Can we normalize parents not using their trauma/experiences as an excuse on why they treat their kids shitty?! The mother said she don’t hold no grudges against her parents but her actions toward her daughter says different
But that's what she didn't get out of this whole thing. She barely even -- and she looked full of grief that she had to do this on TV just for her own pride -- acknowledged that she wouldn't write off her own kids' experiences. Karamo had to force her for lack of time remaining on the segment, in my opinion, with how they rushed off right after that.
Exactly it gets old quick do better then your parents not use them as an excuse for not knowing what to do. I’m a firm believer that if u know what not to do then u know what to do I’ve learned a lot from life based on what I learned I didn’t want for myself it was never a matter for being showed what I did want
We grow from what we know and Show what we know. Either being Traumatic experience or Hereditary mental illness. Most people who've dealt with these generation curses most of the time stuck with knowledge that was passed down to them instead of being better. Can't know better until it's taught to you
shes the kind of mum that will keep dismissing what her daughters are saying then she'll act all surprised when she gets abandoned by everyone in old age
Omg thank you! You have no idea how much this validates my experience! My mom has always been good at making sure I know she sacrificed so much in her life to provide for me and honestly she’s always been a great provider but unfortunately not a great mother.
Damn thank you for saying that.... I am a mother of 2 girls 6 and 8... I feel more and more every day that I'm a failure as a mother because I am not financially stable due to my health. Their dad is very financially stable and buys them anything they want and I feel that they think I don't because I don't want to not because I can't. Don't get me wrong I am thankfully their father has the funds to take care of them financially and I came from a poor home and am poor now... anyway... just thank you for saying that.
the mother says 'yes i hit you in the face WITH A METAL PIPE when you were 13 and i went to jail' then in the next breath she says 'but i didnt abuse them'
My mom has hit me with a baseball bat and some how the bat broke and now I'm 56 years old and my back acts up when it gets cold.and I don't wish this on anyone
She is TRAUMATIZED and doesn’t even realize …it’s all in the eyes. As parents we do one of two things, pass on treatment we received from our parents whether positive or negative…OR pass on ONLY the positive.
The little sister validates her mother a lot. I can tell after the mom does something, she pulls the little sister to the side and does the disingenuous "Was I wrong?" tactic and the little sister gives the "I think y'all should work it out." answer which is a validation in itself because abusers interpret that as you're on their side since you don't point out what they did. The big sister is fighting this battle alone and doesn't know it.
This is what its like with my cousin telling me, "Y'all need to work it out and get along", whenever I call for help with my narcisisstic grandfather, as he rages at me and lies to her about my treatment of him.
Yes!!!! I felt so bad witnessing that. She was begging for her little sister’s validation and alliance, but kept getting those fenceriding, diplomatic responses. She’s never had a hero or an advocate, and sadly her sister isn’t one either.
Sometimes siblings also validate the abusive parent to maintain a connection. Human beings are wired to prioritise that caregiver connection, however abusive. Often they're too scared of breaking that connection to distance themselves.
I never saw her smiling when she was upset when she yelled at her daughter saying there was no beating going on she wasnt smiling she was frowned up@@miaperry318
I hate the way so many mothers in Karamo expect respect when they don't deserve it. Age doesn't mean you deserve respect if you are a cruel and useless parent
More people need to understand this. Age does not mean you are entitled to respect. You have to earn that. That is why adults think the younger generations are disrespectful, because the way people view respect is changing. Its no longer something you simply achieve and deserve by aging, its something you earn through treating others respectfully
“I didn’t get BEAT I got DISCIPLINED.” Like…I need our people to be free from thinking that disciplines=abuse/hitting. Literally comes from slavery 😞 she don’t wanna hear the truth.
I agree that our people need to start incorporating more conversation, truth, and respect when it comes to discipline. But that traditional toxicity that we're used to did not come from slavery. It's human nature to use fear until you purposefully dedicate yourself to do things differently. It comes from ignorance.
Can't give insight. This mom lacks insight The daughter is emotionally stunted Both could be happier if they went to therapy independently and perhaps for their sanity they should not be connected
She’s either 100% textbook narcissist or it’s a defense mechanism. Difference is the defense mechanism comes down sometimes a narcissist won’t give in. I find her scary her voice her demeanor. She looks like someone who’ll break one of your limbs and right away blame it on you. I think she’s a dangerous woman and women need to CUT contact.
Parents, if you hit your kids you don't get to decide how it affects them in adult hood and be mad at them for FEELING. I don't know any adult who ever thanked their parent for laying hands on them.
@@kiagraham2987 anyone that thinks hitting children is ok is the problem with society. It was used against slaves to control them...not to make them disciplined...the elites are teaching society to whoop their children as a control mechanism....WAKE UP!
I know a lot of disciplined and respectable law abiding citizens who were not whooped, myself included. You can appreciate your parents for raising you and taking care of you..but at the end of the day that’s their job. Children don’t choose to be here. Adults are the ones who lay down and make babies. Not trying to be confrontational but I don’t agree with giving people credit for things they are supposed to do. I am all for showing gratitude and appreciation though.
LOVE is Patient LOVE is Kind LIVE doesn't Boast LOVE isn't easy to anger Doesn't dishonor others Love doesn't keep score LOVE is unconditional LOVE conquers ALL
The mom has so much pain and she's hiding it by fake smiling. She almost told us what happened to her, but she stopped herself. She too was abused growing up. The beautiful thing about this is the daughters are breaking this generational curse and making sure their kids don't experience it.
Y'ALL.... the way her face changes when Karamo GENTLY says, "I didn't say that" at 14:00 .. tells you everything you need to know. With all due respect to this woman and her family, she is beyond healing at her age. She may say she's not angry or bitter but her spirit is full of darkness. Praying she and her daughters individually find peace one day.
Mom wants her daughter to forgive, but she never really "extends an olive branch" so to speak. She just tells her daughter to get over it. Thats like stabbing someone, and then expecting them to get over it, but the knife is still in your hand.
Those are the actions of someone with a personality disorder. Someone who has a hard time feeling empathy for other people. And she knows she has had this issue probably all her life but has taught herself how to mimic facial expressions that her messed up brain thinks is fitting for the moment. And that's why the smile is so robotic. Because she's trying so hard to fake something that really can't be faked but so long. When people try to PRETEND like they care, they' often times do it because they know that based on societal norms, they would probably look odd for not really looking bothered by the way someone feels in a situation like this. She doesn't want people to pick up on the fact that she literally doesn't know how to emotionally connect with her daughters or probably ppl in general. So when people expresss emotions like crying around her (especially in response to something that she has done to the person) she smiles because it's an awkward response to feeling uncomfortable when she sees the tears and the hurt because whatever childhood trauma she experienced literally triggered her brain to not respond to the hurt other people feel. And that is likely because no one responded to the hurt she felt as a child.
The only way the older daughter can begin to heal is to accept that she will NEVER get that love and accountability from her mother, and know that her healing can only come from letting go and staying away from her mother.
I feel this woman’s pain, my siblings and I went through the very same thing, my mom drew blood when she beat us, never once said she was sorry for how she treated us. She would start crying when we mentioned how abusive she had been, she would then tell us if we didn’t misbehaved she would have to beat us. Imagine using a rope to tie your child to a tree all night long and think it’s right. Only by the grace of God that we survived, to this day some of us have scars from her beatings.
I can absolutely relate to the oldest sister. I was the scapegoat who was abused by my parents…especially my mother. The anger she feels tells a whole story. How dare her mother attempt to invalidate her feelings and experience. I hope she continues to heal and finds true peace. ❤
Me too! Just when you think maybe a Mofo changing, BOOM, here they come with part 99! Mine tried it this Mother’s Day! Girl bye! I don’t even deal with her no more, except if I feel like it, maybe 3 times a year! Maybe!
I have an estranged relationship with my mother too. Being abused mentally, physically, emotionally and verbally. FIST Fighting her men for her. Defending her if someone speaks ill of her but still was not appreciated or loved to the degree that I felt I needed as her only daughter. I also left to live with my father when I was 13. I never want to know what would have become of me if I stayed. I feel for these ladies and I’m so happy to know they don’t fight each other but fight the world together 🥰 May they continue to heal and love each other even when Mom displays zero accountability.
I have an estranged relationship with my mother too. Never ever had an outing with her, never ever calls, never ever expressed concerns, was a very violent mother and physically, mentally, emotionally, financially abusive. Everyday I was beaten to almost death and taken to the hospital a lot as a youth and would make me say I fell off of a swing. I was an honor student all my educational life and became a very successful business woman still to this day and my mother doesn't give a damn. I'm 60 and she's almost 90 and still a mean person.
@@a.8774 omg that is terrifying 🥺 I’m sorry you went through that . I’m praying for you to remain healed from this if you have, and I pray that you know none of it was your fault. 💕
@a.8774 You Never Deserved Any of What was Done to You at the hands of your mother. Anger, Rage, Powerlessness often results in Cruelty served to the vulnerable and innocent. Sadly, too many people around are aware and for too many reasons do Not expose the abuser to stop the sadistic venting and physical assaults. Please, if you haven't already, seek professional support. These types of Harms can affect you for a Lifetime. LOVE
@auraofanangel I too understand and went through what you described. I just turned 40 and I had woke up late to her abuse.I was so use to being the " punching bag" that I still "loved " her,until I found my strength at 26 🙌I started living for myself and I no longer speak to her ❗️
Omg I feel so sorry for this woman. The mom is a narcissist and most likely bipolar. Did you see the way she stopped smiling when Karamo told her her dad abused her? If looks could kill
The way that mom was smiling like something was funny while her daughter was out there crying to Karamo and being vulnerable shows how narcissistic she is
Daughters need to gone cut that cord and grieve mom while she's still alive. They deserve peace, and so does mom--SEPERATE from each other. Wish them all the best❤
the moms face in in out of smiling represents alot if what she went through growing up even though there was probably some sense that it wasn’t right she kept if the façade but it only ended up hurting her children because she brought her pain to them
From the way the mother is and how she cant even get the lies out clearly, I believe the daughter. My mom denied everything I said she did and told me I make things up. I see my mother in her mom. Shes toxic. The daughters just have to move on from their mother for their mental health. She wont change.
THIS LITERALLY LITERALLY MADE ME FEEL LIKE I WAS A KID AGAIN...I WENT THREW THE SAME SHIT GROWING UP...ME N MY MOMS STILL BUMPS HEADS TILL THIS DAY...EVERY TIME IT HAPPENS I FEEL YOUNG AGAIN...ONLY DIFFERENCE NOW..I DNT DEAL WIT IT
Same but everything got so much better when I cut her off and had my own kids she wanted to be in their lives but I didn’t allow it until she stopped being so toxic now we are in a better place but it’s I swear it’s only because I cut her off and refused to keep accepting horrible treatment she saw I wasn’t playing and she changed . A lot of mother won’t even do that ultimately tho I’m glad she did because our relationship is beautiful now but it took me not communicating with her for a long time for us to get here
@alexisdiamond2529 That's crazy..but I'm so glad yall could work things out and ur mom could finally understand where u where coming from....it's so hard 2 talk with a parent about how ur feeling when they dnt get or understand where ur coming from..they take there abuse out on there kids because of wat they've been thru and that's not cool.....hopefully u can break the cycle..I always said if I had kids I wouldn't never raise a hand 2 him/her...may God continue 2 bless u and ur family stay strong and happy holidays ❤️ 💖 😊
Me too ...cuz as a parent you should always forgive your child. These narcissistic parents always want the grace and forgiveness they never extended to us.
Mom don’t wanna take accountability..discipline and abuse is two different things..hitting your kids with metal objects is not discipline..the bottom line is most parents however they were raise and discipline they always raise their kids the same way because in her mind she think how she was discipline was ok
Hitting your kids in general is abuse...according to the definition of abuse. Kids are battling the same demons that adults are....adults refuse to give children mercy and grace, but expect the children to give it to them....hitting children is what causes broken adults. Discipline is not hitting, it's correcting and teaching.
That mom needs to RELEASE THE PRIDE, EGO, AND NARCISSISM N REALIZE SHE HAS TO ACKNOWLEDGE HER PAST TAUNTS HER THAT SHE PUTS ONTO HER DAUGHTERS the oldest was upset and frustrated and hurt and the younger one tryna be the peacemaker babygirls it's best to love from a distance at some point no matter who it is ❤❤❤
It’s takes A LOT for a mom to realize her wronging to say” I’m here today, and I’m sorry” it’s takes ALOT for even showing up, I hope they get the closure & healing they need 🙏🏿
The youngest sister broke it down perfectly. It’s a shame mom couldn’t listen to her before they were on the show which means that she’s not being genuine in her apology. The mom is so confused in her brain it’s not even working correctly one minute she said she wasn’t abused and then her next she says dad abused her then she said she’s not angry but it’s a parent she is angry and gave birth to anger in two girls
The sisters have a beautiful soul, and I couldn't begin to imagine having a mother like that. I'm *very* blessed. And they are, too, for not only surviving but being better than their mom, and not becoming who she is, a person that hates herself. I think they broke the cycle.
My father abused me I feel this to hard , it’s different when its a man , it really breaks you . But I’m glad we rekindled our relationship and are in a healthy place .hope that for these young ladies .
Same for me but my father recently slipped up and now I’m totally done with him. I’m 30 and honestly tired of going back and forth with him. I can’t allow it to happen anymore.
@@anayayoung5422 I’m kind of at the point if I do have him in my life it won’t be to have a relationship. Just me being cordial enough to not ruin family moments.
I’ve noticed alot on this page and just in life that narcissism is very prominent in the black community. As person who has a narcissistic mother, I feel for them. A lot of these cases deal with narcissistic mothers, golden child’s, and black sheeps. As a only child i can gladly say that I am a black sheep and I feeel for them so much. It breaks my heart seeing them try to fix these relationships knowing that it will never change and really the only solution when it comes to dealing with narcs is separation. No matter how understanding you are, how accomplished you are, they will never see you as enough. I had to forcefully become self aware because of the relationship with my mother which is why I was able to come to the conclusion she was narcissistic. It’s so devastating bc no child should have be forced to awareness because of trauma. It’s absolutely devasting.
That’s because of the historical trauma the black community faced. If you think your case and the case of these two sisters are bad (and they are), imagine having to deal with the type of brutal trauma and subjugation the ancestors had to deal with. All that is passed on and on until someone breaks the cycle, which is more guaranteed by literally not reproducing. But this cycle might be perpetual because not only the victims have to heal but the abusive side also and that’s probably even more difficult of a task…
I hate when parents use their past as an excuse. Im sorry if you got your ass beat as a kid why grow up and do that to your own child no justifiable reason no ma'am.
The whole " oh forgive me" " Im only humans," is the worst type of gaslighting and manipulations thats over use, the mothers only using these phrases because she knows thats what they want to " hear". Daughter being called angry and when the mom says she " doesn't hold her parents against them" and began the whole Im not bitter just proves her views and her lack of maturity/ emotional maturity. All that parents arent perfect is removing accountability and guilt for wrongdoing and traumatizing your child. This mom need therapy and help but doesn't even want to admit what's wrong with her
It's so sad and heartbreaking to think that the mom's like that because she went through the same thing and has adapted to it. It's gotten to a point where she doesn't want to admit it being called "abuse" and thinks that it's normal to do to her own kids. 😣😥 Her daughters are real ones for breaking the abuse cycle and not doing it to their kids. The mom needs serious help and therapy, and so do her daughters. I just truly hope that they can heal from it, even though it'll take time. 🙏💗❤💖
The mother needs a real encounter with God. Therapy is not going to break those mental strongholds on her mind. Those generational curses are embedded deeper with her now. She’s needs a real encounter with God to revolutionize her mind fully. Those two daughters are beyond broken, especially the oldest.
younger sister saw what happened to older sister when she stood up for herself in childhood and so played diplomat with mom to avoid getting beat at the same level. mom will never admit to or feel guilt, younger sister will continue to enable, and older sister will grow more and more distant as time passes. heartbreaking to see
I was well provided for in my grandmother's house. Well fed, well clothed, clean house, but that didn't make her a good grandmother. The beatings and psychological torment outshone the good things she provided. I could never love her because I was terrified of her. I can't love someone if I'm terrified of them. I couldn't love her because her abuse made her unlovable to me. Mom is stubborn and does NOT want to admit to any wrongdoing. I feel so much for her eldest daughter.
Im not so sure that the mum has moved past her childhood experience. She reproduced it with her daughters and she cant see how it has affected her. Its good that the sisters don't do the same to their kids, though.
Baby boomer moms are hard like that. I was so brainwashed to think this was normal. I also thought God wanted us to spank our children. But God revealed to me that is old testament. We are under the new covenant which is to love. So God healed me and revealed His true self to me. I have set up a beautiful calm down corner for my children. A colorful rug, pillow, blanket, coloring books, crayons, sensory toys, journals to jot their thoughts and feelings and a cute bonding game for us. There is a better & higher way.
God never told you to spank ur kids, the rod was never used to beat kids it was used by shepereds to GUIDE the sheep. You sick people just twisted it and used it as justifcation to mistreat abd inflict pain on ur kids
Happy Wednesday Karamo!!! I can identify all too well these ladies’ situation. I was a victim of child abuse at the hands of my mother. The only person who tried to help me was my baby brother (he passed away on 05/16/2022). I was punched in the face w/ closed fists, beaten w/ a weight belt that the body builders use, I had a gun pulled on me at 14 yrs old. That’s just the tip of the iceberg. I was blessed w/ stopping this cycle when I had my own children. The results of the relationship between me & my mother is WE HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP & although I have forgiven her,I ABSOLUTELY HAVE NO TRUST for her or my 2 surviving siblings. I will trust the Grand Wizard of the KKK before I trust my Family!!! #PERIOD
Not as long as she isn’t beating people up with metal pipes she isn’t. She is angry, that’s not the same as violent or physically abusive. Her mother isn’t even angry just in denial?
HOW????? She has hurt and disappointment inside of her. Why? because she's yelling? Well sorry to disappoint you BUT that's how hurt ppl express themselves LET'S NOT ACT BRAND NEW🤡
Karamo had to get up first. This needs more than Karamo. This mother is just something else. She doesn’t want to be accountable for the pain she has caused to her daughters.
Can we normalize parents not using their trauma/experiences as an excuse on why they treat their kids shitty?! The mother said she don’t hold no grudges against her parents but her actions toward her daughter says different
But that's what she didn't get out of this whole thing. She barely even -- and she looked full of grief that she had to do this on TV just for her own pride -- acknowledged that she wouldn't write off her own kids' experiences. Karamo had to force her for lack of time remaining on the segment, in my opinion, with how they rushed off right after that.
I agree, though. I hate that shit. Perpetuation of abuse.
Exactly it gets old quick do better then your parents not use them as an excuse for not knowing what to do. I’m a firm believer that if u know what not to do then u know what to do I’ve learned a lot from life based on what I learned I didn’t want for myself it was never a matter for being showed what I did want
We grow from what we know and Show what we know. Either being Traumatic experience or Hereditary mental illness. Most people who've dealt with these generation curses most of the time stuck with knowledge that was passed down to them instead of being better. Can't know better until it's taught to you
@pattmahiney The mother is sincere and I hope they can put this in the past and heal
shes the kind of mum that will keep dismissing what her daughters are saying then she'll act all surprised when she gets abandoned by everyone in old age
IKR!!! AINT NOBODY GONNA BE LOOKING 4 HER SMMFGDH!!!!
I Would
This is my mother. Everything you just described
My mother and father
That’s my parents to the T smh
“You never had any bruises” is pretty much a confession. 👀
She had to heal though, so the mother is contradicting herself
not really... the LAW said you can spank as long as no mark is left on the body
I caught that too👍
@ScorpioDiva1112 spanking with an OPEN PALM is legal. any closed fist or hitting someone with any item is abuse and assault.
U can have scares on the inside you may not see the outside scares abuse is more then a bruise
Daughter: pouring her heart out to Karamo.
Mom (backstage): smiling like a hyena.
Shitting demon
Right!! you saw how she holding her head up high like she was holier than thou 🤨😒
Aggy lol I swear she irked my nerves
They feed off your tears
It's a defense mechanism
Being a good provider and Being a good mother are 2 Totally different things.. Just because you are a good provider doesn’t make you a good mother.
Omg thank you! You have no idea how much this validates my experience! My mom has always been good at making sure I know she sacrificed so much in her life to provide for me and honestly she’s always been a great provider but unfortunately not a great mother.
@@soulwave888 understood, I’ve grew up without both my parents, so I can relate fully.
Most people praise their horrible moms for the provision as though it makes the physical and/or verbal abuse worth it.
Amen!!
Damn thank you for saying that.... I am a mother of 2 girls 6 and 8... I feel more and more every day that I'm a failure as a mother because I am not financially stable due to my health. Their dad is very financially stable and buys them anything they want and I feel that they think I don't because I don't want to not because I can't. Don't get me wrong I am thankfully their father has the funds to take care of them financially and I came from a poor home and am poor now... anyway... just thank you for saying that.
the mother says 'yes i hit you in the face WITH A METAL PIPE when you were 13 and i went to jail' then in the next breath she says 'but i didnt abuse them'
My mom has hit me with a baseball bat and some how the bat broke and now I'm 56 years old and my back acts up when it gets cold.and I don't wish this on anyone
Insanity
@@royadams6638u never deserved that
She is TRAUMATIZED and doesn’t even realize …it’s all in the eyes. As parents we do one of two things, pass on treatment we received from our parents whether positive or negative…OR pass on ONLY the positive.
Dr. Phil always says the "but" is forget everything else I just said, this is what I really meant.
Toxic parents get amnesia when you try to hold them accountable.
Right
It's more like selective memory.
True
The axe forgets but the tree remembers......
ITS MANIPULATION..
The little sister validates her mother a lot. I can tell after the mom does something, she pulls the little sister to the side and does the disingenuous "Was I wrong?" tactic and the little sister gives the "I think y'all should work it out." answer which is a validation in itself because abusers interpret that as you're on their side since you don't point out what they did. The big sister is fighting this battle alone and doesn't know it.
Damn you ate that .
This is what its like with my cousin telling me, "Y'all need to work it out and get along", whenever I call for help with my narcisisstic grandfather, as he rages at me and lies to her about my treatment of him.
Yes!!!! I felt so bad witnessing that. She was begging for her little sister’s validation and alliance, but kept getting those fenceriding, diplomatic responses. She’s never had a hero or an advocate, and sadly her sister isn’t one either.
I can definitely relate to the older sister. The younger sister seems to be the flying monkey
Sometimes siblings also validate the abusive parent to maintain a connection. Human beings are wired to prioritise that caregiver connection, however abusive. Often they're too scared of breaking that connection to distance themselves.
The way she is standing back there smirking while her daughter talks about her pain says enough
I was just about to say that ! So cruel
I was thinking the same
shes not smirking at her daughter. If u pay attention to the mother, she smiles when in pain. She’s trying regardless how u may feel
@@miaperry318 its all perspective to me she didnt appear to be hurting, to you she did
I never saw her smiling when she was upset when she yelled at her daughter saying there was no beating going on she wasnt smiling she was frowned up@@miaperry318
I hate the way so many mothers in Karamo expect respect when they don't deserve it. Age doesn't mean you deserve respect if you are a cruel and useless parent
That's how they are. They only caused pain to everyone they were supposed to love and expect respect for being monsters.
More people need to understand this. Age does not mean you are entitled to respect. You have to earn that. That is why adults think the younger generations are disrespectful, because the way people view respect is changing. Its no longer something you simply achieve and deserve by aging, its something you earn through treating others respectfully
That’s how their programs are! They can never be wrong because they the “parent” and your the “child”.
“I didn’t get BEAT I got DISCIPLINED.” Like…I need our people to be free from thinking that disciplines=abuse/hitting. Literally comes from slavery 😞 she don’t wanna hear the truth.
I agree that our people need to start incorporating more conversation, truth, and respect when it comes to discipline. But that traditional toxicity that we're used to did not come from slavery. It's human nature to use fear until you purposefully dedicate yourself to do things differently. It comes from ignorance.
This needs more than what Karamo can give.
😩💯💯💯😫😫💯💯 smh
Can't give insight.
This mom lacks insight
The daughter is emotionally stunted
Both could be happier if they went to therapy independently and perhaps for their sanity they should not be connected
IYAHNLA
Indeed
can't fix a person who doesn't want to change!
Mama lies so she can live with herself. I think we all have that loved one who never takes responsibility and spins stories left and right.
Unfortunately I have 2 of those family members & they're both nuts 🤣
@@Kaytanaxo same here
I know what you mean. It's my dad for me.. 🙄😒
She’s either 100% textbook narcissist or it’s a defense mechanism. Difference is the defense mechanism comes down sometimes a narcissist won’t give in. I find her scary her voice her demeanor. She looks like someone who’ll break one of your limbs and right away blame it on you. I think she’s a dangerous woman and women need to CUT contact.
Coming from an abusive home. I can relate. The lies these mothers tell. I feel for the daughters.
I’m sorry you went through that ♥️
Ay same for real.
Parents, if you hit your kids you don't get to decide how it affects them in adult hood and be mad at them for FEELING. I don't know any adult who ever thanked their parent for laying hands on them.
I have thanked my mom for whooping me & raising me several times bc it made me a disciplined & respectable law abiding citizen.
@@kiagraham2987 anyone that thinks hitting children is ok is the problem with society. It was used against slaves to control them...not to make them disciplined...the elites are teaching society to whoop their children as a control mechanism....WAKE UP!
Thank you!! I barely got hit. I don’t get the point of hitting a child. They just know they don’t wanna be hit. You learn to be scared, not “respect”.
I know a lot of disciplined and respectable law abiding citizens who were not whooped, myself included. You can appreciate your parents for raising you and taking care of you..but at the end of the day that’s their job. Children don’t choose to be here. Adults are the ones who lay down and make babies. Not trying to be confrontational but I don’t agree with giving people credit for things they are supposed to do. I am all for showing gratitude and appreciation though.
@@kiagraham2987 I became all of that without being beat.
You can tell the mom watches Karamo lol. She was just saying what she knows she should say.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
FACTS
THANK YOU
I thought it was just me. Karamo didn’t fall for it
I saw that too@@nonamenoidea9792
LOVE is Patient
LOVE is Kind
LIVE doesn't Boast
LOVE isn't easy to anger
Doesn't dishonor others
Love doesn't keep score
LOVE is unconditional
LOVE conquers ALL
Amen 🙏🏽 ❤
Love is forgiveness!!
Love is extending Grace and Mercy!!
Amen
Amen❤️
The mom has so much pain and she's hiding it by fake smiling. She almost told us what happened to her, but she stopped herself. She too was abused growing up.
The beautiful thing about this is the daughters are breaking this generational curse and making sure their kids don't experience it.
Don’t excuse the mom’s behavior
❤❤❤
Very dysfunctional family 😢
@@marylou7105I don't either
That part !👍🏼
I always pray when my daughter gets older we have a great healthy relationship. It’s so sad to see mothers and daughters have unhealthy relationships
I pray,hope and work on our relationship everyday and even though she's 11 ,I'm working on building a healthy relationship 🎯
Teenage years could be challenging. Hardest thing for a mother is to let go that she's not your baby anymore and a "young woman".
Y'ALL.... the way her face changes when Karamo GENTLY says, "I didn't say that" at 14:00 .. tells you everything you need to know. With all due respect to this woman and her family, she is beyond healing at her age. She may say she's not angry or bitter but her spirit is full of darkness. Praying she and her daughters individually find peace one day.
Mom wants her daughter to forgive, but she never really "extends an olive branch" so to speak. She just tells her daughter to get over it. Thats like stabbing someone, and then expecting them to get over it, but the knife is still in your hand.
I have never seen someone to turn a smile on and off like the mother.
Those are the actions of someone with a personality disorder. Someone who has a hard time feeling empathy for other people. And she knows she has had this issue probably all her life but has taught herself how to mimic facial expressions that her messed up brain thinks is fitting for the moment. And that's why the smile is so robotic. Because she's trying so hard to fake something that really can't be faked but so long. When people try to PRETEND like they care, they' often times do it because they know that based on societal norms, they would probably look odd for not really looking bothered by the way someone feels in a situation like this. She doesn't want people to pick up on the fact that she literally doesn't know how to emotionally connect with her daughters or probably ppl in general. So when people expresss emotions like crying around her (especially in response to something that she has done to the person) she smiles because it's an awkward response to feeling uncomfortable when she sees the tears and the hurt because whatever childhood trauma she experienced literally triggered her brain to not respond to the hurt other people feel. And that is likely because no one responded to the hurt she felt as a child.
@@breannalinder91best explaination ever ❤️
Righttttt she has a true problem
@@breannalinder91this is such a good explanation you must be a psychologist or something 👏🏽
@@breannalinder91beautifully put.
It grinds my gears when parents think that “putting a roof over your head & food in their mouth” is the only thing a child needs growing up.
The only way the older daughter can begin to heal is to accept that she will NEVER get that love and accountability from her mother, and know that her healing can only come from letting go and staying away from her mother.
I feel this woman’s pain, my siblings and I went through the very same thing, my mom drew blood when she beat us, never once said she was sorry for how she treated us. She would start crying when we mentioned how abusive she had been, she would then tell us if we didn’t misbehaved she would have to beat us. Imagine using a rope to tie your child to a tree all night long and think it’s right.
Only by the grace of God that we survived, to this day some of us have scars from her beatings.
I hope GOD continues to heal you🙏🏾
I hate you went through that love🤎 you and your siblings didn’t deserve that! Praying for you and your siblings continued healing
Passed down from slavery
I’m so sorry😢
That's that generational slavery she was passing down. Maybe her ancestors once upon a time had to string up there own children.
The mom just seems like shes just trying to say the right things but she doesnt truly mean what shes saying
Me personally, I'd never speak to her again or have her in my life in any regard. Stay away from me and my kids for life
she is so amazingly intelligent and beautiful, too sad she grew up being torn down. she has so much love and light in her heart.
I can absolutely relate to the oldest sister. I was the scapegoat who was abused by my parents…especially my mother. The anger she feels tells a whole story. How dare her mother attempt to invalidate her feelings and experience. I hope she continues to heal and finds true peace. ❤
Me too! Just when you think maybe a Mofo changing, BOOM, here they come with part 99! Mine tried it this Mother’s Day! Girl bye! I don’t even deal with her no more, except if I feel like it, maybe 3 times a year! Maybe!
I have an estranged relationship with my mother too. Being abused mentally, physically, emotionally and verbally. FIST Fighting her men for her. Defending her if someone speaks ill of her but still was not appreciated or loved to the degree that I felt I needed as her only daughter. I also left to live with my father when I was 13. I never want to know what would have become of me if I stayed. I feel for these ladies and I’m so happy to know they don’t fight each other but fight the world together 🥰 May they continue to heal and love each other even when Mom displays zero accountability.
I have an estranged relationship with my mother too. Never ever had an outing with her, never ever calls, never ever expressed concerns, was a very violent mother and physically, mentally, emotionally, financially abusive. Everyday I was beaten to almost death and taken to the hospital a lot as a youth and would make me say I fell off of a swing. I was an honor student all my educational life and became a very successful business woman still to this day and my mother doesn't give a damn. I'm 60 and she's almost 90 and still a mean person.
@@a.8774 omg that is terrifying 🥺 I’m sorry you went through that . I’m praying for you to remain healed from this if you have, and I pray that you know none of it was your fault. 💕
@a.8774 You Never Deserved Any of What was Done to You at the hands of your mother. Anger, Rage, Powerlessness often results in Cruelty served to the vulnerable and innocent. Sadly, too many people around are aware and for too many reasons do Not expose the abuser to stop the sadistic venting and physical assaults. Please, if you haven't already, seek professional support. These types of Harms can affect you for a Lifetime. LOVE
Sorry u had to go thru this🙏🏾🙏🏾
@auraofanangel I too understand and went through what you described. I just turned 40 and I had woke up late to her abuse.I was so use to being the " punching bag" that I still "loved " her,until I found my strength at 26 🙌I started living for myself and I no longer speak to her ❗️
Omg I feel so sorry for this woman. The mom is a narcissist and most likely bipolar. Did you see the way she stopped smiling when Karamo told her her dad abused her? If looks could kill
Her emotional thermometer is way off. She lies to herself. He was abusive but her childhood was ok and she had a father. Ok.
The way that mom was smiling like something was funny while her daughter was out there crying to Karamo and being vulnerable shows how narcissistic she is
Defense Mechanism
Daughters need to gone cut that cord and grieve mom while she's still alive. They deserve peace, and so does mom--SEPERATE from each other. Wish them all the best❤
Daughter said she’s healed, but she isn’t. She’s full of anger and hurt. She needs some therapy badly
My mother abused me and tells others she loves me have not seen that woman in two decades but as long a she’s happy with her hubby 🙄
Damn that’s crazy 🙏🏾 for your peace & healing I know that feeling !
@@Krissyyy1111 I appreciate you sweets still trying to repair the damage x
The mom so aggressive with the sorry 🤦🏽♀️
She def only apologized for show.
@@loveconquersall419real!
She isn't sorry at all.
“I’m not angry or bitter” “I didn’t say that” she clearly projecting exactly how she feels about herself
the moms face in in out of smiling represents alot if what she went through growing up even though there was probably some sense that it wasn’t right she kept if the façade but it only ended up hurting her children because she brought her pain to them
From the way the mother is and how she cant even get the lies out clearly, I believe the daughter. My mom denied everything I said she did and told me I make things up. I see my mother in her mom. Shes toxic. The daughters just have to move on from their mother for their mental health. She wont change.
THIS LITERALLY LITERALLY MADE ME FEEL LIKE I WAS A KID AGAIN...I WENT THREW THE SAME SHIT GROWING UP...ME N MY MOMS STILL BUMPS HEADS TILL THIS DAY...EVERY TIME IT HAPPENS I FEEL YOUNG AGAIN...ONLY DIFFERENCE NOW..I DNT DEAL WIT IT
Prayers
Omg same
@EMPRESSPEACH888 soo srry 2 hear that...I had 2 stop watching this ep smh
Same but everything got so much better when I cut her off and had my own kids she wanted to be in their lives but I didn’t allow it until she stopped being so toxic now we are in a better place but it’s I swear it’s only because I cut her off and refused to keep accepting horrible treatment she saw I wasn’t playing and she changed . A lot of mother won’t even do that ultimately tho I’m glad she did because our relationship is beautiful now but it took me not communicating with her for a long time for us to get here
@alexisdiamond2529 That's crazy..but I'm so glad yall could work things out and ur mom could finally understand where u where coming from....it's so hard 2 talk with a parent about how ur feeling when they dnt get or understand where ur coming from..they take there abuse out on there kids because of wat they've been thru and that's not cool.....hopefully u can break the cycle..I always said if I had kids I wouldn't never raise a hand 2 him/her...may God continue 2 bless u and ur family stay strong and happy holidays ❤️ 💖 😊
Its always put on the child to forgive! Im sick of parents like this.
Me too ...cuz as a parent you should always forgive your child. These narcissistic parents always want the grace and forgiveness they never extended to us.
Mom don’t wanna take accountability..discipline and abuse is two different things..hitting your kids with metal objects is not discipline..the bottom line is most parents however they were raise and discipline they always raise their kids the same way because in her mind she think how she was discipline was ok
Hitting your kids in general is abuse...according to the definition of abuse. Kids are battling the same demons that adults are....adults refuse to give children mercy and grace, but expect the children to give it to them....hitting children is what causes broken adults. Discipline is not hitting, it's correcting and teaching.
That mom needs to RELEASE THE PRIDE, EGO, AND NARCISSISM N REALIZE SHE HAS TO ACKNOWLEDGE HER PAST TAUNTS HER THAT SHE PUTS ONTO HER DAUGHTERS the oldest was upset and frustrated and hurt and the younger one tryna be the peacemaker babygirls it's best to love from a distance at some point no matter who it is ❤❤❤
Daughter is so inspiring ❤...the mom is nuts...she doesnt want to take accountability
It’s takes A LOT for a mom to realize her wronging to say” I’m here today, and I’m sorry” it’s takes ALOT for even showing up, I hope they get the closure & healing they need 🙏🏿
Accountability is everything!!
I have a mammie just like this...i keep my distance..i have to protect my mental state and peace of mind...haven't talked nor seen her in 25 yrs
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾I deal with mine MAYBE 3 times a year, and that’s only because of family events! Even then I avoid that azz!
The oldest ALWAYS gets the worst treatment. It's like they are practicing on us so they can get it right with the others.
The youngest sister broke it down perfectly. It’s a shame mom couldn’t listen to her before they were on the show which means that she’s not being genuine in her apology.
The mom is so confused in her brain it’s not even working correctly one minute she said she wasn’t abused and then her next she says dad abused her then she said she’s not angry but it’s a parent she is angry and gave birth to anger in two girls
Her skin is flawless 🍫👸🏾👸🏾👸🏾
Whose skin
I hate when ppl think the only abuse there is physical. No ma’am there’s mental & emotional abuse.
the mom looks like a total mad woman
The sisters have a beautiful soul, and I couldn't begin to imagine having a mother like that. I'm *very* blessed. And they are, too, for not only surviving but being better than their mom, and not becoming who she is, a person that hates herself. I think they broke the cycle.
Yes you are 🙌💖
She is putting on such a face for this show ..Notice her face keeps changing every time & her smile drops
My father abused me I feel this to hard , it’s different when its a man , it really breaks you . But I’m glad we rekindled our relationship and are in a healthy place .hope that for these young ladies .
Same for me but my father recently slipped up and now I’m totally done with him. I’m 30 and honestly tired of going back and forth with him. I can’t allow it to happen anymore.
@@shawnleonidas sad to hear that I’m sorry for you hopefully you guys can mend things
@@anayayoung5422 I’m kind of at the point if I do have him in my life it won’t be to have a relationship. Just me being cordial enough to not ruin family moments.
@@shawnleonidas I feel that
Yes sweetie heal yourself 🙌🏾🥰 happy tears we cry 😢so sad mother should be ashamed
Mama was looking for approval from Karamo, trying to keep his eye contact....
I was scrolling and saw this comment I was saying the same exact thing.
Mom had a smirk on her face all the way through.
I’ve noticed alot on this page and just in life that narcissism is very prominent in the black community. As person who has a narcissistic mother, I feel for them. A lot of these cases deal with narcissistic mothers, golden child’s, and black sheeps. As a only child i can gladly say that I am a black sheep and I feeel for them so much. It breaks my heart seeing them try to fix these relationships knowing that it will never change and really the only solution when it comes to dealing with narcs is separation. No matter how understanding you are, how accomplished you are, they will never see you as enough. I had to forcefully become self aware because of the relationship with my mother which is why I was able to come to the conclusion she was narcissistic. It’s so devastating bc no child should have be forced to awareness because of trauma. It’s absolutely devasting.
That’s because of the historical trauma the black community faced. If you think your case and the case of these two sisters are bad (and they are), imagine having to deal with the type of brutal trauma and subjugation the ancestors had to deal with. All that is passed on and on until someone breaks the cycle, which is more guaranteed by literally not reproducing. But this cycle might be perpetual because not only the victims have to heal but the abusive side also and that’s probably even more difficult of a task…
you know the parent bad when they start using feeding you as a aay to deflect their abuse
My aunty was like this with her three children, my mum dad and grandma took them in and cared for them. To this she is in denial of her actions
"I never abused her," she said.
"I went to jail for hurting my child so bad, that police was called," she also said. How is that mother not seeing it?
It’s scary to see her mom just smiling in the back why her daughter is literally upfront crying like this woman has no remorse
Watching this, I am grateful for my kind and loving mother. I kinda appreciate more of what I have
I hate when parents use their past as an excuse. Im sorry if you got your ass beat as a kid why grow up and do that to your own child no justifiable reason no ma'am.
EXACTLY
Absolutely
I could never do my child the way this lady did to her daughters.
What did she do to get daughter unless I didn't see an the show.
Oldest daughter need therapy. Her mom is too triggering for her right now
This is like my mom and older sister. My older sister always felt that my mom didn't care about her and my mom acts confused when she hears it.
Same 😢
The older one is the experimental one
The mom has no remorse. She just want the girls to shut up and not bring up the past
“I am who I am, I know where I been, I don’t know where I’m headed, and I’m better than what I was, and I have faith in God!” AMEN❤❤❤
She said I cry so much I don’t have any tears as they run down her face.. just broke my heart :(
The mother has no life in her eyes . It’s like she’s dead in the inside
I was abused as a child but by my step father. I know how she feels. I wish i could hug the young women
The fact that the younger sister didn’t even get a chance to speak is a huge problem In itself
She sounds EXACTLY like my mom😩 I’m 49yrs old and my mom is 78 and she does exactly what this woman did. It took me 47 yrs to create BOUNDARIES💯
"My tears are not tears of sadness, they are not tears of joy, they are relief tears and it's part of my process of healing "
Famous quote❤
the mothers dark spirit is radiating all up and through this video
The whole " oh forgive me" " Im only humans," is the worst type of gaslighting and manipulations thats over use, the mothers only using these phrases because she knows thats what they want to " hear". Daughter being called angry and when the mom says she " doesn't hold her parents against them" and began the whole Im not bitter just proves her views and her lack of maturity/ emotional maturity. All that parents arent perfect is removing accountability and guilt for wrongdoing and traumatizing your child. This mom need therapy and help but doesn't even want to admit what's wrong with her
“ How can I tell something you don’t give me ? “ Girl I know that’s right ❤️
The mom looks so evil. It is so disturbing.😡
It's so sad and heartbreaking to think that the mom's like that because she went through the same thing and has adapted to it. It's gotten to a point where she doesn't want to admit it being called "abuse" and thinks that it's normal to do to her own kids. 😣😥 Her daughters are real ones for breaking the abuse cycle and not doing it to their kids. The mom needs serious help and therapy, and so do her daughters. I just truly hope that they can heal from it, even though it'll take time. 🙏💗❤💖
The mother needs a real encounter with God. Therapy is not going to break those mental strongholds on her mind. Those generational curses are embedded deeper with her now. She’s needs a real encounter with God to revolutionize her mind fully. Those two daughters are beyond broken, especially the oldest.
God please heal this family
I think they will be alright
younger sister saw what happened to older sister when she stood up for herself in childhood and so played diplomat with mom to avoid getting beat at the same level. mom will never admit to or feel guilt, younger sister will continue to enable, and older sister will grow more and more distant as time passes. heartbreaking to see
Something happened to the mom too & she took it out on her daughters
💯💯💯
Mother is a piece of work
watching this right now, i feel more grateful, i have a great mom. And i pray for the others that didn't had this. God heals everything 😉🦋
"i cry so much, I don't even have tears"
*Shows her crying*
I was well provided for in my grandmother's house. Well fed, well clothed, clean house, but that didn't make her a good grandmother. The beatings and psychological torment outshone the good things she provided. I could never love her because I was terrified of her. I can't love someone if I'm terrified of them. I couldn't love her because her abuse made her unlovable to me.
Mom is stubborn and does NOT want to admit to any wrongdoing. I feel so much for her eldest daughter.
This is so sad to watch. The older daughter is traumatised and really needs help and compassion. Hopefully their fractured relationship is healed 🙏🏽🌹
Wish there wasn't so much yelling and let Karomo speak
I’m sorry love! 💖 I’m wishing you strength, and healing. You Got This Girl. 💯🗣
Im not so sure that the mum has moved past her childhood experience. She reproduced it with her daughters and she cant see how it has affected her. Its good that the sisters don't do the same to their kids, though.
What kind of love is this😢
Baby boomer moms are hard like that. I was so brainwashed to think this was normal. I also thought God wanted us to spank our children. But God revealed to me that is old testament. We are under the new covenant which is to love. So God healed me and revealed His true self to me. I have set up a beautiful calm down corner for my children. A colorful rug, pillow, blanket, coloring books, crayons, sensory toys, journals to jot their thoughts and feelings and a cute bonding game for us. There is a better & higher way.
This is wonderful 🙏🏽 continue on with this direction.
God never told you to spank ur kids, the rod was never used to beat kids it was used by shepereds to GUIDE the sheep. You sick people just twisted it and used it as justifcation to mistreat abd inflict pain on ur kids
Mom just say, "I was wrong as hell. I did yall wrong. I didn't know any better. Forgive me". Geez, how hard is that?
Happy Wednesday Karamo!!! I can identify all too well these ladies’ situation. I was a victim of child abuse at the hands of my mother. The only person who tried to help me was my baby brother (he passed away on 05/16/2022). I was punched in the face w/ closed fists, beaten w/ a weight belt that the body builders use, I had a gun pulled on me at 14 yrs old. That’s just the tip of the iceberg. I was blessed w/ stopping this cycle when I had my own children. The results of the relationship between me & my mother is WE HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP & although I have forgiven her,I ABSOLUTELY HAVE NO TRUST for her or my 2 surviving siblings. I will trust the Grand Wizard of the KKK before I trust my Family!!!
#PERIOD
Not the wizard. I know it’s very serious but the way you said it, I can tell you are naturally funny. Bless you ✨
That mama is a horrible mom. I hope they left her
this lady takes after her mom
Not as long as she isn’t beating people up with metal pipes she isn’t. She is angry, that’s not the same as violent or physically abusive. Her mother isn’t even angry just in denial?
HOW????? She has hurt and disappointment inside of her. Why? because she's yelling? Well sorry to disappoint you BUT that's how hurt ppl express themselves LET'S NOT ACT BRAND NEW🤡
Karamo had to get up first. This needs more than Karamo. This mother is just something else. She doesn’t want to be accountable for the pain she has caused to her daughters.
The ones barking at children to respect them are usually the ones who are not respectable. Want respect? Give it.
My family does this all the time saying that I don’t deserve any respect because I’m the “child” it’s not right.