Thanks for the helpful video. I followed this to change my fluid and filter this last weekend on our 2012 T&C with just over 120k miles. Transmission shifts like brand new again. It' so silky smooth. (Was fine before the fluid/filter change. Just even better now) One note though, when I finally got the pan loose, the fluid exploded out of it and made a huge mess on my garage floor all around the fluid catch pan that I had under the transmission. To others doing this, make sure to watch out for this by putting some aluminum foil or something behind the transmission pan so if the pan suddenly drops and the fluid "explodes" out, it will hit the foil and drain into your catch pan below instead of coming out sideways and all over your driveway or garage.
Hi... thanks for the note... the transmission may have acummunlated some presure that did not relieve... I'll try on my too but I will leave the fill plug off... may be the presurre will relieve... anyway, thanks for the comment... Quick question... How many oil quaters did take to fill to proper level after you put all back on place? Highly appreciate your input... Thanks...
Nice job, clear and concise info. Haven't done it yet, but I feel 100% confident in changing fluid and filter on our van after watching. Referring to Eric O as an expert always gains you points.
I installed WIX brand filter which is OE manufacturer and used the rubber gasket that came with it. Much easier than RTV application that requires expert application. Torqued the bolts and have zero leaks.
My trans. Pan was starting to leak. Measured 5 qts. Removed. The great stuff silicone direction says to tighten pan nuts just enough to see silicone squeezing out at edges. Then wait 30 minutes before torquing pan bolts. Wait another 90 minutes after that before adding fluid. I replaced the pan with a new one that has drain plug. Using the dipstick video added 5.5 qts of new fluid.
Excellent video. Gave me the confidence to do the job myself on my Town & Country. One tip from a Toxicologist (studies how chemicals hurt the body), if I may. Please never let anything touch your skin that you are not prepared to eat or drink. Why? Chemicals pass through the skin much easier than one would ever imagine. That's how nicotine patches and other things work. The chemical passes right through the skin in varying degrees. The thing with solvents and sealants is that these are really nasty chemicals that get inside the body and stay. You risk cancer, nerve disorders and other ailments. Gloves, gloves, gloves. I hate gloves too, and they make the job much harder. But what do you do? Your health comes first. Thanks to everyone for considering this information.
Cool video and extra thumbs up for the killer mood music jams! left out it takes AMT +4 Fluid and FYI My buddy who works as a tech at the Chrysler dealership said 5.5 quarts for the 62 T or 62TE mole of transmission. Need dipstick cuz torch converter is gonna hold some fluid tho. The transmission dipstick video is awesome! Expectantly for those of us with high mileage rigs who may lose a little fluid here and there too! Great job thanks for making it!
Fluid specs are whatever comes out of your pan this is a not complete flush there will still be old tranny fluid in the torque converter and the transmission cooler hope this helps and stops you from over filling your transmission.
@@autobotavengerfireballxl5339 typically if you drain and fill, drive a 100 miles. Drain and fill again, youll get out like 70% of the old fluid. Think a 3rd drain and fill gets you over 90%. As long as you drain and fill it once every 24k miles you dont have to worry about old fluid. The factory probably says you can go over 100k before trans fillup or they say its lifetime fluid.
You could add what size the torque screws are and what to torque them at also what to torque the pan bolts. You want to state that the trans fluid needs to heated up to a certain temp to get the right level.
My old timer shop teacher said to never use silicone for a trans pan gasket. You don't want any of those little pieces of silicone "shrapnel" gunking up those little ports and check valves, solenoids, or your new filter for that matter. Spend the $5 bucks and just buy a real gasket
tom fum the manufacture used silicone on this transmission so that’s what goes back on. I used fast curing silicone and wasted the recommended amount of time before adding fluid.
On the video you pointed us to regarding measuring the proper fill level of the transmission, the guy who marked his dipstick didn't even follow his own, inadequate instructions. In the video, he clearly overfilled his transmission because the fluid level was above his maximum mark on the dipstick! (One must know the temperature of the fluid before one can determine if the level that you get on the dipstick is within the recommended range.) The guy in the dipstick video just blows off the significance of the effect of temperature on the fluid level.
Thank you, great video! The only thing I plan to do in addition is to just buy a pan with a drain plug. Also, in addition to wiping clean the pan and transmission surfaces I then use some brake cleaner to remove all oil and solvents. The RTV tends to "bite" and really adhere to the metal. Very good video here.
"South Main Auto" is Eric O, not "Eric The Car Guy". Those are 2 different RUclips channels. So not to confuse people the video you seek is "South Main Auto" (Eric O).
you work very professional, please look at owners manual for service intervals, as a certified Chrysler tech, a dealer likes to change it at 30k but as an owner my owners manual calls for service at 100k under normal driving conditions.
I got my van used and don't know when it was serviced last and noticed in the video the fluid was very dirty. If the fluid is still very red it does not need changing?
I really liked the video but a few things helpful (unless I missed them) and didn’t read all the comments. 1. What torx size for the filter and 2. What torque spec. For the pan bolts and 3. Any recommended torque pattern for the pan bolts? Thanks
Mopar, UHG! You can buy a trans pan with a drain plug not too expensive as for the dipstick, they really screwed people on that man, but you can buy one at Autozone for like $18. Can't leave it in there bc it's too long but if you know what engine you have there are markers that help you figure out the fill line. Gr8 video, helpful and informative!
when the pan was removed , was there ANY GASKET material ? and it just came off, you correct, I don;'t have the specs but usually, if there is no gasket, it's a dry fit, but I DKTBH
@@AdrianJayeOnline The gasket materia (not gasket maker )l was stuck on the transmission pan that He removed. Not on the transmission .. Seems like the Gasket is enough . But just to make sure , better put some of that gasket maker on there. I also Hear it is best to let it dry over night before putting in the new fluid.
Listen buddy, it sucks living hand to mouth I get it. But my comment was for informational purposes. If there are people out there that belive in changing your trans fluid every 30k miles like myself then the pan with drain plug installed already is the way to go. It was an incredible INVESTMENT that 40 bucks. Peace out my ninja
I have done this before but one of my takeways form your video is how you record your service with the white paint marker. I love tracking my service, and have been keeping a log in Google Sheets, but how you're doing it is a good idea too if anyone else needs to see a quick look at when and what you've done. I'll probably record in both places. Is there an advantage of the gasket maker goup over the cork gasket that I've used in the past? Thanks
The gasket sealent is installed at the factory by a robot. I have always used a gasket on my fluid changes and never had a leak. Lot easier and quicker.
You definitely replaced the transmission filter perfectly. I'm not convinced you changed the transmission fluid. Can we agree you dumped a little bit out of the pan? I was hoping to find a video of someone disconnecting the transmission fluid lines to the rad and letting the transmission, pump out the oil fluid while sucking up fresh fluid from the return line. I think the torque converter holds around 5 quarts. 9 in the whole system maybe? Great job with the gasket.
@@jth1987leb I agree. I confused fluid flush with fluid change. I hope someone that dumps the fluid in the pan once doesn't think they are good to drive 100,000 miles.
@@jth1987leb You could Fluid flush it if it's been within maintenance spec, however, In my case I will do a fluid change. Because I am within manufacturers spec for change. NOT flush. In fact, a flush could cause more problems if you don't follow manufacturers maintenance because, believe it or not, after you are too far overdue for a transmission fluid change, flushing it at that point could cause problems because the metal flakes in the fluid is acting as a gripping agent for your syncrhos. So if you are 50-100k overdue for a fluid change, it's best to just do a fluid change instead of a flush. Flushing is a touchy subject.
2 years or 24000 miles for this service? My owners manual says 12 years or 120000 miles, or 6 years and 60000 if it's a police, taxi, or used for frequent towing.
Fluid is about $60 for a drain....you want to wreck your car to save $60 when Chrysler transmissions are known to be fry prematurely ? I have 300,000 on my transmission.....runs like a swiss watch. Don't forget to install an auxiliary oil cooler....another $80 wasted I guess but heat is the number one killer of transmissions. My caravan is now 10 yrs old and runs like new
Considering the price of the new transmission on one of these beasts, a few quarts of ATF +4 any filter is pretty cheap. I just bought a new one of these vans last year and will probably change the fluid long before the service interval.
If you are replacing the transmission cooling lines and the transmission filter.... which is recommended to do 1st.???..I'm doing at the same time just needed to know if there is a good reason to do one or the other first thank you.
Walking Trails 777 I would do the filter first because it’s lower than the cooling lines so it will draw that fluid out so you’re not making too much of a mess when you remove the lines.
Filter first, just did both myself and not much fluid came out of the cooler lines. Can't say for sure that less would have came out in the other order for sure, but it worked well for me to do filter first.
Good video ! One question. I had some experienced mechanics tell me not to change the transmission fluid after it's been overdue for so long. They said it would lead to more problems and I just don't believe it. Do you think this is true ? Or do you think it'll be fine and good for the transmission to get a fluid change and filter change ?
@@paulliberacki3396 in the case of the transmission and in my opinion. I say again, this is MY OPINION. if the car is way past is transmission service interval just leave it. No matter what is done, this transmission is going to fail. This was a last ditch effort to save this transmission.
The maintenance intervals this guy states is incorrect . There is very few cars that require 20000 mile transmission service . Severe service which is stated as police ,fleet , taxi or frequent towing is 6 years or 60000 miles . Normal service for everyday driving is 10 years or 120000 miles . Read your warranty book people and go by that . Use ATF+4 fluid only in these transmissions . You must be near me as we bought our van at Genessee Valley Dodge too .
Thank you, sir for your kind video, PLease I have a question, I have Dodge Grand Caravan 2014 with Milage 340000, I have a check engine light with code No. P0868(Transmission Fluid Pressure Low). Is that mean that I should make a fluid change like what you did? the problem that the previous owner did not replace the transmission oil for it. Is there any problem that might be happened to the transmission if I replace the oil like what you did?
I had the same code and it was low fluid level. I had a leaking trans cooler hose changed and I think they did not top up the fluid. Added about 1 litre and the code went away. My dealer will check and fill no charge, except cost of trans fluid used.
Great video, thank you! Out of curiosity, were you receiving the P0740 "torque converter clutch solenoid" code? I know a complete system flush is a common fix for this. Thank you for your feedback.
I left the old one and used it. the old one was fine and still had a tight fit around the filter neck. I do not take the risk of scratching the machined surface if I don't have to.
@@jth1987leb I got it out about 2 hrs ago. I had to use a short flat bladed screwdriver & a mallet to deform the edge enough to grab it with pliers. I should have just left the old one in. Took me about 20 minutes of monkeying around to get it out. Great channel though, I found your video very helpful. I'll like & subscribe!
good video... however my new filter came with a metal ring and rubber seal at the end. I had to pry the old one off before I could put in the new filter... i took pics but couldn't add to the comment
Have a question. Got my van used at 100,000mi and fluid is still red but sometimes it does not shift smoothly most when going at slower speeds and does lucas additive help at all? Any tips?
I do believe that the 9 qts is for a transmission rebuild with new torque converter. A filter change is always less then the complete system capacity with an automatic transmission.
Two very important steps you did not describe. 1. You did not mention properly cleaning the surfaces where the gasket seal is applied. 2. You did not describe the proper bolt torque pattern - it appeared you just went around the outside - one bolt after another. Some would say neither of these things matter. I believe they do. Otherwise I enjoyed your video.
No joking on this one. If people are going to use this as a learning video, they absolutely need to know that they can't just buy the cheapest fluid they find (which is usually Dexron). ATF+4 ONLY (unless ATF+5 is finally available now) in Chrysler/Dodge transmissions.
@@jth1987leb ic.carid.com/mopar/items/68145886ac_1.jpg the little silver thing. Looks like it was installed incorrectly last time it was changed. What's it's purpose? Would this have caused any issues with the transmission?
I have a 2015 3.6 motor it seems fine when you take off then it shifts hard and no more shift an try doing it manually does not work an the guy said the transmission was rebuilt a year ago
These transmissions are extremely unreliable. When he says rebuilt what level of rebuild does he mean? Did he just reseal it? Pull everything out and up all new clutch plates in? He also could have rebuilt it and forgot something. This customer had me do the fluid change and I made them understand that it is extremely unlikely to fix the problem. It didn’t fix the problem so a week lasted they traded it in on one something worse, but that’s a another story for another day.
I got my van used and needed new motor mounts and the transmission mount was the 1 most worn out. Would that damage the transmission and make it shift rough occasionally at slow speeds? The fluid is still red.
Rodney Smith a bad mount can make it feel Luke it’s shifting rough because the whole engine and transmission are moving when they shouldn’t be. The transmission fluid is red.
I had all 4 mounts replace but could that have done damage to the transmission. Now mostly it shifts smooth but will shift rough or jerk at slower speeds sometimes. I appreciate your return comment.
Rodney Smith bad mounts won’t ruin a transmission. Unfortunately these vans where just sold with bad transmissions. This customer ended up selling the van soon after the service because it didn’t fix the problem. The only fix is a rebuild
it depends on where you look. can be as low as 50 in lbs or as high as 125 in lbs. I did not put that info in there because I do not want to mis-inform the views. I did 80 in lbs
Luis Torre in my opinion no. I didn’t want to do the fluid change on this customers van but they were hoping it would fix the issue. It didn’t. So after the fluid change the transmission got worse and they sold it. If your transmission is not acting up don’t touch it. When it comes to automatic transmission fluid changes and flushes its best practice to keep to the manufacture service intervals from day one. If you don’t plan to keep to that schedule don’t mess with the transmission at all. Again, this is my opinion. I’m not a licensed mechanic
@@jth1987leb OK... thanks for your opinion... mine is from 2012 and has 142K miles and no issues shifting... I was thinking to do it as preventive mean, but now I'm not sure about...
@@jth1987leb There are some kits available for these that can solve specific issues. Some are not that hard to install, others are. Depending what's going on. I agree once the vehicle has gone past a certain point it's better not to change it.
Then you don't know how to read an owners manual. It's 120,000 miles. If you drive under 'severe duty' conditions then 60,000. A service station will try to talk you into a fluid change at the 60,000 mark but if you're never towing then wait till 120,000 or when the fluid starts looking bad.
@@jayryan7473 so I tow a small trailer, like 1500 lbs with our 2014 DGC. I have 84k miles on the van. I only about 15,000 of those are mine. The van came to me with an aftermarket hitch and 4-pin wiring harness, so I assume the previous owners did some light towing. We are taking the van and small camper across country this summer and i.tryimg to get everything taken care of now. Should I change the filter and clean the pan? I do have access to the service record from the dealer, but I don't think this service was done before I got it. Also considering a transmission cooler, maybe even an upgrade to the lower intake manifold.
Kristopher Hasenbuhler over 100000 miles. This was a customer requested service. I strongly advised against it. The transmission was having shifting issues. This repair made it worse. Mopar has had transmission issues with these vans for years. When the transmission starts acting up it’s time to replace it. Customer ended up selling the van.
Any thoughts why the fluid change made the shifting issue worse? My 2011 Chrysler T&C is just over 97k miles and she's just starting to shift a bit hard at times.
I think you were pretty vague on putting the oil back in the transmission and you didn't even show it you mumbled something about using the dipstick from the oil for the what are you talking about why didn't
You sure that was the proper torque sequence on the pan bolts? Typically you tighten the bolts in a spiral pattern starting from the center. You just tightened them in a circle.
My vw dealer changed my atf @75k miles on vw routan 2012 aka t&c. I believe they didnt do a good job coz now the transmission is leaking oil after 10k miles
Choose your sealant carefully. Some say do not refill with fluid for 24h, others are 90 minutes, others are 5 minutes. Permatex Great Stuff Black. If it leaked the mating surface was probably not clean and dry. Note at the back it keeps dripping forever in the video. Mine does this too. Just need to soak up as much as possible from above and do it quickly. You should take it back to them. Their error . . .
The title says 2014 Van, but in the description, it says 2015 van. Which is it? I have a 2015, wondering if anything has changed between the 2 years. Thanks
Thanks for the helpful video. I followed this to change my fluid and filter this last weekend on our 2012 T&C with just over 120k miles. Transmission shifts like brand new again. It' so silky smooth. (Was fine before the fluid/filter change. Just even better now)
One note though, when I finally got the pan loose, the fluid exploded out of it and made a huge mess on my garage floor all around the fluid catch pan that I had under the transmission. To others doing this, make sure to watch out for this by putting some aluminum foil or something behind the transmission pan so if the pan suddenly drops and the fluid "explodes" out, it will hit the foil and drain into your catch pan below instead of coming out sideways and all over your driveway or garage.
Hi... thanks for the note... the transmission may have acummunlated some presure that did not relieve... I'll try on my too but I will leave the fill plug off... may be the presurre will relieve... anyway, thanks for the comment... Quick question... How many oil quaters did take to fill to proper level after you put all back on place? Highly appreciate your input... Thanks...
Nice job, clear and concise info. Haven't done it yet, but I feel 100% confident in changing fluid and filter on our van after watching. Referring to Eric O as an expert always gains you points.
I learned the fluid check from him. I wanted to send my viewer his way.
Great video. Thank you SIR.
If you want to keep your car every 5 years replace the trany fluid. The lifetime warranty is BS.
I installed WIX brand filter which is OE manufacturer and used the rubber gasket that came with it. Much easier than RTV application that requires expert application. Torqued the bolts and have zero leaks.
My trans. Pan was starting to leak. Measured 5 qts. Removed. The great stuff silicone direction says to tighten pan nuts just enough to see silicone squeezing out at edges. Then wait 30 minutes before torquing pan bolts. Wait another 90 minutes after that before adding fluid. I replaced the pan with a new one that has drain plug. Using the dipstick video added 5.5 qts of new fluid.
Excellent video. Gave me the confidence to do the job myself on my Town & Country. One tip from a Toxicologist (studies how chemicals hurt the body), if I may. Please never let anything touch your skin that you are not prepared to eat or drink. Why? Chemicals pass through the skin much easier than one would ever imagine. That's how nicotine patches and other things work. The chemical passes right through the skin in varying degrees. The thing with solvents and sealants is that these are really nasty chemicals that get inside the body and stay. You risk cancer, nerve disorders and other ailments. Gloves, gloves, gloves. I hate gloves too, and they make the job much harder. But what do you do? Your health comes first. Thanks to everyone for considering this information.
tyanite1 I hear this all the time. My boyfriend is an environmental toxicologist.
Information I could have used before now. Although I do wear gloves now. I've had a lot of crap on my hands though.
Cool video and extra thumbs up for the killer mood music jams! left out it takes AMT +4 Fluid and
FYI My buddy who works as a tech at the Chrysler dealership said 5.5 quarts for the 62 T or 62TE mole of transmission. Need dipstick cuz torch converter is gonna hold some fluid tho. The transmission dipstick video is awesome! Expectantly for those of us with high mileage rigs who may lose a little fluid here and there too! Great job thanks for making it!
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Do you mean ATF+4?
You are not draining the torque converter with this method. Only the fluid in the pan.
@@yeagermcbipper9008 correct! You need a shop with equipment to do a full flush.
Good video would have liked to have seen torque specs and fluid specs and quantity
Anyone know how much fluid they take? I’ve read 5.2L but want to double check
Fluid specs are whatever comes out of your pan this is a not complete flush there will still be old tranny fluid in the torque converter and the transmission cooler hope this helps and stops you from over filling your transmission.
@@autobotavengerfireballxl5339 typically if you drain and fill, drive a 100 miles. Drain and fill again, youll get out like 70% of the old fluid. Think a 3rd drain and fill gets you over 90%. As long as you drain and fill it once every 24k miles you dont have to worry about old fluid. The factory probably says you can go over 100k before trans fillup or they say its lifetime fluid.
Yeah thats why i viewed this video, but its not the video i viewed 1st.
Thank you. Great video very clear and easy to follow instructions.😊👍
You could add what size the torque screws are and what to torque them at also what to torque the pan bolts. You want to state that the trans fluid needs to heated up to a certain temp to get the right level.
My old timer shop teacher said to never use silicone for a trans pan gasket. You don't want any of those little pieces of silicone "shrapnel" gunking up those little ports and check valves, solenoids, or your new filter for that matter. Spend the $5 bucks and just buy a real gasket
tom fum the manufacture used silicone on this transmission so that’s what goes back on. I used fast curing silicone and wasted the recommended amount of time before adding fluid.
Where?
On the video you pointed us to regarding measuring the proper fill level of the transmission, the guy who marked his dipstick didn't even follow his own, inadequate instructions. In the video, he clearly overfilled his transmission because the fluid level was above his maximum mark on the dipstick! (One must know the temperature of the fluid before one can determine if the level that you get on the dipstick is within the recommended range.) The guy in the dipstick video just blows off the significance of the effect of temperature on the fluid level.
Should not the gasket, rubber around the the incursion hole where the filter pushes into the transmission be replaced as well?
Thank you, great video! The only thing I plan to do in addition is to just buy a pan with a drain plug. Also, in addition to wiping clean the pan and transmission surfaces I then use some brake cleaner to remove all oil and solvents. The RTV tends to "bite" and really adhere to the metal. Very good video here.
Judging by the magnet, fluid and filter have been changed before. That buildup is a bit unsettling but not abnormal.
Awesome! Best video I've seen so far! Thnx!
But what's the torque on those bolts in inch pounds?
Agreed!
"South Main Auto" is Eric O, not "Eric The Car Guy". Those are 2 different RUclips channels. So not to confuse people the video you seek is "South Main Auto" (Eric O).
you work very professional, please look at owners manual for service intervals, as a certified Chrysler tech, a dealer likes to change it at 30k but as an owner my owners manual calls for service at 100k under normal driving conditions.
I got my van used and don't know when it was serviced last and noticed in the video the fluid was very dirty. If the fluid is still very red it does not need changing?
I really liked the video but a few things helpful (unless I missed them) and didn’t read all the comments. 1. What torx size for the filter and 2. What torque spec. For the pan bolts and 3. Any recommended torque pattern for the pan bolts? Thanks
400 pounds ft 🤣🤣
I wouldn't say that, someone will actually try to use your value and break off the bolts and will be fucked.
A pretty vague video. No torque spec given, no type of fluid or quantity. All pretty important information. Thanks for your time in making this video.
Fluid and torque specs can be googled. He did his job, I think this video was very helpful.
Replace the pan with one that has a drain, makes looking after these transmissions much faster and cleaner and easier.
Mopar, UHG! You can buy a trans pan with a drain plug not too expensive as for the dipstick, they really screwed people on that man, but you can buy one at Autozone for like $18. Can't leave it in there bc it's too long but if you know what engine you have there are markers that help you figure out the fill line. Gr8 video, helpful and informative!
You should always change the filter when you change the fluid that's usually what gets clogged
Great video!! I enjoyed watching about the Grand Caravan Transmission!!
How much fluid add when done changing filter and what did you clean the pan and valve body
6:45 does he say you don't need a lot, while using enough silicon to do the job 3 times over?
when the pan was removed , was there ANY GASKET material ? and it just came off, you correct, I don;'t have the specs but usually, if there is no gasket, it's a dry fit, but I DKTBH
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The gasket materia (not gasket maker )l was stuck on the transmission pan that He removed. Not on the transmission ..
Seems like the Gasket is enough .
But just to make sure , better put some of that gasket maker on there.
I also Hear it is best to let it dry over night before putting in the new fluid.
Omg thank you so much you're a life saver 👍👍
Hurricane Javi I’m glad I could help
Interval in the service manual is 120K miles/192K kms or 12yrs, not 2yrs 24k miles as stated in the video. For fleet vehicles even it's 60K miles.
An aftermarket drain pan with drain plug is available from Dorman for 40 bucks. Fyi
It's worked out great for me
Listen buddy, it sucks living hand to mouth I get it. But my comment was for informational purposes. If there are people out there that belive in changing your trans fluid every 30k miles like myself then the pan with drain plug installed already is the way to go. It was an incredible INVESTMENT that 40 bucks. Peace out my ninja
That's great news
Link or part #?
I have done this before but one of my takeways form your video is how you record your service with the white paint marker. I love tracking my service, and have been keeping a log in Google Sheets, but how you're doing it is a good idea too if anyone else needs to see a quick look at when and what you've done. I'll probably record in both places.
Is there an advantage of the gasket maker goup over the cork gasket that I've used in the past? Thanks
The gasket sealent is installed at the factory by a robot. I have always used a gasket on my fluid changes and never had a leak. Lot easier and quicker.
@@Candoit2 OP never let the RTV set up... all that goop just dripped into the transmission pan.
You definitely replaced the transmission filter perfectly. I'm not convinced you changed the transmission fluid. Can we agree you dumped a little bit out of the pan? I was hoping to find a video of someone disconnecting the transmission fluid lines to the rad and letting the transmission, pump out the oil fluid while sucking up fresh fluid from the return line.
I think the torque converter holds around 5 quarts. 9 in the whole system maybe?
Great job with the gasket.
Bruce Davies this is what you’d get at the dealer and the call it a fluid change. What you are referring to is a fluid flush
@@jth1987leb I agree. I confused fluid flush with fluid change.
I hope someone that dumps the fluid in the pan once doesn't think they are good to drive 100,000 miles.
@@jth1987leb You could Fluid flush it if it's been within maintenance spec, however, In my case I will do a fluid change. Because I am within manufacturers spec for change. NOT flush. In fact, a flush could cause more problems if you don't follow manufacturers maintenance because, believe it or not, after you are too far overdue for a transmission fluid change, flushing it at that point could cause problems because the metal flakes in the fluid is acting as a gripping agent for your syncrhos. So if you are 50-100k overdue for a fluid change, it's best to just do a fluid change instead of a flush. Flushing is a touchy subject.
How much is the torque for the screws?
Thank You! Just did this today. Great Video!
And after I did the filter, before I put it back together, I drilled a hole in the pan, threaded it, and put in a drain plug.
what are the torque spec on transmission pan bolts?
40lbs
2 years or 24000 miles for this service? My owners manual says 12 years or 120000 miles, or 6 years and 60000 if it's a police, taxi, or used for frequent towing.
120,000 miles would make sense. I'd probably do it around 100,000 miles but 120 could work.
If you don't change the fluid, the trans is probably toast by 120,000 miles anyhow, I believe some manufacturers call that "lifetime fluid" lol
Fluid is about $60 for a drain....you want to wreck your car to save $60 when Chrysler transmissions are known to be fry prematurely ? I have 300,000 on my transmission.....runs like a swiss watch. Don't forget to install an auxiliary oil cooler....another $80 wasted I guess but heat is the number one killer of transmissions. My caravan is now 10 yrs old and runs like new
Considering the price of the new transmission on one of these beasts, a few quarts of ATF +4 any filter is pretty cheap. I just bought a new one of these vans last year and will probably change the fluid long before the service interval.
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Where did you mount the trans cooler and which one did you use??
If you are replacing the transmission cooling lines and the transmission filter.... which is recommended to do 1st.???..I'm doing at the same time just needed to know if there is a good reason to do one or the other first thank you.
Walking Trails 777 I would do the filter first because it’s lower than the cooling lines so it will draw that fluid out so you’re not making too much of a mess when you remove the lines.
Filter first, just did both myself and not much fluid came out of the cooler lines. Can't say for sure that less would have came out in the other order for sure, but it worked well for me to do filter first.
Good video ! One question. I had some experienced mechanics tell me not to change the transmission fluid after it's been overdue for so long. They said it would lead to more problems and I just don't believe it. Do you think this is true ? Or do you think it'll be fine and good for the transmission to get a fluid change and filter change ?
@@paulliberacki3396 in the case of the transmission and in my opinion. I say again, this is MY OPINION. if the car is way past is transmission service interval just leave it. No matter what is done, this transmission is going to fail. This was a last ditch effort to save this transmission.
@jth1987leb Thankyou
Most usually if you wait till it is slipping changing the fluid is usually too late.
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Did you leave the cap off on the check tube when you take the pan off? Thank you
The maintenance intervals this guy states is incorrect . There is very few cars that require 20000 mile transmission service . Severe service which is stated as police ,fleet , taxi or frequent towing is 6 years or 60000 miles . Normal service for everyday driving is 10 years or 120000 miles . Read your warranty book people and go by that . Use ATF+4 fluid only in these transmissions . You must be near me as we bought our van at Genessee Valley Dodge too .
Finish the job new o ring for filter insert and tell the correct amount to refill
So what is the pan on the side of the transmission? What gasket would that be if it needs to be replaced?
Did the fluid change fix the shifting issues
Thanks... missing the specs for parts, fluids, quantities and torque... to be perfect
Thank you, sir for your kind video, PLease I have a question, I have Dodge Grand Caravan 2014 with Milage 340000, I have a check engine light with code No. P0868(Transmission Fluid Pressure Low). Is that mean that I should make a fluid change like what you did? the problem that the previous owner did not replace the transmission oil for it. Is there any problem that might be happened to the transmission if I replace the oil like what you did?
I have the same year and was wondering if your transmission is still working fine? I hope I get that many miles out a my van
I had the same code and it was low fluid level. I had a leaking trans cooler hose changed and I think they did not top up the fluid. Added about 1 litre and the code went away. My dealer will check and fill no charge, except cost of trans fluid used.
Would this be the same for a 2017? Also about how long does it take to do the job?
Great video, thank you! Out of curiosity, were you receiving the P0740 "torque converter clutch solenoid" code? I know a complete system flush is a common fix for this. Thank you for your feedback.
Note that the torque converter still contains fluid. This service does not drain everything. Maybe 2/3, I can't exactly recall . . .
Didn't see you replace the circular bushing that goes around the neck of the filter. Did you just use the old one?
I left the old one and used it. the old one was fine and still had a tight fit around the filter neck. I do not take the risk of scratching the machined surface if I don't have to.
@@jth1987leb I got it out about 2 hrs ago. I had to use a short flat bladed screwdriver & a mallet to deform the edge enough to grab it with pliers. I should have just left the old one in. Took me about 20 minutes of monkeying around to get it out. Great channel though, I found your video very helpful. I'll like & subscribe!
@@bpm990d had to do the same... wasn't gonna change but figured that it was designed to be changed
@@grahamholmes9737 how long did it take you to get it out?
good video... however my new filter came with a metal ring and rubber seal at the end. I had to pry the old one off before I could put in the new filter... i took pics but couldn't add to the comment
Thank you for the part number.
Not always is trans fried with shavings in pan like that i've serviced many thru years that lasted tens of thousands miles that way.
Have a question. Got my van used at 100,000mi and fluid is still red but sometimes it does not shift smoothly most when going at slower speeds and does lucas additive help at all? Any tips?
Great video!
Is it okay to only change 5 out of 9 quarts? The whole system holds 9 quarts
I do believe that the 9 qts is for a transmission rebuild with new torque converter. A filter change is always less then the complete system capacity with an automatic transmission.
It’s helpful but if the fluid is real dirty I’d recommend a complete flush
I am a first timer. Liked n subscribed. Any idea why Dodge has done such a stupid annoying thing like dealer Only?
gazoomartian most manufacturers are doing it now
Anyone know what size socket are the two torx screws? Doing this on my Chrysler Town and Country. Same year
I believe it's a T25.
I have the same Q 👍
Ditto, T25.
good vid
Thanks for the video, you just forget the transmission fluid which one the best to add for dodge caravan
I didn’t forget. There’s a link to another RUclipsr who does the full procedure. ATF+4
Two very important steps you did not describe. 1. You did not mention properly cleaning the surfaces where the gasket seal is applied. 2. You did not describe the proper bolt torque pattern - it appeared you just went around the outside - one bolt after another. Some would say neither of these things matter. I believe they do. Otherwise I enjoyed your video.
you're suppose to torque it down across, not one after another
I hope you used ATF+4 in this when you re-filled it.
Darren MacKenzie nope. I find water to have the best viscosity
No joking on this one. If people are going to use this as a learning video, they absolutely need to know that they can't just buy the cheapest fluid they find (which is usually Dexron). ATF+4 ONLY (unless ATF+5 is finally available now) in Chrysler/Dodge transmissions.
How much oil need to add. ?
Right how much oil did you add?
@@DarkpawTheWolf how many quarts of ATF 4?
Did you let the silicone cure for a while on the pan before installing? How long? What type of silicone did you use?
That's a special 5 min silicone he was using. Most want you to cure overnight.
I think you got way to much sealant on the pan. To much will break off and get in the filter and plug it up. A little goes a long way here.
Well done 👍
Excelent great
good video, bad music , thanks
HEY BUDDY HOW MANY QUARTS WILL IT TAKE
Hola buenos días soy de el Salvador , nesecito ayuda cuánto aceite lleva la caja de la gran Caravan 2014
how much transmission fluid did you add
Thank you, how many oil do you need to put in ? 1 litre ?
Nicolas GARNIER link is the description to south main auto channel on how to check fluid levels.
@@jth1987leb thank you
Did you remove old gasget from old filter
Mohammad Hussain no
What's that part right behind the Filter that's screwed in with a torx bolt called? No one can tell me!!!
Value body I believe
@@jth1987leb ic.carid.com/mopar/items/68145886ac_1.jpg the little silver thing.
Looks like it was installed incorrectly last time it was changed. What's it's purpose? Would this have caused any issues with the transmission?
WHAT IS THE TORK ON BOLT PAN
Did your transmission stop working after this
I have a 2015 3.6 motor it seems fine when you take off then it shifts hard and no more shift an try doing it manually does not work an the guy said the transmission was rebuilt a year ago
These transmissions are extremely unreliable. When he says rebuilt what level of rebuild does he mean? Did he just reseal it? Pull everything out and up all new clutch plates in? He also could have rebuilt it and forgot something. This customer had me do the fluid change and I made them understand that it is extremely unlikely to fix the problem. It didn’t fix the problem so a week lasted they traded it in on one something worse, but that’s a another story for another day.
My filter came with a thin rubber gasket . Do i still need to put LIQUID gasket on it like you did that sqeezes out of the tube ?
No. Just gasket.
Takes 5.5 qts atf4
Gregory Wheeler if you a doing the service use the link in the description for the fill procedure. It will not take 5.5 qts doing this.
@@jth1987leb link for oil dipstick mod, not fill procedure?
@@jth1987leb yes when i drop my trans i got 7.8L on my 2013 dodge journey 62te. Then i put it back the same.
Edmond Bacani this procedure does not completely empty the transmission. To refill this transmission is took less than three quarts
What about the type of fluid that goes in it?
Mir Ullah use Mopar.
Atf +4
I got my van used and needed new motor mounts and the transmission mount was the 1 most worn out. Would that damage the transmission and make it shift rough occasionally at slow speeds? The fluid is still red.
Rodney Smith a bad mount can make it feel Luke it’s shifting rough because the whole engine and transmission are moving when they shouldn’t be. The transmission fluid is red.
I had all 4 mounts replace but could that have done damage to the transmission. Now mostly it shifts smooth but will shift rough or jerk at slower speeds sometimes. I appreciate your return comment.
Rodney Smith bad mounts won’t ruin a transmission. Unfortunately these vans where just sold with bad transmissions. This customer ended up selling the van soon after the service because it didn’t fix the problem. The only fix is a rebuild
Such a turd of a vehicle
What's the torque on transmission bolt pans
it depends on where you look. can be as low as 50 in lbs or as high as 125 in lbs. I did not put that info in there because I do not want to mis-inform the views. I did 80 in lbs
Wrench it right before it breaks . .
And it Should be fine.
U never snug tranny bolts using that pattern
do you need wait for gasket dry? before you put oil in there?
Yes. I used a fast drying gasket.
Hello Great tutorial video! It's worth to do this to a 2011 town & country with 140k on it ? Thanks!
Luis Torre in my opinion no. I didn’t want to do the fluid change on this customers van but they were hoping it would fix the issue. It didn’t. So after the fluid change the transmission got worse and they sold it. If your transmission is not acting up don’t touch it. When it comes to automatic transmission fluid changes and flushes its best practice to keep to the manufacture service intervals from day one. If you don’t plan to keep to that schedule don’t mess with the transmission at all. Again, this is my opinion. I’m not a licensed mechanic
@@jth1987leb Thanks! for the reply 💪
@@jth1987leb OK... thanks for your opinion... mine is from 2012 and has 142K miles and no issues shifting... I was thinking to do it as preventive mean, but now I'm not sure about...
I have a 2014 Grand Caravan and in the manual says under normal operating transmission oil change has to be done at 192.000 km. Any ideas?
@@jth1987leb There are some kits available for these that can solve specific issues. Some are not that hard to install, others are. Depending what's going on. I agree once the vehicle has gone past a certain point it's better not to change it.
owners manuals says every 60k for this service.
Yeah, the manual's slated interval is much higher than what a dealer claims, agreed. Go figure. ;)
Then you don't know how to read an owners manual. It's 120,000 miles. If you drive under 'severe duty' conditions then 60,000. A service station will try to talk you into a fluid change at the 60,000 mark but if you're never towing then wait till 120,000 or when the fluid starts looking bad.
@@jayryan7473 so I tow a small trailer, like 1500 lbs with our 2014 DGC. I have 84k miles on the van. I only about 15,000 of those are mine. The van came to me with an aftermarket hitch and 4-pin wiring harness, so I assume the previous owners did some light towing. We are taking the van and small camper across country this summer and i.tryimg to get everything taken care of now. Should I change the filter and clean the pan? I do have access to the service record from the dealer, but I don't think this service was done before I got it. Also considering a transmission cooler, maybe even an upgrade to the lower intake manifold.
How many miles are on your Dodge caravan now?
Kristopher Hasenbuhler over 100000 miles. This was a customer requested service. I strongly advised against it. The transmission was having shifting issues. This repair made it worse. Mopar has had transmission issues with these vans for years. When the transmission starts acting up it’s time to replace it. Customer ended up selling the van.
Any thoughts why the fluid change made the shifting issue worse? My 2011 Chrysler T&C is just over 97k miles and she's just starting to shift a bit hard at times.
How much is the torque in nm? and Where do you fill in the fluid?
how much torque in foot pounds
Thanks for great video just you didn't tell us how many letters we have to add.
Links is in the description مصلاوي عراقي
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Where are you gonna fill the new fluid in? In the small whole?
Great video! It's awesome and how much fresh fluid needs to put it in? Thanks
Link in the description to South Main Auto on the refill procedure
how much fluid?
Did it fix the slipping?
lol no and the customer knew it would likely not work. They traded it in
I think you were pretty vague on putting the oil back in the transmission and you didn't even show it you mumbled something about using the dipstick from the oil for the what are you talking about why didn't
There’s a link in the description!!!!
Question. How strong is the torque ?
It's 9 ft pounds, or 108 inch pounds, depending on your torque wrench :)
Pro Tip: next time you change your oil, replace your drain plug with a drain valve you can open and close by hand. It doesn't have to be a bolt.
You sure that was the proper torque sequence on the pan bolts? Typically you tighten the bolts in a spiral pattern starting from the center. You just tightened them in a circle.
For a cylinder head sure, oil pan it’s not that important
thx can you show us how to make a dipstick than you.. great job...
Johnnyburg palermoan like is in the description to south main autos video on how to do that.
My vw dealer changed my atf @75k miles on vw routan 2012 aka t&c. I believe they didnt do a good job coz now the transmission is leaking oil after 10k miles
Choose your sealant carefully. Some say do not refill with fluid for 24h, others are 90 minutes, others are 5 minutes. Permatex Great Stuff Black. If it leaked the mating surface was probably not clean and dry. Note at the back it keeps dripping forever in the video. Mine does this too. Just need to soak up as much as possible from above and do it quickly. You should take it back to them. Their error . . .
The title says 2014 Van, but in the description, it says 2015 van. Which is it? I have a 2015, wondering if anything has changed between the 2 years. Thanks
The WaterBearer90 no difference.
What’s that tool you we’re using to unlocked pan bolts ?
Torx
t 25
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That's not how you use RTV. Also, you didn't use the torque wrench correctly. Better luck next time.