss to nation in end..
(b)Your politician advertised Industry and all...had it been unilateral job than we were not lagged in grabbing Companies from Vietnam and other ASEAN nations which came after companies quited China...
(C)go and Study some books, ( you're just puppet of this Big level Politics don't act like a queen)...
I hope this was it...Check and Mate...
we need a separate country
Being North Indian, i fully agree to South Indian concern
What about Gujarat and Maharashtra ???
@@sledgehammer1968 Gujarat gets enough central projects going in the state
@@dravidian667 Maharashtra has highest gdp in the country and also its a North Indian state as per the language belt !
@@sledgehammer1968 They produce companies in which rest of the Indians work 😂All hail Maharashtra and gujrat
@@sledgehammer1968 Maharashtra is not north, go study geography
North is UP, Bihar, and all of the Hindi belt
North India must be penalised for not reaching population targets. India must reward the South Indian states because they will develop and also contribute more taxes to other states in the north and that will help develop those states
That's true. But donot generalise entire north as one state. There are certain specific states that are laggard.
Just like states which have profligate policies like OPS, free power etc should also be penalised - let these guys bat for the same.
South Indian independence is the only solution
@@naiyayika India is a multi language country
@@kartikrajsingh1895 South Indian Independence🤓
Lmao says a north Indian
We South Indian states Andhra, Telangana, tamilnadu Karnataka, Kerala should be United and have strong voice at the centre
Agreed!
Jihadi Sulla puncherwala freeloaders.
We Kannadigas don't want to be roped in with black tamils.
@@martianmartian4037 BSDK I am Hindu 😂
@@adityadeshakulakarni4460 . Kannada Pride
Honestly Today's best analytic Conversation I have seen in Internet.
The Finance Minister of TN has done some good homework hatsoff to all TN brothers 😊🙏🇮🇳
That's his job. Obviously he has to be good with numbers and data.
Do check out this educational qualification....He is well qualified for that post while Nirmala jii is 😂
@@sibisanjayYou'd be surprised how many politicians in North dropped out from elementary school😂 and can't do basic maths. Your TN state leader almost sounds like PhD in front of some like lalu prasad yadav who needs to spit out of his gutka before formulating basic sentences.
"It's not the money that we begrudge. We live in one country, we want everybody to grow. " - Pure golden words
Yes the whole point that people are missing is that they are not saying that this should not happen but rather incentivize the winners more than the losers.
@@TheRaju991 these loser states also control the politics and government of India like parasites.
We should put president rule in Bihar until it comes close to national average.
@@idzkk also in UP and MP
@@idzkk how would that help?
I like palanivel thyagarajan's closing remark... Centre pays more to UP and Bihar but don't see significant outcomes in terms of GDP, literacy, etc., when compared to Southern states...
UP is the third largest state of india in terms of GSDP...
All money used to buy gutka and panmasala 😅
Responsibilty of the each and every govt is to allot more funds to under developed states and to help them in developing ...it's the basic muddha ... What is the use of you guys ...brainless idiots
@@ANAND_CS something they are buying .... voting nature is horrible in nature in southern states
@@Vshal99 fir Paisa kyu le Raha hai center se Bhikari Chuttar Pradesh 🤪🤣
What is even more sadder is After all this contribution, reducing poverty, population control, and tax paid. The reward for TN and Kerala got anti-nationalism because of following different ideologies and being progressive.
There is a reason no one accuses karnataka, telangana, andhra of anti-nationalism or separatism because the politicians there dont talk about separatism and dont have the separatist dravidian movement. we can see brainwashed tamils with dravidian idealogy talking about separation in comments
Yeah. Started to hate north India for this very reason. Being blind to progress is one thing, trying to blame TN and malayalis is another level..
In kannda their is saying " somebody's money somebody's marriage..
@@user-op8ok1bu6d South Indian startup founders should set up their company in tier 2&3 cities in South India instead of metro cities,
Let's see how many north indians migrate there, Also Zoho owner Sridhar vembu done this very well, Every startup should follow it
Kerala is not Contributing anything, shitty state, all malyalee comes to mysore,mangalore or.bangalore to work.
The way I see it, what is happening is.. tax from Southern states are used to build Shivaji statues and Sardar Patel statues... Rather than create economic corridors.
They are not even worth that much first up. Second their cost has been already recovered.
@@pranavkanttripathi2971 if so then go on build the same statues and temples. how ever they are recoverable right so no problem.
Maharashtra is richest state in India, we don't need and we never got ur tax money 😂we have inuff money to build 100s of statues of Shivaji Maharaj in arebean sea🚩
@@pranavkanttripathi2971you think you're so smart and we're all fools.
Don't involve Chhatrapati Shivaji and Maharashtra in discussion bro.... Maharashtra can buy Tamil Nadu and Kerala both in Cash...so please just don't do that😂😂😂
We can spend any amount for our hero Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj 🚩
I am from Uttar pradesh, and I agree that money shouldn't poured down the drain. I like the last comment from the minister we should see progress.
People of UP, Bihar should be held accountable for this. (including me).
Population shouldn't be misused like this.
get your facts right up is the fastest growing economy in the country the infrastructure boom in up itself will land it much ahead of most southern states , only 5 states have a 200billion dollar economy up is one of them , do not fall for this shit problem with up bihar was social structure before talking about economies we forget people in this region first required basic human rights for standing shoulder to shoulder with rich landlords , it took 40-50 years to be socially equal for most people in up bihar now their time has come up is already reving the throttle.
@@saikiranrao194 Oh please stop pulling out points from your ass. This is from the official data the country with the Fastest growing Major Economies in India is
1.Gujarat 8.2 Cagr
2.Karnataka. 7.3 Cagr
3.Haryana . 7.0 Cagr
4. Madhya Pradesh. 6.7 Cagr
5.Andhra Pradesh
6. Telangana
7. TamilNadu
These are the facts, you may keep denying it . But in reality nobody wants to invest in land of Gundas and Bhikaris like Bihar and U.P.
2.
@@saikiranrao194 If base is low everything is fast growing. India is fast growing economy than China but china has 18 trillion (even a 6% increase is 1.08 trillion) while indian base is 2.5 trillion) so indian needs to have 50% growth rate to just match china economy growth but India just has 8% (which is just a joke ). So learn economy first per capita of UP is 1265dollar that of Tamilnadu, Kerala,.....is more than 3200dollars so more than double of UP
Go back to up and don't come to South
@@tejesheconomics4072 why do u bring percapita here u must take the base of gsdp n do the calculation
Very rational points. As someone from UP, UP and Bihar are literally parasitic states. The govts here purposely keeps the people underdeveloped so that they can play their politics. They keep them engaged in casteism and religious matters. I request my south brothers and sisters to take up this issue seriously with their govt and get what you all deserve from centre. It's time UP and Bihar start learning some lesson. Also restrict labour and daily wage workers from these states to come to your state because they have no self respect. They'll never question their own govt but will leave their homes to find work in other states.
I agree with everything u said, except the last statement. The poor labourers and daily wage workers from these states don't have the voice or power to question those in govt. They shud not be penalized, they already suffer from many problems.
I am from Karnataka brother. I understand the hardship faced by bihar and UP labourers. We want these states to reduce their fertility rate at the earliest. Bihar was the land of Ashoka. We want it to gain its glory days back.
You are not from UP. Your comment regarding labourers makes it very clear. Please don't peddle hate in disguise. I have come across a lot of people like you who use these tactics, I can see through you.
Average akhilesh supportet
Ya bro but recently you get 150 medical Colleges nut in my telangana 0 the total govt medical Colleges below 8 in 2014 after 8 years of time we didn't get single college.my state govt allocate founds by own to construct
100% Agree that Center is Discriminating South India, Especially Karnataka! Politicians allot more projects where they find larger vote bank or they allot more developmental projects to their home states just like Uttar Pradesh and Gujarat. Where as the tax collection is coming much more from south Indian states.
get your facts right state of karnatka apart from bangluru and hubli dharawad has not been able to come up with a single city to chanalize the human resources of this part of the country , banglore is the hub of service sector and evry scintific or enginering company is always based in banglore be it it companies be it software or public sector center always gave it to karnatka or maharastra , Gujrat has 4-5 cities of comparable strengths rajkot , ahmedabad , surat , jamnagar , vadodra it urbanized much better karnataka hosts a dense evergreen jungle called western ghats there is no way ports to be built here therfore only one major port in manglore gujrat on the other hand is a barren desert hence full of ports and oil refineries .
@@saikiranrao194 but it doesn't account to such less returns bro ..... Not only are we managing our own population in Karnataka we are managing countless number of you north Indians residing in our cities....
@@saikiranrao194 you've forgotten Mangalore and mysore
@@todochannel9771 Fact I am from Hyderabad 😂not from north That's Talengana , being from Hyderabad we are much more cosmopolitan and diverse started speaking Hindi during the Nizams and Marathas . And please Do not fall for this shit problem with up bihar was social structure before talking about economies we forget people in this region first required basic human rights for standing shoulder to shoulder with other humans , it took 40-50 years to be socially equal for most people in up bihar now their time has come up is already reving the throttle , GDP of up is only behind maharastra and Tamil Nadu. What all southern states did in say 50-60 yrs Up inherently did it is 10-15 yrs this is what numbers on the table can do .
@@bonemarrow3439 yupp I said manglore is the only major port in Karnataka , Mysore is still a town it's more the cultural capital of Karnataka .
Absolutely agree. The South wants to see substantial progress in Bihar, UP, West Bengal etc . Someone must tell me why is it Bihar is not creating the amount of jobs for it's locals that many travel so long in search of even small scale jobs, in spite of relief for Industrial Taxes in the state. Otherwise, let's see if the federal govt gives more control to states over how much that contribute to the center. Atleast the southern states can use it on stuff like subsidized education, free healthcare etc.
They talk about existing issue from these states
@@gunaseelanselvakumar6247 and did i say anything different?
@@DAG924 no but understand issue from these points of view because of most states know people living condition but people why is not rise issue within states?.There is no rise issue within states because of lack resource to get proper education . You ask why ? because of the any political party ( congress or bjp ) want people live like these condition and to get from these resource. But not happen my state( Tamilnadu) because of the Former Chief minister kamaraj and thes e develop base for development in Tamilnadu.He ( kamaraj) give contribution so much education and equal to give different castes of people to get.Only change possible elect person to good contribution for our society but not individual.
@@gunaseelanselvakumar6247 Well everything isn't perfect with south states as well but we are doing good when compared to them in this aspect. We have lot of allegations of corruption if dealt with we can progress even further.
@@DAG924 There is a corruption and no progress happen but see the progress and not right kind of develop because of the solution for problem in short term basis but not long term.
As a country we should have this discussion.
Forget economic progress with money they recieve States like Bihar , uttar Pradesh , West Bengal Rajasthan should have atleast basic infrastructure like roads , hospitals primary schools...
Lack of these facilities points out to a systemic rot of corruption that is present in these states..
Are you saying these states don't even have road, i have heard that Rajasthan has good road infrastructure
@@Playerone1287 But rajasthan lacks in medical, industries huge caste based crimes and castiest mentality.
@@AveekKundu Rajasthan is have good health infrastructure, that's why rajasthan didn't suffer much in COVID, i am from haryana but my mom is from rajasthan, so i know a good deal about rajasthan, people from harayana go to rajasthan for good health services
@@AveekKundu i am definitely sure rajasthan health is better than karanataka and 2 Telugu states
@@Playerone1287 really health infra is good in cities what about towns and villages? what about crime rates, caste related crimes and scamming? from rickshaw drivers to road vendors everyone scams foreigners, fathers hang their daughters frro caste. First thing a rajashtanui asks is not name but caste. Dude north is worst in crimes and let alone employment. Everyone knows where north indians go for work.
As someone from tn, working in karanataka. Paying around 10k in taxes every month, i strongly can see this being a thing within 5-years. Already most people in south are leaving India for this very reason. Andhra has large number of people moving to us as students.
I am from from Kerala. And I'm currently watching this video from Germany. Your Comment makes perfect sense.
After a point, people will be frustrated with contributing so much in taxes and seeing all of it going down the drain.
At least in many western nations you'll be covered by social security and other benifits, which will payoff the tax you contribute to that country.
And after moving to USA, or any foreign countries, ready to pay 30 to 40% tax. And here still we ask for tax exemptions. 😅
@@nishanthraagav lol, tax slab is 30% in India for 15 LPA+ salary. So it's an easy decision.
People can pay the same rate in some developed nations and get much more benefits.
@@victorious777 fun fact only people in IT and business persons earn in that slab. Around 70 to 80 % of indians don't have that income. 😜😜. So it's like who earns should pay for betterment of others
Same goes for Odisha... centre drains away the mines and minerals from the state without giving any royalty and ignoring for special status.
Well said
Tru
True
Upper caste and fake Tibet sc hp utharkand etc special status states and 30 percent population in india govt jobs and roads bridges canteen by army and Delhi huge supplies jobs
This is a very rational conversation. The BIMARU states cannot remain the same for ever.
Bimau. The "r" Rajasthan is okay now.
@@mverick5444 Oh I’m Rajasthani I think Rajasthan is still a bimaru state. Almost all North Indian states except Punjab are bimaru
@@kartikrajsingh1895 good blame yourself for making bimaru state . you good for nothing .
Like Gulf labour Kerala and Sterlite Tamil Nadu?
@@naiyayika why you hating south?
Are you from up?🤣
DIFFERENT between finance ministry of UP and TN.... Northern stàte minister are based on communalism but in South depends upon education
What is TN gsdp growth rate for 2023-24? It's 13% and for UP it's 19.4% now cry
@@Uda_dunga according to UP's annual budget report the GSDP growth rate for 2023-24 is 5.8%...
Odisha amazes me. They are doing something right in infra, healthcare, education , sports ….. they are not big things but they are helping its people to earn a livelihood.
They've had the same govt for 20 years
Agreed
political stability in odisha is exceptional
Yet we see poor man taking his dead wife on bulluck cart to hospital no be
False odisha lags in development
TamilNadu's PTR and Kerala's Sashi Tharoor....what a fire combination 🔥🔥
Bring in Kannada people. We Kannadigas are the biggest job makers and tax payers.
Kannada speakers like Dr.K.Sudhakar and Sudha Murthy must be brought into the conversation
@@joshuajoshua8417 I know that because I'm from Bengaluru. See politically we don't oppose the centre as good as TN or Kerala. So We are losing it already. Bengaluru is full of people from North vandalising it. Already Hindi is spoken in many parts of Bengaluru. If you want to stop this exploitation start opposing politically.
@@KU-jh1dw LMFAO ? why are tamzies and mallus in bangalore then ? byaversi
@@sagarshetty3175 Listen... We are NOT discussing about who is most developed among South. But what will happen if we let the Centre take power on us. Our languages and cultures will be vanishing slowly. Karnataka and Kannadigas with 119 BJP MLAs will not have the sense to understand this.
That's why we must have local government in South India. And not central controlled government like in Karnataka. We south must unite and fight
JDS coming soon 😎
@@pandeyd5848 what jds
Right
Dr.Shasi Tharoor should disclose about the favor got during Congress regime and comparison between North and South.
These are very reasonable insights and we need to resolve it immediately to allow India to reach greater heights.
nothing about this discussion is reasonable. stop being stupid and falling into these tamzie propagandas. the amount of temples these DMK sepoys nepo kids of karunanidhi have destroyed is countless.
I am from Madhya Pradesh and I understand south indian states concern they want whole india to grow . It is not about money but it is about us(north and central states) taking part in the growth of our economy . We should walk the path of development as brothers . Things will change .🤞
Den equal allocation of fund is the best outcome. Most of the leaders doesn't have vision. South is in progress way, because of few politicians, we are unable to grow much more than we targeted. If it continues, anything may happen in near future, because nobody is no ones slave.
Population density of Madhyapradesh is less than Tamilnadu and fertility rate of mp is 2.0 which is good yess I agree we need economic growth in MP but comparing population of MP with other southern states is not fair MP is the 2nd biggest state area wise so it's obvious that we will have more population.
@@preethamrayi7833 no need to fund more PFI in kerala . no thanks.
U guy's r more busy in hindu Muslims conflict
@@sagarshetty3175wht are u onto. Are u stupid? Such a mentally of pple will lead of succession of states frm Indian union. If there is no funding then the pple of the state will suffer, basic development will not take place. Spewing hatred over whole state because of one banned organisation
South Indians don't have much problem with the central government reallocating their taxes to northern regions, but has problem with the imposition of northern language and culture over them.
ahh this shit again , all those Indian companies operating from south arent they mostly northern owned , genrating so much income in the south ?? the culture is loosely same throughout Indian states coming to language no one ever imposed any thing on any one (what nehru was tring was to replicate what attaturk did in turkey search for it he created a notion of one ness by eradicating arabic and persian from turkey creating a new turkic language and identity for turks, nehru failed now Modi is doing it with religion ) all govt places have 3 language formats , in cities the more cosmopolitan and diverse the people become the more a single language is required for communication like mumbai , hydrabad , pune soon chennai and banglore will be more hindi spaeaking on the streets this is an organic transition and will happen it is not imposition
yup english is not foreign language 😂 your dummy politicians know once they remove language barrier then national parties will again try to make inroads ... so easiest thing to keep them away is langauge fight ...
does the B S in your name stand for bull shit?
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I never face language imposition me or my circle Why can't u guys live Normal? Instead keep digging each & evening so
Yes we have problem we have our own language
This issue has been there for decades. But the difference is just widening. Unable to see much progress in most of the Hindi heartland. Initially they were seen as "beemar states" and it was by & large ok to help. But over a period of time they are simply parasitic. With all due respect these states should develop if they have to contribute to India's overall development.
That's true
@Prakash kumarI'm freight benefit went to Gujarat and Maharashtra because of their pro business policies and access to Arabian sea
@Prakash kumar it just doesn’t make sense.
@nope Next joke pls
Mallus and Dumeels crying. Kerala is the most parasitic state. Dumeels have no problem coming to blr and begging for jobs.
The accuracy of this analysis by PTR is flawless, whoever made the plan to fund poorer states for infinite amount of time is dumb to the core....guess only in India it so happens that well to do states gets penalised for performing well.
lol looking at comments here, bimaru states are no longer bimaru, look at growth rates of bimaru states vs other states, clearly they will be on the same level in 30 years but unlike south they will have much bigger economies than south ever did or ever can have, so instead of crying you should start investing, it is going to be like priniting money, wont get this chance again.
@@Someone-nv1cj seriously a bigger economy than south ever had and ever will be that's very ambitious, everyone can have a dream and unless you head these states, I'm afraid with the present gobar heads🤣 in power its not happening ever.
@@BB-gr3mo Biggest economy in south is Karnataka where mallus and dumeels are begging for jobs.
@@martianmartian4037 don't brag kannada thikas are themselves beggars of MNCs and begging electricity from dumeels, laude ka bal vattal nagaraj.
@@martianmartian4037 Tipu sultan humiliated you
I am a resident of UP. I definitely feel our growth has long been stagnant. Our population has grown out of proportion and we are struggling to meet with demands. The road and other infrastructure is now strongly developing but we are still far behind in terms of Job generation. I want other states to put pressure on the UP government to control this population.
Why don't u too start campaigning in ur area?
Yup true it UP developments it'll be a great boast to Indian economy burden will be less on maha,and south
I am from UP and totally agree with FM of Tamilnadu.
The money is not able to make an impact bcoz it is used to build old age homes for cows, huge statues, cow ambulances etc
Yes
Don't forget temples instead of hospitals
@@pokemonitishere202 Hindu Temples pay a lot of Tax. No other Religious place contributes that much of money. Get ur facts corrected first. Money spent on Temple and especially Ram Mandir is not even close to the amount of money which Temples pay in a yr
@@pokemonitishere202 temple money from private fund it's not tax money. Why you people are so hindu phobic? Always attacking ram temple.
Organising Cow Valentine's Day
Such a wonderful point - With getting lowest amount of taxes back South States have achieved better Roads, Hospitals and infrastructure 🔥🔥....
Thank God we here south are ruled by regional parties which are more developed than north ,the main aim in North side is to win elections rather than development we as Indians should thank congress party for this much developement if bjp had ruled this many years then we would definately become another pakistan by fighting within ourself
Agree. Regional parties are the best to represent a state. I live in Maharashtra and leaders here are puppet rulers of the central govt. They don't even criticize the centre for any injustice in Maharashtra. I live in Pune and though the city is heavily developed, other cities are not. East Maharashtra in particular is facing so many issues, it is worse than States like UP and Bihar and still the centre is not allocating money in MH cause it is not even well represented
If south india seperate from India, they will prosper like Singapore or europe
Nice joke lol
@@mathskafunda4383 you can't imagine the power of South.
I mean atleast South India is well represented by your leaders, whereas here in Maharashtra, there are puppet rulers of centre. For every 100₹ of tax paid, only 7₹ comes back to state which is lowest of every state. If it would have been a independent state(just for example), its GDP must have been net increase by 40-50%. I live in Pune and they took 7-8 years to just build 3 lines of metro as there were financial issues, whereas in North , heavy metro systems are getting built by the money of West and South.
North India: Lets break public property, dont care about economy, vote for one nation one religion one language and treat woman like maids and seek a labour job in south India for half rate,
Sout India: All Indians are my brothers and Sisters, pay tax, work hard, live a meaningful life, question government and choose better candidate
It's actually the other way around.
Also, gulf labour exporting Mallus shouldn't mock cheap labour🥺😂
They come here because employers want cheap labour.
Vannirikkunu thayyoli mavan.
You guys chose juicier mixer and sewing machine sellers
South Indians vote for ₹200
breaking public property ? LMFAO i remember the bangalore riots created by goons .
@@sagarshetty3175 thanks for being a rational south indian bro, you got my respect, damaging public property is a pan India thing but these south supermacists think this happens in north India only
The irony is that
South india acts as the reservoir for Indian economy, but when it comes to the selection of power(mp seats, selection of PM), Centre be like (irrespective of past and present)
"Bro, you aren't in the league!"
stop crying. our finance, foreign ministers are from south only. PM is from west.
As a lad from Bihar this is a really concerning issue we have corrupt government and rivals of the state government are rivals in corruption too
Lots of freebies that are based on caste rather than EWS peoples less job opportunities as companies don't open their branch in flood prone area hence things are very very steady it's no good, people too strives for better life but there is less opportunity
for my north Indian brothers.....please realize that stating the facts and statistics is not anti-india or wanting to rasie a conflict bettween north and south. At the end of the day we are one people.
Despite throwing money on bimaru States, there isn't any outcome which is bothersome. Good point sir.
States like uttarakhand,haryana and Punjab has way higher per capita income than many south indian states, only UP and Bihar are lagging. They both suffer from overpopulation and mismanagement.
Another advantage south has is access to sea port for trading, north india is landlocked and it's trading opportunities are limited. Many companies wants to set up their businesses in place where it is logistically easier and cheaper to make and transport goods.
Ps, this was the same reason why British opted for calcuta, Bombay and chennai as their capital
@@coldplayfan7357 yes i know even North east states are also developed like Assam.But uttarakhand does not have enough industries compared to uttar Pradesh and Bihar.And Punjab and Haryana,were earlier developed region even in Harappan period.But i have a doubt that northwest states have high per capita than south india.
@@coldplayfan7357 so what? Control population in UP & Bihar. Don't have kids for sometime. If you want adopt some children from the orphanage.
@@coldplayfan7357 huh? Which of these three states you mentioned have a population comparable to TN, KA and ANDHRA states?
Uttarkhand has population of 1CR, Punjab 3 CR, Haryana 3 CR. Ka has 7 CR and TN 8 CR AND ANDRA STATES 10 CR
@@krjg9809 UP also have way higher population than every single southern state, without any major resources or sea port and yet you are still comparing it with other states
Despite of differences, all southern states should come together and unite on this issue.
The concluding remark is something our government should really look into.
As a person from UP, i see no significant developments in my whole life. Why so? Why our brothers are to be penalized for us continuously. As a country,they should help but for how long. Why our government in up n Bihar don't do things for progress. Atleast now I m hearing that up is doing something for development. Let's see how that turn out
That's a very fair question and one that all of us in the north should take seriously to our thoughts , it's not always the government in macro sense there has to be a awakening/revolution among the common folks of north
Exactly, where is money going? Actually political leaders are eating, not the people
Brilliant question raised by PTR..Excellant discussion..Both participants are well known for fruitful talks
This concern is valid.
If the money spent for poor state does not create wealth, there is no point in spending.
Being from North India and core hindi belt,I completely concur with their views.
People talking about North and South India.... meanwhile Maharashtra and Gujrat crying in corner😂
it’s funny how everyone is like north india , when foreigners thinks of india , it’s mostly the north part but people don’t realise that south india is more developed infrastructure wise and economically compared to north india and all that the centre does is punish the south
I can see a lot of people migrating to other countries from South India, especially Kerala as I know it better as I reside here. Progress should go hand in hand, together, nobody should fall back.
By God's grace we will progress and live in harmony n peace in future.
kerela simply doesnt have industries and is over crowded
Kerala literally has more strikes than industries .....communism is responsible for unfriendly behaviour towards the industrialization
I'm just happy seeing this debate itself regardless of whom I support 😊 such debates are needed. It's progressive!
The states should receive atleast 60% of what they contribute.
states should buy 60% of the products they made in thier factories right ?? federalism can't be one way ticket right ??
@@riav.T But no one want to invest in Bihar or even UP because of communal tensions and Gunda raj.
@@riav.T No one is stopping other state from making factories. And as far as federalism is concerned, I am from UP but I am allowed to live & work in Telangana. They have made these massive IT sectors and allowing everyone to benefit from it.
Now if you want them to take away their earnings as well then that's unfair to them.
@@mdzaid5925
Telangana IT sector was founded & developed by Andhra CM.
@@pokemonitishere202 Yeah, I get to hear that dumb arguement from a lot of AP folks. Telangana was formed in 2014, so that's almost a decade. Tell me what are the achievements of AP government? Why couldn't they make a new IT corridor in AP? Or for any other sector? Funny thing is that, I see more AP folks in Hyderabad than the Telanganites and alot of them have this stupid obsession with their government. If it is so good, then today they would be in their own state and not Telangana.
Another fact, Telangana have come a long long way when compared to 2014, but AP is stuck at the same place.
He is absolutely right id the rich states are giving money then the poor states must develop......neither they are developing themselves and also the money is like being thrown under the bus....if development is there then with time they will need less money....I hope north Indian states like bihar and UP are listening this...even I am a North Indian myself...
Bihar is not a North Indian state, atleast get basics right
The politicians are again the problem here. They don't want Hindi heartland to develop. They want the vast Hindi heartland to remain uneducated and underprivileged to get easy votes and rule over them and gain power over rest of country as well using number game.
@Gigolo Gandhi map dekh gawar
@@jhonnypapa3059anything top of vindhya mountain is a North Indian state.
Federalism has been a mythical word in this country for a long time now, especially post 2014. There is an increased emphasis given to the 'progress' of the Northern states while the actual progress in reality has been from the Southern states. Happy to see the speakers addressing the 'Union' government and not the 'Central' government.
India need to be confederation
@@Jungle_boy123usa federalism
@@Jungle_boy123not going to solve anything,
India needs to be divided in atleast 20 countries
@@AbhinavChauhan-nc8hj is that possible if not then confederation is ok for some relief from north states up Bihar mp.
If south states don't unite and rulers are from north leaders without any vision neither on country nor on South...we will continue to suffer... atleast fair chance to be given to south leaders to become prime minister's...then this discrimination will not happen
Dumbo... Two important portfolios are occupied by South, FM Nirmala & EAM JaiShankar. It's a cover up discussion for the inefficient & corrupt rule.
@@ChidVanhi You Dumboo...it's known to everyone..in present govt...who takes all decisions....it's all by two gujjus...and all other Dumboos will follow simply.
@@ChidVanhi Dumbo, EAM is a Delhiite
Pv Narshimha Rao ex Pm of India , P chidambaram ex finance minister another Dmk guy who was telecom minister , check history southerners always had fair share of power . Democracy simply works by no bulk of India lives in North so yeah Noerthern guys have more chances to become pm , coming to vision why do you think all major industries are in either south or west north is agricultural hub of India , enginnering capabilities were always vested in south
@@saikiranrao194 True, but the issue discussed in this video is going to become serious in the future.
Northern agro states should diversify and try to become self reliant and Southern states should get at least 60-70 paise for every rupee of tax collected from them. The current situation creates more resentment among the public...
I am really impressed to see such good discussions happening at our political stage. I feel there should be actions and indepth analysis or transparency achieved to gain more knowledge about how the money that goes to bihar and UP is being used.
I hope the southern states should provide quality leaders in the coming 2024 elections.
Good points. Resources should be utilised properly. Those who earn, always have that feeling if their money not utilize for good. Take Our home as an example. 🙏
South India should honestly be a separate nation
But how it's possible??
It's time to change state allocated seats in the Lok sabha according to a state's revenue per capita. This cannot go on forever, especially by 2030.
Look at this guy 😂😂
Maybe only rich should be allowed to vote then. If you want to take the policy to it’s logical conclusion.
you want only rich people to vote then ?
How people can be dumb like you ?🤦
No representation no taxation
The fact that the literal progress is visible in all the south Indian states compared to North Indian states and yet the govt decides to be partial with south Indian states is absolutely bizzare
Glad this issue is being talk about.
Southern states have the GDP of Saudi Arabia and Singapore that explains a lot
yes we are taking care of Bihar and other poor states in turn all their people come and settle in south.
Bruh
We south indians should unite and fight for our independence
@@adithiarjun6764 yep stop being a burden on us ...becuz of people like u , outsiders consider india to be a black country ....but we r very fair , only southies r dark black 🐈⬛🤢
Maharashtra is bigger nd better than whole south india combined... that's tells the whole story
@@user-v2qdfg-v53e nd that is the only reason idli sambhars r developing faster than north Indians
Gladly we have the best south Indian leaders to voice this.
Central govt had illegally moved Education from State list to Concurrent List in 1976 emergency.
What's the reason
@@gigologandhi4566 Very Well put.
Current government no clue
@@ravananvenkatan6638 Oh they have more than clue, but they won't bring it back to state list. Won't serve their convenience.
This is such a depressing situation. Hoping the centre does not throw around money like this, its people's hard earned money that is being collected as tax. There is a degree of responsibility the Centre should be showing towards South states. Deeply saddened.
Yes the problem is not money going to other states.. but the using of the money..
Yes even with all that money sent to UP/Bihar etc, people from there are coming to Karnataka, TN etc for employment not just in IT field but every sector like hotels, retail, banks, hospitals, construction etc.
@@shruhi123 let them come india belongs to them not us😁
@@shruhi123 bro i think most of the money comes from Maharashtra
@@mayabhosale4685 yes a good chunk comes from MH too. But MH, GJ and Delhi also get back a major portion from center. While states like KA, TN which are the 2nd and 3rd contributors in terms of highest tax to center, they rank in the last few states that get back money from center. Not just that, the center also takes away industries and projects that have been going on for decades in KA and TN to places like UP sucking the life blood out of KA,TN. Yet these states still rank 2nd and 3rd in tax contribution. Check out the official figures that govt puts out..
@@shruhi123 no Maharashtra gets least portion of money than all south indian states and also gujrat and delhi.
The issue of revenue sharing among states isn't exactly a 'North India vs South India' debate. Rather, it is more of a poor-vs-rich issue .Data suggests that Maharashtra, Gujarat, Haryana and Tamil Nadu received less than Rs30 from the Centre-in the form of taxes devolved and other transfers-for every Rs100 they contributed to the Central exchequer in 2016-17. In contrast, states such as Bihar and Uttar Pradesh received around 200% and 150%, respectively of what they contributed.
@@gigologandhi4566Some of the politicians in the North also see people in South India as kneggers and low IQ. Which is pretty ironic considering their own behavior.
North needs education First
Then comes transformation and development automatically.
Periyar, Anna, kamarajar, MGR, MK, JJ
They don't have sufficient time for chewing gutka, Rajini gandha pan masala .. and you are talking about education 🤣🤣🤣
@@vishalneelam7278 In TN , we were addicted to religious dramas, movies , Pentecostal church until 1960s
Then a revolutionary leaders came
@@dayatec what religious dramas ?? ...
North Indian are busy in religious movie fightings 🤣🤣🤣 le ram mandir . In Kasi
When talk about religious dramas. First' place comes for. North India ... They don't have brain's only they have in skull 💀 gutka, Rajini gandha,pan masala .. BJP plan works on those states ... But South Indians are more than clever .. Britishers came to South and .. given knowledge for us ... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@vishalneelam7278 your ancestors and amma carried the hindu names because north had seen bloody battle with invaders and stopped right threre from further getting into deep south...come out from your typical arrogance infused southern colonial mindset.
I recently travelled to Delhi and hired an auto rickshaw while talking to the driver he said he is having three kids though being poor. This is ridiculous and lack of awareness. In South India especially in TN and Kerala you will rarely come across people having three kids.
You can as much as kids you want but how you feed them matters the most.
That was well said debate🙌🙌🙌... NICE one
It was the same when Congress was ruling as well. Kerala had Congress power houses (even a useless defence minister ) and still they did nothing for Kerala.
At least kerala has much better values in terms of human index and life standards than UP or gujarath...
@@timeisup6844 not just better than up and gj, kerala has the best public education amd health care system and no 1 rankin human development index .
Kerala is much better if we see the metrics
Unfortunately we have some bunch of idiots here in kerala who hate the state since it never gave bjp a chance to rule..
Its all about north indian hegemony.it doesnt matter bjp or congress.
Kerala always get neglect from delhi.
Bjp is much worse than congress by the way
Railway budget allocation for South India and North India speaks alot......
another geography fail. you want to flatten the western and eastern ghats is it ?
lol 😂 so according to you railways should run empty train on southern tracks 😂
Taking taxes from south and giving them to corrupt Bihar politicians and not even developing? We need to have a United voice at the centre and demand more resources be given to South, in this trajectory SOUTH INDIA IS ACTUALLY BEING DISCRIMINATED AND WILL END UP GETTING TREATED SIMILAR TO HOW BANGLADESH WAS TREATED BY PAKISTAN BEFORE THE SPLIT.
What a debate!!!! Happy and shocked at the same time to see two opposition party politicians having such meaningful debate.
As a south Indian Tamilian, I have faith in Yogi jee as CM of UP, he is seems revolutionary. Only if he cut down on the rhetoric and focus more on developing that state sooner rather than later, no doubt in 5 to 10 years south will start getting more of the share it deserves!
H😂 u are vere level bhakth
this debate was so sensible, love to our south indian brothers from haryana. I think UP has shown progress but bihar is a dead case maybe. nitish still weighing on caste bas census in bihar.
😂😂nitish😂
All Non Hindi speaking states should demand seperate statehood, Hindi people arrogsntly try to impose their language on the rest of India , I demand a seperate state for west Bengal too , its clear North Indians think the country belongs to themselves alome
Lol west Bengal is waste Bengal we don't even want that shit state
Lol west Bengal is waste Bengal we don't even want that shit state
@@Ankit-nf5lx we too dont want to remain with Useless Pradesh, sh*thar, or Dirty delhi, or any of those usless backword Broke ass states where people think cow urine cures cancer and people bathe in Gobar
@@antiracistbaby1085 super reply 🤗
Your west bengal will bankrupt without Indian union. So, stop writing stupid comments
Even the educated ones are pain to deal with. We live in cosmopolitan metro. There few families from certain states who always delay or miss payment of maintenance or other enhancement in apartment complex.
few families are poor so you will kick them out eh ?
@@sagarshetty3175 the families mentioned in my comment own a car and a two wheeler with kids going to fancy school. They're confident that there would be no repercussions.
There should be equal distribution of resources. Standing with my fellow Indians in South. However requesting to also push state governments to provide necessary assistance in providing pollution, environmental clearances. We need a strong India from north to south, east to west. Jai Hind.
For evey one rupee contributed by Karnataka... The state gets 13 paise... Not 48 paise...
@Prakash kumar Nobody is stopping Northern States from setting up industries...Infact union will be much more happier and subsidise ....if these states can contributing to the GDP..TN and Karnataka are proven when it comes to Exports and Manufacturing sector...
@@shayansheshashayan4083 Yes let's dissolve the freight equalisation policy and let TN and Karnataka pay full market rate to Bihar and Jharkhand for the minerals, then let's see how industries fare there
@@harshvishwakarma1890 If so much resources already available...!! Why do industries hesitate to setup there units close by resource... Why do they want to setup 1000 miles away...in AP/KA/TN... One must understand it's nothing against North Indian people... absolutely nothing... But the way ur politicians are misleading the countries youths(all parties), illiteracy..lack of rational thinking (including ur politicians)...there lies the problem...
@@shayansheshashayan4083 coal and steel are not the only things required for an industry. That's where the coastal states benefit while others do not because of access to sea. That's the reason South gets the manufacturing. And landlocked states get their minerals taken away at subsidised rates only to be called bimaru.
@@harshvishwakarma1890 Odisha/WB, Gujarat (albite one might consider it to be a developed...there are some issues)has enough ports...Now... Telangana is landlocked..yet able to attract many industries....
One of the best meaningful and insightful discussions seen in recent times. Just straight to the point. Their vision and vocabulary is lit. These people can manage anywhere and face any media. By the way, my take away from this discussion, learnt few new English words...))
Yeah ..
Tharoor is not only a good politician but a good author as well. He and Sobers Rodrigues are currently my two favorite authors from India.
If only congress would make him PM candidate.....
sobers ? LMFAO that chritian rice bag ?
Many politicians are good authors. Pandit Nehru, Atal Vajpayee, Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, Pranab Mukherjee and many others have made notable literary contributions.
@@oadka authors never make good leaders , you need someone who rules by a iron fist to handle power
@@sohambanerjee99 pandit Nehru ?? Really bro?
Just look at the TM finance leader which makes me proud as an indian. And when you look at UP and BIHAR makes me wonder how they able to acquire the post without any qualifications
Ka boli bachua 😂
@@Jungle_boy123Sab maay baap ki dain hai😂
Even Maharashtra would say same..but..they are developing major projects in Mumbai..having "big names"...while rest of Maharashtra is not worthy for there investment!!..
Maharashtra pay more taxes than any states in India...still there are lot of villages,cities..in Maharashtra where development is progressing slowly or not done at all..we still have some places where there are no roads..but during election.. election staff has to go there..!!!
Even same for education sector too...if you count...the number of Maharashtra students in Upsc is way lower than other candidates..but still there are facilities for them..!!.
And ...yes..we have politicians whos salary or whatever money they are getting is way more than other states too...
If these sort of partiality for North and South exists in no less than 10 years there will be formation of 2 different countries like Nort India and South India as people commonly say..
North needs to do something, kabh takk dharti pe bojh ban k rahoge? You can't keep getting free money for eternity
This is very serious issue, govt need to work on this asap else of north south divide voice will grow stronger.
North Indian should actively discuss the issues.
they discuss only hindu muslim 😂
This will be a big issue in long term like the Finance minister of TN said! But this will still be manageable but if UP and Bihar gets MPs according to current population then Southern states might loose their cool completely and that is putting mildly.
India needs to be confederation
Declare south as a country and see we could develope a country like Singapore.
1. South has major sea ports
2. Well developed hospitals
3. Educated society
4. No cow politics
5. Highly literated society
6. Better infrastructure
7. Most IT parks/Hubs
8. Highly skilled talents
9. Less nepotism
10. Better research and development
11. Lot of Industrial Areas
12. Less hate speaches and crimes
Enough for the GDP contribution.
Point no 1 is the major factor.. North Indian states do not have a port, hence it's difficult to set up and transport goods from the interior of the country but you will find a lot of workers from Northern India working there.. Bangalore was made the IT hub of the country back in the day which spilled over to Chennai and Hyderabad now.. it's like comparing California to Florida.. and when it comes to nepotism, south is the worst.. almost all parties are run by families...
@@ChatPOPPAT true
If you think South and North India can survive without each other, then you're dumb
@@ChatPOPPAT run by families till they are doveloe than north states.up mulayam singh.bihar lalu yadav.jammu abdulla family, himachala thakur north States also ruled by families many years
@@dia01 tho the statics ain't that large they think too high of themselves.... And about going to US or west , sorry sir but it is what every Indian hopes to infact it is desire for every citizen of developing ones including China or the ASEAN. the south gets immense cheap work force from those so called poor northern states.. It is just an irony that people have little sense of democracy ,in democracy poor states gets the beneficiary support from the rich states while the poor states drive the labour force the rich states to fill the need. Also Delhi, Haryana, Punjab have higher HDI than AP ...
People in South especially TN's have high superiority complex....
The southern continent of Asia ie Indian subcontinent is a place of high instability from terrorism, invasions ,separatism , colonialism to discrimination etc like prblms which led to the present poor situation of this region while the Eastern Asia ie China ,Japan like countries became more stable with US's involvement and strong,visionary autocratic rulers like Lee Kwan yew of Singapore, Mao ,Abe etc... While indian subcontinent remained under the curse of weak governance, terrorism, US's antagonist behaviour , uncontrolled socialistic views etc... Yet we're growin eventually will
60% of families in UP are agriculture dependent and 80% of families in Bihar. Jharkhand, Orissa and chattisgarh are the majority of coal and other minerals producer. Both farming and minning pay very little and thus the less contribution in taxes but someone has to do it or else we will die of hunger or suffer an energy crisis. The South, Maharashtra and Gujarat could not have seen a revolution that it is seeing today if they were to worry about food and energy.
We are a single country and we can only progress through mutual corporation.
I guess your logic is flawed. What they are talking about is development, in terms of infrastructure, hospitals, schools, population control awareness
Mate.. in agriculture and power generation.. Tamil Nadu is more than self sufficient.. see the data.. your logic is flawed ..
@@f1pro299 The comments in the discussion were from superiority complex and a sense of South is better than north and I shared my views on that. And are we forgetting that infrastructure , hospitals and schools need MONEY??
@@rakeshs7463 TN is far from self sufficient in agriculture and energy.
@@rishabh_mishra3 i don't understand where is the issue of superiority came,and also do you understand what they stated.Maharashtra is western states and not a southern state but still does not get enough budget allocation.Thats not the case of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh,they still get huge support.If you want to blame,then blame your corrupt leaders.And breadbasket of India is Punjab,haryana,Andhra Pradesh and Rajasthan.
United states of south India❤
they don't even conduct central exams in regional laungages and conduct only in hindi and they get unfair advantage and people who studied in region laungage don't even stand a chance against them.
The population of India as per the 1971 census was approx 500M and the number of seats in Loksabha at that time was 521. Now almost fifty years later, in 2023, the population is 1.4B (almost triple since 1971) and the number of seats in Lok sabha is 545(almost the same as in 1971). So now the question is, Was it a good idea to freeze the seats at that time? Right now the work of 1000 people is done by just 500 people. Now the second question, using the 1971 census to redistribute money in 2023 when the population is almost tripled would have been a good idea?
Yes I do agree the southern states should have been given incentives for controlling their population but closing your eyes and treating everyone the same as they were in the 1970s, who thinks was a good idea?
You keep increasing population, so it will be fair enough
If so, freeze the MP seats and increase MLA seats based on population and no state will get concerned.
@@karthikabhimanyu556 Population for any country has never been a problem. The very idea that increased Population is a problem is a flawed idea. Infact the Population is the most important resource of any country, the more resources you have the better. Think of it like Lithium or Oil Reserves, if you utilize it properly, you can become rich like Middle Eastern countries but if you can't utilize them properly or mess them up like some African countries then you'll become like those African nations.
Few decades ago China thought that the increased population is a problem so they took measures to control it and today they're in a situation where they're begging its people to have more babies and increase the population.
Only incompetent leaders or governments says or think that the increased Population is a problem and blame all their failures on it.
Let me give you an example, let's say there's a country with just one child and in the second country there are 10 children, now if you give both these countries, quality education, teach them how to generate employment and give them skills of self-employment, which country you think will earn more? The second country with 10 children will earn 10x more than the first country with 1 children.
But the problem with the governments here is they never focused on that kind of education, or skill set, most of the education system is focused on how to get employed, and that too in government jobs.
Even today, you can see it clearly with the trends in UPSC, even after studying in NITs or IITs, most of its graduates go for this exam. Now take that country's example again, this time instead of teaching those children how to self-employ, you teach them how to get employment in their own government, now the country will have to pay them, so now the country with 1 child will feel much less burdened than the country with 10 child. But if you look at it, was it the children fault or was it's government's fault to not utilize them properly.
Even the idea that big Population is a problem, is mostly in the socialist countries, where everything is owned by the government. Even in India this idea of reducing population got momentum when India was going through a strong wave of socialism under Mrs. Indra Gandhi, that time government was trying to own everything.
@@chandu25abc20 It has already been done. Infact northern states have very fewer representatives than Southern states. For example, The population of UP is almost 200M but the number of MLAs is just approx 400. So 1 UP MLA is representing almost 500T people. On the other than population of TN is approx 70M ( almost 3 times less than UP) but the MLA numbers are approx 200, so here 1 TN MLA is representing just 350T people.
@@abhi65628 so, increase the number of MLA’s again, no state will object to it.
Flawless discussion any Bhakt status here😢😢😢. Hope these gentlemen aren’t pak or anti Indians😅😅
DMK is literally sepoy british produce.
@@sagarshetty3175 bhakth spotted as usual without fact or content😂😂😂
@@metatamil8114 Tamilian Katwa Separatist spotted.
@@maisakurajima9194 up landhbhakt spotted they suck whole day government testicles
Admit it, the only solution is for an independent south India
I am from Maharashtra we receive 7 paise on 1 rupee.but we can't say.our state is close to ocean therefore industry is developed.Hard labour are from Bihar therefore it is used in industry.Raw materials are from chattisgarh.Bihar students work hard.IAS officer are from bihar.
Agreed. Valid points 👍
Two brilliant and educated politician now in India (This is south compared to North)
I'm a little reluctant about suggesting a federal and state wise income tax filing like you do in US. This puts more burden on the common man to file tax twice and get more money taxed from income (not to mention centre should agree to lowered income tax so that common man doesn't end up paying more tax). But unless the centre agrees to distribute taxes to individual states more fairly, only state wise tax filing would help. I think Southern states, politically, should push for fair allocation of taxes rather than one that's population based.
Even that is still going to negatively affect states which have lifted more people out of poverty. It would only be a solution for state governments to get enough money, however the people in these states will still be overwhelming pulling the wait of other states that doesn't have better paying jobs. The only way to right that wrong is to restrict funds based on the tax share. It's actually imperative now because these states are now becoming dependant on center and that's a threat to democracy, sovereignty of state governing bodies and federal system. When these states are so dependant on central funds they become voiceless and lose any standing to resist or object to any central government desicions, and will become nothing more than a union territory and state only in name.
Restricting their fund allocation by tax will also push them for responsible spending and development focus towards growth rather than sham slush projects.
@@aleenaprasannan2146 Republic has issues with Tamil Nadu because of the specific arrogance of 'muh federalism, muh confederation, muh Dravidam' that it's choking it to a point it ceases to be a threat.
The goal is absolute control by Delhi.
@@aleenaprasannan2146 I agree, though the way the India is governed, where everything is centralised, we pay taxes to central govt and GST too. This makes it hard for states to allocate funds or restrict tax paid to the government. So any changes would have to come through a central ordinance again! Unless the state government can intervene in some way, I think the only avenue available is Judiciary(Supreme court) not legislature( again central govt.)
@@indulgentquagmire
Judiciary don't have power to make laws. If they try , the central government has enough means to dismantle the whole judiciary.
As long as the SC don't interfere in central government functioning , they will be able to survive for long. People feel supreme court has the highest power, but incase central government and judiciary decided to fight till end , central government will win . And this has been told to me by supreme court advocate only 🤷
@@naiyayika it was delhi because of which tamil nadu is what it is , if delhi wanted it would have simply picked andhra or say odisha or bengal instead of tamil nadu , if delhi wouldnt had supported what local govt wanted to pursue then no local govt would have functioned , congress blessed south , why you think north east is still behind .
This would've been a great discussion, love to see this conversation completely
There is a full video.
Very fair analysis, and very crisp communication.