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I've been out of the Army for over 20 years and haven't done land nav since. I'm so grateful you put this on here. Pat Mac you are a great teacher ..keep it up man
I've been in the army national guard for 6 years and the army reserves for a little over a year, I can confirm that we still do fundamental old school land nav. Its still a thing!
😂 national guard reserves 😂😂😂😂😂 you’re not fooling no one. All you need to know is where the armory is and what time is lunch and the time you get off .
@@joseh9021I know more guard dudes that do more then active lmfao Active dudes just stay in dorms and have a bed time … national guard usually gets the same amount of training as active in the 2-5 days a month (ps most active units can’t deploy … national guard deploys more) the best shooters are National guard inside the army look up the stats
What most civilians don't understand is that GPS can be spoofed (false signals or interference caused by a land based transmitter). Military grade GPS equipment can't be spoofed but if you don't have access to that gear, map and compass is your only other option.
I could have used this skill when I got lost on a nature hike in brown county Indiana way back in 98 😂 actually learned something and I’m waiting for the 2nd part…
I retired in 2017 from the military and the one thing I remember is that even in the military, it was always hard to find a good Land Nav Instructor. Land Nav is a very difficult subject to teach. Thanks for making this easy to understand Pat Mac!
Omg Pat Mac is such a Wicked Awesome teacher , I have to buy him some beers when he comes to Boston! CHEERS PAT , THANK YOU FOR ALL THESE BAD ASS VIDEOS 🤘 ROCK AND ROLL
Great info/refresher that all patriots should know. I am a firm believer in being able to accomplish things w/o tech. I hv started teaching this and a host of others to my 4yr old granddaughter. Jump Tough Pat Mac!
I try and stay ontop of these basic skill i learned in the military over 20 some yrs ago. PAT you make it simple to focus and execute. Great instruction. Keep up the basic dude stuff! 🙏🤙
It's important for boaters as well. I learned how to use a sextant many years ago, but a skill I try to refresh myself with on an annual basis. Bowditch is a great reference for all boaters.
Thank you!!! I’ve got 8 or more books on it and watched courses and videos and each time you explained something those fragments accumulated from all the info ingested started to connect and now I understand!
This is epic real land now training you don't get that in basic b******* schools in the army or any of the services you are a special selected person to be in a career field that requires that, I am Air Force I am a boom operator Air Force guy so we did this and it was awesome thanks Pat and crew you guys are a tight crew and I appreciate what you do
Apparently, you are completely unaware of the Volunteer Search and Rescue Community in North American, where this is standard basic training. Well at least you mentioned declination (but you did not address that in relation to the declination settings on a compass). In Canada, we are trained to do this without the protractor. Thank you for showing the pacing. It stumps a lot of people. We call the'Ranger beads' Pacing beads.
Well explained and delivered! You done a great job of combining everything together making it usable. I like the bead on the leather cord to count a 100m distance! Impressive delivery! Thanks for the video!
This is valuable knowledge to keep stowed in back of your noodle. Better to have it and not need it. Then to need it and not have it. Thank you Mr. Mac
I use vegetative growth - in the northern hemisphere most of the branches on the trees are leaning toward South. Photosynthesis keeps me from getting “lost”.
My unit used to do land nav regularly especially on UDP’s. I prided myself on finishing first or at the top every time. The team that finished first would get a day off and it was nice to get it! Thank you Mac for the refresher.
Awesome to see this. Ft. Drum was terrible for land-nav; little terrain features and lots of swap. Nothing more fun than rucking a full LLVI loadout and having a "smart" leader shooting a straight line through the swamp to "save time" lol.
Great job. My last land nav was at Camp Shelby in 1987 with the Seabees. The only thing I had forgotten was the LARS rule. Can't wait to see the next video.
A much needed refresher course for me. I believe knowing at least some basic navigation skills is just as important as learning how to swim...ya never know when!
First day lunch. Scrap Yard Been unloading construction bins, separating cast iron/aluminum/copper spun motors/steel, tangled inn chain and clothes hangers, standing inn 6 inches of water. Each piece from the rear differential, to the tiny bolt must be isolated to produce the finest American metals, and tank armor, aircraft wing.
Land Nav was my favorite Military/Infantry SKill I learned it in High school J.R.O.T.C. it gives us the warrior the confidence to be able to think through problems in any Lost in the woods scenario. it's good stuff basic Land Nav is awesome it needs to always be an essential skill in the U.S. Army and U.S. Marine Corps Regardless of technology.
Always wanted to learn land nav skills. Great teaching skills, Mac! Made it easy for me to understand! I'm always hungry for more knowledge! I love this channel!
This is making its way back into our military culture with the new expert soldier badge. This incentivizes the mastery of the basics: Land nav Medical lanes Weapon proficiency General combat drills and reports SKL, Radio and dagr utilization
This is a great refresher on land navigation that's not electronic. These days everyone is relying on electronic navigation, and not using the good old fashioned maps that can be bought in a store. The way you think is excellent if shit were to hit the fan.
hallelujah!!! Pat is on the money with this issue. I learned in Alabama in the summer of 1990 to do land nav in basic and AIT. This is before GPS was prevalent. Thank God those senior NCO's trained me using a map and compass and ranger beads!!!!
His training a spot on is the best instructor for this I feel, better than the ones I had in sear aircrew air force, that experience was great but didn't do a lot of basic land Nav.... I picked up the skill later in years doing rescue and other apps as a civilian /other ...lol...
@@bsellman6881 There are several videos of Pat as a civilian teaching soldiers. I don't think they understand how absolutely cool and awesome that would be. He is an excellent teacher.
thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge with us!!! i know enough bout this to be dangerous!!! LOL but learning all i can on how to do it while the electronics are still up & running!!!
This video brought back many memories from my younger days. To many people just don’t get it. I will admit that I have gotten used to using electronic but if needed I can still read and use a map (road and Topo)!
We had to use land navigation up in Bridgeport, CA during Mountain Communications course. Before that we spent a full day going over land nav and all of the details associated. It's a dying art.
With technology l saw people using their phones to try to navigate through the woods. When SHTF just my opinion is that it could be also used to track you. My phone will be ditched. This is a good video and l agree it is a dying art. 👍🏻
In the 90s we still used map and compass in the CAF, Ill be honest I got damn lazy and use gps now and seeing this Im digging out the old gear and hitting the maps again still have an idea of it of course not totally forgotten, but most important for me Im not confident in my ability to nav accurately
Excellent information. I definitely needed this refresher (and much more still!) so I can start teaching my son. I had forgotten that Grid North is something different in the mix.
Maybe I'm a traditionalist, but I definitely feel that if you're going out into the backcountry or off trail with just a GPS (or even just your phone!), you're asking for trouble. Batteries die, signal gets lost or refracts giving an inaccurate fix, devices get lost or broken, and most important of all you don't actually have full awareness of your environment (especially as it relates to navigating), because you've just been blindly following a GPS. It's definitely nice to have a GPS so you can double-check things, be very accurate and quick when you need to know exactly where you are, etc., but in my mind it definitely shouldn't be relied upon.
Idk if i'll ever handle a gun... but this... this i can learn and apply! Genuinely enjoyed this! I miss my tween years geography and earth science classes. Pat's an awesome teacher!
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I've been out of the Army for over 20 years and haven't done land nav since. I'm so grateful you put this on here. Pat Mac you are a great teacher ..keep it up man
Only been 5 for me and I still needed this.
Technology will prove to be our downfall...
No matter how good you are or were at land nav getting a refresher is always good!
I've been in the army national guard for 6 years and the army reserves for a little over a year, I can confirm that we still do fundamental old school land nav. Its still a thing!
😂 national guard reserves 😂😂😂😂😂 you’re not fooling no one. All you need to know is where the armory is and what time is lunch and the time you get off .
@@joseh9021 Never thought when I Was 16 and RUclips and Facebook started popping off I would see older vets gatekeeping and dogging each other LOL
@@joseh9021lmao like active duty is any different. Just add BS duties like KP, cleaning shitters etc
@@joseh9021I know more guard dudes that do more then active lmfao
Active dudes just stay in dorms and have a bed time … national guard usually gets the same amount of training as active in the 2-5 days a month (ps most active units can’t deploy … national guard deploys more) the best shooters are National guard inside the army look up the stats
What most civilians don't understand is that GPS can be spoofed (false signals or interference caused by a land based transmitter). Military grade GPS equipment can't be spoofed but if you don't have access to that gear, map and compass is your only other option.
Respect sent from North New Mexico SAR . Thanks
This is great. The best beginners video I was able to find
I loved being my platoon's navigator. Semper Fi
Straight forward, not over complicated and spoken in lamens terms for a novice to understand immediately. Awesome work boss!
Passing on knowledge. Basic dude stuff. 🤘🏻
Pat you are an awesome teacher. Thanks for this video! "Polaris!"
I’m on a hotshot crew with the USFS, awesome refresher. Going to teach my wife once I’m back home from this fire!
I could have used this skill when I got lost on a nature hike in brown county Indiana way back in 98 😂 actually learned something and I’m waiting for the 2nd part…
IU grad. I know this place.
Awesome video for a novice who wants to learn these things. It's like learning how to fight, the more you learn, the more confidence grows.
Thanks for the refresher Pat Mac!!
Pat really is absolute mastery of the basics. No bullshit just unadulterated skill.
I retired in 2017 from the military and the one thing I remember is that even in the military, it was always hard to find a good Land Nav Instructor. Land Nav is a very difficult subject to teach. Thanks for making this easy to understand Pat Mac!
Nice job. I was able to understand an put in to practice with your video. Explained real well. Thx
FYSA, Land Nav is now being added back into the Army's NCO Basic Leader Course. It's a much needed reintroduction.
Never miss the opportunity to be your own batman.
Instructions unclear I killed my parents, and I'm not a billionaire.
Thanks for the awesome video Pat.
Good stuff. It’s actually scary how devolved land navigation instincts are in everyone.
Omg Pat Mac is such a Wicked Awesome teacher , I have to buy him some beers when he comes to Boston! CHEERS PAT , THANK YOU FOR ALL THESE BAD ASS VIDEOS 🤘 ROCK AND ROLL
Great info/refresher that all patriots should know. I am a firm believer in being able to accomplish things w/o tech. I hv started teaching this and a host of others to my 4yr old granddaughter. Jump Tough Pat Mac!
I try and stay ontop of these basic skill i learned in the military over 20 some yrs ago. PAT you make it simple to focus and execute. Great instruction.
Keep up the basic dude stuff! 🙏🤙
Valuable information. Thanks Pat.
Man I love when you do navigation videos. I'm a land surveyor and you're correct, map navigation is dying, also in my trade. Keep'em coming bro!
It's important for boaters as well. I learned how to use a sextant many years ago, but a skill I try to refresh myself with on an annual basis. Bowditch is a great reference for all boaters.
man i feel dumb. i have watched this 2 times now. another dozen or so and i may catch on.
Thank you!!! I’ve got 8 or more books on it and watched courses and videos and each time you explained something those fragments accumulated from all the info ingested started to connect and now I understand!
One of my favorite videos! Looking forward to the rest of this series.
I needed this refresher. Haven't done real land nav in 10 years
Brings back map reading days thanks for the very needs refresher coarse PAT signed lost in the woods!!!!
I think all this "Sergeant's time" training is great. Keep it up please👍👍
This is epic real land now training you don't get that in basic b******* schools in the army or any of the services you are a special selected person to be in a career field that requires that, I am Air Force I am a boom operator Air Force guy so we did this and it was awesome thanks Pat and crew you guys are a tight crew and I appreciate what you do
Awesome as always
You did a excellent job of making it simple for beginners
You didn’t overload with to much at once
Absolutely great video. I love this foundational knowledge. So close to magic
From South Africa,
Thank you Pat Mac.
Apparently, you are completely unaware of the Volunteer Search and Rescue Community in North American, where this is standard basic training.
Well at least you mentioned declination (but you did not address that in relation to the declination settings on a compass).
In Canada, we are trained to do this without the protractor.
Thank you for showing the pacing. It stumps a lot of people. We call the'Ranger beads' Pacing beads.
Thank you Pat.
Thank you Pat
Well explained and delivered! You done a great job of combining everything together making it usable. I like the bead on the leather cord to count a 100m distance! Impressive delivery! Thanks for the video!
This is valuable knowledge to keep stowed in back of your noodle. Better to have it and not need it. Then to need it and not have it. Thank you Mr. Mac
One of the more important videos you have ever done 👍.
This dude is a badass. I'll bet he chews snuff while he drinks his coffee. Badass!!!
Thanks Mac.
Thanks for the video PM!
The best class I’ve seen so far!
Excellent brother!!! Vital stuff, metal up!!!
Ahhh.... the fun stuff revisited!! How about some night land nav??
I use vegetative growth - in the northern hemisphere most of the branches on the trees are leaning toward South.
Photosynthesis keeps me from getting “lost”.
Dude this was amazing
My unit used to do land nav regularly especially on UDP’s. I prided myself on finishing first or at the top every time. The team that finished first would get a day off and it was nice to get it! Thank you Mac for the refresher.
Awesome to see this. Ft. Drum was terrible for land-nav; little terrain features and lots of swap. Nothing more fun than rucking a full LLVI loadout and having a "smart" leader shooting a straight line through the swamp to "save time" lol.
Lol CJ got me with that Count impression.. SESAME STREET BABY!
This is so exciting to watch! Can't wait for the next part!
Great job. My last land nav was at Camp Shelby in 1987 with the Seabees. The only thing I had forgotten was the LARS rule.
Can't wait to see the next video.
Y’all should put an affiliate link for the map and other special gear.
A much needed refresher course for me. I believe knowing at least some basic navigation skills is just as important as learning how to swim...ya never know when!
Refresher course always needed thank you Pat keep it up.
First day lunch. Scrap Yard
Been unloading construction bins, separating cast iron/aluminum/copper spun motors/steel, tangled inn chain and clothes hangers, standing inn 6 inches of water.
Each piece from the rear differential, to the tiny bolt must be isolated to produce the finest American metals, and tank armor, aircraft wing.
Land Nav was my favorite Military/Infantry SKill I learned it in High school J.R.O.T.C.
it gives us the warrior the confidence to be able to think through problems in any Lost in the woods scenario.
it's good stuff basic Land Nav is awesome
it needs to always be an essential skill in the U.S. Army and U.S. Marine Corps Regardless of technology.
Always wanted to learn land nav skills. Great teaching skills, Mac! Made it easy for me to understand! I'm always hungry for more knowledge! I love this channel!
That was pretty neat. Thanks!
@patmac great bit. batteries die. protractors don't!
Very cool. Thank you.
I’ve been retired for over 6 years…great refresher!!!
Great vid Mac!!!
This is making its way back into our military culture with the new expert soldier badge. This incentivizes the mastery of the basics:
Land nav
Medical lanes
Weapon proficiency
General combat drills and reports
SKL, Radio and dagr utilization
I just learned about this and went full tilt. These are called basic soldier skills. If you can't complete these then you shouldn't be a soldier....
Loved this video! Great lesson can’t wait for part 2.
I love land nab! The video reminds me of my first experience with it at Ft. Bennington. Something peaceful about wondering around in the pines.
Another great video
Great stuff!
So well explained. ❤
Really want to practice this and EVERYONE SHOULD these days.
Good to know i'm not the only analog man in a digital world.
This is amazing I had no idea just how much in complicated it is. Ty sir
This is a great refresher on land navigation that's not electronic. These days everyone is relying on electronic navigation, and not using the good old fashioned maps that can be bought in a store. The way you think is excellent if shit were to hit the fan.
thanks Pat
hallelujah!!! Pat is on the money with this issue. I learned in Alabama in the summer of 1990 to do land nav in basic and AIT. This is before GPS was prevalent. Thank God those senior NCO's trained me using a map and compass and ranger beads!!!!
His training a spot on is the best instructor for this I feel, better than the ones I had in sear aircrew air force, that experience was great but didn't do a lot of basic land Nav.... I picked up the skill later in years doing rescue and other apps as a civilian /other ...lol...
@@bsellman6881 There are several videos of Pat as a civilian teaching soldiers. I don't think they understand how absolutely cool and awesome that would be. He is an excellent teacher.
FYSA, Land Nav is now being added back into the Army's NCO Basic Leader Course. It's a much needed reintroduction.
Thanks for this!
Dude! I remember navigating LA county with a Thomas guide! It worked 100% of the time.
"so i gotta be counting the whole time?"
"yep"
"shit!"
that was my reaction the first time too
The man knows his sesame street!!
thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge with us!!! i know enough bout this to be dangerous!!! LOL but learning all i can on how to do it while the electronics are still up & running!!!
I am a huge advocate of map and compass, carrying a road atlas and using topo maps to find and orient locations.
This video brought back many memories from my younger days. To many people just don’t get it. I will admit that I have gotten used to using electronic but if needed I can still read and use a map (road and Topo)!
Great video.
We had to use land navigation up in Bridgeport, CA during Mountain Communications course. Before that we spent a full day going over land nav and all of the details associated. It's a dying art.
I couldn’t effectively do land nav until I went to selection! Made it to all my points. Nice refresher.
With technology l saw people using their phones to try to navigate through the woods. When SHTF just my opinion is that it could be also used to track you. My phone will be ditched. This is a good video and l agree it is a dying art. 👍🏻
Which level do we need to see the rest of this video? This is definitely a skill worth mastering and teaching your kids. Thanks PatMac!
In the 90s we still used map and compass in the CAF, Ill be honest I got damn lazy and use gps now and seeing this Im digging out the old gear and hitting the maps again still have an idea of it of course not totally forgotten, but most important for me Im not confident in my ability to nav accurately
Excellent information. I definitely needed this refresher (and much more still!) so I can start teaching my son. I had forgotten that Grid North is something different in the mix.
Maybe I'm a traditionalist, but I definitely feel that if you're going out into the backcountry or off trail with just a GPS (or even just your phone!), you're asking for trouble. Batteries die, signal gets lost or refracts giving an inaccurate fix, devices get lost or broken, and most important of all you don't actually have full awareness of your environment (especially as it relates to navigating), because you've just been blindly following a GPS. It's definitely nice to have a GPS so you can double-check things, be very accurate and quick when you need to know exactly where you are, etc., but in my mind it definitely shouldn't be relied upon.
Idk if i'll ever handle a gun... but this... this i can learn and apply! Genuinely enjoyed this! I miss my tween years geography and earth science classes. Pat's an awesome teacher!
Hahaha love the Megadeth impersonation!
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You instruct excellence, Pat. Appreciated 🥃 🥃
17SPU… god that brings back memories
Just my opinion. Grid Map/Compass land navigation is just as important as the ability to use iron sights.