Larger grips are also very beneficial for senior golfers who no longer have the hand strength of their younger days. I'm 74 and still a single figure handicap I put a Winn DryTac grip on my driver a couple of years ago and benefited immediately from longer and straighter drives. Over time, I will install these grips on all my clubs.
I think the reason you hit to the right of center with the putter grip is because you placed the flat part of the putter grip at the 12 O' clock position which would promote a weaker grip & right of center results. You should have aligned the flat portion of the grip with your normal grip top hand thumb position, say 1 or 2 O' clock. I think if you would have indexed properly your results have been better. Just a thought.
Two rule changes; stroke and distance for out of bounds. To speed the game up, just drop from where the ball went out, take a penalty stroke and hit. A ball landing in a divot on the fairway should be ground under repair with a free lift no closer to the hole. I replaced all my grips this year to Golf Pride CP2 oversize and have been very happy with the results.
There is a course south of Minneapolis where there is so many water hazards so you get to use the lateral water hazard rules. If you hit a ball that far off line, on most courses , it would be out of bounds. Back to the tee box and hit another. At Willengers, you save a lot of time and speed up the game making it more fun.
Juanmccain is sort of correct. The rule has not changed but they have a local rule (E-5) that would need to declared in play. IMHO, though, it is too complex. Ideally it would be played like a penalty area (e.g. determine entry point, 2 club lengths). Instead you determine entry point, determine closest fairway, then take two club lengths).
@@chumb01 E-5 causes more problems than it solves. Here in N. Nevada we recommend that clubs not use it. It also affects handicapping for the round(lowering strokes received)
That may speed up the game but a one stroke penalty is almost cheating. To get back to the same spot off the tee would be your third shot, making your shot from near where you O.B, shot landed, your fourth shot !
You think you got it bad...for our 20th anniversary my wife gave me a mug that says..."I wish your dick was as big as your ego". Needless to say...after that sort of message...IT WAS!!!
Yeah...why you should hit your ball in a divot caused by a lazy guy/gal who did not repair his/her divots? lt would be nice to have a USGA rule to penalize anyone who doesn't repair his/her divot.
What consitutes a divot ? Is a bare lie a divot ? Just another way for people to cheat. Play it as it lies and get on with it, we don't need to slow the game down and increase cheating. What if I hit a poor shot, a nasty thin with an iron and it end in a divot on the fairway, do I need to play it as it wasn't a good shot ? Who decides what is a good shot ? It is what it is, hit the ball and move on. Its not possible to make a fair rule from this situation.
With the flat face of the putter grip, you should try it canted 45degrees to where the flat part is where it would lie in the fingers of your right hand. Would be interesting to see those results.
Interesting comments. I was wondering if should try larger grips as I have slightly bigger hands than normal I suppose. I wear an extra large glove. And I was hoping they might help to not aggravate my carpal tunnel so much, which is a bit like arthritis. My hands tend to go a bit numb if I play too much bloody golf. Really need to go and get it operated on I think.
Hey from a data perspective, Have a thought... with only 10 shots in each group you might want to take your best and worst shots out of each group. I bet the circles change a bunch. Cool video. When I was first starting out I basically had a death grip on my driver. Fitter set me up with a larger grip to take out the tension in my hands. This helped teach me to loosen up my grip to get the club face to close but my miss was always a fade/slice. After I learned what I needed to know about grip pressure (took forever for me to change) I dropped back to standard and with less tension the club face would release correctly. This whole experience helped me learn about grips tension and how to control the face through impact. Now I rarely slice and I’m turning the ball over for a nice draw when the tee shot requires it. Great video man, cheers!
Excellent fellow golfer----I use to love the first time I played in 1979 where you could use clubs which molded the grips to show where your hands should be. Not legal now. But it did teach me at the time to get great at golf in 2021.
Tried out mid size cp2 pro on my srixon driver and wow! Baby fade/ straight. Best part is that I can really go after it and not be penalized. Did have to add lead tape to bring back 1 SW point. Thanks again!
went jumbo here on all mine... even took an inch plus on driver shaft... had to strengthen my right hand grip a little stop the fade/slice... give it a try... love the larger grip!
I have been using the JumboMax since they came out. My consistent straightness is phenomenal with these XL grips. I will never use a small grip again. I take it one step further with my driver and fairway woods; I use the reverse taper Enlow grips. They are great too. Thanks for the demo. Great stuff.
I changed all my irons to midsize grips and got more consistent ball flight with that. And, as you said, feeling more relaxed after not squeezing the grips. I consider changing my driver as well, but after this clip I don’t need to consider anymore. I’ll just do it!
Dude! Seriously, buy a vise so you can do those grip changes safely! LOL love this video tho! It’s so hard for the normal golfer to test these ideas. Thanks Matt!
I would add that I'm surprised that someone who plays and tinkers as much as you do doesn't use an air compressor to install and swap grips. Saves time and makes life A LOT simpler! Thanks for what you do!
@@qlooker41 Does it really save that much time apart from not having to let them dry? From what I've seen it's harder to get them straight cause you get less slip and have to fiddle with the air while trying to straighten it at the same time
@@owenrivard8832 I found it quicker than adhesive, with the added bonus that you can remove or adjust if needed without cutting the grip off and wasting it.
I've just changed my iron grips to a smaller size. I have always been a "hands" player, and felt that the grips I was using were inhibiting my hand movements. I found I was pushing shots, and when I tried to use my hands through the ball to square the club, I'd either smother the shot, or duck hook it, or both. With the smaller grips, I'm getting a lot cleaner strike, and regained a bit of lost distance. So I'm happy.
I have been concidering doing this very same thing for quite some time now as I also have arthritic hands. Using standard size grips seems to make me want to grip more tightly and that creates tension in my swing. I will definitely change the grip on my driver and try out a few of my irons aswell. I am surprised that this has been the only lesson I know of that covers this subject. Great lesson.
I have recently changed my grips to the golf pride Jumbo's. I am hitting more consistent. I have lost a little distance but made up for it in accuracy.👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺🍻🍻
Except then you could play the ball if found. I can imagine how happy property owners would be having golfers hit errant shot out of their backyards. OB is OB for a reason.
Divots in the Fairway... three rules apply: man made immovable obstruction, ground under repair and an embedded lie. Either way you should move the ball and not be penalized for a good tee shot, just take the closest relief no closer to the pin. I'll be changing my grips soon, interesting video for helping my choice. Think it's wrong not to have flat sided grips available for all clubs.
Put a jumbo max ultralight small size grip on the driver a couple weeks ago. I struggle with hooking the ball and figured I’d give it a whirl. Worked like magic, now my misses are much more playable.
Great video. Hope you find a course to film on. Screens are nice, but seeing the trees and green grass and sky is better. Thanks for all the work on this grip question!
Hey Mr. Short Game; Enjoyed your video regarding the grip size! You requested suggestions for the rules of golf. Since one of the reasons many people don’t play golf is that it take to much time! Here are my solutions to this problem. A. Instructions should be very limited on the course and participants should be encouraged to use the driving range! (A small bucket of balls could be offered for first time players!) B. All players shall not touch their ball once it’s been teed up through the green. C. The pin is left in at all times. D The player closest to the pin putts out first! E. The player who is the next closest putts out and so on until all players have finished putting. F Reading the green should be limited to 30 seconds! G. Players should tee off when ready, ‘honors’ are irrelevant. H. Looking for lost balls should be kept to a maximum of 3 minutes. (If you can’t afford a few golf balls and tees, you can’t afford to play!) I. All players are required to replace divots and repair ball marks on the greens immediately! These simply changes, once implemented, that will reduce the time spend on the golf course and will be more enjoyable for all. Thanks, Don Shumsky - A 60+ year golfer, still playing! dshumsky@msn.com
The thing that I found with different grips to affect my drives was whether or not the grips were corded. Much better driving results with corded grips than with tacky or tour wrap grips.
I stopped wearing a glove 30+ years ago and I was using corded grips already and have continued ever since. I have never missed the gloves a bit. However, in cold and wet weather I wear rain gloves on both hands, The grips I use are next size larger than standard and corded, love them.
1. Use any grip you want. 2. Fairway divot relief. Immediately beside or behind 3. Un-raked bunker. Immediately beside or behind use rake to fix 4. Chunk of mud on ball in fairway. Thus, no need for lift clean and place “on call” 5. Treat OB like hazard. 6. Tree root relief. 7. Driver shaft length ( mine is 3 wd length). 8. Knee high drop. How dainty is that. 9. 14 clubs. Most of us don’t use all 14 every round, loose the limit. 10. ________
Great work! I had done the putter grip maneuver on my hybrids, initially, to chip with and also naturally hit some normal distances on rest of course. Wow my hook calmed down immensely with more consistency! I used the Lamkin putter grip more normal size but with flat side and a swelling at top end allowing for better secure grip with left hand for right hand player. I like the way you approach the game of golf for this 77y/o duffer-subscribed.
Took up golf at 73 years old and after 4 decades in construction/roofing in top physical shape and using banner, nail gun, snips, swas etc the first thing I noticed was the round shape of golf club grip was different from 90% of tool grips. So I changed the grip on my driver and shaped it to match the grip on my framing hammer. Immediate good results, seldom slice and easier "feel" of the club head and ball. Then I am told this is not allowed in tournament play! Well, nearing 74 and starting to outplay my 75 to 85 year old mates and never going to play tournament golf I am keeping my "illegal" grips and spend far less time in the woods hunting for my ball . Good tools handles are ergonomically designed to fit the hand, assist in keeping hammer head, drill etc square to whatever is being struck, drilled, screwed. Ever part of a golf club has over the decades, being designed, engineered to provide max performance. That is with the exception of the golf club grips which for some odd reason (tradition perhaps?) the round, skinny grip remains sacrosanct? Good video 👍👍 🖖
Added the Jumbomax ultralite a few weeks ago & couldn't be more stoked with the results! Felt weird at first, but got used to it pretty quick. As a leftie, my misses were mostly pushed to the left side of the fairway. Now the ball flight is straighter & sometimes even a draw or two! Now playing shots from the right side (which rarely happened) now!
I changed my grips from regular to the jumbo arthritic grips because of the arthritis in my hands really helpful hot the ball straighter and hands don't hurt as bad
TL;DR - You can watch TXG for a more in depth explanation, but essentially smaller grip you'll close the face more and the larger the grip the more the face will remain open. You can't use the flat grip because it is a swing assist tool on any club that isn't the putter.
I thought it must be something like that. Had he had the flat spot one or two degrees to the right, he would have been hitting it straight in the middle of the fairway (probably with a baby draw). It would be easier to grip the club exactly the same every time if there was a flat spot. Now if it was allowed, it'd be the same opportunity for everyone, so it wouldn't bother me though.
Yea pretty pretty dumb Mr. SG can’t wrap his head around the fact that, if you want to do dumb stuff like putt with a driver or use your putter off the tee box; USGA doesn’t care because you’re not giving yourself an unfair advantage/and/or you can’t take away the essentials needed to be good. If you want to make it harder on yourself by using your putter off the tee, nobody cares, but when you’re adding an unfair advantage then it’s not legal. Putter grips are not allowed on drivers; pretty straightforward and common sense rule.
And Mr Shortgame is the guy who said in an earlier vid that he thought lines on a ball should not be legal because it’s an alignment aid when putting. He said no lines should be allowed on ball.
*...it is a swing assist tool on every club that isn't a putter* That's not true. It assists the "swing" (rotation to and through the ball) of a slow, abbreviated putter stroke just as much as it does that of a driver by giving feedback on the clubface at impact. No difference. If you're a purist, just say so and we can have that debate. But don't try and say the SAME THING has some obvious justifying discrepancy. A stroke's just a short swing.
I’ve been wanting to put a putter grip on all my clubs for a long time, I’m not on tour so it wouldn’t matter. If you use an air compressor you can take the grips off and on real fast.
@@chr970lol nope but I will some day :) The question is, if it’s the way to keep our club squared to the ball and more speed than why not make it legal? I say squared or hexagon grips would solve a lot of problems there’d be no more slipping in the hands by far for any level maybe. Too my knowledge I think the putter grips are to short or the wrong hole size. Just for fun I’ll look at it and if it can be done 🤔 but I’m pretty sure I looked into it already. I’m retired I’ll give it another shot. Thank you
Thank you sir I have been playing golf for 3 years now for the first 2 and a half years I shot a 121 now I'm shooting in the high 90s. Thanks again you ROCK!
@@jonnyfredriksson447 You are correct. I should learn to keep up. FYI we don't have any water hazards at Stirling Golf Club just a lot of trees. Thanks for your help. Paul
I noticed when I used jumbo grips I would hit it right. I had a set of Tiger Shark irons where the grips were different size. The longer the club the smaller the grip. I hit those clubs better than any clubs ever. That was almost 30 years ago
Your STANDARD grip proved more consistent, possibly due to feeling “normal” as opposed to using a different thickness and causing a different and odd grip feel. Remember though the weight shift (increased gram weight) on the larger grips reduces the driver SWING WEIGHT. This accounts for it “feeling” lighter because of the counter balance in reduction of head weight, it may for average golfers reduce distance mostly due to the lower swing weight and club head speed, but in doing so for average players after they get used to the change may find more control. The test revealed thicker grips reduced the ability for “loose” wrists and therefore balls going more right. The test was very good but it may prove that as Bryson is reaching for new horizons, once you get used to the differences in feel, a thicker grip it may help certain players but I suspect not all... just remember fatter grips both reduce the freedom of wrist turn and reduced swing weight ... but if the gram weight can match the weight of your standard grip gram weight AND you adjust to the grip thickness ... you may be up to something that SOME GOLFERS ... not all ... may find beneficial ... BRYSON and TIME may reveal its effect! One thing you can bet ... look out ... R&A & USGA will not like what just happened in the Open. Bryson says he is going to try next a 48” driver !!!
But really the Super Stroke was just as consistent as the fat one minus on bad shot that made the dispersion ring that big. And his standard grip was also all over the place when compared to the bigger ones, so with a little fine tuning that fat grip would probably be the best for him (out of the legal ones).
I think it's ridiculous that the talking heads and old time golfers in the media, are talking about how golf courses are being overpowered. The fact that only one player at the US Open managed to stay under par tells me that skill and finesse are still extremely important. I'm a mid handicapper. I love seeing the elite golfers do things I will never achieve. It's why I watch any elite level athlete. So, why do the old farts want to reign them in? They're not using performance enhancing drugs, they're just playing better, after working really hard at it. Bryson's win should finally shut the mouths of those media types who mocked him on live TV for his physical and clearly mental gains. It's like when the Fosbury flop was used for the first time in high jump. Everyone scoffed at first, until the competition got consistently destroyed.
I use the jumbomax grip on my driver...they have an ultralight model that does not change the swing weight and that is what I use. Also, I wear a medium large glove and was told by the guys at jumbomax to try the small, which is plenty big for my hands. So, hand size will definitely affect the overall performance of the large grips also; you need to figure out what works best for you. BTW, I love being able to hit my driver as hard as I can and not fear going left and I'm hitting at least 10 yards longer on average.
good video - thumbs up...i recently went to a jumbo grip on all my clubs and it does take some time to assimilate...however, after several rounds, can't imagine going back to a regular grip...too skinny/thin...feels more comfortable and secure with bigger grips. regarding rules - if my friend lands in a gravel area...i always allow a drop in the grass as to NOT damage his clubs hitting off the gravel.
Get a grip of yourself Matt :-) Great insight. I find the thicker grip on my putter gives me more control and often wondered about a thicker grip on my driver.
This experiment was done along with many others relating to golf in the 70's, I think the book was called 'The search for the perfect swing' having read it I pretty much knew what you were going to find with the grip changes.
I predicted that the larger grips would tend to pattern to the right. I expected them to also be a little shorter in distance. Not the case. Great video. We appreciate it.
lol! I have sank a few putts with my driver. One time was for an eagle on a short par 4 to win a bet. And I use to have the small jumbomax grip on my driver and 3 wood. I felt like I could feel where the club head was a little better and It did improve my dispersion, but I noticed I seem to lose some distance. I think you should be able to use whatever grip you want on the driver.
Good video. I like mid size on driver. Big enough to be snug and comfortable in the hand but not so big that it promotes the club face being left wide-open. Perfect balance.
Bought a new driver in June. The fitter convinced me to try a medium sized grip - whoa 🤩 I have now changed the grip on my 50° wedge (it was overdue) and to midsized - it works 👍
NYC Entrepreneur I’m 6’2” and the standard grip sometimes feels “thin”. I never thought about changing until he suggested it. I now feel that I have better control over the driver with the medium sized grip and now also with the wedge - will change the grips on the remaining clubs in the bag when I get the time to do it.
Would installing the putter grip slightly counter clockwise help in squaring up the club ? Also did the club face feel more stable at impact with the jumbo max or putter grip?
It did for me, I accidently put a putter grip on my Topflite driver (only been golfing for a month or so, and have no concept on the rules) and it's a bit offset. I'm hitting that about 5x more consistently than my other driver (Talyormade M4) and it's funny, but pisses me off that my $40 driver is more consistent than my $350 driver 😂😂😂
Switched to Jumbomax STR8 XL a year ago. Everything is better. I have XXL hands and have always had an issue with griping the club too tightly - felt that the club would fly out of my hands. The STR8 was an eye opener. I did their challenge, buy a set, install one and play. Wound up playing most of the round with my 7 iron. Fewer strokes when they are all in the fairway and solidly struck. Got home and changed the grips on the rest of my clubs. My wedges immediately became dart throwing scoring machines. You mentioned rotating your wrists - I am really not conscious of that with my swing, I only want the feel of the back of my left hand pointing at the target through impact. These grips helped that a lot, I suspect because I no longer have the death grip on my sticks. Stupid Rule - any penalty requiring distance AND a stroke. Except for the Professionals. Reason: A) This really slows down play for everyone behind you and B) you are already screwed enough. Stroke penalty, drop and play.
I disagree personally, the number 1 rule in golf is play the ball as it lies, hitting the green doesn’t guarantee you an easy putt, hitting the fairway doesn’t guarantee you a good lie. Just my opinion, what do you think?
Matt Robertson I understand but why have a nice cut short fairway, if the reward is hitting out of a 1" hole. Might as well mow it all at 2" high, then you won't get as many divots
@@nikej24 I think golf's not meant to be easy, you get good guys and bad lies and you take what you're given, that's the beauty of it, maybe we don't just ask for relief when it gets more difficult in my opinion. It can suck but when you it a good shot from a bad lie it's even better
Idealistically, these should be filled in with sand or dirt by players. "Divots" shouldn't really exist out on the fairways if everyone takes care of the golf course; a good habit to get into.
Back in the 60s I inherited a persimmon 3 wood that had a grip with a flat front. It was my favorite club in my teens and always wondered why I never saw another.
Getting plus 4 midsized grips put on my clubs as we speak :) super excited. Can't wait to play indoor leauge Thursday with my clubs e tended and new grips
2" masking tape only has glue on one side only. Might work if you swing speed is less than 70 mph. You start swinging that club hard and the grip will shift. LMAO.
Just saw your video. EXCELLENT work. Ive been in the golf and business for a LONG !!! time ... Your results happen for 99% of the people Ive worked with (Except putter grip ;) ) ... I do a lot of things with CobraTour and LITERALLY had a grip one on one with Bryson himself last time he was here at the Zurich. I've been using JumboMax XL ever since .. I'd love to chat with you about what you found and I'll tell you what he has to say ;) .... GREAT video. Larger grips on irons also have a unique result pattern.
Another great video! One little tip though... buy yourself an air compressor (one with a tank) and get a nozzle gun fitting for it (Looks like a larger version of a needle fitting used for inflating footballs, basketballs etc). Cut a piece of pvc pipe (make sure it's a fairly snug fit over the golf grip), make it about 3/4 of the length of the grip, slide the pvc pipe over the grip when its on the club, stick the nozzle of the air compressor fitting into the end of the grip and let her rip. You will never have to cut and waste a grip ever again. I put a layer of tape on the shaft, blow a grip on and head straight out for a game, no waiting for solvent to dry. Best way by far, and doesn't give you that headache you can get after using solvent for long periods of time. P.s... You'll want the compressor to be able to deliver atleast 90Psi. Keep up the great videos, yet to see a bad one from you mate! Cheers from Western Australia. 👍
Grip size and weight has no REAL impact on swingweight. Yes, you will get a different reading on the swingweight scale with a heavier or lighter grip but you are only 'tricking' the swingweight scale. The swingweight scale was developed with a standard 50 grams as the grip weight and to give a measurable value to how heavy the clubhead feels in the club set-up. Whilst a heavier or lighter grip effects the static weight of a club it doesn't effect head feel because you hinge the club from your hands.
I have been moving all my grips up to a midsize super strike grip and it feels a lot more comfortable. I have a longer hand then most and the midsize give me more control with less grip strength. Thanks for the vid and I agree some of the rules are just plain dumb and almost psychotic.
Hey from a data perspective, Have a thought... with only 10 shots in each group you might want to take your best and worst shots out of each group. I bet the circles change a bunch. Cool video. When I was first starting out I basically had a death grip on my driver. Fitter set me up with a larger grip to take out the tension in my hands. This helped teach me to loosen up my grip to get the club face to close but my miss was always a fade/slice. After I learned what I needed to know about grip pressure (took forever for me to change) I dropped back to standard and with less tension the club face would release correctly. This whole experience helped me learn about grips tension and how to control the face through impact. Now I rarely slice and I’m turning the ball over for a nice draw when the tee shot requires it. Great video man, cheers!
I play Midsize +4 with 3 layers of tape. It feels about half way to the oversize. If you use an air compressor and paper tape that has a rougher surface, then you can chop and change grips super quickly. They do not need to have adhesive. I have a 115+ swing speed on my driver and my grips don't budge. Love the content.
I experimented by cutting my 3 & 4 rescues to the length of my 5. Hit much much better shots. New swing weight: B5, C5 & D2. Swing weight does nothing bad to my shots. Love my "new" rescues now. I am a 14.2 handicapper.
A larger grip actually fixed my driver slice. For the longest time I couldn’t figure out why my driver face would not close or square up at impact. I was using the drivers std size grip with tapered profile. Once I switched to Golf Pride mcc +4 With an additional tape wrap it corrected the slice. 2 theories for me: 1) either I was gripping way too hard because my grip was too small so i couldn’t release or 2) on my downswing my driver would twist and slip in my hands.
My theory is it’s all in the down swing because the number on reason most people slice is cause the leave the club face open and I can bet that having a bigger grip will help you by making it easier to close the face on the down swing acting like a leaver but with it being bigger and your hand open more it makes the club roll over in your hand easier that’s my theory
I have a Super Stroke 5.0 on my putter & the flat side is turned to the right side, for a flat side on my right hand. Also, have JumboMax grips (XL) on my woods & adding to my irons for Christmas. Slows down my active hands. They are awesome.
So true! If you hit the fairway you should be rewarded with a good lie. Hit off of the fairway and you’re penalized. The divot rule makes no sense to me.
This is funny because Bryson won the us open with thick grips, excited to watch, and have a great day😀! I think that a stupid rule is the 3 minute look for a ball rule. I think it should go back to 5 minutes🏌️♂️.
I enjoyed the comparisons of gross, but do wish you could have included mid sized groups as well. It would have been interesting to see the difference between jumbo, mid and standard grips. A shaft vice and air pump helps removing the grips without damage and installation.
As far as the dumb rules of golf go...if your playing partner has you move your ball mark, it should be the person who requests the mark to be moved that has the responsibility (not just common courtesy) to make sure the mark gets moved back and incur a penalty if it’s not.
I got a compressor, and I use JumboMax grips, believe me, you need liquid on the tape to get that grip on. I use the jelled hand sanitizers instead of solvent, it stays wet longer while you get the grip on, and a lot cheaper than the solvent!
Wow! This is a very cool video MSG because I started trying out using Jumbomax LG on my irons and XL on the woods and hybrid last summer and they helped improve my confidence and distance on each of my club about 15-20 yds. It convinced me after I hit a large bucket of balls with just a 7 iron and PW that i could control my club face better. A lot of teaching pros and a lot of tournament players i talked to didn't really like the idea but it worked out for me and now i am very happy with my game and feel i have a better chance in the competition. I even put the round jumbo LG on my putter and hopefully, it is legal in competition cos the guy who installed it said it is legal 😃. I saw the same ball patterns similar to your testing and just worked on how to hold my grip and let it ripped and it would go farther than my regular grip that i used to hit. The coolest thing was i didn't feel like i swung hard at all. It may not work for everyone but i wish they would put the big grip on a demo so golfers would get a chance to try it out first. Just a word of caution, i would recommend not to change all your grip at once because after you hit with the big grip, you can mess up when you go back to using your regular grip. I am so glad to see this video and thank you so much for making this clip MSG!. Cannot wait to see what you have next 😃👍👍👍
Changed to GP MCC4 Midsize. Clubs feel so much better now. There is the issue of weight to take into account. Didn’t realize how the extra weight affects your club…just make sure to take it into account.
I have changed my grip to a midsize one and I’ve only played two rounds but am hitting it longer and starter than before .also I have shortened my backswing 👍
Nice video! I put a jumbomax ultralite on my driver and fairway wood about 6wks ago- has been a success so far. The consistent ball flight i get on my fairway wood is so far from the crapshoot i use to get. Driver has been better than my normal grip, but not the lightswitch like fairway wood. I have the size small on fairway and medium on driver. Will be switching to small size on driver.
Anyone else remember the "gripless" driver shafts.?.? The too-thin = everything right finding goes against most that I have heard about club fitting where the too-big for you grip will prevent hand rotation and exaggerate the slice. There are ton of grip manufacturers that are doing a less tapered grip for the 'swinging clubs" and have even seen "reverse tapered" grips from Enlow Golf at a trade show which surprisingly felt good and super intriguing, but not enough to commit to the entire set. i have tried re-gripping my putter a few times this way (flat side facing target). It was ok, albeit odd (though I liked the "2 Thumbs grip" more this way), for my left-hand low set-up. Mentally, helped with preventing wrist break and keeping putterhead on line.
Dumb rule , not being allowed to move your ball from a divot or sand trap that wasnt racked and sitting in a foot print. I use mid size grips allows me less pressure and feels more solid.
Great video. The Jumbomax grip that you were using is intended to be used by someone who wears a xxl golf glove. The rule of fitting for the jumbomax grip is to fit a grip one size down from your glove size. I use a large Jumbomax Grip in my Driver as I wear a XL glove and these grips work. The only issue I have is from the people who won’t break with traditional (especially here in the U.K.) Who frown and ridicule me. But I have the last laugh when they hand over their money in the clubhouse after the game! 👍👍
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One stupid rule in golf that has seriously affected my play..... having to count every stroke!
My pro tip is have ADHD, forget one of your blunder shots and then you're a winner, or have your team remind you of that and then you cri everiteim :(
brilliant haha
And the pencil forgets a few.
Thanks to "The Left", I can now not identify one of my golf strokes per hole. I've been 18 under ever since!!!
I stopped counting years ago. I just write down the usual 116 before the first tee, fire up a cigar, and start sipping ole Johnnie
Larger grips are also very beneficial for senior golfers who no longer have the hand strength of their younger days. I'm 74 and still a single figure handicap I put a Winn DryTac grip on my driver a couple of years ago and benefited immediately from longer and straighter drives. Over time, I will install these grips on all my clubs.
Love those grips!!!
Change all my club for that this summer, amazing grip. Love them
I think the reason you hit to the right of center with the putter grip is because you placed the flat part of the putter grip at the 12 O' clock position which would promote a weaker grip & right of center results. You should have aligned the flat portion of the grip with your normal grip top hand thumb position, say 1 or 2 O' clock. I think if you would have indexed properly your results have been better. Just a thought.
Two rule changes; stroke and distance for out of bounds. To speed the game up, just drop from where the ball went out, take a penalty stroke and hit. A ball landing in a divot on the fairway should be ground under repair with a free lift no closer to the hole. I replaced all my grips this year to Golf Pride CP2 oversize and have been very happy with the results.
There is a course south of Minneapolis where there is so many water hazards so you get to use the lateral water hazard rules. If you hit a ball that far off line, on most courses , it would be out of bounds. Back to the tee box and hit another. At Willengers, you save a lot of time and speed up the game making it more fun.
That rule has been changed, if you go OB you may take a drop in the fairway where it went out and take a two stroke penalty.
Juanmccain is sort of correct. The rule has not changed but they have a local rule (E-5) that would need to declared in play. IMHO, though, it is too complex. Ideally it would be played like a penalty area (e.g. determine entry point, 2 club lengths). Instead you determine entry point, determine closest fairway, then take two club lengths).
@@chumb01 E-5 causes more problems than it solves. Here in N. Nevada we recommend that clubs not use it. It also affects handicapping for the round(lowering strokes received)
That may speed up the game but a one stroke penalty is almost cheating. To get back to the same spot off the tee would be your third shot, making your shot from near where you O.B, shot landed, your fourth shot !
This video took a lot of effort to make. Thanks for making it.
So size does matter! My wife was right all these years. I always thought she just had large hands....
You think you got it bad...for our 20th anniversary my wife gave me a mug that says..."I wish your dick was as big as your ego". Needless to say...after that sort of message...IT WAS!!!
In search of a woman with those cheeseburger hands
😀😅🤣🤣
The bigger grips prevents you from releasing the club. That's why they're all right.
This comment didn’t end at all like I expected
If you land on a divot IN THE FAIRWAY - you should be allowed a drop. WHY should you be penalized for hitting a good shot?
Play the ball where it lies, life and golf are not fair. You have no rights only opportunities.
@@willemhaifetz-chen1588 I know thats the rule. The dude was asking for what rule you think should be changed.
Yeah...why you should hit your ball in a divot caused by a lazy guy/gal who did not repair his/her divots? lt would be nice to have a USGA rule to penalize anyone who doesn't repair his/her divot.
What consitutes a divot ? Is a bare lie a divot ? Just another way for people to cheat. Play it as it lies and get on with it, we don't need to slow the game down and increase cheating. What if I hit a poor shot, a nasty thin with an iron and it end in a divot on the fairway, do I need to play it as it wasn't a good shot ? Who decides what is a good shot ? It is what it is, hit the ball and move on. Its not possible to make a fair rule from this situation.
Salvatore San juan because it's golf
With the flat face of the putter grip, you should try it canted 45degrees to where the flat part is where it would lie in the fingers of your right hand. Would be interesting to see those results.
I went from a standard to a midsize golf grip and found that I don’t grip the club as hard. This helps my arthritic hands.
This is absolutely true.
I want to try larger grips because I’ve developed golfer’s elbow.
I have jumbo plus 1/8 th. It's much easier to swing without the extra grip pressure.
Interesting comments. I was wondering if should try larger grips as I have slightly bigger hands than normal I suppose. I wear an extra large glove. And I was hoping they might help to not aggravate my carpal tunnel so much, which is a bit like arthritis. My hands tend to go a bit numb if I play too much bloody golf. Really need to go and get it operated on I think.
I have arthritis and prefer a midsize grip. I quit wearing a glove about a year ago and fond it has giving me softer feel when chipping and putting.
Hey from a data perspective, Have a thought... with only 10 shots in each group you might want to take your best and worst shots out of each group. I bet the circles change a bunch. Cool video. When I was first starting out I basically had a death grip on my driver. Fitter set me up with a larger grip to take out the tension in my hands. This helped teach me to loosen up my grip to get the club face to close but my miss was always a fade/slice. After I learned what I needed to know about grip pressure (took forever for me to change) I dropped back to standard and with less tension the club face would release correctly. This whole experience helped me learn about grips tension and how to control the face through impact. Now I rarely slice and I’m turning the ball over for a nice draw when the tee shot requires it.
Great video man, cheers!
Excellent fellow golfer----I use to love the first time I played in 1979 where you could use clubs which molded the grips to show where your hands should be. Not legal now. But it did teach me at the time to get great at golf in 2021.
9:35, "that's going to be a giant slice." lol ...welcome to our world of tee shots. Thanks for the info/video Matt.
Not me. I am a hooker.
@@WTMNNJR come again?
I just changed mine to a mid sized putter grip and it helped my greatly. I’m hitting my drives tons straighter.
Tried out mid size cp2 pro on my srixon driver and wow! Baby fade/ straight. Best part is that I can really go after it and not be penalized. Did have to add lead tape to bring back 1 SW point. Thanks again!
went jumbo here on all mine... even took an inch plus on driver shaft... had to strengthen my right hand grip a little stop the fade/slice... give it a try... love the larger grip!
I went to 44" on the driver with the huge grip and I'm hitting 90% of the fairways.... golfs become fun again
I have been using the JumboMax since they came out. My consistent straightness is phenomenal with these XL grips. I will never use a small grip again. I take it one step further with my driver and fairway woods; I use the reverse taper Enlow grips. They are great too. Thanks for the demo. Great stuff.
Tell me more about the reverse taper enlows
I can only imagine how 14 of those SuperStroke grips would fit into a bag.
I did it on just 2 clubs and it was a pain.
Good point
most golfers only use 7 clubs especially since the advent of the 28-degree rescue club.... i have no need for a 3 and 5 wood nor 3-4-5 irons
Robb Robb depends on your yardage’s. if you aren’t hitting your driver over 200 obviously no point of all those extra clubs
@@robbrobb659 I have 14 clubs in my bag, and every one of them gets used almost every round.
I changed all my irons to midsize grips and got more consistent ball flight with that. And, as you said, feeling more relaxed after not squeezing the grips.
I consider changing my driver as well, but after this clip I don’t need to consider anymore. I’ll just do it!
Great experiment! For me, the idea of a larger grip relaxing my forearms would suggest a big benefit on my chipping/pitching clubs. Thanks, Mr SG!
Dude! Seriously, buy a vise so you can do those grip changes safely! LOL love this video tho! It’s so hard for the normal golfer to test these ideas. Thanks Matt!
I would add that I'm surprised that someone who plays and tinkers as much as you do doesn't use an air compressor to install and swap grips. Saves time and makes life A LOT simpler! Thanks for what you do!
@@qlooker41 Does it really save that much time apart from not having to let them dry? From what I've seen it's harder to get them straight cause you get less slip and have to fiddle with the air while trying to straighten it at the same time
@@owenrivard8832 I found it quicker than adhesive, with the added bonus that you can remove or adjust if needed without cutting the grip off and wasting it.
I've just changed my iron grips to a smaller size. I have always been a "hands" player, and felt that the grips I was using were inhibiting my hand movements. I found I was pushing shots, and when I tried to use my hands through the ball to square the club, I'd either smother the shot, or duck hook it, or both. With the smaller grips, I'm getting a lot cleaner strike, and regained a bit of lost distance. So I'm happy.
I have been concidering doing this very same thing for quite some time now as I also have arthritic hands. Using standard size grips seems to make me want to grip more tightly and that creates tension in my swing. I will definitely change the grip on my driver and try out a few of my irons aswell.
I am surprised that this has been the only lesson I know of that covers this subject.
Great lesson.
I have recently changed my grips to the golf pride Jumbo's. I am hitting more consistent. I have lost a little distance but made up for it in accuracy.👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺🍻🍻
Just make all out of bounds lateral hazards lol I think that would be a positive rule change help grow the game etc
Except then you could play the ball if found. I can imagine how happy property owners would be having golfers hit errant shot out of their backyards. OB is OB for a reason.
Divots in the Fairway... three rules apply: man made immovable obstruction, ground under repair and an embedded lie. Either way you should move the ball and not be penalized for a good tee shot, just take the closest relief no closer to the pin.
I'll be changing my grips soon, interesting video for helping my choice. Think it's wrong not to have flat sided grips available for all clubs.
Another person whining about divots. Play it as it lies
heavyglassglass in high school almost every course we played at, including our home course, played preferred lies in the fairway.
Put a jumbo max ultralight small size grip on the driver a couple weeks ago. I struggle with hooking the ball and figured I’d give it a whirl. Worked like magic, now my misses are much more playable.
Great video. Hope you find a course to film on. Screens are nice, but seeing the trees and green grass and sky is better. Thanks for all the work on this grip question!
Hey Mr. Short Game;
Enjoyed your video regarding the grip size!
You requested suggestions for the rules of golf.
Since one of the reasons many people don’t play golf is that it take to much time!
Here are my solutions to this problem.
A. Instructions should be very limited on the course and participants should be encouraged to use the driving range! (A small bucket of balls could be offered for first time players!)
B. All players shall not touch their ball once it’s been teed up through the green.
C. The pin is left in at all times.
D The player closest to the pin putts out first!
E. The player who is the next closest putts out and so on until all players have finished putting.
F Reading the green should be limited to 30 seconds!
G. Players should tee off when ready, ‘honors’ are irrelevant.
H. Looking for lost balls should be kept to a maximum of 3 minutes.
(If you can’t afford a few golf balls and tees, you can’t afford to play!)
I. All players are required to replace divots and repair ball marks on the greens immediately!
These simply changes, once implemented, that will reduce the time spend on the golf course and will be more enjoyable for all.
Thanks,
Don Shumsky - A 60+ year golfer, still playing!
dshumsky@msn.com
The thing that I found with different grips to affect my drives was whether or not the grips were corded. Much better driving results with corded grips than with tacky or tour wrap grips.
I stopped wearing a glove 30+ years ago and I was using corded grips already and have continued ever since. I have never missed the gloves a bit. However, in cold and wet weather I wear rain gloves on both hands,
The grips I use are next size larger than standard and corded, love them.
1. Use any grip you want.
2. Fairway divot relief. Immediately beside or behind
3. Un-raked bunker. Immediately beside or behind use rake to fix
4. Chunk of mud on ball in fairway. Thus, no need for lift clean and place “on call”
5. Treat OB like hazard.
6. Tree root relief.
7. Driver shaft length ( mine is 3 wd length).
8. Knee high drop. How dainty is that.
9. 14 clubs. Most of us don’t use all 14 every round, loose the limit.
10. ________
Great work! I had done the putter grip maneuver on my hybrids, initially, to chip with and also naturally hit some normal distances on rest of course. Wow my hook calmed down immensely with more consistency! I used the Lamkin putter grip more normal size but with flat side and a swelling at top end allowing for better secure grip with left hand for right hand player. I like the way you approach the game of golf for this 77y/o duffer-subscribed.
Took up golf at 73 years old and after 4 decades in construction/roofing in top physical shape and using banner, nail gun, snips, swas etc the first thing I noticed was the round shape of golf club grip was different from 90% of tool grips.
So I changed the grip on my driver and shaped it to match the grip on my framing hammer.
Immediate good results, seldom slice and easier "feel" of the club head and ball.
Then I am told this is not allowed in tournament play! Well, nearing 74 and starting to outplay my 75 to 85 year old mates and never going to play tournament golf I am keeping my "illegal" grips and spend far less time in the woods hunting for my ball
. Good tools handles are ergonomically designed to fit the hand, assist in keeping hammer head, drill etc square to whatever is being struck, drilled, screwed. Ever part of a golf club has over the decades, being designed, engineered to provide max performance.
That is with the exception of the golf club grips which for some odd reason (tradition perhaps?) the round, skinny grip remains sacrosanct? Good video 👍👍 🖖
I was just googling this topic yesterday. This is clutch
Clutch.
I'm from Houston and I want to slap people who say that
Added the Jumbomax ultralite a few weeks ago & couldn't be more stoked with the results! Felt weird at first, but got used to it pretty quick. As a leftie, my misses were mostly pushed to the left side of the fairway. Now the ball flight is straighter & sometimes even a draw or two! Now playing shots from the right side (which rarely happened) now!
I changed my grips from regular to the jumbo arthritic grips because of the arthritis in my hands really helpful hot the ball straighter and hands don't hurt as bad
Ima a lefty with big hands and I’m considering doing the same
TL;DR - You can watch TXG for a more in depth explanation, but essentially smaller grip you'll close the face more and the larger the grip the more the face will remain open. You can't use the flat grip because it is a swing assist tool on any club that isn't the putter.
I thought it must be something like that. Had he had the flat spot one or two degrees to the right, he would have been hitting it straight in the middle of the fairway (probably with a baby draw). It would be easier to grip the club exactly the same every time if there was a flat spot.
Now if it was allowed, it'd be the same opportunity for everyone, so it wouldn't bother me though.
Yea pretty pretty dumb Mr. SG can’t wrap his head around the fact that, if you want to do dumb stuff like putt with a driver or use your putter off the tee box; USGA doesn’t care because you’re not giving yourself an unfair advantage/and/or you can’t take away the essentials needed to be good. If you want to make it harder on yourself by using your putter off the tee, nobody cares, but when you’re adding an unfair advantage then it’s not legal. Putter grips are not allowed on drivers; pretty straightforward and common sense rule.
And Mr Shortgame is the guy who said in an earlier vid that he thought lines on a ball should not be legal because it’s an alignment aid when putting. He said no lines should be allowed on ball.
*...it is a swing assist tool on every club that isn't a putter*
That's not true. It assists the "swing" (rotation to and through the ball) of a slow, abbreviated putter stroke just as much as it does that of a driver by giving feedback on the clubface at impact. No difference.
If you're a purist, just say so and we can have that debate. But don't try and say the SAME THING has some obvious justifying discrepancy. A stroke's just a short swing.
@@superque4 or we can all agree that you're bored and like being a dick on the internet. Fairly certain that bandwagon will fill quickly.
I’ve been wanting to put a putter grip on all my clubs for a long time, I’m not on tour so it wouldn’t matter. If you use an air compressor you can take the grips off and on real fast.
Please explain air compressor method!
@@nsj2kx shoot air through the hole on top of grip with quick spurts like a balloon
One year late.....so did you put a putter grip on the driver, and how did it work out?
@@chr970lol nope but I will some day :) The question is, if it’s the way to keep our club squared to the ball and more speed than why not make it legal? I say squared or hexagon grips would solve a lot of problems there’d be no more slipping in the hands by far for any level maybe. Too my knowledge I think the putter grips are to short or the wrong hole size. Just for fun I’ll look at it and if it can be done 🤔 but I’m pretty sure I looked into it already. I’m retired I’ll give it another shot. Thank you
Thank you sir I have been playing golf for 3 years now for the first 2 and a half years I shot a 121 now I'm shooting in the high 90s. Thanks again you ROCK!
Really interesting topic. I use mid-size as I have bigger hands? Daft rule would be, not being allowed to ground your club in a hazard. P
Isn't that ruled changed as of 2020? Meaning you are allowed to ground your club in a hazard?
@@jonnyfredriksson447 You are correct. I should learn to keep up. FYI we don't have any water hazards at Stirling Golf Club just a lot of trees. Thanks for your help. Paul
@@125spectrum Cheers Paul. And not a minute too soon was it changed. As long as you don't improve your lie this rule was pointless.
I noticed when I used jumbo grips I would hit it right. I had a set of Tiger Shark irons where the grips were different size. The longer the club the smaller the grip. I hit those clubs better than any clubs ever. That was almost 30 years ago
I guess it depends on how big your hands are🤷
Your STANDARD grip proved more consistent, possibly due to feeling “normal” as opposed to using a different thickness and causing a different and odd grip feel. Remember though the weight shift (increased gram weight) on the larger grips reduces the driver SWING WEIGHT. This accounts for it “feeling” lighter because of the counter balance in reduction of head weight, it may for average golfers reduce distance mostly due to the lower swing weight and club head speed, but in doing so for average players after they get used to the change may find more control.
The test revealed thicker grips reduced the ability for “loose” wrists and therefore balls going more right.
The test was very good but it may prove that as Bryson is reaching for new horizons, once you get used to the differences in feel, a thicker grip it may help certain players but I suspect not all... just remember fatter grips both reduce the freedom of wrist turn and reduced swing weight ... but if the gram weight can match the weight of your standard grip gram weight AND you adjust to the grip thickness ... you may be up to something that SOME GOLFERS ... not all ... may find beneficial ... BRYSON and TIME may reveal its effect!
One thing you can bet ... look out ... R&A & USGA will not like what just happened in the Open.
Bryson says he is going to try next a 48” driver !!!
But really the Super Stroke was just as consistent as the fat one minus on bad shot that made the dispersion ring that big. And his standard grip was also all over the place when compared to the bigger ones, so with a little fine tuning that fat grip would probably be the best for him (out of the legal ones).
I think it's ridiculous that the talking heads and old time golfers in the media, are talking about how golf courses are being overpowered. The fact that only one player at the US Open managed to stay under par tells me that skill and finesse are still extremely important. I'm a mid handicapper. I love seeing the elite golfers do things I will never achieve. It's why I watch any elite level athlete. So, why do the old farts want to reign them in? They're not using performance enhancing drugs, they're just playing better, after working really hard at it. Bryson's win should finally shut the mouths of those media types who mocked him on live TV for his physical and clearly mental gains.
It's like when the Fosbury flop was used for the first time in high jump. Everyone scoffed at first, until the competition got consistently destroyed.
He was 6th in off-tee distance. I don't see how it's a relevant measure. He was too good of the thick grass.
I use the jumbomax grip on my driver...they have an ultralight model that does not change the swing weight and that is what I use. Also, I wear a medium large glove and was told by the guys at jumbomax to try the small, which is plenty big for my hands. So, hand size will definitely affect the overall performance of the large grips also; you need to figure out what works best for you. BTW, I love being able to hit my driver as hard as I can and not fear going left and I'm hitting at least 10 yards longer on average.
I put a jumbo grip on my driver a few years ago and it works great for me. Much more relaxed, help me swing smoother
Ridiculous rules: Having to play a shot from a divot. Should be GUR.
100% agree!!!
good video - thumbs up...i recently went to a jumbo grip on all my clubs and it does take some time to assimilate...however, after several rounds, can't imagine going back to a regular grip...too skinny/thin...feels more comfortable and secure with bigger grips. regarding rules - if my friend lands in a gravel area...i always allow a drop in the grass as to NOT damage his clubs hitting off the gravel.
Get a grip of yourself Matt :-) Great insight. I find the thicker grip on my putter gives me more control and often wondered about a thicker grip on my driver.
This experiment was done along with many others relating to golf in the 70's, I think the book was called 'The search for the perfect swing' having read it I pretty much knew what you were going to find with the grip changes.
You need to be over a million subs your videos are amazing thankyou so much for all the information
Thank you for sharing your experience
I agree. Between him and Rick Shiels, these videos make my day.
I predicted that the larger grips would tend to pattern to the right. I expected them to also be a little shorter in distance. Not the case. Great video. We appreciate it.
Jumbo grips leads to needing a bigger golf bag. It's a tight fit with GP Jumbo grips in a standard carry bag.
I play the Jumbo Xl Grips are they are a nightmare to put back in the bag on the course!
Yes!
I use the JumboMax small, which are still bigger than the other grips on the market, but still fits bag pretty well
lol! I have sank a few putts with my driver. One time was for an eagle on a short par 4 to win a bet. And I use to have the small jumbomax grip on my driver and 3 wood. I felt like I could feel where the club head was a little better and It did improve my dispersion, but I noticed I seem to lose some distance. I think you should be able to use whatever grip you want on the driver.
Would be interesting to test a jumbo grip with a draw biased driver, to see if the dispersion is tighter and more centered
Good video. I like mid size on driver. Big enough to be snug and comfortable in the hand but not so big that it promotes the club face being left wide-open. Perfect balance.
Stupid golf rule: Not being able to take 1 mulligan per hole. How am I going to get to scratch then?
One mulligan each for the front 9 and
back 9,not transferable. That would be fair.
Like Hogan said take up fishing
Bought a new driver in June. The fitter convinced me to try a medium sized grip - whoa 🤩
I have now changed the grip on my 50° wedge (it was overdue) and to midsized - it works 👍
That's awesome and have a great day😀!
Tom Brøcher Jakobsen what did it do for you??
NYC Entrepreneur I’m 6’2” and the standard grip sometimes feels “thin”. I never thought about changing until he suggested it. I now feel that I have better control over the driver with the medium sized grip and now also with the wedge - will change the grips on the remaining clubs in the bag when I get the time to do it.
Would installing the putter grip slightly counter clockwise help in squaring up the club ?
Also did the club face feel more stable at impact with the jumbo max or putter grip?
It did for me, I accidently put a putter grip on my Topflite driver (only been golfing for a month or so, and have no concept on the rules) and it's a bit offset. I'm hitting that about 5x more consistently than my other driver (Talyormade M4) and it's funny, but pisses me off that my $40 driver is more consistent than my $350 driver 😂😂😂
Switched to Jumbomax STR8 XL a year ago. Everything is better. I have XXL hands and have always had an issue with griping the club too tightly - felt that the club would fly out of my hands.
The STR8 was an eye opener. I did their challenge, buy a set, install one and play. Wound up playing most of the round with my 7 iron. Fewer strokes when they are all in the fairway and solidly struck. Got home and changed the grips on the rest of my clubs. My wedges immediately became dart throwing scoring machines.
You mentioned rotating your wrists - I am really not conscious of that with my swing, I only want the feel of the back of my left hand pointing at the target through impact. These grips helped that a lot, I suspect because I no longer have the death grip on my sticks.
Stupid Rule - any penalty requiring distance AND a stroke. Except for the Professionals. Reason: A) This really slows down play for everyone behind you and B) you are already screwed enough. Stroke penalty, drop and play.
Worst rule easily is striping one in the middle of the fairway and landing in a divot. You should be awarded relief
Dr. John Moore x1000%
I disagree personally, the number 1 rule in golf is play the ball as it lies, hitting the green doesn’t guarantee you an easy putt, hitting the fairway doesn’t guarantee you a good lie. Just my opinion, what do you think?
Matt Robertson I understand but why have a nice cut short fairway, if the reward is hitting out of a 1" hole. Might as well mow it all at 2" high, then you won't get as many divots
@@nikej24 I think golf's not meant to be easy, you get good guys and bad lies and you take what you're given, that's the beauty of it, maybe we don't just ask for relief when it gets more difficult in my opinion. It can suck but when you it a good shot from a bad lie it's even better
Idealistically, these should be filled in with sand or dirt by players. "Divots" shouldn't really exist out on the fairways if everyone takes care of the golf course; a good habit to get into.
Back in the 60s I inherited a persimmon 3 wood that had a grip with a flat front. It was my favorite club in my teens and always wondered why I never saw another.
Great video. I'm game for a dumb rules video!
Getting plus 4 midsized grips put on my clubs as we speak :) super excited. Can't wait to play indoor leauge Thursday with my clubs e tended and new grips
Air Compressor, 2” masking tape. Grip Change in 30 seconds
2" masking tape only has glue on one side only. Might work if you swing speed is less than 70 mph. You start swinging that club hard and the grip will shift. LMAO.
Just saw your video. EXCELLENT work. Ive been in the golf and business for a LONG !!! time ... Your results happen for 99% of the people Ive worked with (Except putter grip ;) ) ... I do a lot of things with CobraTour and LITERALLY had a grip one on one with Bryson himself last time he was here at the Zurich. I've been using JumboMax XL ever since .. I'd love to chat with you about what you found and I'll tell you what he has to say ;) .... GREAT video. Larger grips on irons also have a unique result pattern.
The rule if you don't hit it past the front tees. :)
Anthony Beresford haha best comment. But rules are rules, I don't make them, I just enforce them.
#richardout!
LOL! My dad told me this once. I never knew where he got it from.
We call that a gash, it costs you $ too in our league
Don't make it past the lady's tee it costs you a jug
I just upsized to the oversized Winn Dry Tac Grip on my driver and 3 wood! I feel like I’m much more in control! So far it’s a great move!
There a saying,smart people talk about ideas,average people talk about events and dullards talk about people,shorty got some good ideas.
Another great video! One little tip though... buy yourself an air compressor (one with a tank) and get a nozzle gun fitting for it (Looks like a larger version of a needle fitting used for inflating footballs, basketballs etc). Cut a piece of pvc pipe (make sure it's a fairly snug fit over the golf grip), make it about 3/4 of the length of the grip, slide the pvc pipe over the grip when its on the club, stick the nozzle of the air compressor fitting into the end of the grip and let her rip. You will never have to cut and waste a grip ever again. I put a layer of tape on the shaft, blow a grip on and head straight out for a game, no waiting for solvent to dry. Best way by far, and doesn't give you that headache you can get after using solvent for long periods of time. P.s... You'll want the compressor to be able to deliver atleast 90Psi. Keep up the great videos, yet to see a bad one from you mate! Cheers from Western Australia. 👍
You need a grip removal tool! What about grip size/weight affect on swingweight?
I was literally getting ready to post this. I like my grip removal tool. I tried 3 grips for my driver and didn't hurt them when swapping them around.
Grip size and weight has no REAL impact on swingweight. Yes, you will get a different reading on the swingweight scale with a heavier or lighter grip but you are only 'tricking' the swingweight scale. The swingweight scale was developed with a standard 50 grams as the grip weight and to give a measurable value to how heavy the clubhead feels in the club set-up. Whilst a heavier or lighter grip effects the static weight of a club it doesn't effect head feel because you hinge the club from your hands.
I'm an older golfer (78) with arthritis. The jumbo grips made a huge difference. Play better and feel better. No more aching hands and fingers.
I have been moving all my grips up to a midsize super strike grip and it feels a lot more comfortable. I have a longer hand then most and the midsize give me more control with less grip strength. Thanks for the vid and I agree some of the rules are just plain dumb and almost psychotic.
Hey from a data perspective, Have a thought... with only 10 shots in each group you might want to take your best and worst shots out of each group. I bet the circles change a bunch. Cool video. When I was first starting out I basically had a death grip on my driver. Fitter set me up with a larger grip to take out the tension in my hands. This helped teach me to loosen up my grip to get the club face to close but my miss was always a fade/slice. After I learned what I needed to know about grip pressure (took forever for me to change) I dropped back to standard and with less tension the club face would release correctly. This whole experience helped me learn about grips tension and how to control the face through impact. Now I rarely slice and I’m turning the ball over for a nice draw when the tee shot requires it.
Great video man, cheers!
I play Midsize +4 with 3 layers of tape. It feels about half way to the oversize. If you use an air compressor and paper tape that has a rougher surface, then you can chop and change grips super quickly. They do not need to have adhesive. I have a 115+ swing speed on my driver and my grips don't budge. Love the content.
One rule I think should be changed, is the ability for players to wear shorts on the golf course. The woman can wear them on the LPGA.
I agree 100%
That's how they get people to watch the LPGA! 😁
I experimented by cutting my 3 & 4 rescues to the length of my 5. Hit much much better shots. New swing weight: B5, C5 & D2. Swing weight does nothing bad to my shots. Love my "new" rescues now. I am a 14.2 handicapper.
A larger grip actually fixed my driver slice. For the longest time I couldn’t figure out why my driver face would not close or square up at impact. I was using the drivers std size grip with tapered profile. Once I switched to Golf Pride mcc +4 With an additional tape wrap it corrected the slice. 2 theories for me: 1) either I was gripping way too hard because my grip was too small so i couldn’t release or 2) on my downswing my driver would twist and slip in my hands.
My theory is it’s all in the down swing because the number on reason most people slice is cause the leave the club face open and I can bet that having a bigger grip will help you by making it easier to close the face on the down swing acting like a leaver but with it being bigger and your hand open more it makes the club roll over in your hand easier that’s my theory
I have a Super Stroke 5.0 on my putter & the flat side is turned to the right side, for a flat side on my right hand. Also, have JumboMax grips (XL) on my woods & adding to my irons for Christmas. Slows down my active hands. They are awesome.
"You can't take relief from a divot." Ridiculous.
Divot should be consider ground under repair.
Totally agree. Stupidest rule.
So true! If you hit the fairway you should be rewarded with a good lie. Hit off of the fairway and you’re penalized. The divot rule makes no sense to me.
It’s called “rub of the green”. So a tree knocks your errant shot back in the fairway. Is that fair? Yes it is for both situations.
💯 agree
I use a super stroke grip on my putter and I feeling love it! It fills me with confidence then the smaller grips
This is funny because Bryson won the us open with thick grips, excited to watch, and have a great day😀! I think that a stupid rule is the 3 minute look for a ball rule. I think it should go back to 5 minutes🏌️♂️.
No marshals make them look for their ball just like we have to look for ours if it goes in the shit and you can't find it that's a stroke
Marshall’s should help them find the ball
I enjoyed the comparisons of gross, but do wish you could have included mid sized groups as well. It would have been interesting to see the difference between jumbo, mid and standard grips. A shaft vice and air pump helps removing the grips without damage and installation.
This is like watching 'The Fonze' teaching you golf - we all want to be The Fonze.
I have a driver on an old Cobra set with a super stroke grip. I liked it.
I use oversized grips on all my clubs
As far as the dumb rules of golf go...if your playing partner has you move your ball mark, it should be the person who requests the mark to be moved that has the responsibility (not just common courtesy) to make sure the mark gets moved back and incur a penalty if it’s not.
Thanks for the demonstration. I have often wondered the same ideas.
Should invest is an air compressor, coulda blown those grips on and off with no solvent . Looking forward to the rules video
I got a compressor, and I use JumboMax grips, believe me, you need liquid on the tape to get that grip on. I use the jelled hand sanitizers instead of solvent, it stays wet longer while you get the grip on, and a lot cheaper than the solvent!
Wow! This is a very cool video MSG because I started trying out using Jumbomax LG on my irons and XL on the woods and hybrid last summer and they helped improve my confidence and distance on each of my club about 15-20 yds. It convinced me after I hit a large bucket of balls with just a 7 iron and PW that i could control my club face better. A lot of teaching pros and a lot of tournament players i talked to didn't really like the idea but it worked out for me and now i am very happy with my game and feel i have a better chance in the competition. I even put the round jumbo LG on my putter and hopefully, it is legal in competition cos the guy who installed it said it is legal 😃. I saw the same ball patterns similar to your testing and just worked on how to hold my grip and let it ripped and it would go farther than my regular grip that i used to hit. The coolest thing was i didn't feel like i swung hard at all. It may not work for everyone but i wish they would put the big grip on a demo so golfers would get a chance to try it out first. Just a word of caution, i would recommend not to change all your grip at once because after you hit with the big grip, you can mess up when you go back to using your regular grip. I am so glad to see this video and thank you so much for making this clip MSG!. Cannot wait to see what you have next 😃👍👍👍
Pros not allowed to wear shorts while playing is the dumbest rule in golf by far.
But women can wear skirts.... So sexist!
That's not a rule of golf. It's PGA Tour mandated
Ron Perrone he said pros...
Regarding shorts....you should: play as it lies
Yeah, let' 'em wear shorts. Oh yeah, and let 'em ride the golf carts too. Yeah. Let's pamper them. Yeah!
Changed to GP MCC4 Midsize. Clubs feel so much better now. There is the issue of weight to take into account. Didn’t realize how the extra weight affects your club…just make sure to take it into account.
We should have protested the US Open with “All grips matter” signs.
hahaha Very Good! Lincoln would approve
I have changed my grip to a midsize one and I’ve only played two rounds but am hitting it longer and starter than before .also I have shortened my backswing 👍
What if my driver identifies as a putter
Definitely my favorite Golf RUclipsr.
Love your stuff.
A stupid golf rules video would be too long for the RUclips platform. You'd have to launch a Netflix series.
Nice video!
I put a jumbomax ultralite on my driver and fairway wood about 6wks ago- has been a success so far. The consistent ball flight i get on my fairway wood is so far from the crapshoot i use to get. Driver has been better than my normal grip, but not the lightswitch like fairway wood. I have the size small on fairway and medium on driver. Will be switching to small size on driver.
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Anyone else remember the "gripless" driver shafts.?.?
The too-thin = everything right finding goes against most that I have heard about club fitting where the too-big for you grip will prevent hand rotation and exaggerate the slice.
There are ton of grip manufacturers that are doing a less tapered grip for the 'swinging clubs" and have even seen "reverse tapered" grips from Enlow Golf at a trade show which surprisingly felt good and super intriguing, but not enough to commit to the entire set.
i have tried re-gripping my putter a few times this way (flat side facing target). It was ok, albeit odd (though I liked the "2 Thumbs grip" more this way), for my left-hand low set-up. Mentally, helped with preventing wrist break and keeping putterhead on line.
Dumb rule , not being allowed to move your ball from a divot or sand trap that wasnt racked and sitting in a foot print. I use mid size grips allows me less pressure and feels more solid.
If you paid your electric bill we might be able to see you lol
Exactly, if you pure a drive straight down you shouldn’t get punished, it’s not your fault someone didn’t fix their divot.
@@thechado7868 than fix your divots
@@jpgolf9729 agree
@@jpgolf9729 we pay to play on grass and not in holes, some of which can be should be considered as ground under repair.
Matt, I can't believe how your video's have helped me. Thanks,
Not being allowed to get relief from a fairway divot, drives me nuts 🥜
Great video. The Jumbomax grip that you were using is intended to be used by someone who wears a xxl golf glove. The rule of fitting for the jumbomax grip is to fit a grip one size down from your glove size. I use a large Jumbomax Grip in my Driver as I wear a XL glove and these grips work. The only issue I have is from the people who won’t break with traditional (especially here in the U.K.) Who frown and ridicule me. But I have the last laugh when they hand over their money in the clubhouse after the game! 👍👍
I hate that rule where you have to take a stroke for hitting a ball into the water. #LegalizeFreeDrops
My only thought to the super stroke is the adjustable weights. Thanks for the idea!
Why aren’t there par 6’s and 7’s?.... I’d love to see something crazy like a par 10
We have a par 6 at Black Mountain Golf Course, 747 yards.
I think eventually it will get to that with the game advancing. I even picture the holes being in nearly impossible locations to make the game harder