Never force a man for a title! It never ends well. When men tells you they don't want a title believe it, nothing you can do will make them change their minds. They'll just string you along.
Valid. It happened to me and we are happily in a partnership now. Love can take time to set in even if you don't intend him to😊 but NEVER beg!! Express your boundaries and desire. Let them respond and move accordingly
Something isn’t right here. Did he say he wanted to be in a committed relationship because he found his plan exploding in his face or is he really afraid of losing her? Something definitely isn’t right here.
Yes. I knew that from the get go. He just should've been honest and not been with her then smh. But i know how it is to get attached to other people's kids and parent's. Sucks to break up bc of them not the partner as much 😆
2024 don’t settle nor beg for a title in anyone’s life , Vise Versa . Life is too short to settle and not be true to your self , and doing what makes you happy .
Ladies please do not have kids with the bad boys and then expect the next man to embrace your kids. Nature has not designed the male species that way. You can still find a good man but it's hard for the most part 😊
Not even necessarily have kids already but at the very least somebody willing and open to dating someone with kids. As soon as she said he doesn’t want to date someone with kids I was confused why she even stayed around
Vanessa seems so genuine and sweet. I hope he wasn't just saying "will you be my girlfriend" because they are on a tv show. We will need an update on them in the future.
Trevor wants his first child to be with someone also having their first with him. He wants that bond. Not only has he probably experienced trauma, but he’s probably been watching “red pill, manosphere content”. His parents want their own grandchildren and their own legacy. There’s nothing wrong with that. I hope Vanessa finds someone who desires her and accepts her children as well. She shouldn’t force titles on others that they don’t want.
The audacity of this girl to bring that man on Karamo to basically force him into a damn relationship when all in all he’s made it very clear as to what he wants & where he stands!!..it’s more like she’s being delusional…the fact she’s really giving him an ultimatum Lmaoo she’s hilarious & then bringing him on here to unlock his phone as if there’s some type of commitment!!!..make it make sense As a single man he don’t have to proof anything to her!!..she’s bugged out..he don’t owe her no loyalty
Why is he dating her then if he doesn't want to be with a woman who has children? He needs to leave her alone if he doesn't want to be with a woman who has children!!!
@@sandrarice4197he’s not dating her and he’s made it clear where he stands on boundaries. I’m not saying he’s right for continuing the emotional stuff, but me as a mother if the man im talking to tells me he doesn’t want to date someone with kids I’d remove myself…
If a mans words aren't reflecting his actions then its very easy for a woman to be lead on. Same if the roles were reversed. Unfair to point fingers at this woman for wanting to fight for love. Her feelings are as valid as his are. She was lead on and use as a place holder.
@kiravideos.5353 he is dating her though? He's just playing both sides. He tells her he loves her, they are always together. They're dating 😂. He wants the benefits of dating, with the benefits of not dating.
I mean if I can be your friend when you broke and needy why I can’t be your friend when your living an elite lifestyle 😂😂 honestly I feel like she doesn’t want to be her friend because her other friends are more with her lavish lifestyle which doesn’t matter you can have friends of all walks of life!
He’s doesn’t seem like a bad guy but he really needs to fix that habit of stringing people along, if you don’t want a ready-made family, why specifically go after women with children?
When he said he wanted to start a family it made sense. He loved this woman but at the same time he wants his own legacy. I wonder if they spoke about that in private?
@@ItzGood-dn3jx those weren’t his kids he came into that relationship and took on the role. Which is why he said he never wanted to date another woman with children.
Listen. Never let a man tell you and show you too many times that he doesn't want you. She fxcked up when when she went back after she put her foot down. I fell in love with a former "best friend" the same way, and when he showed me that he didn’t want me and my children I moved on with my life. Sometimes who or what we want just isn't for us.
This man doesn’t want a committed relationship with a woman with children, he stated that. He has every right to feel that way, but, her selective hearing is only hurting herself in the end. That relationship won’t last long.
A man asked me to marry him at sea world in front of everyone. I was so pissed because I had to say yes to keep from embarrassing him. I went off on him afterwards because he knows WE WEREN’T EVEN IN A DAMN RELATIONSHIP. Weird a$$! We never had $ex or even kissed. 😂
Girl with three kids! Girl bye, focus on your kids and grow up. Stop forcing men to want to be with you if they don't, how many times does a man have to tell you he don't want you. Once. Bye
Men, it’s okay to not want a woman with kids! It’s your preference there’s nothing wrong with that. I believe it’s best for women to date another man with kids because he has experience as a father. It’s a risk to date a man with NO kids because you’re going to expect so much from him when he has no experience to apply what’s expected!
Totally agree. I'm a single mother and I think it's ok that a man or a woman dont want to be with someone who has kids already, if they dont have themselves
@@radiantgoldensun6438 no what’s not ok is for her to agree to casually having sex and then try and FORCE the man into something you BOTH agreed to not have. She knew she wanted him and thought if she waited it out he would give in. That’s her fault NOT his. And this is why casual sex shouldn’t be had.
@@wordwalkingonrightousnessdaily force lmfao-he is benefitting while dragging her along, we know what it is 🤷🏽♂️ as a man he needs too hold accountability-this is the kind of thing that drive people crazy-double speak with hypocritical actions.
This man shared his fears and feelings and yall still bashing him. This is why brothers keep their feelings inside. She seems like a stand up gal. I hope they work and are happy together.
She really does. They seem like they have a really good relationship. I can see the commitment issue- taking on a whole family. That's nothing anyone can prepare u for. I think they'll b okay
i don't think so when you're single you do certain things such as partying alot etc. when you are married you cut down on certain things because now you have responsibilities such taking care of your kids among other things. so i just think her friend was being unreasonable
Negative. My bet friend and I were together 24/7 until I met and married my husband. Some of the things you can do with your friend while you are single are no longer acceptable while you are in a relationship or learning to be in one. I totally understand what her friend was saying. Marriage and relationships change you. It's clear her and her husband have boundaries that's she is respecting them (as she should)…..I don't blame her. Why would she want to disrespect him and bring negativity into her home and family? They are on two different paths. She isn't wrong at all. I'd distance myself as well if my friends weren't supportive. Luckily, I have friends that have lives of their own. We meet and hang when we can. No pressure, still nothing but love.
@@BMMJT21i think after 10 years if they weren’t friends I don’t think that’s bringing negativity into their relationship. If they were friends when she was broke they can remain friends while she’s rich too. Friends til the end. It doesn’t take 10 years to learn to be in a friendship.
Women, please call 911 instead of the males in your life when you’re in danger. Too many of our Brothers are dead or in jail when it could’ve been avoided.
I’m so irritated with the first couple because he did NOT lead her on. He told her straight up and then they both agreed to not be together but still hang out. Now she’s upset bc now she wants more when he told you he wants a family of his own. How dare yall try to make him change his preference . He didn’t lead her on , they had a great time together and both did what they wanted to do! What yall need to be doing is telling her that just bc you have a good time with someone doesn’t mean that’s your partner. Yall were amazing friends and that’s it, be fine with that and let that man start his family. Yall forced him to ask that girl out. They’ll be broken up soon don’t worry
that relationship is not going to last. pressuring that man to being with her was the wrong move. i believe Karamo should have focused more on getting her to back off and wait until he was “ready”. i hope the best for them though, maybe i am wrong.
Girl, He has told you clearly how he felt about being with someone that has kids, he didnt sugar coat it and it always amazes me women think they either can change a mans mind or just doesnt want to hear him. He likes your company, has love for you and your kids but GIRL you are not the one! You are wasting your time. He maybe a nice guy, you connect, you hang out with each other and your families but he calls you BAE FRIEND. That is not mixed messages, it is so obvious and clear. We as women hold onto things because of what someone has done for us and equate that to this being our partner, he must love me etc. She has as I call it the Superman ideology, where he came in at her time of need, rescued her and he made her feel something from that point on. I was in the same position way too long but I knew what it was, I wasted my time and no one can waste your time unless you allow them to PERIOD! Cut your loses and move on! He may never find someone like her or that same connection but if he doesnt want someone with kids that is his right but he definitely should stop being with her because he knows what she wants and he doesnt want the same. I didnt like the pressure given to him on TV because if he truly is a nice guy he may have done just exactly that say Yes not to hurt her but later on still hurt her afterwards. Would love an update!
All of WHAT YOU SAID!!!!! She and Kamaro pressured him into something he LITERALLY said from go what he didn’t want. Like ma’am pick up your dignity and find someone else. You cannot sex him into a relationship.
I might sound insecure but I won't be in that relationship and risk him going out and cheating on me because he feels stuck and forced to stick around.
I like them both but I DID NOT WANT THIS FOR THEM‼️ She made more excuses for him than he did for himself. Even after he apologized she gave him a way out of that. He shouldn’t have to suffer to spare her feelings.
OMG the second story with the friends. Swear I'm so tired of these crybaby supposed to be grown women. You didn't invite me, talk to the hand, just childish schoolgirl actions. Ugh
@@rrmalone7836 right. That woman is not about to blow her good thing. Finally got a man that's behaving as a man should and her buddy wanted her to ruin that by keeping her in the club. She needs to work on herself and go find her a man.
The question that should've been asked is, "Do you not want a relationship in general with anyone, or do you just not want a relationship with her?" Then she would hear it and need to determine what it is she's willing to do. It's on her. He told her from the beginning, and yes, he strung her along, BUT she didn't have to bring herself or her children on that ride
Girl.. he told you that he didn’t want you. Do not let him string you along. A man who wants you will do anything in his power to have you and keep you.
In the second case, they have outgrown each other. They are in different paths in life. A casual friendship is the best they can hope for, maybe a monthly brunch, but they will never be close again.
I don’t understand her even starting a relationship with a man who made it very clear in the beginning he didn’t want a relationship with someone who has kids. The mistake is thinking you can change someone’s mind.
As a fellow Scorpio I have found myself in situationships like this a few times and at the end of the day you just gotta know your worth and leave him alone. You know what you have to offer, give it to somebody who actually wants you even if that means being alone for a little while. You can’t force a man to do anything he don’t wanna do, and if he does let you force him it’ll be HELL.
he doesnt want kids & that is fine . but for him to build bonds with the kids that is a BIG NO NO 💯 you shouldnt insert yourself in them kids life if you dont plan on being with they mother . PERIOD !
She got so upset when he said that’s a plus and he has every right to feel that way. I have no kids n I’ve never dated men with kids bc my first has to be his first so his feelings are valid
He wants to have his own family. He can set out to have what he wants. He needs to be honest with every woman he dates, potentially dates. And same with her. She can’t chase after someone. She seems like a nice person, good mother, takes care of herself and her children. She will find someone that wants what she wants. Hopefully both do .
This chick is hardheaded. As a woman with kids, why are you chasing after a man that doesn’t want a woman with kids?! It works both ways. He shouldn’t be going for women with kids and she shouldn’t be chasing after a woman with that criteria. He was comfortable not committing and continuing to talk to other women because she allowed it. Even after not unlocking the phone and Karamo telling her to move on she still did a last ditch effort to say “so you don’t want to be with me?” 🤦🏽♀️
She seems like a sweet girl, but we as women have to believe what people are telling us. He shouldn't be stringing her along however he said from the beginning he wants his own family. I wouldn't have forgotten that.
Why does he have to apologize for “leading her on”? She’s a big girl with children. He told her from jump he don’t want a woman with kids & she kept allowing him back into her & her kids space.
Accountability is the woman's kryptonite at Karamo knows it. He also knows who his main audience is. He lost cool points on this one. Luckily he has a surplus.
@@cotrellwright8697accountability is a black man’s kryptonite that’s why y’all don’t have a good standing in society. Look at the community. The black community is a matriarch not a patriarch. That right there alone negates your statement.
You forget he has been breadcrumbing her, we get mixed signals as women and if they are from someone we like, we become hopeful and we end up confused...at least she came forward to get clarity
Hello Kamaro , l'm from Brazil..since l've watched your program for the first time can't stop watching it anymore..you're so amazing l love you..Congrats.. ..
What I will say is he was wrong with still being sexual with her and doing couple things when he knew he didn't want her. But she is wrong as well he told her in the beginning that he did not want to date a women with kids and she ignored it because of how she feel.
How you get mad at him for expressing his truth then act surprised when he acts on it, women like this are frustrating just say you thought you could change him and failed, unfair asf
I agree with Bianca. She is respecting her husband and family. The second situation sounded like cometha was wanting a relationship. She needs to invest her time elsewhere.
She was coming off as a lesbian to me. It seems like she is love with her. That woman is doing right by being a wife who respects her husband. Naw she can't hang out all night when her husband is at home. Single women will sometimes keep you single if u allow them
LMAO girl if you don't leave him. You canNOT force a man to change his feelings, EVER. He is not going to change and he already showed you who he is. It's not gonna last baby, let him go and find you a man with kids and have a happy blended family.
He can’t help he was attracted to her but the fact she got kids is out of his control. You make grown decisions you face having to deal with what comes with that. Nobody’s perfect but certain stuff can be avoided.
He could've avoided this if he stayed true to himself and not have given this woman mixed signals. HE involved himself with her knowing she had children. HE involved himself in her children's life despite saying he "didn't wanna get with a woman who has kids." His words and his actions didn't match up, and YES he did lead her on. He admitted that emotion was involved, whether y'all want to admit it or not... by definition they were technically dating. He put himself in this situation as much as she put herself in it. Do not point fingers to one party!!!
Friends are beautiful but even ur your shadow will leave you in the dark, learn to let seasonal people go and watch the next seasons come and just maybe they’ll attach to the roots ❤💔❤️
Sorry Karamo, but he isn't leading her on. He told her at the beginning, and all throughout their situationship, and again on your show, that he doesn't want a relationship with a woman who has kids. She's an adult, who made the adult decision to sleep with him and bring him into her children's lives anyways...for 2 years. I don't see it working out, because Karamo basically guilted him in to being her boyfriend.
Do you guys not understand that, as men, we become fearful and paralyzed by situations from our past? I'm glad Karamo was able to help him decipher his feelings and allowed him to understand himself better. His saying he doesn't want a woman with kids is a fear response from an adverse past event. He was in a seven-year relationship with a woman who had children.
I dont think he would have asked her to be his girlfriend if u didnt want her. I think he was scared of building bonds with her kids. He clearly loves her
The comments are really misleading just as much as this man. He definitely gives strong mixed signals and he is just stringing her along with all the actions of love and saying I love you and all that. Furthermore Trevor didn’t want to put a title on it for the very simple reason of not bearing any official responsibility by being able to leave whenever he feels like it or when things gets too much for him instead of being in a relationship where there are expectations and responsibilities that have to be put when the relationship is exclusive. Titles in relationships are very important because it gives us security and stability and even clarity in defining a relationship. Also if he didn’t want a woman with kids why get into this in the first place and start dating for a period of time? She only wanted to confront because he gives her mixed messages and she loves him.
He is the problem. Stop placing yourself into situations with women you don’t like or can’t fully commit to. A woman/man w/ children comes as a package. If that’s not what you want, keep it moving. He has every right to want what he wants. He needs to set himself on a path to go for exactly what he wants. As for her, there are plenty of men who love women with children with pure intentions and want exactly that! Patience sis. Also, never beg a man for a title. Women are to present and not pursue. Your king is coming. Keep working on yourself, taking care of those kids and living your life. It’ll all fall into place in due season.
She needs to get as far away from that lady as possible. She acts like a crazy, obsessed, ex boyfriend. It's been 10 years and she's still thinking about that girl.
the fact of the matter is if you were already dating her then why would you come out of nowhere & say “i don’t want anyone with kids” …why waste her time? then if a man isn’t willing to commit to you after two years then move on. you shouldn’t force anyone to be with you.
It’s like they’re trying to FORCE him into a relationship🙄🤦🏾♀️you can tell he’s trying to let her down easy
I agree
Exactly...he don't want to hurt her feelings...he don't want her..
you dont know though.
No karomo was giving him a way out
Never force a man for a title! It never ends well. When men tells you they don't want a title believe it, nothing you can do will make them change their minds. They'll just string you along.
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And use it against you later...
Agree
Valid. It happened to me and we are happily in a partnership now. Love can take time to set in even if you don't intend him to😊 but NEVER beg!! Express your boundaries and desire. Let them respond and move accordingly
Something isn’t right here. Did he say he wanted to be in a committed relationship because he found his plan exploding in his face or is he really afraid of losing her? Something definitely isn’t right here.
He doesn’t want to commit to someone with kids and that’s ok find a man that has kids already and leave him alone.
Yes. I knew that from the get go. He just should've been honest and not been with her then smh. But i know how it is to get attached to other people's kids and parent's. Sucks to break up bc of them not the partner as much 😆
@@chelseaalexander2899 he was honest with her though she chose to fall for him anyway.
2024 don’t settle nor beg for a title in anyone’s life , Vise Versa . Life is too short to settle and not be true to your self , and doing what makes you happy .
Ladies please do not have kids with the bad boys and then expect the next man to embrace your kids. Nature has not designed the male species that way.
You can still find a good man but it's hard for the most part 😊
Not even necessarily have kids already but at the very least somebody willing and open to dating someone with kids. As soon as she said he doesn’t want to date someone with kids I was confused why she even stayed around
Absolutely nothing wrong with a man with no children wanting a woman with no children.... and this is coming from a single mother.
Of course you'd say that, but it's better for the majority when kids from another father are involved
@@stonemuk it depends
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On what?
Bingo best answer I’ve read good ones but this is the best
Absolutely folks need to respect that
Vanessa seems so genuine and sweet. I hope he wasn't just saying "will you be my girlfriend" because they are on a tv show. We will need an update on them in the future.
He’s going to still screw around. 🙄
Yeah he did that bc he felt cornered on TV.
They’re not in a relationship therefore there’s no need for her to go through his phone. He is a single man
Exactly what are they looking for
Exactly! Left me confused.
Facts
Right
He wants the cookie BUT NOT THE COOKIE JAR !!! STOP GIVING UP THE COOKIE LADIES … 🙄🙏🏽🇨🇦
Exactly 💯
Simply
Girl just leave.. you making yourself look bad.. he’s treating like a place holder.
Absolutely. She’s a placeholder. She gotta move on.
Trevor wants his first child to be with someone also having their first with him. He wants that bond. Not only has he probably experienced trauma, but he’s probably been watching “red pill, manosphere content”. His parents want their own grandchildren and their own legacy. There’s nothing wrong with that. I hope Vanessa finds someone who desires her and accepts her children as well. She shouldn’t force titles on others that they don’t want.
The audacity of this girl to bring that man on Karamo to basically force him into a damn relationship when all in all he’s made it very clear as to what he wants & where he stands!!..it’s more like she’s being delusional…the fact she’s really giving him an ultimatum Lmaoo she’s hilarious & then bringing him on here to unlock his phone as if there’s some type of commitment!!!..make it make sense
As a single man he don’t have to proof anything to her!!..she’s bugged out..he don’t owe her no loyalty
Why is he dating her then if he doesn't want to be with a woman who has children? He needs to leave her alone if he doesn't want to be with a woman who has children!!!
@@sandrarice4197he’s not dating her and he’s made it clear where he stands on boundaries. I’m not saying he’s right for continuing the emotional stuff, but me as a mother if the man im talking to tells me he doesn’t want to date someone with kids I’d remove myself…
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If a mans words aren't reflecting his actions then its very easy for a woman to be lead on. Same if the roles were reversed. Unfair to point fingers at this woman for wanting to fight for love. Her feelings are as valid as his are. She was lead on and use as a place holder.
@kiravideos.5353 he is dating her though? He's just playing both sides. He tells her he loves her, they are always together. They're dating 😂. He wants the benefits of dating, with the benefits of not dating.
10 years ? Wow it would stay that way honestly
😂😂😂 she’s not going to call her a$$ when they leave the show! The other one just wants access to that elite lifestyle
I mean if I can be your friend when you broke and needy why I can’t be your friend when your living an elite lifestyle 😂😂 honestly I feel like she doesn’t want to be her friend because her other friends are more with her lavish lifestyle which doesn’t matter you can have friends of all walks of life!
@@niqquethomas4799 that’s true but after 10+ years she’s reaching.
He is not a bad guy. He told yall how he feels and what he wants for his life.
He is a bad guy. Why stay in a relationship and waste time with someone you clearly don’t like?
He’s doesn’t seem like a bad guy but he really needs to fix that habit of stringing people along, if you don’t want a ready-made family, why specifically go after women with children?
When he said he wanted to start a family it made sense. He loved this woman but at the same time he wants his own legacy. I wonder if they spoke about that in private?
He already started a family with someone else, he already has two kids!!
@@ItzGood-dn3jx those weren’t his kids he came into that relationship and took on the role. Which is why he said he never wanted to date another woman with children.
Listen. Never let a man tell you and show you too many times that he doesn't want you. She fxcked up when when she went back after she put her foot down.
I fell in love with a former "best friend" the same way, and when he showed me that he didn’t want me and my children I moved on with my life. Sometimes who or what we want just isn't for us.
This man doesn’t want a committed relationship with a woman with children, he stated that. He has every right to feel that way, but, her selective hearing is only hurting herself in the end. That relationship won’t last long.
Exactly
Exactly.
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If he doesn't want to commit please stop forcing him...he has a right to want his own family
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He leaving as soon as they land can’t put somebody on the spot like that and expect a genuine response
A man asked me to marry him at sea world in front of everyone. I was so pissed because I had to say yes to keep from embarrassing him. I went off on him afterwards because he knows WE WEREN’T EVEN IN A DAMN RELATIONSHIP. Weird a$$! We never had $ex or even kissed. 😂
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@@Icannotloseoh my lord I would be so damn pissed like bruh leave me tf alone 😂😂😂
@@IcannotloseI’m sorry you went through that but low key this is hilarious.
@@Icannotlosewould’ve been an easy no for me
Trevor is agreeing to something he doesn’t want. He needs to make a decision that works best for him.
not karamo saying “we got time“ cause no serious !! 🤣🤣
He felt pressured…
That’s not the way to get your boyfriend.
Girl with three kids! Girl bye, focus on your kids and grow up. Stop forcing men to want to be with you if they don't, how many times does a man have to tell you he don't want you. Once. Bye
As a woman with kids, I respect him for his honesty. There’s nothing wrong with his preference, he’s entitled to that
Men, it’s okay to not want a woman with kids! It’s your preference there’s nothing wrong with that. I believe it’s best for women to date another man with kids because he has experience as a father. It’s a risk to date a man with NO kids because you’re going to expect so much from him when he has no experience to apply what’s expected!
Totally agree. I'm a single mother and I think it's ok that a man or a woman dont want to be with someone who has kids already, if they dont have themselves
It’s ok-what’s not ok is to continue to deal with her knowing where her feelings are at 🤷🏽♂️
@@radiantgoldensun6438 no what’s not ok is for her to agree to casually having sex and then try and FORCE the man into something you BOTH agreed to not have. She knew she wanted him and thought if she waited it out he would give in. That’s her fault NOT his. And this is why casual sex shouldn’t be had.
@@wordwalkingonrightousnessdaily force lmfao-he is benefitting while dragging her along, we know what it is 🤷🏽♂️ as a man he needs too hold accountability-this is the kind of thing that drive people crazy-double speak with hypocritical actions.
This man shared his fears and feelings and yall still bashing him. This is why brothers keep their feelings inside. She seems like a stand up gal. I hope they work and are happy together.
I completely understand where he is coming from. I don't knock him at all. But I blame her for not listening
So we gonna force this man who has stated clearly that he doesn’t want anyone with kids to… be with someone who has kids?🤨
Vanessa seems so kind and sweet. I hope everything works out for her 🙏🏻
She really does. They seem like they have a really good relationship. I can see the commitment issue- taking on a whole family. That's nothing anyone can prepare u for. I think they'll b okay
The ‘friend’ feels she has upgraded and her former friend is beneath her.
i don't think so when you're single you do certain things such as partying alot etc. when you are married you cut down on certain things because now you have responsibilities such taking care of your kids among other things. so i just think her friend was being unreasonable
Negative. My bet friend and I were together 24/7 until I met and married my husband. Some of the things you can do with your friend while you are single are no longer acceptable while you are in a relationship or learning to be in one. I totally understand what her friend was saying. Marriage and relationships change you. It's clear her and her husband have boundaries that's she is respecting them (as she should)…..I don't blame her. Why would she want to disrespect him and bring negativity into her home and family? They are on two different paths. She isn't wrong at all. I'd distance myself as well if my friends weren't supportive. Luckily, I have friends that have lives of their own. We meet and hang when we can. No pressure, still nothing but love.
@@BMMJT21Well said 👏👏
@@BMMJT21i think after 10 years if they weren’t friends I don’t think that’s bringing negativity into their relationship. If they were friends when she was broke they can remain friends while she’s rich too. Friends til the end. It doesn’t take 10 years to learn to be in a friendship.
Women, please call 911 instead of the males in your life when you’re in danger. Too many of our Brothers are dead or in jail when it could’ve been avoided.
I’m so irritated with the first couple because he did NOT lead her on. He told her straight up and then they both agreed to not be together but still hang out. Now she’s upset bc now she wants more when he told you he wants a family of his own. How dare yall try to make him change his preference . He didn’t lead her on , they had a great time together and both did what they wanted to do! What yall need to be doing is telling her that just bc you have a good time with someone doesn’t mean that’s your partner. Yall were amazing friends and that’s it, be fine with that and let that man start his family. Yall forced him to ask that girl out. They’ll be broken up soon don’t worry
that relationship is not going to last. pressuring that man to being with her was the wrong move. i believe Karamo should have focused more on getting her to back off and wait until he was “ready”. i hope the best for them though, maybe i am wrong.
Girl, He has told you clearly how he felt about being with someone that has kids, he didnt sugar coat it and it always amazes me women think they either can change a mans mind or just doesnt want to hear him. He likes your company, has love for you and your kids but GIRL you are not the one! You are wasting your time. He maybe a nice guy, you connect, you hang out with each other and your families but he calls you BAE FRIEND. That is not mixed messages, it is so obvious and clear. We as women hold onto things because of what someone has done for us and equate that to this being our partner, he must love me etc. She has as I call it the Superman ideology, where he came in at her time of need, rescued her and he made her feel something from that point on. I was in the same position way too long but I knew what it was, I wasted my time and no one can waste your time unless you allow them to PERIOD! Cut your loses and move on! He may never find someone like her or that same connection but if he doesnt want someone with kids that is his right but he definitely should stop being with her because he knows what she wants and he doesnt want the same. I didnt like the pressure given to him on TV because if he truly is a nice guy he may have done just exactly that say Yes not to hurt her but later on still hurt her afterwards. Would love an update!
I agree with you just a whole lot for Girlfriend title to me he isn't ready... Period
I agree. Cause after he kept trying to tell her in a nice way she didn't want that answer she kept pushing
All of WHAT YOU SAID!!!!! She and Kamaro pressured him into something he LITERALLY said from go what he didn’t want. Like ma’am pick up your dignity and find someone else. You cannot sex him into a relationship.
He doesn't want to hurt her cuz he likes her but she is not for his life.
I might sound insecure but I won't be in that relationship and risk him going out and cheating on me because he feels stuck and forced to stick around.
I like them both but I DID NOT WANT THIS FOR THEM‼️
She made more excuses for him than he did for himself. Even after he apologized she gave him a way out of that. He shouldn’t have to suffer to spare her feelings.
It should have been his choice he doesn't seem ready im sure the relationship will be good just hope it no regrets and it lasts
I agree with Karamo but she needs to take responsibility for her part. He told her upfront that he didn’t want her and she stuck around.
OMG the second story with the friends. Swear I'm so tired of these crybaby supposed to be grown women. You didn't invite me, talk to the hand, just childish schoolgirl actions. Ugh
Yes be foreal, 10 years!!! Let it go, it’s giving jealous, obsessive and immaturity!
@@rrmalone7836 right. That woman is not about to blow her good thing. Finally got a man that's behaving as a man should and her buddy wanted her to ruin that by keeping her in the club. She needs to work on herself and go find her a man.
Definitely some jealousy going on!
I died when she said he needs to "run it by her first" 😂😂😂....like girl....be fuckin fr 😂😂😂😂
Trevor you have a right to design YOUR life. Find a woman without children. Leave your friend alone so you both can be happy. You are not wrong ❤❤❤
Basically sweetie he wants a relationship JUST NOT WITH YOU!!...MOVE TF ON!! He's been clear, she's CHOOSING not to listen
The question that should've been asked is, "Do you not want a relationship in general with anyone, or do you just not want a relationship with her?"
Then she would hear it and need to determine what it is she's willing to do. It's on her. He told her from the beginning, and yes, he strung her along, BUT she didn't have to bring herself or her children on that ride
Girl.. he told you that he didn’t want you. Do not let him string you along. A man who wants you will do anything in his power to have you and keep you.
In the second case, they have outgrown each other. They are in different paths in life. A casual friendship is the best they can hope for, maybe a monthly brunch, but they will never be close again.
If desperate was a person, never force anyone to want you. He should chasing you sis
I don’t understand her even starting a relationship with a man who made it very clear in the beginning he didn’t want a relationship with someone who has kids. The mistake is thinking you can change someone’s mind.
He not going to be faithful
As a fellow Scorpio I have found myself in situationships like this a few times and at the end of the day you just gotta know your worth and leave him alone. You know what you have to offer, give it to somebody who actually wants you even if that means being alone for a little while. You can’t force a man to do anything he don’t wanna do, and if he does let you force him it’ll be HELL.
Signs have nothing to do with it. 🙄🤦
he doesnt want kids & that is fine . but for him to build bonds with the kids that is a BIG NO NO 💯 you shouldnt insert yourself in them kids life if you dont plan on being with they mother . PERIOD !
She shouldn’t allow the kids to get too close to him.
You can’t insert yourself in a child’s life…,as women we should not allow men around our children
Girl changed because she gotten an update. When she falls down. Hope she doesn't come back. This happened to me before.
She got a man and now she don't want her old friends...been there done that....
She got so upset when he said that’s a plus and he has every right to feel that way. I have no kids n I’ve never dated men with kids bc my first has to be his first so his feelings are valid
He wants to have his own family. He can set out to have what he wants.
He needs to be honest with every woman he dates, potentially dates. And same with her.
She can’t chase after someone. She seems like a nice person, good mother, takes care of herself and her children. She will find someone that wants what she wants. Hopefully both do .
He wants the benefits of having a girlfriend but not the responsibility 🤦🏾♀️ move on he isn’t the one sis
This chick is hardheaded. As a woman with kids, why are you chasing after a man that doesn’t want a woman with kids?! It works both ways. He shouldn’t be going for women with kids and she shouldn’t be chasing after a woman with that criteria. He was comfortable not committing and continuing to talk to other women because she allowed it. Even after not unlocking the phone and Karamo telling her to move on she still did a last ditch effort to say “so you don’t want to be with me?” 🤦🏽♀️
I appreciate his transparency.
She seems like a sweet girl, but we as women have to believe what people are telling us. He shouldn't be stringing her along however he said from the beginning he wants his own family. I wouldn't have forgotten that.
I liked the 2 friends at the end. Kuramo pointed out some bad habits in friendships that could heal a lot of broken bonds 👏🏽💐
Why does he have to apologize for “leading her on”? She’s a big girl with children. He told her from jump he don’t want a woman with kids & she kept allowing him back into her & her kids space.
Accountability is the woman's kryptonite at Karamo knows it. He also knows who his main audience is. He lost cool points on this one. Luckily he has a surplus.
@@cotrellwright8697accountability is a black man’s kryptonite that’s why y’all don’t have a good standing in society. Look at the community. The black community is a matriarch not a patriarch. That right there alone negates your statement.
And he kept dealing with her knowing what she wanted. They are both grown and responsible.
You forget he has been breadcrumbing her, we get mixed signals as women and if they are from someone we like, we become hopeful and we end up confused...at least she came forward to get clarity
This is NOT her man. She shouldn’t feel she has any access to his phone material.
Hello Kamaro , l'm from Brazil..since l've watched your program for the first time can't stop watching it anymore..you're so amazing l love you..Congrats..
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SHE IS SELFISH SHE FEELS AS IF SHE IS ON TOP OF THE WORLD NOW SHE GETS A HUSBAND NOW SO U BECOMES NOBODY TO HER NOW
I wish that he wouldn't have asked her to be his girlfriend so quickly. He seems to be a people pleaser.
He doesn't want her. Girl wake up
He sounds like Jim Jones...I love his voice
He’s not wrong for wanting to be with someone with no kids so he could start a family of his own !
As a single mom, i really don't blame him. He will be an instant dad, taking on the financial responsibility and drama(if any).
He has a right to create HIS OWN FAMILY! That’s what you supposed to do smh.
You can’t force someone to be with you…
Just stay friends
Vanessa is a sweet person she can find someone who accepts her situation.
What I will say is he was wrong with still being sexual with her and doing couple things when he knew he didn't want her. But she is wrong as well he told her in the beginning that he did not want to date a women with kids and she ignored it because of how she feel.
How you get mad at him for expressing his truth then act surprised when he acts on it, women like this are frustrating just say you thought you could change him and failed, unfair asf
Girl bye. When a man tells you what he wants believe him. If he tells you what he doesn’t want? Believe him. He doesn’t want you or your kids. Move on
I wouldn't have unlocked my phone either,their not together. He has clearly told her from day 1.....Lady move on.
I agree with Bianca. She is respecting her husband and family. The second situation sounded like cometha was wanting a relationship. She needs to invest her time elsewhere.
She was coming off as a lesbian to me. It seems like she is love with her. That woman is doing right by being a wife who respects her husband. Naw she can't hang out all night when her husband is at home. Single women will sometimes keep you single if u allow them
@@lynneeshadukes7289 I know that’s right
Ain’t nothing wrong with not wanting someone wit kids
Very true, so he should just leave and cut ties romantically. Can’t have it both ways
Karamo did them no favors today. He dont want her like that.
I love the way he held her leg and respectfully told hold on so he can finish talking he respects her though ❤
LMAO girl if you don't leave him. You canNOT force a man to change his feelings, EVER. He is not going to change and he already showed you who he is. It's not gonna last baby, let him go and find you a man with kids and have a happy blended family.
She has to see she is layover until he finds what he wants. 3 kids wooo.
Sometimes people need alone time to reflect on themselves and what they are or are not bringing to a relationship.
Preach Karamo!! Maybe that young man will see the error of his ways and change the course of his life!
HE DEFINITELY SAID HE DOESN'T WANT KIDS HE WANTS HIS OWN FAMILY SHE SHOULD MOVE ON
Don’t EVER let a man tell you that he doesn’t want you twice…. Stand up
He can’t help he was attracted to her but the fact she got kids is out of his control. You make grown decisions you face having to deal with what comes with that. Nobody’s perfect but certain stuff can be avoided.
Exactly that's her fault
He could've avoided this if he stayed true to himself and not have given this woman mixed signals. HE involved himself with her knowing she had children. HE involved himself in her children's life despite saying he "didn't wanna get with a woman who has kids." His words and his actions didn't match up, and YES he did lead her on. He admitted that emotion was involved, whether y'all want to admit it or not... by definition they were technically dating. He put himself in this situation as much as she put herself in it. Do not point fingers to one party!!!
I def understand him when he says he wants a woman with no kids .
Friends are beautiful but even ur your shadow will leave you in the dark, learn to let seasonal people go and watch the next seasons come and just maybe they’ll attach to the roots ❤💔❤️
“You think you led me on”.. the way she said that had ME stuck. When a woman has a hold on a man, she knows how to pull his strings.
He literally telling you he don't want you. Leave him alone
Sorry Karamo, but he isn't leading her on. He told her at the beginning, and all throughout their situationship, and again on your show, that he doesn't want a relationship with a woman who has kids. She's an adult, who made the adult decision to sleep with him and bring him into her children's lives anyways...for 2 years. I don't see it working out, because Karamo basically guilted him in to being her boyfriend.
Karamo always on point 💯💯👏👏
It’s her fault for sleeping with him when she KNOWS he doesn’t want to make it official. I’ve been there. Leave him alone
Do you guys not understand that, as men, we become fearful and paralyzed by situations from our past? I'm glad Karamo was able to help him decipher his feelings and allowed him to understand himself better. His saying he doesn't want a woman with kids is a fear response from an adverse past event. He was in a seven-year relationship with a woman who had children.
Personally I think he’s not over the ex🙄
He doesn't want to play step daddy to your kids
All this to be a girlfriend is wild
I dont think he would have asked her to be his girlfriend if u didnt want her. I think he was scared of building bonds with her kids. He clearly loves her
If he doesn’t want a woman with children and he gets all the way with her-HE WILL RESENT HER LATER.
I’m need her to pick her damn crown up right now because this ain’t it
The comments are really misleading just as much as this man. He definitely gives strong mixed signals and he is just stringing her along with all the actions of love and saying I love you and all that. Furthermore Trevor didn’t want to put a title on it for the very simple reason of not bearing any official responsibility by being able to leave whenever he feels like it or when things gets too much for him instead of being in a relationship where there are expectations and responsibilities that have to be put when the relationship is exclusive. Titles in relationships are very important because it gives us security and stability and even clarity in defining a relationship. Also if he didn’t want a woman with kids why get into this in the first place and start dating for a period of time? She only wanted to confront because he gives her mixed messages and she loves him.
He is the problem. Stop placing yourself into situations with women you don’t like or can’t fully commit to. A woman/man w/ children comes as a package. If that’s not what you want, keep it moving. He has every right to want what he wants. He needs to set himself on a path to go for exactly what he wants. As for her, there are plenty of men who love women with children with pure intentions and want exactly that! Patience sis. Also, never beg a man for a title. Women are to present and not pursue. Your king is coming. Keep working on yourself, taking care of those kids and living your life. It’ll all fall into place in due season.
She needs to get as far away from that lady as possible. She acts like a crazy, obsessed, ex boyfriend. It's been 10 years and she's still thinking about that girl.
the fact of the matter is if you were already dating her then why would you come out of nowhere & say “i don’t want anyone with kids” …why waste her time? then if a man isn’t willing to commit to you after two years then move on. you shouldn’t force anyone to be with you.