ABC15 speaks to attorney hired to defend Phoenix amid DOJ investigation
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- City officials are asking for “remedial recommendations” to be made. The department released a 53-page report Thursday outlining reforms already made.
Are you kidding me? This has to be a joke, right? Apparently "Investigating" themselves got them in this mess in the first place.
that's what Internal Affairs is, the police investigating themselves. that is not accountability or transparency. the system is broken.
And the funny part is, right now they are still violating peoples constitutional rights
One of my favorite quotes from an officer is “ we’re just doing our job!”
I really hope the DOJ says that to them
“We all make mistakes “. Oh ok. No biggy. Let’s just forget it then?
There was another group in the past that tried to use that as an excuse. Just can't put my finger on it...
that's basically what the nazis said at the Nuremburg tribunals..."we were just following orders".
Funny, every Nazi found guilty and hung at Nuremberg said the same thing.
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Imagine believing the city of Phoenix and the Phoenix police department can handle civil rights issues, if they had managed it to begin with, the DOJ wouldn't have needed to do an investigation into them
Or the doj is making a mountain of of a mole hill.
So a Judge might not understand civil rights but the Phoenix police do ????? I don't think so
trust the city are you kidding me? you cant police yourselves now
If cops are allowed to "investigate themselves", why aren't criminals allowed to "investigate themselves"?
They are, if they are cops.
Please deny the right to officers turning off and on their body cam . We need accountability and honesty. There is lying and cover ups to the highest degree
There should be penalties for them blocking the camera intentionally. They should not even have the ability to turn the camera off or to mute it. Until that's done the cameras are mostly there for show.
It’s sad when the city has to hired a lawyer to defend itself because their police officers are violating citizens rights.
SELF DEFENSE IS A HUMAN RIGHT...IT WILL BE USED!
And yet they tell the public that "ignorance of the law *is not an excuse"...*
And you gotta pay for it
"Trust the department that screwed up so badly that DOJ is investigating them" lol
It's not screw ups. It's criminal activity.
These thugs need oversight
Trust the city to reform itself 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Most law enforcement doesn’t have experience in law enforcement, and they definitely don’t have experience in civil rights, otherwise you wouldn’t have to defend them for their unacceptable behavior.
We have to have folks not scared to admit to wrongs and learn. better each officer and the department, and city. But having no over site? Come on we are still in the United States right? This should be more about protecting the citizens and training the police to protect and serve and less on the folks who are worried about getting in trouble. The city right now is showing the behaviorisms that we do not want or need in a city that wants better. No one cared for years. So lets stop looking like we are guilty and don't want help maybe go along with and maybe learn something from each other and have a better city a better state because of it?
law enforcement does have a lot of experience at VIOLATING the civil rights of the public though.
100%. Disgusted the city is trying wriggle out of it. Policing in America country badly needs serious reform
He doesn’t even hear the irony in what he said after all the evidence presented against Phoenix stating that they violated those very things.
The process to become a hairdresser is more intense and stringent than the one to become a cop. Their training is centered around making it home at night, not protection of the public. They need to add an additional 5-week course on constitutional rights and the LIMITS of their authority. Of course none of this would be possible without the help of the union and they routinely, inexplicably, rebuff true reform.
There is no defense for this city or it's police department
"Open to our suggestions"... Our suggestion is that the city submit to a consent degree and federal oversight...
the previous "full disclosure" documentary really brings this home; about how Phoenix PD and MCAO have proven they can't police themselves
This is coming from the people who say we have investigated ourselves and no wrongdoing has occurred yeah right they need oversight like no tomorrow that mean forever
Ok. Just give us the report, trust us to do the right thing. Been working good,as far as the City is concerned.
Thank you, dave ❤
Thank you, DoJ ❤
Is it a mistake when they egregiously and purposefully violate citizen’s rights or a crime?
So has anyone ever heard of a criminal defendant getting preliminary access to a criminal investigation to correct 'factual errors'? Why would Phoenix PD think it is above anyone else under investigation? Could it be they have it so engrained in them that the law simply doesn't apply to them? Is that the reason for the egregious conduct they find themselves being investigated for?
Because we all know how good they are investigating themselves.
I mean... if you consider that the entire purpose of their self-investigations is to clear themselves, then they're actually masters at it.
Trust them the city to reform itself lol
The PPD has been on a PR road show for the last month saying how good they are, and deflecting all allegations. They make mistakes, but they never learn to correct their mistakes. That's why so many people successfully sue them, and in total, cost the taxpayers MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR. The don't learn from their mistakes.
Seem PPD needs to attend some of their own AA classes. What we have here is referred to as a denial of responsibility. Denial is the first hurdle that has to be overcome in order to admit there is a problem to be fixed.
How can we, Phoenix Police Dept., trust DOJ findings?! cmon now. How can the public trust Phoenix PD to reform itself. This lawyer's rhetoric is horrible.
The people of Arizona need to file a class action law suit against the Police Union forcing the police department to payout law suits they're behavior cause, instead of innocent taxpayers paying for their crimes
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The police unions are a major impediment of justice and effectively an enemy of the public. It’s gotta be abolished or at least greatly curtailed
DOJ needs to investigate the Constitutional Sheriff's and Peace Officer organization here in Maricopa county. Apparently they're involved in the illegal access of cars and homes using high tech electronic equipment and having local residents to do it.
Turns out that lawsuits work. For as long as police keep acting as though they're above the law, citizens should keep suing them. Eventually qualified immunity will be done away with.
The city has paid MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars over the last decade
Imagine the level of corruption involved in hiring an attorney that would make such a suggestion.
Sir, the DOJ are just doing their jobs. If their job involves putting you under a consent decree, you should just comply.
To all auditors: Keep fighting the good fight! Until these public servants realize integrity and accountability are values not to be feared, you are needed! Thank you for your service!
It's been fun
Trust the city to reform itself? That's how we got here in the first place.
Oh no the police and DOJ might not have a great relationship oh im so sorry forget the investigation then
Being a lawyer your case shouldn't be “we all make mistakes”
Intentionally lieing isnt a mistake. Its a delibarate deed.
LOL. Cops policing themselves. Have we not learned this already .Giving the inmates keys to the jail.
If the Police had civil rights experience they wouldn’t need a consent decree, but clearly they don’t know jack about civil rights and therefore need oversight
Maybe get rid of the corrupt officers and then the DOJ wouldn’t be all over you…
You have to dismantle the whole department in order to do that lol
Phoenix PD needs a new police chief with some integrity and respect for the constitutional rights of the public, and he needs to be thoroughly vetted by the DOJ before being allowed to take office.
If they have nothing to hide they shouldn’t have a problem with it, that’s what they say, right?
I call bs he worked there he knows better.
What is it the police say? Oh if you just do what your told. Bwhahahaa.
If the city really wanted to show they can change they'd fire every one of those cops.
IT'S NOT LIKE THE DEPARTMENT DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE OFFICERS WERE VIOLATING THE RIGHTS OF IT'S CITIZENS.
I watch all of your videos with Dave - he is a great investigative journalist! It's a treat to get a laugh out of this video.
Another great piece of real journalism!
Screw-ups don’t usually get to have a say in the means used to get them un-screwed.
Investigate Mesa!
Mesa PD is the worst, disappointed that DOJ overlooked them.
How much is all this costing the citizens of phoenix, especially hiring this lawyer .
"Everyone makes mistakes, how can we trust them when they make mistakes?"
Not a fan of the DOJ but Phoenix needs a top end housecleaning. As the department exists, they'll never clean themselves up.
HOW CAN WE TRUST THE PHOENIX POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THE BIGGEST QUESTION!
PPD want to continue to investigate itself when complaints are filed which usually results in "We investigated ourselves & found no wrong doing" even though the department is guilty. They dont want DOJ overseeing any complaints or investigations
Went to Phoenix once and cannot imagine any good reason to ever return.
‘Trust the city to reform itself’ 😂😂😂😂😂
"How can we trust them" says the guy representing cops who literally formed a fake gang and then arrested people for belonging to it.
Dude the one who no one trusts right now is you. You have to earn everyones trust
1:16. That was good for a laugh. If the city was capable and willing to reform, it would have already reformed. The DOJ decent decree is what they need.
If the city hadn't turned a blind eye, allowing these civil rights violations to go on as they have... There wouldnt be a Need for oversight. ZERO-TOLERANCE for civilians' civil rights being violated
Love Biscobing's follow up. "You want to get a look at the DOJ report because you're concerned about mistakes. Here are some very basic factual errors in your own report which might show why the DOJ doesn't want you litigating the facts ahead of its release."
This is public relations nonsense. They've known the consent decree is coming, and they're trying to get out ahead of it.
Teaching your cops the simple facts about the constitution and how it applies to the people is tantamount to having police who don't violate it. They swear an oath to it.
If the department could fix it why haven't they? Imo it's because they don't want to. All government agencies should have independent oversight.
especially the police and sheriffs.
"We think there has got to be a better way."
There is. Obey the rules in the first place, and this wouldn't happen.
Yeah POLICE THEMSELVES...that ALWAYS works doesn't it...
Since when do we let the inmates run the jail..............................
Policing for profit. It's racketeering with a badge. And there is always a big supply of scabby-kneed ambulance chasers ready to slither in to defend them.
This is the worst department in America, and needs to be investigated, over due for one
Reel in the bad cop's
On one hand he wants to stop what he used to advocate for & enforce (ironic no?). Additionally, he wants the status quo: We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing approach for Phoenix rather than oversight (experienced or not) is better than continuing with pathetic leadership.
Errors in civil rights? Since when did the Phoenix police dept give a rats hind end about civil rights.
that means rats ass.
What a joke
And what they make are not mistakes. They do them on purpose.
You are dreaming the DOJ is going to make you pay tell every cop to retain a lawyer
Don’t give Phoenix an inch! They are the worst department in the entire United States!!
They need to pay and be reformed desperately
Phoenix PD is bad, don't get me wrong. But the worst PD in the U.S. is Mesa PD...they are much much worse than Phoenix PD.
MESA EQUALS PHOENIX IN TREASON AND DOMESTIC TERRORISM!
If you all would cease in your bs then the doj wouldnt be an issue.
Fish rots from the head.
Phoenix PD reforming itself . Best joke I have heard today . FTP and all of their bootlickers .
How do you defend correctly
Phoenix NEEDS a consent decree. They will never clean their own house. Gross
If any of phoenix top 5 officers are still in positions of any power...than they have corrected nothing..just the chief stepping away does nothing
Phoenix is asinine
Dont let these clowns cloud the Issues. This belongs in a court of law. No Agreement of Any Kind and stop pandering to DOJ with these reports of Good Behavior. 😢😢
THEY NEED TO GO TO TUCSON NEXT
Tucson PD and Pima County Sheriffs are also very bad.
It’s hard to win back the trust,once it’s lost. Lucky for a second chance. Take what you are offered,like the people you arrest.
That’s like having a fox watch chicken coop😅
Please don’t expose our tyranny!
Begging DOJ to have Mercy and take note of our
Good Behavior is wrong headed and showing weakness. Stop Kissing DOJ Butt.😂😂
Dont trust them
Bahahaha! Yeah just give us the report and trust that we’ll do things right from now on. The audacity is unbelievable.
So let me get this straight...
Police department and district attorneys blatantly violate constitutional rights multiple times (for which the lead district attorney was fired and disbarred for at least two years, but still denies any wrongdoing), the federal government comes in to audit the department and provide oversight moving forward, and the police and city want the federal government to just give suggestions how they can improve, but leave it in the local authorities' hands?
How about the police catch actual criminals, but give them suggestions how they should act lawfully, then send them on their way to enforce their own reforms without oversight?
Let's see how they feel about their suggestion to the DOJ in that light.
They didn't hire a reputable attorney.. they hired a comedian. I'm almost impressed he keeps a straight face while spewing that bullshit.
I'm pretty sure the public, as individuals and as a community have given the police suggestions how to do their job correctly and ethically in the past. We've seen how poorly that went, which brought us here.
Welcoming suggestions that will mainly be ignore
I think it's just funny that the dog is probably not releasing the report because they want the Phoenix Police department to keep taddling on themselves
It is best to keep oversight and control out of the police department and city governments hands because they obviously can't do it themselves. That is why this has happened in the first place.
😂 trust the city 😂 bahahahaha
The better way is too strip them of qualified immunity...
F.T.P
How can you trust the pd
To all cops: As long as you fear integrity and accountability, you are NOT the good guys! Properly educate yourselves. Abolish qualified immunity! Make each officer personally liable. You want your respect back? THEN EARN OUR TRUST BACK! It's BS like this that proves why NONE OF YOU DESERVE ANYTHING!
To be clear, this is not an insult. This is a challenge to all "good" cops to change the WHOLE CORRUPT SYSTEM! PROVE YOURSELVES WORTHY OF THE BADGE AND STOP THE INSANITY!
The better way is to create a civilian review board that has the teeth to fix things. Give the power to the local people to decide how they want to be policed. The city won’t fix their own corruption and proved to us that they are incapable of regulating themselves.
Why not ask your employers the taxpayers? See if they’re willing to let phoenix PD to police themselves and not have a independent opinion about their actions.
How dare they make us be held accountable 😥😢 what a joke. Trust us we’re the law !
They ,obliviously,don't have any competent lawyers working for the city. Otherwise, they wouldn't be in this position, and hire this lawyer.Self-Own.🤔🤔🤔😡😡😡