right -- all that i want you to hear is bull crap too - i want you to DO! be the adult and guidance that a child needs - how many generations came before and the children still starting from scratch?-- BULLSHIT
The middle child ❤ she is the one who will break the generational curse. Very articulate, and soft in how she express herself, making the changes to not be like her mother, and actually healing from that trauma. Kudos to her !
The only reason why Icelynn was getting interrupted EVERY SINGLE TIME SHE TALKED, was because her mother knew that the way she delivers herself is FAR more better than the mother herself. So she decided to cut Icelynn off so the audience and Karamo won’t have to hear what she says, knowing what she is going to say mostly is true.
The sad part is some mothers like her notice that characteristic and try to take their child's voice away starting at a very early age to feel more alpha especially if their parenting skills are being questioned by their own kid they see it as a challenge to defend their title and territory over them as a mother.
The middle child articulates and expresses herself so well and I believe the middle child is able to deliver her truth in a way that “it holds up a mirror “ and her mother keeps interrupting her because she doesn’t like the way her truth feels and what it forces her to see within herself.
@@sharonfranks4031 So you don't think as a child you'll be affected by having to see every sexual partner your mom has and then a different one on top of that?
@@bigdawg9826 as a child who controls mama? As a child what do you know about mama's issues really? but she still raised you to be strong, voice your opinions and puck you up if you don't have the mind to get the hell on out mama's house and leave mama's crazy azz alone so her sanity can come back you get what you get. But she loves ❤️ 😍 you and got your back
That daughter isn't healed. If she were that healed, she wouldn't have humiliated her mother on national TV by calling her promiscuous and telling the world she had 40 boyfriends! True love covers.
@@SuperShepard1 By the words of someone who clearly hasn't face trauma and what its like to recover from abuse and have been given everything in life with a gold medal.
That Icelynn... she stands out from ALL of them. She is the curse breaker. If you see this.... keep moving in the direction the Most High leads. ( It's not been in vain. ) Your family needs you to.
The mom is acting like she's their sister, calling them names and fighting with them. She needs to be the bigger person as the parent, and show them geuine love and respect.
@@laawaer7265 yeah I feel like parents like that deserve to be left to fend for themselves and to never waste time on them. They will never change. Hurt people hurt people, but don’t nobody care at this point.
The middle daughter mentioning boundaries is actually very helpful to me. Thanks for sharing that. Boundaries are really so important. Some family dynamics view boundaries as a disrespect or being inconsiderate and not helpful even though you may be drained or it's taking everything out of you.
Can’t stand that there’s almost a glorification of abusive mothers in the Black community. It’s seen as “strict taking no disrespect” etc. This mother looked proud so many times recalling what she did it was embarrassing to watch. And lady, no you’re not the reason Icelynn is mature and articulate - SHE did the work.
There’s definitely a general consensus among many Black people about this. On here the audience will even clap at times hearing about abuse but they consider it “discipline”. How do you not know this when it’s very common?
@JollyMolly Ramram What's sad is that many in that same audience would cringe if the children weren't black. I've noticed how the media spins the narrative dependent up on the race of the family. I know that doesn't apply here, but we as a community need to wise up.
The mother may try to talk over Icelynn because she is very intelligent and self aware. She’s jealous and knows Iceland will call her out on her actions so she has to over talk her.
I agree. The fact that she can articulately identify the mom’s issues, and then request accountability probably makes the mom feel judged, and deficient. Maybe in her daughter, she sees the emotional intelligence that she wishes she could have had at her age, but rather than celebrating and being proud of her daughter, she pushes back against anything that she says. I applaud the daughter for recognizing her triggers, and for choosing to protect her peace, rather than engaging her mom.
The middle daughter has the right idea. I love her train of thoughts. She’s breaking generational curses, and setting necessary boundaries. Her mother is intimidated by her, that’s why she wouldn’t let her speak. Icelynn you are amazing!
Yah my mom never remembered as I went through my career in dancing since 6 and still present day dancing.. calling me fat, disgusting, a pig, because I exercised so much and burned so many calories and would get hungrier then normal 🤣. Compare me to other girls and tell me I needed to look like them or be like them. Call me stupid, an idiot. Oh boy narcissist mothers.
The mother was abusive.Let's call a spade a spade. Nothing calls for beating your child in the shower...nothing. That was the mother unleashing her rage on them
@@jaygotgame8632 this is the narrative that must stop in black households. We took the whip from massa and unleashed it in the home, on children, and try to call assult “love”. Misquote Bible verses to justify what would be a charge in the real world. And do that to children. It's abuse. Call a thing a thing. Beat the community into submission and no we have now leadership.
I don’t know how parents expect their kids to be the most respectful people when they aren’t respectful themselves. The mother is irking me she had to talk over every single one of them, your daughters are just as disrespectful as you ma’am
What the middle child said hit me like a ton of bricks. I'm also very passive and permissive with my kids because of the way I was raised. I don't want them to feel the way I did but that too is not always good. There has to be a balance.
When I was young my dad whip us with 3switches and with our clothes off because that's what we needed but it's 5 of us 3 girls and 2 boys we never went to jail and was not disrespectful he didn't have to do all the time when I got older I told him thanks for the whipping he made me the person I am and I love my dad and mom . So girls get over it .
@@cassandraduncan-tx5xiwhat college did you go to? How long have you been married? What career do you have? We should want our kids to do more than just turn out ok, we should want them to be better than us and thrive, not just survive
@@cassandraduncan-tx5xi My brother and I also got spanked when we were growing up and I can definitely say we turned out great and both of us are very respectful law abiding citizens. Now of course it wasn’t whippings all of the time as they would still talk to us and give us warnings as well so there was always a balance. Now I don’t want people to get the wrong idea and think whippings and abuse are the same thing because they aren’t. There is nothing wrong with discipline as long as you aren’t name calling, punching, or kicking.
@@calebdouglas7622Whoopings are abuse. They are the same thing. You don't need to hit someone, especially a child who can't/won't defend themselves, to get your point across. There are plenty of people out who never got whoopings and turned out to be successful adults. I got whoopings as a kid, but that did not make me a better person. Because I was Whooped, which left mental/emotional scars, I now have to work on healing from that. Whoopings have no correlation to making someone a better person. There are other ways to discipline.
Icelyn, sounds so healed, yess sis. Same with me, i love my sister at a distance because being near her just reminds me of the abuse from childhood. Sibling abuse is real yalll
That first daughter reminded me SO MUCH of my sister - immature, refusing to take accountability, irresponsible, etc. How are you honestly upset that someone called the police on you when YOU DECIDED to 1) do something to get a warrant out for your arrest and 2) destroy thousands of dollars worth of that person’s property??? She’s annoying the hell out of me, but the fact that she acts so much like my sister is rly making it easier to accept that I’m not the only one dealing with a person like this in my family.
well if your sister is living the same life that girl is living i totally get it. That girl is angry. If we are to believe her sisters that mother is terribly abusive. Everyone reacts to abuse differently and this girl who has grown up being abused and watching her sisters be hurt too is clearly furious. We all want abuse victims to be weak and meek but the truth is a lot of abuse victims end up like that girl. Tbh that mother deserves it. Yeah she's impulsive but you can tell if she gets away from the situation she could learn to heal. If you notice she doesn't come at her sisters in that way..... just the person who hurt her and her sisters
As a mom I don't have a problem apologizing to my children even though they are grown. A lot of people have learned to identify with their abusers and I'm not just speaking on this situation. Some people do believe beating on people will make them a better person. But when these same people get into abusive relationships or become abusive, before you know it you have people identifying with their abusers. Some children have a violent approach when it comes to things and they are quite destructive because that is how they learned to communicate. I do pray they work it out.
Literally! I don’t understand the black community, they want respect and manners, without showin what it looks like… then get mad and want to beat they child Bc the child doesn’t know
11:50 HI, daughter of a narcissistic mother here:) BIG HINT: notice how the brother isn’t in the room, and it’s ONLY the daughters that have a bad relationship with the mother. mothers cherish the bond with their sons more than with their daughters.. that’s a BIG trait of narcissism…
She was a young mother, and she did not parent properly and that's exactly why kids shouldn't be having kids. Being abusive and promiscuous and putting boyfriends before her children had a huge impact on them and they are still hurting. There needs to be a lot of therapy, healing, and accountability. That is the only way I see her relationship with her daughters improving.
My mother is my BIGGEST trigger . I’ve been loving my mother from a distance for the past two months and I must say I’m at peace !! I’m creating boundaries myself and she’s mad asf about it
"Love you from a distance." Thank you. I won't feel bad like I'm doing something bad or something is wrong with me again. 🙏 Bless your familes. Your all beautiful souls.
I read the comments first, and y’all were correct about Icelynn!! I’m a middle child with two sisters. We all embody what these sisters embody. We all experienced a different version of our mother. But I was definitely the one who started the healing to be able to communicate and articulate to my mother where she hurt me, or where she dropped the ball. My older sister followed and my younger sister still has healing to do. They have very little to no communication whatsoever, she grew up fighting and arguing with my mom and definitely disrespected her on so many occasions. So the dynamics are very similar and I pray for healing with them.
Whew…this hit home. Growing up my two sisters and I felt our mom put men over us. Honestly, a part of us still feel this way with her current husband. Now that we are in our 30s, we’ve learned to accept it. I’m literally the calm middle child too. Therapy has helped my sisters. Girls need a mothers love - not with material items but emotionally and with time. I hope my daughters feel unconditionally loved. Sending healing energy to that family.
This mother is just like mine. As a black woman I can only speak from my own experience and I hate to see other women who look like me have the same stories generation after generation. It’s one of the reasons why I don’t desire to be a mother myself. Wishing everyone involved healing and restoration.
The fact that I must go through this with my own mother makes me feel for the middle child. I'm the oldest and I will say this shit is far more common than people realize. It is scary to see how the mother is so happy for what she did.
I understand. But I get where she BBC ok’ing from if I just told u what I was doing why u hitting me up then telling me u gonna put ur car out as stolen it’s extra af and bad as a parent. Like this aged black parents and grandparents wanna control everything the child does. So she probably felt mom making up another excuse she need the car just so I can’t go nowhere
@@4dyamondx745 it matters when they obviously made it clear she can use it her mom is power hungry bitch just like mine who fake sick just to make u not have any fun idk why it’s so hard for y’all to believe being a parent doesn’t give u the right to dismiss and be an asshole to ur children and they feeling. My mom literally does the same shot we agree I can use the car if I put gas in it but when she wanna be petty she’ll pull sick shot or just some dumb shit. Sorry I can’t understand that parents can be wrong at too
@@4dyamondx745it’s about respect 🤷🏽♂️ and how you say things. As you can see the mother don’t want to own up to what she did to them. Trauma cause you to act a certain way
@@4dyamondx745 That’s her car, but the daughter said that they usually use the car whenever they need it. That day the mom went off the rails so the daughter was like “wtf?” And respect goes both ways. You can tell the mother hasn’t respected her children a day in their lives.
I've seen several commenters mentioning that the mother is a single parent and did the best she could as if that excuses her abusive behavior. Single parenting doesnt have to equal abuse, emotional neglect, and toxicity. Unless I misunderstood, is there a son as well? I wonder what his experience has been.
This is a case of narcissistic Mothers in the black community. They think talking at their children , hitting them, and not allowing them to express themselves is okay, and then brings up what the Bible says when it goes both ways. Don’t provoke the child and then play victim. The daughters just have had built up anger and it unleashed.
Ughh me and my mom have our ups and downs a lot, she hates how I always have this attitude towards her when in reality I just can't stand the things she does, the things that she says when she is mad, and how she doesn't want to acknowledge people's feelings. I'm in my damn 20's and still struggles to communicate thoroughly and say the right pronunciations all because of how I was treated growing up, being put into tough situations that no child needs to go through with sick adults, missed out on a lot of fun childhoods just to make sure that my little siblings and the household is well taken care off. It's a lot to unpack but I just want to leave it all behind it's exhausting and I want to leave it all behind and not to look back.
My mom and I had a very turbulent relationship and now that im a mom i understand. She was dealing with grief on top of everything else. My mom took accountability and apologies for where she fell short and even if she doesn’t remember everything she never calls me a lie and acknowledges how I feel. She did the best she could and far better than what she knew. They have the potential to heal beautifully if they all do the work
He is my new favorite talk person, mostly because he’s one of the realest men I’ve seen so this. So sophisticated, funny, REAL, like he better not go anywhere
@@Caramel1109so I see you’re the type that would let your kids run all over you. Last time I checked if your kids are grown ass adults they should be able to face real life consequences.
@@Caramel1109 And that's why black teens do not respect their parents, grandparents, their elders, or the church today. Because of parents like you! You coddle your teens, and allow them to disrespect you and get away with all that they do. That young girl was way too disrespectful to her mother on stage. Generation Alpha and Generation Z ARE THE WORST Generations out of all 7 of them. I wonder which generation you're from. You're probably from Generation Millennial, because we all know the people who were born within the first 4 Generations have always shown respect to their parents, grandparents, and elders. SMDH!
This reminds me so much of my family dynamic back in the day. I wish as a black community, we could change a lot of the ways that we interact with our kids and break those generational issues. Its like a lot of black parents have kids and resent having them and then it shows in how some of us are raised. Its a sad cycle
Wow the middle sister did that! Very well spoken and set boundaries respectfully. She handled her emotions beautifully, I wish to have that much poise as I continue to grow.
It’s crazy to hear this… my mom was a lot like this mom. Those beatings were brutal. I know there were good times too… but the ptsd is real and I wish I could just get over it so we can have a better relationship for time we have left together. Somehow I gotta accept she will never communicate well. Somehow 😢
Icelynn...pertaining to her, that therapy/counseling has worked wonders for her and it shows. Keep up the good work!! That mother has a lot of work to do. If she wants her girls back as she stated, she's gonna have to have a Come to Jesus meeting and admit her faults and take ACCOUNTABILITY!!!!
There’s so much that went on, I just pray they each find the peace they need. It may be apart. The mom doesn’t want to listen to Iceland bc it’s too much truth for Mama. She can’t take it. Sadly smh
Only 5 minutes in and I am so thankful for my mother and the sisters I have! What children have to do is understand that their parents are HUMAN. They have flaws, they sin, they are not perfect. We as people put so many expectations on folks just because of their title. A mom, dad, sister, pastor, doctor, and so on does this and not that! No we are humans and all deserving of understanding.
Exactly, parents are human That means they need to take accountability as well, thats not an extreme expectation, asking an adult to acknowledge the pain of and apologize to their kids.
They might be human but the day you sign up to be a parent you should at least try to do your best for your kids. Don’t expect sympathy when you signed up to do this job, they never asked to be here.
@@sicilysscenarios365 so because I am a parent I don’t deserve sympathy and understanding? Who said she didn’t try when she clearly allowed her grown child to live there, spoils her, allowed her to drive her car, takes the abuse she spews and still reached out for help. No one is perfect and there is no blueprint to being a parent. So children can forgive a horrible cheating ass man, ain’t shit as friend, Pervy boss, or trick in the street- but they can’t forgive their momma. Na that don’t make sense to me.
@@material-cheshirekhatter2413 did you mean to reply to someone else. I never said anything about a parent shouldn’t listen and take accountability. I actually heard the mother do that. But you can clearly see that there is a severe fracture in the way they communicate. It can not all just been attacking and pointing the finger! Her daughters didn’t come on there to take accountability also, they came to point out what she did wrong as a mother. How can you expect anyone to give you a heartfelt apology and listen when you are disrespectful. It won’t work. Not a parent, boss, or a bum in the street. Communication is not just stating your opinion it also includes active listening, mindfulness and open minded people who are looking to resolve issues. Look I held so much resentment towards my dad for not being there. I used to watch him on tv and at high powered events protecting some of the most famous ppl in the world. I used to think how can he care about them but not me his daughter. It took for me to go through life, F up a few times and need forgiveness from others, and have a child myself before I could forgive him. I realized that I had to meet him where he was and accept it or walk away. I wanted this box office movie apology and I wanted him to change everything I didn’t like. But that is not possible. So once I let go of the hate and the need to be validated by him it was easy. Her daughters pain is real and their own. There is nothing the mom can do or say to alleviate that. Whenever it happens it will be because they decided to release it.
@@Itzyhani I said don’t expect and I’m referring to this situation in particular because the mother is obviously a narcissist that feeds off the fact she did the job she signed up for. I can’t believe you are defending this sorry ass excuse of a parent but hey you might be just as bad so let me me not speak
Icelynn is BEAUTIFUL and any therapy she did is working ! Boundaries are extremely important with toxic parents. You have to love them from a distance or else you’ll drive yourself crazy. A lot of our parents think they did their best because that’s the only thing they knew but I don’t think they understand that sometimes their best isn’t good enough.
Karmo jus know if I EVER see you I'm hugging you and I normally DO NOT get in folks space, but you are jus a joy! your listening skills are kinda frightening (that's my own trauma) but to be heard. You definitely hear well, Keep up the amazing work! UP Top ✋
That was so difficult to watch! While not my experience, I know SO many woman that have lived this life and still struggle as adults w/children of their own - some repeating the cycle. Praying for healing for this family!
The mom may need to get another therapist..because whoever she been seeing doesn't have her take accountability..maybe he /she is a yes therapist 🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
The middle daughter is 100%. She avoids accountability and over talks them to stop them from telling her the TRUTH about herself. The baby is outright disrespectful. Period. Her attitude is out of control. If all 3 of your daughters consider you problematic, you should stfu and reassess the type of mother and PERSON you are.
Anyone else see how the kids that were beaten and mistreated are more respectful than the one that wasn't? The youngest admits she was spoiled compared to the other two yet she came out nasty af. She didn't experience the trauma her sisters did... she was just mad that her mother gave her a boundary and a consequence.
That young one needed a whipping! Being a parent is hard and finding the balance is hard. Lack of discipline is what has caused our youth to be so disrespectful! Now with whippings I believe you also have to provide positive feedback and guidance in order to balance the discipline.
"My parents beat me as a child and I am not traumatized," said the man whose ex-partner reported him for physical violence. "When I was a child they left me crying alone until I fell asleep and it was so bad I did not go out," said the man who spends long hours in social networks, affecting his sleep. "They punished me as a child and I'm fine," said the man who, every time he makes a mistake, says to himself words of contempt, as a form of self-punishment. "As a child, they put a heavy hand on me and I suffer from a trauma called 'education'," said the woman who still does not understand why all of her partners end up being aggressive. "When I became capricious as a child, my father locked me in a room alone to learn and today I appreciate it," said the woman who has suffered anxiety attacks and can not explain why she is so afraid of being locked in small spaces . "My parents told me they were going to leave me alone or give me to a stranger when I did my tantrums and I do not have traumas," said the woman who has prayed for love and has forgiven repeated infidelities so as not to feel abandoned "My parents controlled me with just the look and see how well I came out," said the woman who can not maintain eye contact with figures of 'authority' without feeling intimidated. "As a child, I got even with the iron cable and today I am a good man, even professional," said the man his neighbors have accused the police for drunk hitting objects and yelling at his wife. "My parents forced me to study a career that would make me money, and see how well off I am," said the man who dreams of Friday every day because he is desperate in his work doing something every day that is not what he always wanted. "When I was little they forced me to sit down until all the food was finished and they even force fed me, not like those permissive parents" affirmed the woman who does not understand why she could not have a healthy relationship with food and in her adolescence came to develop an eating disorder. "My mother taught me to respect her good chancletazos to the point," said the woman who smokes 5 cigarettes a day to control her anxiety. "I thank my mom and my dad for every blow and every punishment, because, if not, who knows what would happen to me," said the man who has never been able to have a healthy relationship, and whose son constantly lies to him because he has fear. And so we go through life, listening to people claiming to be good people without trauma, but paradoxically, in a society full of violence and wounded people.
I guess when your a child growing up in a toxic household where your own worst enemies is the world AND YOUR PARENTS you feel like you need to push your true self down and match their energy for a little while, just until you get out of it. Unfortunately by the Time you do, you don’t realize you might’ve been infected by the bad environment.
Yea her attitude is a no go, she should e been addressed! No need to disrespect your mom like that on tv especially when she was in the wrong.. that was her moms car
Wasn’t their mom like super shity to like-all of them in different ways. Like what are y’all expecting. Do you treat everyone close to you(family or not) like crap their whole life because you feel entitled to and still expect them to be good to you after!?!?🤦🏾♀️
@@mesmerio-0 there's a level of respect you have for your elders especially your mom. You can get your point across as the "child" without the hostility or just walk away. There should never be a point where you want to fight your parents. Trust me on this. I've been through a lot growing up and I have 10 kids all with different feelings and or attitudes and not one has ever approached me like they lost their mind.
@@chandralafayewalker-smith6104There is a balance. If your child is being reasonable, you don’t beat that out of them. When your child is being unreasonable, use every tool on God’s green earth to make sure you’re not ‘sparing the rod and spoiling the child.’ If your child is engaging in behaviour that will get them arrested, then you beat them to deter them getting in trouble with the law. That’s reasonable. If your child has taken the family car with a perfectly reasonable explanation for why she thought it would be okay (such as you were camped in bed, late at night, watching a movie with your fiancé, and looked like you had no intention of moving/using the car - all of which the mother affirmed) then it would be wrong to punish the child. Instead, to deal with your irritation instruct your adult child to bring that vehicle home as soon as they can manage, and once home calmly explain that ‘it causes me to resent you when you use the car for anything other than work. I need that vehicle to last, and you running off with it won’t make my vehicle last, especially when it’s night time and your chances of getting into an accident-we-can’t-afford increase.’ Once that boundary is set and your child knows it exists, it is reasonable to get angry should your kid decide to violate it.
What’s the worst, is Big sis came out and immediately got ignored and accepted it. Didn’t even get to finish her story. But the way these women are, reminds me of my relationship with my sisters and mother. My oldest sis was the second mom to an overwhelmed adult who was suppose to raise her too, she learned how to not piss my mother off and help out and had to grow up way too fast. She’s also the most distant from my mom, from having to go through the most AND first. My middle sister is def the black sheep, and since 18-21 I started to understand some of her anger and isolation/feeling isolated. My middle sister always alleged that my mom and her had issues, with the men she’d feel like she chose over her, in one instance my mom named a specific marriage, that she feels like my middle sister ruined. My middle sister looks at my big sister as more of a motherly figure, learned and still in my opinion tries to mimic my big sisters life (my big sis moved away as soon as she could, started businesses and is super successful with very limited time around my mother, also still my mother’s favorite). And my middle and big sis had a love hate relationship for a long while, because our big sister/mom confused what our dynamics were supposed to be, in my middle sister’s mind. Then there is me, the youngest. Most violate, outspoken, spoiled by sisters who love me and wanted to protect me from my mother, teach me, and guide me. Sympathetic to how hard I’ve come to understand my sisters have been treated/what they had to go through (and not even all the time, early twenties recent). I had basically picked a side as well, obvi my sisters, and any neglect or emotional damage or trauma I experienced from my mother was personal in a real way to me, and my responses were two fold, because I saw both ways she handled being a mother, and felt like I’d refuse being my sisters and taking her mess, the way that they did. And I was spoiled by my mother because I am the “baby”, and was my mothers final chance at getting sh*t “right” with her kids. Old habits do die hard😂 But it’s just interesting because I always compare mother and 3 daughter specific dynamics, and it usually always stacks up like this. My bad I originally wanted to give the oldest sister her flowers, because literally no one noticed that with her on stage. But here we are 😅
Unfortunately I can understand the mom. Hurt people will hurt more people and sadly it was the children who got hurt. It's a ripple effect. This mom has been thru a lot of abuse herself as a child and could not recognize the pain she put the kids thru. She was acting out of her own pain. Sad that the girls had to suffer the brunt thereof.
I just want to say why when adult children are disrespectful people find reasons to justify it? If your parent is abusive or just too much cut them off. My mom is toxic and I’ve never EVER cursed her out I know how to deal with her. I’d rather distance myself before cursing her. How you live with your mom and feel that she owes you something as a grown woman.
Respect is respect. Parent or indifferent. Negative behavior gets enabled because of this thinking. Some of our parents are toxic and need to be cussed tf out
Absolutely, that is sometimes when they realize that you are just not going to take it anymore. Bringing me into this world does not give you the right to abuse me on any level.
I think its very important to acknowledge that If a child/teenager holds that much anger towards their parents, something is wrong, and that it can come from the parents and what they have done. A person that is that angry and disrespectful is that for a reason, I have been that myself, NOT as much as the girl in this video, but that can be resentment towards the parents and grief most of the time. This doesn’t mean that it’s okay at all, but it’s important to understand. I hope they all heal🙏🏾🙏🏾
This remind me so much of me and my sisters but with my dad. My middle sister cut us off, I’m the youngest still dealing with my dad but becoming desensitized and numb to it, my oldest sister recognizes how our dad is and created boundaries. I just wish me and my sisters could sit down together and have a conversation about our experiences so we can at least be there for each other.
The parents always also go after the kid that forced them to realize the messed up traits about themselves. I was the scapegoat so ik first hand how it goes.
Accountability does not mean apologizing. It means understanding the problem and working to have a better solution
Oh how they “don’t understand” that
Wow, never saw it like that. Thank you for upgrading me
People don’t understand that. People use the word accountability as an attack and try to force people to be continuously in a negative light.
And admitting your mistakes
right -- all that i want you to hear is bull crap too - i want you to DO! be the adult and guidance that a child needs - how many generations came before and the children still starting from scratch?-- BULLSHIT
The middle child ❤ she is the one who will break the generational curse. Very articulate, and soft in how she express herself, making the changes to not be like her mother, and actually healing from that trauma. Kudos to her !
She is NOT articulate. She is also NOT soft spoken. She is very contentious
@@AkireMaru you must be like the mother ...hmmmmm
I 100% agree with you, amazing woman doing the best for herself ❤
She sees a difference in her that's why she bumps heads with her the most.
She is gorgeous
The only reason why Icelynn was getting interrupted EVERY SINGLE TIME SHE TALKED, was because her mother knew that the way she delivers herself is FAR more better than the mother herself. So she decided to cut Icelynn off so the audience and Karamo won’t have to hear what she says, knowing what she is going to say mostly is true.
Yuppp!! Thats how my mom was with me.
A strategy to make chaos and deflect from the crisis at hand 🖐️
The sad part is some mothers like her notice that characteristic and try to take their child's voice away starting at a very early age to feel more alpha especially if their parenting skills are being questioned by their own kid they see it as a challenge to defend their title and territory over them as a mother.
That's true. That's what manipulative people do
Narcissists always try to shut off the truth tellers
The middle child articulates and expresses herself so well and I believe the middle child is able to deliver her truth in a way that “it holds up a mirror “ and her mother keeps interrupting her because she doesn’t like the way her truth feels and what it forces her to see within herself.
DANM, you worded and expressed exactly what I was thinking but I didn’t know how to put it into words 😅😂
right on the money
You said this perfectly!
Icelynn is breaking the generational curse, so proud of all the young ladies
But mom's sex life is none of her business, besides that how she got here.
How is she breaking the generation curse, she has children out of wedlock, probably more than one dad.
@@sharonfranks4031 So you don't think as a child you'll be affected by having to see every sexual partner your mom has and then a different one on top of that?
@@bigdawg9826 as a child who controls mama? As a child what do you know about mama's issues really? but she still raised you to be strong, voice your opinions and puck you up if you don't have the mind to get the hell on out mama's house and leave mama's crazy azz alone so her sanity can come back you get what you get. But she loves ❤️ 😍 you and got your back
@@sharonfranks4031 yes it is when you growing up with men coming and out the house, especially with daughters in the house
It’s like she doesn’t like the most healed and articulate daughter.
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That daughter isn't healed. If she were that healed, she wouldn't have humiliated her mother on national TV by calling her promiscuous and telling the world she had 40 boyfriends! True love covers.
It’s because she knows she’s in a path to become a better women then she ever was she jealous of her own child trust me ik!
@@SuperShepard1 she’s healed enough she could’ve said much worse !
@@SuperShepard1 By the words of someone who clearly hasn't face trauma and what its like to recover from abuse and have been given everything in life with a gold medal.
Icelynn is soooo beautiful, inside & out! the way she carries herself & creates boundaries to protect her peace is impressive. 😍🥺
Icelynn will be the one to be done with the Mom.
That Icelynn... she stands out from ALL of them. She is the curse breaker. If you see this.... keep moving in the direction the Most High leads. ( It's not been in vain. ) Your family needs you to.
We all stand out and none of us is like are mother thank you but you don’t know no us personally. We are all well off on life. Thax
I was able to see this! God will forever get the Glory out of all of my trials and tribulations!! I appreciate this more then you know!
@@amabarrbrown3585 Sending Hug's ✨🙏🏿
Icelynn got issues. The mom was a child when she had them. She is not perfect. And has work to do.
TOO, ICELYNN pretty much did the same thing as her mom, children out of wedlock, more than one daddy.
The mom is acting like she's their sister, calling them names and fighting with them. She needs to be the bigger person as the parent, and show them geuine love and respect.
The way I see it is that you can't give what you don't have !
@@laawaer7265 So if she knew she couldn't give them proper love and respect, then why keep having more children?
@@laawaer7265 yeah I feel like parents like that deserve to be left to fend for themselves and to never waste time on them. They will never change. Hurt people hurt people, but don’t nobody care at this point.
Especially the youngest one
@@jyadidtnova1051 cus they don't care , they don't see they're in the wrong with how they behave . it could be the mom is a product of her environment
Icelynn proved herself. My God what a strong and independent woman. Sticking up for herself but not degrading others like her mother does. BRAVO! 👏🏽 🎉
The middle daughter mentioning boundaries is actually very helpful to me. Thanks for sharing that. Boundaries are really so important. Some family dynamics view boundaries as a disrespect or being inconsiderate and not helpful even though you may be drained or it's taking everything out of you.
Can’t stand that there’s almost a glorification of abusive mothers in the Black community. It’s seen as “strict taking no disrespect” etc. This mother looked proud so many times recalling what she did it was embarrassing to watch. And lady, no you’re not the reason Icelynn is mature and articulate - SHE did the work.
Who do you see glorifying this? Y'all say anything.
There’s definitely a general consensus among many Black people about this. On here the audience will even clap at times hearing about abuse but they consider it “discipline”. How do you not know this when it’s very common?
@JollyMolly Ramram What's sad is that many in that same audience would cringe if the children weren't black. I've noticed how the media spins the narrative dependent up on the race of the family. I know that doesn't apply here, but we as a community need to wise up.
Ironically the so called traumatized whoooings. The most disrespectful child did not get. Y’all killing me with whooopings are traumatizing
@Nurse_ Shelley - You’re right about that.
The daughter with the braids is very beautiful 😍 love her face structure
The middle daughter really is almost model like
What does her looks have to do with ANY of this? You people focus on the wrong things, the point was sorely missed here.
@@4dyamondx745 OK
@@4dyamondx745 what you gotta do with this conversation? girl shut up we can say somebody pretty fool..
@@4dyamondx745 exactly! Beauty did not stop her abuser!
The mother may try to talk over Icelynn because she is very intelligent and self aware. She’s jealous and knows Iceland will call her out on her actions so she has to over talk her.
Jealous???
@@SoleahWright 🤷🏿♀️
I agree. The fact that she can articulately identify the mom’s issues, and then request accountability probably makes the mom feel judged, and deficient. Maybe in her daughter, she sees the emotional intelligence that she wishes she could have had at her age, but rather than celebrating and being proud of her daughter, she pushes back against anything that she says. I applaud the daughter for recognizing her triggers, and for choosing to protect her peace, rather than engaging her mom.
And, she did it with all respect. As she said I have to love my mom from a distance. Iceland’s boundaries are set! I love a healthy minded person.
JEALOUSY? Of what?
It’s always us middle kids that gets disrespected the worst by our parents.
Facts.
FACTS
Very true 😢
facts
Nahhh my middle sibling was the Golden child
The middle daughter has the right idea. I love her train of thoughts. She’s breaking generational curses, and setting necessary boundaries. Her mother is intimidated by her, that’s why she wouldn’t let her speak. Icelynn you are amazing!
Mothers never remember what they do🙄
THATS GASLIGHTING AND MANIPULATIONS -THIS MOTHER IS A CLASSIC NARC! THEY NEED TO ALL GET DISTANCE FROM HER..
Yah my mom never remembered as I went through my career in dancing since 6 and still present day dancing.. calling me fat, disgusting, a pig, because I exercised so much and burned so many calories and would get hungrier then normal 🤣. Compare me to other girls and tell me I needed to look like them or be like them. Call me stupid, an idiot. Oh boy narcissist mothers.
At all 😂
Or fathers
Or fathers 😒
The mother was abusive.Let's call a spade a spade. Nothing calls for beating your child in the shower...nothing. That was the mother unleashing her rage on them
Umm y’all ain’t grow up in a real black house hold😂 them whoopings come wit discipline and an understanding also with respect
@@jaygotgame8632 facts
@@jaygotgame8632 being black has nothing to do with it, abuse is abuse, no "respect" or "love" behind it
No Abuse is Abuse.
@@jaygotgame8632 this is the narrative that must stop in black households. We took the whip from massa and unleashed it in the home, on children, and try to call assult “love”. Misquote Bible verses to justify what would be a charge in the real world. And do that to children. It's abuse. Call a thing a thing. Beat the community into submission and no we have now leadership.
Icelynn shines babyyy! I wish her the best in life. The more boundaries the better for her.
I don’t know how parents expect their kids to be the most respectful people when they aren’t respectful themselves. The mother is irking me she had to talk over every single one of them, your daughters are just as disrespectful as you ma’am
I always tell my mom that I will respect my little kids because how will they learn respect if not.
Iceland the middle child, God bless you sug!! We see you and your counseling is working keep doing it! Up top +they need you!
What the middle child said hit me like a ton of bricks. I'm also very passive and permissive with my kids because of the way I was raised. I don't want them to feel the way I did but that too is not always good. There has to be a balance.
When I was young my dad whip us with 3switches and with our clothes off because that's what we needed but it's 5 of us 3 girls and 2 boys we never went to jail and was not disrespectful he didn't have to do all the time when I got older I told him thanks for the whipping he made me the person I am and I love my dad and mom . So girls get over it .
@@cassandraduncan-tx5xiwhat college did you go to? How long have you been married? What career do you have? We should want our kids to do more than just turn out ok, we should want them to be better than us and thrive, not just survive
@@cassandraduncan-tx5xi My brother and I also got spanked when we were growing up and I can definitely say we turned out great and both of us are very respectful law abiding citizens. Now of course it wasn’t whippings all of the time as they would still talk to us and give us warnings as well so there was always a balance. Now I don’t want people to get the wrong idea and think whippings and abuse are the same thing because they aren’t. There is nothing wrong with discipline as long as you aren’t name calling, punching, or kicking.
@@cassandraduncan-tx5xiYou're a victim and gaslighting yourself.
@@calebdouglas7622Whoopings are abuse. They are the same thing. You don't need to hit someone, especially a child who can't/won't defend themselves, to get your point across. There are plenty of people out who never got whoopings and turned out to be successful adults.
I got whoopings as a kid, but that did not make me a better person. Because I was Whooped, which left mental/emotional scars, I now have to work on healing from that. Whoopings have no correlation to making someone a better person. There are other ways to discipline.
Icelyn, sounds so healed, yess sis. Same with me, i love my sister at a distance because being near her just reminds me of the abuse from childhood. Sibling abuse is real yalll
It really is.
I love when the mothers apologize from the heart, she's a broken person too
The daughter in the middle is so gorgeous 😊
Intelligent and well-spoken too!
And intelligent too😊
Yes indeed she is. 😍
That middle child is us breaking down barriers and generational trauma in our families
These parents got to accept accountability and how they actually impact their kids. Own up you contributing to their mental health.
They’d rather die first than do that.
@@antonivi8968 facts
That first daughter reminded me SO MUCH of my sister - immature, refusing to take accountability, irresponsible, etc. How are you honestly upset that someone called the police on you when YOU DECIDED to 1) do something to get a warrant out for your arrest and 2) destroy thousands of dollars worth of that person’s property??? She’s annoying the hell out of me, but the fact that she acts so much like my sister is rly making it easier to accept that I’m not the only one dealing with a person like this in my family.
You mean the youngest daughter?!
@@MarieeeeeE22no she meant the first daughter to come out on stage.
@@mekhiachandler1927 oh ok, thank you!!!
The first daughter that came out is the youngest one
well if your sister is living the same life that girl is living i totally get it. That girl is angry. If we are to believe her sisters that mother is terribly abusive. Everyone reacts to abuse differently and this girl who has grown up being abused and watching her sisters be hurt too is clearly furious. We all want abuse victims to be weak and meek but the truth is a lot of abuse victims end up like that girl. Tbh that mother deserves it. Yeah she's impulsive but you can tell if she gets away from the situation she could learn to heal. If you notice she doesn't come at her sisters in that way..... just the person who hurt her and her sisters
As a mom I don't have a problem apologizing to my children even though they are grown. A lot of people have learned to identify with their abusers and I'm not just speaking on this situation.
Some people do believe beating on people will make them a better person. But when these same people get into abusive relationships or become abusive, before you know it you have people identifying with their abusers.
Some children have a violent approach when it comes to things and they are quite destructive because that is how they learned to communicate. I do pray they work it out.
Literally! I don’t understand the black community, they want respect and manners, without showin what it looks like… then get mad and want to beat they child Bc the child doesn’t know
Your right
@@takeishawhite4964 ♥ 🙏
Literally ‼️
Right on point. And then they be surprised when the child fights back.
11:50 HI, daughter of a narcissistic mother here:) BIG HINT: notice how the brother isn’t in the room, and it’s ONLY the daughters that have a bad relationship with the mother. mothers cherish the bond with their sons more than with their daughters.. that’s a BIG trait of narcissism…
She was a young mother, and she did not parent properly and that's exactly why kids shouldn't be having kids. Being abusive and promiscuous and putting boyfriends before her children had a huge impact on them and they are still hurting. There needs to be a lot of therapy, healing, and accountability. That is the only way I see her relationship with her daughters improving.
My mother is my BIGGEST trigger . I’ve been loving my mother from a distance for the past two months and I must say I’m at peace !! I’m creating boundaries myself and she’s mad asf about it
"Love you from a distance."
Thank you. I won't feel bad like I'm doing something bad or something is wrong with me again. 🙏
Bless your familes.
Your all beautiful souls.
I really hope they heal and come together . Wish it was longer tho.
The second sister said her past but didn’t keep saying it she actually did stuff to help her
Iceland is not lying on her mother.
I read the comments first, and y’all were correct about Icelynn!! I’m a middle child with two sisters. We all embody what these sisters embody. We all experienced a different version of our mother. But I was definitely the one who started the healing to be able to communicate and articulate to my mother where she hurt me, or where she dropped the ball. My older sister followed and my younger sister still has healing to do. They have very little to no communication whatsoever, she grew up fighting and arguing with my mom and definitely disrespected her on so many occasions. So the dynamics are very similar and I pray for healing with them.
The middle child always gets the short end of the stick (even with great parents), but they always seem to come out best
So true I’m a middle child and I can attest to that.
I agree
As a middle child myself, I totally get this
Whew…this hit home. Growing up my two sisters and I felt our mom put men over us. Honestly, a part of us still feel this way with her current husband. Now that we are in our 30s, we’ve learned to accept it. I’m literally the calm middle child too. Therapy has helped my sisters. Girls need a mothers love - not with material items but emotionally and with time. I hope my daughters feel unconditionally loved. Sending healing energy to that family.
This mother is just like mine. As a black woman I can only speak from my own experience and I hate to see other women who look like me have the same stories generation after generation. It’s one of the reasons why I don’t desire to be a mother myself. Wishing everyone involved healing and restoration.
It really irritates me when these parents act like they can't understand why their kids hate them. Delusional af
My moma trigger me too. I thought I healed from her past mistakes but she still does things and I’m now in my late 20’s
Therapy is the only way to truly heal from that trauma
The fact that I must go through this with my own mother makes me feel for the middle child. I'm the oldest and I will say this shit is far more common than people realize. It is scary to see how the mother is so happy for what she did.
Karamo is a good listener and gives good feedback but he look like he going through something too. It’s in his eyes..
@Miss J I see it too
Yup. Well he's gay, he's going through a lot as a beautiful gay black man
Yup. Well he's gay, he's going through a lot as a beautiful gay black man
That lil one sorry today. Mama gonna get cussed out again SOON!!😂😂😂😂
Icelynn have the most beautiful spirit ❤ I pray that you guys can find happiness together if not it’s ok to love people from a distance.
The mother is gaslighting her daughters to death glad her daughters have each others back
Icelynn you rock! Continue to work on you and protect your peace.
Mother over talks because the truth hurts
The young girl needs to take accountability. You’re borrowing your mother’s car so bring it back no matter the reason
I understand. But I get where she BBC ok’ing from if I just told u what I was doing why u hitting me up then telling me u gonna put ur car out as stolen it’s extra af and bad as a parent. Like this aged black parents and grandparents wanna control everything the child does. So she probably felt mom making up another excuse she need the car just so I can’t go nowhere
@@Caramel1109 it does not matter what the mom reasons were, IT WAS THE MOM CAR, that is what's wrong with you people?
@@4dyamondx745 it matters when they obviously made it clear she can use it her mom is power hungry bitch just like mine who fake sick just to make u not have any fun idk why it’s so hard for y’all to believe being a parent doesn’t give u the right to dismiss and be an asshole to ur children and they feeling. My mom literally does the same shot we agree I can use the car if I put gas in it but when she wanna be petty she’ll pull sick shot or just some dumb shit. Sorry I can’t understand that parents can be wrong at too
@@4dyamondx745it’s about respect 🤷🏽♂️ and how you say things. As you can see the mother don’t want to own up to what she did to them. Trauma cause you to act a certain way
@@4dyamondx745 That’s her car, but the daughter said that they usually use the car whenever they need it. That day the mom went off the rails so the daughter was like “wtf?” And respect goes both ways. You can tell the mother hasn’t respected her children a day in their lives.
I've seen several commenters mentioning that the mother is a single parent and did the best she could as if that excuses her abusive behavior. Single parenting doesnt have to equal abuse, emotional neglect, and toxicity. Unless I misunderstood, is there a son as well? I wonder what his experience has been.
Yes💜💜💜
This is a case of narcissistic Mothers in the black community. They think talking at their children , hitting them, and not allowing them to express themselves is okay, and then brings up what the Bible says when it goes both ways. Don’t provoke the child and then play victim. The daughters just have had built up anger and it unleashed.
Ughh me and my mom have our ups and downs a lot, she hates how I always have this attitude towards her when in reality I just can't stand the things she does, the things that she says when she is mad, and how she doesn't want to acknowledge people's feelings. I'm in my damn 20's and still struggles to communicate thoroughly and say the right pronunciations all because of how I was treated growing up, being put into tough situations that no child needs to go through with sick adults, missed out on a lot of fun childhoods just to make sure that my little siblings and the household is well taken care off. It's a lot to unpack but I just want to leave it all behind it's exhausting and I want to leave it all behind and not to look back.
My mom and I had a very turbulent relationship and now that im a mom i understand. She was dealing with grief on top of everything else. My mom took accountability and apologies for where she fell short and even if she doesn’t remember everything she never calls me a lie and acknowledges how I feel. She did the best she could and far better than what she knew. They have the potential to heal beautifully if they all do the work
He is my new favorite talk person, mostly because he’s one of the realest men I’ve seen so this. So sophisticated, funny, REAL, like he better not go anywhere
This video made me cry and helped me heal from some pains I have with my own experiences
If you don’t want to go to jail, don’t commit a crime while on probation. 🤷🏽♀️
As a parent idc wat u DID but I’m not gonna put my BLACK CHILD in a life or death situation by calling cops on them. Plain and simple
@@Caramel1109 and she isn’t you. 🤷🏽♀️
@@Caramel1109so I see you’re the type that would let your kids run all over you. Last time I checked if your kids are grown ass adults they should be able to face real life consequences.
@@Caramel1109 FACTS!
@@Caramel1109 And that's why black teens do not respect their parents, grandparents, their elders, or the church today. Because of parents like you! You coddle your teens, and allow them to disrespect you and get away with all that they do. That young girl was way too disrespectful to her mother on stage. Generation Alpha and Generation Z ARE THE WORST Generations out of all 7 of them. I wonder which generation you're from. You're probably from Generation Millennial, because we all know the people who were born within the first 4 Generations have always shown respect to their parents, grandparents, and elders. SMDH!
The middle child is so beautiful 😍😍😍😍
This reminds me so much of my family dynamic back in the day. I wish as a black community, we could change a lot of the ways that we interact with our kids and break those generational issues. Its like a lot of black parents have kids and resent having them and then it shows in how some of us are raised. Its a sad cycle
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Yes . Most of them were not ready for kids.
Wow the middle sister did that! Very well spoken and set boundaries respectfully. She handled her emotions beautifully, I wish to have that much poise as I continue to grow.
Theres definitely love here. Praying they mend their relationships 🙏🏽
It’s crazy to hear this… my mom was a lot like this mom. Those beatings were brutal. I know there were good times too… but the ptsd is real and I wish I could just get over it so we can have a better relationship for time we have left together. Somehow I gotta accept she will never communicate well. Somehow 😢
the middle daughter is beautiful. shes graceful poised ladylike i bet she smart tooo.
Icelynn...pertaining to her, that therapy/counseling has worked wonders for her and it shows. Keep up the good work!! That mother has a lot of work to do. If she wants her girls back as she stated, she's gonna have to have a Come to Jesus meeting and admit her faults and take ACCOUNTABILITY!!!!
There’s so much that went on, I just pray they each find the peace they need. It may be apart. The mom doesn’t want to listen to Iceland bc it’s too much truth for Mama. She can’t take it. Sadly smh
Only 5 minutes in and I am so thankful for my mother and the sisters I have!
What children have to do is understand that their parents are HUMAN. They have flaws, they sin, they are not perfect. We as people put so many expectations on folks just because of their title. A mom, dad, sister, pastor, doctor, and so on does this and not that! No we are humans and all deserving of understanding.
Exactly, parents are human
That means they need to take accountability as well, thats not an extreme expectation, asking an adult to acknowledge the pain of and apologize to their kids.
They might be human but the day you sign up to be a parent you should at least try to do your best for your kids. Don’t expect sympathy when you signed up to do this job, they never asked to be here.
@@sicilysscenarios365 so because I am a parent I don’t deserve sympathy and understanding?
Who said she didn’t try when she clearly allowed her grown child to live there, spoils her, allowed her to drive her car, takes the abuse she spews and still reached out for help.
No one is perfect and there is no blueprint to being a parent.
So children can forgive a horrible cheating ass man, ain’t shit as friend, Pervy boss, or trick in the street- but they can’t forgive their momma.
Na that don’t make sense to me.
@@material-cheshirekhatter2413 did you mean to reply to someone else. I never said anything about a parent shouldn’t listen and take accountability. I actually heard the mother do that. But you can clearly see that there is a severe fracture in the way they communicate.
It can not all just been attacking and pointing the finger! Her daughters didn’t come on there to take accountability also, they came to point out what she did wrong as a mother. How can you expect anyone to give you a heartfelt apology and listen when you are disrespectful. It won’t work. Not a parent, boss, or a bum in the street. Communication is not just stating your opinion it also includes active listening, mindfulness and open minded people who are looking to resolve issues.
Look I held so much resentment towards my dad for not being there. I used to watch him on tv and at high powered events protecting some of the most famous ppl in the world. I used to think how can he care about them but not me his daughter.
It took for me to go through life, F up a few times and need forgiveness from others, and have a child myself before I could forgive him.
I realized that I had to meet him where he was and accept it or walk away. I wanted this box office movie apology and I wanted him to change everything I didn’t like. But that is not possible.
So once I let go of the hate and the need to be validated by him it was easy.
Her daughters pain is real and their own. There is nothing the mom can do or say to alleviate that. Whenever it happens it will be because they decided to release it.
@@Itzyhani I said don’t expect and I’m referring to this situation in particular because the mother is obviously a narcissist that feeds off the fact she did the job she signed up for. I can’t believe you are defending this sorry ass excuse of a parent but hey you might be just as bad so let me me not speak
Icelynn is BEAUTIFUL and any therapy she did is working ! Boundaries are extremely important with toxic parents. You have to love them from a distance or else you’ll drive yourself crazy. A lot of our parents think they did their best because that’s the only thing they knew but I don’t think they understand that sometimes their best isn’t good enough.
Watching them apologize towards the end really warmed my heart ❤️
Karmo jus know if I EVER see you I'm hugging you and I normally DO NOT get in folks space, but you are jus a joy! your listening skills are kinda frightening (that's my own trauma) but to be heard. You definitely hear well, Keep up the amazing work! UP Top ✋
He’s adorable ❤
That middle daughter is absolutely beautiful!! Face card eatsssss
This is me with my mom . I appreciate watching this because it gave me proper advice as well
Respect,shaking his hand/sit down,it’s sad for real n see this a lot n families/mental health is seriously on the arisen
That was so difficult to watch! While not my experience, I know SO many woman that have lived this life and still struggle as adults w/children of their own - some repeating the cycle. Praying for healing for this family!
The mom may need to get another therapist..because whoever she been seeing doesn't have her take accountability..maybe he /she is a yes therapist 🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
WHOMEVER
The middle daughter is 100%. She avoids accountability and over talks them to stop them from telling her the TRUTH about herself.
The baby is outright disrespectful. Period. Her attitude is out of control.
If all 3 of your daughters consider you problematic, you should stfu and reassess the type of mother and PERSON you are.
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Anyone else see how the kids that were beaten and mistreated are more respectful than the one that wasn't? The youngest admits she was spoiled compared to the other two yet she came out nasty af. She didn't experience the trauma her sisters did... she was just mad that her mother gave her a boundary and a consequence.
Meeeeeeeeeeeeee but whoopings is sooooooo traumatizing and abusive. This gentle parenting style getting on my nerves.
That young one needed a whipping! Being a parent is hard and finding the balance is hard. Lack of discipline is what has caused our youth to be so disrespectful! Now with whippings I believe you also have to provide positive feedback and guidance in order to balance the discipline.
@@msamariabmaking massa proud. getting so angry you have to put your hands on someone is beyond me.
@@sleepy.thehumanYou don't have to be angry to administer corporal punishment.
"My parents beat me as a child and I am not traumatized," said the man whose ex-partner reported him for physical violence.
"When I was a child they left me crying alone until I fell asleep and it was so bad I did not go out," said the man who spends long hours in social networks, affecting his sleep.
"They punished me as a child and I'm fine," said the man who, every time he makes a mistake, says to himself words of contempt, as a form of self-punishment.
"As a child, they put a heavy hand on me and I suffer from a trauma called 'education'," said the woman who still does not understand why all of her partners end up being aggressive.
"When I became capricious as a child, my father locked me in a room alone to learn and today I appreciate it," said the woman who has suffered anxiety attacks and can not explain why she is so afraid of being locked in small spaces .
"My parents told me they were going to leave me alone or give me to a stranger when I did my tantrums and I do not have traumas," said the woman who has prayed for love and has forgiven repeated infidelities so as not to feel abandoned
"My parents controlled me with just the look and see how well I came out," said the woman who can not maintain eye contact with figures of 'authority' without feeling intimidated.
"As a child, I got even with the iron cable and today I am a good man, even professional," said the man his neighbors have accused the police for drunk hitting objects and yelling at his wife.
"My parents forced me to study a career that would make me money, and see how well off I am," said the man who dreams of Friday every day because he is desperate in his work doing something every day that is not what he always wanted.
"When I was little they forced me to sit down until all the food was finished and they even force fed me, not like those permissive parents" affirmed the woman who does not understand why she could not have a healthy relationship with food and in her adolescence came to develop an eating disorder.
"My mother taught me to respect her good chancletazos to the point," said the woman who smokes 5 cigarettes a day to control her anxiety.
"I thank my mom and my dad for every blow and every punishment, because, if not, who knows what would happen to me," said the man who has never been able to have a healthy relationship, and whose son constantly lies to him because he has fear.
And so we go through life, listening to people claiming to be good people without trauma, but paradoxically, in a society full of violence and wounded people.
The way the youngest would talk to the mum I was like 😱😱 I could never talk to my mum or my dad that way. Hope they work things out.
7:15 “I learned a lot of behaviors from my mother” that’s exactly what her daughters have done. Mainly the youngest.
I guess when your a child growing up in a toxic household where your own worst enemies is the world AND YOUR PARENTS you feel like you need to push your true self down and match their energy for a little while, just until you get out of it. Unfortunately by the Time you do, you don’t realize you might’ve been infected by the bad environment.
That little daughter is so rude! Icelynn is beautiful inside out.
Very rude
She should be, her mom was terrible TO ALL OF THEM!!!
She’s just like her mom, actually.
I agree and This is exactly why kids dont talk to their parents at all and cut them out of their lives
I’m going to show this video in the counseling session with my mom and I …..if I had any tears left I would cry…
Damn, I felt that.
Can we talk about the boots the mom has on? They are fire.
Yes, ma'am!
You see tht little one sense she catered to her there is no respect - tht middle child I feel for her and the oldest
That little one got a foul a** mouth. Too disrespectful for me towards her mom.
fr. I'm sorry but I did not like her energy at all, or towards her mom.
Yea her attitude is a no go, she should e been addressed! No need to disrespect your mom like that on tv especially when she was in the wrong.. that was her moms car
But it is what it is , the youngest is usually the craziest and most angry
Wasn’t their mom like super shity to like-all of them in different ways. Like what are y’all expecting. Do you treat everyone close to you(family or not) like crap their whole life because you feel entitled to and still expect them to be good to you after!?!?🤦🏾♀️
@@mesmerio-0 there's a level of respect you have for your elders especially your mom. You can get your point across as the "child" without the hostility or just walk away. There should never be a point where you want to fight your parents. Trust me on this. I've been through a lot growing up and I have 10 kids all with different feelings and or attitudes and not one has ever approached me like they lost their mind.
The one that didn't get whoopins got warrants....😂 bad and mean asf.
And the older two are traumatized from their whoppings. As parents, we can't just win. Smh
@@chandralafayewalker-smith6104There is a balance. If your child is being reasonable, you don’t beat that out of them. When your child is being unreasonable, use every tool on God’s green earth to make sure you’re not ‘sparing the rod and spoiling the child.’
If your child is engaging in behaviour that will get them arrested, then you beat them to deter them getting in trouble with the law. That’s reasonable.
If your child has taken the family car with a perfectly reasonable explanation for why she thought it would be okay (such as you were camped in bed, late at night, watching a movie with your fiancé, and looked like you had no intention of moving/using the car - all of which the mother affirmed) then it would be wrong to punish the child. Instead, to deal with your irritation instruct your adult child to bring that vehicle home as soon as they can manage, and once home calmly explain that ‘it causes me to resent you when you use the car for anything other than work. I need that vehicle to last, and you running off with it won’t make my vehicle last, especially when it’s night time and your chances of getting into an accident-we-can’t-afford increase.’ Once that boundary is set and your child knows it exists, it is reasonable to get angry should your kid decide to violate it.
Their mother is acting like she hasn't done anything.
The young one is the type who will kill her parents because she was spoiled all her life and can’t handle being told no.
Sure would. Then she brags about never being disciplined. Girl we can tell. 🥴🥴
8:29 The oldest sister facial expressions got me rolling 😂
What’s the worst, is Big sis came out and immediately got ignored and accepted it. Didn’t even get to finish her story. But the way these women are, reminds me of my relationship with my sisters and mother.
My oldest sis was the second mom to an overwhelmed adult who was suppose to raise her too, she learned how to not piss my mother off and help out and had to grow up way too fast. She’s also the most distant from my mom, from having to go through the most AND first.
My middle sister is def the black sheep, and since 18-21 I started to understand some of her anger and isolation/feeling isolated. My middle sister always alleged that my mom and her had issues, with the men she’d feel like she chose over her, in one instance my mom named a specific marriage, that she feels like my middle sister ruined. My middle sister looks at my big sister as more of a motherly figure, learned and still in my opinion tries to mimic my big sisters life (my big sis moved away as soon as she could, started businesses and is super successful with very limited time around my mother, also still my mother’s favorite). And my middle and big sis had a love hate relationship for a long while, because our big sister/mom confused what our dynamics were supposed to be, in my middle sister’s mind.
Then there is me, the youngest. Most violate, outspoken, spoiled by sisters who love me and wanted to protect me from my mother, teach me, and guide me. Sympathetic to how hard I’ve come to understand my sisters have been treated/what they had to go through (and not even all the time, early twenties recent). I had basically picked a side as well, obvi my sisters, and any neglect or emotional damage or trauma I experienced from my mother was personal in a real way to me, and my responses were two fold, because I saw both ways she handled being a mother, and felt like I’d refuse being my sisters and taking her mess, the way that they did. And I was spoiled by my mother because I am the “baby”, and was my mothers final chance at getting sh*t “right” with her kids. Old habits do die hard😂
But it’s just interesting because I always compare mother and 3 daughter specific dynamics, and it usually always stacks up like this. My bad I originally wanted to give the oldest sister her flowers, because literally no one noticed that with her on stage. But here we are 😅
Unfortunately I can understand the mom. Hurt people will hurt more people and sadly it was the children who got hurt. It's a ripple effect. This mom has been thru a lot of abuse herself as a child and could not recognize the pain she put the kids thru. She was acting out of her own pain. Sad that the girls had to suffer the brunt thereof.
I effing love this show!! 😭😭 This is beautiful 💚💚
Everything starts with the parent!!!! That’s all I’m saying 🙊
I just want to say why when adult children are disrespectful people find reasons to justify it? If your parent is abusive or just too much cut them off. My mom is toxic and I’ve never EVER cursed her out I know how to deal with her. I’d rather distance myself before cursing her. How you live with your mom and feel that she owes you something as a grown woman.
Not everyone is you. That's the answer.
well if you really think about it not everyone thinks the same
Respect is respect. Parent or indifferent. Negative behavior gets enabled because of this thinking. Some of our parents are toxic and need to be cussed tf out
Absolutely, that is sometimes when they realize that you are just not going to take it anymore. Bringing me into this world does not give you the right to abuse me on any level.
@@yakiralovesall and this is why people are dying younger and younger 🤷🏾♀️
I think its very important to acknowledge that If a child/teenager holds that much anger towards their parents, something is wrong, and that it can come from the parents and what they have done. A person that is that angry and disrespectful is that for a reason, I have been that myself, NOT as much as the girl in this video, but that can be resentment towards the parents and grief most of the time. This doesn’t mean that it’s okay at all, but it’s important to understand. I hope they all heal🙏🏾🙏🏾
It’s unfortunate because no one wants to take accountability. I can not stand a parent that feels they never do anything wrong. Just own your shit!
This remind me so much of me and my sisters but with my dad. My middle sister cut us off, I’m the youngest still dealing with my dad but becoming desensitized and numb to it, my oldest sister recognizes how our dad is and created boundaries. I just wish me and my sisters could sit down together and have a conversation about our experiences so we can at least be there for each other.
The daughter in the blue,girl….. smh.
She need to be on somebody's runway modeling
@@BOSSLADY-cu8vs nal she needs her a s s beat for disrespecting her mom like that!
@@BOSSLADY-cu8vs the youngest? Absolutely not lol Icelynn though,I agree!
Right!
13:47 the most realest thing ever said on the internet
The middle child will continue to elevate and blossom. Proud of her and blessings to her and her children. 💯
That youngest one something else! Very disrespectful and whoever agree with her is sick. She is extremely entitled.
The mother is just as disrespectful
My mom is the same. The whooping made you who you are… oh that’s the signature non accountability mothers
Factz
I believe tf out of them. Narcissistic parents always choose their partners over their kids.
The parents always also go after the kid that forced them to realize the messed up traits about themselves. I was the scapegoat so ik first hand how it goes.
True❤