Okay, so I said at the beginning I watched this early, but then personal stuff got in the way of also finishing the commentary early, and in fact it ended up being a day late. Sorry about that.
Seeing the way Pinkie was comforting Fluttershy was interesting. We don’t see Pinkie acting this way very often(kinda like how Rainbow was considerate of Fluttershy’s flying problem in a certain scene from “Hurricane Fluttershy”) so, that was a nice touch.
Fanatic Mitchell Caballero first appeared in season 4 episode 4, Daring Don't. Chrysalis first appeared on Season 2 Episode 2, Royal Canterlot Wedding. Your argument is incorrect.
27:30 The reason Twilight acted that way was because she wasn't simply frustrated, she was frustrated at Pinkie Pie, because of her previous interaction with the other Pinkie. She jumped into the conclusion that Pinkie hurt Fluttleshy the same way she was hurt. She said "great, you upset Fluttershy, too", the "too" is what mattered.
Twilight assumed that Pinkie upset Fluttershy because the last thing that the saw Pinkie do was be a grouch and upset her. Also because Fluttershy historically isn't that hard to upset and Pinkie's done it before. This is not as OOC as before. The whole point of their apology at the end was that, even if they wouldn't act the way their discorded versions did outright, they still had the same motivations. That's why they can believe it.
+Out-Of-Context Are you saying Twilight's not a perfect character without any character flaws? How could you imply such a thing? My favorite shows always have the characters solve their issues within 2 minutes then fight the villain for 20 minutes.
JROG1989 I feel as though all four of you are right. Chrysalis was acting as though she lost her marbles and I really don't think she was sane to begin with
It's weird that not many analysts/reactors have pointed out the mean six's cutie marks. Twilight and Pinkie Pie's are normal from what I can see. Rainbow Dash's is upside down, Rarity's is violet and upside down, Applejack's apples are green, and Fluttershy's butterflies are blue instead of pink.
I don't even know why a majority of people said that this episode was disappointing, it was enjoyable, it was hilarious. Like haven't they learned anything from "Fame and Misfortune"?
As for some not having learned anything from "Fame and misfortune", that is on the ones who decided to shirk the responsibility and ONLY focus the moral on the _intended_ target audience, and essentially only show bronies as warning examples. I liked that episode, but i did not really felt hit by it either, and it offered no reconciliation or solution for those that did.
Actually real horses see differently then humans. While humans see in 3 main colors and the combinations amount to the full range, horses see mainly blue and yellow. The rest is more like shades and nuances of those two. So the fact that they didn't notice much the discoloration and of the skin and the more green color of AJ's cutie mark can kinda be explained. Rarity is the only one that noticed something strange probably because she is a fashion designer and she probably has a better eye for colors and shades even with a supposedly limited horse vision.
Well, one of the things I liked about the Mean Six is that the Evil Twilight still cared about her friends to the point that she was saying “Our” powers for “our”selves. MOF is everywhere!!
I don't think so, she's supposed to be the opposite of Twilight, who loves her friends and care for them, while this evil twilight just want power and knowledge, and her "friends" are more tools, or at least that's what I think
@@tntmoxy9697Mean Twilight likely wouldn’t have been able to activate them without them too(or at least that what she could have possibly thought)
"The first thing she does is accuse Pinkie of upsetting Fluttershy. Why? Why would you jump to that conclusion?" To be fair, it's not like it doesn't have precedence. This wouldn't be the first time, or even the second and third time (And probably more), Pinkie unintentionally upset Fluttershy if she turned out to be right in her accusation. Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy together in a stressful situation sometimes doesn't end well because Pinkie's methods of dealing with that stress can make things worse for Fluttershy.
So i don't think Cozy Glow was Chrysalis in disguise seeing that when Chrysalis was disguised as the photographer she couldn't stand to even acknowledge Starlight so doubt she would have gotten counseling from her. But last episode Cozy Glow learned about the elements and now Chrysalis knew about them enough and had a cloning spell to try to take them. Maybe Cozy Glow is a clone being used as a spy for Chrysalis. Or maybe she is working with another villian. Or maybe she's a giant red herring
Applegeek I think I know why Twilight thought Pinkie Pie made Fluttershy upset . before Twilight saw Pinkie Pie the opposite Pinkie Pie hurt Twilight's feelings saying that her retreat was boring so she thought that Pinkie Pie was hurting Fluttershy's feelings right after because she was so hurt herself I think about it it's a very interesting topic.
When I was watching the scene where Twilight and Pinkie were arguing, I was reminded of the fight that they had in the movie. Then I realized Michael Vogel wrote this episode and was a screenplay writer in the movie. That’s interesting.
I actually wanted evil Twilight to stick around! The others were pretty "meh" personality-wise, but she seemed to retain Twilight's intelligence and magical abilities. Her element flip was more subtle than the others. She valued her "friends" because of what they could do for her under her leadership, instead of valuing her friends because they were, well, her friends.
Also loved how the TOH (tree of harmony) went all Arc of the covenant (Raiders of the lost arc) on the Anti-element mean six. I believe the tree knew who the fake mane six were and had to purge them.
On the note of why Twilight accuses Pinkie of upsetting Flutters: When Twilight last saw "Pinkie" the latter rudely insulted the retreat bringing TWilight herself to tears. Coming off the heels of that encounter it seems safe to assume that after Pinkie made Twilight cry she could conclude that Pinkie also made Flutters cry as well. Remember, what Clone Pinkie said was really hurtful. That's my two bits. Good reaction as always AngryJawa
The great thing about this whole thing is that because we've never really had a special mid season finale before, you don't expect to see any big villains appearing just in the middle of the season or expect really anything serious to be going on. I wish the promo's didn't spoil it, and I wish I didn't watch that animatic that was shown at comic con that showed the intro scene, but hey, that's kind of on me. They still shouldn't spoil things like that though, but eh I'm not really mad about it, and I'm just happy because of how good this episode is and I can't wait to see your reaction so I'm gonna stop typing now! :)
I can't believe some fans said this was a bad episode! Are they SERIOUS?! This is the BEST episode of the season! Also, Evil Twilight is badass as hell, I love how they made her a rogue basically XD
kind of good kinda dumb. you can really her Trixie in Chrysalis' voice. it used to have that buzz to it now it's just evil Trixie. the destruction of the mean 6 was horrifying. and are the elements now corrupt? or are they all good? will chrysalis ever be turned good? the world may never know
I thought this episode was interesting. I love mean Six Twilight. Mean Six Twilight showed a trait that's never been discussed with our Twilight. What if she was fueled by Ambition instead of Friendship. Part of me wanted her to escape.
I’ve been waiting for this! Truth be told, I’ve been spoiled on Chrysalis’ return this season. However, I didn’t expect to see her this soon. It’s was pretty interesting to see the “mean six” return a second time and get to know mean Twilight’s personality a bit more; she gave me an unsettling vibe, similar to S5 Starlight and unreformed Sunset. Chrysalis’ plan may have been flawed but, her plan to use the elements in this manner was very devious. I had a feeling that the Tree of Harmony would put a stop to the mean six and Chrysalis but, I can’t help but wonder if the elements are gonna have a tie-in with the finale somehow after what just happened. Aside from the seriousness, this episode was very entertaining and may very well be my favorite S8 episode after “Surf and/or Turf.” Great reaction too!
There were some great moments, more so with mean Twilight, Rarity and Applejack but the other mean characters were just kind of meh to me. Kind of disappointing while having a few good moments, just kind of a mixed bag for me overall.
I liked this episode. The Mean 6 kind of reminded me of the time when Discord used his magic to turn the Mane 6 bad way back in Season 2 Episodes 1 and 2, The Return of Harmony. Their evil counterparts acted the same way the Mane 6 did in The Return of Harmony all except Twilight because Twilight was more depressed in The Return of Harmony than evil.
34:35 I actually like how this episode ended. I’m kind of glad they didn’t figure out what was really going on. They were able to make up and be friends still without an explanation. Them figuring it out wouldn’t of been the point.
I knew it was Chrysalis as soon as I saw the imposter unicorn's green aura magic. Seriously, a level of that bright green color just screams "EVIL". I also thought Cozy Glow was Chrysalis in disguise last episodes. Good to see that I was wrong. Anyway, great reaction video!
I do suspect that they're now in the same boat as Celestia and Luna as far as the Elements are concerned. They can probably still advertise the Rainbow Ponies toy line, though. :p
02:18 Plot shot :J 04:05 Pretty good plan, isn't it? ;> Except with one minor tidbit ;> More on that later... 07:00 Evil Twilight is the best villain in this show ]:D And I mean it! ;> 12:56 When somepony else's karma hits you :q 16:50 Applejack always has her shovel with her somewhere ;J 18:32 That's what I was hoping for :/ 22:08 Yeah, for kids... :q Nightmare fuel for sure... 22:17 Yeah... WAT? o___o' That ending was totally underwhelming... 22:24 Yes, it didn't work, because the Mean Six's evil "vibrations" were incompatible with the Elements. At least that's how I explain it. But this is kinda weird, because we've seen in "Equestria Girls" multiple times that the Elements _can_ be used for evil if the user is evil, and they don't destroy the user because of that :q So I don't quite get it what just happened. And I bet the writers don't know too :q This ending looks as if they had a great idea for the episode, but they didn't know how to develop it further, so they simply restored the status quo in the stupidest possible way. 23:0 The question is, did she manage to steal the Elements as she planned, or she just escaped empty hooved? :q
You know chrysalis plan probably wouldn't have worked anyway even if they got the elements I mean think about it there supposed to be the opposite so I don't think they would have worked anyway
zack wyatt Well, seeing as they refused to work even for the Discorded Mane 6 (who ARE the real element bearers), there's no way they would work for the clones Chyrsalis made.
I also think that Discord may have unknowingly sabotaged the clones... (I seriously suspect that the Everfree forest has been thoroughly seeded with his chaos magic.... Face it, things like the Timber Wolves and Poison Joke would be exactly the sort of thing Discord would have in his "garden"... Not to mention the Zap Apples... And given that Chrysalis did use trees from the Everfree forest to make her clones... It would explain the similarities to the Discorded main six...)
My theory for why the Tree of Harmony did what it did is because it 'controls and contains all that grows' in the Everfree Forest, and those guys were created from Everfree trees, so they are part of the forest which the Tree of Harmony would control. It sensed something out of line with its plants, and put them back on track. A similar thing happened with Discord's plunder seeds when they tried to steal the magic from the tree... Which is actually a rather similar situation, by the way. Plants trying to manipulate the tree, the tree takes action against the plants. It makes me wonder if the clones are simply contained, or if they have truly been reverted back to Everfree wood.
People keep missing something about this story that has been happening especially in the movie-that is that Pinkie is the real leader of the show. She was the pony that started the Mane 6 in the very first show, and when she gets serious she calls out Twilight often. Look at the last shot of this show, she is the one out front by herself with the others in an arc facing her. You pointed out that she is the one that tells the photographer to take Glimmy's pic. That is Empathy-which she has always had, she often puts others ahead of herself. That would mean that she encompasses yet another element of harmony, as she epitomizes all the others, and remember she found the book in that premier episode!
Interesting theory there, and I didn't notice some of the points you made. But there's some holes as well: while Pinkie might call Twilight or somepony out, she's never really taken charge nearly as much as Twilight has to say she could be the real leader, and Applejack's taken charge like a leader a number of times too. Pinkie is the most friendly, and generally shows empathy and often put others before herself, she's far from the only one to frequently do this, and Pinkie's even shown multiple episodes that she might (somewhat paradoxically) be one of the most insensitive of them (especially in "Filli Vanilli" where she kept making Fluttershy cry due to the way she tried to "cheer" her up) Overall Fluttershy, and more recently Starlight, has shown a higher level of empathy than Pinkie, and Starlight seems to have the most empathy as the season 7 finale showed, when she was the only one to think that maybe the Pony of Shadows isn't truly bad. Not enough really suggests that Pinkie might represent another element like that. If there is a 7th element, all signs points that it's going to Starlight.
I think one of the reasons the elements responded differently to Sunset Shimmer is because the element of magic was separated from the other 5 elements in Equestria.
Well the final version wasn't any better tbh, it was still disturbing especially with the cracking noises.. I'm surprised Hasbro got away with it but good for them lol
I wouldn't criticize Twilight too hard on blaming Pinkie. Remember that she had just had a troubling interaction with Pinkie at the bog moments before.
27:45 She said that because Pinkie mad HER upset when she told her it was a boring lame no fun retreat (that’s probably wrong but something close to that) So she thought pinkie made fluttershy upset too since Pinkie made her sad also
I luv how this episode basically turned Twilight into Starscream from Transformers. The back-stabbing second in command who does nothing but point out the leader’s flaws and mistakes
Fun fact: in Transformers Animated, when Starscream clone himself, one of the clone came out as a girl name Slipstream. Her V.A is Princess T.S. herself. Starsrceam: so, which part me do you came from? Slipstream: don't ask
I thought it was a bit odd that the Mane 6 never actually encounter Chrysalis, and they had no idea what was actually going on. Hard to imagine they didn't recognize the botched cutie marks on the doppelgangers. A decent mid season finale that must be setting up for something bigger down the road. I actually like the idea of Chrysalis as a recurring villain and not rehabilitated. Some villains should be beyond saving. Chrysalis's scheme wasn't a total failure. Now she know's the exact location of the tree so I am looking for her to come back with a new plan.
Man this episode would’ve been great if the mean six corrupted the elements and had to fight the mane six. That would’ve been a way better season finale for this season
A lot of reactors say they suspected Chrysalis because of the green magic, but I feel the eyes should've been a bigger giveaway. They have a very clear two-tone gradient that no ponies have, but it's pretty recognizeable from Chryssi's eyes. To me, at least.
6:08 - Everyone should go camping at least once in their lives - if only to make them appreciate the Great Indoors more! (Besides, some ponies actually LIKE it!) 6:36 - Evil Pinkie has only existed for ONE DAY! How can she know whether this is the "worst day ever" or not? 7:43 - Do roses normally grow in the woods? 18:06 - It's hard to believe that none of the Mane Six have noticed the differences in the Mean Six's cutie marks. Then again, are the cutie marks REALLY different in the context of the story or are they only shown to the viewers as different so that we can keep track of who's who?
@Applegeek: The green element of harmony actually isn't new. In the RPG book "Tails of Equestria" for example there is an image (made in the same style as the tv series) of the tree of harmony how it looked like in the past. There the elements of harmony still have their classic "gem look" without being in the form of the main 6's cutie marks. And the element of kindness (or was it still "healing" back then?) is green and not pink.
You have to consider that just before twilight came on the scene to see fluttershy crying the evil pinkie was extremely rude to her and actually made her almost cry so I think her conclusion makes sense
It’s interesting to think what would happen if the real Twilight was evil, rather than something that was essentially a bewitched tree. Would she still be able to use the elements? Would she succeed without them seeing the other five wouldn’t be able to use them against her if she can’t use hers?
No, on May 1, Hasbro bought the franchise and yesterday, Hasbro closed the acquisition, meaning Power Rangers is now officially a part of Hasbro! Saban Brands is closing next month on July 2!
I'm so glad you liked the episode I did too now that I put into consideration that they couldn't truly afford to have a cliffhanger in the middle of the season that wouldn't work, but ultimately Twilight said it best if they can overcome even a terrible day like that then their friendship is stronger then ever. That is truer then any realizes even though they aren't holding them anymore they are still bound to the elements and reflect them everyday teaching showing and representing their own element and the powerful bonds of friendship forged over eight years. Eight years this friendship has blossomed grown and embraced others like Starlight the young ones of the different nations. Plus the greater moral of each villain defeated by the main six is something that needs to be taken into account. For starters, Luna should have been upfront and told her sister how she was feeling bottling up your problems and issues never help it always creates a Nightmare for anyone. Discord be yourself and others will accept you for who you are but don't force those views or feelings on others that is selfish and mean. Chrysalis now three times has shown that if you don't earn power love and respect you will never truly have it she wanted power so she took it for herself and was defeated by the real thing she wanted power and was taken by the real thing in the form of companionship and how much it has taught Starlight and the others being redeemed, for both Tirec and Sombre tyranny is not tolerated or allowed in a world so full of love and friendship and will be shattered in the face of such a bright force. Finally, Starlight as simple as it is it too has meaning don't make mountains out of a molehill if she had just kept contact with Sunburst the way she does now things would be so much better. heh, even the fact she had to go back and fix her tie with her father and Sunburst's tie with his mother shows the severe lack of communication on both of their parts stemming to more than just their friendship but even their ties to their home and family. Finally this school as you said has opened the doors for greater friendship than ever before for everyone pony dragon Griffen hippogriff and Yak those ties those bonds will increase the power of harmony and by default the elements so yes, in the end, that plan was doomed to fail because of how sentient and how strong they have gotten thanks to how powerful friendship has grown Equestria is bursting with it at every corner now more than ever through its ties with other creatures. All of this leading to this mid finale showing our fallen queen she has a major uphill battle with any of the forces she seeks to defeat or abuse for her own because all of equestria is protected and loved and with now allies wanting to ensure it's safey because of how welcoming and fun it is for their children that will further increase it's power to keep EVERYONE safe from harm.
So, basically we see all the discorded versions of the mane 6, though, the last time we saw a “discorded Twilight” we really only got to see the “indifference” part where she goes to leave them behind. Here, we get to see the extent of what a “discorded Twilight” is like: a scheming, uncaring megalomaniac. She’s incredibly intelligent and devious- honestly, I love seeing Twilight in this sinister, villainous manner. It was really interesting to watch this true anti-Twi and I would LOVE to see more. I believe Twilight, given her tendency for planning and details, would be an incredibly cunning, difficult-to-outwit villain.
maybe the next time the mane 6 use the elements of harmony, they will be corrupted by the mean 6 energy or life force. p.s i wanted more corrupted rainbow dash
If it wasn't apparent they are the Mane 7 now, this episode pretty much confirmed it. Starlight was even part of the group hug for the first time here.
i just started the video, haven't finished yet. But , i already watched this episode before episode 1 and i have been waiting for this moment for a long time, Thank you.
this episode had a lot of potential... that it wasted a pity really, it seems the writers are going the steven universe route and turning their last worth while villain into a cheap joke....
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Okay, so I said at the beginning I watched this early, but then personal stuff got in the way of also finishing the commentary early, and in fact it ended up being a day late. Sorry about that.
Applegeek that ok i love your video
Applegeek that’s ok
Applegeek it’s okays
I shall never forgive you.
That's ok mlp king of reactions 😆
Seeing the way Pinkie was comforting Fluttershy was interesting. We don’t see Pinkie acting this way very often(kinda like how Rainbow was considerate of Fluttershy’s flying problem in a certain scene from “Hurricane Fluttershy”) so, that was a nice touch.
So...Chrysalis is literally the longest running reappearing villain in the show now.
Fanatic Mitchell Caballero first appeared in season 4 episode 4, Daring Don't. Chrysalis first appeared on Season 2 Episode 2, Royal Canterlot Wedding. Your argument is incorrect.
Fanatic Mitchell I said longest...not most frequent. So you're...probably...wrong.
@@user-bh4dv5pe1e Season 2 episode 26, actually.
@@user-bh4dv5pe1e i think they meant major villian
She's like a main enemy of the mane 6.
27:30 The reason Twilight acted that way was because she wasn't simply frustrated, she was frustrated at Pinkie Pie, because of her previous interaction with the other Pinkie. She jumped into the conclusion that Pinkie hurt Fluttleshy the same way she was hurt. She said "great, you upset Fluttershy, too", the "too" is what mattered.
Exactly
Twilight assumed that Pinkie upset Fluttershy because the last thing that the saw Pinkie do was be a grouch and upset her. Also because Fluttershy historically isn't that hard to upset and Pinkie's done it before. This is not as OOC as before.
The whole point of their apology at the end was that, even if they wouldn't act the way their discorded versions did outright, they still had the same motivations. That's why they can believe it.
+Out-Of-Context Are you saying Twilight's not a perfect character without any character flaws? How could you imply such a thing? My favorite shows always have the characters solve their issues within 2 minutes then fight the villain for 20 minutes.
nessesaryschoolthing Exactly, it has nothing to do with what Applegeek said.
It’s official. Chrysalis has officially lost her marbles.
I feel like that's an understatement.
JROG1989 Did she ever had them to begin with?
POLE7645 probably not.
JROG1989 I feel as though all four of you are right. Chrysalis was acting as though she lost her marbles and I really don't think she was sane to begin with
Elizabeth Curtis gotta agree
It's weird that not many analysts/reactors have pointed out the mean six's cutie marks.
Twilight and Pinkie Pie's are normal from what I can see.
Rainbow Dash's is upside down, Rarity's is violet and upside down, Applejack's apples are green, and Fluttershy's butterflies are blue instead of pink.
Instead of having one yellow balloon floating above two blue ones, evil Pinkie has one blue balloon with two yellow ones above it.
EXACTLY!I thought i was the only one.
Also, Mean!Twilight's cutie mark doesn't have have the white star behind the central star, instead having another magenta star
I think mean twilight also has her cutie mark backwards
Finally someone else thinks that this was a worthy mid-season finale.
Me too. ^_^
I don't even know why a majority of people said that this episode was disappointing, it was enjoyable, it was hilarious.
Like haven't they learned anything from "Fame and Misfortune"?
This episode is so cool. The only problem is the mean six can not control themselves, except for Twilight.
Out-Of-Context
I like theory
As for some not having learned anything from "Fame and misfortune", that is on the ones who decided to shirk the responsibility and ONLY focus the moral on the _intended_ target audience, and essentially only show bronies as warning examples.
I liked that episode, but i did not really felt hit by it either, and it offered no reconciliation or solution for those that did.
Evil Twilight is the best villain in MLP series.
Michal Stasinski: I agree.
Michał Stasiński I agree
Go and see Equestria Girls: Friendship Games... and Legend of Everfree.
It was already done... better.
Already have but seein an evil pony version of Twilight was pretty cool.
I wouldnt say that she only lasted 1 episode
Actually real horses see differently then humans. While humans see in 3 main colors and the combinations amount to the full range, horses see mainly blue and yellow. The rest is more like shades and nuances of those two. So the fact that they didn't notice much the discoloration and of the skin and the more green color of AJ's cutie mark can kinda be explained. Rarity is the only one that noticed something strange probably because she is a fashion designer and she probably has a better eye for colors and shades even with a supposedly limited horse vision.
Wow we've found the child of Einstein brony version
Same with the Mean Applejack.
Laki Lucky V
First I have no idea what you’re saying
Second you make no sense
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Laki Lucky V
And also why does it even matter if they can see colours or not
Like you said, it’s just a cartoon
And this is just a theory.
That would make sense if they didn't talk about rainbows and how awesome they are like, all the time
Well, one of the things I liked about the Mean Six is that the Evil Twilight still cared about her friends to the point that she was saying “Our” powers for “our”selves.
MOF is everywhere!!
I don't think so, she's supposed to be the opposite of Twilight, who loves her friends and care for them, while this evil twilight just want power and knowledge, and her "friends" are more tools, or at least that's what I think
@@tntmoxy9697Mean Twilight likely wouldn’t have been able to activate them without them too(or at least that what she could have possibly thought)
"The first thing she does is accuse Pinkie of upsetting Fluttershy. Why? Why would you jump to that conclusion?" To be fair, it's not like it doesn't have precedence. This wouldn't be the first time, or even the second and third time (And probably more), Pinkie unintentionally upset Fluttershy if she turned out to be right in her accusation. Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy together in a stressful situation sometimes doesn't end well because Pinkie's methods of dealing with that stress can make things worse for Fluttershy.
@22:10 : They actually softened the gruesome death scene of the Mean 6 a little bit compared to the leaks from December.
oh shoot..
So i don't think Cozy Glow was Chrysalis in disguise seeing that when Chrysalis was disguised as the photographer she couldn't stand to even acknowledge Starlight so doubt she would have gotten counseling from her. But last episode Cozy Glow learned about the elements and now Chrysalis knew about them enough and had a cloning spell to try to take them. Maybe Cozy Glow is a clone being used as a spy for Chrysalis. Or maybe she is working with another villian. Or maybe she's a giant red herring
Another villain huh. You were right. 😂😂
@@hierony5471 Tirek ha ha. And in the end all three of them are stone.
Applegeek I think I know why Twilight thought Pinkie Pie made Fluttershy upset . before Twilight saw Pinkie Pie the opposite Pinkie Pie hurt Twilight's feelings saying that her retreat was boring so she thought that Pinkie Pie was hurting Fluttershy's feelings right after because she was so hurt herself I think about it it's a very interesting topic.
^ That is a very fair conclusion ^
Chrysalis: I know better than to strike alone. I need-
Evil Twilight: Friends?
Me: OH SAVAGE! 😏
It's at 7:08
When I was watching the scene where Twilight and Pinkie were arguing, I was reminded of the fight that they had in the movie. Then I realized Michael Vogel wrote this episode and was a screenplay writer in the movie. That’s interesting.
I actually wanted evil Twilight to stick around! The others were pretty "meh" personality-wise, but she seemed to retain Twilight's intelligence and magical abilities. Her element flip was more subtle than the others. She valued her "friends" because of what they could do for her under her leadership, instead of valuing her friends because they were, well, her friends.
Also loved how the TOH (tree of harmony) went all Arc of the covenant (Raiders of the lost arc) on the Anti-element mean six. I believe the tree knew who the fake mane six were and had to purge them.
Jeremy Rivers that is exactly what I was thinking of when the melted.
Squegy I wouldn’t be suprised if thats what they were going for
the irony: a tree became Fluttershy
On the note of why Twilight accuses Pinkie of upsetting Flutters: When Twilight last saw "Pinkie" the latter rudely insulted the retreat bringing TWilight herself to tears. Coming off the heels of that encounter it seems safe to assume that after Pinkie made Twilight cry she could conclude that Pinkie also made Flutters cry as well. Remember, what Clone Pinkie said was really hurtful.
That's my two bits. Good reaction as always
AngryJawa
The great thing about this whole thing is that because we've never really had a special mid season finale before, you don't expect to see any big villains appearing just in the middle of the season or expect really anything serious to be going on. I wish the promo's didn't spoil it, and I wish I didn't watch that animatic that was shown at comic con that showed the intro scene, but hey, that's kind of on me. They still shouldn't spoil things like that though, but eh I'm not really mad about it, and I'm just happy because of how good this episode is and I can't wait to see your reaction so I'm gonna stop typing now! :)
Its funny literally every reactor Ive seen watch this episode mentioned how much they agree with Starlights dislike of camping.
Savannah Simpson Yeah, I kind of thought at least one would agree more with Applejack on that. lol
Yeah but 17:46 nopony make starlight cry NOPONY
I can't believe some fans said this was a bad episode! Are they SERIOUS?! This is the BEST episode of the season! Also, Evil Twilight is badass as hell, I love how they made her a rogue basically XD
EremikaHaven I think most of them were expecting something on a grander, season finale-level scale.
kind of good kinda dumb. you can really her Trixie in Chrysalis' voice. it used to have that buzz to it now it's just evil Trixie. the destruction of the mean 6 was horrifying. and are the elements now corrupt? or are they all good? will chrysalis ever be turned good? the world may never know
Mad Mulligan Aside from the occasional slip, Chrysalis's voice is a bit deeper than Trixie's.
i know this. i'm just saying you can hear both characters. yes i know same voice actor
Chrysalis is a devil. She can't be good.
I absolutely love this episode.
funcoolfunfun me to
I absolutely adored this episode. It was epic." 5 out of 5 stars. Would irrationally rate high again." Quote by Stupid Private.
The only thing I would add, is at the end of the episode, the Mane Six found the logs of what used to be the Mean 6, and started a campfire with them.
Me too. One of the best episodes.
One bugbear in plaid socks coming up!
Bloom can't wait
I thought this episode was interesting. I love mean Six Twilight. Mean Six Twilight showed a trait that's never been discussed with our Twilight. What if she was fueled by Ambition instead of Friendship. Part of me wanted her to escape.
I SEE.
XD
AKA Midnight Sparkle as a pony.
I’ve been waiting for this! Truth be told, I’ve been spoiled on Chrysalis’ return this season. However, I didn’t expect to see her this soon. It’s was pretty interesting to see the “mean six” return a second time and get to know mean Twilight’s personality a bit more; she gave me an unsettling vibe, similar to S5 Starlight and unreformed Sunset. Chrysalis’ plan may have been flawed but, her plan to use the elements in this manner was very devious. I had a feeling that the Tree of Harmony would put a stop to the mean six and Chrysalis but, I can’t help but wonder if the elements are gonna have a tie-in with the finale somehow after what just happened. Aside from the seriousness, this episode was very entertaining and may very well be my favorite S8 episode after “Surf and/or Turf.” Great reaction too!
I kinda love mean Twilight. Her sass is on point.
i like how pinkie is comforting fluttershy in a genuine way instead of trying to make her laugh. she has gotten more sincere.
There were some great moments, more so with mean Twilight, Rarity and Applejack but the other mean characters were just kind of meh to me. Kind of disappointing while having a few good moments, just kind of a mixed bag for me overall.
I liked this episode. The Mean 6 kind of reminded me of the time when Discord used his magic to turn the Mane 6 bad way back in Season 2 Episodes 1 and 2, The Return of Harmony. Their evil counterparts acted the same way the Mane 6 did in The Return of Harmony all except Twilight because Twilight was more depressed in The Return of Harmony than evil.
i like how Starlight really felt like a member of the group in this episode
But she never will be official member.
Yeah but 17:46 nopony make starlight cry NOPONY
Equestria better be lucky Twilight isn't a villain
is anyone talking about the way the mean six ''died''? I mean it did leave me ''horrified'' and i did leave my jaw dropped for a minute..
The tree of harmony knew that wasn’t the mane 6
Sassy Twilight is hilarious.
Twilight as a villain is so badass!
34:35 I actually like how this episode ended. I’m kind of glad they didn’t figure out what was really going on. They were able to make up and be friends still without an explanation. Them figuring it out wouldn’t of been the point.
I'm pretty sure that when The Tree of Harmony kills the mean six, it's foreshadowing to the episode, "What Lies Beneath."
I knew it was Chrysalis as soon as I saw the imposter unicorn's green aura magic. Seriously, a level of that bright green color just screams "EVIL". I also thought Cozy Glow was Chrysalis in disguise last episodes. Good to see that I was wrong. Anyway, great reaction video!
I do suspect that they're now in the same boat as Celestia and Luna as far as the Elements are concerned.
They can probably still advertise the Rainbow Ponies toy line, though. :p
And the lesson is.... !DONT SCREW WITH THE TREE OF HARMINY!
02:18 Plot shot :J
04:05 Pretty good plan, isn't it? ;> Except with one minor tidbit ;> More on that later...
07:00 Evil Twilight is the best villain in this show ]:D And I mean it! ;>
12:56 When somepony else's karma hits you :q
16:50 Applejack always has her shovel with her somewhere ;J
18:32 That's what I was hoping for :/
22:08 Yeah, for kids... :q Nightmare fuel for sure...
22:17 Yeah... WAT? o___o' That ending was totally underwhelming...
22:24 Yes, it didn't work, because the Mean Six's evil "vibrations" were incompatible with the Elements. At least that's how I explain it. But this is kinda weird, because we've seen in "Equestria Girls" multiple times that the Elements _can_ be used for evil if the user is evil, and they don't destroy the user because of that :q So I don't quite get it what just happened. And I bet the writers don't know too :q This ending looks as if they had a great idea for the episode, but they didn't know how to develop it further, so they simply restored the status quo in the stupidest possible way.
23:0 The question is, did she manage to steal the Elements as she planned, or she just escaped empty hooved? :q
You know chrysalis plan probably wouldn't have worked anyway even if they got the elements I mean think about it there supposed to be the opposite so I don't think they would have worked anyway
zack wyatt Well, seeing as they refused to work even for the Discorded Mane 6 (who ARE the real element bearers), there's no way they would work for the clones Chyrsalis made.
I also think that Discord may have unknowingly sabotaged the clones... (I seriously suspect that the Everfree forest has been thoroughly seeded with his chaos magic.... Face it, things like the Timber Wolves and Poison Joke would be exactly the sort of thing Discord would have in his "garden"... Not to mention the Zap Apples... And given that Chrysalis did use trees from the Everfree forest to make her clones... It would explain the similarities to the Discorded main six...)
Ummm when the Discorded Mane 6 tried to use them twilight tried to make spike use the element of loyalty so we don't know if it would work or not
My theory for why the Tree of Harmony did what it did is because it 'controls and contains all that grows' in the Everfree Forest, and those guys were created from Everfree trees, so they are part of the forest which the Tree of Harmony would control. It sensed something out of line with its plants, and put them back on track.
A similar thing happened with Discord's plunder seeds when they tried to steal the magic from the tree... Which is actually a rather similar situation, by the way. Plants trying to manipulate the tree, the tree takes action against the plants. It makes me wonder if the clones are simply contained, or if they have truly been reverted back to Everfree wood.
SHE'S BACK THE CHEESE QUEEN IS BACK!!! YASSSSSSS!!!!! 😂
I WANT SUM CHEESE
I wonder if her leg holes whistle in the wind
AND YOU MEAN SWISS CHEESE!!!!
NOW BEG FOR YOUR LIFE IN SWISS CHEESE!!!
Cheese gromit! Lol
People keep missing something about this story that has been happening especially in the movie-that is that Pinkie is the real leader of the show. She was the pony that started the Mane 6 in the very first show, and when she gets serious she calls out Twilight often. Look at the last shot of this show, she is the one out front by herself with the others in an arc facing her. You pointed out that she is the one that tells the photographer to take Glimmy's pic. That is Empathy-which she has always had, she often puts others ahead of herself. That would mean that she encompasses yet another element of harmony, as she epitomizes all the others, and remember she found the book in that premier episode!
Interesting theory there, and I didn't notice some of the points you made. But there's some holes as well: while Pinkie might call Twilight or somepony out, she's never really taken charge nearly as much as Twilight has to say she could be the real leader, and Applejack's taken charge like a leader a number of times too.
Pinkie is the most friendly, and generally shows empathy and often put others before herself, she's far from the only one to frequently do this, and Pinkie's even shown multiple episodes that she might (somewhat paradoxically) be one of the most insensitive of them (especially in "Filli Vanilli" where she kept making Fluttershy cry due to the way she tried to "cheer" her up)
Overall Fluttershy, and more recently Starlight, has shown a higher level of empathy than Pinkie, and Starlight seems to have the most empathy as the season 7 finale showed, when she was the only one to think that maybe the Pony of Shadows isn't truly bad.
Not enough really suggests that Pinkie might represent another element like that. If there is a 7th element, all signs points that it's going to Starlight.
I think one of the reasons the elements responded differently to Sunset Shimmer is because the element of magic was separated from the other 5 elements in Equestria.
In the original death scene, the way Twilight dies is just horrifying. This was changed to avoid scaring kids.
What was it? For some reason I thought I remembered them melting...
Well the final version wasn't any better tbh, it was still disturbing especially with the cracking noises.. I'm surprised Hasbro got away with it but good for them lol
The role of Rarity will be played by Andy Serkis.
Jeremy Rivers and Pinkie by Jon Heder.
What are you guys talking about?
cherry delicious Rarity is acting like Gollum from Lord of the Rings and Andy Serkis played him.
Jeremy Rivers
Ohhhhhhh.
(Never saw that movie)
the artists had *A LOT* of fun with Greedy Rarity in this episode
8:08 Applejack, I know your trying to help Starlight with her first camping experience but you trying to make her hate camping even more.
I wouldn't criticize Twilight too hard on blaming Pinkie. Remember that she had just had a troubling interaction with Pinkie at the bog moments before.
27:45 She said that because Pinkie mad HER upset when she told her it was a boring lame no fun retreat (that’s probably wrong but something close to that) So she thought pinkie made fluttershy upset too since Pinkie made her sad also
Me yelling at twilight with a megaphone: Everypony quaiet!
Twilight sparkle: shout it at them not me
I luv how this episode basically turned Twilight into Starscream from Transformers. The back-stabbing second in command who does nothing but point out the leader’s flaws and mistakes
Fun fact: in Transformers Animated, when Starscream clone himself, one of the clone came out as a girl name Slipstream. Her V.A is Princess T.S. herself.
Starsrceam: so, which part me do you came from?
Slipstream: don't ask
I thought it was a bit odd that the Mane 6 never actually encounter Chrysalis, and they had no idea what was actually going on. Hard to imagine they didn't recognize the botched cutie marks on the doppelgangers. A decent mid season finale that must be setting up for something bigger down the road. I actually like the idea of Chrysalis as a recurring villain and not rehabilitated. Some villains should be beyond saving. Chrysalis's scheme wasn't a total failure. Now she know's the exact location of the tree so I am looking for her to come back with a new plan.
Man this episode would’ve been great if the mean six corrupted the elements and had to fight the mane six. That would’ve been a way better season finale for this season
ya know, rarity looked like a gremlin, it was so funny I DIED😂
The lesson of this episode is if you mess with the tree of harmony it will kill you the tree is straight FIRE!😂
This was an amazing episode!
Also your reactions are great!
Chrysalis is the best villain ever, agreed?
A lot of reactors say they suspected Chrysalis because of the green magic, but I feel the eyes should've been a bigger giveaway. They have a very clear two-tone gradient that no ponies have, but it's pretty recognizeable from Chryssi's eyes. To me, at least.
Antroid I didn't even notice the eyes.
this lesson is DO NOT SCREW WITH THE TREE OF HARMONY!!!!!!!!!!!!
The way Twilight and pinkie argue is the almost the same in mlp the movie if you guys know
And here I thought Chrysalis was never gonna be back.
This was a great reaction. Looking forward to more!
I’ll bet the voice actresses had fun with this episode.
This episode was insane in the best way possible.
And so glad to see some reactor being actually surprised with Chrysalis' return. Awesome reaction!!!
on 5:27 rainbow is like ''Why is Pinkie an element of harmony again, she's too...laughter- y''
I wouldn't say it's her first time camping cause I mean she pretty much ran a camp so...yea
Nah, Starlight still kept that "camp" she ran inside a village and not out in the wilderness, so it wouldn't count anyway lol
6:08 - Everyone should go camping at least once in their lives - if only to make them appreciate the Great Indoors more! (Besides, some ponies actually LIKE it!)
6:36 - Evil Pinkie has only existed for ONE DAY! How can she know whether this is the "worst day ever" or not?
7:43 - Do roses normally grow in the woods?
18:06 - It's hard to believe that none of the Mane Six have noticed the differences in the Mean Six's cutie marks. Then again, are the cutie marks REALLY different in the context of the story or are they only shown to the viewers as different so that we can keep track of who's who?
@Applegeek: The green element of harmony actually isn't new. In the RPG book "Tails of Equestria" for example there is an image (made in the same style as the tv series) of the tree of harmony how it looked like in the past. There the elements of harmony still have their classic "gem look" without being in the form of the main 6's cutie marks. And the element of kindness (or was it still "healing" back then?) is green and not pink.
OU NOOOO
MID SEASON FINALLY?!?!?!
I was just about to finish school and they are making the break now? XD
My Little Pony is one of my favorite shows
Yup me too,u should join the fandom
Very late comment on my part but yeah that MONOLOGUE is pretty amazing. The say she says "and I will rule" is excellent voice acting. ^^
You have to consider that just before twilight came on the scene to see fluttershy crying the evil pinkie was extremely rude to her and actually made her almost cry so I think her conclusion makes sense
It’s interesting to think what would happen if the real Twilight was evil, rather than something that was essentially a bewitched tree. Would she still be able to use the elements? Would she succeed without them seeing the other five wouldn’t be able to use them against her if she can’t use hers?
Applegeek, Will you watch Power Rangers Beast Morphers when it airs now that Hasbro fully owns the Power Rangers franchise?
Theagames10 Hasbro only owns the toyline, Sabans still owns the franchise, well at least the american version, 'cause bandai still owns super sentai.
No, on May 1, Hasbro bought the franchise and yesterday, Hasbro closed the acquisition, meaning Power Rangers is now officially a part of Hasbro! Saban Brands is closing next month on July 2!
Theagames10 i didn't know about that!! That's pretty cool actually, now i'm excited about the adaptation of Go-Busters!! :D
Apple geek only watches MLP
Still waiting for Disney to buy Hasbro so that The Ride Truely Never Does End.
I'm so glad you liked the episode I did too now that I put into consideration that they couldn't truly afford to have a cliffhanger in the middle of the season that wouldn't work, but ultimately Twilight said it best if they can overcome even a terrible day like that then their friendship is stronger then ever. That is truer then any realizes even though they aren't holding them anymore they are still bound to the elements and reflect them everyday teaching showing and representing their own element and the powerful bonds of friendship forged over eight years. Eight years this friendship has blossomed grown and embraced others like Starlight the young ones of the different nations. Plus the greater moral of each villain defeated by the main six is something that needs to be taken into account. For starters, Luna should have been upfront and told her sister how she was feeling bottling up your problems and issues never help it always creates a Nightmare for anyone. Discord be yourself and others will accept you for who you are but don't force those views or feelings on others that is selfish and mean. Chrysalis now three times has shown that if you don't earn power love and respect you will never truly have it she wanted power so she took it for herself and was defeated by the real thing she wanted power and was taken by the real thing in the form of companionship and how much it has taught Starlight and the others being redeemed, for both Tirec and Sombre tyranny is not tolerated or allowed in a world so full of love and friendship and will be shattered in the face of such a bright force. Finally, Starlight as simple as it is it too has meaning don't make mountains out of a molehill if she had just kept contact with Sunburst the way she does now things would be so much better. heh, even the fact she had to go back and fix her tie with her father and Sunburst's tie with his mother shows the severe lack of communication on both of their parts stemming to more than just their friendship but even their ties to their home and family. Finally this school as you said has opened the doors for greater friendship than ever before for everyone pony dragon Griffen hippogriff and Yak those ties those bonds will increase the power of harmony and by default the elements so yes, in the end, that plan was doomed to fail because of how sentient and how strong they have gotten thanks to how powerful friendship has grown Equestria is bursting with it at every corner now more than ever through its ties with other creatures. All of this leading to this mid finale showing our fallen queen she has a major uphill battle with any of the forces she seeks to defeat or abuse for her own because all of equestria is protected and loved and with now allies wanting to ensure it's safey because of how welcoming and fun it is for their children that will further increase it's power to keep EVERYONE safe from harm.
So, basically we see all the discorded versions of the mane 6, though, the last time we saw a “discorded Twilight” we really only got to see the “indifference” part where she goes to leave them behind.
Here, we get to see the extent of what a “discorded Twilight” is like: a scheming, uncaring megalomaniac. She’s incredibly intelligent and devious- honestly, I love seeing Twilight in this sinister, villainous manner. It was really interesting to watch this true anti-Twi and I would LOVE to see more.
I believe Twilight, given her tendency for planning and details, would be an incredibly cunning, difficult-to-outwit villain.
Anyone else fangirl when he said he knew nothing about this ep? I was hopping he didn't and I screamed and got really excited!!!!!!
The wing thing evil Twilight did kind of reminded me of Mr. Burns.
TS: Excellent.
Evil Fluttershy's face at 12:40 was pretty scary lol.
*My Little Pony is a Kid’s show!*
22:08 I don’t think so
maybe the next time the mane 6 use the elements of harmony, they will be corrupted by the mean 6 energy or life force.
p.s i wanted more corrupted rainbow dash
Dont forget the season 6 finale...
Everyone was rdy to deep 6 chrysalis on the spot.
Cept the one pony who hand any "empathy" for her
Aj comment "stuck for 127 hours" is a reference to the movie 127 hours in case you or anybody didn't got that
Amazing Episode :)
You know hasbro REALLY LOVES making hillarious Rarity face.
If it wasn't apparent they are the Mane 7 now, this episode pretty much confirmed it. Starlight was even part of the group hug for the first time here.
To be fair, Twilight thought Pinkie had just been mean to her, so accusing her of upsetting Fluttershy isn't so surprising.
i just started the video, haven't finished yet. But , i already watched this episode before episode 1 and i have been waiting for this moment for a long time, Thank you.
this episode had a lot of potential... that it wasted a pity really, it seems the writers are going the steven universe route and turning their last worth while villain into a cheap joke....
small detail
I love how Starlight actually swished her tail at the bugs like an actual horse
Chrysalis is low-key scary when she loses her patience.
Praxina from LoliRock would be literally human version of Chrysalis if only they would finally make 3 season.
Applegeek always has the best shirts
13:18 "Those faces" are hilarious to look at! lol
The party password is rude vega
:eye twitch