•Amy is on the right track. •Cream needs to go on more adventures with Amy. •Rouge is on the right track. Place her on more treasure hunting adventures. •Blaze needs more stories focused around the Sol Emeralds. •Marine needs to go on more adventures with Blaze. I think it would be fitting that she has light powers. •Trip needs to come into the modern era.
I agree with all of this, minnuusss the Trip one, since Sonic Team seems to be (for now at least) keeping the classic and modern era separated. I personally love the idea of Trip being modern, especially since I feel like she’d survive as a character a lot longer than in the classic games, but we’ll have to see.
I definitely think Trip should come into the modern era. Specifically, I see her being paired with Knuckles. And they’d have their own unique dynamic similar to Amy/Cream and Sonic/Tails. She could be his apprentice/heir apparent to guarding the Master Emerald!
@@paoerfulone1089you might already know this but there was a comic with that concept for the 30th anniversary of Knuckles' creation. It's a really cute little story, the dynamic is done really well.
Sega has done a full pullback in the last decade because of that loud "Sonic and his shitty friends" trend that started back in the day for his games. They started making it mainly about sonic for nearly a decade after Sonic 06 so I wouldn't say the women themselves got cucked but the entire roster. Its only recently they started trying to bring his friends back into the fold. I am waiting on Sticks and Blaze myself. Cream got a good showing in that sonic dream team mobile game. Rouge will be good as long as they let Team Dark remain a thing. I love that trio.
Big facts. I think the ‘break from Sonic’s friends’ was a right move financially, but as a long-time fan, I hated only seeing characters I love in dialogue boxes for this long. We’re getting back to having more characters and development for said characters though, so I’m excited for the future. Team Dark for the win as well 🙂↕️
@@Jiggyx3 I think its worse when you realize how long they were benched for. Shadow wasn't playable after sonic and the black knight all the way up to Sonic Forces. Tails was from Sonic 06 to like Sonic Frontiers in the main timeline games aside from Sonic Mania and Sonic Origins. They really benched the entire crew.
Precisely and there are so many more examples. Omega? 06. Knuckles? Didn’t come back until Frontiers all the way from black knight . It’s frustrating, but right now we’re living in the timeline where all that frustration paid off and we can begin to have everyone else at the forefront.
@@Jiggyx3 Hopefully. I can see the struggle Sonic Team has with trying to incorporate this many characters. Sonic Heroes style of gameplay is pretty much the only way some times.
I feel like SA2 did a decent job with everyone but Knuckles. He didn’t really serve a purpose in the story until the very end with the master emerald chant ex-machine
Honestly, Blaze shouldve been part of the Main cast all along. I'm of course happy that they've had her appear in as many games as they could put her in, but 80-90% of that is putting her in the background. She has arguably the same capabilities as Sonic, shadow, and silver, including having a super form of her own, and she's not even playble after over a decade?! That's just ridiculous. Not to mention, both Marine, and especially Cream being perfect candidates as long-term sidekicks for her, only for neither of them to be utilized. Hell, she's one of the characters that helped solidify boosting being part of the games! If Sega and Sonic Team are capable of giving Shadow a whole game, and a whole year dedicated to him, then theyre capable of doing the same for Blaze. BLAZE! DESERVES! BETTER!
@@biohazardbin she's not in the main case when it comes to having higher importance to a story line. She used to have that importance for the Rush games, and for 06', but since then, she's been put back to being secondary or even background. Hell, she's been playable in more spin-off games than mainline games. What this video is mainly trying to say is that these characters deserve to have much higher importance than they've been given. Bigger roles in story lines, important writing choices, etc.
@@iamjesskingsley Because Blaze is a character from another dimension, from a game that many didn't play. If you want more from Blaze, read the comics.
This is honestly what has annoyed me about the franchise since the mid 2000’s, not to sound bitter but it’s just how they’ll introduce a new character, establish their skill and power or relationship with someone, and their backstory, make them seem major, then they either completely ignore said character, or do the complete opposite and suddenly change of what they’ve already established of said character, they really don’t know what to do with any characters that’s not Sonic or Shadow, and that “Sonic friends never mattered” criticism back in the day was just so dumb, I respect that Sega listens to fans but fans should not have had this much authority over their work, but the bad side of Sonic fans be so loud it’s pitiful lol
the IDW comics definitely help also in terms of highlighting the ladies a bit more, especially with the introduction of so many female characters like tangle, whisper, jewel, belle, surge, and lanolin. and the og cast is pretty solid too. amy in particular is the best she's ever been imo. IDW being canon now is def a step in the right direction, hopefully we'll see some of that characterization translate to the games more
@svturn9ne ooo I just did a video on the IDW ladies and the comic as a whole, so be sure to check that out! I agree with you though, and definitely like how most of the cast is handled, especially Surge and her struggles
Rouge has been watered down. Marine has been buried since Blaze can't be allowed to have her own side kick. Vanilla has been banished since "no blood relatives!" for the cute animal characters allowed. And the rest are "Amy's best friend"... like Trip, like Cream, etc.
Agreed. I love Silver, but I'll never be happy with the fact they took Blaze's side of the story away and made her into what many fans consider "silver's side-kick" when in reality she could easily have her own spin-off series. And so soon after her debut in Sonic Rush. It's a real shame
They’re equals and should always be treated as such. Do I think they should be this “intertwined duo”? Nah, but they have this sort of innocence and chemistry with each other that makes them adorable (platonically) together
@@Jiggyx3 I disagree Blaze was way better duos with Sonic in Sonic Rush as partners than she was with Silver in 06 she never got to do anything and in the end was sacrificed Silver better off to learn on his own like Blaze did as it was the best for her. Putting Silver and Blaze in my opinion was the worst decision Sega made one of many for 06.
I like to think that their dynamic would ideally be like Sonic and Knuckles. While they’re more than willing to team up sometimes, they still have their own stuff going on. I feel like IDW comics does a great job at this with both of them having separate stories with characters like Knuckles, Amy, or the Diamond Cutters.
3:01 idk why people keep taking Amy's teasing and playfulness in Heroes and other games seriously. When sonic himself knows Amy is just messing with him
That’s valid. In my many Heroes runs as a child/late teenager, I didn’t find anything too arduous with how she acted personally, but I can see how people view it as a regression of character. Retroactively, people can most likely understand it as flirty banter, but at the time they most definitely hated that all that SA1 growth “went out the door”
But It didn’t. In sa1 she learnt shat she can do more than just be in the adventures and participate in helping and that’s what she does in heroes. even if she had no love for sonic she would still be looking for him as “sonic” was the last one seen with her friends pets, she spends the game looking for them even after her encounter looking for them instead of him, and she is successful.
All true, but admittingly, Heroes does insinuate that after their fight with team rose, team Sonic did something crazy to get away from there. We don’t know for sure if Rose ever got a chance to ask Team Sonic about chocola and froggy
While Amy's growth in SA1 was great, I dont think she's necessarily a bad character in the games that use her more stock "fangirl" characterization. In a game like 06, while she's mostly just focused on chasing Sonic the whole time, she still manages to have some funny yet sweet interactions with characters like Silver and Elise, basically kickstarting the former's arc. When Silver's poised to defeat Sonic, she steps in and stops him, with Sonic sincerely thanking her instead of awkwardly getting away from her. She gets to break Elise out of Eggman's clutches, and she's there to help gather the Chaos Emeralds when the world goes to shit. I like that she's allowed to contribute to the plot in her own Amy way without just being buffed to everyone else's level. Thats why I also like her in Superstars more than Frontiers. Simpler isn't always worse, imo.
Nice take and you do have a point. 06 is one of the better showings since she kinda locks in once she realizes what’s going on around her. It’s just that I love heroes, but hate what they did to my girl there. The whole point of finding Sonic was to ask him about chocola and froggy, not forced marriage. I would’ve had team rose fight team Sonic a bit later in the story
I’ve always loved Amy as a character both old and new, I admit her fangirl days were a bit much but she really has grown since then and at the end of the day she always pulls through, and one thing that’s always been consistent about her character is she’s a caring individual, she basically is Cream’s big sister, her and Tails have a good bond with no trust issues whatsoever, her and Blaze are on great terms, her getting Shadow to hang out more is a seriously impressive accomplishment, and I absolutely love her friendship with Knuckles, she admires, cares, trusts and respects Knuckles to a high standard which has been shown in both Archie and IDW comics multiple times, it’s the fact he trains her in hand to hand combat in both modern and classic AND he trusts her to the point to protect the master emerald and she gets mad if Rouge steals from him, and she hates that he’s by himself all the time and wants him to see the gang more or just visits him to keep him company, even in bad games like Sonic Chronicles she’s super defensive over Knuckles and sees him as a great guardian, even her and Rouge are on much better terms than before but she wants sis to stop messing with Knuckles all the time, like bro she’s everyone’s bestie and it’s great, and idc what some angry Sonic fan on twitter/tumblr or Reddit says, Amy is a great character and always has been, and just because she’s more independent doesn’t mean she’s regressed, it means she’s growing, and Sonic as a franchise has always been about friendship and family, idk how they don’t get that lol
@superherochestsymbol1032 I think Amy’s character has had one of the better transformations, but in that same breadth, her consistency in how she’s shown to care for everyone in pretty much every entry is impressive. There’s rarely been a lapse in that department and she genuinely wants the best for all of her friends
@@zuwenakelley2079for one thing they can go super and the gender of the character going in a super form shouldn't matter it should be about how well they can control it or how to utilize the the full capabilities of what they can do like sonic.exe finish nightmare gave us that and yes they allow Amy cream and Sally to go in a super form to fight exterior for a while before losing like really it's not impossible for them to go into form at all better yet why not have Sonic train them to utilize the form better so they can better maintain it when they use it like you know if Sonic were to go off on its own adventures again that doesn't involve Earth he can just have his friends protect it
@ Burning Blaze is the exception to the rule. She is the guardian of her own set of different emeralds, and she is also her universe’s counterpart to Sonic. As far as the chaos emeralds go only male hedgehogs can canonically go super.
Its so fucking sad, considering Blaze used to be canonically considered equally as powerful as Sonic, which could have been a really cool concept to play around with
Tell me about it. Luckily she has moments in the IDW comics, but the kinda sauce she had was on display for the world to see back in the Rush games. I want better for her so, so bad.
Now that’s a game that would have my money out of my wallet so fast. If you haven’t checked out my Sonic RPG video, def give it a watch. Just based off of your comment, I have a feeling you’ll like it; ruclips.net/video/pivTTGQWLMk/видео.htmlsi=kMYNItD8VS_JdrzQ
Omg you’re right.. we totally overlooked her… 🥺 I bet she guards the Master Emerald while Knuckles is away, that’s why he’s able to join his friends on so many of their adventures.
Tikal will forever be the GOAT, and I’m glad that she at least gets some rep in spinoffs. Would be cool to see her and potentially Chaos back in some way though
@@Jiggyx3 Well the closest to Chaos coming back was the Perfect Chaos battle in Sonic Generations, Chaos in Lego Sonic Dimensions, and much disappointment Sonic Forces, but at least we got some lore involving Chaos’ connection to the Ancients in Sonic Frontiers.
Big facts. Hopefully the next mainline game doesn’t leave things as is, since in frontiers, they also mentioned how the chaos emeralds were called to earth by the master emerald somehow
It’s a crime that the mainline female characters haven’t gotten their own game yet, especially Amy. I feel like this would do them good in fleshing out their characters even more.
These are all (primarily) good characters, and I wish they were utilized more. Especially Blaze, who I understand why she wouldn’t become a MAIN part of the cast, but it would be cool to see her get some more important roles in the future. Maybe a game that takes place in the not really utilized Sol Dimension (seriously they have a whole other DIMENSION that they just don’t use). Maybe just giving Blaze her own game (we don’t have ANY spinoff games like Shadow the Hedgehog or Knuckles Chaotix that star female characters and I think Blaze would have a good game)
I'm very hopeful for Blaze, I remember when Kishimoto was on Twitter interacting with the fans. Some people asked him who was his favorite character he answered Blaze, and the way he talked about her made it sound like he had plans for her. There's also the fast friends forever campaign, wich indicated some characters that sega consider as at least somewhat important for the futur of the franchise, and currently the only characters who didn't had some kind of role in a recent games are Blaze and Silver, coincidence? I think not.
Kishimoto loves him some Blaze, that’s for sure. I wouldn’t be surprised if he does something major since he said that he wants to make a true Adventure-styled game as well
I need them to be playable as well so that that full expressiveness of their personalities can be felt through unlockable abilities. These have to FEEL like the characters we know and love
I am really glad this video came across my feed, and to answer one of your questions... For me personally, the main cast has always been Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Amy, the antagonist is Eggman (and whatever unholy abomination he's managed to unearth): that being said, I believe characters like Blaze and Shadow should definitely be recurring guest stars (as long as they don't make their appearances forced for the sake of fan service). As for Rouge: I would love for her to get her own storyline in a game that possibly dives into her origins and explains why she is the way she is. And as for Cream: maybe bring her back as a supporting character for any and all Amy side stories, because I love the big sis little sis vibes they have 🤗
I’m happy that you enjoyed the video! 😭 and I agree with all your points too. It’d be nice to get some variety of the characters that appear, but forcing them in has almost only ever lead to bad stories. A Rouge game would most definitely be sick though!!
When I was younger I've always wanted her to have her own spin game. Since she's technically an alternate version of Sonic, it would've been nice to see more of her world
@LivInSpace5162 truly an untapped well of potential that one cat is. I hope that a spotlight is out on her in the next few years because she so desperately needs it
@Jiggyx3 hear me out but I think there's a chance for her in the movies I already have theories that the 5th film will involve her and Silver it could mix elements from Rush and 06 I just want them to get rid of elise and give her storyline to Blaze
Call me crazy but, if the next main form sonic game follows sonic frontiers in any capacity, the return of cream, & blaze should be inevitable, amy said she's going on her own adventure to share her love with the world if they follow this , they should be back with her Honestly, Sega has the opportunity to do the dopest thing and use this as a means to make a amy rose spin off game finally
I’d love if the sequel to frontiers actually details the adventures everyone went on after the end of the Frontiers. It’d be dope to have all those branching storylines come back, full circle.
Bro, I don't know how this video no has more views. I'm from Brazil, you deserved more (Sorry if I write something wrong, I really don't know speak English, I just know the basic and I'm not using the Translator)
Hey I appreciate that you saying that! It’ll have more in due time i hope😭 And no worries! Everything you typed out is understandable 🙂↕️ thanks for watching and I hope you stick around!
I don't think many Sonic fans aware how wasted Rouge is, she might be most prominent female after Amy, but even with her inclusion, she feels like just there and not anything interesting done with her, getting feats on her own to make her character more memorable. She also very watered down nowadays, she's overly friendly and very nice, yeah I got that she's not evil, but I do miss her cunning double agent side.
@pokiedokie1424 he relationship to GUN only just started being relevant again and I hate that. She’s like a(n) on again, off again, member of team Sonic whenever they need another slot for something, but that should’ve been going to only Cream
I’d argue that most of Amy’s characterisation pre the 2010s was fine & true to Sonic Adventure (if slightly exaggerated). Her character arc in Sonic Adventure is proving she can be independent & can keep up with Sonic & the others (also proving herself to Sonic). Most of the games from the 2000s stick pretty true to that. I actually think her characterisation’s a bit off now & not nearly as interesting
I can see how you’d feel that way. I know a lot of people believe she’s been built up as a pseudo sally acorn, but I don’t think that’s it. To me, it’s felt like a natural progression of a young woman growing up and realizing there’s more to life than just boys.
I miss Cream and Cheese being main characters, they added such a soft and sweet touch to the series. They're my absolute favorites (along with Tikal). 😢🩷
I think there’s still hope for them! Sonic Dream team is canon after all, and the master emerald showed up as a “teaser” of sorts in Frontiers, so a Tikal comeback could eventually happen!
>The Women In the Sonic Franchise Deserve More I haven't seen the video yet, but the female anthro characters of the Paramount Sonic movies (other than Longclaw) deserve to exist in the first place.
You, my friend, are onto something here. Check out my “Sonic Shouldn’t Exist” video for a synopsis of just why some of the female characters exist. I don’t touch on Longclaw in that video, but I hope we get a bit more of here somewhere soon because she literally just came and went
English is not my native language so I'll try my best lol. But when we're talking about female characters in Sonic universe, it kinda pisses me off we still don't have any female characters in Paramount movies (yeah, I know Maria and Maddie are there but I'm talking about anthro girlies obviously). I don't get the fact we're about to get the THIRD movie already and still there is no anthro girl. Don't get me wrong, I'm super excited to watch the movie but I lost it when we got an information that Team Chaotix is about to get their own series, yet we know NOTHING about the female cast and I hate that many fans are acting like Amy and Rouge are not important. I may sound dramatic but as a female Sonic fan it's kinda heartbreaking.
No worries! I got everything that you were trying to say ☺️ I’m with you though! I have a strange feeling that Rouge will be in movie 3 somehow. I don’t know if it’s me being delusional or what, but I genuinely feel as though she will
If i were in charge of Sonic Team or at least having a female focused game, I'd bring back the storybook games ans start with Amy as Dorothy in a Wizard of Oz themed game. Rouge or Cream could be Glinda and either Surge from the IDW comics or a new humanoid witch as the Wicked Witch and have Sonic as the Scarecrow, Omega as the Tin Man, Eggman as the Wizard, a Chao as Toto and either or both Tails and/or Knuckles as the Cowardly Lion. Amy would be a homesick farm girl who uses her hammer to be independent while also having friends supporting her along the way. I always wanted a Sonic-Wizard of Oz game
You my friend, just cooked up something delicious. That sounds like it’d be a fun time all around! Especially if it went deeper into the lore of Oz outside of the original movie
11:36 There’s definitely a lot of behind the scenes context going on here for Shadow and Rouge to get so close within a short about of time (3 days I think?) I think they both developed soft spots for each other during this time, but as a game they fast forward to they mainly show pre-stage post-stage cutscenes… but I also notice they both carry the same dismissiveness towards Eggman afterwards in later games.
They’re twins fr. Rouge probably not understanding why Shadow risked his life for her is what led her to not straight up blowing the lid on the whole operation. For Shadow, those small sparks of Maria memories are what prompted him, but he could’ve easily ignored it.
I’d love for *all* the characters we love to come back in a mainline sonic game and either have interconnecting stories like the Adventure games, a team up style like heroes just better lol, or just as multiple playable character options with their own story tweaks like in the advance games. The possibilities are endless and I hope sonic team are finally learning that we don’t want games where you solely play as sonic all the time. His cast of supporting characters are super interesting visually and story wise and all deserve time to shine
I feel like individual “stories” such as the advanced series would be sooooo good and easy to do (I’m not a developer lmao). Either that, or give me a huge game that takes a while to complete and brings everyone necessary in
Knuckles Adventure......co-starring Rouge the Bat! Their abilities with treasure hunting are so fun and versatile that Sonic Team could easily let them star in a winning game. Have them be partners or rivals that run parallel in the adventure.
Canonize is a word, that exists. It mainly means being declared a saint, but considering the whole concept of canon comes from the same context, it should be fine to use here.
Blaze should get her own game not added to her Sonic's world. She has her own world use it Sega. Also give Sliver his own game he's from future so that has great potential.
There are so many stories that could be created with almost all the cast that’s it’s frustrating 😭 Things are starting to turn around though, so I really am hopeful (knocks on wood)
Nice video. I think Sonic has always presented female characters fairly well. I'm a little surprised that characters like Tangle, Whisper and Surge didn’t get mentioned from the IDW comics, although they aren't what the general public will see or take much notice of when it comes to Sonic as a whole, so I understand. I haven't read the comics myself but from what I've heard and watched on RUclips, they're well rounded, in depth characters that are liked. Hopefully they'll appear in the games and break the historically separated comic and game line up formula.
Some of the fan stories about these characters should be considered canon. I’ve seen so many amazing ideas that are so well done, that I’m starting to consider them in Sonics world.
I feel like Blaze should be their when their is an big threat she doesn't really seem like the person to just hang out with people. Maybe they could bring the girls back in a game like an spin off game where they have their own campaigns.
Respectable. I know Blaze’s popularity is very high even though she hasn’t been around much. With the direction we’re going, let’s hope we get something with her in it soon, even if it’s not a huge story
I think Amy is at her best character wise when she's focused on helping others and the love for Sonic is a secondary goal. As for Blaze SEGA needs to figure out if shes from a different dimension or from the future. Sonic 06 IMO should be rewritten to have some Eggman Nega scheme be the thing that she goes to the future for. I'd hate for the Rush series to be the one that gets retconned out but considering she remembers 06 (for some reason) in the Sonic Generations game I'm kinda giving up hope that she'll get anything resembling a conclusion to the whole 2 Blaze origin non-sense. Rouge for the most part is fine. Being the glue that holds Team Dark together is a good role for her. Also I think her being the one to try and get Shadow to be more sociable is good. An origin story for her would be nice but not necessary and I probably wouldnt ever expect to get one. Overall, she's probably the best character-wise out of everyone mentioned here. I think the rest of the characters you mentioned that I havent are mostly fine being side-characters. However I would like to see important and loved characters from the IDW comics like Tangle and Surge make their way into a mainline game since fans seem to like them and I think someone like Surge who is kinda brash, arrogant, and morally grey would be great contrast to all of the female characters we've gotten. The only comparison I can make when it comes to playable characters for her is Shadow and I dont even know if they've talked in the comics. There would be plenty of opportunity for that if they made a Team Hero and Team Dark story that had her and Kit on Team Dark.
Love your response to the video and I thank you watching so we could discuss this! I agree with the Amy statement 110%. She’s been around long enough that everyone knows she’s mad for him, so that should no longer be her only trait. She’s possibly the most morally correct person in the series (aside from cream), and gives everyone a chance, which is why a lot of fans gravitate towards her. Plus, in-series, when she’s not all about Sonic, it actually throws him off and he’s more inclined to flirt with her, a-La IDW comics. No backstory for Rouge still has me a bit bummed though. You’re right, it may not be necessary, and maybe she doesn’t have a backstory because she genuinely doesn’t need one(?) she’s just a badass spy with a quirk for jewels lol. Rouge does play her role for Team Dark extremely well though like you said. For the current, IDW-only characters, wholeheartedly agree with you and, not to spoil anything, but I’m working on a video that covers a few of my gripes with how IDW is handled game-lore wise. Definitely stick around for that because I’d love to hear your thoughts on it
@@Jiggyx3 "Plus, in-series, when she’s not all about Sonic, it actually throws him off and he’s more inclined to flirt with her, a-La IDW comics." Yeah thats something I've noticed too and generally I think she's a pretty good character-wise in IDW. "I’m working on a video that covers a few of my gripes with how IDW is handled game-lore wise." My gripe is that we havent seen any of them in a mainline game XD
I actually love their banter in IDW, but yeaaah I feel you on that. IDW becoming canon did happen not that long ago though, so fingers crossed something is cooking for us soon
Blaze can be both. Considering the ending of 06 is her fading away and she had a fire god like being inside of her they could easily have it to where after she fade away she arrives at a new dimension and a story starts there.
They finally brought back Cream and Rouge after a decade of negligence. I hope Blaze is next in line for her long-overdue resurgence. Maybe even have her reunite with Cream, since she was the one to cause Blaze to open up more to others, and their friendship was just really sweet. Considering the Rush games basically originated the boost gameplay that's still used to this day, it'd be easy to make her playable in a new game by just giving her a similar moveset that she had in the Rush games. I'd love to see a new story with Blaze in the spotlight.
Blaze is such a cool character that came in with a bang for the Rush series. She’s just this ball of ideas and potential that were never fully realized, so I hope that changes
Literally a golden lineup of female characters. Someone for just about everyone. If only sega would reconize that and let us see more of them. Shoutout to all the best characters trapped in idw comic jail. Or worse, the archie void.
You get it! I have just the shoutout for the IDW characters coming tomorrow morning at 11:30 AM PST if you’re interested in hearing my thoughts on them👀
I think the biggest problem with incorporating Blaze into mainline games is her inconsistent backstory. The Writers can’t seem decide if they want her to be Princess of another Dimension, Sonic’s ruined Future, or a combined version of both somehow, and beyond that placing Blaze at all in a Alternate Dimension or Timeline makes it hard to justify bringing her into the story. How do they even go about communicating with her? I think the easiest outcome is for them to put Blaze permanently in the Future with Silver, and just have her come back when Silver comes back, which, deciding when Silver should come back for games is a whole nother ball game.
I know at the beginning of IDW, Blaze mentions that the Chaos Emeralds act as a beacon for the Sol Emeralds. As in the CE let the SE know when something is wrong in Sonic’s world and that’s how Blaze knows that they need help
Man I really want Blaze to be somewhat important again. Just have her be playable PLEASE. She has similar speed to Sonic anyway so it’s not like she can’t fit in the boost style Oh and as for her appearance in 06, while yes it was mostly due to irl reasons, there IS a canonical reason. At the end of Sonic Rush, the two eggmen with the Egg Salamander create a time-space rift. After the battle, we assume Blaze is going back to her home dimension, but she ends up in the Future with Silver instead. Then at the end of 06, she absorbs Iblis, and tells Silver to “seal us in a different dimension”. And miraculously the next time we see her is in Sonic Rush Adventure, back in her home dimension (which means she still has Iblis inside her too)
@@Jiggyx3 I don’t know any specific videos talking about Blaze’s story. Due to Rush and 06 people are just generally confused about her story. But if we go to Ian Flynn’s podcast, he’s mentioned Blaze a few times, like how she’s NOT from the future, and from another dimension. 18:57 timestamp ruclips.net/video/iI-9RLmfnUY/видео.htmlsi=zwzRN1LmXSutToq4 Ian asked a question about Mephiles’ possible return and how Blaze still has Iblis. 1:21:40 timestamp ruclips.net/user/livehmWDcysXVzA?si=JCzaz0kJwcmSaLSR
Blaze is my second favorite sonic character only being behind the blue blur himself. I would sell my organs for a standalone blaze game or at least a duo game with silver
While I've yet to read them, the IDW comics seem to be doing a good job, even introducing new notable girls like Tangle, Whisper and Surge. It seems to be an all boys club in the Paramount movies though. Somehow you mentioned Shahra and Merlina but left out Elise and Sage entirely. Also Shade the Echidna from Chronicles, although we're not gonna see her again thanks to the iffy rights situation.
Stay tuned for a video on the IDW girls this Thursday! I left out Elise and Shade due to the circumstances of their games. While Sonic Team did acknowledge Elise with that calendar graphic of her and Silver, I don’t think we’ll see her again 😔
It’s also notable to say that while all of sonics friends did kind of ‘fall off’ due to the games only featuring sonic, the hype around the male cast members allows them to appear much more often than the women, Amy and rouge are the only two who regularly appear in projects, and even then more people want silver in the next sonic movie over Amy or rouge, Amy is included always to be “the girl” character on the team, and it makes her extremely 2D, people do tend to like rouge more but it’s almost always in a very objectifying way, to be fair she is made to be “sexy” but still it’s not right, she has “team dark” going for her as they are a fan favorite team, everyone loves shadow and usually she’ll be chasing him although similar to Amy, she’s included in artwork and other media as “the backup girl” to show that Amy isn’t the ONLY girl! Nonono we have TWO girls! Cream fell off, cream fell off hard. Cream was a member of the core cast, if something had sonic she was in it, she was essential to the series and even a face of the series, I think her fall off started with sonic 06, a game that had the entire main cast except for cream, big, and the chaotix, and while no one missed or wanted to play as big, the chaotix are a extremely well constructed team who are overall pretty well liked but not favorited Cream was kinda just, an outlier, her being excluded from that game still kinda confuses me as she could’ve fit in there in many ways, after that game flopped all of sonics friends became- exactly that “Sonics dumb friends” which consisted of team dark team chaotix silver and Amy, sometimes blaze too! Cream though was forgotten and left at the bottom of the list when it comes to characters who need to be in game, one way I think they could probably bring her back would be to actually make a good team rose, it never made sense why big would be running around with Amy and cream and in team rose’s story it’s written as a extension to team heroes’ story, when you add that plus their very very easy gameplay I can’t say I’ve ever heard anyone say their favorite team is team rose, there’s a number of characters they could bring from the other games or even the idw comics to fill this spot big leaves, On a other note, Wave from the sonic riders games is a character who I think could really use some more, that goes for all the Babylon rogues, Jet Wave and Storm were such fan favorites when the rider games were out but unfortunately they just got the cut after, staying characters from spin-off games, I think she already gets points for being a female villain in the sonic games, but also because she’s actually written very well, the dynamic with the Babylon rogues is very strong, whereas with team rose the dynamic is shakey and not confident in itself, the Babylon rogues each have their clear purpose and role and interact with each other accordingly, it’s clear these guys are close but love to get on each others nerves, it’s especially crazy how excluded they’ve become when you look at sonic spin offs, having released MULTIPLE CART RACING TITLES, the characters who’s entire purpose was TO BE RACERS have yet to debut in any of them Marine is a character sega really could use, on the topic of cart racing titles the most recent one (team sonic racing) was very…messy, in terms of its roster, the games still very much follow a “team” structure where there’s teams of three, one speed, one flight, one strength Silver and Blaze are excluded from a lot of these games, OR, they’re included but now the balance is thrown off because they need a third member, in sonic free riders (ew) they didn’t get their own story BECAUSE of this reason, so hmm let’s think is there a friend silver or blaze have from their dimension, who has the spunk and the attitude to fill the role of a strong character, who could be their third? Clearly not since sonic team hasn’t put it together Ignoring her as a person, marine is essential in a lot of ways when it comes to their dynamic, a “team future” featuring Blaze silver and marine would be great, if they could make that sort of friendship work then it’d definitely bring forward Blaze and Silver along with their lil buddy, as the teams in sonic tend to have one younger character on them (Never getting over them putting Big, Zavoc, and even 4 chao In team sonic racing over cream)
Cream’s fall-off will be studied for generations to come I’m sure of it. I like team rose as a concept, since it’s usually just whoever Amy can convince to go on an adventure with her. While this typically includes Cream most of the time, there have been several interactions of Team Rose, even with Blaze on it. As for the Blaze & Silver team up, it’s have to be someone with projectiles like them imo. If we’re to pull from all sources, I can see maybe a forced-in Espio l, as he and Silver actually have a good relationship. If not him, then maybe Marine(?) like you said to give Silvaze shippers a faux child for them to take care of. Team Sonic racing was such a regression in many ways. Still fun, but Zavok and the Chao didn’t need to be in there. They could’ve had the Chao drive cream around honestly lmao
@Jiggyx3 Yes! Give her her own game, and let Cream come along for the ride. And Marine of course. Huh, it just occurred to me that Marine's name follows the elemental theme that Blaze does, but for water. We clearly need a rock girl and an air girl to round out Blaze's team.
Imagine if they did a classic 2d style Blaze game, running with the idea of Blaze being Sonic's counterpart, in another universe, she was the heroine of a series of platform games of varying quality until Blaze Rush introduced Sonic, a male hedgehog who's het counterpart in another world who got a cult following but has only appeared in a handful of her games.
I never noticed that parallel between Marine and Blaze, so good catch! Also it’d be so cool to see the chain of events Blaze went through leading up to Sonic Rush
How'd all the canon girl Mobians have looked like without any clothes except shoes, socks, gloves, and(sometimes) headwear? Imagine growing up in a parallel universe. How'd all of you have thought about it from your altered memories, experiences, and POVs?
Respectable, buuut I will cover Wave and a couple of other notable names I forgot in a later video since there were too many to do in one palatable sitting 😭 I still gotta cover Honey the Cat, Wave, Lanolin, the whole nine.
@ThyKosmikTym Always love me some Riders. I'd even go so far as to say she's the most interesting out of all the Babylon Rogues. Tech is her thing, but her being a parallel to Tails and even being slightly better than him in the Extreme Gear department made me love her. The charisma is a nice bonus too lol
Sonic X Shadow Gens would have been a great way to have more characters return like Marine since Blaze shows up, why didn't she get invited to the birthday party 😢
To that first point, while you are correct, it didn’t feel “right” for me personally to say “females” in the title due to some people taking the term in a derogatory context, and saying “girls” felt like an injustice to the older members of the cast. As for the Tikal addition, I’d argue that her story/context surrounding her character has been resolved. The same could be said about Marine and maybe even Cream, but the spot Marine takes up was more so about characters that haven’t had a dedicated spotlight on them.
@@Jiggyx3Eh female would've been okay because in this context it's not derogatory or anything, just a descriptor of the character's traits. They're more than just being female, but that doesn't mean they aren't still..you know being potrayed as female. But I feel like girls fits better since the only characters that really are shown to be adults are just Rouge and Vanilla (Wave too actually?). Cause it feels weird calling Amy, Blaze, Cream and Marine women when they really aren't. I wouldn't like call the male Sonic characters men lmao- I don’t really consider Sonic a man in any way, at best just a guy who likes adventure.
@bobtheball5384 I appreciate that take. Just had to be careful on my end not to upset too many folks lol. At the end of the day for me, they’re just animals lmao
blaze and marine DEFINITELY need to return in another rush game. its such a missed opportunity to not bring those games back considering how much everyone enjoyed them and still do-to this day!! the two of them are wonderful characters and i reallt wanna see the sol dimension get more fleshed out…i miss the soundtracks…they should also make an idw spin off comic for blaze’s anniversary this upcoming year, hopefully that would mean they retcon blaze defeating all her enemies/give her more
@soulsearchinp I like that idea! Blaze deserves a game just as much as anyone else that people are suggesting get a year to themselves. I know that comics are indeed one of the main ways they celebrate these characters now, so Marine popping up in a Blaze one-shot would be fire and make sure she’s canon again 😭
To be honest after seeing the shadow generation to be honest It felt like it gave me more hope that, they returned back to what they used to be I love Amy interpretation from sonic adventure where she is still obsessed with sonic but doesn't mean she can't help herself either same with some other female characters.
Yessssss! I feel like no one BUT Shadow could open the potential doors for everyone else. Amy’s characterization has made a return to form recently as well and I’m happy
Cream began to be cut and wasted from Sonic The Hegdehog 2006 onwards. Fortunately, Cream returned to the games in Sonic Dream Team and she has a lot of use in the IDW comics. The hate of Marine The Raccoon is very awful and stupid, because Marine is "annoying" because MARINE IS JUST A 7 YEARS OLD CHILD! Every child is annoying because children are naturally hyperactive, agitated and childish and they need support from parents or older adults responsible. Cream and Charmy are "annoying" (hyperactive, agitated and childish) because they are children and some people loves those characters. Actually, Sonic always took advantage of the cast of characters in mainline games and portable games, but the Sonic cast began to be cut and wasted from Sonic Unleashed (This is without a doubt, the WORST FLAW of Sonic Unleashed), however, Sonic Colors (Wii) was the main responsible to kept the cast issue of Sonic Unleashed and got worse the Unleashed's cast issue, cutting the humans in Sonic games and mischaracterizing the characters. Fortunately, Sonic Frontiers fixed the Unleashed's issue that was maintained by Sonic Colors and the was until Sonic Forces. Even with the Sonic cast issue in Sonic Unleashed, I love this game but is NOT the GOAT of franchise (For me). I think the Sonic Adventure 1 and Sonic Adventure 2 are better than Sonic Unleashed. I'm brazilian. Edit: Jiggy, I knew that the main reason that made the Sonic games discard the characters' appearances was also the news media.
You make very valid statements, but the “I’m Brazilian” has me dead lmao. You hit the nose on a lot of points and I agree with the child characters getting way too much hate for acting as they “should” or “would”
@@Jiggyx3 I said I'm Brazilian because I'm not completely fluent in English and Spanish. Can you make a part 2 of this video adding characters like Vanilla The Rabbit, Trip The Sungazer, Wave The Swallow, Tikal The Echidna and Shade The Echidna? And can you make another video like this talking only about the female Sonic characters in the comics?
I caught the gist, but no worries! I understood your comment fully and appreciate you even leaving one ☺️ I like the idea of those two prompts you gave out though and will definitely look into doing so! There are so many under-utilized women in this franchise that it hurts
Marines hate for being "annoying" is dumb once you realize she isnt even voiced, its all text lol. I found her quite charming and funny with that aussie accent and would love to see her grow to become a sweet pirate captain.
@ORLY911 She always came off as just a super excited kid that wanted to help out. We’ve all been there before, and most of us were probably kids when we played Tush Adventure, so I don’t get peoples hate lol
I noticed that misstep way too far into post production and was hoping no one noticed lol. Ya got me, but it’s a learning moment for myself , so thank you
You want to know something? Amy did have something important in 06 And good news she does not seem that crazy for Sonic and piece of an important role is when it comes to Silver where she had to talk to him
She was very much so the anchor of that game in more ways than one, and she usually is! They may seem like small dialogue scenes, but the impact is almost always felt much later in the same game!
@Jiggyx3 It's honestly fantastic writing Though everytime there is a game with ambition some reason they had to fail Sonic 06 is one of them and a game I found than had alot of ambition is Devil May Cry 2 Both games are ambitious and they had failed in a really tragic way Something that would've been fantastic then had to had their hands tied behind their backs from using their full potential And I want to see them have another attempt at games with that potential too as a remaster
Ahhhh the DMC 2 ambition is what kills me. Especially since the first one was so, so nice. I think it could def use the remaster treatment, but it'd take a lot of selling of 'We swear it's different' on Capcom's part to get people to buy it. Phenomenal comparison though!
@@Jiggyx3 I honestly would trust them Mistakes in the past can be learned and I am sure they had learned it I will say I wish ambitious games had their full potential too one series I can mention is the Soulsborne series They have so much cut content and they end up as good games but I really wish that any ambitious game just finishes fully
14:15 She hasn’t been canonised, as the mention of her is more of an Easter egg reference for western audiences. In the main Japanese script and dialogue of Sonic Frontiers there is no mention of her.
I disagree that Sonic Heroes was backpeddling her development. Granted it's been years since I played it, but for me while she still flirts with Sonic, it's more mature and more in a teasing way, and it's not the driving force for her it once was. She's now leading her own team on an adventure and is a hero in her own right with Cream and Big along, too. I can't see pre Adventure Amy being like that. I can't speak for 06 as I've never been able to get far in the game and I can't remember Chronicles well enough. I did like her in Frontiers though and I hope we get to see more of her and the others in the future!
You make fair points honestly. I mentioned it to someone else, but I definitely think Team Rose should’ve fought team Sonic much later in the story instead of after 4 levels. Amy could’ve relayed the info to Sonic that Shadow was alive, only for team dark and team Sonic to still fight because why not lol. Going back to Amy specifically though, it’s true that she’s gone through some much needed growth over the past couple of years, and it’s good to see that her character is (almost) fully realized
If they make Blaze relevant again, I hope that they restructure her world. I found it very...uninspired in Rush Adventure especially when the map was effectively only inhabited by Koalas and Polar Bears of all things. It felt like an afterthought that was never properly fleshed out. The fact that she is a princess from another dimension really does hold her back from being one of the main characters in the Sonic franchise. Without retconning her character, this isn't something that can be easily changed unless Sega goes the route of the IDW comics where she literally has nothing to do in her dimension which is at peace. The sceptre in Rush Adventure keeping their worlds apart is...kind of lame in my opinion. I think a story where the worlds collide would be really interesting and allow for Blaze to be more accessible. Maybe if they actually attempt to remake '06, they could change the story to make Blaze and her dimension more relevant such as her connection with Iblis and its connection to "SOLeana" and "SOLaris". I'm really curious if this was just a coincidence since Sonic Rush and '06 were in development around the same time. Remaking '06 would be a colossal undertaking and I don't think Sega would be able to pull it off though. They did bring back Mephiles for a cameo so it has at least been acknowledged (Shadow's story in '06 is obviously a highlight of that game. I've only played a little bit of P-06 simply because the game gives me motion sickness, but a lot of people say they actually liked the level design in that game at least). Blaze is in a tough spot. She is really inaccessible because she both comes from another dimension and she has royal responsibilities that tie her up over there. I don't think these issues can be easily fixed to make her appear often. She needs an excuse just to appear in Sonic's dimension.
It’s funny that you mention Blaze’s world colliding with Sonic’s to make her more of a mainstay. I actually covered that back in this video: ruclips.net/video/-4S46Mw3myM/видео.htmlsi=Uet-uSYgRxBWW-Ox I need Blaze to get another chance so bad
Its a shame blaze doesn't give more attention. Not only does she have enough lore to get her own game, but she literally the only female (besides surge), that can remotely keep up with people like sonic, shadow, knuckles and silver in a fight Also, are you excited for the next arc in idw coming out early next year? Its going to have the Dimond cutters, silver, sonic, blaze, mimic and clutch as the main focus. Also, final issue for the current arc comes out this month
Blaze is forever that girl I will say. And yeah I’m excited! I’ve been waiting for the riders arc to conclude so I can finally finish that out and then it’s full steam ahead. I’m all for it
(Not sure why my first comment disappeared, but eh... I'll do another one anyways. :P) I'm with ya: Blaze needs to be playable again. She is My Favorite Sonic Character and My Favorite Female Sonic Character as a result, hence why I have a long standing dream for her. ^^
BLAZE NEEDS HER OWN GAME GIMME She's genuinely my favorite character in the whole franchise and maybe it's because I just have a habit of liking female characters more, maybe it's because I like cats, maybe I just like her fiery spin dash being so cool or that Rush was my first DS game and I couldn't put it down because I just loved playing as her so much. She's just a cool character and I really like her. Out of all the existing women, while yes Rouge is a close second, Blaze is the only one who is genuinely an *equal* to Sonic in both speed and strength. She genuinely deserves her own games and has so much potential. I'm probably bias.
I just wish we got some more female villains. When I think of Sonic villains, I mainly think of the male ones like Eggman, Infinite, Zavok and the only female villains I can think of from the games are Heavy magician and rider (apparently they all have genders and these are the only female ones.), Zeena, Sage and the mentioned Merlina. And aside from Sage, they aren't really that memorable to me Also can we talk about how Zeena is the only one of the deadly six to have a simple and copy pasted seductive body type that a bunch of female sonic charaters have while the guys got unique designs. It's the same problem with pokmeon villains. There are no female villains other then Lusamine and she wasn’t even evil, just under the effects of poison and was reformed. Even in the IDW comics there are more male villains like Starline and Mimic and the only female villain in IDW is Surge and she's getting reformed. Is SEGA afraid people will think of them as sexist for having a bad woman charater? I know Archie had some evil women but I never got around to reading them so I can't comment too heavily on them but at least they tried TL;DR gimmie some bad girls SEGA and make them good
That’s what I’m sayyiinngggg. I know SEGA as a whole has a thing with their IP characters beating up women, which is good, BUT that shouldn’t stop them from having a villain be a pure villain for the love of the game. Let’s see a bad girl who stays a bad girl and puts up a challenge for the heroes
Out of all the female characters Blaze really has getting the short stick and the most disrespect from Sega we still don’t know anything about her world or the furthest of her abilities in the mainline games plus yes she’s deserves to be an Main Character definitely not an side kick or character. If Edgie can get an whole dang year event label around him I hope and pray Blaze gets that love and attention. I want her to like she was in the rush games and never like 06 they butchered her character in that game. Plus hope to see her in the movie verse some day. 💙💜🔥🌪️
Oooo that’s a deep cut right there. Earned my respect for that one lol. I do hope the chaotix get some fleshing out if they are to be in the Knuckles’ show 2nd season.
Unfortunately Amy’s recent retcon in shadow generations has brought her from maturing to generic. Without the stuff that made her interesting and nothing to take it’s place outside the comics she’s exactly what you’d assume she is, the pink one.
Well we’d do have to look at the fact that Shadow gens still takes place in the “past” at the same time that the original Sonic gens did. Technically she hasn’t had her a Frontiers growth yet
I know this is focusing on the games. But I do feel this vid is missing something by not talking about the shows and comics. If you are not reading or watching them, that is fine. However, this subject feels incomplete without discussing the chars there.
@scofisticated it’s a good thing that I followed this video up with this one; ruclips.net/video/W-gHX88inUQ/видео.htmlsi=UuBZJmhtOi0SgoSi just for you, my friend. Feel free to stick around and give that one a watch. I’d love to hear your thoughts on if I missed anything too important
@@Jiggyx3makes sense,since sonic CD was developed by the japanese Sonic team(who worked on sonic 1)while sonic 2 was developed by the american sonic team
In my opinion the idw comic focuses on female cast more. And is it me or that every new character is a female because listen to me, every new good character is a female will the Villiers are mostly males....we haven't had a good male character after silver since 2006 and no, chip doesn't count since he's dead and kit is tied to surge all the time......seriously we haven't had a good guy in a decade wtf sega?
Very compelling argument here. It’s really been just Eggman in IDW. Starline was cool, but even from his first introduction, I could tell he wouldn’t be around long. I will say that Mimic is intriguing though
Chip isn't dead, just dormant. Though by the time he becomes active again, Sonic will have long since passed away. So by all intensive purposes, he might as well be dead to the Sonic crew.
•Amy is on the right track.
•Cream needs to go on more adventures with Amy.
•Rouge is on the right track. Place her on more treasure hunting adventures.
•Blaze needs more stories focused around the Sol Emeralds.
•Marine needs to go on more adventures with Blaze. I think it would be fitting that she has light powers.
•Trip needs to come into the modern era.
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I agree with all of this, minnuusss the Trip one, since Sonic Team seems to be (for now at least) keeping the classic and modern era separated. I personally love the idea of Trip being modern, especially since I feel like she’d survive as a character a lot longer than in the classic games, but we’ll have to see.
I definitely think Trip should come into the modern era. Specifically, I see her being paired with Knuckles.
And they’d have their own unique dynamic similar to Amy/Cream and Sonic/Tails.
She could be his apprentice/heir apparent to guarding the Master Emerald!
Also bring back Sticks the Badger
@@paoerfulone1089you might already know this but there was a comic with that concept for the 30th anniversary of Knuckles' creation. It's a really cute little story, the dynamic is done really well.
Sega has done a full pullback in the last decade because of that loud "Sonic and his shitty friends" trend that started back in the day for his games. They started making it mainly about sonic for nearly a decade after Sonic 06 so I wouldn't say the women themselves got cucked but the entire roster. Its only recently they started trying to bring his friends back into the fold. I am waiting on Sticks and Blaze myself. Cream got a good showing in that sonic dream team mobile game. Rouge will be good as long as they let Team Dark remain a thing. I love that trio.
Big facts. I think the ‘break from Sonic’s friends’ was a right move financially, but as a long-time fan, I hated only seeing characters I love in dialogue boxes for this long. We’re getting back to having more characters and development for said characters though, so I’m excited for the future.
Team Dark for the win as well 🙂↕️
@@Jiggyx3 I think its worse when you realize how long they were benched for. Shadow wasn't playable after sonic and the black knight all the way up to Sonic Forces. Tails was from Sonic 06 to like Sonic Frontiers in the main timeline games aside from Sonic Mania and Sonic Origins. They really benched the entire crew.
Precisely and there are so many more examples. Omega? 06. Knuckles? Didn’t come back until Frontiers all the way from black knight . It’s frustrating, but right now we’re living in the timeline where all that frustration paid off and we can begin to have everyone else at the forefront.
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Hopefully. I can see the struggle Sonic Team has with trying to incorporate this many characters. Sonic Heroes style of gameplay is pretty much the only way some times.
I feel like SA2 did a decent job with everyone but Knuckles. He didn’t really serve a purpose in the story until the very end with the master emerald chant ex-machine
Honestly, Blaze shouldve been part of the Main cast all along. I'm of course happy that they've had her appear in as many games as they could put her in, but 80-90% of that is putting her in the background. She has arguably the same capabilities as Sonic, shadow, and silver, including having a super form of her own, and she's not even playble after over a decade?! That's just ridiculous.
Not to mention, both Marine, and especially Cream being perfect candidates as long-term sidekicks for her, only for neither of them to be utilized.
Hell, she's one of the characters that helped solidify boosting being part of the games!
If Sega and Sonic Team are capable of giving Shadow a whole game, and a whole year dedicated to him, then theyre capable of doing the same for Blaze.
BLAZE! DESERVES! BETTER!
I’d die for a year of “The Future & Flames” targeting both silver and blaze as the forerunners. I think those two have such a cool dynamic
she is apart of the main cast. are you dense?
@@biohazardbin she's not in the main case when it comes to having higher importance to a story line. She used to have that importance for the Rush games, and for 06', but since then, she's been put back to being secondary or even background.
Hell, she's been playable in more spin-off games than mainline games.
What this video is mainly trying to say is that these characters deserve to have much higher importance than they've been given. Bigger roles in story lines, important writing choices, etc.
@@iamjesskingsley Because Blaze is a character from another dimension, from a game that many didn't play. If you want more from Blaze, read the comics.
This is honestly what has annoyed me about the franchise since the mid 2000’s, not to sound bitter but it’s just how they’ll introduce a new character, establish their skill and power or relationship with someone, and their backstory, make them seem major, then they either completely ignore said character, or do the complete opposite and suddenly change of what they’ve already established of said character, they really don’t know what to do with any characters that’s not Sonic or Shadow, and that “Sonic friends never mattered” criticism back in the day was just so dumb, I respect that Sega listens to fans but fans should not have had this much authority over their work, but the bad side of Sonic fans be so loud it’s pitiful lol
the IDW comics definitely help also in terms of highlighting the ladies a bit more, especially with the introduction of so many female characters like tangle, whisper, jewel, belle, surge, and lanolin. and the og cast is pretty solid too. amy in particular is the best she's ever been imo. IDW being canon now is def a step in the right direction, hopefully we'll see some of that characterization translate to the games more
@svturn9ne ooo I just did a video on the IDW ladies and the comic as a whole, so be sure to check that out! I agree with you though, and definitely like how most of the cast is handled, especially Surge and her struggles
Rouge has been watered down.
Marine has been buried since Blaze can't be allowed to have her own side kick.
Vanilla has been banished since "no blood relatives!" for the cute animal characters allowed.
And the rest are "Amy's best friend"... like Trip, like Cream, etc.
All such a shame, honestly. I hope we get those mandates revised one day and can have something of value for all these characters to call their own
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I say it would take time. Mainly to get to old guard to retire out for new blood to fix things out.
I think it may take 2 decades at least.
This is probably in terms of the games themselves.
The IDW comics are a little more liberal in their use.
Vanilla was WHAT?!!!!! Where did you get that from?!!! I love Vanilla The Rabbit, but Vanilla was banned for "no blood relatives!"??!!
True. Patience is a virtue, and I’ve mastered it with this series. Eventually we’ll get that long awaited payoff
Agreed. I love Silver, but I'll never be happy with the fact they took Blaze's side of the story away and made her into what many fans consider "silver's side-kick" when in reality she could easily have her own spin-off series.
And so soon after her debut in Sonic Rush. It's a real shame
They’re equals and should always be treated as such. Do I think they should be this “intertwined duo”? Nah, but they have this sort of innocence and chemistry with each other that makes them adorable (platonically) together
@@Jiggyx3 I disagree Blaze was way better duos with Sonic in Sonic Rush as partners than she was with Silver in 06 she never got to do anything and in the end was sacrificed Silver better off to learn on his own like Blaze did as it was the best for her. Putting Silver and Blaze in my opinion was the worst decision Sega made one of many for 06.
That’s fair! I was speaking more so about the times they interact after 06 though! In Colors DS, IDW, etc
I like to think that their dynamic would ideally be like Sonic and Knuckles. While they’re more than willing to team up sometimes, they still have their own stuff going on.
I feel like IDW comics does a great job at this with both of them having separate stories with characters like Knuckles, Amy, or the Diamond Cutters.
They for sure do! There are some drops here and there with characters, but overall it’s pretty good !
3:01 idk why people keep taking Amy's teasing and playfulness in Heroes and other games seriously. When sonic himself knows Amy is just messing with him
That’s valid. In my many Heroes runs as a child/late teenager, I didn’t find anything too arduous with how she acted personally, but I can see how people view it as a regression of character. Retroactively, people can most likely understand it as flirty banter, but at the time they most definitely hated that all that SA1 growth “went out the door”
But It didn’t. In sa1 she learnt shat she can do more than just be in the adventures and participate in helping and that’s what she does in heroes. even if she had no love for sonic she would still be looking for him as “sonic” was the last one seen with her friends pets, she spends the game looking for them even after her encounter looking for them instead of him, and she is successful.
All true, but admittingly, Heroes does insinuate that after their fight with team rose, team Sonic did something crazy to get away from there. We don’t know for sure if Rose ever got a chance to ask Team Sonic about chocola and froggy
@@Jiggyx3 I’m pretty sure in the dialogue for for the fight they bring op chocola and froggy but sonic assumes that’s a joke too.
@teamdarkfan317 fair point. This is why I say we need a heroes remake though lol. Have all these things laid out plainly
While Amy's growth in SA1 was great, I dont think she's necessarily a bad character in the games that use her more stock "fangirl" characterization.
In a game like 06, while she's mostly just focused on chasing Sonic the whole time, she still manages to have some funny yet sweet interactions with characters like Silver and Elise, basically kickstarting the former's arc. When Silver's poised to defeat Sonic, she steps in and stops him, with Sonic sincerely thanking her instead of awkwardly getting away from her. She gets to break Elise out of Eggman's clutches, and she's there to help gather the Chaos Emeralds when the world goes to shit.
I like that she's allowed to contribute to the plot in her own Amy way without just being buffed to everyone else's level. Thats why I also like her in Superstars more than Frontiers. Simpler isn't always worse, imo.
Nice take and you do have a point. 06 is one of the better showings since she kinda locks in once she realizes what’s going on around her.
It’s just that I love heroes, but hate what they did to my girl there. The whole point of finding Sonic was to ask him about chocola and froggy, not forced marriage.
I would’ve had team rose fight team Sonic a bit later in the story
I’ve always loved Amy as a character both old and new, I admit her fangirl days were a bit much but she really has grown since then and at the end of the day she always pulls through, and one thing that’s always been consistent about her character is she’s a caring individual, she basically is Cream’s big sister, her and Tails have a good bond with no trust issues whatsoever, her and Blaze are on great terms, her getting Shadow to hang out more is a seriously impressive accomplishment, and I absolutely love her friendship with Knuckles, she admires, cares, trusts and respects Knuckles to a high standard which has been shown in both Archie and IDW comics multiple times, it’s the fact he trains her in hand to hand combat in both modern and classic AND he trusts her to the point to protect the master emerald and she gets mad if Rouge steals from him, and she hates that he’s by himself all the time and wants him to see the gang more or just visits him to keep him company, even in bad games like Sonic Chronicles she’s super defensive over Knuckles and sees him as a great guardian, even her and Rouge are on much better terms than before but she wants sis to stop messing with Knuckles all the time, like bro she’s everyone’s bestie and it’s great, and idc what some angry Sonic fan on twitter/tumblr or Reddit says, Amy is a great character and always has been, and just because she’s more independent doesn’t mean she’s regressed, it means she’s growing, and Sonic as a franchise has always been about friendship and family, idk how they don’t get that lol
@superherochestsymbol1032 I think Amy’s character has had one of the better transformations, but in that same breadth, her consistency in how she’s shown to care for everyone in pretty much every entry is impressive. There’s rarely been a lapse in that department and she genuinely wants the best for all of her friends
@@Jiggyx3 Exactly, well put!
GET BLAZE THE CAT IN THE MAIN CAST!!!!!!!
RAAAAAAAH (x2)
Also the fact that female characters can’t go super, even the hedgehogs? Unbelievably wrong as hell.
Maaaaan. I thought superstars would at least give Amy yellow fur. At least we got a “super trip” kinda sorta
@@Jiggyx3 Yeah we got a super Trip because she's classic. In classic, females can go super, but in recent modern, they can't.
@@zuwenakelley2079for one thing they can go super and the gender of the character going in a super form shouldn't matter it should be about how well they can control it or how to utilize the the full capabilities of what they can do like sonic.exe finish nightmare gave us that and yes they allow Amy cream and Sally to go in a super form to fight exterior for a while before losing like really it's not impossible for them to go into form at all better yet why not have Sonic train them to utilize the form better so they can better maintain it when they use it like you know if Sonic were to go off on its own adventures again that doesn't involve Earth he can just have his friends protect it
burning blaze is basically her going super
@ Burning Blaze is the exception to the rule. She is the guardian of her own set of different emeralds, and she is also her universe’s counterpart to Sonic. As far as the chaos emeralds go only male hedgehogs can canonically go super.
Its so fucking sad, considering Blaze used to be canonically considered equally as powerful as Sonic, which could have been a really cool concept to play around with
Tell me about it. Luckily she has moments in the IDW comics, but the kinda sauce she had was on display for the world to see back in the Rush games. I want better for her so, so bad.
They should make a game with Amy, Rouge, Blaze, and Cream going on an adventure and saving Sonic and the world. Like an FFX-2 esque game.
Now that’s a game that would have my money out of my wallet so fast. If you haven’t checked out my Sonic RPG video, def give it a watch. Just based off of your comment, I have a feeling you’ll like it; ruclips.net/video/pivTTGQWLMk/видео.htmlsi=kMYNItD8VS_JdrzQ
I wish Tikal got more attention.. I know she’s basically dead but she’s cool
Omg you’re right.. we totally overlooked her… 🥺 I bet she guards the Master Emerald while Knuckles is away, that’s why he’s able to join his friends on so many of their adventures.
@@SupremeSRNot sure since it ends with her & Chaos leaving the world in peace.
Tikal will forever be the GOAT, and I’m glad that she at least gets some rep in spinoffs. Would be cool to see her and potentially Chaos back in some way though
@@Jiggyx3 Well the closest to Chaos coming back was the Perfect Chaos battle in Sonic Generations, Chaos in Lego Sonic Dimensions, and much disappointment Sonic Forces, but at least we got some lore involving Chaos’ connection to the Ancients in Sonic Frontiers.
Big facts. Hopefully the next mainline game doesn’t leave things as is, since in frontiers, they also mentioned how the chaos emeralds were called to earth by the master emerald somehow
It’s a crime that the mainline female characters haven’t gotten their own game yet, especially Amy. I feel like this would do them good in fleshing out their characters even more.
Big facts! Amy out of everyone should e had something by now
It would be nice if Rouge had her own game.
A detective/spy styled game would have me hooked ngl. I love stealth games
@@Jiggyx3 Same
I actually agree
These are all (primarily) good characters, and I wish they were utilized more. Especially Blaze, who I understand why she wouldn’t become a MAIN part of the cast, but it would be cool to see her get some more important roles in the future. Maybe a game that takes place in the not really utilized Sol Dimension (seriously they have a whole other DIMENSION that they just don’t use). Maybe just giving Blaze her own game (we don’t have ANY spinoff games like Shadow the Hedgehog or Knuckles Chaotix that star female characters and I think Blaze would have a good game)
YEEEESSSSSS YOU GET IT. GIMME A BLAZE GAME THAT PROVES SHES THE ALTERNATE DIMENSION VERSION OF SONIC SEGA, AND YOU HAVE MY LIFE
Would make a good excuse for Marine to appear (and get some actual character development, but I digress)
Dare I say, you’re cooking?
@@Jiggyx3 As a fan of Sonic Rush Adventure
Help me I'm starving
I pray we get to feast soon, my friend.
I'm very hopeful for Blaze, I remember when Kishimoto was on Twitter interacting with the fans.
Some people asked him who was his favorite character he answered Blaze, and the way he talked about her made it sound like he had plans for her.
There's also the fast friends forever campaign, wich indicated some characters that sega consider as at least somewhat important for the futur of the franchise, and currently the only characters who didn't had some kind of role in a recent games are Blaze and Silver, coincidence? I think not.
Kishimoto loves him some Blaze, that’s for sure. I wouldn’t be surprised if he does something major since he said that he wants to make a true Adventure-styled game as well
Bruh, everyone aside from Sonic, Amy and Tails are underused. The whole cast deserves better.
The undeniable truth, my friend. Just wanted to spotlight the ladies since we haven’t seen some since the early 2010s😭
Yes. Amy, Cream, Blaze and Rouge deserve better in the mainline Sonic games. Sega should make one of them appeared in next game.
I need them to be playable as well so that that full expressiveness of their personalities can be felt through unlockable abilities. These have to FEEL like the characters we know and love
I am really glad this video came across my feed, and to answer one of your questions...
For me personally, the main cast has always been Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Amy, the antagonist is Eggman (and whatever unholy abomination he's managed to unearth): that being said, I believe characters like Blaze and Shadow should definitely be recurring guest stars (as long as they don't make their appearances forced for the sake of fan service).
As for Rouge: I would love for her to get her own storyline in a game that possibly dives into her origins and explains why she is the way she is.
And as for Cream: maybe bring her back as a supporting character for any and all Amy side stories, because I love the big sis little sis vibes they have 🤗
I’m happy that you enjoyed the video! 😭 and I agree with all your points too. It’d be nice to get some variety of the characters that appear, but forcing them in has almost only ever lead to bad stories. A Rouge game would most definitely be sick though!!
I WANT THEM TO BRING BLAZE BACK TO ANOTHER GAME!!!! PLEASE SEGA!!!! BRING HER BACK!
RAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
When I was younger I've always wanted her to have her own spin game. Since she's technically an alternate version of Sonic, it would've been nice to see more of her world
@LivInSpace5162 truly an untapped well of potential that one cat is. I hope that a spotlight is out on her in the next few years because she so desperately needs it
@Jiggyx3 hear me out but I think there's a chance for her in the movies I already have theories that the 5th film will involve her and Silver it could mix elements from Rush and 06 I just want them to get rid of elise and give her storyline to Blaze
@@LivInSpace5162 yeah, same
Call me crazy but, if the next main form sonic game follows sonic frontiers in any capacity, the return of cream, & blaze should be inevitable, amy said she's going on her own adventure to share her love with the world if they follow this , they should be back with her
Honestly, Sega has the opportunity to do the dopest thing and use this as a means to make a amy rose spin off game finally
I’d love if the sequel to frontiers actually details the adventures everyone went on after the end of the Frontiers. It’d be dope to have all those branching storylines come back, full circle.
Bro, I don't know how this video no has more views. I'm from Brazil, you deserved more
(Sorry if I write something wrong, I really don't know speak English, I just know the basic and I'm not using the Translator)
Hey I appreciate that you saying that! It’ll have more in due time i hope😭 And no worries! Everything you typed out is understandable 🙂↕️ thanks for watching and I hope you stick around!
Jet, silver, and blaze are 3 that I think NEED to see more love from sega
yes, Yes, and YES! Give us another riders game sega, and you have my life!
I don't think many Sonic fans aware how wasted Rouge is, she might be most prominent female after Amy, but even with her inclusion, she feels like just there and not anything interesting done with her, getting feats on her own to make her character more memorable. She also very watered down nowadays, she's overly friendly and very nice, yeah I got that she's not evil, but I do miss her cunning double agent side.
@pokiedokie1424 he relationship to GUN only just started being relevant again and I hate that. She’s like a(n) on again, off again, member of team Sonic whenever they need another slot for something, but that should’ve been going to only Cream
STICKS MENTIONNNNN
I LOVE HERR
BRING HER BACK 2025 SONIC TEAM PLEAAASEEEE
I’d argue that most of Amy’s characterisation pre the 2010s was fine & true to Sonic Adventure (if slightly exaggerated). Her character arc in Sonic Adventure is proving she can be independent & can keep up with Sonic & the others (also proving herself to Sonic). Most of the games from the 2000s stick pretty true to that. I actually think her characterisation’s a bit off now & not nearly as interesting
I can see how you’d feel that way. I know a lot of people believe she’s been built up as a pseudo sally acorn, but I don’t think that’s it. To me, it’s felt like a natural progression of a young woman growing up and realizing there’s more to life than just boys.
I miss Cream and Cheese being main characters, they added such a soft and sweet touch to the series. They're my absolute favorites (along with Tikal). 😢🩷
I think there’s still hope for them! Sonic Dream team is canon after all, and the master emerald showed up as a “teaser” of sorts in Frontiers, so a Tikal comeback could eventually happen!
2:11 pretty sure her first playable appearance was sonic the fighters
Ya got me. I was trying to keep things in a sense of mainline games, but you are correct on all accounts.
@@Jiggyx3 also Cream actually got a highlight role in Sonic Battle...
Not a good one but still, she got another appearance
@criticalbuddy524 Hey, we at least got something for her before Sonic Team decided to not have her playable in anything else
>The Women In the Sonic Franchise Deserve More
I haven't seen the video yet, but the female anthro characters of the Paramount Sonic movies (other than Longclaw) deserve to exist in the first place.
You, my friend, are onto something here. Check out my “Sonic Shouldn’t Exist” video for a synopsis of just why some of the female characters exist. I don’t touch on Longclaw in that video, but I hope we get a bit more of here somewhere soon because she literally just came and went
Paramount be like, no girls allowed! 🙄
@DemonDethchase we never know! I’ve seen some placement inconsistencies in the trailers, so Rouge may still appear 🙂↕️
@@DemonDethchase Paramount sucks. I'm glad they're bankrupt and going to be sold.
English is not my native language so I'll try my best lol. But when we're talking about female characters in Sonic universe, it kinda pisses me off we still don't have any female characters in Paramount movies (yeah, I know Maria and Maddie are there but I'm talking about anthro girlies obviously). I don't get the fact we're about to get the THIRD movie already and still there is no anthro girl. Don't get me wrong, I'm super excited to watch the movie but I lost it when we got an information that Team Chaotix is about to get their own series, yet we know NOTHING about the female cast and I hate that many fans are acting like Amy and Rouge are not important. I may sound dramatic but as a female Sonic fan it's kinda heartbreaking.
No worries! I got everything that you were trying to say ☺️ I’m with you though! I have a strange feeling that Rouge will be in movie 3 somehow. I don’t know if it’s me being delusional or what, but I genuinely feel as though she will
If i were in charge of Sonic Team or at least having a female focused game, I'd bring back the storybook games ans start with Amy as Dorothy in a Wizard of Oz themed game. Rouge or Cream could be Glinda and either Surge from the IDW comics or a new humanoid witch as the Wicked Witch and have Sonic as the Scarecrow, Omega as the Tin Man, Eggman as the Wizard, a Chao as Toto and either or both Tails and/or Knuckles as the Cowardly Lion. Amy would be a homesick farm girl who uses her hammer to be independent while also having friends supporting her along the way. I always wanted a Sonic-Wizard of Oz game
You my friend, just cooked up something delicious. That sounds like it’d be a fun time all around! Especially if it went deeper into the lore of Oz outside of the original movie
That sounds like a nice idea ngl, it could be fun
11:36 There’s definitely a lot of behind the scenes context going on here for Shadow and Rouge to get so close within a short about of time (3 days I think?) I think they both developed soft spots for each other during this time, but as a game they fast forward to they mainly show pre-stage post-stage cutscenes… but I also notice they both carry the same dismissiveness towards Eggman afterwards in later games.
They’re twins fr. Rouge probably not understanding why Shadow risked his life for her is what led her to not straight up blowing the lid on the whole operation. For Shadow, those small sparks of Maria memories are what prompted him, but he could’ve easily ignored it.
I’d love for *all* the characters we love to come back in a mainline sonic game and either have interconnecting stories like the Adventure games, a team up style like heroes just better lol, or just as multiple playable character options with their own story tweaks like in the advance games. The possibilities are endless and I hope sonic team are finally learning that we don’t want games where you solely play as sonic all the time. His cast of supporting characters are super interesting visually and story wise and all deserve time to shine
I feel like individual “stories” such as the advanced series would be sooooo good and easy to do (I’m not a developer lmao). Either that, or give me a huge game that takes a while to complete and brings everyone necessary in
@ agreed! The cast is too fun to not have everyone in
@Pinksugarcandy one of the best parts of being a Sonic fan lol
Knuckles Adventure......co-starring Rouge the Bat!
Their abilities with treasure hunting are so fun and versatile that Sonic Team could easily let them star in a winning game. Have them be partners or rivals that run parallel in the adventure.
Dare I say…”Rouge Adventure…&Knuckles?”
Canonize is a word, that exists. It mainly means being declared a saint, but considering the whole concept of canon comes from the same context, it should be fine to use here.
My hero fr. Thank you for clarifying that I’m not crazy
Blaze the cat should get a game of her own where the story is revolved around her .
For sure and I hope the next year we get has something involving her honestly. My girl deserves it
Blaze should get her own game not added to her Sonic's world.
She has her own world use it Sega.
Also give Sliver his own game he's from future so that has great potential.
There are so many stories that could be created with almost all the cast that’s it’s frustrating 😭 Things are starting to turn around though, so I really am hopeful (knocks on wood)
Nice video. I think Sonic has always presented female characters fairly well.
I'm a little surprised that characters like Tangle, Whisper and Surge didn’t get mentioned from the IDW comics, although they aren't what the general public will see or take much notice of when it comes to Sonic as a whole, so I understand.
I haven't read the comics myself but from what I've heard and watched on RUclips, they're well rounded, in depth characters that are liked.
Hopefully they'll appear in the games and break the historically separated comic and game line up formula.
Glad you liked it☺️ I have a video actually coming out tomorrow at 11:30AM PST about the IDW characters if that tickles your fancy👀
Some of the fan stories about these characters should be considered canon. I’ve seen so many amazing ideas that are so well done, that I’m starting to consider them in Sonics world.
@@snowbird1381 Hey, might as well! There are certain things fans do a bit better than SEGA, but of course that’s all up to interpretation
I feel like Blaze should be their when their is an big threat she doesn't really seem like the person to just hang out with people. Maybe they could bring the girls back in a game like an spin off game where they have their own campaigns.
Respectable. I know Blaze’s popularity is very high even though she hasn’t been around much. With the direction we’re going, let’s hope we get something with her in it soon, even if it’s not a huge story
I think Amy is at her best character wise when she's focused on helping others and the love for Sonic is a secondary goal.
As for Blaze SEGA needs to figure out if shes from a different dimension or from the future. Sonic 06 IMO should be rewritten to have some Eggman Nega scheme be the thing that she goes to the future for. I'd hate for the Rush series to be the one that gets retconned out but considering she remembers 06 (for some reason) in the Sonic Generations game I'm kinda giving up hope that she'll get anything resembling a conclusion to the whole 2 Blaze origin non-sense.
Rouge for the most part is fine. Being the glue that holds Team Dark together is a good role for her. Also I think her being the one to try and get Shadow to be more sociable is good. An origin story for her would be nice but not necessary and I probably wouldnt ever expect to get one. Overall, she's probably the best character-wise out of everyone mentioned here.
I think the rest of the characters you mentioned that I havent are mostly fine being side-characters. However I would like to see important and loved characters from the IDW comics like Tangle and Surge make their way into a mainline game since fans seem to like them and I think someone like Surge who is kinda brash, arrogant, and morally grey would be great contrast to all of the female characters we've gotten. The only comparison I can make when it comes to playable characters for her is Shadow and I dont even know if they've talked in the comics. There would be plenty of opportunity for that if they made a Team Hero and Team Dark story that had her and Kit on Team Dark.
Love your response to the video and I thank you watching so we could discuss this!
I agree with the Amy statement 110%. She’s been around long enough that everyone knows she’s mad for him, so that should no longer be her only trait. She’s possibly the most morally correct person in the series (aside from cream), and gives everyone a chance, which is why a lot of fans gravitate towards her. Plus, in-series, when she’s not all about Sonic, it actually throws him off and he’s more inclined to flirt with her, a-La IDW comics.
No backstory for Rouge still has me a bit bummed though. You’re right, it may not be necessary, and maybe she doesn’t have a backstory because she genuinely doesn’t need one(?) she’s just a badass spy with a quirk for jewels lol. Rouge does play her role for Team Dark extremely well though like you said.
For the current, IDW-only characters, wholeheartedly agree with you and, not to spoil anything, but I’m working on a video that covers a few of my gripes with how IDW is handled game-lore wise. Definitely stick around for that because I’d love to hear your thoughts on it
@@Jiggyx3 "Plus, in-series, when she’s not all about Sonic, it actually throws him off and he’s more inclined to flirt with her, a-La IDW comics."
Yeah thats something I've noticed too and generally I think she's a pretty good character-wise in IDW.
"I’m working on a video that covers a few of my gripes with how IDW is handled game-lore wise."
My gripe is that we havent seen any of them in a mainline game XD
I actually love their banter in IDW, but yeaaah I feel you on that. IDW becoming canon did happen not that long ago though, so fingers crossed something is cooking for us soon
Blaze can be both. Considering the ending of 06 is her fading away and she had a fire god like being inside of her they could easily have it to where after she fade away she arrives at a new dimension and a story starts there.
Oooo wait? So does that mean that Sonic 06 could have happens before rush?🤔
They finally brought back Cream and Rouge after a decade of negligence. I hope Blaze is next in line for her long-overdue resurgence. Maybe even have her reunite with Cream, since she was the one to cause Blaze to open up more to others, and their friendship was just really sweet. Considering the Rush games basically originated the boost gameplay that's still used to this day, it'd be easy to make her playable in a new game by just giving her a similar moveset that she had in the Rush games. I'd love to see a new story with Blaze in the spotlight.
Blaze is such a cool character that came in with a bang for the Rush series. She’s just this ball of ideas and potential that were never fully realized, so I hope that changes
Literally a golden lineup of female characters. Someone for just about everyone. If only sega would reconize that and let us see more of them.
Shoutout to all the best characters trapped in idw comic jail. Or worse, the archie void.
You get it! I have just the shoutout for the IDW characters coming tomorrow morning at 11:30 AM PST if you’re interested in hearing my thoughts on them👀
I still wait for the day we get a Blaze game again
Genuinely, I’d be a happy man. Blaze is so cool and I still go back to play Sonic Rush from time to time
Vanilla is the only one who is not appearing.
Wave as well.
I think the biggest problem with incorporating Blaze into mainline games is her inconsistent backstory. The Writers can’t seem decide if they want her to be Princess of another Dimension, Sonic’s ruined Future, or a combined version of both somehow, and beyond that placing Blaze at all in a Alternate Dimension or Timeline makes it hard to justify bringing her into the story. How do they even go about communicating with her? I think the easiest outcome is for them to put Blaze permanently in the Future with Silver, and just have her come back when Silver comes back, which, deciding when Silver should come back for games is a whole nother ball game.
I know at the beginning of IDW, Blaze mentions that the Chaos Emeralds act as a beacon for the Sol Emeralds. As in the CE let the SE know when something is wrong in Sonic’s world and that’s how Blaze knows that they need help
Blaze was never from the future
Man I really want Blaze to be somewhat important again. Just have her be playable PLEASE. She has similar speed to Sonic anyway so it’s not like she can’t fit in the boost style
Oh and as for her appearance in 06, while yes it was mostly due to irl reasons, there IS a canonical reason. At the end of Sonic Rush, the two eggmen with the Egg Salamander create a time-space rift. After the battle, we assume Blaze is going back to her home dimension, but she ends up in the Future with Silver instead. Then at the end of 06, she absorbs Iblis, and tells Silver to “seal us in a different dimension”. And miraculously the next time we see her is in Sonic Rush Adventure, back in her home dimension (which means she still has Iblis inside her too)
Ohh??? You’ve just unlocked a can of worms here. Do you have any videos that go into this that I can watch because now I’m intrigued !
@@Jiggyx3 I don’t know any specific videos talking about Blaze’s story. Due to Rush and 06 people are just generally confused about her story.
But if we go to Ian Flynn’s podcast, he’s mentioned Blaze a few times, like how she’s NOT from the future, and from another dimension. 18:57 timestamp ruclips.net/video/iI-9RLmfnUY/видео.htmlsi=zwzRN1LmXSutToq4
Ian asked a question about Mephiles’ possible return and how Blaze still has Iblis. 1:21:40 timestamp ruclips.net/user/livehmWDcysXVzA?si=JCzaz0kJwcmSaLSR
I thank you for the links! I also gotta subscribe to Flynn’s newsletter since I usually love what he has to say
Blaze is my second favorite sonic character only being behind the blue blur himself. I would sell my organs for a standalone blaze game or at least a duo game with silver
A duo game with both of them would make me light up like a Christmas tree. I hope we get some good stuff next year 😭
RIP Sally and Bunnie 🥲
It’s not over till it’s over. There’s always a chance they could reappear in some capacity !
@@Jiggyx3 I feel like they'll be on ice until Ken Penders passes away.
@TheAC86 I hadn’t even considered that, but that’s a very very high possibility
I think Blaze should mainly be a cataclysmic event character but they can still have her around like in murder of sonic
Can't be mad at that honestly. She's strong enough to make a change when a huge event happens!
While I've yet to read them, the IDW comics seem to be doing a good job, even introducing new notable girls like Tangle, Whisper and Surge. It seems to be an all boys club in the Paramount movies though.
Somehow you mentioned Shahra and Merlina but left out Elise and Sage entirely. Also Shade the Echidna from Chronicles, although we're not gonna see her again thanks to the iffy rights situation.
Stay tuned for a video on the IDW girls this Thursday! I left out Elise and Shade due to the circumstances of their games. While Sonic Team did acknowledge Elise with that calendar graphic of her and Silver, I don’t think we’ll see her again 😔
It’s also notable to say that while all of sonics friends did kind of ‘fall off’ due to the games only featuring sonic, the hype around the male cast members allows them to appear much more often than the women, Amy and rouge are the only two who regularly appear in projects, and even then more people want silver in the next sonic movie over Amy or rouge, Amy is included always to be “the girl” character on the team, and it makes her extremely 2D,
people do tend to like rouge more but it’s almost always in a very objectifying way, to be fair she is made to be “sexy” but still it’s not right, she has “team dark” going for her as they are a fan favorite team, everyone loves shadow and usually she’ll be chasing him although similar to Amy, she’s included in artwork and other media as “the backup girl” to show that Amy isn’t the ONLY girl! Nonono we have TWO girls!
Cream fell off, cream fell off hard. Cream was a member of the core cast, if something had sonic she was in it, she was essential to the series and even a face of the series, I think her fall off started with sonic 06, a game that had the entire main cast except for cream, big, and the chaotix, and while no one missed or wanted to play as big, the chaotix are a extremely well constructed team who are overall pretty well liked but not favorited
Cream was kinda just, an outlier, her being excluded from that game still kinda confuses me as she could’ve fit in there in many ways, after that game flopped all of sonics friends became- exactly that
“Sonics dumb friends” which consisted of team dark team chaotix silver and Amy, sometimes blaze too! Cream though was forgotten and left at the bottom of the list when it comes to characters who need to be in game, one way I think they could probably bring her back would be to actually make a good team rose, it never made sense why big would be running around with Amy and cream and in team rose’s story it’s written as a extension to team heroes’ story, when you add that plus their very very easy gameplay I can’t say I’ve ever heard anyone say their favorite team is team rose, there’s a number of characters they could bring from the other games or even the idw comics to fill this spot big leaves,
On a other note, Wave from the sonic riders games is a character who I think could really use some more, that goes for all the Babylon rogues, Jet Wave and Storm were such fan favorites when the rider games were out but unfortunately they just got the cut after, staying characters from spin-off games, I think she already gets points for being a female villain in the sonic games, but also because she’s actually written very well, the dynamic with the Babylon rogues is very strong, whereas with team rose the dynamic is shakey and not confident in itself, the Babylon rogues each have their clear purpose and role and interact with each other accordingly, it’s clear these guys are close but love to get on each others nerves, it’s especially crazy how excluded they’ve become when you look at sonic spin offs, having released MULTIPLE CART RACING TITLES, the characters who’s entire purpose was TO BE RACERS have yet to debut in any of them
Marine is a character sega really could use, on the topic of cart racing titles the most recent one (team sonic racing) was very…messy, in terms of its roster, the games still very much follow a “team” structure where there’s teams of three, one speed, one flight, one strength
Silver and Blaze are excluded from a lot of these games, OR, they’re included but now the balance is thrown off because they need a third member, in sonic free riders (ew) they didn’t get their own story BECAUSE of this reason, so hmm let’s think is there a friend silver or blaze have from their dimension, who has the spunk and the attitude to fill the role of a strong character, who could be their third? Clearly not since sonic team hasn’t put it together
Ignoring her as a person, marine is essential in a lot of ways when it comes to their dynamic, a “team future” featuring Blaze silver and marine would be great, if they could make that sort of friendship work then it’d definitely bring forward Blaze and Silver along with their lil buddy, as the teams in sonic tend to have one younger character on them
(Never getting over them putting Big, Zavoc, and even 4 chao In team sonic racing over cream)
Cream’s fall-off will be studied for generations to come I’m sure of it. I like team rose as a concept, since it’s usually just whoever Amy can convince to go on an adventure with her. While this typically includes Cream most of the time, there have been several interactions of Team Rose, even with Blaze on it.
As for the Blaze & Silver team up, it’s have to be someone with projectiles like them imo. If we’re to pull from all sources, I can see maybe a forced-in Espio l, as he and Silver actually have a good relationship. If not him, then maybe Marine(?) like you said to give Silvaze shippers a faux child for them to take care of.
Team Sonic racing was such a regression in many ways. Still fun, but Zavok and the Chao didn’t need to be in there. They could’ve had the Chao drive cream around honestly lmao
Blaze definitely needs to come back!
Join the “Give Blaze her own Game” army, my friend. WE RIDE AT DAWN
@Jiggyx3 Yes! Give her her own game, and let Cream come along for the ride. And Marine of course.
Huh, it just occurred to me that Marine's name follows the elemental theme that Blaze does, but for water.
We clearly need a rock girl and an air girl to round out Blaze's team.
Imagine if they did a classic 2d style Blaze game, running with the idea of Blaze being Sonic's counterpart, in another universe, she was the heroine of a series of platform games of varying quality until Blaze Rush introduced Sonic, a male hedgehog who's het counterpart in another world who got a cult following but has only appeared in a handful of her games.
I never noticed that parallel between Marine and Blaze, so good catch! Also it’d be so cool to see the chain of events Blaze went through leading up to Sonic Rush
@@Jiggyx3 I literally only noticed it while making the post lol
14:15 It is a word, but means one was declared to be a saint by the Catholic church.
Someone else mentioned the same thing, so I’m glad that you could back up that information 🙂↕️
8:02
Would that be a slur? 😂
How'd all the canon girl Mobians have looked like without any clothes except shoes, socks, gloves, and(sometimes) headwear? Imagine growing up in a parallel universe. How'd all of you have thought about it from your altered memories, experiences, and POVs?
Blaze the cat not only should come back but also should get her own spin-off game.
BTW sega really needs to port dream team to consoles NOW.
All facts, no printer. Not sure when that apple arcade exclusivity is up, but when it is? I'll be there first day!
Excuse me but where the f*ck is Wave in all this
Yeah she's part of a team but she's the brains of the Babylon Rogues for crying out loud
Respectable, buuut I will cover Wave and a couple of other notable names I forgot in a later video since there were too many to do in one palatable sitting 😭 I still gotta cover Honey the Cat, Wave, Lanolin, the whole nine.
I just want to also bring light to Wave the Swallow! She was great in Riders!
@ThyKosmikTym Always love me some Riders. I'd even go so far as to say she's the most interesting out of all the Babylon Rogues. Tech is her thing, but her being a parallel to Tails and even being slightly better than him in the Extreme Gear department made me love her. The charisma is a nice bonus too lol
Ah yes, Cream The Rabbit and Marine The Raccoon... Definitely adult women.
Idk what is it about Rouge but I like her so much, she's so cool
She’s up there on the list for me as well! Has been since she first showed up
THIS IS A REALLY GOOD VIDEO!!!!!!
Heyyyy glad you liked it!☺️🙂↕️ I aim to deliver!
Sonic X Shadow Gens would have been a great way to have more characters return like Marine since Blaze shows up, why didn't she get invited to the birthday party 😢
Sonic Team was probably still reeling in the opinions from her debut all those years ago and don’t think fans have grown up yet😭
canonized is a word, but its for when someone becomes a saint :P
time to worship Saint Sticks
I’ve been enlightened 🙂↕️ (pun entirely intended)
11:20 Obviously Shadow doesn’t die
Marine and Cream aren't women, they're still very young girls.
Also, you should have added Tikal in the thumbnail and video.
To that first point, while you are correct, it didn’t feel “right” for me personally to say “females” in the title due to some people taking the term in a derogatory context, and saying “girls” felt like an injustice to the older members of the cast.
As for the Tikal addition, I’d argue that her story/context surrounding her character has been resolved. The same could be said about Marine and maybe even Cream, but the spot Marine takes up was more so about characters that haven’t had a dedicated spotlight on them.
@@Jiggyx3Eh female would've been okay because in this context it's not derogatory or anything, just a descriptor of the character's traits. They're more than just being female, but that doesn't mean they aren't still..you know being potrayed as female. But I feel like girls fits better since the only characters that really are shown to be adults are just Rouge and Vanilla (Wave too actually?). Cause it feels weird calling Amy, Blaze, Cream and Marine women when they really aren't. I wouldn't like call the male Sonic characters men lmao- I don’t really consider Sonic a man in any way, at best just a guy who likes adventure.
@bobtheball5384 I appreciate that take. Just had to be careful on my end not to upset too many folks lol. At the end of the day for me, they’re just animals lmao
Elise fans malding right now
Who’s that now? (Jokingly)
blaze and marine DEFINITELY need to return in another rush game. its such a missed opportunity to not bring those games back considering how much everyone enjoyed them and still do-to this day!! the two of them are wonderful characters and i reallt wanna see the sol dimension get more fleshed out…i miss the soundtracks…they should also make an idw spin off comic for blaze’s anniversary this upcoming year, hopefully that would mean they retcon blaze defeating all her enemies/give her more
@soulsearchinp I like that idea! Blaze deserves a game just as much as anyone else that people are suggesting get a year to themselves. I know that comics are indeed one of the main ways they celebrate these characters now, so Marine popping up in a Blaze one-shot would be fire and make sure she’s canon again 😭
To be honest after seeing the shadow generation to be honest It felt like it gave me more hope that, they returned back to what they used to be I love Amy interpretation from sonic adventure where she is still obsessed with sonic but doesn't mean she can't help herself either same with some other female characters.
Yessssss! I feel like no one BUT Shadow could open the potential doors for everyone else. Amy’s characterization has made a return to form recently as well and I’m happy
Cream began to be cut and wasted from Sonic The Hegdehog 2006 onwards. Fortunately, Cream returned to the games in Sonic Dream Team and she has a lot of use in the IDW comics.
The hate of Marine The Raccoon is very awful and stupid, because Marine is "annoying" because MARINE IS JUST A 7 YEARS OLD CHILD! Every child is annoying because children are naturally hyperactive, agitated and childish and they need support from parents or older adults responsible. Cream and Charmy are "annoying" (hyperactive, agitated and childish) because they are children and some people loves those characters.
Actually, Sonic always took advantage of the cast of characters in mainline games and portable games, but the Sonic cast began to be cut and wasted from Sonic Unleashed (This is without a doubt, the WORST FLAW of Sonic Unleashed), however, Sonic Colors (Wii) was the main responsible to kept the cast issue of Sonic Unleashed and got worse the Unleashed's cast issue, cutting the humans in Sonic games and mischaracterizing the characters. Fortunately, Sonic Frontiers fixed the Unleashed's issue that was maintained by Sonic Colors and the was until Sonic Forces.
Even with the Sonic cast issue in Sonic Unleashed, I love this game but is NOT the GOAT of franchise (For me). I think the Sonic Adventure 1 and Sonic Adventure 2 are better than Sonic Unleashed.
I'm brazilian.
Edit: Jiggy, I knew that the main reason that made the Sonic games discard the characters' appearances was also the news media.
You make very valid statements, but the “I’m Brazilian” has me dead lmao. You hit the nose on a lot of points and I agree with the child characters getting way too much hate for acting as they “should” or “would”
@@Jiggyx3 I said I'm Brazilian because I'm not completely fluent in English and Spanish.
Can you make a part 2 of this video adding characters like Vanilla The Rabbit, Trip The Sungazer, Wave The Swallow, Tikal The Echidna and Shade The Echidna?
And can you make another video like this talking only about the female Sonic characters in the comics?
I caught the gist, but no worries! I understood your comment fully and appreciate you even leaving one ☺️ I like the idea of those two prompts you gave out though and will definitely look into doing so! There are so many under-utilized women in this franchise that it hurts
Marines hate for being "annoying" is dumb once you realize she isnt even voiced, its all text lol. I found her quite charming and funny with that aussie accent and would love to see her grow to become a sweet pirate captain.
@ORLY911 She always came off as just a super excited kid that wanted to help out. We’ve all been there before, and most of us were probably kids when we played Tush Adventure, so I don’t get peoples hate lol
rouge has also been in dream team
I noticed that misstep way too far into post production and was hoping no one noticed lol. Ya got me, but it’s a learning moment for myself , so thank you
You want to know something?
Amy did have something important in 06
And good news she does not seem that crazy for Sonic and piece of an important role is when it comes to Silver where she had to talk to him
She was very much so the anchor of that game in more ways than one, and she usually is! They may seem like small dialogue scenes, but the impact is almost always felt much later in the same game!
@Jiggyx3 It's honestly fantastic writing
Though everytime there is a game with ambition some reason they had to fail
Sonic 06 is one of them and a game I found than had alot of ambition is Devil May Cry 2
Both games are ambitious and they had failed in a really tragic way
Something that would've been fantastic then had to had their hands tied behind their backs from using their full potential
And I want to see them have another attempt at games with that potential too as a remaster
Ahhhh the DMC 2 ambition is what kills me. Especially since the first one was so, so nice. I think it could def use the remaster treatment, but it'd take a lot of selling of 'We swear it's different' on Capcom's part to get people to buy it. Phenomenal comparison though!
@@Jiggyx3 I honestly would trust them
Mistakes in the past can be learned and I am sure they had learned it
I will say I wish ambitious games had their full potential too one series I can mention is the Soulsborne series
They have so much cut content and they end up as good games but I really wish that any ambitious game just finishes fully
@Exeternal_Beyonder_Of_Doomsday *cough cough* Bring back bloodborne please and expand on that universe
14:15 She hasn’t been canonised, as the mention of her is more of an Easter egg reference for western audiences. In the main Japanese script and dialogue of Sonic Frontiers there is no mention of her.
@adamc117 Didn’t know that. Is there official word from Sonic Team on which version of the Sonic games are canon ?
I disagree that Sonic Heroes was backpeddling her development. Granted it's been years since I played it, but for me while she still flirts with Sonic, it's more mature and more in a teasing way, and it's not the driving force for her it once was. She's now leading her own team on an adventure and is a hero in her own right with Cream and Big along, too. I can't see pre Adventure Amy being like that.
I can't speak for 06 as I've never been able to get far in the game and I can't remember Chronicles well enough.
I did like her in Frontiers though and I hope we get to see more of her and the others in the future!
You make fair points honestly. I mentioned it to someone else, but I definitely think Team Rose should’ve fought team Sonic much later in the story instead of after 4 levels. Amy could’ve relayed the info to Sonic that Shadow was alive, only for team dark and team Sonic to still fight because why not lol. Going back to Amy specifically though, it’s true that she’s gone through some much needed growth over the past couple of years, and it’s good to see that her character is (almost) fully realized
If they make Blaze relevant again, I hope that they restructure her world. I found it very...uninspired in Rush Adventure especially when the map was effectively only inhabited by Koalas and Polar Bears of all things. It felt like an afterthought that was never properly fleshed out.
The fact that she is a princess from another dimension really does hold her back from being one of the main characters in the Sonic franchise. Without retconning her character, this isn't something that can be easily changed unless Sega goes the route of the IDW comics where she literally has nothing to do in her dimension which is at peace.
The sceptre in Rush Adventure keeping their worlds apart is...kind of lame in my opinion. I think a story where the worlds collide would be really interesting and allow for Blaze to be more accessible.
Maybe if they actually attempt to remake '06, they could change the story to make Blaze and her dimension more relevant such as her connection with Iblis and its connection to "SOLeana" and "SOLaris". I'm really curious if this was just a coincidence since Sonic Rush and '06 were in development around the same time. Remaking '06 would be a colossal undertaking and I don't think Sega would be able to pull it off though. They did bring back Mephiles for a cameo so it has at least been acknowledged (Shadow's story in '06 is obviously a highlight of that game. I've only played a little bit of P-06 simply because the game gives me motion sickness, but a lot of people say they actually liked the level design in that game at least).
Blaze is in a tough spot. She is really inaccessible because she both comes from another dimension and she has royal responsibilities that tie her up over there. I don't think these issues can be easily fixed to make her appear often. She needs an excuse just to appear in Sonic's dimension.
It’s funny that you mention Blaze’s world colliding with Sonic’s to make her more of a mainstay. I actually covered that back in this video: ruclips.net/video/-4S46Mw3myM/видео.htmlsi=Uet-uSYgRxBWW-Ox
I need Blaze to get another chance so bad
Blaze is my favorite character, shame she never got a spin off. I mean come on, her world is a blank check to the game designers.
They could do so much and honestly introducing gender-bent or alternate versions of characters we already know is an easy selling point
Im just waiting for wave to make more appearances
I need a Riders sequel and I need it now. IDW does make good use of the Babylon Rogues though, I will say
9:27 I guess Sonic Generations isn't real.
I take that timestamp and raise you, @6:58 in the video detailing that specific omission.
I wish Sticks appeared on the games
Hopefully this changes soon since she was mentioned in Frontiers!
Its a shame blaze doesn't give more attention. Not only does she have enough lore to get her own game, but she literally the only female (besides surge), that can remotely keep up with people like sonic, shadow, knuckles and silver in a fight
Also, are you excited for the next arc in idw coming out early next year?
Its going to have the Dimond cutters, silver, sonic, blaze, mimic and clutch as the main focus. Also, final issue for the current arc comes out this month
Blaze is forever that girl I will say.
And yeah I’m excited! I’ve been waiting for the riders arc to conclude so I can finally finish that out and then it’s full steam ahead. I’m all for it
(Not sure why my first comment disappeared, but eh... I'll do another one anyways. :P)
I'm with ya: Blaze needs to be playable again. She is My Favorite Sonic Character and My Favorite Female Sonic Character as a result, hence why I have a long standing dream for her. ^^
sally will always be my favorite
great video
Ayeeee thanks for watching! I appreciate it 🙂↕️
BLAZE NEEDS HER OWN GAME GIMME
She's genuinely my favorite character in the whole franchise and maybe it's because I just have a habit of liking female characters more, maybe it's because I like cats, maybe I just like her fiery spin dash being so cool or that Rush was my first DS game and I couldn't put it down because I just loved playing as her so much. She's just a cool character and I really like her. Out of all the existing women, while yes Rouge is a close second, Blaze is the only one who is genuinely an *equal* to Sonic in both speed and strength. She genuinely deserves her own games and has so much potential.
I'm probably bias.
I’m all for the bias. GIVE US A BLAZE SOLO GAME, SEGA (pls)
I just wish we got some more female villains. When I think of Sonic villains, I mainly think of the male ones like Eggman, Infinite, Zavok and the only female villains I can think of from the games are Heavy magician and rider (apparently they all have genders and these are the only female ones.), Zeena, Sage and the mentioned Merlina. And aside from Sage, they aren't really that memorable to me
Also can we talk about how Zeena is the only one of the deadly six to have a simple and copy pasted seductive body type that a bunch of female sonic charaters have while the guys got unique designs.
It's the same problem with pokmeon villains. There are no female villains other then Lusamine and she wasn’t even evil, just under the effects of poison and was reformed. Even in the IDW comics there are more male villains like Starline and Mimic and the only female villain in IDW is Surge and she's getting reformed. Is SEGA afraid people will think of them as sexist for having a bad woman charater? I know Archie had some evil women but I never got around to reading them so I can't comment too heavily on them but at least they tried
TL;DR gimmie some bad girls SEGA and make them good
That’s what I’m sayyiinngggg. I know SEGA as a whole has a thing with their IP characters beating up women, which is good, BUT that shouldn’t stop them from having a villain be a pure villain for the love of the game. Let’s see a bad girl who stays a bad girl and puts up a challenge for the heroes
@@Jiggyx3yeah man we we need more bad girl villains that stay bad while finding much more unique ways to challenge the heroes
Precisely. Eggman and the eldritch abominations we’ve gotten thus far are cool, but we need a switch up somewhere
in the 90's there were ALOT of cool and interesting women in the sonic franchise, they just weren't in the GAMES.
Big facts. A lot of the Archie women had a lot of depth to them, and it sucks the comic run went the way it did
Out of all the female characters Blaze really has getting the short stick and the most disrespect from Sega we still don’t know anything about her world or the furthest of her abilities in the mainline games plus yes she’s deserves to be an Main Character definitely not an side kick or character. If Edgie can get an whole dang year event label around him I hope and pray Blaze gets that love and attention. I want her to like she was in the rush games and never like 06 they butchered her character in that game. Plus hope to see her in the movie verse some day. 💙💜🔥🌪️
My girl deserves all that and then some. The untapped potential of the Sol Dimension is quite literally an endless money hack 💀
I thought Rouge is more involved if it has Shadow?
Typically, but as there’s been a lack of Shadow stuff until recently, Rouge has been more so “part of” Team Sonic since prime and dream team dropped
I just wish Amy had been included in the sonic 3 movie...
Hey, we never know till we see it! 15 more days, my friend
Yeah...I couldn't listen to this slop anymore after you said that frontiers put Amy back on track 😂😂😂
It Scooby dooby doo be like that. Is it that you disagree and feel Frontiers Amy is still bad, or that you feel like Amy has always been good?
I miss charmy's wife saffron
Oooo that’s a deep cut right there. Earned my respect for that one lol. I do hope the chaotix get some fleshing out if they are to be in the Knuckles’ show 2nd season.
She's an Archie character, so good luck on her ever coming back.
@mariobroultimate1808 🥺I know. I'd even be on with her under a different name and look but would clearly still be charmy's pal
Unfortunately Amy’s recent retcon in shadow generations has brought her from maturing to generic. Without the stuff that made her interesting and nothing to take it’s place outside the comics she’s exactly what you’d assume she is, the pink one.
Well we’d do have to look at the fact that Shadow gens still takes place in the “past” at the same time that the original Sonic gens did. Technically she hasn’t had her a Frontiers growth yet
@@Jiggyx3 that’s what I mean. In frontiers it’s a change from how she was but moving that change back in time makes it the status quo
Bro where is Sticks lmao
If you’re talking about the video, I do mention her! If you’re referring to the games, she’s gone😭 (for now)
It’s a good thing the furry community exists. They’ll never let them be forgotten thanks to their modeling careers!
The heroes we never knew we needed 😭
have u read any of idw? would love to hear ur thoughts on tangle, whisper and lanolin i think they're really well written
I have. :)
Small spoiler - be on the lookout for my video this Thursday ;)
I know this is focusing on the games. But I do feel this vid is missing something by not talking about the shows and comics. If you are not reading or watching them, that is fine. However, this subject feels incomplete without discussing the chars there.
@scofisticated it’s a good thing that I followed this video up with this one; ruclips.net/video/W-gHX88inUQ/видео.htmlsi=UuBZJmhtOi0SgoSi just for you, my friend. Feel free to stick around and give that one a watch. I’d love to hear your thoughts on if I missed anything too important
Sonic 2 was released in 1992 sonic cd was released in 1993 so tails came before amy bro.
It’s been confirmed that timeline-wise, CD takes place before Sonic 2 even though it released after 2 though🙂↕️
@@Jiggyx3makes sense,since sonic CD was developed by the japanese Sonic team(who worked on sonic 1)while sonic 2 was developed by the american sonic team
Yep yep. Not sure why they split development like that so often in Sonic’s early years. They probably just wanted to strike while the iron was hot
@@Jiggyx3 i think there was a reason,i saw in a documentary about the development of sonic 2,but i forgot why
I’m interested to find out so I’ll probably do some digging around for it lol
In my opinion the idw comic focuses on female cast more. And is it me or that every new character is a female because listen to me, every new good character is a female will the Villiers are mostly males....we haven't had a good male character after silver since 2006 and no, chip doesn't count since he's dead and kit is tied to surge all the time......seriously we haven't had a good guy in a decade wtf sega?
Very compelling argument here. It’s really been just Eggman in IDW. Starline was cool, but even from his first introduction, I could tell he wouldn’t be around long. I will say that Mimic is intriguing though
Chip isn't dead, just dormant. Though by the time he becomes active again, Sonic will have long since passed away. So by all intensive purposes, he might as well be dead to the Sonic crew.
It’d be cool to have an unleashed remaster, but getting silver in the future who now has to help Chip fight dark Gaia. Chat? Am I cooking??
@Jiggyx3 oh yeah! The planet shatter every 1000 year and eggman caused it early who is to say the proper time won't happen at least again
I think we just uncovered a future unleashed remake here
I still need reboot sally and honey to appear in a game😓😓😓
Might be a pipe dream, but we’ve been seeing Sonic Team do some wondrous things recently