Another great video. You have a knack of explaining things plain and simple. I was just about Henrys' age when my father handed me some tools and said, "lets go to work". I'm 83 and still miss my Dad. We did so much together. I ended up being a Tool Maker. We built a house together, built and flew model planes, he taught me auto repair. Funny thing though, my father could do anything. He had a few occupations in his life but never did mechanical work for an occupation.
Thank you! I have a big 10 southbend lathe with this exact taper attachment. I haven't been able to figure out how to use it till today. Your wealth of information and tutorials are GREATLY APPRECIATED!!
Always great information. I own a telescopic taper attachment, all but the end mounting piece. I am not sure what it is from, but looks very similar to the SB. Is there a way to make this work on my Logan 955 ? Thank you again for the wealth of information you share with us all.
Planning tomorrow's machine shop class. It's about tapers, methods and taper attachments. So after 35 years doing this, I now know the difference between the two types. Never did until now, so thank you. And my Graziano lathe obviously has the telescoping variety. Interestingly, I don't need to unclamp anything to set DOC.
The Optivisor makes me grin. My high school BOCES shop teacher wore one every day. We became friends years later, and we both had Job Shops (I still do), and he still wore his Oprivisor in his home shop.......every day he was out there working. Brings back memories. I bought one at Harbor Freight a couple years ago just because of the relate. I never wear it. Nice Video!
That is good information for people in the market for a lathe. I don't think I've seen Henry since he was bundled up in a blanket on a top box. It must be great to have your family living so close to you.
Interesting video. I never knew that there were different types of taper attachments. Now I know and I'll talk about this subject like I know what I'm talking about. One more thing for me to discuss with my 5 year old grand daughter.
I want to see a series of videos with your teaching Henry. Starting with the most basic things. Driving a nail or turning a screw or whatever your judgement is. Parents could benefit from an example of how to introduce skills to their children. Where will our future machinist come from if we do not encourage it? Some thoughts for you to consider.
Sorry Mr Pete. Still having issues understanding how the cross slide doesn't jam up on the telescopic taper attachment if you dont undo the cross slide nut.Could you please explain?
Thanks Lyle, I'm in the process of fitting the Hafco TPA - 1000 Taper attachment to my AL - 960B lathe. The instructions are basically non existent. Due to your concise instructions I realise the unit as supplied is a fancy plain attachment or 7/8 of a telescopic attachment. I've had it new in stock for a couple of years after waiting about a year for it to arrive. It is quite a challenge to fit with nothing actually fitting. Thanks again.
2:10 - That's the one I have for my August 1960 Sears Craftsman Lathe. (I'm circa June 1960.) I've actually used it quite a few times... it comes in very handy. (I made my own Morse taper 1/2 point for a project... and it worked.)
Good video. I never knew about the plain taper attachments. I only have experience with my South Bend 13" with the telescopic taper attachment. Man, Henry is growing up fast! Thanks.
Nice video the telescopic part of the south bend is that the cross slide screw is keyed and slides at the hand wheel end of the feed screw so the brass nut does not have to be disconnected. Other than that Your video is correct
I bought a telescopic taper attachment for my Grizzly mill a few years ago. Was terrible and I eventually removed it. Still would love a long taper solution. Future project?
Henry inherits Grandpas tools, has estate auction, moves to Cabo San Lucas and lives like a King on the proceeds. Later: Needs to hang a picture on the wall, uses the heel of his shoe to drive the nail. Doh!
I can’t concur: Don't underestimate effects of the steam and machine virus. If exposed to it at an early age, the patient will never fully recover from its long-term effects, thus altering behavioral pattern on a sustained level for the rest of his/her life. All tho men are more prone to this problem, extensive studies concluded that also female specimen are prone to this desease, depending on the given exposure and circumstances. But as female need more exposure, and the a social dimension will also alter the rate of contagion (men usually need seconds to minutes to infect) females will sometimes develop even resistances, or even counter it with repulsive behavior patterns. Very fatal if the virus is contracted by the men, while already married to a women, it can lead to a very difficult situation, if said repulsive behavior manifests in his mate. Beside of the symptoms we observe in massing hording of tooling, the urge to keep them is also very prevalent. As is the excessive use of all kinds of oil, fluids and pastes used in a machine shop... The unwanted side effects will also accompany him, lack of time, constantly thinking of machining operations or a general short attention span for non-related topics. BUT, if infected early, and it seems, that is what happened, he will never end up, beating a nail with a shoe, i can assure you of that, neither is he going to sell toolings that are still usefull. Of which, a hammer is the essentials for a mechanic. You can fix any engine with it.... ANY!!!!!!! Diagnosis; long term, irreversible and non-treatable.
@@MrZhefish Yes I have this Virus. I got from my Father whom got it from his Father, I also think in my case it could be partially Genetic! Cheers from John, Australia.
please may you Sir tell me : what is the screw that is on the right of the cross slide for ? (there is a small hole in the middle and it may be for oiling .. but what about that screw on the right of it ?
Hi Mr Pete. I’m having a hell of a time removing the taper pin on my taper attachment on my SB 10L (1968). I removed the handle. There’s a hole on the side of the handle but it’s empty. Can’t see through it so I’m wondering what it’s for. But I can’t get that pin out. I’m tapping from rear to front. Is there something blocking it? Does the cross slide need to be in a certain position? There’s something I’m missing. What could be binding it up? Should I drill it out? I’m at a loss. Thanks for all your help. Paul
hi tubalcain, i have a south bend 9 in lathe with a plain taper attachment on it. I tried removing the screw right behind the tool post but the compound doesnt slide freely from the screw. any idea why?
This video is very interesting for the question i ask on the taper attachment you used on tip 71 video i will make a guess on the measurements the plain one ill try to make on my atlas just as on video 71 but the dovetail piece on cross feed i cant make well ill try but i have no mill and the plate you made with the app degrees on it is ? thank you Mr Pete for your videos well back to the making process have a nice day love to meet you but i live clear across the states Pa. Duane ( i didnt under stand your reply )
9:43 is your gib screw missing? Main thing to teach Henry is to always close a drawer after you open it. Sadly I know of a kid killed by his daddies toolbox because he opened too many drawers and the box flipped on him.
These are a bit more primitive, they can trace just the angles. There are tracers like Keith's (and other kinds as well) available - look for "tracer attachment".. RUclipsr Build Fix Create made one with pneumatics for a Logan lathe which looks interesting. The air provides a "spring" to push the follower against a pattern.
@@carneeki Actually the tracer attachments that Keith uses and all the ones I know about are driven by hydraulic oil pressure, the pointer that follows the model to copy has some kinda sensitive valve that will control the tool holder forward or backward, typical pressure is around 1000 psi in those systems, air would be too soft due to the fact it's compressible. I got one of those system, but it's not attached to my lathe though...
Yes, there was a fully mechanical tracer attachment made back in the late '40s/'50s that would trace a pattern. It was fitted on the front of the lathe and didn't involve the use of the taper attachment at all. It was difficult to set up and get a pattern correctly made. I've never seen one in the flesh, only photos. I've used hydraulic tracers and they work really well. The pattern can be lightly made as it doesn't take much force to actuate the sensor. The nicest one I ever used was built into a German engine lathe. The pattern mount was permanently attached to the back side of the lathe bed and had micrometer adjustments at either end of the bed to make easy adjustment of the pattern without having to loosen it and clamp it back down. It also had mounting centers so the first part made by hand could be used as a pattern for subsequent parts. CNC made tracers obsolete, but new tracers are still being made in India. Cheers from NC/USA
Hi Mr. Pete, Have you ever had the taper att. apart? We have (10) heavy 10 SBL's in our lab and the tailstock end has the graduations in inches per foot with taper in degrees at the head stock end....just wondering...not being critical...Thanks for your work helping others! Mark C.
wait that tube does not telescope. its the screw that telescopes in the part with the gear attached to the hand wheel. that tube is essentially a plain bearing
Watch this video of mine. Tubalcain summer special shop video courses. All the details for ordering are in that video, search for it. Thank you for your interest
How great is it that your grandson can look back in ten years and watch grandpa teach . Awesome to see how big he is getting thanks for sharing
Thanks
Another great video. You have a knack of explaining things plain and simple. I was just about Henrys' age when my father handed me some tools and said, "lets go to work". I'm 83 and still miss my Dad. We did so much together. I ended up being a Tool Maker. We built a house together, built and flew model planes, he taught me auto repair. Funny thing though, my father could do anything. He had a few occupations in his life but never did mechanical work for an occupation.
Must've been quite a man
Enlightened on the difference now ! Never paid that much attention to the differences of the two until you showed them this way.
Thank you!
I have a big 10 southbend lathe with this exact taper attachment.
I haven't been able to figure out how to use it till today.
Your wealth of information and tutorials are GREATLY APPRECIATED!!
Thanks
Always great information.
I own a telescopic taper attachment, all but the end mounting piece.
I am not sure what it is from, but looks very similar to the SB.
Is there a way to make this work on my Logan 955 ?
Thank you again for the wealth of information you share with us all.
Planning tomorrow's machine shop class. It's about tapers, methods and taper attachments. So after 35 years doing this, I now know the difference between the two types. Never did until now, so thank you. And my Graziano lathe obviously has the telescoping variety. Interestingly, I don't need to unclamp anything to set DOC.
👍👍
The Optivisor makes me grin. My high school BOCES shop teacher wore one every day. We became friends years later, and we both had Job Shops (I still do), and he still wore his Oprivisor in his home shop.......every day he was out there working. Brings back memories. I bought one at Harbor Freight a couple years ago just because of the relate. I never wear it. Nice Video!
👍👍
Great to see Henry. He looks like he will look after all those tools. Thanks for sharing
Always extra likes when Henry makes an appearance.
That is good information for people in the market for a lathe. I don't think I've seen Henry since he was bundled up in a blanket on a top box. It must be great to have your family living so close to you.
Helped me to understand the taper attachment for my 13" South Bend I am restoring. Thanks Tubalcain!
Glad it helped!
Mary was excited too see Henry !
He's getting big--isn't he? Henry says hi Mary
Interesting video. I never knew that there were different types of taper attachments. Now I know and I'll talk about this subject like I know what I'm talking about. One more thing for me to discuss with my 5 year old grand daughter.
Good job Henry! Keep an eye on those tools, don’t let anyone swipe them out from under you!
I want to see a series of videos with your teaching Henry. Starting with the most basic things. Driving a nail or turning a screw or whatever your judgement is. Parents could benefit from an example of how to introduce skills to their children. Where will our future machinist come from if we do not encourage it? Some thoughts for you to consider.
Sorry Mr Pete. Still having issues understanding how the cross slide doesn't jam up on the telescopic taper attachment if you dont undo the cross slide nut.Could you please explain?
Train e'm young, it's never too early... ;)
Those moments that you share with him feeding his curiosity, he'll remember for all his life...
Yes
Thanks Lyle,
I'm in the process of fitting the Hafco TPA - 1000 Taper attachment to my AL - 960B lathe.
The instructions are basically non existent.
Due to your concise instructions I realise the unit as supplied is a fancy plain attachment or 7/8 of a telescopic attachment.
I've had it new in stock for a couple of years after waiting about a year for it to arrive. It is quite a challenge to fit with nothing actually fitting.
Thanks again.
I am glad my instructions were helpful to you. Good luck on getting it to fit up, you can do it.
2:10 - That's the one I have for my August 1960 Sears Craftsman Lathe. (I'm circa June 1960.)
I've actually used it quite a few times... it comes in very handy. (I made my own Morse taper 1/2 point for a project... and it worked.)
Good video. I never knew about the plain taper attachments. I only have experience with my South Bend 13" with the telescopic taper attachment.
Man, Henry is growing up fast!
Thanks.
Looks like you might have a tool re-orginazer pretty soon. Nice explanation of taper attachments. Thanks!
Nice video the telescopic part of the south bend is that the cross slide screw is keyed and slides at the hand wheel end of the feed screw so the brass nut does not have to be disconnected. Other than that Your video is correct
Thanks for the demo. I will have to build a taper attachment for my lathe.
Great info, thanks for sharing Mr. Pete!
THANK YOU...for sharing. Henry is growing up fast, really wants to know what's in those tool boxes. :)
I remember when _he_ was in the tool box. :)
Nice simple explanation of the two types of taper attachments. Curious Henry.
Thank you Mr Pete.
Henry is a cute little guy. I can't believe he is 4 already. Gee.. I wonder where he got that love for tools? Have a great day.
I bought a telescopic taper attachment for my Grizzly mill a few years ago. Was terrible and I eventually removed it. Still would love a long taper solution. Future project?
Hey mrpete222! Which taper attachment type does Henry prefer?
ALL of them, and ALL the tools and machines as well. lol
Henry inherits Grandpas tools, has estate auction, moves to Cabo San Lucas and lives like a King on the proceeds.
Later:
Needs to hang a picture on the wall, uses the heel of his shoe to drive the nail.
Doh!
I can’t concur:
Don't underestimate effects of the steam and machine virus. If exposed to it at an early age, the patient will never fully recover from its long-term effects, thus altering behavioral pattern on a sustained level for the rest of his/her life.
All tho men are more prone to this problem, extensive studies concluded that also female specimen are prone to this desease, depending on the given exposure and circumstances. But as female need more exposure, and the a social dimension will also alter the rate of contagion (men usually need seconds to minutes to infect) females will sometimes develop even resistances, or even counter it with repulsive behavior patterns. Very fatal if the virus is contracted by the men, while already married to a women, it can lead to a very difficult situation, if said repulsive behavior manifests in his mate.
Beside of the symptoms we observe in massing hording of tooling, the urge to keep them is also very prevalent.
As is the excessive use of all kinds of oil, fluids and pastes used in a machine shop...
The unwanted side effects will also accompany him, lack of time, constantly thinking of machining operations or a general short attention span for non-related topics.
BUT, if infected early, and it seems, that is what happened, he will never end up, beating a nail with a shoe, i can assure you of that, neither is he going to sell toolings that are still usefull. Of which, a hammer is the essentials for a mechanic. You can fix any engine with it.... ANY!!!!!!!
Diagnosis; long term, irreversible and non-treatable.
@@MrZhefish Yes I have this Virus. I got from my Father whom got it from his Father, I also think in my case it could be partially Genetic!
Cheers from John, Australia.
MrZhefish I have it and am only 12 so does my uncle
Thanks a ton sir for this absolutely amazing and informative video 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you
As you move along with the telescopic attachment I would assume the crossfeed automatically moves in a Little to make the cuts follow the taper?
please may you Sir tell me : what is the screw that is on the right of the cross slide for ? (there is a small hole in the middle and it may be for oiling .. but what about that screw on the right of it ?
Hi Mr Pete. I’m having a hell of a time removing the taper pin on my taper attachment on my SB 10L (1968).
I removed the handle. There’s a hole on the side of the handle but it’s empty. Can’t see through it so I’m wondering what it’s for.
But I can’t get that pin out. I’m tapping from rear to front. Is there something blocking it? Does the cross slide need to be in a certain position?
There’s something I’m missing. What could be binding it up? Should I drill it out? I’m at a loss.
Thanks for all your help.
Paul
You may have to drill it out
A very interesting piece of information, thank you sir....NO rant...I love the rants?
Very interesting. Nice video
hi tubalcain, i have a south bend 9 in lathe with a plain taper attachment on it. I tried removing the screw right behind the tool post but the compound doesnt slide freely from the screw. any idea why?
How is the telescoping attachment better if you have to turn that lever to unlock, then lock every time you want to feed in deeper?
Thank you once again... never knew just how taper attachments worked...
I can imagine that patterns could also be traced?
nice info. looking for more machining videos
This video is very interesting for the question i ask on the taper attachment you used on tip 71 video i will make a guess on the measurements the plain one ill try to make on my atlas just as on video 71 but the dovetail piece on cross feed i cant make well ill try but i have no mill and the plate you made with the app degrees on it is ? thank you Mr Pete for your videos well back to the making process have a nice day love to meet you but i live clear across the states Pa. Duane ( i didnt under stand your reply )
Muy inteeesante senor Pete !
Tu eres un abuelo muy felice
From iraq helpfully
Hello From America
good lesson
Thank You my Good Man!
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9:43 is your gib screw missing? Main thing to teach Henry is to always close a drawer after you open it. Sadly I know of a kid killed by his daddies toolbox because he opened too many drawers and the box flipped on him.
Thanks for the explanation !!!
How does one separate cross slide screw from feed screw? Have telescopic. keyway with key but can't remove/
Have those ever been able to trace a model/template/stencil like Keith Fenners hydraulic one is able?
These are a bit more primitive, they can trace just the angles. There are tracers like Keith's (and other kinds as well) available - look for "tracer attachment".. RUclipsr Build Fix Create made one with pneumatics for a Logan lathe which looks interesting. The air provides a "spring" to push the follower against a pattern.
@@carneeki
Actually the tracer attachments that Keith uses and all the ones I know about are driven by hydraulic oil pressure, the pointer that follows the model to copy has some kinda sensitive valve that will control the tool holder forward or backward, typical pressure is around 1000 psi in those systems, air would be too soft due to the fact it's compressible. I got one of those system, but it's not attached to my lathe though...
Yes, there was a fully mechanical tracer attachment made back in the late '40s/'50s that would trace a pattern. It was fitted on the front of the lathe and didn't involve the use of the taper attachment at all.
It was difficult to set up and get a pattern correctly made. I've never seen one in the flesh, only photos.
I've used hydraulic tracers and they work really well. The pattern can be lightly made as it doesn't take much force to actuate the sensor. The nicest one I ever used was built into a German engine lathe. The pattern mount was permanently attached to the back side of the lathe bed and had micrometer adjustments at either end of the bed to make easy adjustment of the pattern without having to loosen it and clamp it back down. It also had mounting centers so the first part made by hand could be used as a pattern for subsequent parts.
CNC made tracers obsolete, but new tracers are still being made in India.
Cheers from NC/USA
Hi there
Could you do a video on some simple formalas for taper calculation??
Thanks
Hi Mr. Pete, Have you ever had the taper att. apart? We have (10) heavy 10 SBL's in our lab and the tailstock end has the graduations in inches per foot with taper in degrees at the head stock end....just wondering...not being critical...Thanks for your work helping others! Mark C.
Wow, that's a lot of southbound machines
Love the Bible reference!
Have you ever made one?
Thank you.
Thanks for sharing sir..
Love the tshirt mrpete222 .
wait that tube does not telescope. its the screw that telescopes in the part with the gear attached to the hand wheel. that tube is essentially a plain bearing
Please direct me where I can purchase your video shop courses. Thank You, Gerry,
Watch this video of mine. Tubalcain summer special shop video courses. All the details for ordering are in that video, search for it. Thank you for your interest
See if you can work Henry in a little more at times.
I would like to. He is not always this cooperative.
Pete, www.youtube.com/@brucetuckey7909 Corrected you 5 years ago but I don't think you saw his comment.
Wakodahatchee Chris
I have my doubts that you'll see me in your next video. I'll probably see you, but I doubt you'll see me.