The 2020 718 Porsche Boxster Spyder is Finally a Roofless GT4! - One Take
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- Опубликовано: 4 янв 2020
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For the first time ever for 2020, Porsche has brought the Boxster Spyder into Andreas Preuninger's 'GT' program as a full-fledged member. That means, aside from the lack of a roof, the Boxster Spyder is mechanically and physically identical to the glorious Cayman GT4. It's got a four-liter engine, though not the four-liter engine if you know what I mean; it's got six manually-selected gears and a clutch, and it's one of the best motoring experiences on the market today.
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Porsche Cars, NA provided the vehicle, insurance and a tank of gas for this review. Авто/Мото
10:45 "If the top is up, you can't really open the trunk" Thank you for pointing it out. I appreciate difference from a pure product plug. Great channel.
Gadgety the kinda stuff you only find out when I get the car and take it home and live with it
Quirks and features
@@TheSmokingTire When I first got the key to the Spyder and the trunk wouldn't open. I thought the previous owner sold me a defective car lol
Demar Gio same here!
@@gauchegaucho I had the same problem when I was registering at the DMV
Now one week later we have a 4.0 in the GTS! Bless Porsche.
Valuable piece of historical context when he said "the only way to get a six-cylinder in a Boxster is..."
End of 3rd is 112. End of 4th is 144.
-- Type 981 Boxster Spyder owner.
Thats 180 and 231 in km.
Long, just like older AMG 5-G automatics.
Longer gears than my car with a 5 speed. Crazy
awesome, so it is geared to potentially achieve 200mph... in a vacuum
that should come in handy, and often
Jesus. Where does first and second end?
@@tear728 second is around 80. 15 mph past where most second gears end.
Beautiful car and that gentian blue colour is stunning
i agree
@@gembi92 Me, too. That car in that Blue is gorgeous.
Agreed. I'd also love to see it in a dark forest green color too.
Bryan I’m partial to blues and greens with tan or brown interiors. I’m not one for carbon fiber everything and dark interiors.
Wrong. It’s dunt have a HEMI. Nazi Micropernis Trash
Great review and perspective, Matt. I love how you got to live with the car for a week and could take it to all of the places you would normally go and treat it like a "real" car. The Boxster and Cayman have always had decent practicality and I drive my 718 Cayman as often as possible and anywhere I can just because it is fun and easy to live with. Interesting that a PDK + Sport Chrono base car can put up a 0-60 of around 4.5 as compared to the 4.2 in the 718 Spyder!
Matthew, this was the best and only ad I listened to completely that had meaning and purpose.
Matt, part what makes you so good is your absolute honesty. Great work. You and Zack are killing it 🤘
What a great car, great video, keep it up Matt I've been a fan since the start always learn something new
Particulate filters on gas engines is silly. The brakes probably create more heavy particulate matter than the exhaust does. Maybe the enviro-nutcase regulators in Europe should demand filters around wheel wells now.
Don't give them any more ideas
It's coming
www.google.com/amp/s/www.motor1.com/news/346653/brake-dust-particle-filter-spied/amp/
@@1NoEvo1 God almighty, that is insane! What about ground up particulate from tires and asphalt created when wheels drive over them? Are we going to put filters on top of our freeways and around tires to be perfectly free from dust??? Maybe drivers should be forced to wear giant condoms to prevent dry skin cells from flaking off and giving polar bears asthma.
Thank you Matt for the detailed explainer of the experience. The Boxster Spyder may be my favorite new car, and one I hopefully can afford some day. For the market it is in, it looks like a value and the 'low-output' 4.0L may be strongly driven by the 'Cayman Complex', but at 414bhp, I think it is just right for a car you an enjoy on the street while mobbing on a track. Just needs those shorter gears to be perfect.
I love that you have handwritten notes in your journal. Its becoming a lost art. I still do it.
With the long gearing, does it negate the need for a manual really?
Neil Craig hownit helps me too, is that when you write something out, you can remember what you were feeling. You connect with it at the time it was written, unlike typing or digitally recording something out.
I use fountaine pen every day.
And i love it!
Jarek Nowak kind of one of those simple pleasures...
@@golfbuddy1969 100% right :)
Place where function meets art.
golfbuddy1969 I exclusively write notes, lists, outlines, and tech briefing notes by hand. I wrote the entire WCCS business plan by hand on a yellow legal pad.
I hope I am chosen in our local allocation. It doesn't matter how much money one has to be chosen. I would get mine in silver with a red top. Keep up the great work Matt!
I live in the uk. I have just taken delivery of a 718 Spyder. Totally agree with all the comments but in reality the car has loads of torque so you can short shift and still really enjoy it. It’s the best car in the Porsche range at the moment.
Make mine Silver and black, and I'm good to go. Matt, as always, great feedback on the driving experience.
The Cayman/Spyder is the perfect size, and paired with a great 6 cylinder it's everything the 911 should be, especially if it wasn't factory handicapped.
Agreed, and still very under appreciated.
Not under appreciated by owners…
Would be great to hear comparisons of suspension and ride quality to the 981. We already know the sound is far superior on the 981. 200 lbs weight gain seems to offset the added hp
Damn that Zenith looks aggressive! Sick piece. Great car too.
As a 981 Spyder owner with plenty of track days, you'd get to 5th on long straights (Phillip Island) in the mountains of Australia (lol) you'd spend most of the time in 2nd and 3rd with occasional drops into 4th. 6th I highway overdrive and 5th really only high speed on tracks.
thanks for making great videos with good depth
Matt - thanks for the video (and the great channel for that matter). Question: if you had an allocation for either this or the 718 GT4 living on the east coast, would you still be comfortable with the roof for a car which would not be a daily driver but definitely driven often?
You can tell when Matt vibes with a car, he was hauling here
Hey Matt, I need to finalize my spec on this car by the end of the month. Leaning toward the full bucket seats you tested in; however, there is always the issue of desiring heated seats in a convertible. Would you spec the carbon fiber buckets on this for a weekend car in the Midwest or sport seats with heat. Could also be a car I hand onto into my 50s & 60s.
When you hear the flyby sound at 4:07 I thought it was a faster car coming in for an overtake 😂
More quality, less volume, worth watching, thanks Matt!
Amazing as always Matt!
Insane beautiful OMG what more to say in that in a manual now a days, Porsche nailed it.
OMG.......A 4 liter flat 6 in a small body like a Boxter with 416HP and ceramic brakes???? Its official....This ain't the poor man's 911 anymore. Love these drives Matt. Keep em coming. Beautiful footage, crystal clear. Dunno what camera you're using but WOW.
I own the 2013 981 Boxster S with porsche sport exhaust. This car is before the filter. The exhaust sounds amazing. Great cars cayman/boxster.
Loved the rolling Cali stop at 11:00. Great car. I love mine tall gears and all
Awesome review love your work!
Bruh that filter removes so much soul from the engine sound
Now you know whats going on in Europe… so sad😪
Yes but don’t expect much from the NA version - noise levels have to drop globally.
Europeans regulator are out of control. The brakes and tires will create more particulates than the engine does.
Yea most German cars after 2019, have that exhaust filter, darn emissions.
@@giovanni4436 There's more PM on the roadway than there is coming from the exhaust. Particulate filters are asinine. They actually increase consumption, which create MORE harmful emissions, much worse than heavy PM. EU regulators are clowns.
i love how you keep it real. so many reviewers go "gaga" over the cup2 tire but its not great for daily street driving
It's also pretty famous for losing ~3 seconds of lap time after its first hot lap. I am a big Michelin fan but I think they peaked with the Pilot Exalto PE2 and Pilot Super Sport; the most recent generation of Michelin performance tires don't feel as buttoned down, and the compounds don't feel as durable or consistent as they used to IMO.
Never tried them but what do you mean not daily streetable? My friends and I run with re71r or indy 500...
M C From experience, they don’t loose 3s on any course, they might loose 0.3s on your average European race track.
It looks amazing!!!!!
Very well presented. You do the test in real world conditions
Great review Matt!
Sunday morning, coffee , TST 👍🏽
When I eventually move on from my 981S it will be for this car. So glad they brought back the flat 6.
bmcallister1974 a guy I know will be selling his yellow 981S for the new gt4. I’m glad he isn’t “settling” for the 4-cyl turbo gts.
Main reason why I didn't settle for a 718 model was because of the 4cyl, This car seems so much better.
Hi Matt! ❤️the videos! I have a 1995 993 with NO flywheel and it idles perfectly. Revs like a motorcycle. The computer adapts to lack of flywheel. Mark Tashijan at Formula Motorsports NYC set it up. Mark was a Porsche Racing mechanic in Europe in 1970s. He says that the sports racing cars ran races with no flywheel. This does not work with later 993s as they have OBD2 so it throws a CEL code. Oh, another advantage of no fly wheel is the car creeps in 1st gear in traffic mush more smoothly than the DM flywheel.
So the filter makes it sound like a 911 Turbo without the turbos.
Just needs a active exhaust haha
Gorgeous amazing new car from Porsche. You can't go wrong with the new GT4 or Spyder for the money.
How's the size of the new boxster in relation to your 993
Thank you so much for sharing dude! You do the Cayman right?
A master class in driving and journalism
The 918 seats that they put in the T, and I believe in that boxter/Cayman, are definitely better than the gt3's. Glad you mentioned that.
Also this was the most hilarious example of how long the gearing is. still in 3rd.lol
it's like pdk for people who kinda want to shift but kinda don't.
Ghett Away
The carbon seats are the same in all porsche lines, exactly the same as in my 2016 GT4
Impressive car! I would definitely go for one!
Good on Matt for buying one!
Love the look of it now. Great to hear Porsche thinks the 4 cylinder was a mistake and looking to bring back a 6 to the main line.
I've noticed a lot of the design cues from the 918 Spyder trickling down to this 718 Spyder and even the 991.2 GT3RS.
The roof isn't a problem when you're guaranteed no rain the whole day. Unfortunately in England a beautiful summer day can quickly become a grey winters day within a few miles haha!
For Switzerland I prefer the GT4 and I can't wait for the roads to re-open. But in SoCal, the Spyder might be it. Awesome cars!
When will Sharkwerks offer the 718 gearbox mod and remove the filters? I'm waiting for that to be offered to get one of these.
So Matt, after watching both this and your gt4 vids......which one would you own?
Great review Matt. I’m extremely interested in this car but the gearing is a big turn off as I enjoy shifting almost as much as I would enjoy touching/hearing the car at the 8k redline.
One correction, carbon ceramics are not the only option on that car you drove. Unlike the first gen Spyder, the carbon buckets in this car are an optional extra ($5,900).
Does the Spyder have Porsche Entry and Drive standard? Not listed anywhere but there’s options to buy a key painted in exterior color, which it says only comes with the Entry and Drive option.
That looks like a great drive
In an interview with JWW, the head engineer for this car has said that this is the new engine for Euro emission standards and it will be used in other cars further down the road. I guess the old 4.0 from the GT3 will be retired rather soon.
Maybe. But Cayman complex still applies, no way new engine for GT3 will be this one from Cayman ;
The new 4.0 may most probably last longer than the GT3 4.0, but that engine will still be in Service for at least the 992.1 GT3, so we are talking a minimum of 3-4 years from now on.
It could be the next Gen motor but it's still clubbed at the knees so it won't challenge the 911
Jetara absolutely. Everyone is saying the 4.0 will stick around for the 992 GT3. No reason to worry here
Curious as to your thoughts about this vs the C8, I know of a PTS allocation that's available.
You have a VERY nice job, Matt. Keep up the good work ! That is a wonderful car....
I understand this video is a year old but I’ve just specc’d a 718 Spyder for delivery this year and I have to take issue with your comment at the end that the car you were driving ‘didn’t have much other than the PCCBs’.
That car had the following extras that I could see. Metallic paint (£1,600), Carbon seats (£3,000), extended leather & Spyder interior (£4,100) PCCBS (£5,000) parking sensors, interior accents painted body colour (£1,500), fire extinguisher (£200), individual climate (£300)
I was unable to get the car set up how I wanted it without adding almost £18,000 in options (including PCCBs).
Stunning; the most 'want' normal car for me right now.
Great Video Matt! Reminds me of Classic Matt Farah!
The Boxster is my dream car, in any year. Who needs the fastest car anyway?
I've never seen a Boxter Safari... that would be fantastic.
Dealers should just sell re-geard cars because that's just insane, I remember motortrend complaining endlessly about the gearing on the GT4
And yet the 2020 gt4 won evo coty. Same gearing. Same as gt3. Most faster cars are geared higher. It’s much ado about very little.
Awesome colour spec... lov the car and the video.... :-)
Car Matt drove is about $115K pre tax.
Damm.. That's Why the older models Make more Sense.
PCCB + Full buckets + interior trim in exterior color....and that's only the stuff I can see. $115k sounds about right.
TheSmokingTire do you all use Go Pro 8's?
Love the review! Can we get a review of the cayman GTS 4.0?
matt, how is the clutch effort compared to 981 Boxster Spyder?
but for similar price, would u pick the gt4 or this
Give me an exhaust and a 100k, can't think of a better drop top with a six speed. Love it in blue on silver.
I can't wait for spring to take my Spyder out from hibernation. SPRING please come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is there a way to delete the filter? there's gotta be, just like a muffler delete
US cars won't have it
I have one on order. Supposed to be getting it in April, May here in U.S. Apparently very limited. My dealership is getting only 1 allotment and guess who’s getting it :)
Any update on the parking structure?
You can also get the flat 6 in the GTS which I drove brand new. This is is a slightly detuned version of the spyder
Does the .2 gt3 not have equally long gearing?
Matt, I am waiting to see drive the new Corvette C8 on these roads!!
I lived in the Antelope Valley for 3 years with the Angeles National Forest and some of the best canyon roads at my disposal. Back in Texas now and it is the one thing I miss the most about SoCal. I hardly ever just go for a drive here like I used to living there.
Love this car.. I really hope everyone that buys one new or specs one does the bucket sport seats and not the base seats..
Love this Boxster, but the gearing would drive me nuts
Blah blah blah... In its third gear, you can drive it like an automatic... LOL!
Here in Germany its "gearing" won't be a problem at all... On the Autobahn you can drive it in all its six gears... The 718 GT4 and Spyder PDK versions will be out during this year... Shifting it with paddles will be more fun than with a six speed manual in the Californian canyons.
The gearing is the same as the GT3. I had a 981 cayman S and it was the same speed for 1-3 as a 991 GT3. I didn’t really notice the gearing too much after a while. The only time is if you’re really going for it, and even then I could top 3rd, which was fine for me
Yeah, this seems like perhaps the perfect modern Porsche except for that gearing. Was excited to hear about Sharkwerks doing a re-geared transmission to remedy that single flaw.
@Nicholas Fouch Agreed. When you are that close to perfect how could you not.
@@user-jf8gd3lv7q I disagree with everything you've said here so hard, haha. You buy this kind of car for driving engagement and enjoyment. Who gives a damn what it's like on the autobahn? I've had something like this before, where you were just in 3rd gear all day long unless you did stupid speeds, and it's no fun at all.
SmokingTire, this Spyder has the same torque as the 981 Spyder. Does that mean the pull off the line is the same between the two?
curious how the price on these will hold up compared the the GT4....
"The Cayman complex" lmao
A particulate filter? Does it have a Diesel?
Because of cars like this Boxster Spyder is why Porsche is one of my favorites
Beauty and The Beast, sounds and looks absolutely amazing, thanks for sharing yet another great piece of content.
Whats your thoughts on the 718 gts 4.0?
FYI for anyone watching this now (like 2022) the exhaust on this car *is* the same as the US and CDN models. The US cars aren’t louder, and have the same particulate filters.
What about 2020 usa models ?
I just got one
@@waltvancourt5052 the exhaust is the same - Porsche designed one exhaust system for the entire world, everyone got the particulate filters, some are monitored some not - congrats! I have one too, great cars
Sharkwerks can give You re-gearing for 3rd, 4rth, 5th and 6th. They don't have solution for 1st and 2nd because of how 2nd is placed on main shaft...
I have PS4S in my 981 GT4, only thing is the rears are 305’s
Matt, youve been talking a lot about this 125cc Yamaha scooter. Any way you can do a one take or review it?
Are those gear ratios there for emission compliance reasons? Seems crazy to have such a revvy engine but not be able to enthusiastically run thru the gears on the open road (legally!)
With the Cayman Complex, who is this car made/marketed for?
Drivers. This is an amazing drivers car.
981 Spyder was better for road use. It had much more oversteer due to narrower, non-UHP rear tires and "standard" suspension and did roll a bit more, which made it much more fun when you pushed it really hard on a windy road. 981 was just more of a riot, felt a bit more nervous, while this is more planted, understeers more (like a GT4) and therefore at least to me feels a bit more boring. That makes a good track car, but not always a good road car. 981Spyder was a bit more like a Toyota GT86 if you know what I'm all about.
Not even considering the sound.
Still seriously cool car, but if you have a 981 Spyder I strongly recommend driving the 982 before you buy it, maybe you do feel the same as I do.
that is a bad ass looking Boxster😳
Great review thanks! How does the gearing compare to the long gearing in the gt350R?
This is BEAST!
It looks sooo good.
Audiwan Kenobi I agree
Looks soooooo goood!!!!
ahhhh matt! u are one lucky sumableech! XD
nice shades bty