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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2022
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I test a standard golf grip thickness against a midsize grip thickness to see how thickness can affect golf ball flight and shot direction. The results are interesting and can make a huge difference to hitting more fairways and greens.
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Changed to mcc+4 midsize last year since I'm getting older and I feel like I have to grip much harder to get contact on regular grips. I do love the +4 that are wider all the way. Makes it easier to grip down when needed.
I have small/medium sized hands but changed to midsize grips about 3 years ago. I find I don't grip the club as tight as I used to and therefore a more relaxed swing. My accuracy has improved quite significantly.
I tried these on my woods and hybrids and had the best driving rounds of my life. Irons and wedges have now been re-gripped as well
Hi Michael, very interesting video, I have small to medium hand size but have been using an oversized grip on my driver for about a year now and has improved my driver massively. Great work.
I have just changed to midsized from standard after 20 odd years of playing and wish I'd of done it when I first started playing. I have a less draw flight movement which is my natural shape, no snap hooks which made me try the change, more feel in my short game and a more consistent shot length throughout the bag. My hands are 8 inches long and 9.5 inches in circumference 👍🏼 I have also upped the thickness of my putter too. That's improved slightly too.
Changed into midsize about 15 years ago definitely feels better. Did the hand gripping the club also, standard size is similar which shows Finger tips overlapping.
Just switched to jumbo golf pride grips this season, as well as an interlocked grip. The biggest thing I notice, especially with hitting on mats is how many more balls I can hit without fatigue. Would love to try some jumbo max grips.
Has midsize grips put on my clubs when I got fitted. Should have done that years ago. Feels very good, and I actually relaxe more in my grip since.
Another factor in comfort is relief from hand pain. As an older golfer developing joint pain a larger, softer grip may help. I use both the CPX midsize and the Pure DTX midsize.
When I started playing 30+ years ago, I bought a used driver that had an over sized half cord Golf Pride Victory grip. My drives improved, but I was going through gloves like crazy and bandaids for my two fingers on my right hand. I quit playing due to life but am now returning to the game after many years. I’m on the fence about just re-gripping my old starter set or buying a new one. Your video has me wondering now about which grips to get for either set.
You’ve got a stunning, super fluid driver swing bud. You can always tell when someone has a pro swing, it looks fluid, almost slow-like but the finish is balanced and the ball speed is 150 plus
Great video highlighting something so simple 👍🏾
Longtime CP2 Jumbo w/3 wraps. Yes, I play w/o glove in large part due to unavailability of large enough glove. XXL is too small, I cannot bent fingers, especially thumb. I recently switched to that CPX, same Jumbo w/3 wraps. Fantastic grip, just slightly firmer than CP2 allowing better feel & feedback but the new texture maintains same level grip w/o increasing grip pressure.
A medium large cadet glove fits me perfectly I have a little arthritis being I am over 70 I find that the golf pride MCC align plus 4 a with three wraps is excellent that grip although not soft hangs on to your hand very well so that you do not need to use a lot of grip pressure although I need to be sure I get that phase squared otherwise the ball tends to leak right
I do my own grips and find standard with 2 tapes just perfect....midsized for me just a tad to big im very much a player who manipulates shot shape with my hands and found the midsized stopped my hands working aswell.
Literally played my first round today w/an oversized grip on my driver. I'd started hitting the occasional SURPRISE!hook as I recently changing my AOA. Older golfers like me were taught to hit down but with 30 extra yards out there... Anyways, I laced it all day long with the miss being a 10 yard fade. Some say a bigger grip is a bandaid for a swing flaw. Those ppl can keep working on their swings while keep hitting bombs. 😂
i ordered grips from amazon and they sent me mid size by mistake...i decided to go with them and they have changed my game for the better! I also have tiny man hands and i still get better results
Awesome vid I'm hitting the shop tom to get midsize grips on my irons
Changed to midsize grips (plus 4 layers of tape) years ago to help reduce hand and wrist pain, it fixed it first round 👍
As far as feel is concerned hard to tell them apart because they are 2 different types of grips. But I have done midsize grips before and noticed that my shots were being pushed a bit more
I regripped all my clubs with midsize grips and I love them.
Hey Michael. Grip thickness is huge. My hands measure on charts to need a standard grip or maybe a tad smaller. But,,,,,when I grip the club with midsize those two fingers that you want to be lightly touching your palm are doing just that. So the charts are actually wrong. Bet thats messed up many a golfer. The mid size is not only more comfortable but yield better results by far. Golfers are definitely not all the same :) . I put on the Golf Pride CP2 wrap grips in mid size. Love em. !!! They seem to help my hands turn over just the right amount perhaps. Sad thing is many golfers never think about grip size and the right size can definitely make you more consistent as it has with me. Best wishes from Manchester, Connecticut.
I started ordering and receiving some irins with midsize grips. I am glad I went midsize, they fit my hand better.
I've moved my driver and wedges to the jumbo cpx. What a difference. Find it so much easier to hit both. But didn't move my irons or hybrids over as didn't like them on them. Strange
I went midsized with 3 wraps underneath game changer!
Standard all day on irons .More feel and control in relation where the clubface is to the path of the ball. Driver and woods could go either way , a lil thicker helps u to not turn over
I’ve added a Jumbo small grip to my driver , game changer .
I have the CPX oversized grips…
They feel amazing
Thanks, great video but I wish you had tried 3 of the same driver heads and shafts and 3 IDENTICAL grips, standard, midsize and jumbo!!!
Testing out the Jumbomax ultralight str8 grips in XS (I wear med-Lrg glove).
Put them on Driver, 8i, & LW. Love the control & consistency I get on the LW and 8i.
Driver I’m still testing.
Takes some getting used to but feels really good and natural once you do. Most likely will change out all my irons and wedges.
Material type makes a difference as well. Played MCC4+ midsize last year but felt rough and slippery. Changed to DriTac and HUGE difference, love em.
Too bad dritac only last half a season
@@Sheisintomalakasdino Agreed. Went to CP2, nice balance in texture and not so squishy
Soft and tacky…😊
Eventually I will make it home and order my clubs. I tested them all, all the shafts, etc. For me, going with a mixred Srixon set with recoil 94g F3. Felt great everywhere. Last thing to decide is grip size. Always been standars, but always frlt it was a touch small, sometimes a space between palm and grip through the swing. My friend has some p790's (amazing) with midsize grips. Love the feel. I wear a large glove, I think I am going midsize. Can't wait. Just wanted some thoughts and this channel has an excellent viewership and that's to your credit.
Any thoughts anyone??
Grip weight will also make a difference as heavier grip will effectively counterbalance the club…..I learn’t with a putter when changed the grip on my Del Mar from the Stock to the scotty pistol grip, the heavier grip trew out the balance of the putter; less feel in the head. Added some 20g weights and problem solved. Expect a thicker and heavier grip will have the same affect on ability to feel the club head.
I have played with standard size with 1 full paper and a second paper on the bottoms hand for over 20 years. I have had 2 sets in the last 4 years with MCC 4+ and simply struggled and have moved back to my 20 years setup……I found it difficult to release properly with midsize. Clearly everyone is different just a matter of finding what works for the individual.
Would have loved to see Jumbo included as well, but I can understand that standard + midsize covers ~90% of players
Jumbomax Zen Lite Large here, love them
Good info :)
It would have been more interesting to see you try a max size grip as well on the other side of the spectrum. Maybe a test for the future.
I'm using lamkin UTX mid size grip. It feels good but I think you have to have stronger forearm.
I have large hands and have played with both midsize and standard in competition and have noticed that the standard grips provide much more workability and feel.. that being said a midsize can be effective for taking one side out of play by having less hand rotation and release.. I ended up taking all my midsize grips off and went back to standard
Hi Skyler...I have larger hands (wear large size golf glove) and I am thinking about midsize grips but grew up with standard size club grips so that is what I am use to as far as feel. I found your comment interesting but not surprising about having more workability and feel with the standard size grip (I assume because you find it easier to release your hands through impact?) I have two questions for you when you get a second
1. Have you tried two layers of tape on only the top half of your grip while keeping the lower half of your grip standard? If so what did you think of that?
And
2. To your knowledge is there a rule of thumb, specially if say one wears a large golf glove then midsize grips would technically be the proper fitting?
I’m a single digit handicap and I read most of the comments on here and it was obvious to me you know what you’re talking about so I thought I would reach out and ask for your thoughts. Thank you.
@@jaydee5447 Hey there, yes you are correct. Smaller grip will make the club head release a little bit more easily. If your grips are the size of a telephone pole it is going to be much harder to rotate that club head compared to say a grip the size of a pencil.. if that makes any sense.
And to answer your questions, I have not tried to double wrap the butt of the club head but I have heard of people that do. I don’t tend to double wrap because it basically makes them just under a midsize grip diameter. And even though I can see the reasoning behind it, my thought on it is this… This game rewards consistency. If everything is uniform and consistent. I think the game will come easier. As you know it is a hard enough game as it is..
And for your second question, I don’t exactly know if there is a rule of thumb as far as what size hands belong with what grip diameter but what I do know is at the end of the day it is all about feel and what you are trying to accomplish. If midsize feels better to you, those are probably the ones for you BUT there are ups and downs to both sizes as far as preforming goes. The upside to midsize is that the ball will tend to go straighter. The upside to the standard grips are that they give you a little better feedback and workability with the ball left to right and right to left. I have large hands and was fit to midsize grips years ago but I had to kind of figure it out on my own with a lot of trial and error. Hope this saves you some time and some strokes!
@@skylerblair7468 Thank you for your response and feedback. I’m going to stick with standard size grips.
How did the grip size change swing weight? It would have lightened it, so was that also a factor in the results?
What’s the weight difference in those two grips? Did you change swing weight?
I have small glove hands and the tour velvet +4 midsize grips work best. I'm 67 and have lost some strength in my hands. The midsize works since my finger tips just touch the meat of my hands and I don't have to squeeze to hold on. My shots are stronger and I hit the center of the face better. More fluid swing for sure.
Does the additional weight in the midsized grip effect the weight of the club??
I recently dropped from a 70g stiff to a 60g stiff to gain some swing speed and then put a midsized grip on the lighter shaft and in turn it actually felt heavier to swing than the 70g shaft!! 🤷🤷🤷
So does anybody think about swingweight when they are changing the weight and size of their grips or is swingweight a non- factor?
I play mid size and happy with them . I’m a plasterer and my right hand can often take over and I get a big pull left , in theory could a few raps around the lower part of the drip help quite my right hand a bit , ? Or maybe try plus 4 grips ?
Your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks
Have midsize on my irons and wedges. Playing standard on driver and woods. Just scared to change them out to midsize
I tried midsize Tour Velvet grips but didn't feel like they fit my smaller hands very well. Switched to the Tour Velvet standard +4 grips and really like the feel and performance.
Same
that's interesting, because the difference between standard and mid-size is about 4 layers of tape, so what did you feel was the difference? The standard+4 was firmer?
Between the midsize crossline lamkin and the midsize tour velvet golfpride I think there is 20g difference, does it change the DW?
I have smaller hands but instead of going all the way up to a mid-size just add a wrap or 2.I have my Driver grip with 2 wraps and it’s fantastic ! Try it !
would wearing a golf glove also help and not gripping it so tight? I thought i read a recent article that stated that.
Is this a representativ comparision? In my opinion you should use the same grip model. The CPX is a special grip for golfer with arthritic hands...
On the money. Just switched to midsize mcc+4 +1 wrap of tape from standard +2 wraps of tape and wish I’d done it years ago. Much more relaxed, better release, gentler shot shapes, and less physical stress 😘👍. Also worth noting dropped 2 swing weights and more of a counter balanced, lighter feel, but so far no complaints. I’m only seeing benefits 😀
Did you check the swingweight? I am sure it was different. Just make sure that the grip weights are the same. If not then the swing weight will be different.
In my experiences, grip size is very much under looked. Good vid.
Tiger woods. Standard grips with 1 wrap. Worked pretty good for him.
Tiger woods. .00000000001% of golfers.
I don't have big hands but can't see how people play with standard size grips. They feel like they want to fly out of the hands lol
I feel the same. I measure smack in the middle of standard grips, but very much prefer playing midsize.
You get more speed. Learn to roll your wrists.
And I don't think you are wrong with that feeling. The correct release does feel like that. Almost like classic cross country skiing. Sorry for the weird reference.
I’m just moving up to mid-size. The standards feel just so thin…
Thicker grips will stop pulling left or right?
what size glove do you wear? maybe midsize grip is the right fit for you in traditional measurement sense.
Michael you mention that you have big paws which I do not doubt. Just how big are they? If you measure using NFL standards (tip of the thumb to tip of the small finger) what do you measure? I measure 24cm. I typically use a standard grip but recently put a medium grip on a club and it feels great. Give us a point of reference. I hate to depend on feel for something like this and my $3,000 launch monitor is on the blink. :)
Next vid has to be write out grooves vs normal grooves?
Michael did you have to add weight to the club head?
first thing i noticed was the two very different grips. would have liked to see thesame grips used. but thats just me
Medium/ large glove
Went from midsize to align +4 standard.
Money
Been using Golf Pride MCC+4 mid-size grips for a long time now and can't imagine going back to standard size grips ever.
May even choose to experiment with jumbo size grips at some point.
One key issue to bear in mind, however, is that different grips from different manufacturers will have different weights, which can affect your golf club's swing weight.
Dri-Tac grips tend to be much lighter in weight as compared to Golf Pride MCC+4 grips, so a 10-gram difference in weight can make your driver's club head feel much heavier (or lighter if you are going from Golf Pride to Dri-Tac), and that would also apply to any club head in your bag.
Swing weights are extremely important to notice and nail down in terms of what works best for you.
Wrong way round, heavier grip lowers swing wieght
As a 6 handicap I don't notice a big difference between standard and mid-size grips. I currently have standard grips on my driver, fairway 5 wood, and 3 hybrid but use mid-size grips on my irons.
I use midsize Purley because I have larger hand's
Hi wish you also compared tested JUMBO grip
I don’t use a glove and I’ve got big hands, and I use oversize grips
Hiya dude, luvin’ the content……
But when listening on a device with multi channels your talking only comes out the left channel….🤔
Does midsize grip affect swing weight of club ?
It would be interesting to know how different grips affect the swing weight, a midsize could be significant heavier
5grams reduces swingweight by 1 point
I went up to midsize grips and found it out too much weight in the hands. Made the club head feel oddly light
Unless you have small hands, I really don't understand how for most men, Midsized is not the 'standard 'grip - it especially lets you get your lower right hand, so much more in contact with the grip for the application of power - you can see this in the long-drive world where absolutely no one uses a small grip. I made the switch to Align Plus Four Midsized grips a few years back, and it is one of, if not the best things I've ever done, that improved my golf game immediately.
Interesting video!
I googled and found that the tour velvet is 50 grams and the CPX midsize is 66 grams. So I guess it was a difference in swing weight too?
16 grams is 4 swing weight points difference.
Digital avatar Michael Newton in the studio again … what happened to the escapee the Newtonmeister??
Why not the same grip (coxswain) in standard and mid
Since you play Mid you should have tried a jumbo too in this test
15-20$ spending for a massive improvement - no brainer to try! Moved from standard size grip to Midsize and heavier shaft in my 3w, huge gains.
This is another area overlooked in custom fitting. Every time I go and get fitted I’m always given grips too small so how do I know if the fitting is right if the grip makes that much difference in dispersion. It’s always something you get asked at the end but clearly it matters. Another reason I always struggle getting genuinely fitted correctly.
I agree fitters should have the grips and shafts paired together in fittings. Far and few between probably do it that way. I’ve yet to experience it. Usually it’s shafts then a quick measurement and a simple “what grips you want?”.
Would have been helpful to have had ‘face-to-path’ as a metric to see if that’s the correlation between grip size and fades/draws
I have midsize on my driver, woods, and wedges. My irons have standard size. I just hit them straighter. 🤷
I tried midsized grips for a month or so, but ended up going back to standard. I didn't notice any difference in in my shots, I just prefer the feel of the standard size.
In my experience handsy players like a smaller grip.
I noticed that you are a no glove man Michael.
Until Winn stopped making the Hybrid Polymer Cord midsize grip I didn't use one either. I now use Golf Pride MCC+4 midsize but I have to use a glove. This annoys me since I've always preferred the feel of no glove.
Why NO Golf Glove…?
Not sure about 114 club head speed and only carry 265??? When i get to mid teens it is easily over 280-285 carry.
Why wouldn’t you use the same kind of grip?
Thought too small a grip miss will be predominantly left too much hand action , too large a miss right, you had miss right and left with standard grip ??
It would have been a truer comparison to use the same grip style in different sizes.
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Am I the only one here to actually play better with a smaller grip, the larger grip feels like I am holding a cricket bat, a smaller grip for me let's me feel where the head of the club is in the swing allowing me to shape the shot
You probably dropped 2 swing weight points with the midsize grip.
Audio needs fixing. Only in left ear
You needed to go right size grip for you vs larger grip size. Not a grip that is too small for your hands. No one would ever test that.
On a medical point of view anyone with O/A or sore hands from work seems to benefit from thicker grips
Yes correct.
For this test to be more valid and realistic you should have also used a larger grip (because you already play a mid-size) along with the smaller grip. That way the results would show if you played a larger grip how it would impact your game vs what you are already comfortable playing. Basically watching this episode was a waste of time....sorry.
Would have been a much fairer test using the exact same head and shaft tbh as there is always manufacturing tolerances, so no 2 drivers will give you the exact same outcome............doing a video testing this would be good?? Using 2 drivers that should be identical and seeing the difference
Must be nice to be tall and barely have to put any effort into your swing.