I visit the Prog Archive site when I need to and usually find what I am looking for. This does not include their lists (or Rolling Stone's)! Your rearrangement made so much more sense. Now I am looking forward to the 10 things you dislike.
1) dark side of the moon 2)trick of the tail 3) moving pictures 4) wind and the withering 5) wish you were here 6) animals 7) misplaced childhood 8)duke 9)close to the edge 10) lamb lies down on broadway 11) clutching at straws 12) selling England by the pound 13) foxtrot 14) court of the crimson king 16)hemispheres 17)signals 18) grace under pressure 19)script for a jesters tear 20)seasons end
I was thinking about how I would rank the 20 and ended up surprising myself pretty much. 1. Thick as a Brick 2. Animals 3. Moving Pictures 4. Relayer 5. Mirage 6. Hemispheres 7. Foxtrot 8. The Dark Side of the Moon 9. Close to the Edge 10. Red 11. Moonmadness 12. Wish You Were Here 13. In the Court of the Crimson King 14. Godbluff 15. Pawn Hearts 16. Selling England by the Pound 17. Fragile 18. Nursery Cryme 19. Larks Tongues in Aspic 20. Per Un Amico I'm with you and Andy on Selling England, by the way. I like it, but I love other Genesis records more, e.g. Foxtrot, The Lamb, Trick, W&W...
Besides the VDGG and PFM albums, which I have never heard, my ranking: 17- Thick as a Brick 16- Larks’ Tongues in Aspic 15- In the Court of the Crimson King 14- Red 13- Foxtrot 12- Selling England by the Pound 11- Animals 10- Fragile 9- Mirage 8- Nursery Cryme 7- Moving Pictures 6- Close to the Edge 5- Hemispheres 4- The Dark Side of the Moon 3- Relayer 2- Wish You Were Here 1- Moonmadness Duke would be number 1 and The Lamb would be a top 5 at least, same for The Wall. A Farewell to Kings is my favorite Rush record too, basically Hemispheres but more accessible and dare I say, better. Also, I’d have countless Tull records over TAAB there: A, Minstrel, Aqualung, A Passion Play, Heavy Horses… But just my opinion, yours is a great list!
I agree about Moonchild. Everyone , even at the time it was released, knew it was just hippy, dippy trippy filler. Though in retrospect, it would make a nice four minute tune. Just condense the last eight minute soundscape to 20 seconds and it's perfect. Oddly enough, as blasphemous as it may sound, and not to question it's greatness, but...the "I Get Up , I Get Down, section of Close To The Edge could use a bit of an edit. One less chorus and maybe 30 seconds of the washy atmospheric stuff. And the organ solo at the end didn't need to be repeated twice. But...that's me and my 2024 sensibilities.
Thank you Scott for a fantastic take on your order for the top 20 for progarchive. As you know I am a huge VdGG and Peter Hammill fan. Looking forward to when you can tackle the top solo albums of Peter Hammill. No easy task. Thankful for the Italian prog insertion to your top 20. Regards, Sal.
Hi Scott. Have you heard the new Beardfish album 'Songs for Beating Hearts'? InsideOut Records. Really fantastic prog rock album. They are from Sweden. All the best from Melbourne, Australia. Love your channel, enthusiasm and work!
Glad to see there’s still some contention between you and another one of my faves podcasts AndyEdwards! I couldn’t be more on board with you, Scott> about topographic oceans and the lamb lies down on Broadway being two of my faves as well as I really dig Transatlantic’s’ the whirlwind ‘, ,I’d like to know where the hell is Tarkus’-by. ELP is probably my favorite masterpiece by them guys.! I’m in that camp that totally loves because I think for me it was the very first progressive rock album, pure and simple I heard-‘ in the court of the Crimson King’, man Greg Lakewith them. I don’t know why, that’s just up my alley.! also this might really piss off some of your progressive rock fans, but I always consider albums like’ to our children’s children’s children ‘by the great Moody blues as a sort of precursor possibly semi progressive British masterpiece album> I’m sure a lot of people will not see that as pure PROG/-, but I do! on a more serious note, oh man, hope this doesn’t get me in trouble but my least favorite thing is thinking about 2025 in America I’ll say no more no laugh out loud needed…., keep up the good work, brother ,you’re doing great!!!!
@@TheProgCorner amen, brother amen, p.s. -where the hell was a Renaissance album on this Prog. archives list:’ prologue, ashes are burning, turn of the cards, and songs of ‘SCHEREZADE’- >oh my God-the only classic Progressive rock group with an angelic, gorgeous woman singer -perhaps one of the best voices in all of rock music !!!please and the Renaissance gang have to be up there Annie Haslem you rock!!!!
Scott you and Andy Edwards are so wrong with regards to Selling England by the Pound , it’s their masterpiece, a 10/ 10 album and would be my overall number 1 , kinda agree with Wish you Were Here being your highest ranked Floyd album but only because The Wall wasn’t in the top 20 😅 , but hey what do I know , great idea to re rank the list tho , guessing this could be done for other lists 🧐.
I totally agree about this one brother or sister friend -“selling England by the pound ‘was the first thing I heard on FM radio and then Genesis actually played at my college in 1973 I think in May April or May and I saw them perform this and things from nursery crime and -foxtrot and I got to tell you they were freaking on fire and I went out and bought the album selling England by the pound ,,come on man For ‘the firtth of fifth’ ,alone my God that’s worth the price of admission OK man good comment !!!!!
This re-ranking video was EPIC Scot! I love VGG's Theme One too such a great little track! Wish you were here is my favourite Floyd too! I do love animals as well! Would of been great to have a farewell to kings on the list like you said! Peace and much love to the number 1 Prog RUclips channel! :)🐍🕺🐍
You're sooooo right about Selling England. So absolutely right! Great rearrangement of the list. I'm pretty much with you all the way apart fom #1. There is no other album ever recorded that deserves that spot than Foxtrot. Close to the Edge meanwhile isn't even in my top 5 of Yes albums...
Jon Anderson & Band Geeks True must be in your top 2 of your top 20 albums of 2024. In fact, I don't know what number one would be if not True. But I leave that spot open cause I trust your judgement if you think it's better than True. And that better be so outstanding that it beats Lamb and can compete with Tales.
"The short songs? That's what makes Fragile so great, dummies." Thank you! Those shorter bits entice me to listen to the whole album start to finish, more than most other prog albums. Although Camel is my favorite classic prog band aside from Oldfield, so that was a rough way to start the ranking 😄
I totally agree! Mood for a day is one of my favorite yes songs. Dare I say it but most of the shorter fragile songs are better then Siberian Khatru in my opinion.
Crimsoz "In The Court", would be my #1. It was the first concert that i went in the Red Wings old barn; The Olympia. McD was my hero, as a multiinstrumentalist. I still have my orig lp, scratched to Shite, after i transcribed and learned every part, for a college credit. my other Gordie HoweTowne hero was the late great Dr Yusef Lateef. Cheers Dude
For me, the choice is quite easy - especially regarding the beginning of the list and the end of the list ;) 1. Larks Tongues in Aspic 2. In the Court of the Crimson King 3. Thick as a Brick 4. Selling England by the Pound 5. Nursery Cryme 6. Red 7. Wish You Were Here 8. Godbluff 9. Pawn Hearts 10. Mirage 11. Moonmadness 12. Per Un Amico 13. Moving Pictures 14. Close to the Edge 15. The Dark Side of the Moon 16. Foxtrot 17. Relayer 18. Fragile 19. Hemispheres 20. Animals
Love your enthusiasm. great recordings on your list but for me only one perfect record YES “ Close to the Edge “ . Reminds me in some ways of Miles Davis “ Kind Of Blue “ record. Can’t be improved.
My top 20 would be fairly different, but sticking with the top 20 albums from Prog Archives I'd go with: 1) Red 2) Larks Tongues in Aspic 3) Foxtrot 4) Animals 5) Close to the Edge 6) Mirage 7) Fragile 8) Dark Side of the Moon 9) Moonmadness 10) Moving Pictures 11) Hemispheres 12) In the Court of the Crimson King 13) Relayer 14) Wish You Were Here 15) Selling England by the Pound 16) Nursery Cryme 17) Thick as a Brick 18) Per Un Amico 19) Godbluff 20) Pawn Hearts
I am lazy Scot. So what I'll do is cut and paste the comment I made on Andy's show onto this one. I feel it's fairly apropos. The 20 that Progarchives has up there are pretty well what we proggers butter our bread with. Zero surprises there. So without further ado this is what I posted on Andy's show: "I love your list Andy. But when it comes to lists especially ones that purport to be the GOAT people really get their panties in a bunch. There is just no way that you are going to please everyone. But does it really matter? Of course not. We love what we love. Do we like it when people nod their heads up in and down and go on about how wonderful it all is? Of course we do. It just makes us feel all fuzzy and warm inside. It’s comforting to know that we are not the only ones that feel the way we do about certain albums. How boring it is to be affirmed. Oh well. Just keep on loving what you love and be happy with that." I've mentioned this kinda stuff before but it is truly how I feel. I don't really care what comes first or last on anyone's particular list. I'm interested in everybody's list. Why? Because, like me they love music! So there you have it. Anyways, off to see BEAT tonight. Looking forward to it. I saw the original 80s KC twice back in the day and looking forward to hearing them once again. Can't wait to hear how Steve will interpret Rob's parts. Should be interesting for sure.
I always felt that Providence should have been on Starless And Bible Black and The Great Deceiver and Lament should have been on Red. Both albums would be more even. Great video though!
@@thecandlemaker1329 At least the improv on SABB is interesting. I just don't get Providence at all. OK, we'll leave SABB as it is, ditch Providence completely and find something better to replace it with on Red!
Am I correct that Relayer has gained way more acclaim over the last few decades? I always loved it but I remember it being considered a weaker 70's Yes album.
Andy Edwards' video made some excellent points on this and agree with both that The Lamb should be very high up the list. Looking at the beanie.. GG a shame these prog icons don't feature on most ' Best ' lists. Always fantastic to see VDGG mentioned. Still Life.. just about takes their top position for me , although agree Godbluff is slightly superior to Pawn Hearts but I'm splitting hairs. Love every release. And no Topographic Oceans !!! Surely that's not right. Is there a double album allergy going on or something. Anyway , interesting watch once again Scot. 😍🎵🎵🤘
Progarchives hates ELP? In fact rather small discography + high level of rivalry from other bands. This said their debut is a masterpiece. And Trilogy too. I'll take them over Rush, Camel and those Italians any day.
@TheProgCorner Tarkus has side B. I don't hate it but I could live without Jeremy Bender or Are you ready Eddie. Brain salad has Benny the bouncer. About progarchives top 100... I think too little Jethro Tull there. Songs from the wood and Heavy Horses should be in. Gentle Giant? I prefer them live. My favourite album by them is Playing the Fool.
My Personal Ranking: (with scores out of 10) 1) Dark Side of the Moon 11/10 2) Wish You Were Here 11/10 3) Animals 11/10 4) In the Court of the Crimson King 11/10 5) Thick As A Brick 11/10 6) Fragile 11/10 7) Selling England by the Pound 10/10 8) Close to the Edge 10/10 9) Relayer 10/10 10) Moving Pictures 9.5/10 11) Nursery Cryme 9.5/10 12) Lark's Tongues in Aspic 9/10 13) Foxtrot 9/10 14) Red 8/10 15) Mirage 8/10 16) Pawn Hearts 7.5/10 17) Hemispheres 7/10 All Good albums. I haven't heard the other three yet but I probably will soon
Credo che sia molto difficile stilare un classifica dei 20 migliori Album, non solo Prog.,ma di qualsiasi altro tipo di musica...In ogni caso da Italiano amante del Prog.(e l'Italia ha sfornato grandissima musica progressive) mi sta bene la P.F.M. in classifica,...ma forse io al posto loro ci avrei messo l'omonimo del Banco del Mutuo Soccorso...Grande Scott... Saluti
"You know in some ways Scot, you and I are very different people". Love the idea and the list but mine looks a liiiiitle different: 20. Animals 19. Wish You Were Here (I find these albums, especially Animals, just so boring...) 18. Moonmadness (Good, not my favourite Camel) 17. Per un Amico 16. Fragile (the band songs are among the best Yes ever did. The solo tracks are almost all wastes of time...) 15. Mirage 14. Pawn Hearts 13. Nursery Cryme 12. Moving Pictures 11. Relayer 10. Court of the Crimson King (agreed, the bookends are two of the best songs in prog but the middle sags) 9. Dark Side of the Moon 8. Selling England by the POund (Cinema Show is maybe my favourite song of all time, but Battle of Epping Forest sucks) 7. Red 6. Hemispheres (my personal fav. is Permanent Waves) 5. Godbluff (I'd personally take Still Life over Godbluff, but Godbluff is a close 2nd) 4. Foxtrot 3. Close to the Edge 2. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 1. Thick as a Brick
Interesting!!!! But I LOVE Epping Forest. Are you one of those “Gabriel sings too many words on The Battle Of Epping Forest” type of people??? Because he doesn’t. And it’s probably my favorite track on SEBTP. Or More Fool Me!!! jk
@@TheProgCorner I just find that there's just not enough interesting going, musically or lyrically, to hold my attention or justify it being the longest song on the album. It's fun the first time but them I'm just like "okay guys lets get on with it". I think the band revisited the concept with the similar and much better "Robbery, Assault and Battery" on TOTT. If Epping Forest was 6-7 minutes long instead of almost 13, it'd be a solid tune.
Mine would look something like this: 1. Selling England by the Pound 2. Close to the Edge 3. Thick as a Brick 4. Per Un Amico 5. Foxtrot 6. In the Court of the Crimson King 7. Fragile 8. Lark's Tongues in Aspic 9. Pawnhearts 10. Moonmadness 11. Godbluff 12. Red 13. Relayer 14. Nursery Chryme 15. Dark Side of the Moon 16. Mirage 17. Hemispheres 18. Wish You Were Here 19. Animals 20. Moving Pictures Definitely less of a fan of PF and Rush than the other bands represented here.
I laughed when you made fun of saying the short tracks on Fragile take away from it, couldn’t agree with you more! Albums should be rated by overall quality, not if every single track is seamlessly perfect from start to finish… those interludes are short for a reason. One or two minutes of palette cleanser then back to the meaty stuff!
You know, there's nothing wrong with the original Progarchives top 20. It's probably an accurate ranking of the older prog fans preferences taking into account the number of people who own or at least have heard the various records - that's the reason why there's only one Italian record - far fewer have heard the original RPI 'classics'. My own top 20 would include at least ten of the twenty but the other ten would be reasonably obscure or lesser known records. For me (and a few others) Pawn Hearts is number 1. What would be interesting is a top 20 from fans under 40.
Fantastic episode, progachives needs a lot of corrections overall, I've personally stopped following the page years ago. As for the fourth album I vote for my favorite album from 71, Pawn Hearts. Cheers my friend and prog on.
I would remove Pawn Hearts, Relayer, Per Un Amico & both Rush. I would replace with the 1st ELP, The Yes Album, Focus Hamburger Concerto, Genesis Trick of The Tail & Jethro Tull Aqualung. I love the Rush albums, but they are not part of the 1st wave of prog so I would rank further down the list. Just opinion, fun to make lists!
@@TheProgCorner Yes They do, they should be in the top 20 IMO, It is crazy Trick & ELP so far down the list. But it's just a list lol. Love Progarhives, best site for prog.
Well now, what a strange list. Question: how is it possible to compile a '20 Great Prog Groups' and exclude ELP? Where, for that matter, are Gentle Giant? I don't particularly care, of course, because these lists are all largely subjective but the exclusion of ELP is frankly bizarre. What does Scott of Myth Of Logic have to say about it, I wonder? By the way, I remember clearly where I was the first time I heard Fragile and Close To The Edge - in my little room in east London in 2002 on a Friday afternoon - with these 2 CDs I'd bought from HMV in Oxford Street purely because UJ (who was then our flute player and main man in UNIT) urged me to do so. I sat there aghast! I could not believe what I heard. I found myself unable and unwilling to listen to anything else for the next 3 days. So, I thought to myself...that's what all the fuss is about! Next week I purchased ALL the other Yes albums from 1969 to 1978.
In general, I think your “fix” is much closer to my opinion. My only “fix” to yours would be to move Moving Pictures up and Animals down. But that’s minor.
The prog archives has a good list but I would personally have a very hard time making a list myself. There’s way too much good music and it kind of depends on what I’m listening to at a specific time.
My reranking: Close to the Edge Selling England By The Pound In the Court of the Crimson King The Dark Side of the Moon Foxtrot Red Relayer Hemispheres Mirage Nursery Cryme Thick as a Brick Fragile Larks' Tongues in Aspic Wish You Were Here Animals Moonmadness Per Un Amico Pawn Hearts Godbluff Moving Pictures
Prog Archives is a horrible site. It looks terrible and they don’t allow albums by the same band to have different genres. Rate Your Music is so much better.
Thick as a brick. Wonder how much was Ian really "sort of making fun of Prog" and how much was in some way just part of his nature, his iconoclastic tendencies to conceive things that way? ...APP was the follow up after all.
Andy Edwards, haa! if that's his real name? This list and the order of rankings, as well as all others, are all wrong . EVERYBODY knows my neighbours all listen to the best music...MINE ! 😉 RUSH #1.
I visit the Prog Archive site when I need to and usually find what I am looking for. This does not include their lists (or Rolling Stone's)!
Your rearrangement made so much more sense. Now I am looking forward to the 10 things you dislike.
Believe it or not it’s really hard coming up with ten things I dislike enough to be included in the episode.
Another great video Scott.
Andy is on the train to Squaresville.
Scott is the heaviest thing since sliced raisin bread.
23 Skidoo!!!!
1) dark side of the moon
2)trick of the tail
3) moving pictures
4) wind and the withering
5) wish you were here
6) animals
7) misplaced childhood
8)duke
9)close to the edge
10) lamb lies down on broadway
11) clutching at straws
12) selling England by the pound
13) foxtrot
14) court of the crimson king
16)hemispheres
17)signals
18) grace under pressure
19)script for a jesters tear
20)seasons end
Not enough Yes on that list for me. Take out anything after 1981 and put in Fragile and Relayer. ;)
Great Ranking! There should really be AT LEAST one ELP and Gentle Giant album in the top 20...
It’s shocking. PA only has one ELP album in their Top 100. Unacceptable!!!!
Brain Salad Surgery/Trilogy should be in every top ten.
Don't Forget Tarkus
Those first four studio albums are all 10/10 and deserve to be in any Top 100. Progarchives hates ELP!!! But loves Opeth.
I agree with what everyone is saying. Tarkus, Brain Salad Surgery, and Works Volume 1 are all incredible masterpieces.
I really laughed out loud at your OUTRO today! 🤣
Thank you!!!!!🙏
I was thinking about how I would rank the 20 and ended up surprising myself pretty much.
1. Thick as a Brick
2. Animals
3. Moving Pictures
4. Relayer
5. Mirage
6. Hemispheres
7. Foxtrot
8. The Dark Side of the Moon
9. Close to the Edge
10. Red
11. Moonmadness
12. Wish You Were Here
13. In the Court of the Crimson King
14. Godbluff
15. Pawn Hearts
16. Selling England by the Pound
17. Fragile
18. Nursery Cryme
19. Larks Tongues in Aspic
20. Per Un Amico
I'm with you and Andy on Selling England, by the way. I like it, but I love other Genesis records more, e.g. Foxtrot, The Lamb, Trick, W&W...
I love it.
Besides the VDGG and PFM albums, which I have never heard, my ranking:
17- Thick as a Brick
16- Larks’ Tongues in Aspic
15- In the Court of the Crimson King
14- Red
13- Foxtrot
12- Selling England by the Pound
11- Animals
10- Fragile
9- Mirage
8- Nursery Cryme
7- Moving Pictures
6- Close to the Edge
5- Hemispheres
4- The Dark Side of the Moon
3- Relayer
2- Wish You Were Here
1- Moonmadness
Duke would be number 1 and The Lamb would be a top 5 at least, same for The Wall. A Farewell to Kings is my favorite Rush record too, basically Hemispheres but more accessible and dare I say, better. Also, I’d have countless Tull records over TAAB there: A, Minstrel, Aqualung, A Passion Play, Heavy Horses… But just my opinion, yours is a great list!
Fantastic!!!!!!!
I agree about Moonchild. Everyone , even at the time it was released, knew it was just hippy, dippy trippy filler. Though in retrospect, it would make a nice four minute tune. Just condense the last eight minute soundscape to 20 seconds and it's perfect. Oddly enough, as blasphemous as it may sound, and not to question it's greatness, but...the "I Get Up , I Get Down, section of Close To The Edge could use a bit of an edit. One less chorus and maybe 30 seconds of the washy atmospheric stuff. And the organ solo at the end didn't need to be repeated twice. But...that's me and my 2024 sensibilities.
I’ve always kind of agreed with this.
Thank you Scott for a fantastic take on your order for the top 20 for progarchive. As you know I am a huge VdGG and Peter Hammill fan. Looking forward to when you can tackle the top solo albums of Peter Hammill. No easy task. Thankful for the Italian prog insertion to your top 20. Regards, Sal.
PH ranking video is coming!!!! (I still have a few I need to hear…)
Happy Scot making my day happy. 😀
Derrick!!!!!
The fourth one should be The Yes Album.
Right???
OK, Yes released 2 great albums in 1971. But for balance, I think it would be better to have 4 different bands having their albums ranked.
Hi Scott. Have you heard the new Beardfish album 'Songs for Beating Hearts'? InsideOut Records. Really fantastic prog rock album. They are from Sweden. All the best from Melbourne, Australia. Love your channel, enthusiasm and work!
It’s awesome!!!! I reviewed it a couple weeks ago: ruclips.net/video/pzod0jZt_FM/видео.htmlsi=_MfBNXRs0Pv21NiY
Hey Scot! Resting. Starting to feel a little better. Pain is less.👍😎
Good!!!! Take it easy!!!! Relax. Enjoy life!!!!
@@TheProgCornerWill shoot you an email regarding the outtro.👍😎
Hey Scot! Love it! Cheers
Hey now!!!
Glad to see there’s still some contention between you and another one of my faves podcasts AndyEdwards! I couldn’t be more on board with you, Scott> about topographic oceans and the lamb lies down on Broadway being two of my faves as well as I really dig Transatlantic’s’ the whirlwind ‘, ,I’d like to know where the hell is Tarkus’-by. ELP is probably my favorite masterpiece by them guys.! I’m in that camp that totally loves because I think for me it was the very first progressive rock album, pure and simple I heard-‘ in the court of the Crimson King’, man Greg Lakewith them. I don’t know why, that’s just up my alley.! also this might really piss off some of your progressive rock fans, but I always consider albums like’ to our children’s children’s children ‘by the great Moody blues as a sort of precursor possibly semi progressive British masterpiece album> I’m sure a lot of people will not see that as pure PROG/-, but I do! on a more serious note, oh man, hope this doesn’t get me in trouble but my least favorite thing is thinking about 2025 in America I’ll say no more no laugh out loud needed…., keep up the good work, brother ,you’re doing great!!!!
The Moody Blues were pioneers!!!! Without them I’m not sure Prog would have happened…
@@TheProgCorner amen, brother amen, p.s. -where the hell was a Renaissance album on this Prog. archives list:’ prologue, ashes are burning, turn of the cards, and songs of ‘SCHEREZADE’- >oh my God-the only classic Progressive rock group with an angelic, gorgeous woman singer -perhaps one of the best voices in all of rock music !!!please and the Renaissance gang have to be up there Annie Haslem you rock!!!!
Scott you and Andy Edwards are so wrong with regards to Selling England by the Pound , it’s their masterpiece, a 10/ 10 album and would be my overall number 1 , kinda agree with Wish you Were Here being your highest ranked Floyd album but only because The Wall wasn’t in the top 20 😅 , but hey what do I know , great idea to re rank the list tho , guessing this could be done for other lists 🧐.
Absolutely!!!!!!!👍
I totally agree about this one brother or sister friend -“selling England by the pound ‘was the first thing I heard on FM radio and then Genesis actually played at my college in 1973 I think in May April or May and I saw them perform this and things from nursery crime and -foxtrot and I got to tell you they were freaking on fire and I went out and bought the album selling England by the pound ,,come on man For ‘the firtth of fifth’ ,alone my God that’s worth the price of admission OK man good comment !!!!!
This re-ranking video was EPIC Scot! I love VGG's Theme One too such a great little track! Wish you were here is my favourite Floyd too! I do love animals as well! Would of been great to have a farewell to kings on the list like you said! Peace and much love to the number 1 Prog RUclips channel! :)🐍🕺🐍
Thank you!!!! You rule.
I don't think I've ever agreed with a ranking list although I can't make one to save my life so I come to you!
Nice!!!!!
You're sooooo right about Selling England. So absolutely right! Great rearrangement of the list. I'm pretty much with you all the way apart fom #1. There is no other album ever recorded that deserves that spot than Foxtrot. Close to the Edge meanwhile isn't even in my top 5 of Yes albums...
I have CTTE as my third favorite Yes album but…it’s Close To The Edge!!!!
Jon Anderson & Band Geeks True must be in your top 2 of your top 20 albums of 2024. In fact, I don't know what number one would be if not True. But I leave that spot open cause I trust your judgement if you think it's better than True. And that better be so outstanding that it beats Lamb and can compete with Tales.
True will DEFINITELY be ranked very high. How high???? Hmmmmmm….
@@TheProgCornerTRUE is my album of the year! Let the cover go. Has nothing to do with what's inside!!!!!!👍☮️👑🐍🙏😎
Can you do the top 20 albums of every subgenre on ProgArchives?
That’s not a bad idea.
"The short songs? That's what makes Fragile so great, dummies."
Thank you! Those shorter bits entice me to listen to the whole album start to finish, more than most other prog albums.
Although Camel is my favorite classic prog band aside from Oldfield, so that was a rough way to start the ranking 😄
I’m sorry!!!!! It’s not fair!!!!! To much greatness!!!!!!
I totally agree! Mood for a day is one of my favorite yes songs. Dare I say it but most of the shorter fragile songs are better then Siberian Khatru in my opinion.
Crimsoz "In The Court", would be my #1. It was the first concert that i went in the Red Wings old barn; The Olympia. McD was my hero, as a multiinstrumentalist. I still have my orig lp, scratched to Shite, after i transcribed and learned every part, for a college credit. my other Gordie HoweTowne hero was the late great Dr Yusef Lateef. Cheers Dude
Wow!!!!!
For me, the choice is quite easy - especially regarding the beginning of the list and the end of the list ;)
1. Larks Tongues in Aspic
2. In the Court of the Crimson King
3. Thick as a Brick
4. Selling England by the Pound
5. Nursery Cryme
6. Red
7. Wish You Were Here
8. Godbluff
9. Pawn Hearts
10. Mirage
11. Moonmadness
12. Per Un Amico
13. Moving Pictures
14. Close to the Edge
15. The Dark Side of the Moon
16. Foxtrot
17. Relayer
18. Fragile
19. Hemispheres
20. Animals
Outstanding.
@@TheProgCorner This person has Yes way too low (imo).
I agree but I honestly think all 20 of them are indeed 10/10 (or close to it…)
Love your enthusiasm. great recordings on your list but for me only one perfect record YES “ Close to the Edge “ . Reminds me in some ways of Miles Davis “ Kind Of Blue “ record. Can’t be improved.
Progarchives has Kind Of Blue at #25 (by the way!!!)
You can't argue with the Scott Shuffle !
A silly episode but that was fun!
My top 20 would be fairly different, but sticking with the top 20 albums from Prog Archives I'd go with:
1) Red
2) Larks Tongues in Aspic
3) Foxtrot
4) Animals
5) Close to the Edge
6) Mirage
7) Fragile
8) Dark Side of the Moon
9) Moonmadness
10) Moving Pictures
11) Hemispheres
12) In the Court of the Crimson King
13) Relayer
14) Wish You Were Here
15) Selling England by the Pound
16) Nursery Cryme
17) Thick as a Brick
18) Per Un Amico
19) Godbluff
20) Pawn Hearts
Fantastic!!!!!!
Can’t believe Prog Archives doesn’t have a single Gentle Giant album in the top 20!
Craziness!!! And no ELP either. Boo!
i think every track on selling england is top tier
Surprised no ELP or GG in the top 20. If it were my list I'd have included them and maybe I Robot by APP.
👍👍👍
Well done
Yes!!!!
I am lazy Scot. So what I'll do is cut and paste the comment I made on Andy's show onto this one. I feel it's fairly apropos. The 20 that Progarchives has up there are pretty well what we proggers butter our bread with. Zero surprises there. So without further ado this is what I posted on Andy's show:
"I love your list Andy. But when it comes to lists especially ones that purport to be the GOAT people really get their panties in a bunch. There is just no way that you are going to please everyone. But does it really matter? Of course not. We love what we love. Do we like it when people nod their heads up in and down and go on about how wonderful it all is? Of course we do. It just makes us feel all fuzzy and warm inside. It’s comforting to know that we are not the only ones that feel the way we do about certain albums. How boring it is to be affirmed. Oh well. Just keep on loving what you love and be happy with that."
I've mentioned this kinda stuff before but it is truly how I feel. I don't really care what comes first or last on anyone's particular list. I'm interested in everybody's list. Why? Because, like me they love music! So there you have it. Anyways, off to see BEAT tonight. Looking forward to it. I saw the original 80s KC twice back in the day and looking forward to hearing them once again. Can't wait to hear how Steve will interpret Rob's parts. Should be interesting for sure.
The videos on RUclips are stunning. Have fun!!!!!
Aawesome video list Scot have a great day also I have a cold ❤😢😥🤧👃
Bummer!!!!! Feel better!!!!
#1 Thick as a Brick
#2 Foxtrot
#3 Selling England
#4 Dark Side of the Moon
#5 Close to the Edge
I love it!!!!
I always felt that Providence should have been on Starless And Bible Black and The Great Deceiver and Lament should have been on Red. Both albums would be more even. Great video though!
That’s a great suggestion!!!!
Even more improv on SABB? That would make it unlistenable...
@@thecandlemaker1329 At least the improv on SABB is interesting. I just don't get Providence at all. OK, we'll leave SABB as it is, ditch Providence completely and find something better to replace it with on Red!
Am I correct that Relayer has gained way more acclaim over the last few decades? I always loved it but I remember it being considered a weaker 70's Yes album.
I think you’re correct about that.
Andy Edwards' video made some excellent points on this and agree with both that The Lamb should be very high up the list. Looking at the beanie.. GG a shame these prog icons don't feature on most ' Best ' lists. Always fantastic to see VDGG mentioned. Still Life.. just about takes their top position for me , although agree Godbluff is slightly superior to Pawn Hearts but I'm splitting hairs. Love every release. And no Topographic Oceans !!! Surely that's not right. Is there a double album allergy going on or something. Anyway , interesting watch once again Scot. 😍🎵🎵🤘
Thank you!!!!🙏
I would sell my soul to watch a video where you really did get to give king Charles a lifestyle makeover.
Has to be Nursery Cryme... with a well known Bognor restaurant owner !!! Or I'll be very very very upset. 😍🎵🎵🤘
Harold The Barrel should be joining us so - yeah it’s Nursery Cryme!!!! The Dutch nightmare hasn’t been on the program for a while so I’m excited.
@TheProgCorner AWESOME !!! 😍🎵🎵🤘
I sincerely hope that the 4th album will be Nursery Cryme.
It will be!!!!!!
Progarchives hates ELP? In fact rather small discography + high level of rivalry from other bands. This said their debut is a masterpiece. And Trilogy too. I'll take them over Rush, Camel and those Italians any day.
The debut, Tarkus, Trilogy and Brain Salad Surgery should be in their Top 100!!!!
@TheProgCorner Tarkus has side B. I don't hate it but I could live without Jeremy Bender or Are you ready Eddie. Brain salad has Benny the bouncer. About progarchives top 100... I think too little Jethro Tull there. Songs from the wood and Heavy Horses should be in. Gentle Giant? I prefer them live. My favourite album by them is Playing the Fool.
@МаксРогозин-е1ю I LOVE JEREMY BENDER!!!!!
My Personal Ranking: (with scores out of 10)
1) Dark Side of the Moon 11/10
2) Wish You Were Here 11/10
3) Animals 11/10
4) In the Court of the Crimson King 11/10
5) Thick As A Brick 11/10
6) Fragile 11/10
7) Selling England by the Pound 10/10
8) Close to the Edge 10/10
9) Relayer 10/10
10) Moving Pictures 9.5/10
11) Nursery Cryme 9.5/10
12) Lark's Tongues in Aspic 9/10
13) Foxtrot 9/10
14) Red 8/10
15) Mirage 8/10
16) Pawn Hearts 7.5/10
17) Hemispheres 7/10
All Good albums. I haven't heard the other three yet but I probably will soon
Awesome!!!!!!
What about "Hatfield and the North"?
PA has the debut at #75. Too low!!!!
Credo che sia molto difficile stilare un classifica dei 20 migliori Album, non solo Prog.,ma di qualsiasi altro tipo di musica...In ogni caso da Italiano amante del Prog.(e l'Italia ha sfornato grandissima musica progressive) mi sta bene la P.F.M. in classifica,...ma forse io al posto loro ci avrei messo l'omonimo del Banco del Mutuo Soccorso...Grande Scott... Saluti
Banco!!!! Yes!!!! Darwin!!!!
"You know in some ways Scot, you and I are very different people".
Love the idea and the list but mine looks a liiiiitle different:
20. Animals
19. Wish You Were Here (I find these albums, especially Animals, just so boring...)
18. Moonmadness (Good, not my favourite Camel)
17. Per un Amico
16. Fragile (the band songs are among the best Yes ever did. The solo tracks are almost all wastes of time...)
15. Mirage
14. Pawn Hearts
13. Nursery Cryme
12. Moving Pictures
11. Relayer
10. Court of the Crimson King (agreed, the bookends are two of the best songs in prog but the middle sags)
9. Dark Side of the Moon
8. Selling England by the POund (Cinema Show is maybe my favourite song of all time, but Battle of Epping Forest sucks)
7. Red
6. Hemispheres (my personal fav. is Permanent Waves)
5. Godbluff (I'd personally take Still Life over Godbluff, but Godbluff is a close 2nd)
4. Foxtrot
3. Close to the Edge
2. Larks' Tongues in Aspic
1. Thick as a Brick
Interesting!!!! But I LOVE Epping Forest. Are you one of those “Gabriel sings too many words on The Battle Of Epping Forest” type of people??? Because he doesn’t. And it’s probably my favorite track on SEBTP. Or More Fool Me!!! jk
@@TheProgCorner I just find that there's just not enough interesting going, musically or lyrically, to hold my attention or justify it being the longest song on the album. It's fun the first time but them I'm just like "okay guys lets get on with it". I think the band revisited the concept with the similar and much better "Robbery, Assault and Battery" on TOTT. If Epping Forest was 6-7 minutes long instead of almost 13, it'd be a solid tune.
@@MusicVersa picnic!!!!
Mine would look something like this:
1. Selling England by the Pound
2. Close to the Edge
3. Thick as a Brick
4. Per Un Amico
5. Foxtrot
6. In the Court of the Crimson King
7. Fragile
8. Lark's Tongues in Aspic
9. Pawnhearts
10. Moonmadness
11. Godbluff
12. Red
13. Relayer
14. Nursery Chryme
15. Dark Side of the Moon
16. Mirage
17. Hemispheres
18. Wish You Were Here
19. Animals
20. Moving Pictures
Definitely less of a fan of PF and Rush than the other bands represented here.
PFM!!!!! I love it.
Von Hertzen Bro-In Murmuration 9+|10
Thanks scot👍
Great album!!!!!!! I love VHB!!!
I should give that list a pubmeeple as well.
What is that?
@@TheProgCorner pubmeeple is a Ranking Engine website.
I laughed when you made fun of saying the short tracks on Fragile take away from it, couldn’t agree with you more! Albums should be rated by overall quality, not if every single track is seamlessly perfect from start to finish… those interludes are short for a reason. One or two minutes of palette cleanser then back to the meaty stuff!
That’s absolutely right!!!!!!
You know, there's nothing wrong with the original Progarchives top 20. It's probably an accurate ranking of the older prog fans preferences taking into account the number of people who own or at least have heard the various records - that's the reason why there's only one Italian record - far fewer have heard the original RPI 'classics'. My own top 20 would include at least ten of the twenty but the other ten would be reasonably obscure or lesser known records. For me (and a few others) Pawn Hearts is number 1. What would be interesting is a top 20 from fans under 40.
That would be very interesting!!!!
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I would place The Lamb Lies Down on number 1 (or atleast top 3)
Absolutely!!!! (It’s my second favorite album ever.)
No algorithm for me fella,I’m here by my own sweet choice, now prey tell me what you have to say ❤😂 peace bro , the cure in orange 😂😂👍🏻☀️☀️☀️
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Fantastic episode, progachives needs a lot of corrections overall, I've personally stopped following the page years ago. As for the fourth album I vote for my favorite album from 71, Pawn Hearts. Cheers my friend and prog on.
Pawn Hearts lost out to Nursery Cryme for the Sunday show!!!!!
I would remove Pawn Hearts, Relayer, Per Un Amico & both Rush. I would replace with the 1st ELP, The Yes Album, Focus Hamburger Concerto, Genesis Trick of The Tail & Jethro Tull Aqualung. I love the Rush albums, but they are not part of the 1st wave of prog so I would rank further down the list. Just opinion, fun to make lists!
PA has Aqualung at #22, The Yes Album at #32, A Trick Of The Tail at #58, Focus at #88 & ELP at #95!!! Crazy.
@@TheProgCorner Yes They do, they should be in the top 20 IMO, It is crazy Trick & ELP so far down the list. But it's just a list lol. Love Progarhives, best site for prog.
Well now, what a strange list. Question: how is it possible to compile a '20 Great Prog Groups' and exclude ELP? Where, for that matter, are Gentle Giant? I don't particularly care, of course, because these lists are all largely subjective but the exclusion of ELP is frankly bizarre. What does Scott of Myth Of Logic have to say about it, I wonder?
By the way, I remember clearly where I was the first time I heard Fragile and Close To The Edge - in my little room in east London in 2002 on a Friday afternoon - with these 2 CDs I'd bought from HMV in Oxford Street purely because UJ (who was then our flute player and main man in UNIT) urged me to do so. I sat there aghast! I could not believe what I heard. I found myself unable and unwilling to listen to anything else for the next 3 days. So, I thought to myself...that's what all the fuss is about! Next week I purchased ALL the other Yes albums from 1969 to 1978.
Yes!!!!!!!!👍
Evil Andy "Clickbait" Edwards at it again.😑
The Prog Corner vs Evil Pt. 2
In general, I think your “fix” is much closer to my opinion. My only “fix” to yours would be to move Moving Pictures up and Animals down. But that’s minor.
Nice!!!👍
The prog archives has a good list but I would personally have a very hard time making a list myself. There’s way too much good music and it kind of depends on what I’m listening to at a specific time.
Exactly!!!!!👍
This aligns with my preferences much better than their top 20. Alas, there's too little Jethro Tull, and LTIA is too high up for my taste.
I’m extremely biased regarding LTIA - as if my avatar didn’t give that up!!!!
Larks has be top ten, otherwise, hair splitting(thanks Scot)
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Animals is the most progressive album of pink Floyd ,wich are in my Opinion the most known PSYCHEDELIC band in the world
My reranking:
Close to the Edge
Selling England By The Pound
In the Court of the Crimson King
The Dark Side of the Moon
Foxtrot
Red
Relayer
Hemispheres
Mirage
Nursery Cryme
Thick as a Brick
Fragile
Larks' Tongues in Aspic
Wish You Were Here
Animals
Moonmadness
Per Un Amico
Pawn Hearts
Godbluff
Moving Pictures
Fantastic!!!!!
Prog Archives is a horrible site. It looks terrible and they don’t allow albums by the same band to have different genres. Rate Your Music is so much better.
Yes and no.
Thick as a brick. Wonder how much was Ian really "sort of making fun of Prog" and how much was in some way just part of his nature, his iconoclastic tendencies to conceive things that way? ...APP was the follow up after all.
A good observation!!!!!!
Andy Edwards, haa! if that's his real name? This list and the order of rankings, as well as all others, are all wrong . EVERYBODY knows my neighbours all listen to the best music...MINE ! 😉 RUSH #1.
Nice!!!!👍
most predictable list ever....the choice of selling england over nursery cryme or trick is a sign of this.
And The Lamb!!!! Unacceptable!!!!
If Gabriel was on A Trick Of The Tail it would be regarded as their best w.