right -- all that i want you to hear is bull crap too - i want you to DO! be the adult and guidance that a child needs - how many generations came before and the children still starting from scratch?-- BULLSHIT
This mother is just like mine. As a black woman I can only speak from my own experience and I hate to see other women who look like me have the same stories generation after generation. It’s one of the reasons why I don’t desire to be a mother myself. Wishing everyone involved healing and restoration.
This reminds me so much of my family dynamic back in the day. I wish as a black community, we could change a lot of the ways that we interact with our kids and break those generational issues. Its like a lot of black parents have kids and resent having them and then it shows in how some of us are raised. Its a sad cycle
That was so difficult to watch! While not my experience, I know SO many woman that have lived this life and still struggle as adults w/children of their own - some repeating the cycle. Praying for healing for this family!
This young woman needs to never enter her mother's house ever again!! If that was my mother, she would have kicked my ass and then call the police. How do you allow your children to run your home and curse you out. You're also grown. Why are you still living at home?!
Beating children makes them scared of u, not respect u. If ur scared of someone ofc ur not gonna talk back. There are ways to teach your child how to be respectful without traumatizing them. Some kids who get whoopings either act out, or don’t speak up for themselves.
PARENTS changed behavior is the best apology. I've said this to my Mom time & time again. Love you enough to fulfill you, but in a way that also protects me. Its a telltale sign when NONE of her Daughters greeted her. She treats them like good good girlfriends & not her kids. The younger Daughter & the Mom are identical in behavior & attitude. Icelynn is the oddball, the unseen 1 & the 1 that understands that your Family may not be the one's to help you get through life. Pretty soon she'll be done w/ all of them.
Im 18 and my mother is not as abusive as most of the mothers on this show but i still want nothing to do with her simply because of the emotional abuse she put me through. It makes it extremely difficult for me to keep moving in my life. I used to be the most ambitious girl in my school. Studying hard and starting small businesses and side hustles but eventually her words took all that ambition away. I sometimes get nightmares about my mom and i find it difficult to find ambition again
Heavenly child please please protect your spark. It will light up again. Hold it close and please it saddens me so much to hear another girl lose her spark… but it comes back. You are always you ❤❤❤
🗯I think the daughters are being disrespectful, and talking to their mom crazy... They probably get some of that from, but they need to remember that they're responsibility for their actions and words too!... (she has a story and a past just like they do.)
Bro im the youngest, and yeah my mama don’t beat me but, she ignores me, she never wants to be with me, she yells at me. Earlier last year I was going through a really really bad place I would sh, stop eating, cry, etc. she eventually found my b!ad3s and I felt so bad. I said sorry so many times (it was a day before my birthday and I had just broken up with my bf less than 2 hrs before this) she yelled at me and instead of listening to me, she said that if I wanted to keep hurting myself even if I wanted to KMS she wouldn’t care. On my birthday she didn’t even say happy birthday to me. Yet she still expects me to be the same little girl.
I love my Mother like my heart but I do feel for these 3 Ladies because me and my Sister going through same thing with my Mother for last over 20 years since my Dad divorced her, ever since, Me and my Dad been much closer than with me and my Mother.
There is a generation that curse their father, and don't bless their mother, they are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not wash from their filthiness ( 30:11--14).😢
The baby girl is the way she is because she didn’t get those butt whippings. She’s overtly disrespectful having possibly had the closest relationship with her mom. The moms abusive discipline has traumatized them and it’s good that the middle daughter has sought counseling and therapy to heal those mother wounds.
I’m tired of ppl blaming the mom and want accountability from her… call your daddy.. none of these stories have a daddy!! The mom can only be accountable for 50%
Mom did what she had to do. It's a lot being a parent. No one is perfect but at the same time every one needs therapy and please maintain your respect for one another
Some parents do not want their kids (no matter how old they are) to say anything to them especially when they did wrong. My mother date a pedophile from prison. I got a whipping because I stood up for myself. I was the reason for that man not marrying my mother
Daughters must also understand the challenge of single mothers. They have past hurts and it becomes a struggle to raise the kids. Both mothers and daughters must support one another in their weaknesses.
It’s hard for a child to grasp adult themes. So it may take the daughters well into parenthood, adulthood (if ever) to grasp the adult themes that were present during their childhood. Sometimes us parents just have to own it, apologize and be better without our children understanding why we parented the way we did. Just food for thought.
@@LadyBDavis my child won't accept my apology, for something that I don't even know that I did. Told me don't apologize to her no more. It's like she want me to beat myself up or feel the way she want me to feel Abt issues she can't or won't communicate to me. So, I've made peace with myself, and love her from afar. I will be here ready and willing when she ready, without disrespect. Fyi, it's not just me, the mommy, she has an issue with her father, her siblings, aunts, grandparents and even coworkers.
And why are the daughters concerned about the mom being promiscuous? That’s a grown woman. I have issues with my mom but I can care less about who my mom dated as long as they don’t disrespect me. I’ve seen plenty of boyfriends around my mom before she got married and remarried.
The middle child ❤ she is the one who will break the generational curse. Very articulate, and soft in how she express herself, making the changes to not be like her mother, and actually healing from that trauma. Kudos to her !
The middle child articulates and expresses herself so well and I believe the middle child is able to deliver her truth in a way that “it holds up a mirror “ and her mother keeps interrupting her because she doesn’t like the way her truth feels and what it forces her to see within herself.
The only reason why Icelynn was getting interrupted EVERY SINGLE TIME SHE TALKED, was because her mother knew that the way she delivers herself is FAR more better than the mother herself. So she decided to cut Icelynn off so the audience and Karamo won’t have to hear what she says, knowing what she is going to say mostly is true.
The sad part is some mothers like her notice that characteristic and try to take their child's voice away starting at a very early age to feel more alpha especially if their parenting skills are being questioned by their own kid they see it as a challenge to defend their title and territory over them as a mother.
@@sharonfranks4031 So you don't think as a child you'll be affected by having to see every sexual partner your mom has and then a different one on top of that?
@@bigdawg9826 as a child who controls mama? As a child what do you know about mama's issues really? but she still raised you to be strong, voice your opinions and puck you up if you don't have the mind to get the hell on out mama's house and leave mama's crazy azz alone so her sanity can come back you get what you get. But she loves ❤️ 😍 you and got your back
Yah my mom never remembered as I went through my career in dancing since 6 and still present day dancing.. calling me fat, disgusting, a pig, because I exercised so much and burned so many calories and would get hungrier then normal 🤣. Compare me to other girls and tell me I needed to look like them or be like them. Call me stupid, an idiot. Oh boy narcissist mothers.
The mother was abusive.Let's call a spade a spade. Nothing calls for beating your child in the shower...nothing. That was the mother unleashing her rage on them
@@jaygotgame8632 this is the narrative that must stop in black households. We took the whip from massa and unleashed it in the home, on children, and try to call assult “love”. Misquote Bible verses to justify what would be a charge in the real world. And do that to children. It's abuse. Call a thing a thing. Beat the community into submission and no we have now leadership.
Can’t stand that there’s almost a glorification of abusive mothers in the Black community. It’s seen as “strict taking no disrespect” etc. This mother looked proud so many times recalling what she did it was embarrassing to watch. And lady, no you’re not the reason Icelynn is mature and articulate - SHE did the work.
There’s definitely a general consensus among many Black people about this. On here the audience will even clap at times hearing about abuse but they consider it “discipline”. How do you not know this when it’s very common?
@JollyMolly Ramram What's sad is that many in that same audience would cringe if the children weren't black. I've noticed how the media spins the narrative dependent up on the race of the family. I know that doesn't apply here, but we as a community need to wise up.
That daughter isn't healed. If she were that healed, she wouldn't have humiliated her mother on national TV by calling her promiscuous and telling the world she had 40 boyfriends! True love covers.
@@SuperShepard1 By the words of someone who clearly hasn't face trauma and what its like to recover from abuse and have been given everything in life with a gold medal.
That Icelynn... she stands out from ALL of them. She is the curse breaker. If you see this.... keep moving in the direction the Most High leads. ( It's not been in vain. ) Your family needs you to.
I don’t know how parents expect their kids to be the most respectful people when they aren’t respectful themselves. The mother is irking me she had to talk over every single one of them, your daughters are just as disrespectful as you ma’am
The mother may try to talk over Icelynn because she is very intelligent and self aware. She’s jealous and knows Iceland will call her out on her actions so she has to over talk her.
I agree. The fact that she can articulately identify the mom’s issues, and then request accountability probably makes the mom feel judged, and deficient. Maybe in her daughter, she sees the emotional intelligence that she wishes she could have had at her age, but rather than celebrating and being proud of her daughter, she pushes back against anything that she says. I applaud the daughter for recognizing her triggers, and for choosing to protect her peace, rather than engaging her mom.
The mom is acting like she's their sister, calling them names and fighting with them. She needs to be the bigger person as the parent, and show them geuine love and respect.
@@laawaer7265 yeah I feel like parents like that deserve to be left to fend for themselves and to never waste time on them. They will never change. Hurt people hurt people, but don’t nobody care at this point.
The middle daughter mentioning boundaries is actually very helpful to me. Thanks for sharing that. Boundaries are really so important. Some family dynamics view boundaries as a disrespect or being inconsiderate and not helpful even though you may be drained or it's taking everything out of you.
I noticed that all of her children are hostile towards her. Even Icelynn, not disrespectful but hostile. Hostile tones, her voice is shaky. But they all grew up in an environment where they constantly have to defend themselves against their OWN mother. Whether it been emotionally or physically. This is extremely hurtful; I experienced something similar and I'm sure most black children with either one if not both parents are toxic, experience these traumas.
11:50 HI, daughter of a narcissistic mother here:) BIG HINT: notice how the brother isn’t in the room, and it’s ONLY the daughters that have a bad relationship with the mother. mothers cherish the bond with their sons more than with their daughters.. that’s a BIG trait of narcissism…
What the middle child said hit me like a ton of bricks. I'm also very passive and permissive with my kids because of the way I was raised. I don't want them to feel the way I did but that too is not always good. There has to be a balance.
When I was young my dad whip us with 3switches and with our clothes off because that's what we needed but it's 5 of us 3 girls and 2 boys we never went to jail and was not disrespectful he didn't have to do all the time when I got older I told him thanks for the whipping he made me the person I am and I love my dad and mom . So girls get over it .
@@cassandraduncan-tx5xiwhat college did you go to? How long have you been married? What career do you have? We should want our kids to do more than just turn out ok, we should want them to be better than us and thrive, not just survive
@@cassandraduncan-tx5xi My brother and I also got spanked when we were growing up and I can definitely say we turned out great and both of us are very respectful law abiding citizens. Now of course it wasn’t whippings all of the time as they would still talk to us and give us warnings as well so there was always a balance. Now I don’t want people to get the wrong idea and think whippings and abuse are the same thing because they aren’t. There is nothing wrong with discipline as long as you aren’t name calling, punching, or kicking.
@@cassandraduncan-tx5xi I remember seeing my aunt beat the hell out of kids with a cord and rip the earring out of her ear. Some parents have a balance view of discipline then there's some take it a whole another level. There are some parents kick, spit, rip hair and bite to get their point across.
The middle daughter has the right idea. I love her train of thoughts. She’s breaking generational curses, and setting necessary boundaries. Her mother is intimidated by her, that’s why she wouldn’t let her speak. Icelynn you are amazing!
As a mom I don't have a problem apologizing to my children even though they are grown. A lot of people have learned to identify with their abusers and I'm not just speaking on this situation. Some people do believe beating on people will make them a better person. But when these same people get into abusive relationships or become abusive, before you know it you have people identifying with their abusers. Some children have a violent approach when it comes to things and they are quite destructive because that is how they learned to communicate. I do pray they work it out.
Literally! I don’t understand the black community, they want respect and manners, without showin what it looks like… then get mad and want to beat they child Bc the child doesn’t know
This is a case of narcissistic Mothers in the black community. They think talking at their children , hitting them, and not allowing them to express themselves is okay, and then brings up what the Bible says when it goes both ways. Don’t provoke the child and then play victim. The daughters just have had built up anger and it unleashed.
Ughh me and my mom have our ups and downs a lot, she hates how I always have this attitude towards her when in reality I just can't stand the things she does, the things that she says when she is mad, and how she doesn't want to acknowledge people's feelings. I'm in my damn 20's and still struggles to communicate thoroughly and say the right pronunciations all because of how I was treated growing up, being put into tough situations that no child needs to go through with sick adults, missed out on a lot of fun childhoods just to make sure that my little siblings and the household is well taken care off. It's a lot to unpack but I just want to leave it all behind it's exhausting and I want to leave it all behind and not to look back.
That first daughter reminded me SO MUCH of my sister - immature, refusing to take accountability, irresponsible, etc. How are you honestly upset that someone called the police on you when YOU DECIDED to 1) do something to get a warrant out for your arrest and 2) destroy thousands of dollars worth of that person’s property??? She’s annoying the hell out of me, but the fact that she acts so much like my sister is rly making it easier to accept that I’m not the only one dealing with a person like this in my family.
well if your sister is living the same life that girl is living i totally get it. That girl is angry. If we are to believe her sisters that mother is terribly abusive. Everyone reacts to abuse differently and this girl who has grown up being abused and watching her sisters be hurt too is clearly furious. We all want abuse victims to be weak and meek but the truth is a lot of abuse victims end up like that girl. Tbh that mother deserves it. Yeah she's impulsive but you can tell if she gets away from the situation she could learn to heal. If you notice she doesn't come at her sisters in that way..... just the person who hurt her and her sisters
Icelyn, sounds so healed, yess sis. Same with me, i love my sister at a distance because being near her just reminds me of the abuse from childhood. Sibling abuse is real yalll
I understand. But I get where she BBC ok’ing from if I just told u what I was doing why u hitting me up then telling me u gonna put ur car out as stolen it’s extra af and bad as a parent. Like this aged black parents and grandparents wanna control everything the child does. So she probably felt mom making up another excuse she need the car just so I can’t go nowhere
@@4dyamondx745 it matters when they obviously made it clear she can use it her mom is power hungry bitch just like mine who fake sick just to make u not have any fun idk why it’s so hard for y’all to believe being a parent doesn’t give u the right to dismiss and be an asshole to ur children and they feeling. My mom literally does the same shot we agree I can use the car if I put gas in it but when she wanna be petty she’ll pull sick shot or just some dumb shit. Sorry I can’t understand that parents can be wrong at too
@@4dyamondx745it’s about respect 🤷🏽♂️ and how you say things. As you can see the mother don’t want to own up to what she did to them. Trauma cause you to act a certain way
@@4dyamondx745 That’s her car, but the daughter said that they usually use the car whenever they need it. That day the mom went off the rails so the daughter was like “wtf?” And respect goes both ways. You can tell the mother hasn’t respected her children a day in their lives.
She was a young mother, and she did not parent properly and that's exactly why kids shouldn't be having kids. Being abusive and promiscuous and putting boyfriends before her children had a huge impact on them and they are still hurting. There needs to be a lot of therapy, healing, and accountability. That is the only way I see her relationship with her daughters improving.
@@Caramel1109so I see you’re the type that would let your kids run all over you. Last time I checked if your kids are grown ass adults they should be able to face real life consequences.
@@Caramel1109 And that's why black teens do not respect their parents, grandparents, their elders, or the church today. Because of parents like you! You coddle your teens, and allow them to disrespect you and get away with all that they do. That young girl was way too disrespectful to her mother on stage. Generation Alpha and Generation Z ARE THE WORST Generations out of all 7 of them. I wonder which generation you're from. You're probably from Generation Millennial, because we all know the people who were born within the first 4 Generations have always shown respect to their parents, grandparents, and elders. SMDH!
Yea her attitude is a no go, she should e been addressed! No need to disrespect your mom like that on tv especially when she was in the wrong.. that was her moms car
Wasn’t their mom like super shity to like-all of them in different ways. Like what are y’all expecting. Do you treat everyone close to you(family or not) like crap their whole life because you feel entitled to and still expect them to be good to you after!?!?🤦🏾♀️
@@mesmerio-0 there's a level of respect you have for your elders especially your mom. You can get your point across as the "child" without the hostility or just walk away. There should never be a point where you want to fight your parents. Trust me on this. I've been through a lot growing up and I have 10 kids all with different feelings and or attitudes and not one has ever approached me like they lost their mind.
I’m sorry but spanking a child when they are wet, and naked is most definitely abuse, and when parents try to defend their actions by saying things like *”You’re not in jail, you’re not prostituting”,* that implies that every person who isn’t in jail, or prostituting has been beaten by their parents, and that couldn’t be farther from the truth. I’m glad that the mother had matured some by the time she had her 3rd daughter, but how can you acknowledge that you “knew better” by then, but in the same breath proudly proclaim *“Sure did, and it made you blessed”* It can’t be both. You can’t claim that you’ve humbled yourself and taken accountability while still being proud and even boastful about the wrong that you’ve done. I can only remember one spanking from my dad, and it was well-deserved 😂. As a mom myself, I think that constantly beating a child is just lazy parenting. JMO.
I agree with you for the most part. Those girls turned out well in spite of the beatings, not because of the beatings. If you look into the history of most prostitutes, it's evident that there was no shortage of beatings and violence in their early lives. So, that's not what keeps girls' legs closed to paying men. I'd also say that raising a child who isn't in jail or selling their body is a very low bar. That's like a student bragging about passing their classes with a straight D minuses (the bare minimum). What functional parent brags about being the parental equivalent of a "D" minus student? I don't believe in hitting people of any age except in clear instances of self-defense. There are other innovative, nonviolent ways to correct mischievous behavior in children.
The middle daughter is 100%. She avoids accountability and over talks them to stop them from telling her the TRUTH about herself. The baby is outright disrespectful. Period. Her attitude is out of control. If all 3 of your daughters consider you problematic, you should stfu and reassess the type of mother and PERSON you are.
I've seen several commenters mentioning that the mother is a single parent and did the best she could as if that excuses her abusive behavior. Single parenting doesnt have to equal abuse, emotional neglect, and toxicity. Unless I misunderstood, is there a son as well? I wonder what his experience has been.
Whew…this hit home. Growing up my two sisters and I felt our mom put men over us. Honestly, a part of us still feel this way with her current husband. Now that we are in our 30s, we’ve learned to accept it. I’m literally the calm middle child too. Therapy has helped my sisters. Girls need a mothers love - not with material items but emotionally and with time. I hope my daughters feel unconditionally loved. Sending healing energy to that family.
Anyone else see how the kids that were beaten and mistreated are more respectful than the one that wasn't? The youngest admits she was spoiled compared to the other two yet she came out nasty af. She didn't experience the trauma her sisters did... she was just mad that her mother gave her a boundary and a consequence.
That young one needed a whipping! Being a parent is hard and finding the balance is hard. Lack of discipline is what has caused our youth to be so disrespectful! Now with whippings I believe you also have to provide positive feedback and guidance in order to balance the discipline.
"My parents beat me as a child and I am not traumatized," said the man whose ex-partner reported him for physical violence. "When I was a child they left me crying alone until I fell asleep and it was so bad I did not go out," said the man who spends long hours in social networks, affecting his sleep. "They punished me as a child and I'm fine," said the man who, every time he makes a mistake, says to himself words of contempt, as a form of self-punishment. "As a child, they put a heavy hand on me and I suffer from a trauma called 'education'," said the woman who still does not understand why all of her partners end up being aggressive. "When I became capricious as a child, my father locked me in a room alone to learn and today I appreciate it," said the woman who has suffered anxiety attacks and can not explain why she is so afraid of being locked in small spaces . "My parents told me they were going to leave me alone or give me to a stranger when I did my tantrums and I do not have traumas," said the woman who has prayed for love and has forgiven repeated infidelities so as not to feel abandoned "My parents controlled me with just the look and see how well I came out," said the woman who can not maintain eye contact with figures of 'authority' without feeling intimidated. "As a child, I got even with the iron cable and today I am a good man, even professional," said the man his neighbors have accused the police for drunk hitting objects and yelling at his wife. "My parents forced me to study a career that would make me money, and see how well off I am," said the man who dreams of Friday every day because he is desperate in his work doing something every day that is not what he always wanted. "When I was little they forced me to sit down until all the food was finished and they even force fed me, not like those permissive parents" affirmed the woman who does not understand why she could not have a healthy relationship with food and in her adolescence came to develop an eating disorder. "My mother taught me to respect her good chancletazos to the point," said the woman who smokes 5 cigarettes a day to control her anxiety. "I thank my mom and my dad for every blow and every punishment, because, if not, who knows what would happen to me," said the man who has never been able to have a healthy relationship, and whose son constantly lies to him because he has fear. And so we go through life, listening to people claiming to be good people without trauma, but paradoxically, in a society full of violence and wounded people.
And judging from the comments I hope none of these ingrates have kids, they think it's ok if a mother isn't perfect they can disrespect her. I don't like her nasty @ss
She’s a product of her mother so why should she be blamed for the bad parenting of her mother? What she needs is healing and some compassion. Y’all always want to blame the kids for their behavior while glancing over the parents and the environment that created them.
The mom may need to get another therapist..because whoever she been seeing doesn't have her take accountability..maybe he /she is a yes therapist 🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Icelynn...pertaining to her, that therapy/counseling has worked wonders for her and it shows. Keep up the good work!! That mother has a lot of work to do. If she wants her girls back as she stated, she's gonna have to have a Come to Jesus meeting and admit her faults and take ACCOUNTABILITY!!!!
I read the comments first, and y’all were correct about Icelynn!! I’m a middle child with two sisters. We all embody what these sisters embody. We all experienced a different version of our mother. But I was definitely the one who started the healing to be able to communicate and articulate to my mother where she hurt me, or where she dropped the ball. My older sister followed and my younger sister still has healing to do. They have very little to no communication whatsoever, she grew up fighting and arguing with my mom and definitely disrespected her on so many occasions. So the dynamics are very similar and I pray for healing with them.
My mother is my BIGGEST trigger . I’ve been loving my mother from a distance for the past two months and I must say I’m at peace !! I’m creating boundaries myself and she’s mad asf about it
The fact that I must go through this with my own mother makes me feel for the middle child. I'm the oldest and I will say this shit is far more common than people realize. It is scary to see how the mother is so happy for what she did.
Accountability does not mean apologizing. It means understanding the problem and working to have a better solution
Oh how they “don’t understand” that
Wow, never saw it like that. Thank you for upgrading me
People don’t understand that. People use the word accountability as an attack and try to force people to be continuously in a negative light.
And admitting your mistakes
right -- all that i want you to hear is bull crap too - i want you to DO! be the adult and guidance that a child needs - how many generations came before and the children still starting from scratch?-- BULLSHIT
This mother is just like mine. As a black woman I can only speak from my own experience and I hate to see other women who look like me have the same stories generation after generation. It’s one of the reasons why I don’t desire to be a mother myself. Wishing everyone involved healing and restoration.
Icelynn you rock! Continue to work on you and protect your peace.
the middle daughter is beautiful. shes graceful poised ladylike i bet she smart tooo.
This reminds me so much of my family dynamic back in the day. I wish as a black community, we could change a lot of the ways that we interact with our kids and break those generational issues. Its like a lot of black parents have kids and resent having them and then it shows in how some of us are raised. Its a sad cycle
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Yes . Most of them were not ready for kids.
The young one is the type who will kill her parents because she was spoiled all her life and can’t handle being told no.
Sure would. Then she brags about never being disciplined. Girl we can tell. 🥴🥴
I noticed, each daughter, when they entered the room, did not acknowledge or speak to their mother
That was so difficult to watch! While not my experience, I know SO many woman that have lived this life and still struggle as adults w/children of their own - some repeating the cycle. Praying for healing for this family!
This young woman needs to never enter her mother's house ever again!! If that was my mother, she would have kicked my ass and then call the police. How do you allow your children to run your home and curse you out. You're also grown. Why are you still living at home?!
Beating children makes them scared of u, not respect u. If ur scared of someone ofc ur not gonna talk back. There are ways to teach your child how to be respectful without traumatizing them. Some kids who get whoopings either act out, or don’t speak up for themselves.
😳This makes me extremely grateful for the relationship I had with my mom😇
PARENTS changed behavior is the best apology. I've said this to my Mom time & time again. Love you enough to fulfill you, but in a way that also protects me.
Its a telltale sign when NONE of her Daughters greeted her. She treats them like good good girlfriends & not her kids. The younger Daughter & the Mom are identical in behavior & attitude. Icelynn is the oddball, the unseen 1 & the 1 that understands that your Family may not be the one's to help you get through life. Pretty soon she'll be done w/ all of them.
My God the disrespect breaks my HEART as a mother.One day they will regret when leave this world.
Why the big one always gotta have the funny personality 😂
The nasty child’s attitude makes me think mama ain’t telling all lies
She got that from her mom. She acts just like her.
Im 18 and my mother is not as abusive as most of the mothers on this show but i still want nothing to do with her simply because of the emotional abuse she put me through. It makes it extremely difficult for me to keep moving in my life. I used to be the most ambitious girl in my school. Studying hard and starting small businesses and side hustles but eventually her words took all that ambition away. I sometimes get nightmares about my mom and i find it difficult to find ambition again
Heavenly child please please protect your spark. It will light up again. Hold it close and please it saddens me so much to hear another girl lose her spark… but it comes back. You are always you ❤❤❤
I know they will find healing. Even if it’s just among the sisters. You have to know when to let go, some people are just set in their ways 💛
You can look at the middle one and tell she’s being moved by God-anointed
Acknowledge without defending, hear without explaining .
It's funny that the one who was the LEAST disciplined, was the MOST disrespectful!
Listening to these stories, maybe my relationship with my mom wasn’t so bad. I always knew she loves me and genuinely wants the best for me.
🗯I think the daughters are being disrespectful, and talking to their mom crazy... They probably get some of that from, but they need to remember that they're responsibility for their actions and words too!... (she has a story and a past just like they do.)
She ain’t gonna change
Horrible daughters.....the disrespect from those girls is terrible the middle child articulates well but its manipulation to win
This show right here is just amazing. 😭
if you are on probation it's your responsibility to make sure that you don't come in contact with the police by your own behavior. NOT YOUR MAMA'S!
My youngest daughter gives me problems like this youngest one. I really want to know why they act this way
Bro im the youngest, and yeah my mama don’t beat me but, she ignores me, she never wants to be with me, she yells at me. Earlier last year I was going through a really really bad place I would sh, stop eating, cry, etc. she eventually found my b!ad3s and I felt so bad. I said sorry so many times (it was a day before my birthday and I had just broken up with my bf less than 2 hrs before this) she yelled at me and instead of listening to me, she said that if I wanted to keep hurting myself even if I wanted to KMS she wouldn’t care. On my birthday she didn’t even say happy birthday to me. Yet she still expects me to be the same little girl.
Wow I am so so sorry sweet heart. You will rise above this because your soul is pure ❤
I love my Mother like my heart but I do feel for these 3 Ladies because me and my Sister going through same thing with my Mother for last over 20 years since my Dad divorced her, ever since, Me and my Dad been much closer than with me and my Mother.
There is a generation that curse their father, and don't bless their mother, they are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not wash from their filthiness ( 30:11--14).😢
The baby girl is the way she is because she didn’t get those butt whippings. She’s overtly disrespectful having possibly had the closest relationship with her mom. The moms abusive discipline has traumatized them and it’s good that the middle daughter has sought counseling and therapy to heal those mother wounds.
I’m tired of ppl blaming the mom and want accountability from her… call your daddy.. none of these stories have a daddy!! The mom can only be accountable for 50%
Dis gal are really rude... talking back to their mum n calling her names shows how nasty they are ..
Mom did what she had to do. It's a lot being a parent. No one is perfect but at the same time every one needs therapy and please maintain your respect for one another
Some parents do not want their kids (no matter how old they are)
to say anything to them especially when they did wrong.
My mother date a pedophile from prison.
I got a whipping because I stood up for myself.
I was the reason for that man not marrying my mother
The mother is jealous of Iceland
Daughters must also understand the challenge of single mothers. They have past hurts and it becomes a struggle to raise the kids. Both mothers and daughters must support one another in their weaknesses.
It’s hard for a child to grasp adult themes. So it may take the daughters well into parenthood, adulthood (if ever) to grasp the adult themes that were present during their childhood. Sometimes us parents just have to own it, apologize and be better without our children understanding why we parented the way we did. Just food for thought.
@@LadyBDavis my child won't accept my apology, for something that I don't even know that I did. Told me don't apologize to her no more. It's like she want me to beat myself up or feel the way she want me to feel Abt issues she can't or won't communicate to me. So, I've made peace with myself, and love her from afar. I will be here ready and willing when she ready, without disrespect. Fyi, it's not just me, the mommy, she has an issue with her father, her siblings, aunts, grandparents and even coworkers.
@@chandralafayewalker-smith6104 I hope you all find peace and find a way to come together. I pray that your family is healed.
This was a goooood one
And why are the daughters concerned about the mom being promiscuous? That’s a grown woman. I have issues with my mom but I can care less about who my mom dated as long as they don’t disrespect me. I’ve seen plenty of boyfriends around my mom before she got married and remarried.
I was trying to understand that point too. Like unless they touched you , what does your momma having multiple men got to do with you?
The middle child ❤ she is the one who will break the generational curse. Very articulate, and soft in how she express herself, making the changes to not be like her mother, and actually healing from that trauma. Kudos to her !
She is NOT articulate. She is also NOT soft spoken. She is very contentious
@@AkireMaru you must be like the mother ...hmmmmm
I 100% agree with you, amazing woman doing the best for herself ❤
She sees a difference in her that's why she bumps heads with her the most.
She is gorgeous
The middle child articulates and expresses herself so well and I believe the middle child is able to deliver her truth in a way that “it holds up a mirror “ and her mother keeps interrupting her because she doesn’t like the way her truth feels and what it forces her to see within herself.
DANM, you worded and expressed exactly what I was thinking but I didn’t know how to put it into words 😅😂
right on the money
You said this perfectly!
The only reason why Icelynn was getting interrupted EVERY SINGLE TIME SHE TALKED, was because her mother knew that the way she delivers herself is FAR more better than the mother herself. So she decided to cut Icelynn off so the audience and Karamo won’t have to hear what she says, knowing what she is going to say mostly is true.
Yuppp!! Thats how my mom was with me.
A strategy to make chaos and deflect from the crisis at hand 🖐️
The sad part is some mothers like her notice that characteristic and try to take their child's voice away starting at a very early age to feel more alpha especially if their parenting skills are being questioned by their own kid they see it as a challenge to defend their title and territory over them as a mother.
That's true. That's what manipulative people do
Narcissists always try to shut off the truth tellers
Icelynn is breaking the generational curse, so proud of all the young ladies
But mom's sex life is none of her business, besides that how she got here.
How is she breaking the generation curse, she has children out of wedlock, probably more than one dad.
@@sharonfranks4031 So you don't think as a child you'll be affected by having to see every sexual partner your mom has and then a different one on top of that?
@@bigdawg9826 as a child who controls mama? As a child what do you know about mama's issues really? but she still raised you to be strong, voice your opinions and puck you up if you don't have the mind to get the hell on out mama's house and leave mama's crazy azz alone so her sanity can come back you get what you get. But she loves ❤️ 😍 you and got your back
@@sharonfranks4031 yes it is when you growing up with men coming and out the house, especially with daughters in the house
Icelynn is soooo beautiful, inside & out! the way she carries herself & creates boundaries to protect her peace is impressive. 😍🥺
Icelynn will be the one to be done with the Mom.
Mothers never remember what they do🙄
THATS GASLIGHTING AND MANIPULATIONS -THIS MOTHER IS A CLASSIC NARC! THEY NEED TO ALL GET DISTANCE FROM HER..
Yah my mom never remembered as I went through my career in dancing since 6 and still present day dancing.. calling me fat, disgusting, a pig, because I exercised so much and burned so many calories and would get hungrier then normal 🤣. Compare me to other girls and tell me I needed to look like them or be like them. Call me stupid, an idiot. Oh boy narcissist mothers.
At all 😂
Or fathers
Or fathers 😒
The mother was abusive.Let's call a spade a spade. Nothing calls for beating your child in the shower...nothing. That was the mother unleashing her rage on them
Umm y’all ain’t grow up in a real black house hold😂 them whoopings come wit discipline and an understanding also with respect
@@jaygotgame8632 facts
@@jaygotgame8632 being black has nothing to do with it, abuse is abuse, no "respect" or "love" behind it
No Abuse is Abuse.
@@jaygotgame8632 this is the narrative that must stop in black households. We took the whip from massa and unleashed it in the home, on children, and try to call assult “love”. Misquote Bible verses to justify what would be a charge in the real world. And do that to children. It's abuse. Call a thing a thing. Beat the community into submission and no we have now leadership.
Can’t stand that there’s almost a glorification of abusive mothers in the Black community. It’s seen as “strict taking no disrespect” etc. This mother looked proud so many times recalling what she did it was embarrassing to watch. And lady, no you’re not the reason Icelynn is mature and articulate - SHE did the work.
Who do you see glorifying this? Y'all say anything.
There’s definitely a general consensus among many Black people about this. On here the audience will even clap at times hearing about abuse but they consider it “discipline”. How do you not know this when it’s very common?
@JollyMolly Ramram What's sad is that many in that same audience would cringe if the children weren't black. I've noticed how the media spins the narrative dependent up on the race of the family. I know that doesn't apply here, but we as a community need to wise up.
Ironically the so called traumatized whoooings. The most disrespectful child did not get. Y’all killing me with whooopings are traumatizing
@Nurse_ Shelley - You’re right about that.
It’s like she doesn’t like the most healed and articulate daughter.
💜💜💜
That daughter isn't healed. If she were that healed, she wouldn't have humiliated her mother on national TV by calling her promiscuous and telling the world she had 40 boyfriends! True love covers.
It’s because she knows she’s in a path to become a better women then she ever was she jealous of her own child trust me ik!
@@SuperShepard1 she’s healed enough she could’ve said much worse !
@@SuperShepard1 By the words of someone who clearly hasn't face trauma and what its like to recover from abuse and have been given everything in life with a gold medal.
The daughter with the braids is very beautiful 😍 love her face structure
The middle daughter really is almost model like
What does her looks have to do with ANY of this? You people focus on the wrong things, the point was sorely missed here.
@@4dyamondx745 OK
@@4dyamondx745 what you gotta do with this conversation? girl shut up we can say somebody pretty fool..
@@4dyamondx745 exactly! Beauty did not stop her abuser!
It’s always us middle kids that gets disrespected the worst by our parents.
Facts.
FACTS
Very true 😢
facts
Nahhh my middle sibling was the Golden child
That Icelynn... she stands out from ALL of them. She is the curse breaker. If you see this.... keep moving in the direction the Most High leads. ( It's not been in vain. ) Your family needs you to.
We all stand out and none of us is like are mother thank you but you don’t know no us personally. We are all well off on life. Thax
I was able to see this! God will forever get the Glory out of all of my trials and tribulations!! I appreciate this more then you know!
@@amabarrbrown3585 Sending Hug's ✨🙏🏿
Icelynn got issues. The mom was a child when she had them. She is not perfect. And has work to do.
TOO, ICELYNN pretty much did the same thing as her mom, children out of wedlock, more than one daddy.
I don’t know how parents expect their kids to be the most respectful people when they aren’t respectful themselves. The mother is irking me she had to talk over every single one of them, your daughters are just as disrespectful as you ma’am
I always tell my mom that I will respect my little kids because how will they learn respect if not.
The mother may try to talk over Icelynn because she is very intelligent and self aware. She’s jealous and knows Iceland will call her out on her actions so she has to over talk her.
Jealous???
@@SoleahWright 🤷🏿♀️
I agree. The fact that she can articulately identify the mom’s issues, and then request accountability probably makes the mom feel judged, and deficient. Maybe in her daughter, she sees the emotional intelligence that she wishes she could have had at her age, but rather than celebrating and being proud of her daughter, she pushes back against anything that she says. I applaud the daughter for recognizing her triggers, and for choosing to protect her peace, rather than engaging her mom.
And, she did it with all respect. As she said I have to love my mom from a distance. Iceland’s boundaries are set! I love a healthy minded person.
JEALOUSY? Of what?
The mom is acting like she's their sister, calling them names and fighting with them. She needs to be the bigger person as the parent, and show them geuine love and respect.
The way I see it is that you can't give what you don't have !
@@laawaer7265 So if she knew she couldn't give them proper love and respect, then why keep having more children?
@@laawaer7265 yeah I feel like parents like that deserve to be left to fend for themselves and to never waste time on them. They will never change. Hurt people hurt people, but don’t nobody care at this point.
Especially the youngest one
@@jyadidtnova1051 cus they don't care , they don't see they're in the wrong with how they behave . it could be the mom is a product of her environment
The middle daughter mentioning boundaries is actually very helpful to me. Thanks for sharing that. Boundaries are really so important. Some family dynamics view boundaries as a disrespect or being inconsiderate and not helpful even though you may be drained or it's taking everything out of you.
The daughter in the middle is so gorgeous 😊
Intelligent and well-spoken too!
And intelligent too😊
Yes indeed she is. 😍
Icelynn proved herself. My God what a strong and independent woman. Sticking up for herself but not degrading others like her mother does. BRAVO! 👏🏽 🎉
I noticed that all of her children are hostile towards her. Even Icelynn, not disrespectful but hostile. Hostile tones, her voice is shaky. But they all grew up in an environment where they constantly have to defend themselves against their OWN mother. Whether it been emotionally or physically. This is extremely hurtful; I experienced something similar and I'm sure most black children with either one if not both parents are toxic, experience these traumas.
11:50 HI, daughter of a narcissistic mother here:) BIG HINT: notice how the brother isn’t in the room, and it’s ONLY the daughters that have a bad relationship with the mother. mothers cherish the bond with their sons more than with their daughters.. that’s a BIG trait of narcissism…
What the middle child said hit me like a ton of bricks. I'm also very passive and permissive with my kids because of the way I was raised. I don't want them to feel the way I did but that too is not always good. There has to be a balance.
When I was young my dad whip us with 3switches and with our clothes off because that's what we needed but it's 5 of us 3 girls and 2 boys we never went to jail and was not disrespectful he didn't have to do all the time when I got older I told him thanks for the whipping he made me the person I am and I love my dad and mom . So girls get over it .
@@cassandraduncan-tx5xiwhat college did you go to? How long have you been married? What career do you have? We should want our kids to do more than just turn out ok, we should want them to be better than us and thrive, not just survive
@@cassandraduncan-tx5xi My brother and I also got spanked when we were growing up and I can definitely say we turned out great and both of us are very respectful law abiding citizens. Now of course it wasn’t whippings all of the time as they would still talk to us and give us warnings as well so there was always a balance. Now I don’t want people to get the wrong idea and think whippings and abuse are the same thing because they aren’t. There is nothing wrong with discipline as long as you aren’t name calling, punching, or kicking.
@@cassandraduncan-tx5xi I remember seeing my aunt beat the hell out of kids with a cord and rip the earring out of her ear.
Some parents have a balance view of discipline then there's some take it a whole another level. There are some parents kick, spit, rip hair and bite to get their point across.
@@cassandraduncan-tx5xiYou're a victim and gaslighting yourself.
Iceland the middle child, God bless you sug!! We see you and your counseling is working keep doing it! Up top +they need you!
The middle daughter has the right idea. I love her train of thoughts. She’s breaking generational curses, and setting necessary boundaries. Her mother is intimidated by her, that’s why she wouldn’t let her speak. Icelynn you are amazing!
As a mom I don't have a problem apologizing to my children even though they are grown. A lot of people have learned to identify with their abusers and I'm not just speaking on this situation.
Some people do believe beating on people will make them a better person. But when these same people get into abusive relationships or become abusive, before you know it you have people identifying with their abusers.
Some children have a violent approach when it comes to things and they are quite destructive because that is how they learned to communicate. I do pray they work it out.
Literally! I don’t understand the black community, they want respect and manners, without showin what it looks like… then get mad and want to beat they child Bc the child doesn’t know
Your right
@@takeishawhite4964 ♥ 🙏
Literally ‼️
Right on point. And then they be surprised when the child fights back.
Icelynn shines babyyy! I wish her the best in life. The more boundaries the better for her.
Iceland is not lying on her mother.
This is a case of narcissistic Mothers in the black community. They think talking at their children , hitting them, and not allowing them to express themselves is okay, and then brings up what the Bible says when it goes both ways. Don’t provoke the child and then play victim. The daughters just have had built up anger and it unleashed.
Ughh me and my mom have our ups and downs a lot, she hates how I always have this attitude towards her when in reality I just can't stand the things she does, the things that she says when she is mad, and how she doesn't want to acknowledge people's feelings. I'm in my damn 20's and still struggles to communicate thoroughly and say the right pronunciations all because of how I was treated growing up, being put into tough situations that no child needs to go through with sick adults, missed out on a lot of fun childhoods just to make sure that my little siblings and the household is well taken care off. It's a lot to unpack but I just want to leave it all behind it's exhausting and I want to leave it all behind and not to look back.
That first daughter reminded me SO MUCH of my sister - immature, refusing to take accountability, irresponsible, etc. How are you honestly upset that someone called the police on you when YOU DECIDED to 1) do something to get a warrant out for your arrest and 2) destroy thousands of dollars worth of that person’s property??? She’s annoying the hell out of me, but the fact that she acts so much like my sister is rly making it easier to accept that I’m not the only one dealing with a person like this in my family.
You mean the youngest daughter?!
@@MarieeeeeE22no she meant the first daughter to come out on stage.
@@mekhiachandler1927 oh ok, thank you!!!
The first daughter that came out is the youngest one
well if your sister is living the same life that girl is living i totally get it. That girl is angry. If we are to believe her sisters that mother is terribly abusive. Everyone reacts to abuse differently and this girl who has grown up being abused and watching her sisters be hurt too is clearly furious. We all want abuse victims to be weak and meek but the truth is a lot of abuse victims end up like that girl. Tbh that mother deserves it. Yeah she's impulsive but you can tell if she gets away from the situation she could learn to heal. If you notice she doesn't come at her sisters in that way..... just the person who hurt her and her sisters
These parents got to accept accountability and how they actually impact their kids. Own up you contributing to their mental health.
They’d rather die first than do that.
@@antonivi8968 facts
Icelyn, sounds so healed, yess sis. Same with me, i love my sister at a distance because being near her just reminds me of the abuse from childhood. Sibling abuse is real yalll
It really is.
And that’s why y’all end up in nursing homes 😅😂
Riiight, im seeing a lot people in this comment section who are going to end up in there and wonder why they kids don’t visit them 💀
facts cause my mama damn sho GOING THAT WAY
@@essiekaayy8755😆😆😆😆
Factz ..cuz I DEFINITELY will NOT be taking care of my elderly mother.
Yup !
The young girl needs to take accountability. You’re borrowing your mother’s car so bring it back no matter the reason
I understand. But I get where she BBC ok’ing from if I just told u what I was doing why u hitting me up then telling me u gonna put ur car out as stolen it’s extra af and bad as a parent. Like this aged black parents and grandparents wanna control everything the child does. So she probably felt mom making up another excuse she need the car just so I can’t go nowhere
@@Caramel1109 it does not matter what the mom reasons were, IT WAS THE MOM CAR, that is what's wrong with you people?
@@4dyamondx745 it matters when they obviously made it clear she can use it her mom is power hungry bitch just like mine who fake sick just to make u not have any fun idk why it’s so hard for y’all to believe being a parent doesn’t give u the right to dismiss and be an asshole to ur children and they feeling. My mom literally does the same shot we agree I can use the car if I put gas in it but when she wanna be petty she’ll pull sick shot or just some dumb shit. Sorry I can’t understand that parents can be wrong at too
@@4dyamondx745it’s about respect 🤷🏽♂️ and how you say things. As you can see the mother don’t want to own up to what she did to them. Trauma cause you to act a certain way
@@4dyamondx745 That’s her car, but the daughter said that they usually use the car whenever they need it. That day the mom went off the rails so the daughter was like “wtf?” And respect goes both ways. You can tell the mother hasn’t respected her children a day in their lives.
She was a young mother, and she did not parent properly and that's exactly why kids shouldn't be having kids. Being abusive and promiscuous and putting boyfriends before her children had a huge impact on them and they are still hurting. There needs to be a lot of therapy, healing, and accountability. That is the only way I see her relationship with her daughters improving.
Mother over talks because the truth hurts
If you don’t want to go to jail, don’t commit a crime while on probation. 🤷🏽♀️
As a parent idc wat u DID but I’m not gonna put my BLACK CHILD in a life or death situation by calling cops on them. Plain and simple
@@Caramel1109 and she isn’t you. 🤷🏽♀️
@@Caramel1109so I see you’re the type that would let your kids run all over you. Last time I checked if your kids are grown ass adults they should be able to face real life consequences.
@@Caramel1109 FACTS!
@@Caramel1109 And that's why black teens do not respect their parents, grandparents, their elders, or the church today. Because of parents like you! You coddle your teens, and allow them to disrespect you and get away with all that they do. That young girl was way too disrespectful to her mother on stage. Generation Alpha and Generation Z ARE THE WORST Generations out of all 7 of them. I wonder which generation you're from. You're probably from Generation Millennial, because we all know the people who were born within the first 4 Generations have always shown respect to their parents, grandparents, and elders. SMDH!
The middle child always gets the short end of the stick (even with great parents), but they always seem to come out best
So true I’m a middle child and I can attest to that.
I agree
As a middle child myself, I totally get this
That little one got a foul a** mouth. Too disrespectful for me towards her mom.
fr. I'm sorry but I did not like her energy at all, or towards her mom.
Yea her attitude is a no go, she should e been addressed! No need to disrespect your mom like that on tv especially when she was in the wrong.. that was her moms car
But it is what it is , the youngest is usually the craziest and most angry
Wasn’t their mom like super shity to like-all of them in different ways. Like what are y’all expecting. Do you treat everyone close to you(family or not) like crap their whole life because you feel entitled to and still expect them to be good to you after!?!?🤦🏾♀️
@@mesmerio-0 there's a level of respect you have for your elders especially your mom. You can get your point across as the "child" without the hostility or just walk away. There should never be a point where you want to fight your parents. Trust me on this. I've been through a lot growing up and I have 10 kids all with different feelings and or attitudes and not one has ever approached me like they lost their mind.
It really irritates me when these parents act like they can't understand why their kids hate them. Delusional af
I love when the mothers apologize from the heart, she's a broken person too
Karamo is a good listener and gives good feedback but he look like he going through something too. It’s in his eyes..
@Miss J I see it too
Yup. Well he's gay, he's going through a lot as a beautiful gay black man
Yup. Well he's gay, he's going through a lot as a beautiful gay black man
I’m sorry but spanking a child when they are wet, and naked is most definitely abuse, and when parents try to defend their actions by saying things like *”You’re not in jail, you’re not prostituting”,* that implies that every person who isn’t in jail, or prostituting has been beaten by their parents, and that couldn’t be farther from the truth. I’m glad that the mother had matured some by the time she had her 3rd daughter, but how can you acknowledge that you “knew better” by then, but in the same breath proudly proclaim *“Sure did, and it made you blessed”* It can’t be both. You can’t claim that you’ve humbled yourself and taken accountability while still being proud and even boastful about the wrong that you’ve done. I can only remember one spanking from my dad, and it was well-deserved 😂. As a mom myself, I think that constantly beating a child is just lazy parenting. JMO.
Oop never knew that. Thought that was normal😗
Spanking a child in general is abuse
I agree with you for the most part. Those girls turned out well in spite of the beatings, not because of the beatings. If you look into the history of most prostitutes, it's evident that there was no shortage of beatings and violence in their early lives. So, that's not what keeps girls' legs closed to paying men. I'd also say that raising a child who isn't in jail or selling their body is a very low bar. That's like a student bragging about passing their classes with a straight D minuses (the bare minimum). What functional parent brags about being the parental equivalent of a "D" minus student? I don't believe in hitting people of any age except in clear instances of self-defense. There are other innovative, nonviolent ways to correct mischievous behavior in children.
@@tincredible right - thats all she wanted for their future was to make sure they weren't prostitutes ? wtf - this shit is sick
That middle child is us breaking down barriers and generational trauma in our families
The middle daughter is 100%. She avoids accountability and over talks them to stop them from telling her the TRUTH about herself.
The baby is outright disrespectful. Period. Her attitude is out of control.
If all 3 of your daughters consider you problematic, you should stfu and reassess the type of mother and PERSON you are.
!!
The mother is gaslighting her daughters to death glad her daughters have each others back
I've seen several commenters mentioning that the mother is a single parent and did the best she could as if that excuses her abusive behavior. Single parenting doesnt have to equal abuse, emotional neglect, and toxicity. Unless I misunderstood, is there a son as well? I wonder what his experience has been.
Yes💜💜💜
I really hope they heal and come together . Wish it was longer tho.
The second sister said her past but didn’t keep saying it she actually did stuff to help her
The mother is just as disrespectful
Whew…this hit home. Growing up my two sisters and I felt our mom put men over us. Honestly, a part of us still feel this way with her current husband. Now that we are in our 30s, we’ve learned to accept it. I’m literally the calm middle child too. Therapy has helped my sisters. Girls need a mothers love - not with material items but emotionally and with time. I hope my daughters feel unconditionally loved. Sending healing energy to that family.
The daughter in the blue,girl….. smh.
She need to be on somebody's runway modeling
@@BOSSLADY-cu8vs nal she needs her a s s beat for disrespecting her mom like that!
@@BOSSLADY-cu8vs the youngest? Absolutely not lol Icelynn though,I agree!
Right!
Anyone else see how the kids that were beaten and mistreated are more respectful than the one that wasn't? The youngest admits she was spoiled compared to the other two yet she came out nasty af. She didn't experience the trauma her sisters did... she was just mad that her mother gave her a boundary and a consequence.
Meeeeeeeeeeeeee but whoopings is sooooooo traumatizing and abusive. This gentle parenting style getting on my nerves.
That young one needed a whipping! Being a parent is hard and finding the balance is hard. Lack of discipline is what has caused our youth to be so disrespectful! Now with whippings I believe you also have to provide positive feedback and guidance in order to balance the discipline.
@@msamariabmaking massa proud. getting so angry you have to put your hands on someone is beyond me.
@@sleepy.thehumanYou don't have to be angry to administer corporal punishment.
"My parents beat me as a child and I am not traumatized," said the man whose ex-partner reported him for physical violence.
"When I was a child they left me crying alone until I fell asleep and it was so bad I did not go out," said the man who spends long hours in social networks, affecting his sleep.
"They punished me as a child and I'm fine," said the man who, every time he makes a mistake, says to himself words of contempt, as a form of self-punishment.
"As a child, they put a heavy hand on me and I suffer from a trauma called 'education'," said the woman who still does not understand why all of her partners end up being aggressive.
"When I became capricious as a child, my father locked me in a room alone to learn and today I appreciate it," said the woman who has suffered anxiety attacks and can not explain why she is so afraid of being locked in small spaces .
"My parents told me they were going to leave me alone or give me to a stranger when I did my tantrums and I do not have traumas," said the woman who has prayed for love and has forgiven repeated infidelities so as not to feel abandoned
"My parents controlled me with just the look and see how well I came out," said the woman who can not maintain eye contact with figures of 'authority' without feeling intimidated.
"As a child, I got even with the iron cable and today I am a good man, even professional," said the man his neighbors have accused the police for drunk hitting objects and yelling at his wife.
"My parents forced me to study a career that would make me money, and see how well off I am," said the man who dreams of Friday every day because he is desperate in his work doing something every day that is not what he always wanted.
"When I was little they forced me to sit down until all the food was finished and they even force fed me, not like those permissive parents" affirmed the woman who does not understand why she could not have a healthy relationship with food and in her adolescence came to develop an eating disorder.
"My mother taught me to respect her good chancletazos to the point," said the woman who smokes 5 cigarettes a day to control her anxiety.
"I thank my mom and my dad for every blow and every punishment, because, if not, who knows what would happen to me," said the man who has never been able to have a healthy relationship, and whose son constantly lies to him because he has fear.
And so we go through life, listening to people claiming to be good people without trauma, but paradoxically, in a society full of violence and wounded people.
The youngest one need a foot in her *** - mad disrespectful. The way the mother disciplined the older two is how she should have done her.
And judging from the comments I hope none of these ingrates have kids, they think it's ok if a mother isn't perfect they can disrespect her. I don't like her nasty @ss
I said the same thing
Yeah her mom should've fcuked her up when she was kicking her down😂😂....
It’s like the youngest is so disrespectful to the point the mother is scared of her. Cus I would’ve beennnnnn put my foot up her a s s
She’s a product of her mother so why should she be blamed for the bad parenting of her mother? What she needs is healing and some compassion. Y’all always want to blame the kids for their behavior while glancing over the parents and the environment that created them.
The mom may need to get another therapist..because whoever she been seeing doesn't have her take accountability..maybe he /she is a yes therapist 🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
WHOMEVER
My mom is the same. The whooping made you who you are… oh that’s the signature non accountability mothers
Factz
Icelynn...pertaining to her, that therapy/counseling has worked wonders for her and it shows. Keep up the good work!! That mother has a lot of work to do. If she wants her girls back as she stated, she's gonna have to have a Come to Jesus meeting and admit her faults and take ACCOUNTABILITY!!!!
I read the comments first, and y’all were correct about Icelynn!! I’m a middle child with two sisters. We all embody what these sisters embody. We all experienced a different version of our mother. But I was definitely the one who started the healing to be able to communicate and articulate to my mother where she hurt me, or where she dropped the ball. My older sister followed and my younger sister still has healing to do. They have very little to no communication whatsoever, she grew up fighting and arguing with my mom and definitely disrespected her on so many occasions. So the dynamics are very similar and I pray for healing with them.
Icelynn have the most beautiful spirit ❤ I pray that you guys can find happiness together if not it’s ok to love people from a distance.
That little daughter is so rude! Icelynn is beautiful inside out.
Very rude
She should be, her mom was terrible TO ALL OF THEM!!!
She’s just like her mom, actually.
My mother is my BIGGEST trigger . I’ve been loving my mother from a distance for the past two months and I must say I’m at peace !! I’m creating boundaries myself and she’s mad asf about it
The fact that I must go through this with my own mother makes me feel for the middle child. I'm the oldest and I will say this shit is far more common than people realize. It is scary to see how the mother is so happy for what she did.
She reminds me of my mother. Swear the kids hate them BUT don't understand why. Grab a mirror smh
Karamo never address the children when they are being disrespectful to their parents on his show.