DON'T buy another plugin before watching this video (NOT CLICKBAIT)
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2023
- DON'T buy another plugin before watching this video .. it might just save your next production!!
My name is Paul Third and I am a Scottish youtuber / audio engineer / mixing engineer / audio geek. I mostly cover audio engineering related content ranging from audio plugin shootouts / plugin comparisons (acustica audio plugins, universal audio etc etc) to actual analog vs digital / gear vs plugins plugin tests via access analog and mix analog. I even include ddmf plugindoctor tutorials in my plugin reviews so you can be your very own plugin tester and experiment and understand whats actually going on under the hood. I also discuss digital music distribution from time to time and like to give my viewpoint on online music distributors such as onerpm and distrokid.
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What are the plugins in your arsenal that stop you buying other plugins? 🤓
N4, with Tim's stuff i'm covered.
Melda for years now and basic daw plugs. Every now and again something jumps out and impresses.
LA2A from Waves because it’s cheap and good, can’t afford a hardware version to freaking expensive 😊
Kush Novatron and Blyss. Probably because it's the first time I made an effort to get to know the plugins, but I just find them dead easy to get a sound I like.
I've bought almost all the UAD Plugins last year ( UAD Ultimate within their selling discounts ) and really find them really good for what I want
“Plug-ins aren’t Pokémon cards”- Sun Tzu-Quoted by Paul Third
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Such a great saying lol
Ugh god man, this is such underrated advice. Plugin marketing is just outrageous nowadays.
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ya it's really off putting these days.
B-b-b-but Paul, this new plugin has such cute animation. It's bound to sound better.
The whole unison marketing summed up in a sentence 😂
@@PaulThird 😄 Stay safe my friend.
Well said, brother. I've wasted so much money on stupid plugins over the years. It's down right embarrassing.
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Dude you're too funny. I mean you are hilarious. I can't understand for the life of myself why your channel isn't over 1 million subscribers. Anyhow, I agree with you. I recently started mixing in Harrison mix bus Version 9. Now I know how you feel about Harrison's claims but I don't want to get into that right now. What I found through mixing with mix bus Version 9 is that I don't need as many plugins because GUI is laid out like a traditional mixer and it forces you to use what you have like having a traditional mixer. So I don't go for trying to grab multiple plugins I just use the built-in EQ and then compression and saturation that's inside of the software Channel strips and I've been getting great results. The only time I grabbed a specialty plug-in is when I want to add something to sweeten up the 2-buss or a sub group.
I don't like the channel strip plugin but I've heard a lot of great things about working in the daw 🤓
I think that being a freeware guy early in my mixing career helped me a lot. I only purchase plug-ins that specifically help with what I believe the deficiencies in my mixing style are. Master the basics and you master the mix. Great advice!
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This great advice is also universal as l have seen the same dynamic at play with photography and video creators obsessing about gear so much that it takes away from their creativity and feeds into the never-ending commercialist rabbithole of incessant acquisition & hoarding of gear. These days, when l look at online "tutorials" or "tips" of any kind, l check to see if their channel focuses more on gear or creativity/creating. I believe many artists have been lost in the fog of gear, shit is sad.
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Your opening statements on this video nailed it Paul. I bought too much Acustica plugins, thanks to your informative reviews! LOL. I like what i get from those plugins though, haha.
We live and learn haha
I rarely buy plugins, but i watch you because you're a cool dude
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Great talk . Just reinstall OS and my main DAW and start taking note which plugins should be installed in my fresh system . Plugins which make speed up my workflow I hope . Thanks for insight and advices
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Legendary video 🎉 you deserve alot more recognition!
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This video also is for electronic music makers , so much of your favorite music was made with not the most cutting edge gear.
Some of my my favorite sounds were made with FM8.
Not chasing the hot CURRENT thing when you probably have enough tools is my mantra
That being said Glitchmachines Subvert 2 was ten bucks. I HAD TO
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FM8 has a dated interface, but its not like there are any new FM/PM synthesis techniques over the past 40 years so its pretty much does everything you'd need. Dexed and Operator also do almost everything unless you want some very complex routing not in one of their "algorithm" presets. In which case get my free M4L synth ;)
Wow, what a timing! I have a video out today about pretty much the exact same general topic - use the gear you already have (from a perspective of a guitar player, who the last days found himself again being blocked creatively by GAS and the excuse of "if I have THAT, THEN I can achieve what I want").
It really seems like big portions of the market are flooded with gear-launches, hype-trains and marketing campaigns, since this video and this topic in general seems to resonate with a lot of people at the same time.
I'm glad it's been well received 🤓🤓
I took a step back a couple weeks ago and listed out what I needed in my studio to get my music sounding better. I had a couple plugins in my list. When I ranked them in order of need the plugins went to the bottom. I updated my interface to the EVO 16, got a new microphone United Studio Twin 87 and got some new 6L6 tubes for my dead Fender amp🤘 Have a great weekend Paul!
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Such an important message. I've sunk plenty of money into getting this that and the other plugin, emulator, etc. but it was costly and exhausting. a couple of years ago I made a deliberate effort to minimize my workflow to about 1-2 plugins per type of effect, and my mixes have greatly improved since then. Every once in a while I find that I truly can't get what I need out of one of those plugins and I go digging for another, but about 90% of the time I get what I need from that small selection. It also allowed me to get extremely familiar with them, which takes so much guess work out of the mixing process.
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Well said! I I love using the stock Studio One plugins and Metric Halo EQ/KHS free plugins. Amazing sound and nearly everything there. Some mixers get every plugin because they load producer sessions directly, and they need to have the plugins to load the session.
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I noticed this with me bout a year ago, me now I go by what I hear. and I tend to use the plugin that can help me fix the problem the fastest and easiest. Doing this I spend less time mixing/mastering and I noticed my final product comes out crisp, loud, and clean. a win is a win. don't over think it.
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Great video lad. Thank you for making this :D
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Good stuff Paul.
I listen to my friends who work in industries like broadcasting, and it's like listening to someone talking from the future.
In parallel creative industries to ours, tools seem so much more focused on achieving a certain result with an improved workflow, and less graft to get the job done.
So much bandwidth in the music tech industry is taken up by marketing tools that are trying to recreate the past.
Obviously the classic tools deserve their place in any producers/engineers toolkit, but our industry is so focused on recreating what was, rather than how we move forward.
In part, I think it's because so many hobbyists make up a large chunk of the brands income, and Pros only make up a small proportion of their income.
That means that the majority influence where our tech goes, and how it is marketed to make profit. That's why we're in this endless loop of plug in releases that claim to capture the essence of hardware classics. It gives people the chance to feel like they own something that is out of reach. It's potent.
Also look at how audio software platforms are being brought up by investment firms. It's big money for them.
Obviously that's not 100% true for all audio software, and innovation is clearly happening in both music creation and mixing tools, it just takes a lot of wading through marketing to find what works. Which is always what works for you.
I'd love to see more software tools adapt to the tools of the day, and move things forward incorporating what has worked from the past in the mix, while keeping us focused on our ears, how we use and develop our skills, and how what we're listening to makes us feel.
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Fantastic video, as real as it gets.
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I always respect people who are willing to evolve their opinions. I've always thought Acustica takes up way more DSP than Logic Pro stock plugs.. Probably just added phase distortion. Kudos, bro.
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Totally agree. Ear training is crucial! Knowing why you are editing/adjusting and not just being a slave to the visuals of the frequency spectrum. Nowadays, there are too many eye-candy distractions. Its music man! By the way. Ive got waaayyy too many plugins...
Yeah that's why I started creating macros in studio one where I can so I don't need to look at gui's
Really good advice. So true the listener doesn't know what you used. All that matters if the song sounds good.
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I probably bought 1 plugin in the last 5 years.
Professionally I use freeware because there's usually no danger of them stopping working, but also to prove a point!
I love Chris Basefords last interview, he basically says "if you need topend then grab a plugin that gives you topend boost it and move on! "
And it's true that's all there's it's to it.
The in issue will always be the ear training (knowing you need that topend) not the tool. Any arguments over the type of topend from what type of device are purely arbitrary at this point.
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Great advice here Paul, we need to become au fait with stock plugins before moving on to others.
I think we should become au fait even demoing any plugin. That's what the demo should be for. Too many buy and then learn it, some never do and then get distracted by the next plugin offering
The "oohhh piece of candy.." meme works best for me haha
Hi Paul, Thank you for the video, was wondering what your thoughts are on the stock eq in studio one. Are they enough to be your all round Digital Eq?
Yeah nothing wrong it
Absolutely agree. My go-to compressor is the Logic Compressor--stock! And I own Waves and many other 3rd party titles. Why do I use it? Because I'm the most familiar with it.
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Good stuff, fear, doubt, overthinking all stifle creativity.
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A fun little bus mixing tip I could share would be to use a mid-side EQ, and dip some of the low end on the side. Can help tighten up a mix. Magical.
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I go through a lot of the same stuff you mentioned. Especially focusing in on one part and loosing sight of the big picture. I have worked on a Kick sound for an hour and when I listened the next day it was total shit.
So this was a very valuable video and it was fucking hilarious as well!
Thanks!
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Great advice, Paul. I'm only filling holes in my plugin kit now and only when I can afford them. (and they're on sale! 🤣)
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Well said sir! 🙂
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I can get through just about any mix with 1 SSL EQ, 1 "digital" EQ, 1 opto compressor, 1 vca compressor, 1 reverb, and 1 delay. Until you can do that focus on learning how to efficiently and effectively use what you already have. You are just wasting time and money any other way. I used to buy every new (and old lol) plugin under the sun thinking it would be the solution to my problem. I just didn't realize yet that I was the problem haha!! I wanted the tools to do the work for me. That's not how this works, trust me! People overthink this whole mixing thing way to much. Keep it simple and you will find things get much much easier! Great video Paul, thanks man!
Ohhh and by the way. I have had a handful of those clients that sent me notes back asking me to "narrow the Q" haha!!!!! 🤦🏻♂
They can get to fuck! 🤣🤣
Great video.
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I realised this a couple of years ago. These days, the same 12 plugins do 90% of my mixing. I know them, I like them, and they get me to where I need to be quickly.
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And what are this 12 Plugins?
@@HeartleaderMusic With respect, I think you've missed the point. If I told you what my 12 plugins were, that information wouldn't help you at all. My choices of plugin is right for me - but wouldn't necessarily be right for you.
This is really great advice!
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A plugin I’m using a lot is access analog. Slap an LA2A or 1176 compressor (when needed) or a 1064 channel for EQ, and the neve MBT on the master. I’m trying to stop using a bunch of plugins.
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When you are getting paid for a mix you tend to just use whatever does the job quickly. Spending time A/B ing what eq to use on the snare just means you earn less for every hour you work. It can be hard to apply that mindset when mixing your own stuff though. That often takes waaaaay longer and turns into a plugin shootout rather than a mix. Theres usualy a deadline when mixing for someone else as well.
Yeah I'm glad I did all that shootout stuff before I started to mix for clients. I just go through my template and get on with it
@@PaulThird It's funny because pretty much everyone that gets into mixing etc goes through that phase. Or over editing stuff perfectly to the grid etc. Nowadays the thought of having to learn a new plugin turns me off buying anything 😂 unless it's a useful tool that makes mixing quicker. Spend money on monitoring as that makes the biggest difference as you have been mentioning in your vids.
I am still searching for the plug-in that will get my clients' music played on the local radio stations. CLA and Serban Ghnea seem to be in possession of that plug-in but not myself.
Apparently it's called "well produced recordings".. Fuck knows what that is 😜🤣
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Nice rant Paul lol Your swear box will be over flowing this week :) Love you videos so entertaing and full of good content :)
Was with weegies last weekend.. Bad influence 🤣
Paul it makes you real and passionate about what you do and thats a good thing :)@@PaulThird
I’ve been part of the problem 😮😅 Great insight
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Dear Paul, besides of making a living out of producing music where i have to work quickly, i still am a geek that loves to play around and experiment. On top of that, i guess you know yourself, its extremely fun to find out which clone can match the hardware. It really makes me happy, and when i work again i use what i have found out in my playtime.... Also I need new tools to keep motivation high.😅
It was fun for me but after the 5th or 6th comparison it just got boring being honest
@@PaulThird well you did that quite intensivly... Pretty sure you will do some geek comparisons again. But no matter what i think you have changed the perception of plugins thanks to your videos.
Getting the most out of Kyma, the creative tool from Symbolic Sound. No need for purchasing an endless amount of plugins thus saving myself big bucks in the long run. I've acquired personal confidence and knowledge learning from Carla and Kurt, the creators themselves, with help from the friendly Kyma community at large. Highly recommended for all sorts of music projects.
I've never heard of it!
Yes. If you can articulate what you want a new plugin for, and what you want it to do that your current plugins (including stock) can't -- in actual sentences -- that's one thing. But if it's just an undefinable want, work harder with what you have -- you can probably achieve it.
I didn't take quite so long to learn this as I maybe would have, because I went through this with effect pedals. Once I said "No new pedals until I can explain what actual song in our set list I want to use this sound on," I didn't stop buying pedals, but the ones I bought I actually needed, and actually helped me sound better.
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I have an easy approach to plugins:
Get the one out of the bunch out there, that I like the most, and never worry about the next releases.
Best example is Superior Drummer 3:
Got it in 2018 or 2019, haven't been interested in any other drum library ever since and still got the best today imo.
Similar with the UAD Studer and Pultec plugin, Fabfilter Pro-Q3, PA Shadow Hills, Pigments 4 and the list goes on.
For guitar and bass, there have been new hot amp sims every month the last couple of years (especially guitars) and I had too much interest in any new stuff. So I got pedals and a rack preamp instead and never have to worry about any new amp sim ever again, finding myself in absolute disinterest with those now too.
Sure, some of the things you like the most can cost a bit more than alternatives, but it gives you exactly the sounds you live and need, and instead of buying 4 different ones, you buy 1 product. In the end, you don't worry about new releases, save time, be the happiest you can be about your sounds from the start and save money as well. That shift in mindset and consumption changed it all for me.
Important message here, Paul. Thank you!
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Totally true Paul.
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90% of a good mix is knowing what to KEEP from the rough. Changing everything for the sake is THE amateur move. THE BEST investment I have made is in a good A/B comprarison plugin. I got REFERENCE from Mastering The Mix, and its LUFS matched A/B to reference the roughmix always at the same level as my mix. Then you Realise for rea what you are competing with and what you should KEEP, which is VITAL. There are bunches of other good A/B plugins. Its the only thing that I could truly not live without.
I use reference but I do sometimes find it's lufs match can be a bit buggy sometimes
@@PaulThird I was so excited I capitalised random words... meh lufs matching Is still a darnsight better than subcociously keepin the rough quieter and impressing yourself with your work, which seems ubiquitous amongst engineers.
This is a great video Paul, as usual. It's great advice. I stopped buying new plugins for a while now and I'm better off financially and realistically. Plugin marketing is demonic!
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paul you are going to kill me with laughter with your transitions😂😂😂
I liked the wee music pieces I added in this week 🤣
great advice
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My new wiev is use many stock plugin as I could... And an last video you said emulation plugins made too much saturation... So I recreate emulations in my daw ( fl studio ( in patcher )) .
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No plugin will stop the desire for new plugins. It is like what drink will stop your desire for alcohol...addiction like gas is in your mind.
That's why need plugin castration 😂
Lol, intro was so on point
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Well said. I agree with everything.
But sometimes (sometimes!) you want to pay for inspiration) Personally, new acquisitions inspire me. Even if I won't use it later, but here I am reading the manual, watching "tips & tricks" and working with new inspiration).
But this obsession of manufacturers, trying to pass off every product as something unique just fucked me up.
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Great advice Paul, stopped buying plugins a couple years ago, never looked back. O just got an email my plugin Alliance subscripion have a new addition, and Kush subscrition. Just gonna check now....
The subs will always get you 🤣
My very philosophy of mixing... plugins are tools to fix the things that annoy me, or enhance in ways that only they can do! I build my own plugins in Melda's MXXX which is perfect because "off the shelf" plugins usually fall short in some way, and I hate "workarounds"! I'm a certified (or certifiable) control freak 😎
Melda‘s rent-to-own deal is probably the only thing I would recommend getting to anyone who wants to go beyond the possibilities of stock plugins. It’s incredibly good and covers pretty much everything someone will need in their entire mixing engineer or producer life.
If I genuinely had melda mxxx from the start I would've just made my own plugins but I do use meldas own. Mautoalign on every mix and even mautostereofix will find it's use in premixing. I don't utilise melda as much as probably should but I just don't have the time these days
I spent my first few years mixing with stock Ableton before going down the rabbit hole with plug-ins. When you learn all of the In-N-Out stock plug-ins, you can better get a sense of what they’re limitations are, and how to use plug-ins as tools.
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Same here while using Reason before they implemented vst. Went into the rabbithole immediately only to come back from it. Hpf lpf are some of my best friends now.
At this point, playing with plugins is basically just a fun hobby of mine. Yes, I have way too many already, but there's always one more I might find a use for. :)
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You can experiment and play with differences, but just don't do it in an actual mix!
I have days off where I'll just play with stuff to put it through it's paces. And if it impresses me it stays in the plugin folder.
Another reason freeware is great is because there's no sunk cost fallacy so you don't mind deleting the ones you won't use.
This reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend. I don't think I need to have 20 varied SSL console emulations. I just need what works for me. Too many plugins = Decision Paralysis.
Decision paralysis is a c*nt haha
Beyond what's already stock in Reaper, & what is freely available from Tukan, the only plugin I'd never want to be without is iZotope RX & the Mouth De-Click.
I did a clean install on a new SSD & haven't put any of the 5h1t back on that I'd accumulated previously & never use.
Izotope rx is on every voiceover I do 🤓
Yeah there's definitely a lot of cash grabs out there but when I saw that video... I ended up hitting the not interested button. He was on a tear with very little real understanding to speak of at all. Not that he's wrong about not needing to buy a bunch of EQ plugins! 😜
I stopped buying new plugins after: Soothe2, Gulfoss, UAD Fatso, Analog Obsession, Fetish, Ableton Glue Compressor or Logic Stock Compressor, Purple, Pink, Taupe, El-Rey, and Sand from Acustica Audio, Pro-L by FabFilter. I don’t need anything else. Stock plugins from Ableton or Logic for effects.
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Aye Ken what you are saying! I've spent WAY too much money on plugins. It's an addiction! And a bad one! However, lust for guitar gear I can get behind. I'd really love that beautiful white Gretsch you have in the background :D
Everybody says that. That's why I bought it as it was limited edition and Im too tight for a white falcon haha
@@PaulThird Love my short scale Gretsch bass - cheap as curry and chips and great for a guitarist that can't really play bass!
Took me a while, but mix wise I'm pretty sorted with a handful of "desert island" plugins.
Unfortunately, production and sound design wise, new sounds and fx plugins are irresistible 😬
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Horizon Waves bought it early on without knowing what I have…and I go and check if I have it there first. And surely enough have stopped from buying a lot of plugins 😂
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I find that my threshold for a plugin making me actually interested in it is super high, and the market is full of shovelware. Beautiful shiny UI shovelware.
Shovelware is a good term. That and crippleware haha
i should probably watch this video every day before I turn on my computer
I'm not gonna argue with that 😂
Get what you need, not what you wants - that's a pro tip for real!
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This is such RUclips advice 😂 having new toys is inspiring!
Not if its something you already have. I don't understand how buying another ssl or neve emulation is inspiring
@@PaulThird well for a lot of people it is inspiring. Having something that excites you as part of your process can really help, like having a new guitar or synthesiser. Not for everyone of course. The fact that you can demo plugins before you buy them help of course so you're not buying blindly or based on other people's opinions. It's an expensive thing to do so not for everyone of course. Each to their own. Having made hundreds of records it's nice to throw new toys in the mix. I bought all the teletone audio instruments recently and did a very fruitful writing camp which was driven by getting inspiring sounds to work with, the process also included trying out loads of different mixing tools I've collected over time. I tried tried my collection of Arturia channel strips along with a bunch of other stuff. I have a growing vocabulary of tools in my head. For most people who are in the process of learning though it is overwhelming to have too many choices whilst trying to learn the basics.
Luckily, (sort of) my computer is 10-12 years old, and doesn’t run many newer plug-ins.
I have a few that I like, and the rest are just stock Logic Pro X plug-ins. What I prefer to do, is reamp, either though other speakers/amps, or just through the many guitar pedals I have kicking around.
Let's hope you don't have to upgrade soon then.. It only starts with one....... 🤣
@@PaulThird oh, I’m sure I will soon.
95% of what you need is already in your DAW, the other 5% is mostly creative stuff not included. Sure there are better reverbs/EQ's/Compressors on the market but I think they are only situationally better(except really good natural reverbs).
Led Zeppelin II was recorded all over the place using what was on hand and mixed in 2 days on some basic console in NY and it sounds lovely to this day.
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Damn, just bought a plug-in before I went to RUclips and clicked this video 😂
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Did you genuinely need it though? 😅
I've been really liking Izotope's Neutron. It's everything you need in 1 plugin. Run the AI and then modify it's settings to fit your song.
I've been liking ozone 11 at the very end of the mix 🤓
I use Ozone 10 as well. The mid side eq presets are a big help.@@PaulThird
When a new plugin comes out and everyone's promoting it like it's the big new thing just remember to ask yourself if you already have something just like it.
Good mental check 🤓
I watch this channel in hopes of learning new techniques. All plugins I use are either stock to my DAW (Reason Studios 11), free or open source. Over the years, I have collected hundreds of these types of plugins. However, I only use a few. I am not affected by promotions of new plugins. I believe it is based on knowledge of how to achieve your result with the simplest approach possible. I never understood why people buy plugins from companies that just recycle old algorithms and slap a new interface and name on it.
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I started off in the olden days recording on a tascam-Porta 4. With a few guitar pedals for effects. The sound wasn’t brilliant, but it did the job and Things were more creative back then.
Fast forward to getting a computer with one of those there DAW thangs and it’s a different world. The technology at your fingertips is better than most recording studios from the 70s & 80s.
Now there’s too many reverbs and delays to choose from - when a Melos would have done a better job most of the time and it’s more tactile.
It can get too distracting having so much choice and before you know it you’ve lost track of what you was supposed to be doing in the first place.
I like many have and will no doubt continue to have G.A.S. & fall for marketing tricks and buy another plug-in some day.
stock plugins in most DAWs are excellent quality these days. No need to spend more, most of the time.
Save the money you was going to spend on the next plug-in or two and put it towards buying yourself that new mic , or instrument.
Or go to the bingo with the fatlass from down the road. You never know, It might inspire a new song .
That song could be the one song that the world gets to hear.’
Or you could just buy your 15th reverb plug-in to add to to the collection that no one will be able to tell the difference between that one & the other 14 reverbs.
*extract from “my rusty trombone” magazine - when Big Chief Humming Bobbar talked about recording songs
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The last plugin that I purchased was Soothe 2 when it first came out. I might be one of the rare breeds that doesn't like a ton of software. Though hardware is a different story altogether.
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i started back when with cubase 3... bak then u needed plugins caz the default were merely gain, phase, eq, delay, a terrible compressor... nowadays the default set in the daw is more than I ever had even with purchasing 10 or 20 plugins... so yeah, with current gen software u should be able to do dam near everything with default.
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Yikes UAD reoccurring nightmare 😢 until i picked up my lunch box and found with a few pieces of hardware i used less and less plugins and everything became less complex. Pro Q and L and hardware gcomp
I know you don't like Waves, but the Scheps omni channel 2 is actually a really good tool. Does it have the best saturation, the best EQ, the best compressor and so on .... definitely not, but it's still a damn good tool for mixing :-)
Whatever works for you 🤓
lol a very polite answer@@PaulThird
Furst Eq. That's your 1st Paul Third branded plugin mate. I can see it now "Furst EQ - the quicker you mix the better you mix." You're welcome ;)
The line would be "furst, second, furd" haha
The thing is, Paul, that the technology has improved massively in the last few years, and plugins are emerging which are far better than previous incarnations. Case in point is noise reduction - AI has transformed how effective this can be - examples are Accentize and Hush. Remix software is also improving in leaps and bounds, eg Acon Remix.
And in the console field, Acustica has also developed its tech far beyond what it used to be - examples are Mystic and the new Salt EQ.
So while I agree with your general point, that no-one needs more versions of the same old thing, it is unarguable that new tech has improved the quality of plugins enormously, and thus made redundant a lot of the older ones. Which means I agree with you that more is less - new plugins like the above reduce the amount of the old plugins you need.
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@@PaulThird I wonder what that means🤔
It's my polite way of acknowledging your comment 🤓
OK, got it, I thought you were having a laugh 🙂
GAS (PAS?) is hell of a drug.
After 20 years I barely see any new plugin worth buying or even trying. I have tons of plugins and I'm using only a few now. Even that I'm working on variety of genres. But I had to go through the path of aquiring all those plugins to finaly learn that 80% of them are useless (or are useless for specific genres). Myths, legends and misinformation doesn't help, epsecially now in the era where everyone on YT is a mixing/production expert.
RUclips has definitely added to the problem
I find that you're right about 80% about this. And let's be real, 80% of the mix is a lot. But... few months ago I started doing more and more tests (for my wallet's sanity). One of the most drastic examples I can share was that I obtained an N4 sampling of API 2500 and compared it against Waves and Acqua Pink on drums. Since then I can almost tell in a mix who used the actual hardware and who used Waves (surely almost nobody uses Pink). I understand all of us think "most listeners can't tell the difference", but I think they rather can't point their finger at it and articulate it, but people can definitely tell how a lot of mixes in the last decade sound the same. Obviously this comes down to a lot of factors, samples etc... But I think the sound of these plugins leave an imprint in our ears, may that be conscious or not. And I think there is also value in giving something a demo run and find that it made you discover something in your mix. I most certainly learned how to mix cymbals through API EQ presets lol.
I have to disagree. I've done so many tests where people claim to hear shit and completely fail a blind test, or claim to hear shit that is scientifically impossible haha
I was speaking to a UK based engineer who remixed feedback from an artist, sent the old mix by accident and the artist was like cool... Cheers, perfect 😂😂
Imo Mixes sound the same because they are mixed and mastered toward streaming. They don’t want massive changes in the mix from one song to another while in a playlist. This and the overuse of spectral balancing super flat midranges
I really wish that when I tried to learn mixing someone had sat me down and said "Ian, the most important thing you can do early on is just sit and listen to stuff through your monitoring system. Try to recognise what a well mixed track sounds like. However many frequency zones you decide are real try to learn what too much or too little in each of those zones sounds like. And for gods sake if there's a big glaring problem in one of them try to fix that first because that's the big apparent problem that's making your mix sound bad primarily. There's zero point in understanding how all the cool mixing tricks are done if your ears can't tell you where the problems are because you'll just misapply the techniques in the wrong places."
I'd have saved a fortune, but I probably wouldn't have listened because that sounds boring and is hard work whereas buying plugins is fun and there's virtual knobs you can fiddle with.
Related to this ... I feel like my ears have only started properly IDing things in the last wee while, it's been a gradual thing and because it's taken so long to properly hear things I've been fighting with my debut EP for ages. Recently as I'm now hearing better I've found myself working much faster, solving issues easier and nearing a point where I'm happy enough to send it off to mastering pretty soon I hope
It's amazing how important the boring stuff is and how most don't give a fuck about it at the start (I was one)
Going to engineer in other peoples studios where they have a different set of plugins available is always very telling. Fabfilter always seems to find its way over there though...
It's the "industry standard"
Well because they are simple and they just buy the entire bundle. And you get tons of upgrades forever.
Yeah, but what plugins should I use though?
Depends on what you are struggling with in your mixes
lol I see my humour got lost in transit. I was just taking a jab at you saying we don't need to be buying all the plugins. I'm actually on a free plugin journey right now to see if I really need all those paid ones. The only paid plugins I'm using right now are the fabfilter stuff and melodyne. I can't live without those just yet @@PaulThird
You're just trying to steal the pleasure of having another piece of "that analogue warmth" in our arsenals. 😂😂😂
The only warmth you'll feel is from your wallet burning 🤣
@@PaulThird Like buying a 50th pair of shoes - it might be fun, but it won't get you any better in walking to your everyday destination.
Correct
The pulteq of my dream😂😂😂 this guy is crazy
DJ guy will learn one day... One day 😂
It’s the same with audio interfaces lol you can get good quality with a focusrite solo you don’t need a Apollo plus you can barely hear the difference between the two… just get a good mic then mix it
If the song and source material is well recorded through good mics and the performances are stellar none of that stuff will matter
I sat in my Studio just yesterday and contemplated how much money I have wasted on plugins, I fell for the hype hook line and sinker, and now I’m using just a small number of plugins and my mixes have greatly improved, big waste of money
We've all been there at some point. I did that with waves back in the day 😢
Agreed. The plug-in 'thing' overall has gotten way out of hand.
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Dope video but it over-generalizes why people buy lots of plugins. I, personally, just like to acquire additonal dsp's to add to my collection, and have the financial means to not be adversely affected by doing so. Plugins buying is a much cheaper habit, comparatively than having a shoe, clothes, food, gambling, etc spending habit. As with anything, the issues isn't the spending itself, but the financial effects of spending...also,the decsion-making process of tool choice, in a session, is seperate issue. You can have a very limited collection, and still be indecisive to tool choice.
It's youtube which has a short attention span so had to condense. Any longer it would have flopped haha
Yeah Paul, you're right!, you are right! ...but look at those new shiny plugins on sale!! look at those! 🤣🤓🤣
I haven't buy any new plugins since I got the Sonible smart bundle, but have been temped by some UAD and SoundToys shiny sale offers 😬
Get some shades on man to blind the shine!!!! Or give your partner your bank card.. Second option will most likely ban all audio related purchases though! 🤣
looks like Paul "the Grey" becomes Paul "the White"
Do you mean the jumpers?
I don’t buy plugins for mixing. I buy plugins for more creative possibilities. So, this naturally curbs the GAS because concepts that truly increase the ability to create something new, are far and few between.
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When I mix vocals I always forget about the dubs/adlibs. Mix the whole thing send it to the artist.
Artist: where are the tags.
Me: 😯😬
Just to highlight how dialed in we get staring at the tree... that we can't see the forest.
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The plugin industry has won
Won a very long time ago with Waves and then plugin alliance