You're a brave man going head first down that manhole, I use a small gardening trowel fixed onto a 6 foot piece of broomstick to gradually dig out the crap in the trap if the plunger wont shift it. It does get a bit fiddly sometimes but at least I can stay upright and out side the manhole. ATB from J and H Builders
Reminds me of the time I went headfirst into our septic tank to clear a block. The topside was muddy and I couldn't get a grip to push myself out. If not for our postman, I'd still be there now.
I'd far rather trust my set of 30 year old blue rods than anything with "Silverline" emblazoned on it. If you only turn the rods clockwise when in use, there is no way that they will come undone- it's impossible. As a waste water treatment works/sewage pumping station engineer, I have cleared several blockages.
i have had issues with silverline stuff in past, although the company did replace , it was still poor quality .... also looked at the reviews on amazon, i have the old style purcased in 1980's and used a few times i did try to find some sort of locking versions , long before the internet - duck tape sounds a good idea - i always twist clockwise - so good to know
Everything I've ever bought from silverline has been a complete waste of time & money. It's just the cheapest possible nonsense from the far east with silverline written on it. It's just landfill. Save yourself time & money & invest in quality branded tools you can trust. Remember, if you buy chep, you buy twice.
A drop scraper would have likely been useful to clear the u bend. Also would recommend getting gloves that go right up to your arm pit. Usually called long rubber gloves. Another tip for clearing a blockage is fully fill a wheelie bin with water and tip it in one down the man hole, you will need at least 2 people, the more the better as it weighs A LOT, the force of so much water hitting a blockage will usually clear it. Just make sure you line the bin up properly or it will all miss the manhole. Once it starts tipping you wont stop it 👍
I still have my trusty set of screw-thread rods. I think the main problem with people losing them in drains is that DIYers don't know you're supposed to keep twisting the rods clockwise as you push them. I know what you mean though, I've found a few in drains and at the bottom of soil stacks over the years. They're normally pretty rank after being down there a while. 😁
Best i saw with the screw ones, guy used em to sweep a chimney, obviously turning right, right, right as you go up. Then went left, left down, rods came down but the brush was stook up the chimney lol 😂.
We're the last house in the a series of houses which feed into the sewer. Every 12 - 15 months we get a blockage (the giveaway is the downstairs toilet having... issues) and out I go with the rods to do the unblocking. This past xmas the blockage happened, and off I went to discover three, er fatbergs of 'disposable' wet wipes. It took over two evenings to move the stuff. Needless to say, I went to the neighbours and indicated the fun I'd had, of course everyone said theyd never flush their wet wipes... So far, no repetition, obviously I've now put the mockers on myself :/
0:50 lol has an unused full set of screwable rods in the shed I ended up not needed last time the drained blocked up. Doh. Oh that looked like fun there at the end,,, lol
I only did it because i knew there would be loads of comments if I didn't. Given that the comments help the algorithm i wish I hadn't bothered. It only takes a couple of weeks for the smell to go.
Hi roger, would the water companies vaccum the average drains . I have new build i have a man hole a 3 drains....anyone know if they can Vacuum the drain ?
If it is a shared drain and has been adopted as a sewer they will jet it out but they may end up sucking it out. If it is your drain they won't want to know.
8ve had luck with an old paint bucket, garden hose fittings and a shop vac before Roger. It's a bit of hassle to make up a vacuum interceptor but costs next to nothing and 15 minutes, it's better for the sqeemish and can be used on other things.
I have been racking my little brain trying to think of a way of doing it. I will get on the case with that one and we can split the royalties. Thanks for the tip
A dustbin full of water gets most things moving again, but probably not wedged masonry or cast iron soil pipe shrapnel... Bailey locking rods are the biz if you need a bit more flexibility.
If you look at the digram you will see that the top liine is a rodding by-pass. It should have a plug but it is rare to see them. The trap is to stop smells and rats. They are no longer used because everyone loves having rats in their homes.
Does anyone have any advice on how to extract a non locking drain rod stuck in a drain? Its in the horizontal part no more than 4 feet in. It has the 'toilet brush' attachment on it
@@SkillBuilder cheers. this made me think of making a gadget for the end that lays down when you push it in and then pull on a cord and a hinged bit stands up behind the stuck brush. A bit 'ship in a bottle' method. I was previously thinking of how to add a small camera on the rod to try to screw in another rod into the end (daft idea)
@@utubeapea half moon scraper does exactly what you want, widely available, called a drop scraper. Push forward the flap folds up, pull back and it locks the flap in place 👍
I had several up my arse with a camera on the end,my drain engineer saved me a fortune to see if I had polyps. The rods are not that flexible,now my stools are one meter long and straight.
Interesting that Roger spends the start of the video extolling the virtues of locking rods and then gives an affilliate link to rods which are the old screw together non-locking version!
That outlet is called a Buchan trap. The hole at the top is missing a clay or cast iron plug . Long gone . Stopped sewer gases rising through the sustem
:) glad someone likes it. The issue turned out to be a 6" block someone backfilled edge on, on top of the pipe... Still it made it 45ish years before being replaced.
Damn Monkey at 3:22, do I win a prize? Look at the window behind and to the left, compare to 0:48. Not the first video this has happened lets be clear.
Don't throw your old screw rods away, just learn how to use them properly. Invest your money in a full face visor or at least a pair of safety goggles/glasses to avoid the splash back Roger demonstrates. Oh, and a peg for your nose.
That's a dirty job and i've done a few dirty jobs in my past. I would not want my clothes anywhere near that water, let alone my head. Fearless Roger to the rescue!
I always thought that even if I was unfortunate enough to catch a glance of my newly born little brown boys in the pan as I wiped it would be the last I saw of them. It seems life isn’t that simple.
Thank you roger for pointing out a good set of rods the amount of the lost ones I’ve found in drains can be a nightmare to retrieve!!!
Don't buy silverline drain rods, they're cheap crap. I've heard of the metal ferrules coming off cheap rods whilst down the drain.
You're a brave man going head first down that manhole, I use a small gardening trowel fixed onto a 6 foot piece of broomstick to gradually dig out the crap in the trap if the plunger wont shift it. It does get a bit fiddly sometimes but at least I can stay upright and out side the manhole. ATB from J and H Builders
the voice of sanity!
Brave or stupid.
@@SkillBuilder
Stupid....... sorry. Good info though! Thanks.
Reminds me of the time I went headfirst into our septic tank to clear a block. The topside was muddy and I couldn't get a grip to push myself out. If not for our postman, I'd still be there now.
@@Simonsimon-fy3hqthese days, whoever found you would have taken a selfie, uploaded it to Instagram, before walking away.
Coffee / tea for you; you deserve it! :)
Thank you very much. I did the job for nothing so I could make the video so it all helps.
I'd far rather trust my set of 30 year old blue rods than anything with "Silverline" emblazoned on it. If you only turn the rods clockwise when in use, there is no way that they will come undone- it's impossible. As a waste water treatment works/sewage pumping station engineer, I have cleared several blockages.
i agree, just dont give the job to an apprentice.. or modern equivalent...
yes I know that turning the clockwise it the way forward but so many get lost that I am now a fan of the lockable option.
Yawn
i have had issues with silverline stuff in past, although the company did replace , it was still poor quality .... also looked at the reviews on amazon, i have the old style purcased in 1980's and used a few times i did try to find some sort of locking versions , long before the internet - duck tape sounds a good idea - i always twist clockwise - so good to know
Everything I've ever bought from silverline has been a complete waste of time & money. It's just the cheapest possible nonsense from the far east with silverline written on it. It's just landfill. Save yourself time & money & invest in quality branded tools you can trust. Remember, if you buy chep, you buy twice.
Great job Roger! Not for the faint hearted that's for sure. 😀
Great job Roger!
When I rod drains and finally get the poo, etc., to suddenly “go” I always shout “Thar she blows Capn”! (From the old film Moby Dick)
A drop scraper would have likely been useful to clear the u bend. Also would recommend getting gloves that go right up to your arm pit. Usually called long rubber gloves. Another tip for clearing a blockage is fully fill a wheelie bin with water and tip it in one down the man hole, you will need at least 2 people, the more the better as it weighs A LOT, the force of so much water hitting a blockage will usually clear it. Just make sure you line the bin up properly or it will all miss the manhole. Once it starts tipping you wont stop it 👍
Good on you Roger getting in there and gett8ng your hands dirty!
I still have my trusty set of screw-thread rods. I think the main problem with people losing them in drains is that DIYers don't know you're supposed to keep twisting the rods clockwise as you push them. I know what you mean though, I've found a few in drains and at the bottom of soil stacks over the years. They're normally pretty rank after being down there a while. 😁
Brilliant job!! Admire your dedication here!!❤👍
Cheers for the video Rod-ger 👍
Thanks Roger perfect timing for this post. Ordering rods now ;-)
Certain times you can use a wet vac to clean out the interceptor trap
Said the same before I saw your comment👍
Best i saw with the screw ones, guy used em to sweep a chimney, obviously turning right, right, right as you go up. Then went left, left down, rods came down but the brush was stook up the chimney lol 😂.
As a DIYer, my main problem with my old screw type rods is getting the damn things unscrewed once I’ve finished with them. Go tight as hell.
We're the last house in the a series of houses which feed into the sewer.
Every 12 - 15 months we get a blockage (the giveaway is the downstairs toilet having... issues) and out I go with the rods to do the unblocking.
This past xmas the blockage happened, and off I went to discover three, er fatbergs of 'disposable' wet wipes. It took over two evenings to move the stuff. Needless to say, I went to the neighbours and indicated the fun I'd had, of course everyone said theyd never flush their wet wipes...
So far, no repetition, obviously I've now put the mockers on myself :/
Always turn clockwise when rodding drains. They never unscrew.
yes that is true but I am talking to DIYErs not clever people like you.
0:50 lol has an unused full set of screwable rods in the shed I ended up not needed last time the drained blocked up. Doh. Oh that looked like fun there at the end,,, lol
Top tip, never rod drains with your mouth open! 😂😂
How do know?🤔
When I use the old screw rods I tend to put a price of duck tape round the join,to stop it coming loose😊
Thanks Roger.
Hi Roger on my scew rods I use duck tape on the joints
I use a water vac to clear the bend of the rubbish.
Is it me or the link in the description points to rods with the normal screw?
Didn't you say not to use those ones?
No it's not you, the link points to the non lockable ones
@@SabretoothBarnacle Just changed it thanks.
@@SabretoothBarnacle www.amazon.co.uk/Silverline-278373-920-Lockrod-Drain/dp/B0161AEHTC?th=1
Glad u put yah gloves on eventually bizby
I only did it because i knew there would be loads of comments if I didn't. Given that the comments help the algorithm i wish I hadn't bothered. It only takes a couple of weeks for the smell to go.
Hi roger, would the water companies vaccum the average drains . I have new build i have a man hole a 3 drains....anyone know if they can Vacuum the drain ?
If it is a shared drain and has been adopted as a sewer they will jet it out but they may end up sucking it out. If it is your drain they won't want to know.
Braver man than me roger,thatd have been blocked with sick aswell if i did It 🤣
8ve had luck with an old paint bucket, garden hose fittings and a shop vac before Roger. It's a bit of hassle to make up a vacuum interceptor but costs next to nothing and 15 minutes, it's better for the sqeemish and can be used on other things.
I have been racking my little brain trying to think of a way of doing it. I will get on the case with that one and we can split the royalties. Thanks for the tip
@@SkillBuilder I can't paint very fast Rog if we're flogging 'em, lol.
A dustbin full of water gets most things moving again, but probably not wedged masonry or cast iron soil pipe shrapnel...
Bailey locking rods are the biz if you need a bit more flexibility.
How do I tell the difference between sewer drain and rain water drain? Do I just use my nose? 😬
What is the point of having the u-bend if the pipe above it also goes the same way? Never understood the reason for that.
If you look at the digram you will see that the top liine is a rodding by-pass. It should have a plug but it is rare to see them. The trap is to stop smells and rats. They are no longer used because everyone loves having rats in their homes.
@@SkillBuilder Thanks Roger, that makes sense there should be a plug. 👍
Does anyone have any advice on how to extract a non locking drain rod stuck in a drain? Its in the horizontal part no more than 4 feet in. It has the 'toilet brush' attachment on it
I use the worm eye or the scraper to pull it back out. You have to go past it then pull back
@@SkillBuilder cheers. this made me think of making a gadget for the end that lays down when you push it in and then pull on a cord and a hinged bit stands up behind the stuck brush.
A bit 'ship in a bottle' method.
I was previously thinking of how to add a small camera on the rod to try to screw in another rod into the end (daft idea)
@@utubeapea half moon scraper does exactly what you want, widely available, called a drop scraper. Push forward the flap folds up, pull back and it locks the flap in place 👍
I had several up my arse with a camera on the end,my drain engineer saved me a fortune to see if I had polyps.
The rods are not that flexible,now my stools are one meter long and straight.
Interesting that Roger spends the start of the video extolling the virtues of locking rods and then gives an affilliate link to rods which are the old screw together non-locking version!
That was a mistake which we have now rectified. Several people pointed it out so thanks for the notice.
That outlet is called a Buchan trap. The hole at the top is missing a clay or cast iron plug . Long gone . Stopped sewer gases rising through the sustem
Those clay plugs are always missing, somebody must have them stockpiled. They also stop rats
Nice!
I put a wrap of duct tape on mine when putting them down the manhole
Brings back bad memories of discovering we had collapsed pitch fibre pipe having to rod it every day while hand digging the 16 meter run out...
Pitch fibre has made me quite a lot of money. The rats love it
:) glad someone likes it. The issue turned out to be a 6" block someone backfilled edge on, on top of the pipe... Still it made it 45ish years before being replaced.
Last one of these i cleared was blocked by solidified washing machine powder.
Yes that is amazing it goes like rock
Damn Monkey at 3:22, do I win a prize?
Look at the window behind and to the left, compare to 0:48. Not the first video this has happened lets be clear.
Bumping in case I'm going mad or this is an in joke?
Don't throw your old screw rods away, just learn how to use them properly. Invest your money in a full face visor or at least a pair of safety goggles/glasses to avoid the splash back Roger demonstrates. Oh, and a peg for your nose.
More than a bit of silt. Ridiculous how some trades think its ok ill throw it down the drain. Remember people only the three p,s down the drain.
I think somebody smashed out a cast iron soil stack at some point and a chunk went down the drain.
I watched a Poonami advert to get here 😂
Don't see too many Winser traps now.
It depends where you work. They stopped using them in the 1930's but I work on a lot of older homes and they are a constant source of joy.
@@SkillBuilder Do you still find them with the covers?
No thanks not for me Let’s be honest or rather just pay someone
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That's a dirty job and i've done a few dirty jobs in my past. I would not want my clothes anywhere near that water, let alone my head.
Fearless Roger to the rescue!
The worst thing is if you put your hand deep into a drain and then someone grabs it.
A pair of gloves is a very useful accessory
👏👏👏
I always thought that even if I was unfortunate enough to catch a glance of my newly born little brown boys in the pan as I wiped it would be the last I saw of them. It seems life isn’t that simple.
Wonderful a bit of drain cleaning to keep me going until www.youtube.com/@DrainCleaningAUSTRALIA drops on the weekend. 😋
Those traps are absolutely useless, they do nothing but block up, in the york area they are taking them out, ours was done last year
Yes I have removed a couple, it is tricky but it solves the problem. All the debris ends up in the sewer.
Roger, that's a gas risk. Be careful.
It isn't a gas risk. The drains are well ventilated but I take your point and would advise anyone to stay above ground
@SkillBuilder Fair do. I only mention it as a colleague of mine died in a chamber several years back.
The trouble is Rog, you only have 4" pipes and someone has a 5" arse!
Some lad.
You need a wet-vac.
I have one but it would not suck all that bricks and cast iron.
You must be joking . You'd need a industrial vacuum ( utility Companies )
Not sure how much they charge
Rog: the drain rods link is for the old school screw type.
Oh! thanks for letting us know I will get it changed.