+JoeCnNd Yup. You are correct. On the bottom is the most efficient. However, I wanted to leave the bottom clear for heavy objects. So I stuck them on the side. 😀
Sure it is. I did it myself. :) LOL But seriously, all the principles are the same. If you don't have a break, then you can use angled steel. You can also get metal studs from lowes or homedepot for the structure. If you don't have a welder, use a riveter or a screw gun. You actually should just use a riveter or a screw gun. Welding was a mistake. :) Thanks.
I like that you added the heat shield. looks like they where recessed as well. I hear that stops it from burning and stops clear coating from turning to a ghost on the material
No, it's not resed. I added the shield behind the element to get more heat into the oven and not into the oven wall. My thinking was that the heat shield would absorb the heat coming off the element. Then, with its larger surface area, would heat up the air around it. Keeping the oven wall a bit cooler. I haven't heard that a heat shield helps prevent clears from burning, but it does make sense. The more efficient you can get the heat to transfer into the air, the fewer hot spots that the oven will have. Then you won't get sever temperature spikes while the elements are running.
Internal size is 58x29x30 tall. Cost, if I had to guess, $200-$400. Time, maybe a month of on and off work. Sadly, I didn't monitor cost or time. So I can't say exactly.
610GARAGE ok. I was looking at ovens online and found 5x5x7 for $6200 and eventually I would need to buy one because I am starting to gather everything to begin powder coating for people and shops locally. Thank you.
Sorry, I didn't make the heater elements. They are replacement elements for ovens. Here is a link to where I bought the elements. Hope it helps. www.mccombssupply.com/range-oven-bake-heating-element-316075104-10-pack-for-frigidaire-ch6078/
Sorry for the delay. I used a PID controller. Similar to this one. smile.amazon.com/Upgraded-Version-ELEGIANT-Temperature-Controller/dp/B0146L1NKE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476159012&sr=8-1&keywords=pid+controller
I just used stranded 18 gauge going from the PID to the SSR. Thats on the outside of the insulation. I used high temperature wire going from the elements to the SSR. I can't find exactly what I used, but it was something like TGGT.
Sure. It depends on what you're using it for and how you are building it. I used 18 gauge (I think) because I was planing on putting heavier objects in the oven. If you are building a good frame, then 22 will be absolutely fine. Sorry for the delayed response.
I am also trying to build an oven myself just on a bit of a larger scale. I have 20ft container which I will be using to make my oven however I am having a bit of trouble with how i should go about installing the heating element. I was hoping you would be able to help out with some pointers?!?! Thank you!
Yup, that's bigger. :) Your going to have a tough time heating a 20ft shipping container to 400f with just heater elements. You will need either gas or IR. If you go gas, you need a heat exchanger. You can't burn gas inside the oven since it will produce moisture. Infrared heat lamp (IR) would be best since they heat the object and not the surrounding air. But the IR lights are expensive. And I'm not very familiar with IR, so I can't be much help with that. If you have enough electrical power for electrical heater elements, then mount them low and put guards on them. If you are using elements similar to mine, then just make a box that will allow you to run the wires out the bottom. Use high temperature wire obviously. Thats expensive, so get it outside to cooler air so that you can use standard pvc coated wire in conduit. Keep the conduit off the side of the oven since the sides will most likely get fairly hot. Just a half inch or so to get air around the conduit. You will also need circulating fans for an oven of that size.
Eduardo Castillo This is the worst drawing ever, but I hope that it conveys how I wired it. 610bob.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/OvenControllerWirirng.png
I just measured. Its 5'x2' 6"x2' 6". I think what I did was cut a 5' wide sheet in half. I was trying not to waste a lot of material. That is also inside dimension. Need to add 4" (I think, but I'm probably wrong) to get outside dimensions.
Thanks. I got that controller from amazon. I've included a link, but there don't appear to be selling that particular model any more. However, you can find these controllers all over the place. There are several different versions on amazon, ebay and electronic stores. Just make sure that the controller can read fahrenheit if you need that. And make sure the solid state relay can handle the amps and that the controller is at the correct voltage, obviously. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0087O6S2A
LOL My dad has an hvac business, so we have a lot of stuff to make ductwork, stands for units, and working on our trucks. And has nothing to do with the fact that we just love tools. ;)
how long does the oven take to get at 400°F? i test ran my oven for the first time and about 15 minutes into it it was barely at 94°C (about 200F) wondering if its normal or whats going on. Thanks!
Hard to say. It does take my oven 10-20 minutes to get to temperature. I would like to add another element or two to my oven. You probably need to do the same thing. While it is possible, I don't know how to calculate the wattage required to heat a given space with a certain r value. So I guessed. :) Also see if your elements are glowing. Mine are about a dark red. If there not glowing, or glowing very dimly, they may be bad, or there meant for a higher voltage.
610bob my elements do not glow but i do know they heat up. how much? not sure they are two 240 volt elements and i have a 240 volt power line coming from a line running through my garage. could my line that im coming off of be too weak?
They should be slightly dimmer than a toaster heating element. It's possible they just don't glow, but that would be a first for me. Not that I work on a ton of ovens or anything. But since your oven dosn't seem to be heating, I would say that there is a problem. Check your voltage at the elements. If it's not close to 240v, then you may have undersized a wire or you have a poor connection somewhere. Also, you may want to bypass any temperature control system that you have. There may be a problem with that.
610bob im running all my wires on 10g. it seems like everything is connected right. maybe im not getting enough power from my line coming from the garage?
It is possible. Check voltage at the elements. If it is not close to 240v, then you know you have a power issue. Then the question is where. check voltage somewhere in your garage while the oven is running. If it is low, then yes, you need larger wire going to your garage. If no, then you have something wrong within the oven., or something wrong with that circuit. Could be a bad circuit breaker. If getting to the elements is too difficult, then just check the voltage in your garage while the oven is running. If the voltage is low, then you don't have enough power going to your garage.
As soon as you used that 12ft brake it instantly wasn't a DIY project. Regardless, good work.
Adam King you can outsource the cutting
shear?
Adam King i have a 12 ft brake.. looking for a diy..
Ino that metel bender is bigger than my garage😂😂
Hey Josh, can you ship that break to my house so I can build an oven also, I need to do 2 bicycles. Great job my friend.
Bro can u give me an estimate as to how much this cost and would u be willing to build one for me
Link to the Amazon page for this
Since hot air rises would it be better to put it on the bottom or to the side as you have it.
+JoeCnNd Yup. You are correct. On the bottom is the most efficient. However, I wanted to leave the bottom clear for heavy objects. So I stuck them on the side. 😀
Nice work! Not quite DIY though.
Sure it is. I did it myself. :) LOL
But seriously, all the principles are the same. If you don't have a break, then you can use angled steel. You can also get metal studs from lowes or homedepot for the structure. If you don't have a welder, use a riveter or a screw gun. You actually should just use a riveter or a screw gun. Welding was a mistake. :)
Thanks.
what is that thermostat called
It's a PID temperature controller.
amazon.com/IMAGE-SSR-25DA-Auto-tuning-Temperature-Controller/dp/B0087O6S2A/
I made it with Avasva handbooks !
220v is the way to go
nice
thanks. great build!
OK will do. I been drawing up plans. and did the meausrments today. I wanted a 5x3 but man that's a lot of waste. I see why you did a 5x2 oven.
Yea. If you plan it just right, you may be able to use a lot of the fall off. But it is a lot of fall off. Maby you can find 3' wide sheet metal.
I like that you added the heat shield. looks like they where recessed as well. I hear that stops it from burning and stops clear coating from turning to a ghost on the material
No, it's not resed. I added the shield behind the element to get more heat into the oven and not into the oven wall. My thinking was that the heat shield would absorb the heat coming off the element. Then, with its larger surface area, would heat up the air around it. Keeping the oven wall a bit cooler.
I haven't heard that a heat shield helps prevent clears from burning, but it does make sense. The more efficient you can get the heat to transfer into the air, the fewer hot spots that the oven will have. Then you won't get sever temperature spikes while the elements are running.
What were the interior dimensions? And about how much did this cost in materials? As well as time in labor? Thank you.
Internal size is 58x29x30 tall. Cost, if I had to guess, $200-$400. Time, maybe a month of on and off work. Sadly, I didn't monitor cost or time. So I can't say exactly.
610GARAGE ok. I was looking at ovens online and found 5x5x7 for $6200 and eventually I would need to buy one because I am starting to gather everything to begin powder coating for people and shops locally. Thank you.
No problem and good luck.
excuse me could you plz tell me some question
i want to know how long of heater wire ?
Sorry, I didn't make the heater elements. They are replacement elements for ovens. Here is a link to where I bought the elements. Hope it helps.
www.mccombssupply.com/range-oven-bake-heating-element-316075104-10-pack-for-frigidaire-ch6078/
wow. nice setup. thanks for sharing.
No problem. Thanks for watching.
This guy just has a whole ass press brake in his garage and I think that's bad ass
LOL Thanks. But it's for work. I work at my families small HVAC business. We use it to make our own ductwork.
What controls did you buy
Sorry for the delay. I used a PID controller. Similar to this one.
smile.amazon.com/Upgraded-Version-ELEGIANT-Temperature-Controller/dp/B0146L1NKE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476159012&sr=8-1&keywords=pid+controller
what ga did you use to wire for SSR and pid and heat elements
I just used stranded 18 gauge going from the PID to the SSR. Thats on the outside of the insulation. I used high temperature wire going from the elements to the SSR. I can't find exactly what I used, but it was something like TGGT.
could you have made the inner box out of 22ga as well?
Sure. It depends on what you're using it for and how you are building it. I used 18 gauge (I think) because I was planing on putting heavier objects in the oven. If you are building a good frame, then 22 will be absolutely fine.
Sorry for the delayed response.
correct. can't wait to start on mine.
Take pictures if you can. I would love to see what you build.
man I love this video. I watch it everyday. lol.
Thanks, I feel unworthy for such an honor. Kindof also makes me feel that I should have wore a better shirt. :)
I got the framing done
Cool.
What u charge to make one
Sorry, I don't currently have the time or the room to produce theses.
Nice metal brake !
LOL thanks. It's my boss'/dad's. We do hvac and use it to make ductwork. It works great.
I am also trying to build an oven myself just on a bit of a larger scale. I have 20ft container which I will be using to make my oven however I am having a bit of trouble with how i should go about installing the heating element. I was hoping you would be able to help out with some pointers?!?! Thank you!
Yup, that's bigger. :) Your going to have a tough time heating a 20ft shipping container to 400f with just heater elements. You will need either gas or IR. If you go gas, you need a heat exchanger. You can't burn gas inside the oven since it will produce moisture.
Infrared heat lamp (IR) would be best since they heat the object and not the surrounding air. But the IR lights are expensive. And I'm not very familiar with IR, so I can't be much help with that.
If you have enough electrical power for electrical heater elements, then mount them low and put guards on them. If you are using elements similar to mine, then just make a box that will allow you to run the wires out the bottom. Use high temperature wire obviously. Thats expensive, so get it outside to cooler air so that you can use standard pvc coated wire in conduit. Keep the conduit off the side of the oven since the sides will most likely get fairly hot. Just a half inch or so to get air around the conduit. You will also need circulating fans for an oven of that size.
thanks for the tip!
No problem.
would you mind sending me a draw up of the wires from wall to extansion to pid to ssr to elements ? id appreciate that
I'll try to work on that over the weekend. I should probably make a video on the controls. :)
610bob thanks!
Eduardo Castillo This is the worst drawing ever, but I hope that it conveys how I wired it.
610bob.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/OvenControllerWirirng.png
2' tall?
I just measured. Its 5'x2' 6"x2' 6". I think what I did was cut a 5' wide sheet in half. I was trying not to waste a lot of material. That is also inside dimension. Need to add 4" (I think, but I'm probably wrong) to get outside dimensions.
great build. explained perfect. where did you happen to pick up your PID control?
thanks
Thanks. I got that controller from amazon. I've included a link, but there don't appear to be selling that particular model any more. However, you can find these controllers all over the place. There are several different versions on amazon, ebay and electronic stores. Just make sure that the controller can read fahrenheit if you need that. And make sure the solid state relay can handle the amps and that the controller is at the correct voltage, obviously.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0087O6S2A
Not sure. It looks like the one I got is the same as REX C-100. Mine is probably a knock off. It doesn't have a model number on the front.
+Mark Gillespe 220V I don't know if I would want to make an oven of this size on 110V That would be a lot of amps.
220v would be your best bet
Glenn Johnson Thats cool.
wow man you have so many tools that I want lmao
LOL My dad has an hvac business, so we have a lot of stuff to make ductwork, stands for units, and working on our trucks. And has nothing to do with the fact that we just love tools. ;)
610bob sure that's what they all say lol
610bob
nice vid there...
+pactedesfous Thanks.
610GARAGE size
how long does the oven take to get at 400°F? i test ran my oven for the first time and about 15 minutes into it it was barely at 94°C (about 200F) wondering if its normal or whats going on. Thanks!
Hard to say. It does take my oven 10-20 minutes to get to temperature. I would like to add another element or two to my oven. You probably need to do the same thing. While it is possible, I don't know how to calculate the wattage required to heat a given space with a certain r value. So I guessed. :)
Also see if your elements are glowing. Mine are about a dark red. If there not glowing, or glowing very dimly, they may be bad, or there meant for a higher voltage.
610bob my elements do not glow but i do know they heat up. how much? not sure they are two 240 volt elements and i have a 240 volt power line coming from a line running through my garage.
could my line that im coming off of be too weak?
They should be slightly dimmer than a toaster heating element. It's possible they just don't glow, but that would be a first for me. Not that I work on a ton of ovens or anything. But since your oven dosn't seem to be heating, I would say that there is a problem.
Check your voltage at the elements. If it's not close to 240v, then you may have undersized a wire or you have a poor connection somewhere. Also, you may want to bypass any temperature control system that you have. There may be a problem with that.
610bob im running all my wires on 10g.
it seems like everything is connected right. maybe im not getting enough power from my line coming from the garage?
It is possible. Check voltage at the elements. If it is not close to 240v, then you know you have a power issue. Then the question is where. check voltage somewhere in your garage while the oven is running. If it is low, then yes, you need larger wire going to your garage. If no, then you have something wrong within the oven., or something wrong with that circuit. Could be a bad circuit breaker.
If getting to the elements is too difficult, then just check the voltage in your garage while the oven is running. If the voltage is low, then you don't have enough power going to your garage.