Amazing! In my previous military life, I competed in and navigated many of the military’s toughest land nav courses and had a lot of training. However, I don’t remember ever being taught the clock face/rosette feature you described for orienting the map. This may be the coolest and most useful map tip I’ve ever seen.
@7:12 put the hole over your target and make sure the sides of the protractor run parallel to the grit square, then you can read the exact numbers at the right and top scale without moving the protractor again - even faster than your method. @11:00 Put the rosette on a piece of clear plastic with a permanent marker and carry it with your map - in case it's needed, just place the 12/12 line on the north/south grit line. This way you keep your maps completely usable and you can use it with every map you get hold of.
This method works great for plotting a gris to a known point but not so well when finding a given grid to an unknown point so it works both ways for sure.
I love Nav exercises, I just ran my Scouts through a basic map reading and navigation night, it was awesome seeing the light bulbs turn on. Can't wait till we can do a night Nav lesson.
This is one of the most useful things to know before you hit the trails or woods.. I’ve been watching lots of Army videos explaining land navigation and it can be difficult at first but a great tool to have.. learned some great tips in this video!
Hi Dave been a fan for a very long time and was a former Scout Master and have taught navigation. I must say I have not heard this but is a far easier system to understand than traditional. I have learned something very appreciative of you sharing these tips. Because of my health I may not ever use this but if that situation would happen as a Scout motto ( be prepared).
Dave, I became a fan while watching the survival show. Seeing the difference in survival techniques. I always felt like your go at surviving was real deal, made sense. Your knowledge applies to all terrain. Thanks for still being real.
These were all really nice tips. I especially liked the "solar compass" being added to the map. It's also interesting to see the size/terrain of the pathfinder school.
Thank you so much for taking away from your time to make this video..it is greatly appreciated by me in this critical time.im trying to cram and learn all i can on this as fast as possible.ive been traveling with an elder across country but we are having to move slowly.through many interestingly diverse places..once again THANK YOU..to all of you there..soon enough we will be back in the beloved eastern woodlands where we all call home once again..I personally when he is comfortable i will sign up and take a course at your school..GOD bless you and all your family.
Hi Dave thank you for your knowledge and expertise and everything you do for the little guy to give us the tools and knowledge for us get out and do what we have to do to be prepared
The corner ruler that you were using is designed to put the corner circle over the objective and then read the distance on both sides with one movement. It is just like any other roamer except that it is used upside down.
If you use a “invisible” anti theft marker pen then your writing/markings don’t confuse or mess up your map in daylight, but under blue light become very visible at night! Nice job as always brother. Best wishes 👍🏽👍🏽😎
Morning Dave. I’ll have to apologize. I’m a 12 year Army Vet, Scouts and Armor and have done dozens of adventure racing races and have done thousands of land nav in both.....but for the life of me I see zero difference in what you said between the military grid protractor and the “speed” grid adventure racing protractor. Maybe I just need a stronger cup of coffee at this early hour. Great stuff overall and big fan. God bless from southern Missouri.
Thank you Dave. I self taught myself 8 digit nav when i bought 3 types of map tools (many scales) from Corporals corner's amazon influencer page, but thanks to you now i know what scale map to buy. plus, i always wanted to know what was that red circle w/ degree marks were on grey beard beret's map was. thanks to you now i know. i wish you didnt take down the videos bout finding distance with a compass, glad i took notes when you shared your wisdom bec i still know n refer back to my notes. im not in the woods yet bec of the wheelchair. but , on my bucket list, i want to kayak around a local island. im waiting to find a buddy bec safety is no. 1. i dont go alone n be on the show "i should not be alive" or my bucket list be my bucket. plz ask God to heal me.
I switched from 1:24000 to 1:10000 and man what a difference it makes. Question, what is the benefit of using a protractor. I've never used one. Only a compass.
Do you teach to use a 180 degree plastic protractor (like kids use in school) to get an azimuth if the need arises? Works well enough in combination with the sun. They weigh nothing and cost practically nothing also. If you know solar noon for your area, it can possibly solve declination issues. ?
Hey Dave question for ya? I notice a lot of state parks or conservation areas provide you maps free but they are not designed for navigation. How can you take a map like that and convert it to use with a compass to navigate. It may not be possible but if it is I think it would be a good skill to have? Love your vids and I got my scout canteen today am I can’t wait to take it out for a day hike
Ive noticed a lot of MyTopo's maps are several decades old in my area (one was 1992). Have you noticed that to be a problem? And do you know where to get newer topo maps?
Never seen one of those adventure racing squares for doing grid coordinates. From first looks of your method, I would think that putting the hole in the 2 perpendicular rulers on the spot on your map you want the grid coordinate. Using the fact that the ruler is square, pivot the ruler so that the edges are parallel to the grid square lines on the map. Then direct read off the two numbers from each ruler for the remaining coordinates.
Hello! I have a question, I want to get maps from my topo but it won’t preview the map before purchasing, i’m wondering if your using some sort of app or software to make the map and then have it printed by my topo?
Ok sir I have a few questions, first you printed your map off mytopo what size paper do you recommend to use when printing off the maps? Second do you teach just a orienteering class? Great info I've watched most of your vids on map navigation have learned alot but still confused on alot but I will persevere in the end. Thanks for all the great info as always hope your doing well and can't wait til your next video
I got a map from the USGS, and evidently grid north (mercator projection) is not the same as true north on this map. It's showing Magnetic north at a 10 degree west declination from true north, and grid north 1 degree east of true north. Does that mean when I adjust the declination on my compass I have to subtract the 1 degree difference of grid to true from the 10 degree magnetic declination (so in other words adjust the declination on the compass only 9 degrees west), in order to be able to use the vertical grid lines as "north", and have it actually correspond with an accurate compass reading? I don't understand why they would give the magnetic declination on the map from true north if it differs from the gridlines. To me that means when I route plan from map, the angles are going to be off the difference between grid and true north.
I appreciate your information. It works under the current geological settings and magnetic field. Have you considered that the magnetic field is now weakening and will most likely flip very soon. The high number of earthquakes are causing the earth to tilt off the 23° as the Inuit have been trying to warn the world for near 30 years. What I'm trying to say is 'the earth will change soon. mountains will move and oceans will flood the land. Where there is fields, there will be hills, where there was mountains there will be ocean. The earth will flip upsidedown and everything will be moved out of place.' The current maps will be useless. 🤷
I always sucked at land navigation in the military I use to cheat everytime we had a class It's not that can't read a math or find grid on a map it was always the math conversion from true north to magnetic north that always stumped me. And don't get me started on azimuths People in military are notorious for straight azimuths because no one has the time to math their way anywhere.
I think most people have died because they've tried to navigate rather than staying put & waiting for the rescue. Stay put, make fire🔥 & huge smoke. Wonder about & you'll dehydrate, & get further lost. Don't fuck around with real life 🥱 because 1 mistake & you end up 5miles lost, 2 mistakes 10miles further.
@David Caterbury Don't waste your time drawing a 24 hours clock. Use a 24 hour stamp instead : stampsupplies.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/2910_720x600-300x300.jpg
Amazing! In my previous military life, I competed in and navigated many of the military’s toughest land nav courses and had a lot of training. However, I don’t remember ever being taught the clock face/rosette feature you described for orienting the map. This may be the coolest and most useful map tip I’ve ever seen.
Morning Dave glad to see your well, your videos are like podcasts give me some stuff to look forward to.
Excellent tips as always! Navigation is indeed a specialty at the Pathfinder School.
Clock rosette was new to me. Excellent.
@7:12 put the hole over your target and make sure the sides of the protractor run parallel to the grit square, then you can read the exact numbers at the right and top scale without moving the protractor again - even faster than your method.
@11:00 Put the rosette on a piece of clear plastic with a permanent marker and carry it with your map - in case it's needed, just place the 12/12 line on the north/south grit line.
This way you keep your maps completely usable and you can use it with every map you get hold of.
This method works great for plotting a gris to a known point but not so well when finding a given grid to an unknown point so it works both ways for sure.
I love Nav exercises, I just ran my Scouts through a basic map reading and navigation night, it was awesome seeing the light bulbs turn on. Can't wait till we can do a night Nav lesson.
This is one of the most useful things to know before you hit the trails or woods.. I’ve been watching lots of Army videos explaining land navigation and it can be difficult at first but a great tool to have.. learned some great tips in this video!
Hi Dave been a fan for a very long time and was a former Scout Master and have taught navigation. I must say I have not heard this but is a far easier system to understand than traditional. I have learned something very appreciative of you sharing these tips. Because of my health I may not ever use this but if that situation would happen as a Scout motto ( be prepared).
Dave, I became a fan while watching the survival show. Seeing the difference in survival techniques. I always felt like your go at surviving was real deal, made sense. Your knowledge applies to all terrain. Thanks for still being real.
These were all really nice tips. I especially liked the "solar compass" being added to the map. It's also interesting to see the size/terrain of the pathfinder school.
Hey, Dave thanks for the wisdom. Always good to be enlightened.
Thank you so much for taking away from your time to make this video..it is greatly appreciated by me in this critical time.im trying to cram and learn all i can on this as fast as possible.ive been traveling with an elder across country but we are having to move slowly.through many interestingly diverse places..once again THANK YOU..to all of you there..soon enough we will be back in the beloved eastern woodlands where we all call home once again..I personally when he is comfortable i will sign up and take a course at your school..GOD bless you and all your family.
Hi Dave thank you for your knowledge and expertise and everything you do for the little guy to give us the tools and knowledge for us get out and do what we have to do to be prepared
Some good tips again. I like the map rosette idea. Thanks. Cheers.
More bushcraft cooking and journal of the yurt style videos please
Awesome Tips / Ideas Brother. Especially liked the pre marking the grid. Never thought of it. Keep the videos coming.
Great video Dave! God bless you and your family.
Nice refresher, thanks for the video Dave.
The corner ruler that you were using is designed to put the corner circle over the objective and then read the distance on both sides with one movement. It is just like any other roamer except that it is used upside down.
If you use a “invisible” anti theft marker pen then your writing/markings don’t confuse or mess up your map in daylight, but under blue light become very visible at night! Nice job as always brother. Best wishes 👍🏽👍🏽😎
Morning Dave. I’ll have to apologize. I’m a 12 year Army Vet, Scouts and Armor and have done dozens of adventure racing races and have done thousands of land nav in both.....but for the life of me I see zero difference in what you said between the military grid protractor and the “speed” grid adventure racing protractor. Maybe I just need a stronger cup of coffee at this early hour. Great stuff overall and big fan. God bless from southern Missouri.
Its just upside down really
Thank you Dave. I self taught myself 8 digit nav when i bought 3 types of map tools (many scales) from Corporals corner's amazon influencer page, but thanks to you now i know what scale map to buy. plus, i always wanted to know what was that red circle w/ degree marks were on grey beard beret's map was. thanks to you now i know. i wish you didnt take down the videos bout finding distance with a compass, glad i took notes when you shared your wisdom bec i still know n refer back to my notes. im not in the woods yet bec of the wheelchair. but , on my bucket list, i want to kayak around a local island. im waiting to find a buddy bec safety is no. 1. i dont go alone n be on the show "i should not be alive" or my bucket list be my bucket. plz ask God to heal me.
Good to see you again, I just subscribed, last thing I saw was the goats, will comment again, you are a very good instructor
Awesome tips Dave thanks so much for the video
Thanks for so many navigation tips in the video and comments. And always carry at least 2 compasses. They're small and don't eat much.
Love mytopo you can customized maps. You can add a lot of options. Make it water proof, have it were you can use erase dry.
Thanks for the video.
Hope to see some new trapping
videos when your season happens
Great information Dave! Thank you for sharing
Thanks Dave, very helpful!!!!
Thank you. Awesome video.
Much appreciated Dave!
Great Stuff Mr. Dave.
Well I will be darned.🤔 Good Ole Dave. Top class educational entertainment as always. Thanks man! 😎👍
Excellent information. Just learned so much I wasn't aware of using a map. Great video. Thanks
Forgot to ask, your analog watch choice?
Yup yup, good shit bro. Gunna memorize this.
What protractor should I buy? Thank you
Hello from Detroit Michigan
Dave, great info and great video!!!!!!!!!
Right on Dave!
Very useful information Dave.
I switched from 1:24000 to 1:10000 and man what a difference it makes. Question, what is the benefit of using a protractor. I've never used one. Only a compass.
lookin good man! stay at it
Dave, obrigado por mais esse video.
With that time rose orientation how do you know you're not orienting it to the South instead of the North?
Bushcraft 101 book 📚 is awesome.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge Sir 👍👌.
Do you teach to use a 180 degree plastic protractor (like kids use in school) to get an azimuth if the need arises? Works well enough in combination with the sun. They weigh nothing and cost practically nothing also. If you know solar noon for your area, it can possibly solve declination issues. ?
Great info yet again! Ty!
Thanks Dave
Hey Dave question for ya? I notice a lot of state parks or conservation areas provide you maps free but they are not designed for navigation. How can you take a map like that and convert it to use with a compass to navigate. It may not be possible but if it is I think it would be a good skill to have? Love your vids and I got my scout canteen today am I can’t wait to take it out for a day hike
Ive noticed a lot of MyTopo's maps are several decades old in my area (one was 1992). Have you noticed that to be a problem? And do you know where to get newer topo maps?
Great video
Dave try break cleaner on a corner of your board to clean it.
Or copious amounts of Isopropanol.
Thank you
Never seen one of those adventure racing squares for doing grid coordinates. From first looks of your method, I would think that putting the hole in the 2 perpendicular rulers on the spot on your map you want the grid coordinate. Using the fact that the ruler is square, pivot the ruler so that the edges are parallel to the grid square lines on the map. Then direct read off the two numbers from each ruler for the remaining coordinates.
Thats correct I was just showing the process to find a location for a given grid at the same time
Maps is definitely one of my weak areas. At least I know my weaknesses. I guess I need to go back to your earliers classes.
Thanks very much.
Hello! I have a question, I want to get maps from my topo but it won’t preview the map before purchasing, i’m wondering if your using some sort of app or software to make the map and then have it printed by my topo?
Thanks man that was awesome.
Thanks !!!
Where can I get 1: 50,000 contour maps?
Looking good brother. Hooah!
Ok sir I have a few questions, first you printed your map off mytopo what size paper do you recommend to use when printing off the maps? Second do you teach just a orienteering class? Great info I've watched most of your vids on map navigation have learned alot but still confused on alot but I will persevere in the end. Thanks for all the great info as always hope your doing well and can't wait til your next video
I heard Lt is still trying to find the playlist.
Great, but please budget for some whiteboard cleaner, or maybe a new whiteboard.
Hey Dave what state is your school in
Ohio.
His main school is in south east Ohio.
Hello from Nevada
Cool..
I got a map from the USGS, and evidently grid north (mercator projection) is not the same as true north on this map. It's showing Magnetic north at a 10 degree west declination from true north, and grid north 1 degree east of true north. Does that mean when I adjust the declination on my compass I have to subtract the 1 degree difference of grid to true from the 10 degree magnetic declination (so in other words adjust the declination on the compass only 9 degrees west), in order to be able to use the vertical grid lines as "north", and have it actually correspond with an accurate compass reading? I don't understand why they would give the magnetic declination on the map from true north if it differs from the gridlines. To me that means when I route plan from map, the angles are going to be off the difference between grid and true north.
Seems to me like you're getting high-tech like, but with your approach it actually makes better sense.
👍
I appreciate your information. It works under the current geological settings and magnetic field.
Have you considered that the magnetic field is now weakening and will most likely flip very soon. The high number of earthquakes are causing the earth to tilt off the 23° as the Inuit have been trying to warn the world for near 30 years.
What I'm trying to say is 'the earth will change soon. mountains will move and oceans will flood the land. Where there is fields, there will be hills, where there was mountains there will be ocean.
The earth will flip upsidedown and everything will be moved out of place.'
The current maps will be useless. 🤷
I always sucked at land navigation in the military
I use to cheat everytime we had a class
It's not that can't read a math or find grid on a map it was always the math conversion from true north to magnetic north that always stumped me.
And don't get me started on azimuths
People in military are notorious for straight azimuths because no one has the time to math their way anywhere.
👍😛
I only heard cicadas...
I think most people have died because they've tried to navigate rather than staying put & waiting for the rescue. Stay put, make fire🔥 & huge smoke. Wonder about & you'll dehydrate, & get further lost. Don't fuck around with real life 🥱 because 1 mistake & you end up 5miles lost, 2 mistakes 10miles further.
@David Caterbury Don't waste your time drawing a 24 hours clock. Use a 24 hour stamp instead : stampsupplies.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/2910_720x600-300x300.jpg
R u 👌 Dave u look tired as hell or just a little bit under the weather
FIRST!!!