Yup! She HELL! And if she didn't say nothing else when she said, " ION CARE ABOUT NONE OF THESE CAMERAS!!" she showed us that she's abusive because we all know what that statement meant.
I believe the daughter, too. You can't make that up. Cps is not going to take your children for nothing, and I believe her when she said her mom burned her with the iron, especially if she described what led to her burning her with iron
They don’t want to face the pain and ugliness of what they did to their children and their own trauma from their own childhood. I experienced this with my own mother, may she RIP.
No, because the way her "mom" was smiling as she explained how she treated her and her siblings when they were children...that's pure evil right there.
@@shyannh Sometimes it's not because they raised a bratty or disrespectful child. Sometimes they hate their kids because they get older and start calling out the parent's bad behavior and they realise they can't manipulate them anymore.
@@fatonyalmitchell3281 i think y’all seem to forget the bible says do not provoke your children. Y’all use honor your parents so y’all can do what y’all want but seem to forget there is another part. People like you are why this generation is so messed up.
Oh believe me my other to to a mother did the same. It’s bad. At times they have kids so young repeating what their moms did and being with shitty men etc… they are unhappy with their life and they project that unto you. It’s sad because all I ever wanted to do was feel a parents love.
It's more than sad it's pathetic. We've been doing this for too long. I have no patience for trash like that at this point. If you are an adult and you're making problems for other people because of YOUR problems, you have got to be the pathetic type of person and you will get no grace.
My mother is the EXACT SAME WAY. Blatant lying, abuse, the manipulation, complete disregard for others feelings, the HUMILIATION. I really feel it for this girl, may God bless her.
She is envious of her daughter’s beauty, innocence, fresh chance at life to succeed and youth. That’s what it comes down to. It’s plastered all over her gross behavior.
Yes, she is so envious. You know how people say that moms who put their daughters in beauty pageants are the worst moms? I used to believe that as well. But, then I see moms like the one in this video and she is making Patsy Ramsey's look like mother of the year.
Lol y'all be reaching, the mom is actually a nice lookin woman nothing to be envious about she's just a evil narcissist has nothing to do with jealousy smh
The fact that CPS has been in their life since this baby was two years old is so sad. The mom is wrong for even putting her daughter through this on tv for everyone to see. Her ulterior motive was to expose the daughter but, she really exposed herself.
For real, though but I do believe the mother told the lies. I'm not saying the daughter is evil, but I'm so not saying her mom is a narc. Honestly I do think mostly the daughter was telling the truth.
At 1:53 you see Karamo actually start to tear up listening as she list off all the things her mother had done. Like this is a LEVEL of toxicity I've never even seen. It makes me so thankful for my mom.
People seem to do that when they are embarrassed but also in denial, because they been justifying their actions and reliving their last accomplishment for so long they tend to forget all the times they weren’t being the good person they justified themselves of being especially realizing they hurting more than the hurt they cause . Parents tend to invalidate their child’s feelings and experience because they feel they had worse . Ofc I don’t agree with that but it helps you understand how someone can seem so heartless. Anywhoo I do agree with you because hurt people shouldn’t hurt people they should heal and stop making excuses
A conversation is one talk and the other shut up. This way we can hear, both sides of the story. He should have let the daughter tell her side alone and then the mother alone and then both together. Just saying.
That mother did everything her daughter said she did. I believe the daughter 100%. The mother hasn’t been and isn’t able to own her involvement in the destruction of her children’s lives.
I actually really respect this guy. Even though the mom was at the wrong in this situation, I love how he was acting so calm, trying to understand both of their point of views and not taking sides. Got a lot of respect for this man.
this is THE WORSTTT episode i’ve seen yet. her mother is full of it. how you gone call a show to get closer to your child but not ready to sit, listen, & take the accountability. she’s right. her mother will never change & i think it’s great she wants to break a generational curse but she might just have to let go of that relationship with her mother and move on. the way her mother started blaming karamo & his show when she is the PROBLEM. i always hope that everybody who comes on his show leaves with the tools he gives & working on a better relationship.
People like her expect things to fall onto their lap without putting in the work. They think that after it's been some years and THEY got over it that everyone else should be over it too. Everything happens on their terms only
I cried watching this , because baby girl is in sm pain. Crying out for help. I’m praying for her peace and prosperity. I hope she is able to heal with or without her mom
For this young lady to remember all these things like it happened yesterday, and in front of people she don’t know, tells me she is not lying why would she make any of this up? You can hear it in this baby voice I just want to hug her and treat her like my little sister! ❤❤ I pray she finds peace and understanding and most of all healing❤❤❤❤
this! from what the mom said about her own mother and the fact that grandma called cps on her immediately says she likes to play games just like thw mom. I jist wish the best for that hurt young lady and her siblings
actually she called her a bitch back the daughter said it first from the video I'm looking at it seems like everyone forgets that these teenagers and pre adults can be stressful and disrespectful as hell too some are more of a burden than a blessing, all I can say is THANK GOD I CHOSE NOT TO HAVE KIDS! she not a child she 21
“I’m not tryna get rowdy and make a scene.” Proceeds to be rowdy and make a scene. Disgusting. All kids deserve parents but this woman don’t deserve nothing but isolation and dust from her children.
That lady thought she was going to come out and punk her. When you want to talk to a now grown woman you need to address her as such. She was disrespectful off rip and deserves no relationship with that beautiful young woman.
To see the mum backstage laughing when the daughter was telling her traumatic upbringing brought me to tears. I pray the daughter finds all the happiness in the world. 🙏
I as a survivor of child abuse myself remembers that I am not the only one who suffered this. My heart goes out to this woman. That failure of a parent disgusts me completely.
A narcissist can't stand their FAKE image being thrown in the mud and will do ANYTHING to make themselves look good...... I HOPE she just gets away from her mother, she's too far gone. The mother likely had some bad trauma herself and that's where her daughter can start to forgive her to heal but she's gone.
My mother was just like this, and unfortunately, she didn't acknowledge anything until she was on her deathbed and was terrified of dying. It's like a punch in the gut.
That lady was ALL types of wrong.. “I never just left my kids or gotten them taken “ but in the same breath say you had multiple CPS cases.. which one is it ma’am?? She was taken at 2 and at 7 but everything she saying is a lie? Come on! What was the point of bringing her here?
The point was to expose her daughter for no reason. Wasted our time trying to play the victim. I stand with Torryona. This lady is the devil!!! The worst!
She called the show herself and came to gaslight everyone but Karamo wasn’t having it. Bravo Karamo! Prayers to her and her children, they all need help.
This woman is so beautiful!!! I’m no contact with my parents. Sometimes leaving the toxicity behind when people aren’t willing to change is what breaks the generational curse. Choose peace always 💜
This why I love my Mom…ima give her a hug next time I see her. Sending LOVE to anyone struggling in the relationship with their Mother. Just know God lives you!!!! ❤❤❤❤
Well its hard for me to love mine but i do love her. But me and my mother haven't had Mother & Son relationship after divorce and my and my father been have closer relationship. Please pray for me for better relationship with my mother
I'm over her crying because I can relate to her story and I'm 25. Torianna, I'm sorry you had to go through this, and you are NOT alone. It took me 8 years of healing and praying to God. I love my mom from a distant. Now I have two beautiful girls and I promised myself that, I would NEVER let anybody hurt them. I will NOT repeat the cycle. Torianna, you got this, and you are a beautiful black queen.
I can relate to this . I’m 27 years old and my grandparents raised me. Mom gave me away around 3 years old. Now she wanna take credit as if she’s been there and demand me to visit her until I put my foot down. Told me I was disrespectful for telling her my truths about her not being there for me through all the years growing up. Guilt trip me for not seeing her when she wants to ON her time. LADY PLEASE !! I love my mother, but until she takes accountability and heal; her and I Can love from a distance for my Sanity . God Bless
If you were super mom and treated your children with love and respect they wouldn’t be on the show airing it all out. I believe everything she said about the mama and what they went through.
I feel sorry for her. Her Mom is always going to be a POS who’s never going to take accountability for the abuse and trauma she caused her kids. She thinks it’s funny. 🤦♀️
the mother reminds me of my own.. when the daughter started crying after the fight in the end i felt tears, i understood exactly how she felt at that moment.. it reminded me of myself when my mother would mentally/verbally abuse me the same way… daughters of narcissistic moms we really are strong
The daughter is like a wild fire while burning her screams on the inside, even brighter! You’re beautiful with so much sympathy, anger, power, love, justice, honesty, and dignity. It’s okay to let the flames out, even it’s uncontrollable. The flames of hatred shall be dissipated so the new flames will be born. The new flames or the flames of love will be sealed in your heart as your warmth. Like a phoenix. You are strong and willing. You proved your mother wrong and you’ll have a wonderful motherhood/sisterhood in your future. 🔥❤️🩹 May God bless you. 🙏
Bless your heart Karamo. This beautiful young lady looks like she's had quite the journey in her young life. She needed that hug, that validation, that assurance that this is not her fault. Thank you for giving that to her. I am sitting on my couch crying because of her. I just don't understand why women choose to have children that they don't want and put them through this hell. Thank you for what you do. Truly!!
Heavenly Father thou canst do all things, thou art God alone, intervene here in Christ Jesus name, remove the drug influence from the young lady's life, {she mentioned she does that to stay calm} Bring healing to both of them🫂 *_Amen_.*
I can see why she had all them CPS cases, she got on TV and was literally threatening her daughter right there. "Yeah she better do this, she better do that" " I will go to jail today"... Like ma'am...You're proving her point of the neglect and abuse.
My heart brakes for the daughter. Deep down she is a child still looking for her mothers love. And this was just so bad. I hope Karamo helps her with some counseling sessions. She may have to confine her life without this woman in it.
Torryona is not lying about her mother burning her. She gave a exact detailed recalection step by steg of what exactly occurred because when her mother burned her purposely Torryona was shocked instantly that her mother was capable of that level of harm upon her. She was hurt physically and in disbelief creating a life long stain forever engraved in her memory. The mother thinks that if she yells loud enough and flings her arm about wildly while bouncing simultaneously that she will come across as the one telling the truth. But in actuality, I believe every word and description that Torryona is speaking. Children naturally want the love, care and support from their mommy. Her mother takes no responsibility and deflects. I want Torryona to graduate school and put in to be a flight attendant. She's gorgeous and hasn't even fully blossomed yet. Her mother is not going to bring anything to her life other than more misery in the future. I can clearly see that woman becoming jealous and vindictive of Torryona because she so easily spewed the words " I hate my daughter" knowing very well that nobody's ever promised tomorrow. Torryona is so young still and she can't understand or see that blood is not thicker than water when you own mother bring you on national TV for millions to see her level of hate of her daughter. She will never admit it but I'm a extreme empathetic person, I know women like her and I can see. She's always hated her daughter and that's why she burned her when she was little. Most likely the reason is because when she was born the man who fathered her left her and moved on once he realized the type of women he impregnated. The effect triggered a growing resentment of mother to daughter. Torryona baby, as soon as you get a chance baby RUN. Don't worry about you siblings, when they get old enough they'll find you through social media and you guys will rebuild your bond. That woman did give birth to you, but she is not your mother.
I caught that shi too. And it’s clear she’s jealous of her daughter and her other kids too. Ain’t way you not jealous and you acting childish and hateful towards them like you a immature teenager fighting over a boy. Shi is sad smh
@@tsks5939 she wanted to fight her so bad and was trying to intimidate her!! Her actions on this showed proved everything her daughter was saying to be true
This woman was actually going to prove her daughter right and hit her on national TV!!! That mother is HORRIBLE!! She is absolutely vile. I really hope this baby girl heals 💕
The daughter having to yell to try to get a point to the mother is sad, and then seeing the mother smile while her daughters crying really does say something about her
What i learned from having a mom like this is that sometimes it is better to try to heal the damage she caused and move on from that toxic person even tho she was my birth giver doesnt give her any right into my life, i feel for the daughter as my mom would constantly say she never remembered the abuse she put me through, im sending you healing energy hun 🫂
I love Karamo so much he doesn't let the troublemakers leave until he gives them the truth. Some people just blame and blame and blame..... If you don't admit your wrongs your relationships will always be...nothing.
I hope the mother sees this message. You haven’t seen your daughter in 5 years and you can’t hug her? You can’t even apologize for being an irresponsible parent? You can’t even tell the truth about your CPS cases? Do you even love your kids? You owe everyone on that stage an apology. Yes, it’s your fault because you’re grown, you’re her mother, you set the tone.
Five years without seeing your daughter 👀 the mum is mainly screaming “SHE LIES” but not providing any other information. First step could’ve been to aknowledge her wrongs cause she seems to have a hard life too
"Stop fighting with and start fighting for..." - Karamo; the best summarised advice. Shimere, at least now Torianna need not tell folks about you, as you have so evidently shown yourself up for who you really are. I pray for Torianna's healing and peace.
Hurt people hurt people , based on the trauma the daughter experienced… but the mother just explained that SHE WAS IN FOSTER CARE TOO! SHES BROKEN TOO!
well the mother still decided to lay down and have 5 children knowing of her own issues. SHE called the show to fix their relationship but only made things worse and took no accountability. Maybe she needs to stop being so selfish and work on herself before trying to amend anything between her and her children.
Parents like these are why i am going to be a foster parent. I hate seeing her daughter cry. Imagine how much better the world would be if all children were loved.
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Not her getting on the show and proving her daughter right. WE ALL see what's going on!!
Girl that part!
She thought she proved her daughter right by tryna seem like she was such a "great mom"
Yup! She HELL! And if she didn't say nothing else when she said, " ION CARE ABOUT NONE OF THESE CAMERAS!!" she showed us that she's abusive because we all know what that statement meant.
@@lovelythoughts8855 RIGHT GURL BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS TYPE OF COMMENT, AND IT SAIDS A LOT ABOUT THE MOM, SHE'S SO STUPID, AND DELUSIONAL SMH 💯🙄🙄😐😑.
can imagine what these kids went through smh she coming out here don’t even respect the man show just yelling smh
As soon as she said her daughter was a narcissist and a pathological liar I knew she was talking about herself.
Yup
Exactly 😢
Can't keep her eyes or lies straight! Why would all your kids be taken if u did nothing
Yes
How the fuck her mama
I believe every single thing this child said
Me too
I believe the daughter, too. You can't make that up. Cps is not going to take your children for nothing, and I believe her when she said her mom burned her with the iron, especially if she described what led to her burning her with iron
I sure do.....
I believe the daughter the mother is just ridiculous pathetic ASF I wouldn't even want that relationship with her poor child my heart breaks for her
I belive the child too
the daughters yelling shows all the anger and frustration that has been built up for years
And the mother steady smirking and laughing in the corner smdh
@@desiprioleaufrrr
YES AND HER JUST LAUGHING AND LYING IT OFF 😢😭
I got chills when she screamed this “real life” that was pain in that statement 🥺
I was looking for this !!!
@LifeAsDestinyNy u are absolutely gorgeous omg
Her stories were too specific to be lies🤷🏾♀️ especially the hair grease story
Yeah like these are exact moments she’s describing, not just off the top of the head.
And description
rightt
That egg donor is just like hers
Exactly
Parents have this thing where they block out all the trauma they caused on their kids… it traumatized the kids, why wouldn’t they remember that?
Tell me about it
Saw a good line once about this: "the axe forgets, but the tree remembers."
They don’t want to face the pain and ugliness of what they did to their children and their own trauma from their own childhood. I experienced this with my own mother, may she RIP.
preach!!!!
This is awful. Why don’t these type of mothers listen and then apologise. Why can’t they just apologise??
The mom is the biggest narcissist 😢😢 her laughing back stage told it all
My thoughts bc who would act like it’s a joke?!🤦🏽♀️
I swear!
Super weird
Right
Big as hell literally
The daughter should be modeling for print ads. Her face is stunning
Ikr fr
Facts💯💯💯
I literally said that tooo!!!!!
She’s gorgeous!
No, because the way her "mom" was smiling as she explained how she treated her and her siblings when they were children...that's pure evil right there.
The momma said she hated her own child and now playing victim is crazy .
ikr!!! parents who say they hate their children r 99% of the time at fault cus YOU raised them they are a product of the environment you provided
@@shyannh Sometimes it's not because they raised a bratty or disrespectful child. Sometimes they hate their kids because they get older and start calling out the parent's bad behavior and they realise they can't manipulate them anymore.
@@siahlay6883 I truly believe the daughter, and when she said she hated her daughter that proved everything her daughter said she did to be TRUE🤨
I'm glad karamo apologized to the daughter because this was mental abuse on that stage.
Eitherway daughter Won't be blessed cussing her mom out wrong or right ▶️😢
@@fatonyalmitchell3281you people annoy me yall think parents cant do no wrong
@@ronayjah those were your thoughts 💭 alone 🤔 I said what I had to say........
@@fatonyalmitchell3281 i think y’all seem to forget the bible says do not provoke your children. Y’all use honor your parents so y’all can do what y’all want but seem to forget there is another part. People like you are why this generation is so messed up.
@@ronayjah right her mom don’t deserve respect when she can’t respect or listen to her daughter , would never do my daughter like this
Black mothers gotta stop with this trauma being passed down not healing being jealous of their daughters this shit is sad asf fr!!!!
Very
This. It’s so sad
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Oh believe me my other to to a mother did the same. It’s bad. At times they have kids so young repeating what their moms did and being with shitty men etc… they are unhappy with their life and they project that unto you. It’s sad because all I ever wanted to do was feel a parents love.
It's more than sad it's pathetic.
We've been doing this for too long.
I have no patience for trash like that at this point.
If you are an adult and you're making problems for other people because of YOUR problems, you have got to be the pathetic type of person and you will get no grace.
My mother is the EXACT SAME WAY. Blatant lying, abuse, the manipulation, complete disregard for others feelings, the HUMILIATION. I really feel it for this girl, may God bless her.
Big time humiliation for herself even! Acting so childish! Poor girl was in tears and "Mom" just smirked, grins and even laughs?! Tf
Mine too from SA
@@michellekwinda4660 I'm so sorry to hear that, may God heal you🙏
@@strawberry_on_neptune1378 My Dad too and always Dropping some big Threats.
@@jessyjay9801 I'm sorry you had to go through that
She is envious of her daughter’s beauty, innocence, fresh chance at life to succeed and youth. That’s what it comes down to. It’s plastered all over her gross behavior.
Yes, she is so envious. You know how people say that moms who put their daughters in beauty pageants are the worst moms? I used to believe that as well. But, then I see moms like the one in this video and she is making Patsy Ramsey's look like mother of the year.
Amen say it again
You noticed the mom was also cross eyed? 🥴
My family but especially grandma in a nut shell.
Lol y'all be reaching, the mom is actually a nice lookin woman nothing to be envious about she's just a evil narcissist has nothing to do with jealousy smh
The daughter's afro is STUNNING
It is.🙌🏾❤️
She is beautiful ❤
Very beautiful woman
Literally so beautiful 😍
It’s so beautiful!!!
The fact that CPS has been in their life since this baby was two years old is so sad. The mom is wrong for even putting her daughter through this on tv for everyone to see. Her ulterior motive was to expose the daughter but, she really exposed herself.
CPS has been in their life since the baby was two years old? That right there is a red flag.
“I love my daughter 🤓☝🏽” gurl, if you genuinely loved your daughter you wouldn’t have inflicted all this pain on her 😭💀
For real, though but I do believe the mother told the lies. I'm not saying the daughter is evil, but I'm so not saying her mom is a narc. Honestly I do think mostly the daughter was telling the truth.
She doesn’t know what love is like my mother
@@Passion85031 EXACTLYYYY. Burning your daughter with an iron when she was little and then humiliating her on TV isn’t “love”
Thank You!! 💯
The emojis 😂😂
At 1:53 you see Karamo actually start to tear up listening as she list off all the things her mother had done. Like this is a LEVEL of toxicity I've never even seen. It makes me so thankful for my mom.
The mum is crazy. She can see her baby is hurting and she comes out disrespectful
she dont care about noone
And smiling and laughing back stage like wtf
People seem to do that when they are embarrassed but also in denial, because they been justifying their actions and reliving their last accomplishment for so long they tend to forget all the times they weren’t being the good person they justified themselves of being especially realizing they hurting more than the hurt they cause . Parents tend to invalidate their child’s feelings and experience because they feel they had worse . Ofc I don’t agree with that but it helps you understand how someone can seem so heartless. Anywhoo I do agree with you because hurt people shouldn’t hurt people they should heal and stop making excuses
The mother -- and I use that term loosely -- is proof why family is a little overrated at times.
She’s a loser and a drunk. She ought to be ashamed
“Wow so it’s my fault?” “YES!” PERIODDDDD
A conversation is one talk and the other shut up. This way we can hear, both sides of the story. He should have let the daughter tell her side alone and then the mother alone and then both together. Just saying.
@@normajeanchapman8348you know damn well the mother was gunna react the same way
That mother did everything her daughter said she did. I believe the daughter 100%. The mother hasn’t been and isn’t able to own her involvement in the destruction of her children’s lives.
She has big Empress energy. Even in her weakest, vulnerable moments . Imagine this young lady in her power. Healed. I see why the mama
jealous.
I actually really respect this guy. Even though the mom was at the wrong in this situation, I love how he was acting so calm, trying to understand both of their point of views and not taking sides. Got a lot of respect for this man.
this is THE WORSTTT episode i’ve seen yet. her mother is full of it. how you gone call a show to get closer to your child but not ready to sit, listen, & take the accountability. she’s right. her mother will never change & i think it’s great she wants to break a generational curse but she might just have to let go of that relationship with her mother and move on. the way her mother started blaming karamo & his show when she is the PROBLEM. i always hope that everybody who comes on his show leaves with the tools he gives & working on a better relationship.
Listen THE WORST! the mum is Crazy!! Poor girl man
People like her expect things to fall onto their lap without putting in the work. They think that after it's been some years and THEY got over it that everyone else should be over it too. Everything happens on their terms only
She didn't go for any other reason than to prove to the world she is a great mother. Which she isn't
@@laylabrown4251 lmaoo idk how she was going to prove that? she came out there acting a ass off rip.
@@helpkelp3595 and you are totally right! i agree 100%!
Baby girl has to heal 😭☹️that hurts to watch
She does and it’s hard to when the pain is from the person that birthed you 😢
She has a solid head on her shoulders, she's going to. I'm not sure for the mom though.
It really was very painful to watch - especially with " Mom" smiling, smirking & laughing as her own child cried! Smh
I cried watching this , because baby girl is in sm pain. Crying out for help. I’m praying for her peace and prosperity. I hope she is able to heal with or without her mom
The mum is so blind to everything. The poor baby girl man she's hurting so badly I really hope she heals
What’s even sad is that baby girl came there to heal and let go out all the hurt and pain.. and the mom just triggered her again
@@awhynn8270 you and I both. I said a prayer for her the moment she started venting I felt a heavy heart from her
For this young lady to remember all these things like it happened yesterday, and in front of people she don’t know, tells me she is not lying why would she make any of this up? You can hear it in this baby voice I just want to hug her and treat her like my little sister! ❤❤ I pray she finds peace and understanding and most of all healing❤❤❤❤
Me too. As a Mom I was blessed to be married. But they are quick to take our kids I said I would do nothing to get CPS in our life
Her daughter is beautiful. All she wants is her mother's apology and embrace. Her mom is a sad, self-centered woman.
The mom is the narcissist not the daughter. It makes me sad to see the mom trying to play the victim
The daughter is so beautiful. Shoutout to her for at least trying.
Factss
The mama DEFINITELY left them kids alone to go see a man. She was treated that way and she treated her own kids that way.
this! from what the mom said about her own mother and the fact that grandma called cps on her immediately says she likes to play games just like thw mom. I jist wish the best for that hurt young lady and her siblings
“I love my kids. I never abused my kids.” But you called her a the b word. And literally admitting that you DID neglect them and you DID abuse them.
actually she called her a bitch back the daughter said it first from the video I'm looking at it seems like everyone forgets that these teenagers and pre adults can be stressful and disrespectful as hell too some are more of a burden than a blessing, all I can say is THANK GOD I CHOSE NOT TO HAVE KIDS! she not a child she 21
I am wondering if the mother is right about her being a Narcissist because she is exhibiting the tendencies of one.
This world is turning upside down.
10:11 the way they both said “bitch” at the exact same time!! 😂
that mom is crazy asf
Omg I thought I was the only one who noticed that lol that was crazy wild.🤣😂
Lmaoo right
“I’m not tryna get rowdy and make a scene.” Proceeds to be rowdy and make a scene. Disgusting. All kids deserve parents but this woman don’t deserve nothing but isolation and dust from her children.
The comment I searched for damn😔
I just said this
Bruh it’s her making a scene , to prove her daughter’s point…..like what?!😂
You can tell that she was gone make a scene just by the way she was acting when her daughter was speaking HER truth
From the world* honestly.
That lady thought she was going to come out and punk her. When you want to talk to a now grown woman you need to address her as such. She was disrespectful off rip and deserves no relationship with that beautiful young woman.
Why did they keep taking her away from the mom ? And keep giving her back to the mom.
Totally agree 👍🏾💯
@@KatrinaWall-qq2qmbecause for some reason that is what the government wants kids with their moms
To see the mum backstage laughing when the daughter was telling her traumatic upbringing brought me to tears. I pray the daughter finds all the happiness in the world. 🙏
I as a survivor of child abuse myself remembers that I am not the only one who suffered this. My heart goes out to this woman. That failure of a parent disgusts me completely.
THAT GIRL W the fro is GORGEOUS! she looks like kim fields
the abusers always think just bc THEY called the show then that automatically means everyone should believe them
That’s what I’m saying trying to play victim
A narcissist can't stand their FAKE image being thrown in the mud and will do ANYTHING to make themselves look good...... I HOPE she just gets away from her mother, she's too far gone. The mother likely had some bad trauma herself and that's where her daughter can start to forgive her to heal but she's gone.
She doesn’t have to forgive her. That relationship ended before it even started.
Throwing rocks and hiding her hand.
🎯
Yup!
im saying i was ready to box it out atp😂
I wouldn't be surprised if this was literal
My mother was just like this, and unfortunately, she didn't acknowledge anything until she was on her deathbed and was terrified of dying. It's like a punch in the gut.
I'm sorry that happened to you sweetie
10:10 THE WAY THEY CUSSED EACH OTHER AT THE SAME TIME
😢 so sad!
That lady was ALL types of wrong.. “I never just left my kids or gotten them taken “ but in the same breath say you had multiple CPS cases.. which one is it ma’am?? She was taken at 2 and at 7 but everything she saying is a lie? Come on! What was the point of bringing her here?
The point was to expose her daughter for no reason. Wasted our time trying to play the victim. I stand with Torryona. This lady is the devil!!! The worst!
@@Lillysaidthat1Yep. She wanted to run back home and say "hey I attempted to mend our relationship but look at how my daughter acts"
A liar will always say they not lying😂
Its funny that everything she says is the complete opposite of what she does
Facts 🤣🤣
A person telling the truth will say theyre not lying as well
@@christytea1798true but you can kind of tell when someone is lying and persuading you that it’s the truth
She called the show herself and came to gaslight everyone but Karamo wasn’t having it. Bravo Karamo! Prayers to her and her children, they all need help.
This woman is so beautiful!!! I’m no contact with my parents. Sometimes leaving the toxicity behind when people aren’t willing to change is what breaks the generational curse. Choose peace always 💜
The way her mum said "seen who" got me aggravated like it's common sense. Who else is Karamo talking about?
This why I love my Mom…ima give her a hug next time I see her. Sending LOVE to anyone struggling in the relationship with their Mother. Just know God lives you!!!! ❤❤❤❤
❤Lucky you girly. Definitely take your mom on a "Mommy Appreciation" date. Make it a surprise, and give her a few gifts to open. ❤❤❤
I love my mom. It’s soo sad that soo many ppl have this trauma w/ their kids. We’re blessed to have the moms that we do! 💞
You are blessed! Cherish it ❤
Well its hard for me to love mine but i do love her. But me and my mother haven't had Mother & Son relationship after divorce and my and my father been have closer relationship. Please pray for me for better relationship with my mother
Me too! I have a loving, wonderful mom. Thank you, God!
U could immediately see the pain in her daughter’s face. This “momma” only thinking bout herself.
I love how karamo put the mother in her place💯
I'm over her crying because I can relate to her story and I'm 25. Torianna, I'm sorry you had to go through this, and you are NOT alone. It took me 8 years of healing and praying to God. I love my mom from a distant. Now I have two beautiful girls and I promised myself that, I would NEVER let anybody hurt them. I will NOT repeat the cycle. Torianna, you got this, and you are a beautiful black queen.
I can relate to this . I’m 27 years old and my grandparents raised me. Mom gave me away around 3 years old. Now she wanna take credit as if she’s been there and demand me to visit her until I put my foot down. Told me I was disrespectful for telling her my truths about her not being there for me through all the years growing up. Guilt trip me for not seeing her when she wants to ON her time. LADY PLEASE !! I love my mother, but until she takes accountability and heal; her and I Can love from a distance for my Sanity . God Bless
Raising these parents be HARD.
I agree, it’s insanely draining
Man, listen! I'm 39yrs old w a 65yr old child 🤦🏽♂️
Right! Exhausting.
This this this
@@504scroogie_20 same!!!
This was hard to watch. How can you say you love your child, but call your child all kinds of "b"s ....smh
Exactly 💯 wtf kind of a parent is this
Exactly she is so heartless
She’s messed up then even saying she hates her child 🥲🥲
@@Armaria2203 I didn't catch that part wow
My mom has recently done the same thing and she wonder why I don't like her but I love and respect her
If you were super mom and treated your children with love and respect they wouldn’t be on the show airing it all out. I believe everything she said about the mama and what they went through.
So do I💯
Exactly! and the children wouldn't have been in care or cps wouldn't have been involved
I feel soo bad for her daughter . Her mom should be ashamed of herself
If I ever become a mom,I'm gonna try my very best to be the best mum to my kids. This is really heartbreaking 😢
@@FatumaFarah-pv8xm yes, I hope I can be an acceptable mother too, I believe in you sis❤️
My 11 yr old just came and gave me hug out of the blue. I needed that after watching this.😢❤
*hugs* to you my dear.. Jesus loves you so much and so do I
@@JesusLovesYouSoMuch1 🥰🥰🥰
I'd be willing to bet she overheard the show and felt overwhelmed with gratitude.
Ahhh that is so sweet. Always enjoy sweetness hugs.
I feel sorry for her. Her Mom is always going to be a POS who’s never going to take accountability for the abuse and trauma she caused her kids. She thinks it’s funny. 🤦♀️
Long story short, the daughter should NEVER, EVER forgive her mother. I mean NEVER. "Honor thy mother" shouldn't apply to this one.
Yep.
I think the Mom is from Detroit
I know Karamo was frustrated and really wanted to cuss her out.😂😂😂
Karamo is KING!!! I love how he's emphasizes GROWTH instead of the the belligerent fighting people like to see on TV.
This was probably the most heartbreaking episode I’ve watched! Prayers to baby girl 🙏🏾💕
That man clutching his pearls. Was me. Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ is amazing and loves you
Wow this is a mess of a mother...I have no words...praying for this young lady
TRUE ✅️
Yes for her and the rest of her siblings💯🙏🏾
The minute she said she hates her daughter, I knew the daughter would be right.
bro when the mother was stuttering when she was telling her part of the story , you could just IMMEDIATELY tell the big back was lying !! 😭
Not the big back comment 😭
the mother reminds me of my own.. when the daughter started crying after the fight in the end i felt tears, i understood exactly how she felt at that moment.. it reminded me of myself when my mother would mentally/verbally abuse me the same way… daughters of narcissistic moms we really are strong
The daughter is like a wild fire while burning her screams on the inside, even brighter! You’re beautiful with so much sympathy, anger, power, love, justice, honesty, and dignity.
It’s okay to let the flames out, even it’s uncontrollable. The flames of hatred shall be dissipated so the new flames will be born. The new flames or the flames of love will be sealed in your heart as your warmth. Like a phoenix. You are strong and willing. You proved your mother wrong and you’ll have a wonderful motherhood/sisterhood in your future. 🔥❤️🩹
May God bless you. 🙏
She very envious of that young woman. She has no privilege to be called a mother.
Yup, exactly
I’m sorry . If she sees this post , know u are loved and valued. Every child deserves a parent but every parent don’t deserve a child
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Bless your heart Karamo. This beautiful young lady looks like she's had quite the journey in her young life. She needed that hug, that validation, that assurance that this is not her fault. Thank you for giving that to her. I am sitting on my couch crying because of her. I just don't understand why women choose to have children that they don't want and put them through this hell. Thank you for what you do. Truly!!
That poor girl eyes are so tired and drained. Whew this so sad…
“I’m telling you the truth. I’m not lying” she’s lying
She was talking in circles. Like maam you have multiple dcfs cases
4:21 The “You better get her before I get her” says A LOTTT
She’s jealous 😔 a hater would say that to you
That girl is beautiful. May God heal her ❤️
Heavenly Father thou canst do all things, thou art God alone, intervene here in Christ Jesus name, remove the drug influence from the young lady's life, {she mentioned she does that to stay calm} Bring healing to both of them🫂
*_Amen_.*
I can see why she had all them CPS cases, she got on TV and was literally threatening her daughter right there. "Yeah she better do this, she better do that" " I will go to jail today"... Like ma'am...You're proving her point of the neglect and abuse.
Her strolling out in red said it all!! This was her time to shine! She’s a mama bully!
Girl you’re wearing red in your pfp
😂😂@@valeriaramirez2586
My heart brakes for the daughter. Deep down she is a child still looking for her mothers love. And this was just so bad. I hope Karamo helps her with some counseling sessions. She may have to confine her life without this woman in it.
Torryona is not lying about her mother burning her. She gave a exact detailed recalection step by steg of what exactly occurred because when her mother burned her purposely Torryona was shocked instantly that her mother was capable of that level of harm upon her. She was hurt physically and in disbelief creating a life long stain forever engraved in her memory. The mother thinks that if she yells loud enough and flings her arm about wildly while bouncing simultaneously that she will come across as the one telling the truth. But in actuality, I believe every word and description that Torryona is speaking. Children naturally want the love, care and support from their mommy. Her mother takes no responsibility and deflects. I want Torryona to graduate school and put in to be a flight attendant. She's gorgeous and hasn't even fully blossomed yet. Her mother is not going to bring anything to her life other than more misery in the future. I can clearly see that woman becoming jealous and vindictive of Torryona because she so easily spewed the words " I hate my daughter" knowing very well that nobody's ever promised tomorrow. Torryona is so young still and she can't understand or see that blood is not thicker than water when you own mother bring you on national TV for millions to see her level of hate of her daughter. She will never admit it but I'm a extreme empathetic person, I know women like her and I can see. She's always hated her daughter and that's why she burned her when she was little. Most likely the reason is because when she was born the man who fathered her left her and moved on once he realized the type of women he impregnated. The effect triggered a growing resentment of mother to daughter. Torryona baby, as soon as you get a chance baby RUN. Don't worry about you siblings, when they get old enough they'll find you through social media and you guys will rebuild your bond. That woman did give birth to you, but she is not your mother.
You said, it...I hope she moves on and RUN
I don’t like to judge a book by its cover.. but chile her momma is guilty af!
Her laughing backstage is pissing me off!!
Its like she got joy from hearing how horrible she was to her children
@@sleeprelaxbeatinsomnia5904She is SICK!
I caught that shi too. And it’s clear she’s jealous of her daughter and her other kids too. Ain’t way you not jealous and you acting childish and hateful towards them like you a immature teenager fighting over a boy. Shi is sad smh
@@tsks5939 she wanted to fight her so bad and was trying to intimidate her!! Her actions on this showed proved everything her daughter was saying to be true
@@sleeprelaxbeatinsomnia5904 She definitely did with her sadistic ass
This woman was actually going to prove her daughter right and hit her on national TV!!! That mother is HORRIBLE!! She is absolutely vile. I really hope this baby girl heals 💕
The daughter having to yell to try to get a point to the mother is sad, and then seeing the mother smile while her daughters crying really does say something about her
KAROMO YOU ARE A TRUE SOCIAL WORKER A BEAUTUFULL PERSON. I APPRECIATE YOUR PROFESSIONALISM.
The mother is terrible
Burning with an iron !!??? wtf is this ?? an episode of Good Times ??? I’m so sorry all of that happened to them
Aggy 😂 not Good Times but yea babygirl done experienced alot at such a young age wheewww 😢😢
I didn’t mean to laugh
Girl season 2 episode 5 to be exact. Lmao
@@xo_kaydestop it 😂😂😂
That’s not even discipline that’s just straight up abuse
Cut them ties baby girl.
I like the way he comforted the daughter :) I can tell he cares
What i learned from having a mom like this is that sometimes it is better to try to heal the damage she caused and move on from that toxic person even tho she was my birth giver doesnt give her any right into my life, i feel for the daughter as my mom would constantly say she never remembered the abuse she put me through, im sending you healing energy hun 🫂
Byeeee the mom wanted karamos validation so bad 😂
Right
I love Karamo so much he doesn't let the troublemakers leave until he gives them the truth. Some people just blame and blame and blame..... If you don't admit your wrongs your relationships will always be...nothing.
I hope the mother sees this message. You haven’t seen your daughter in 5 years and you can’t hug her? You can’t even apologize for being an irresponsible parent? You can’t even tell the truth about your CPS cases? Do you even love your kids? You owe everyone on that stage an apology. Yes, it’s your fault because you’re grown, you’re her mother, you set the tone.
She will never admit nor say sorry. I feel you sweetheart 😢
Her mom just like mine fr! She’s never gonna forget the abuse and one day she’ll just go away forever knowing her mom won’t change.
Five years without seeing your daughter 👀 the mum is mainly screaming “SHE LIES” but not providing any other information. First step could’ve been to aknowledge her wrongs cause she seems to have a hard life too
"Stop fighting with and start fighting for..." - Karamo; the best summarised advice. Shimere, at least now Torianna need not tell folks about you, as you have so evidently shown yourself up for who you really are. I pray for Torianna's healing and peace.
Hurt people hurt people , based on the trauma the daughter experienced… but the mother just explained that SHE WAS IN FOSTER CARE TOO! SHES BROKEN TOO!
Yea it's clearly a generational curse but at the end of the day ACOUNTABILITY IS FOR ONESELF and that goes on both sides
I’m tired of hearing that quote. It’s not true in a lot of cases.
@DB-vt1kk good point
@DB-vt1kk in some cases it aint
well the mother still decided to lay down and have 5 children knowing of her own issues. SHE called the show to fix their relationship but only made things worse and took no accountability. Maybe she needs to stop being so selfish and work on herself before trying to amend anything between her and her children.
Parents like these are why i am going to be a foster parent. I hate seeing her daughter cry. Imagine how much better the world would be if all children were loved.
In all honesty here torianna is so adorable and cute and beautiful and I sure she has a bright personality beneath this pain I can just see it