Yeah when he said the most important thing is their son and his relationship with his grandma I was thinking no definitely not - mother and daughter need to heal first.
IT'S A BLESSING HOW SHE SAID THE GANGSTERS TREATED HER BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS GONE VE A BAD OUTCOME BUT THANK GOD IT DIDN'T THAT WAS GANSTA TO TAKE CARE OF HER N LOOK HER OUT UNTIL SHE WAS ABLE TO GO HOME
All gang members aren’t bad people yeah they do things that’s shouldn’t be doing but back then gang banging was different they looked out for the community and gave back idk what they doing now well at least this is what I remember back then.
I'm glad about that too. Js shows you that help can come from unlikely places. It's also still a shame that whole gang members took care of her because her own mother wouldn't
People have to report it. CPS doesn't have spidey senses that a child is in danger. People in their community see it but don't report it bc they don't want to be involved. Start there
@@arieltaylor6070 Even when its reported cps barely be helping lmao. Based on my personal experience + many other experiences I've heard, of course they DO help sometimes, but theres also a good chance that they wont.
RIGHT!! But love to pop up on well-intentioned parents cuz their well taken care of kid catches an attitude and says something slick at school... I've seen them go after decent people over absolute nonsense but a child left with strangers, sitting alone into the the late hours, and ending up with black eyes and hand prints on her neck they're MIA or investigate and find nothing 🙄
girl please, they always wanna wait until they on they last years, months, days, mins, & secs of breath to be forgiven. all the hell that people like her give their children & they just up and feel like they should be forgiven & that it’s okay. not taking any accountability, telling her “she’s living in the past” when she caused all the hurt this baby has. my goodness, i’m so sorry for anyone who has this same experience with their parent or parents. i pray mia lives a beautiful life & gets all the love she deserves! i pray her healing process is easy for her! day by day is a process but you’ll get through mia. i hope her mother takes their relationship process, seriously!
Being the child of an abusive Parent who never acknowledged the abuse,her drinking,boyfriends coming into my room and my mother calling me a Liar and then hitting and fighting me,I get this woman. Currently my mother is 82 and with no apology for not only my childhood but adulthood as well as calling my jobs to get me fired, turning my child against me telling her " your Mammy can't afford this or that for you. " She even told my Father I wanted to sleep with him..but now all of a sudden you want me to see you as a mother who loves me now, really? Fact,everyone suddenly becomes a Saint when close to death. I'm afraid I will never know a Mother's love from my biological mother. I've met strangers who have treated me more kindly than my own family and no longer chasing for that love she freely shows my sister,her favorite and my brother who she apologized for the abuse. My sister never experienced the abuse and could care less. I just want peace. Praying for this woman and all trying to overcome thier traumatic childhood. I wouldn't leave my son alone with her one minute .
For real. My 75 year old mother constantly says, “I did the best I can, y’all cannot hold my past against me.” While continuing to try to manipulate us, tell people the worst about us but never what she did wrong, and play my siblings and I against each other. I grew up with people saying I look and act like my mother, because of this I chose not to have kids. That should tell you the type of trauma, I experienced. Today, after years of therapy, Im in a great marriage, successful and my mom is trying to drill in my head that Im taking care of her when she no longer can take care of herself. Out of 13 kids, I know the reason but it’s not happening. I’ve been on my own and taking care of myself since 14, emancipated at 16. I have forgiven and let that pain go but have not forgotten. I love my mother, I understand there is no rule book to parenting but some of the thing my siblings and I went through was heartbreaking. Some of us are so damaged, we will die that way. Im not sorry but outside of making sure she is taking care of, I will not be the one doing it.
A Young Female Child With a Hand Print Around Her Neck, Fist Print in Her Cheek and 2 Black Eyes, all Delivered By Her Own Mother. I Can Only Imagine How She Must Have Felt. 🤦🏾😔
@@gwendolynmanley1973The sad part is you really are dismissive and full of hate. You can not see that you caused the damage to your daughter and yourself. You’re paying for that with your health. You have no shame and your under comments talking crazy!!! Grow up and actually be a mother or not. But don’t expect anything from her that you can’t give yourself!
@@KK-ri2gu She made decisions. Every bad decision isn’t a mistake. Her daughter is still suffering and she’s sitting up on that stage rolling her eyes.
The husband needs to understand THAT IT IS NOT HIS PLACE TO FORCE THIS UNHEALTHY RELATIONSHIP ON HIS TRAUMATIZED WIFE! He did not have the experiences she had. He did not suffer her traumas. He’s forcing this on her to pacify HIS NEED! This is painful for her! What doesn’t he understand? Sometimes it’s best to love family from a distance. This constant pressure on her is causing her to be in fight or flight mode and is going to have a HUGE IMPACT on her as a mother and a wife! He needs to create boundaries in her life and be a safe space for her. She needs therapy. I really think he’s being selfish.
LITERALYYYYYYY I JUST COMMENTED ON THIS. I thought he was going to step for his wife when he stood up. He heard her story and talked about how he loved his MIL. I WOULD BE PISSED.
The mother don’t even care. She said she wants to have an relationship with her daughter but at the same time she’s still not understanding something that is needed to be heard from her daughter. I hope they are doing good tho.
I strongly suspect this mother is a narcissist in its true sense. She wanted empathy (kidney issue), praised herself for her alleged progress when interactions with Mia, deflected when called out and when that didn’t work she tried to sound reasonable to gain Karamo’s respect. All an act. Her body language said it: eye rolling, having most of her body turned away from her daughter and just being cold and dismissive when she was crying talking about being abandoned. I can easily imagine her being abusive towards her children. There’s something very intimidating and manipulating about her.
Yes, it was the way she spoke for me. I grew up with a narcissist as a mother and she'd speak in that same tone while I'm in a highly emotional state so that it makes you look crazy and angry for "no reason". I have a feeling that they speak totally different off stage for sure. She is manipulative and is maybe attempting to get a kidney out of her daughter by even going as far as pretending to want a relationship with her so it can happen
True. Her mom is putting out an act it's all a facade just so she can possible have the kidney... she didn't even once embrace ber daughter.. she is evil.
You don't have sympathy for the mother she went through a lot if one person makes mistakes you can correct it by discussing the problem no matter how much mistakes mother is mother
@@KK-ri2gujust because she birthed her doesn’t make her a mother. And just because they have the same blood doesn’t make them family. Just because ur family u doesn’t mean u have to fix things . Or be on good terms. Or even have them in ur life. A lot of time blood isn’t no thicker than water. There is no sympathy for a terrible woman who didn’t care for her kid and is now rolling her eyes being dismissive not taking accountability or even a genuine apology or inch of remorse.
This girl needs healing. She is very hurt. I don't blame her . when you have been hurt like this you have to have boundaries and the people that hurt you and a lot of times the just won't accept that.
It’s always the man being falsely optimistic- why would you ever want a person like that consistently hurting your wife and around your baby? His intentions are selfish too-
This girl is such a sweetheart. You can tell. She's naturally more on the sensitive of things, and her calloused mother took advantage of it. A lot of insufficient mothers do. At the same time, in order for this girl to heal, she's going to have to forgive her mother and accept her for who she really is. The mother is emotionally locked off. She does not feel that maternal linkage to her. That's all it is. Let her go and move on.
Just imagine a little 7 year old girl being abandoned by her “mom” so her “mom” can chase a ridiculous pipe dream that will never come to fruition, and the little girl is left alone outside sitting on the bench available for anyone with bad intentions. That’s horrifying, scary and that breeds a certain kind of insecurity that takes forever to heal in adulthood. Bad parents really need to understand how much they impact their children with their neglectful and selfish choices. And now the mother really expects her daughter to give her an ORGAN, when she couldn’t even give her daughter safety or security. Hell NO.
Her husband is there for his kid.. he needs to support his wife in this situation.. not treating the mom and his wife equally saying I love them both... Right now his wife needs him his child is fine.. his wife is not
Imagine having a child that has to heal for from you as an adult and then being surprised that she doesn’t want to give you an organ to save your life . The entitlement
Thats why you watch how you treat your kids! She dont wanna give her mom a kidney!! Let that sink in! A child dont wanna help a mother live longer! She must have really hurt this daughter!
the fact that she say her bloated neck up there and initially stated she didn’t know why her daughter hates her. ma’am go Hail(spelled wrong intentionally)
When her mom looked around like why is she telling on me! I felt that! They will act like your making up things! And everyone will believe her because she’s mom
"I dont know why my daughter hates me so much" next she says "Mia when you gonna forgive me?" I hate parents act like they never know what they did. If you did nothing why are you asking for forgiveness?
Yes! When she looked at her daughter and said “can I talk?!” It’s the way she said it, the look she gave, you can tell she wanted to speak in a harsher tone. That “gangsta” her daughter was sayin🥴
No conversations don’t need to be had at all. This relationship needs to end completely and the husband needs to respect that her mother is stuck In her ways.
My mom is just like this. Has done so much hurt to me and my brothers and they dont speak to her and she now acts like we owe her and she never owns anything.
The ONLY reason the “mom“ is sitting here listening to all this stuff ab herself is to benefit herself in hopes of her daughter taking enough pitty on her to offer her a kidney. She knows how much her daughter craves that acknowledgment & unconditional maternal love from her so she will give just enough until she can get what she wants in return.
@@KK-ri2guAnd as a mother (or father), you do whatever you can to make sure your kids don’t go through rough times. She subjected her daughter to horrible times.
That's terrible 😢and you can tell she's not lying she can't even get a full sentence out without crying she should be ashamed of herself sitting up there smiling I'm so hurt 😢
it's been almost 5 years since i went no contact with my birth mother. i'm a survivor of narcissistic and physical abuse. my feelings were never expressed, because they never mattered in my household. eventually, children who grow up and become survivors of narcissistic abuse get so tired of pandering to their parent's narratives. they eventually see the real truths in the world, and the way adults are supposed to act. over time, the rhetoric that the child received from their parent is gradually dissolved as a lie. my heart constantly goes out to people like me with similar stories-- especially those whose souls scream inside, "maybe she'll love me if i...". i stopped trying to fill that hole 5 years ago. eventually, you love yourself more and it's worth the cut when the situation is bad enough. realizing that her severe narcissistic personality disorder made her an unfit mother, and that it wasn't my fault, helped me a lot in my healing journey.
From another black women who has been abused by a parent its years of trauma and disorder that can and has developed in my life! Its a different type of pain going through years and years of abuse since a childhood and it was normal that you realize it affecting you as you grow into adulthood. A person who never been abuse will not understand!
The daughter's body language alone speaks volumes. She keeps a physical distance and is always leaning away from her. Cuddos to her for trying to be present with her abuser during the conversation.
The way her mom was smirking in the back when her daughter was talking about her trauma and how she laughed and smirked when karamo said I wanna make sure im here for mia really rubbed me the wrong way. Her mother wants sympathy for her cancer but won't comfort her own daughter for what she put on her daughter. I pray that her daughter finds peace within herself and be the mom to her child that her mother can never be❤
An invalidating parent is not good to be around and that parent will never change. Learn to create a new normal that doesn’t include them. Once you experience joy, positivity and peace in your life you won’t feel the need to heal with that parent because you’ve done it on your own. Then, if they come around or you wish to see them, they won’t have the ability to trigger you. Still though, set boundaries and meet seldom.
That mother’s reaction to her hurt and tears and then talking over her daughter saying “she lives in the past” triggers my childhood trauma 😢. That husband needs to be quiet because it’s not his issue be supportive or stay out of it.
She’s a narcissist. It’s almost like she is marveling in her daughter’s pain. It’s interesting how she conveniently “forgets” the really abusive instances her daughter recalls.
Great video, there is nothing like a perfect marriage or relationship, I learnt that in everything there is always a solution, 5 years ago I and my wife divorced because we were having some difficulties in our marriage but we are back together ,it was a really bad phase but we got through it
there is a lot of sense in what you just said and I hope mine works the same way too, we are currently separated but I cant live without her, I love her so much. wish I can get her back I can do anything to have her back, we have tried therapy amongst other things
its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is SHELLY RENEE WHITE.
It is actually ABUSIVE of her husband to gaslight his wife by making her feel like she needs to reconcile with someone who abused her so badly. I’m disappointed and I hope the daughter finds REAL support for her.
Yea🥹 that actually pissed me off. is he starting with I love both this woman, no, you love your wife you stand next to your wife you protect your wife man it pissed me off honestly.
The fact that literal gang members treated her better than her own mother and the neighbors that was supposed to be taking care of her is just sad and shameful
Let this be a lesson for any toxic people out there. Nobody is required to forgive you when you think they should. You caused them pain and hurt. And just because she may forgive you doesn’t make her obligated to continue the relationship
I've never been as emotional watching Karamo as with this episode. I feel the daughter's pain like a grueling slow knife stab. And after all that, she still wants to mend things with her mom. God bless her soul and give her the healing she deserves 🙏🏾
I just want to hug her 😩😔 she has so much trauma and so much bad things go on to her I just want to console her and tell her it’s gonna be okay she have so much built up sadness and anger and what her mom did to her and those neighbors is not okay everyone around her failed her except for her husband
Queen; you need healing inside and out. 🙏❤ In addition, we are looking at an adult, but that 7 year old baby was the one talking and crying out to her mom ❤.
Im binge watching these episodes, one thing I noticed is that the Narcissistic Mother is always smiling while the daughters tell the story. Its so scary, its always the same demonic smile. Today is mother's day & my heart really breaks for these Daughters who didn't have the Mom they deserved to have. ❤❤
0:28 So the mom went from saying, ‘I don’t know why my daughter hates me’ and then in the same breath say ‘ I asked my daughter when you gone forgive me’ she is exposing herself. Not even 30s into this emission.
Sweet girl keep your child away from her That negativity will spill over onto your child I kept my kids away from mine Trust me, it's a way better situation. They don't have nothing to use against you and they don't have anything bad to say about you to your children because if somebody doesn't like you, there is no way in hell they can like your children.
I never believe a parent when they say “I don’t know why my child doesn’t love me/talk to me/care for me”. YOU KNOW WHY. Mom doesn’t want to have the conversations. She doesn’t want to take accountability for the hurt she caused. She just wants to jump straight to the reconciliation… same reason I don’t talk to my mother 😔 I’m 27. I still want my mom sometimes..and she just doesn’t like me and refuses to care for me.
Anybody else clock Karamo checking the husband? I’m sure his intentions were good, but how can you come into the conversation not focusing on your wife when she’s hurting so badly? Don’t forget to be a husband while being a father. And talm bout he love both his mother-in-law and his wife, putting them on the same level. I’m glad Karamo checked him and told the wife/daughter that at least he (Karamo) was there for her right after her husband said that mess.
Being a mom and grandma and have a baby grandson..., my husband and I gave and gave and gave. We traveled and each child was exposed to the best. My husband is deceased now and I will still give, last year a car. I UNDERSTAND a mom's story. We never did drugs nor drank . I did my best but after every one grew up I may or may not hear from them unless I CALL THEM. I am 80+ and live alone.
@zoespeaks7404, in my opinion the husband made profound points, for the wives healing. The husband is concerned about his wife, he is encouraging her to choose peace, so that she won't have any regrets when the mother check out on earth. It his opinion and I agree with him. Unfortunately some people don't have a forgiving hearts, they hold on to whatever happened to them. And some people are wired to forgive no matter how bad you did them. I don't the daughter, but its seems she is not even close to forgiveness. I had a friend who went through childhood trauma, and profusely blamed her mother for it. Her mother at some stage, improved her life, took to the daughter to prestigious private schools, tertiary education. She could tolerate her mother then, the minute's she achieved academically and could stand on her own, she remembered everything and started the hate all over again. Years later the mother died, and she went through the worse depression. Now she talks to her mother through prayer and regrets everything. Her two other siblings who went through the same with their mother, chose peace and embrace her for the struggles and appreciated that she took care of them when she could. Have no mental break down. They are fine. Unfortunately our hearts are wired differently.
Nah, let her shine brighter in heaven. She doesn’t deserve your kidney. See the way she is acting all calm trying to make Mia look hysterical? That’s the true face of this woman. May God protect us all.
God has not given this girl a mom yet..but a broken human being that she shares genetics with has left so many scars that its like walking on broken glass daily to be together.
I never believe it when a mother says they have no idea why their child doesnt like them. I immediately clocked bullshit with the moms video.
Exactly they be knowing
Narcissist
You gotta be a New Yorker🤔 you said “clocked”
@@Hollygdorsey1that’s not nyc slang
fr they know 😂😂
the husband talked about ending generational toxicity but I think continuing their relationship is actually more toxic than just cutting ties.
Yeah when he said the most important thing is their son and his relationship with his grandma I was thinking no definitely not - mother and daughter need to heal first.
Exactly!!
This
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I Agree
IT'S A BLESSING HOW SHE SAID THE GANGSTERS TREATED HER BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS GONE VE A BAD OUTCOME BUT THANK GOD IT DIDN'T THAT WAS GANSTA TO TAKE CARE OF HER N LOOK HER OUT UNTIL SHE WAS ABLE TO GO HOME
fr I was nervous when she mentioned that
All gang members aren’t bad people yeah they do things that’s shouldn’t be doing but back then gang banging was different they looked out for the community and gave back idk what they doing now well at least this is what I remember back then.
Not advocating gangbanging, but, in reality, gangs become family for many who don't have family.
I'm glad about that too. Js shows you that help can come from unlikely places. It's also still a shame that whole gang members took care of her because her own mother wouldn't
@@sereneamani1713 yep agreed
CPS is never around when they supposed to be there for children that are really getting abuse.
People have to report it. CPS doesn't have spidey senses that a child is in danger. People in their community see it but don't report it bc they don't want to be involved. Start there
@@arieltaylor6070 Even when its reported cps barely be helping lmao. Based on my personal experience + many other experiences I've heard, of course they DO help sometimes, but theres also a good chance that they wont.
exactly...
RIGHT!! But love to pop up on well-intentioned parents cuz their well taken care of kid catches an attitude and says something slick at school... I've seen them go after decent people over absolute nonsense but a child left with strangers, sitting alone into the the late hours, and ending up with black eyes and hand prints on her neck they're MIA or investigate and find nothing 🙄
@@Peachez_and_ThePits So true, let’s think about this situation🤔7 years old this baby was in school. So no one ever reported it to CPS?
When parents say they don’t remember that means they did it
Yes
Don't judge her she went through hard time herself
She was on drugs , she may truly not remember that incident
No it doesn't lol
Exactly.
That mother doesn't deserve a kidney from her daughter, she abandoned her as a child.
Even from the intro the mom was being self centered and ignorant. Her daughter deserves and deserved everything. Blessings to her.
Shut up! Nobody cares what you think!
What's crazy is while she said this things she could have hugged her. Asked to hug her. Held her.
That is the same thing that I thought.
Instead she was rolling her eyes and smirking.
Period..her mom is just straight up toxic!!!!
girl please, they always wanna wait until they on they last years, months, days, mins, & secs of breath to be forgiven. all the hell that people like her give their children & they just up and feel like they should be forgiven & that it’s okay. not taking any accountability, telling her “she’s living in the past” when she caused all the hurt this baby has. my goodness, i’m so sorry for anyone who has this same experience with their parent or parents. i pray mia lives a beautiful life & gets all the love she deserves! i pray her healing process is easy for her! day by day is a process but you’ll get through mia. i hope her mother takes their relationship process, seriously!
Speak it
this should have way more comments! such truth 💯💯
Being the child of an abusive Parent who never acknowledged the abuse,her drinking,boyfriends coming into my room and my mother calling me a Liar and then hitting and fighting me,I get this woman. Currently my mother is 82 and with no apology for not only my childhood but adulthood as well as calling my jobs to get me fired, turning my child against me telling her " your Mammy can't afford this or that for you. " She even told my Father I wanted to sleep with him..but now all of a sudden you want me to see you as a mother who loves me now, really? Fact,everyone suddenly becomes a Saint when close to death. I'm afraid I will never know a Mother's love from my biological mother. I've met strangers who have treated me more kindly than my own family and no longer chasing for that love she freely shows my sister,her favorite and my brother who she apologized for the abuse. My sister never experienced the abuse and could care less. I just want peace. Praying for this woman and all trying to overcome thier traumatic childhood. I wouldn't leave my son alone with her one minute .
Thank you for this comment❤️
For real. My 75 year old mother constantly says, “I did the best I can, y’all cannot hold my past against me.” While continuing to try to manipulate us, tell people the worst about us but never what she did wrong, and play my siblings and I against each other. I grew up with people saying I look and act like my mother, because of this I chose not to have kids. That should tell you the type of trauma, I experienced. Today, after years of therapy, Im in a great marriage, successful and my mom is trying to drill in my head that Im taking care of her when she no longer can take care of herself. Out of 13 kids, I know the reason but it’s not happening. I’ve been on my own and taking care of myself since 14, emancipated at 16. I have forgiven and let that pain go but have not forgotten. I love my mother, I understand there is no rule book to parenting but some of the thing my siblings and I went through was heartbreaking. Some of us are so damaged, we will die that way. Im not sorry but outside of making sure she is taking care of, I will not be the one doing it.
all her mom cares about is the potential to get a kidney match from her daughter. how disgusting
fr i'm pretty sure that's the only reason
Ufff im really praying this aint the reason cause this is so vile
I believe that too
That’s exactly what I was thinking!! She want a kidney from her..may be a match.
Easy to judge raising 4 children by herself is not an easy task she went through hell always mother where is the father ?
A Young Female Child With a Hand Print Around Her Neck, Fist Print in Her Cheek and 2 Black Eyes, all Delivered By Her Own Mother. I Can Only Imagine How She Must Have Felt. 🤦🏾😔
Drugs? & she needs a kidney? Why? She destroyed a good 😊 one…. But I wouldn’t give her mine.
@@Sandra-by9rq I Wouldn't Blame You. 🤷🏾
@@Sandra-by9rqnot I wouldn’t give her mine 😂😂😂 yooo
The eye rolling alone was dismissive as hell. Smh. 😒
So!
@@gwendolynmanley1973The sad part is you really are dismissive and full of hate. You can not see that you caused the damage to your daughter and yourself. You’re paying for that with your health. You have no shame and your under comments talking crazy!!! Grow up and actually be a mother or not. But don’t expect anything from her that you can’t give yourself!
yes !!
@@gwendolynmanley1973You don't like for people to point out your mistakes.
@@gwendolynmanley1973you are evil
That mama just wants a kidney. I wouldn’t have any relationship with her either.
Honestly, it's so sad.
You know what even stranger can give the kidney she herself went through rough times if one person makes mistakes you can be nice and show them love
@@KK-ri2gu she needs to show love first. That is her child.
@@KK-ri2gu, her mom didn't just make mistakes; she chose to abuse and abandon her daughter...
@@KK-ri2gu She made decisions. Every bad decision isn’t a mistake. Her daughter is still suffering and she’s sitting up on that stage rolling her eyes.
The husband needs to understand THAT IT IS NOT HIS PLACE TO FORCE THIS UNHEALTHY RELATIONSHIP ON HIS TRAUMATIZED WIFE! He did not have the experiences she had. He did not suffer her traumas. He’s forcing this on her to pacify HIS NEED! This is painful for her! What doesn’t he understand? Sometimes it’s best to love family from a distance. This constant pressure on her is causing her to be in fight or flight mode and is going to have a HUGE IMPACT on her as a mother and a wife! He needs to create boundaries in her life and be a safe space for her. She needs therapy. I really think he’s being selfish.
LITERALYYYYYYY I JUST COMMENTED ON THIS. I thought he was going to step for his wife when he stood up. He heard her story and talked about how he loved his MIL. I WOULD BE PISSED.
1000% agree
YES
💯 he cannot see or hear his wife's pain
Yessss
The way karamo is calling her delusional in the nicest ways 😂
fr
😂😂
Always putting sugar on 💩
@@marathonbleuhe has to stay professional. I’m sure he is trained too how to handle these situations.
The mother don’t even care. She said she wants to have an relationship with her daughter but at the same time she’s still not understanding something that is needed to be heard from her daughter. I hope they are doing good tho.
13:50 look at the way she flinches when her mom gets even just a tiny bit close to her! I feel so bad for her😢
I noticed that as well; a child trapped in an adult body crying for help and no one heard her not even her teachers.
@@yvonnebrendamiller6305 Fr! So upsetting 😔
No one who is lying about something cries the way this girl cried smh
I strongly suspect this mother is a narcissist in its true sense. She wanted empathy (kidney issue), praised herself for her alleged progress when interactions with Mia, deflected when called out and when that didn’t work she tried to sound reasonable to gain Karamo’s respect. All an act. Her body language said it: eye rolling, having most of her body turned away from her daughter and just being cold and dismissive when she was crying talking about being abandoned. I can easily imagine her being abusive towards her children. There’s something very intimidating and manipulating about her.
Yes, it was the way she spoke for me. I grew up with a narcissist as a mother and she'd speak in that same tone while I'm in a highly emotional state so that it makes you look crazy and angry for "no reason". I have a feeling that they speak totally different off stage for sure. She is manipulative and is maybe attempting to get a kidney out of her daughter by even going as far as pretending to want a relationship with her so it can happen
i agree
@helpkelp3595. You could definitely be right about that. She comes across combative.
I’m sorry about your upbringing, that can’t be easy.
True. Everything this mom said and her facial expressions scream "fake". It is undoubtedly an act just so she can have a kidney
True. Her mom is putting out an act it's all a facade just so she can possible have the kidney... she didn't even once embrace ber daughter.. she is evil.
I wouldn't even have a relationship with my mother after all that happened. I'd tell people I don't have a mom.
honestly
You don't have sympathy for the mother she went through a lot if one person makes mistakes you can correct it by discussing the problem no matter how much mistakes mother is mother
@@KK-ri2gujust because she birthed her doesn’t make her a mother. And just because they have the same blood doesn’t make them family. Just because ur family u doesn’t mean u have to fix things . Or be on good terms. Or even have them in ur life. A lot of time blood isn’t no thicker than water. There is no sympathy for a terrible woman who didn’t care for her kid and is now rolling her eyes being dismissive not taking accountability or even a genuine apology or inch of remorse.
EXACTLY
Yes
This girl needs healing. She is very hurt. I don't blame her . when you have been hurt like this you have to have boundaries and the people that hurt you and a lot of times the just won't accept that.
It’s always the man being falsely optimistic- why would you ever want a person like that consistently hurting your wife and around your baby? His intentions are selfish too-
This girl is such a sweetheart. You can tell. She's naturally more on the sensitive of things, and her calloused mother took advantage of it. A lot of insufficient mothers do.
At the same time, in order for this girl to heal, she's going to have to forgive her mother and accept her for who she really is. The mother is emotionally locked off. She does not feel that maternal linkage to her. That's all it is. Let her go and move on.
Just imagine a little 7 year old girl being abandoned by her “mom” so her “mom” can chase a ridiculous pipe dream that will never come to fruition, and the little girl is left alone outside sitting on the bench available for anyone with bad intentions. That’s horrifying, scary and that breeds a certain kind of insecurity that takes forever to heal in adulthood. Bad parents really need to understand how much they impact their children with their neglectful and selfish choices. And now the mother really expects her daughter to give her an ORGAN, when she couldn’t even give her daughter safety or security. Hell NO.
Also, what a vile family to continually leave her outside of the house alone.
“chasing a ridiculous pipe dream that will never come to fruition” this made me laugh 😂😂
@@michaelamitchell1603I chuckled too
I really want to give the daughter a hug. I feel so bad for her
Just because you forgive a person doesn't mean you have to deal with them family included
Well said
The POINT!
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Do not give her your kidney!
EVER!!!
@SarahD-uy5pfexactly what I was thinking!!! She ruined her kidneys and now she wants her daughters...tragic
That daughter needs acknowledgement, ownership and accountability from her mother. That's it. To say you don't know why she's mad is total bull.
True.
Her husband is there for his kid.. he needs to support his wife in this situation.. not treating the mom and his wife equally saying I love them both... Right now his wife needs him his child is fine.. his wife is not
The mother is very rude and cold !!!
Please don't judge her she went through rough times
@@KK-ri2gu i see where you're coming from, there is no excuse to abuse your children though
@@KK-ri2guI’m seeing you in all comment defending this woman, is that you ?
So what!
Imagine having a child that has to heal for from you as an adult and then being surprised that she doesn’t want to give you an organ to save your life . The entitlement
Thats why you watch how you treat your kids! She dont wanna give her mom a kidney!! Let that sink in! A child dont wanna help a mother live longer! She must have really hurt this daughter!
Nah her mom a narc cause what she smiling and shit for 😒
Right !!!!!
the fact that she say her bloated neck up there and initially stated she didn’t know why her daughter hates her. ma’am go Hail(spelled wrong intentionally)
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When her mom looked around like why is she telling on me! I felt that! They will act like your making up things! And everyone will believe her because she’s mom
I'm so happy for my Sweet, Supportive,and Loving Mother!!!!! Best Mom, EVER❤😊 So sorry for her not having a Mother like that😢
I called my mom after watching this.
"I dont know why my daughter hates me so much" next she says "Mia when you gonna forgive me?" I hate parents act like they never know what they did. If you did nothing why are you asking for forgiveness?
Wow, daughter is mature and sees the big picture and long run. Good for her!
Husband mature and responsible too!
Am I the only one that sees that the mother was showing her true self and it slowly and rapidly increased and decreased
Yes! When she looked at her daughter and said “can I talk?!” It’s the way she said it, the look she gave, you can tell she wanted to speak in a harsher tone. That “gangsta” her daughter was sayin🥴
Exactly! The fake syrupy act faded pretty damn quick. Narcs can never hide their true selves for long.
@@quinnykayy4356 exactly
No conversations don’t need to be had at all. This relationship needs to end completely and the husband needs to respect that her mother is stuck In her ways.
My mom is just like this. Has done so much hurt to me and my brothers and they dont speak to her and she now acts like we owe her and she never owns anything.
The ONLY reason the “mom“ is sitting here listening to all this stuff ab herself is to benefit herself in hopes of her daughter taking enough pitty on her to offer her a kidney. She knows how much her daughter craves that acknowledgment & unconditional maternal love from her so she will give just enough until she can get what she wants in return.
Facts!!!!
Narcissism in its glory
Like a true grimy narcissist
But the daughter better NEVER give her that kidney.
1000%
The eyes never lie! There is something so sinister about the mom, I can see it clear as day. All she wants is a kidney from the daughter smh!
She is a terrible mother I am sorry but I feel bad for her daughter 😢
Please don't be judgemental she had rough times
@@KK-ri2guAnd as a mother (or father), you do whatever you can to make sure your kids don’t go through rough times. She subjected her daughter to horrible times.
That's terrible 😢and you can tell she's not lying she can't even get a full sentence out without crying she should be ashamed of herself sitting up there smiling I'm so hurt 😢
Thank you 😊
You don't have to be in any toxic persons life regardless if they family or not
it's been almost 5 years since i went no contact with my birth mother. i'm a survivor of narcissistic and physical abuse. my feelings were never expressed, because they never mattered in my household. eventually, children who grow up and become survivors of narcissistic abuse get so tired of pandering to their parent's narratives. they eventually see the real truths in the world, and the way adults are supposed to act. over time, the rhetoric that the child received from their parent is gradually dissolved as a lie. my heart constantly goes out to people like me with similar stories-- especially those whose souls scream inside, "maybe she'll love me if i...". i stopped trying to fill that hole 5 years ago. eventually, you love yourself more and it's worth the cut when the situation is bad enough. realizing that her severe narcissistic personality disorder made her an unfit mother, and that it wasn't my fault, helped me a lot in my healing journey.
Beautifully put 👏
From another black women who has been abused by a parent its years of trauma and disorder that can and has developed in my life! Its a different type of pain going through years and years of abuse since a childhood and it was normal that you realize it affecting you as you grow into adulthood. A person who never been abuse will not understand!
The daughter's body language alone speaks volumes. She keeps a physical distance and is always leaning away from her. Cuddos to her for trying to be present with her abuser during the conversation.
The way her mom was smirking in the back when her daughter was talking about her trauma and how she laughed and smirked when karamo said I wanna make sure im here for mia really rubbed me the wrong way. Her mother wants sympathy for her cancer but won't comfort her own daughter for what she put on her daughter. I pray that her daughter finds peace within herself and be the mom to her child that her mother can never be❤
karamo really be out here healing families fr and that's incredible!
An invalidating parent is not good to be around and that parent will never change. Learn to create a new normal that doesn’t include them. Once you experience joy, positivity and peace in your life you won’t feel the need to heal with that parent because you’ve done it on your own. Then, if they come around or you wish to see them, they won’t have the ability to trigger you. Still though, set boundaries and meet seldom.
Very well stated. 🥂
That mother’s reaction to her hurt and tears and then talking over her daughter saying “she lives in the past” triggers my childhood trauma 😢. That husband needs to be quiet because it’s not his issue be supportive or stay out of it.
The mom is so prideful
Mom Looks Like The Octopus Lady On Little Mermaid
Ursula😂😂😂😂😂
Cant unsee it now😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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That’s disrespectful to Ursula
so weird how the mom is just watching and smiling at her daughter's traumatic recall of her childhood
She’s a narcissist. It’s almost like she is marveling in her daughter’s pain. It’s interesting how she conveniently “forgets” the really abusive instances her daughter recalls.
I saw that too
Sometimes you have to know that a connection is not always needed. This daughter needs to cut off all contact and move forward with her life.
Great video, there is nothing like a perfect marriage or relationship, I learnt that in everything there is always a solution, 5 years ago I and my wife divorced because we were having some difficulties in our marriage but we are back together ,it was a really bad phase but we got through it
there is a lot of sense in what you just said and I hope mine works the same way too, we are currently separated but I cant live without her, I love her so much. wish I can get her back I can do anything to have her back, we have tried therapy amongst other things
its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is SHELLY RENEE WHITE.
this is helpful, I will look her up. I hope this works for me too, I really miss her.
when he said” you don’t ever apologize for your emotions ” i felt that!!!!
It is actually ABUSIVE of her husband to gaslight his wife by making her feel like she needs to reconcile with someone who abused her so badly. I’m disappointed and I hope the daughter finds REAL support for her.
Yea🥹 that actually pissed me off. is he starting with I love both this woman, no, you love your wife you stand next to your wife you protect your wife man it pissed me off honestly.
⁰p⁰ poop 15:09 ⁸o up l⁹7⁷ppp
I think he’s falling for the moms bullshit
Facts 💯💯💯
yeah but even tho the girl takes her child to his granma's house, that's crazy, why would you do this? I mean, she's a bad person
If you are out on the streets and have guilt about leaving your kids to have fun, this will be you 15 years from now. Pls get help.
The fact that literal gang members treated her better than her own mother and the neighbors that was supposed to be taking care of her is just sad and shameful
Her mom really thinks that by sounding kind and saying what her daughter wants to hear will get her a kidney🤣 sorry sis, but this is it
Mom’s a martyr. False & void of genuine feelings
My heart goes out to her. 🙏🏾❤️ If someone doesn’t like me, they’ll never be around my child.
Karamo need a raise for the consistent posting and we love you ❤
I’m not the type to comment but my heart literally breaks for her… I pray for her healing
Let this be a lesson for any toxic people out there. Nobody is required to forgive you when you think they should. You caused them pain and hurt. And just because she may forgive you doesn’t make her obligated to continue the relationship
Because you changed, doesn’t make it untrue. Unbelievable.
look at her body language 6:02 shes leaning away bc she cant stand being round her mom respectfully she scarred her daughter
I've never been as emotional watching Karamo as with this episode. I feel the daughter's pain like a grueling slow knife stab. And after all that, she still wants to mend things with her mom. God bless her soul and give her the healing she deserves 🙏🏾
Definition of a bad mom.
I’m not a professional but the mom seems like a sociopath in some moments
The daughter is so pretty and her husband is so well spoken. 🥰
I just want to hug her 😩😔 she has so much trauma and so much bad things go on to her I just want to console her and tell her it’s gonna be okay she have so much built up sadness and anger and what her mom did to her and those neighbors is not okay everyone around her failed her except for her husband
lol whoops! Real mom came out several times during this episode.
This!!!
facts 😂😂
She working hard for that Kidney match
😂😂😂😂
I’m dead 😂
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Queen; you need healing inside and out. 🙏❤ In addition, we are looking at an adult, but that 7 year old baby was the one talking and crying out to her mom ❤.
So she's only upset that her daughter wont give her a kidney, wow..😒
its that little girl with in her that want that hug from her mom prayer that they get the healing they need.
Im binge watching these episodes, one thing I noticed is that the Narcissistic Mother is always smiling while the daughters tell the story. Its so scary, its always the same demonic smile. Today is mother's day & my heart really breaks for these Daughters who didn't have the Mom they deserved to have. ❤❤
0:28 So the mom went from saying, ‘I don’t know why my daughter hates me’ and then in the same breath say ‘ I asked my daughter when you gone forgive me’ she is exposing herself. Not even 30s into this emission.
Aww the daughter is so gorgeous and kind ❤ I wish I can hug her.
Sweet girl keep your child away from her
That negativity will spill over onto your child
I kept my kids away from mine
Trust me, it's a way better situation. They don't have nothing to use against you and they don't have anything bad to say about you to your children because if somebody doesn't like you, there is no way in hell they can like your children.
I can relate and this is so true.
I never believe a parent when they say “I don’t know why my child doesn’t love me/talk to me/care for me”. YOU KNOW WHY.
Mom doesn’t want to have the conversations. She doesn’t want to take accountability for the hurt she caused. She just wants to jump straight to the reconciliation… same reason I don’t talk to my mother 😔 I’m 27. I still want my mom sometimes..and she just doesn’t like me and refuses to care for me.
Anybody else clock Karamo checking the husband? I’m sure his intentions were good, but how can you come into the conversation not focusing on your wife when she’s hurting so badly? Don’t forget to be a husband while being a father. And talm bout he love both his mother-in-law and his wife, putting them on the same level. I’m glad Karamo checked him and told the wife/daughter that at least he (Karamo) was there for her right after her husband said that mess.
At first I thought you meant checking as in he's hot😂. The way he said you look nice made me side eye karamo
Being a mom and grandma and have a baby grandson..., my husband and I gave and gave and gave. We traveled and each child was exposed to the best. My husband is deceased now and I will still give, last year a car. I UNDERSTAND a mom's story. We never did drugs nor drank . I did my best but after every one grew up I may or may not hear from them unless I CALL THEM. I am 80+ and live alone.
My husband would have to square up with me after that one. You see me crying on that stage, and you say a whole lot of NOTHING.
Right. That was so messed up. Karamo shut him up, though
@zoespeaks7404, in my opinion the husband made profound points, for the wives healing. The husband is concerned about his wife, he is encouraging her to choose peace, so that she won't have any regrets when the mother check out on earth. It his opinion and I agree with him.
Unfortunately some people don't have a forgiving hearts, they hold on to whatever happened to them. And some people are wired to forgive no matter how bad you did them. I don't the daughter, but its seems she is not even close to forgiveness.
I had a friend who went through childhood trauma, and profusely blamed her mother for it. Her mother at some stage, improved her life, took to the daughter to prestigious private schools, tertiary education. She could tolerate her mother then, the minute's she achieved academically and could stand on her own, she remembered everything and started the hate all over again.
Years later the mother died, and she went through the worse depression. Now she talks to her mother through prayer and regrets everything.
Her two other siblings who went through the same with their mother, chose peace and embrace her for the struggles and appreciated that she took care of them when she could. Have no mental break down. They are fine.
Unfortunately our hearts are wired differently.
No, the husband said he was only there for his son and completely ignored his wife’s pain.
He is an idiot
I wish theres a show like KARAMO in Nigeria..
I have loads and loads to unload from parental trauma
This brought tears to my eyes. 😢
she’s beautiful, i’m crying with her omg !! 😢
The mother didn't focus on the pain of the daughter and neither did the husband. Acknowledge her and her experience.
Please do a update on them so many mother daughters can relate to this story ❤🙏
Nah, let her shine brighter in heaven. She doesn’t deserve your kidney. See the way she is acting all calm trying to make Mia look hysterical? That’s the true face of this woman.
May God protect us all.
“I’m your mother you are my daughter”. In other words whatever I do to you doesn’t matter bc I’m above you and you are below me.
Where are her brothers?
God has not given this girl a mom yet..but a broken human being that she shares genetics with has left so many scars that its like walking on broken glass daily to be together.
Wow she’s so beautiful I hope she gets some healing god bless you mama stay strong
I hate that “i’m sick” manipulation. My mother in law’s mother been saying she dying for 30 years. I just roll my eyes like sure you are
Mom still didn’t touch her or hug her once. That baby need a hug so bad.