BRUTAL REJECTION of Carlos Sainz Makes NO SENSE!
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Carlos Sainz’s F1 future should not be this uncertain. In his 10th F1 season, Carlos has consistently shown that he is a driver of great quality, regularly grabbing points finishes with Torro Rosso before showing a young Lando Norris how it is done at McLaren. At Ferrari he has matched Charles Leclerc most of the time, taking race wins off an indomitable Max Verstappen over the past couple of seasons. However Ferrari will say goodbye to him at the end of this season and despite there being a seat available at Red Bull and Mercedes, Carlos may find himself at the worst team on the grid next season. So why is Carlos Sainz being left behind this silly season? Well, let's find out.
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In a reasonable world, Stroll would be out and we'd get a Sainz/Alonso Spanish team up for the ages
If Stroll is out, Honda will push for Tsunoda.
Doesn't Strolls father own that team.
I’m Canadian and I agree.
AM should have offered Sainz instead of Uncle Alonso. Not sure what he is still doing in F1, retire with grace.
The Spanish Inquisition
Daddy Stroll, pull your head out. You are “supposedly “ a “business man”.
Very good point. Sainz and Alonso!
Unpopular opinion: Sainz would be much better teammate for Antonelli than George will be.
antonelli wont even be ready by next year idk what toto is thinking
Russell is excellent. The car is terrible.
George is Ocon light.
@@gregmarcus3064 well put
Carlos is arguably the best and most accomplished journeyman driver available on the grid.
Based
And yet no one needs him.
Mercedes are investing on young longer term talent as a replacement for Lewis.
Red Bull need a second driver, not a competition for Max,. Perez money is also handy considering that Red Bull is pretty new in producing their own power train (and I could imagine they need money for that expansion)
Obviously Ferrari do not need him because they dropped him.
Mclaren won't be giving him a seat again, not with Piastri and Norris just doing just mightily fine.
Aston Martin have Lance to consider and Fernando is more marketable.
The rest could probably do with cheaper drivers, since they are more concern about development and need that money be spent elsewhere.
Only Audi needs a brand ambassador and might see a need for Sainz.
Both Sainz and Verstappen have aged and mellow since their days at Torro Rosso. I would think they could be good teammates if they could get their father's to butt out of their careers.
Carlos Snr for sure, but Jos? That's unlikely
Plus i don't think Carlos would be so close to Max to actually create problems. He would be much closer than Perez and most importantly much more consistent than Perez but he would always have a 2-3 tenth deficit which is in fact what RB wants.
Or the RB car is so difficult that he woul get there get horrible result and like perez, pierre and albon state that the car is really to max liking and they can't driver.
💯% Totally agree.
Jos is always going to be a pain in the ass wherever Max is, and that is just part of the package. Nobody, including Max, can do anything about it.
Red Bull's days of having enough car to make up for a mediocre #2 driver are over. If Red Bull keep Perez for '25 they won't win the constructors. With Sainz they will. Max and Carlos have proven themselves and will accept that not every day is their day. Max would better Carlos on most days, but Carlos would get his share. I'm not a huge Sainz fan but he can drive and has earned a spot on a top team.
Mercedes being butt-hurt over missing out on Max makes sense, but I still can't rationalize taking a proven winner over someone who has a lot of maturing to do.
He had his chance in an easy car like Ferrari. He wouldn't be able todrive the RB as it's tailored to Max. He wouldn't make a difference in Merc. So maybe he's not a top driver as some Media claims.
Still don't get why Ferrari were in such a hurry to ditch Sainz. They had the best driver pairing on the grid. It's going to have to be a monumentally good driver that replaces him.
Currently their decision looks frankly idiotic.
I agree, they made. mistake. I'm a ;Lewis fan but replacing Sainz for him was a huge mistake. Sainz/Leclerc team is powerful. Lewis is not confident anymore and he is not aggressive. Too old and can't stand up to Russell.
We all know stroll won't go anywhere, so in my humble opinion, I think the only sensible option for Carlos left is to go to what will become Audi. The team want him. They are willing to pay him well and give him a long-term contract
Every time Lance Stroll puts another wheel wrong, we can only hope that Papa Stroll must be a least thinking about still having the option of signing up Carlos to partner with Fernando to give Aston Martin a great driver lineup .........
It's crap but I get it. Toto want Antonelli from his own stable. Wouldn't surprise me of he picks up Ocon for a 1 year deal as he's Toto managed. Antonelli could do with the second season in F2 unless there is vast improvement this season.
Carlos Sr and Big man Jos don't get along so that's red bull done. So he ends up getting Danny Ric'ed, but not by his own choosing.
McLaren are sorted with probably the best pairing on the grid.
If anyone gets the Aston seat in the unlikely event Lawrence takes Lance's toys away, Honda will want Yuki in there. On this years for he kinda deserves it.
That leaves only formula B drives. Sad really, but I do get it.
Its inconceivable that Sainz is not being headhunted by teams at the sharp end. Wolff could break protocol, Horner did when he sacked Albon and drafted in Perez. Stroll, don't get me started . I am in disbelief that we are seeing this imbecile driving an F1 car. I wouldn't allow him in motorsport at all. Take your billions of Canadian dollars of pocket money Lance and let a talented driver help your Dad to realise his teams full potential.
so Alonso / Sainz - made in Heaven team
also Russell / Sainz
but more interestingly
Verstappen / Sainz - Jos/Carlos Snr (Dads off the pit wall, off the grid altogether and watch the races from your sofas!)
Sainz has no seat while stroll is guaranteed a seat
Perez is also guaranteed a seat. And he’s worse.
No one is worse than Stroll dude…..
Yuki and Zhou as well. While Yukinhas done a decent job, let's be honest that hismpresence is cos he's japanesand and Honda supplies engines and Zhounis chinese
I agree Zhou and Tsunoda are tokens. Stroll is an embarrassment to Aston. How can such a prestigious brand justify allowing an incompetent, immature, careless, lacklustre character with no F1 talent like Stroll remain employed? It's actually something that the FIA should address. We are watching week after week a total loser in a coveted seat which is 1 out of 20 in the world.
In a more perfect world, the grid would welcome a couple more teams so that these younger drivers would have a learning platform with newer teams still feeling their way in the series. That would create an opportunity for the likes of an Antonelli etc to hone their craft and leave the better teams for the likes of a really good driver like Sainz.
And Red Bull don't want anyone that will challenge Crashtappen. That is whey they want to keep someone on the likes of Perez. Plus he and the kid were a bit at odds in their time at STR
I think Mercedes is afraid that he would show up there, goldenboy George
i like sainz i hope he gets a good team , he should have checos spot imo
Toto should sign Carlos in terms that Antonelli will move to Williams in 25 then swap him with George in 26. Antonelli would learn a lot from Carlos than from George. Anyway, back to reality Carlos should sign for Sauber and hope in 26 when they become Audi with the new regs they can be competitive.
This is a good comment, we know what should happen but we also know what won't happen. So, what's the explanation for keeping Perez?
@@sandraoneill3932 Perez comes with big money sponsors and he isn't a threat to Max signing Carlos who doesn't have the backing like Checo's would be costly for Red Bull not to mention he would be a threat to Max plus Jos and Carlos Sr They don't get along.
George Russell is not that special as everyone thinks, he cant push the car enough, Merc should drop him and take Sainz, also how Merc is expecting to Russell be a team player for a younger driver? LOL - get ready for Hamilton/Rosberg v2
How the fuck could checo be consistant with all the sabotages his team has done to his car.
- bad transmission, they did not change it and boom it gave up
- rookie engineer to checo which has cost ghim around 60 points per season
-team chief of engineer is the same guy as max engineer wtf
- 3 races with a test floor
- team change the car computer which affected checo brake distribution
Couple of many but yeah checo is inconsistent
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Go smoke whatever you cuktivate in mexico. Seems to be working well
I understand Mercedes decision. They want to put Kimi in the seat next year or sign a driver for 1 season then put Kimi on the seat. Carlos doesn't want a 1 year deal.
But RB decision to not sign him is ridiculous. He would be better than Perez and he would still not have the pace to have threaten Max.
Perez is 5 thents away in most races. Yes in some he is only 2 tenth but in others he is a horrifying 7 tenths away.
Carlos would be 2-3 tenths away most of the time while not having horrible 5-6 tenths gaps.
I think both Williams and Sauber have big potential. But with it only being potential it will be a gamble either way. I think the ceiling is higher with Sauber (when Audi take over properly) but a bigger risk. I think James Vowles has shown the leadership required to turn that team around which might be the safer option. He's just been incredibly unlucky with the timing of all this happening and so much going on at the moment.
Perez is a marketing magnet for Red Bull, he has more merchandising pull than Verstappen. That's why they will resign him.
Agree. Reportedly Checo brings in 65-70% of RB merchandising revenue plus the Carlis Slim sponsorship portfolio.
@2.27 What a burn for stroll. 🤣🤣
Sainz probably was hoping for a RB seat but was asking more that RB can afford to pay. Now with several doors being shut, sainz is running out of time and a competitive seat. Seats are their, but he might find himself out next season
Red Bull should have signed him. Not give Perez a 2 year extension 🤦🏻♂️
Rejection..? He wants a WDC level salary for winning a few races where the best driver had issues.
He's pretty good, would rate him slightly above Perez. Red Bull didn't want to offer any more money and he wanted more, that's all there is to it.
Maybe Mercedes will sign him, but think if he's after money he should just go to Audi.
He will get a seat but we not sure where and when
The people who pay the bills don’t think he is good enough. Simple as that. It has nothing to do with Stroll
Maybe he should take a reserve role until a better opportunity presents itself. Its better than being locked into a backmarker team.
Would love to see him at Mercedes alongside Russel, I am sure Mercs will be at the front end in not to long.If Kimi is that good why is he not doing very well in F2
Toto is looking forward long term and that is why Kimi will be on the grid next year as Hamilton's replacement. Next year the team wont be able to go to the top next year, so this gives him the 25 season to get settled in and ready to kick off the 26 season and the new regs.
People are talking like somehow sainz and verstappen are equal. Verstappen demolished him at the start of career. If you think a sainz has learned alot. Image that teenager who wasn't even old enough to get a driver's license yet.
RED BULL - TAKE SAINZ AND CUT PEREZ. Perez cannot drive that Red Bull car. He's shown how incompetent is and its getting embarrassing. I cannot understand why he's there. He had a chance, it didn't work. Get out now and move Sainz in.
In the short term Williams is the better option for Carlos, he could finish in the points semi regularly but long term (5yrs+) Audi should be the better choice, but 5yrs in F1 is a very long time.
Carlos should be in a Red Bull or Mercedes at least the Aston Martin but none of those will happen, so best to joint Williams for 2yrs and try to out drive the car and his teammate and see where the teams all are after the first full year of the new regulations.
Mercedes should sack Hamilton when Kimi turns 18 and put Kimi in the seat this year.
Sainz at Williams will be a signal to Mercedes that Williams is charting its own way, and expects to be competitive in 25. Mercedes can run their own kindergarten for Antonelli. George and Antonelli are what Mercedes deserve. Neither are impressive at all.
Sainz is honestly being overrated these days
Williams. James Vowles speaks with confidence, logic and steely determination. I'd take that over Audi as far as building for the future.
As Ferrari fan, although I'm looking forward to Lewis in red, I'd rather have him in a competitive car and I blame Mercedes for that because we already have the most amazing driver pair on the grid and I love both of them!
Pretty sure it's his fault, as well.. he was holding out for the biggest paycheck + the biggest team.. it didn't work out for him.. Perez got the second Red Bull seat and that kinda means he is out of a seat for 2025...
In a grid where there are guys like Stroll, Yuki, Zhou who are getting multiple chances not cos of their driving but other reasons like nationality or parents, its sad to see guys like Carlos without a seat.
Hey don't put Yuki in the same breath as those two.
@@Fiasco3 why not? His chances at F1 is purely cos of him being Japanese and Honda supplying engines. Remember when Stroll pushed one of his team members, people called him all sorts of things but Yuki has been far more rude to the team and has an attitude problem. He is not even a champion in the lower divisions. He has done a decent job (i'll give him that) but nothing extraordinary. Guys like Mick Schumacher who was the F2 champ is struggling and probably will never get a decent chance. Carlos being so good has nowhere to go. So yeah nothing wrong in me putting Yuki with those 2.
@@Whatreally123 He scores points in that ratty RB nearly every race. He's just after a better car.
@@Fiasco3 this season. How many chances has he got? By that logic, even Stroll has scored points and podiums.
How many chances did Mick Schumacher get? None. Carlos has outperformed even Leclerc multiple times yet he's without a seat. All in comparison.
Irrespective of the politics, you can't categorise Yuki with those other two, he's driving far too well, scoring points that Daniel Ricardo isn't even getting close to half the time, and still has lots of room to grow. Does his attitude suck sometimes? Yeah but other drivers too lose their shit on the radio and no one seems to bat an eye. Sainz should take Stroll's seat, simple.
FOM and LM are starting to regret rejecting Andretti. With Congress chiming in, the sport will have no other choice but to let Andretti in.
RB will not take a driver on that can compete with Verstappen. Check still be there next year.
How doesn't it make sense? Why would Redbull go back for a start then the main reason imo is there fathers dont get along why would they bring trouble they dont need 🤔
Just watch Perez as he won't miss Max (at Imola) next time. Starting at the back of the grid is a good way not do to crash into Max for sure. But Perez needs to drive like a top team driver for the rest of the season and not like the 2nd half of 2023. Sainz should drive for Williams or suck it up and take Sauber.
Can't say I've ever been impressed by Sainz, sorry. If he was that good, Ferrari would want to keep him or someone else would be clawing over the guy.
Nothing is going right for Mercedes. Maybe an opening will come Sainz' way if his luck changes.
did he burn bridge with Renault?
can he go to Alpine?
The obsession with pay drivers and unproven rookies who might be the ‘next big thing’ really is the worst part of the sport right now
Carlos is probably my favorite driver on the grid at the moment, but let's be real here. People keep saying he was 'let go' by Ferrari and that's not true. They have been negotiating a new deal since the end of last year when all the Charles contract rumors were swirling, too. We have no idea what Carlos is asking for in terms of compensation, but the fact that Ferrari didn't want to pay him what he was asking after months of negotiating is telling. The fact that NO ONE ELSE wants to give it to him, either, is also telling. I have a feeling that Carlos is asking to get paid like Verstappen and Hamilton.
On one hand, I get it. Up until a Miami, he could feasibly point to his results and say 'I'm the only non-Red Bull drive to win a race in over a full season, and I did it twice!' He's 97% as fast as Charles but doesn't make the mistakes or crack under pressure, and he's got better racecraft and strategy than the engineers paid to do nothing but that. But with that said, he's not some new guy on the block doing this. He's historically been an upper mid tier driver. B+ level. And I think that's still what he is, but he's not going to get better the way Piastri should. Carlos can get good results out of a good car consistently, but he's never going to make the car over-perform the way a LeClerc, Verstappen or Alonso would.
The reason he doesn't have a seat is because he's being picky and asking for too much money from the teams he wants to drive for like Merc or Red Bull. He likely won't want to play second fiddle to Max, and Mercedes has plenty of options that, while maybe not as good as Carlos in 2025, may only be a 1 year spot anyway as they want Antonelli in the car ASAP. They could drop Mick or Ocon or Vesti in the car for 2025 and get decent results, and if they're great, then great, they can move on from George after 2025 and put Antonelli in that seat instead.
well said
I feel that, he really needs to go drive for Aston Martin. Lance should just get out. I know he's had a couple good races lately, but he won't be able to sustain it. May be we can get Bernie Ecclestone to talk to both Lance and Laurence to make the change. haha
Why not Haas? Sainz and Bearman would be a nice mix of rookie and established pro.
Are u drunk???
If Hamilton had retired instead of moving to Ferrari and, for some reason, Sainz would still have to find another seat, then yes, he would be an option for Mercedes. But this way, it would be a straight swap. And Mercedes would look weak hiring the guy Ferrari saw as a worse option than Hamilton. So they have to go completely wild and gamble on a rookie that hasn't yet confirmed in F2.
Ferrari dropping Carlos for an aging Lewis is the biggest mistake ever.
Charles is their #1 driver, so what will Lewis be? #2? Why would a 7 time champ agree to that?
If Lewis is given #1 status, whats the point of charles who is their long term driver? They want to treat Lewis as a #1 driver and their long term guy gets treated as #2?
If kewis does well, its still a short term propositi9n. If he doesn't do well, what was the point?
Every way you look at it, its a very short term and extremely expensive decision.
I think max should join Vcarb if he still dominate i will be surprised.
Williams could be a very good seat for Sainz in 2026 according to Jenson Button. What does JB know that prompted Albon’s contract extension?
I think he will sign with red bull in the end. And red bull will resolve there differences and realize the opportunity they have
Besides mick schumacher, the only person less deserving of an F1 drive is lance stroll
Go to Williams prove it’s not just the car .
No mention Sauber becomes Audi F1 in two years🤔
Two bridesmaids, bottas and sainz is possible to be team mates at williams.
Carlos should go to Sauber/Audi at this point... 2026 is going to be a big reset for all the teams anyway... if he chooses Williams for the short term he is gambling and won't get that Audi seat after making that decision.
He could go with Newey to Andretti.
Sainz's problem is that he considers himself one of the best drivers who can be number 1 in the best teams. But the reality is that his maximum is to be the number 2 driver in the top teams or number 1 in some of the teams that are fighting for 5-10 place in the race. The TPs of the leading teams know this, and they are also aware that with Sainz comes his political game-loving family. If Leclerc was on the market, RB and Mercedes would have already prepared a contract for him. This year, Leclerc had a brake problem in Bahrain and finished behind Sainz, a car set-up problem in Australia, where he did not finish his final lap in Q3, and also the tire warm-up in qualifying in Japan. In those races, Sainz finished ahead of Leclerc and many began to claim that Ferrari had let go of the wrong driver. But in the next four races - China, Miami, Imola and Monaco, Leclerc had no problems and was faster than Sainz in every single session, qualifying, sprint race or race.
Sainz is simply not at the level of drivers like Hamilton, Verstappen, Alonso or Leclerc, although the latter has yet to become world champion. But they are in a different league compared to him and he has to accept that reality.
No doubt Sainz is a great driver, i would say at this point, even better than Hamilton. I think Ferrari fkd up.
Red Bull is making a mistake not aiming for Sainz, with a car that's on the decline they should aim to upgrade their driver pool and have someone race closer to Verstappen than Perez. They might lose the constructor championship to Ferrari at this rate.
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afaik Perez has some rich people paying lots of money to RB to keep him there
Carlos Slim, richest man in Mexico and 11th richest in the world.
This guy has the worst agent… ever !
Perez popularity brings in the cash, even if his driving sucks lately
Mexican Tom Cruise brings lots of money with him.
I wish RB would let Checo go at the end of this year, and replace him with Carlos. Checo can go to Williams which is about where his current form deserves to be (and I’m sure they’d be happy to have him take Sergeants seat), and Carlos can pick up consistent P2s behind Max to take 2nd place in the Drivers championship for RB.
A Gasly and Renault reunion?
Carlos is being friend-zoned.😁
Marko loves Perez. Makes Max look great
Marko is part of the Austrian RB click. He understands the importance of Mexico’s market channels for Red Bull product consumption.
Mick to MB mark my words or I eat my hat……
Carlos should Go to R/Bull as No 2 or A/M Get RID of Your SON .Cos that's what they SAY .Got a Ride Cos of DAD ?
I love Perez but man id love to see sainz in a Red Bull
Every team would prefer a Team Player and CS lacks that . If a Team pays so much on a driver ,he has to help in their expected returns and support the team decision . An driver is because of the Team and the car they make and not vice versa .
sainz will settle in sauber\audi
Perez is a pay driver. He brings in a ton of money from Mexico
While i agree with most of your points i think you are slightly overplaying how good sainz is. At Ferrari he hasnt matched Leclerc. Hes on average been a tenth and a half slower in qualifying and 2 and a half tenths slower than Leclerc over race distance in their time together, he has less points, less wins, less podiums and a losing head to head record in races and qualifying. The team orders narrative isnt true either, for 2 of Sainz's wins Leclerc was blatantly passed over by the team, one was justified (Singapore) and the other was blatant robbery (Silverstone). Despite this hes definitely good enough to be at a top team but i suspect teams are wary about the politics he and his family bring with him, Red Bull have already experienced this with him and max's dad at toro rosso
Extremely well put...I bet all top teams are aware of the political and toxic nature of Sainz and his entourage...hence they are avoiding him...
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However, he's not a team player and has a toxic management
It is better than Perez a lot better